Daddy-O is a legend. He's entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Rappers from Long island didn't claim it? JVC Force made a whole song about where they were from, Strong Island. Public Enemy talked about being from Long island on their records. So what if Rakim didn't say where he was from. This interview just sounded like gibberish to me.
@@communityparty5560 when checked on that Daddy O agreed yeah PE, EPMD and De La claimed it. did u not hear that part? he was not talking gibberish in this interview.. and yes he is entitled to his own opinion. and that's all it was here
@@countsekou490 Yeah bro, Rakim is God....It's ain't where you're from, it's where you're at" I always interpreted that as one's state mind. Not geographical importance, PERFECT.
@@daddyfamlittle6262 No one is arguing he was not a pioneer or that he never mattered. Read the comment again. read it out loud and sound out the words if you have to.
@@caRTAGENANYC Rock N Roll is just the Blues played faster and louder. I can't give Chuck credit for this because his peers like Bo Diddley and Little Richard contributed just as much to the genre that Chuck did in terms of it's sound. Big respect to all of these pioneers.
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Also at that time who was messing with Long Island Long Island Long Island had some of the baddest M c's and they are still the baddest M c's in New York. Hands down
@@RC51Legend That's what I'm talking about. Ra repped Long Island always and often. Maybe he's high on something everytime he listens to a Rakim verse.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG DADDY-O!!!! 1st of all The line states, "Even other states come right and exact. It ain't where you're from it's where you're at". You took that line way out of context. That line inspired thousands of MC's all over the country to have the courage to spit from their hole in the wall hometowns. Rakim meant you don't have to be from New York to be an MC's because as we all know back then New York ran HipHop. It was the birthplace of it! And for a New Yorker at the height of his game to say that to cats like me in Baltimore and other heads all over the country at that time was huge and that is 1 of the reasons why he is the greatest. Because it was inspiring others to go for theirs. 2nd of all Rakim stated where he was from on a number of records like MY MELODY he mention Long Island when he said, "The rhyme that I'm Stylin, Smooth as a violin, But rough enough to break New York from Long Island", GHETTO "The only Island I was on was the strong one. And if I did a bid it a be a long one".
Preach my brotha. I’m asking myself has this guy heard all of Rakims music. I from the Midwest and my favorite rappers early in my life we’re from the west coast because it’s what my big cuzzin played and I idolized him and his criminal life style. But when I started fuckin with the east coast, And being that I admire REAL lyricism. RAKIM WAS AN INSTANT NO BRAINER for me. And I definitely remember him reppin strong island.
Rakim said "It ain't where ya from it's where ya at." That statement has a meaning. Meaning wherever you roam respect the laws of that land...respect the street codes of whatever hood you travel to and stay in your lane....don't think you can't get rolled on and hemmed up in another 'hood just cuz your street wise and come from a tough 'hood back in your stomping grounds. R is my favorite all time emcee. I'm from Uptown BX.
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SunGod Asiatic, Valid point! How many times have we encountered people who want to take the reputation of where they’re from into a new location. How many times were they using that reputation to disrespect where they were at the moment. “You can’t do that out here.” “Respect the laws of the land...” Very valid point!
@@KaygeeAllah Yes God!!! 1000% and Daddy-O disappoints me with his comments. Daddy-O is a Hip Hop Pioneer but I find his comments regarding Rakim Allah very misplaced, uncalled for and having no merit.
Totally agree Daddy - O didnt get the meaning of the line. You cant take 1 line & give it your own meaning. The verse lead to the line to wake people up. Someone from kansas has to realize the shit they do & belive dont fly in NYC. That line was preparing you to travel & know that noone cares where u came from...only wut u doin here
@@FourTreDubbCity Absolutely FourTre. Absolutely!!!! And simply stating "It ain't where ya from is where ya at" is not minimizing where you're from at all...it simply means conduct yourself accordingly when your in different hood. And you right FourTre, Daddy-O took that one line and flipped it around on some crazy tip and got it all twisted.
The fact that Rakim didn't need to listen to other artists to get better...he didn't need to be exposed to the rhyme styles of today to improve because he is the prototype. This further proves his omnipotence in hip-hop. He is a god amongst men. He is the illest, and he mentioned "Strong Island" in his first album!
I feel You saying that.But even The Great RA looked at something.And that something was The late Great "John Coltrane".Along with a few others like The Great "Miles Davis".As far as MC's go! I call Them The Primordial 3 God's of Hip-Hop.And That's Grandmaster Caz,Grandmaster Melle Mel and Kool Moe Dee.And can't Forget TLA Rock.I'm not saying He necessarily needed Them.Because image wise at least.He mirrors no one but Himself.But He did take notice of Them as fuel to Designing His Lyrical Skillset.
Totally agree with everything being sId in this thread. However, I would like to point where Daddy'O has failed to mention and recognize is that Rakim single-handedly changed the not the rap game but the MC game.Not with his storytelling, but with his laid-back flow, and ability to deliver a rhyme without being over excited; like Run DMC, and other artist of time. Unlike most artists, if you seriously listen to most of his songs, there are phases to another song. Either on that album or another past or future. No one at that was doing that. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Those facts in that statement are so 💯 real. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯. RA is definitely the prototype. Always in my top...matter of fact my #1. True Master of the Game. Legend
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"It ain t where you from its where you at" is one of the dopest line ever said in hip hop and it obviously went over his head. The hate he has is strong for Rakim
I think there's two ways of looking at it, yes, in life where you are is very imported, people don't really care about what you did, it's about what you're doing which was Ra's point, but O's point is your roots always matter because that's your foundation, They're both right in their own respects
Respect to Daddy O and Respect to Rakim. "It ain't where you from it's where you at" One of the greatest lines ever in Hip Hop. It speaks nothing but positivity. Let's keep it that way.✌
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Ya know? Whether Daddy-O misunderstood the line or not, I notice that Rakim had MC's so shook that they dared not even address lyrics until 29 years after they were published. So you think it's safe to show up, now? 😁 We shall see.
You are so right. Had this clown said anything back then negative about the R Rakim would have lyrically ended his career but Daddy O ended his career just by being wak AF.
Everyone knew Ra was from Long Island. In “My Melody” he says, “Rough enough to break New York from Long Island.” Mad respect to Daddy-O and Stetsasonic; but I have to disagree.
I hear ya but this is deeper than that Bruh.....he throwing a snowball at the Sun Rakim!!! Why?? I dont get it. Rakim was to dope to even attempt to pull his card on anything!!! Some things dont need to be said. Man anyway...peace out.
He's definitely a legend. But he isn't the end all be all of hip hop. Not even close. Kids today don't know or care about any of them, more less look up to them.
@@Gottiline_Ace yeah, cuz kids today are intentionally being dumbed down and also have no attention span. Thats why they like the simple minded bullshit music, its why most artists these days are putting out songs that are 2.5-3 minutes, its why they mainly just watch short youtube videos and other super short length content on social media platforms. Your claim is insane. I will never let kids, especially this generation, validate to me what and who is good. And
@@jaseallenson316 kids these days don't know shit they literally look at the rappers of today as if they are the only people to do what they are doing and they don't even bother digging into the history of rap or anything and they are easily amazed by regular shit in rap like they've never seen it before
@@usurp7799 100%, but the thing is its our generation(well not sure of your age) that are mainly responsible for how kids are these days. Their minds are intentionally being highjacked(as was our minds were as kids too) and IMO they have it much worse than us because of the internet and social media. We didnt do a good enough job of protecting them and schooling them and leading them in the right direction. Sorry for getting on the soap box, ik you were just talking music which i also think us elders are at least partly responsible for. IMO there were so many old heads that bashed the younger generations music(just like most of our parents did to ours)and because kids are rebellious they are saying fuck your bullshit.
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Yo I'm from Serbia, here we have one similar saying and in translation it should say...'It doesn't matter where you were born, but where you feel good'.. My mother learned us that as kids. And she's the same years as Ra, and btw, she never heard of Rakim at that time before. :) So yea, IAWUFIWU@ :) Peace!
"The melody that I'm styling, smooth as a violin, rough enough to break New York from Long Island" - Rakim My Melody 1986. What is Daddy-O talkin about? Rakim represented Wyandanch to the fullest.
@@darnezlevy5118rakim mentioned long island or wyndanch often "the only I was on was a strong one"- rakim,"rough enough to break New York from long island"
He called him great without saying he is great. When he said he did that "thing" over and over again. Why not give Rakim his props? His style single handedly changed the lyrical content in rap music. He is a legend for that Daddy-O. Stop with the nonsense.
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Daddy-O like many old school Brooklynites has a slight beef with everybody outside of BK. This is because BK had & still has rep for being 'tough', even more than their Rap rep. When 'less tough' boroughs like Queens, LI, etc. (BK in general recognizes Harlem & The Bronx as respectably 'tough') came strong with artists (EPMD, PE, Juice Crew, etc.) some cats were like "they cool but they ain't tough as us". It took Kane, Biggie and Jay-Z for BK to fully get their Rap rep on.
@Shockheadd45 I hear you. Lyrical content masters pre- or around the Rakim era: Melle Mel, Kool Moe Dee, Just-Ice,Special K, T-La Rock, Kool Keith & Ced Gee (Ultramagnetic MC's), Kool G Rap, etc. Rakim must be given props for changing the Rap paradigm and CONSISTENTLY pushing powerful lyricism from '86-'91.
Rakim did speak on where he is from on the jam “My Melody” when he said “ Rough enough to break from New York to Long Island, my wisdom is swift no matter if my momentum is slow mcs still stand stiff “. Ra was definitely proud of where he was from. Listen to what Ra said about himself not what someone else said about him.
@ Charvel white: I was thinking the same thing when Daddy'O said the God never once said where he was from. He not only ref. Long Island but as you pointed out he did it in an iconic line, which actuality went "The Melody that I'm styling, smooth as a Violin, Rough enough to break N.y from Long Island" 🎶 🔥 Classic line, you heard!!!! Nobody messing with the God!!! Big shout to Daddy'O tho
He didnt understand what the God meant about it ain't where u from it's where u at, it means if u from the bronx and yo ass is in Boston, no matter how tough the bronx is or how tough u are u better humble yaself in someone else's neighborhood cause u ain't home nomore..Peace!
That is NOT what that means... It ain't where you come from, it's where you at in your head. It was referring to your mindset! And FYI if you from da BX you rep that forever wherever!!
@@skaijohni3938 ofcourse u rep where u from, what I'm saying is it doesn't matter when u are somewhere else, so if u think u super tough u better humble ya self when u are in another territory because it wont matter when that other state is wooping yo ass and asking u where the bronx at now lmaooooo and fyi I'm from the bronx...Peace!
It's a double, triple, maybe even a quadruple entendre because it can mean many things and all things at the same time. Daddy O is right to a degree where he says NYC had hip hop on smash. Rakim knew that, just like we knew that. But he showed and proved that he could rock with and surpass the best of them, while living in L.I.
Daddy-O saying Rakim isn’t the greatest is like Tito Jackson saying Thriller ain’t shit. This guy is delusional. He’s a contrarian that is frustrated at his lack of acknowledgement in hip hop both past and present. In truth, Stetsasonic was never that great. And for the record, “It ain’t where you’re from, it’s where ya at” made EVERYONE stop thinking about what ‘area’ they were claiming and start thinking about WHO they actually were as men. For Daddy-O to say this was the biggest lie in hip hop shows how much jealousy he had in his heart for the GOD EMCEE! Let’s be honest, how many Daddy-O rhymes are quoted today? In all the conversations of the greatest rappers of all time, in all of the lists, how many times does the name Daddy-O come up? He was not the best at anything in any era, and this is what frustrates him. Rakim is the GOAT. No debate. “I’ma let my knowledge be born to a perfection. All praise is due to Allah and that’s a blessing.” - Rakim said that 31 YEARS AGO!!!!!!
I go to Queens for queens, get the crew from Brooklyn Make money in Manhattan and never been tooken Go Uptown to the Bronx to boogie-down And be Strong on the Island, recoup and lay around. Daddy O buggin.Ra stated he was from L.I.
Jarrel Ely honestly I'm not too familiar with big Willy style so biasely I'd have to go wit the 18th letter thou Smith's singles on there tore up the charts
Rakim was just so far ahead people still don’t understand. Home town pride is one thing but being the best wherever you’re at in the world is real power.
Mesmerizedbyamy 1 he didn't say Rakim never did. He said Rakim didn't when he first came out. big difference. Edited: my bad I finished listening to the whole thing😀
Damn - I like Daddy-O and Stetsasonic, but he's straight acting like Starscream hating on Megatron in this vid!!!! Rakim would just let his presence be known and he would win a battle with this guy....
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Rakim is just on a much higher spiritual level with his lyrics, delivery and style, it's impossible for people on lower level frequencies to comprehend. Daddy O is insane and delusional if he thinks he is even close to Rakim! Keep followin' the leader dude! I came to overcome before I'm gone By showin' and provin' and lettin' knowledge be born Then after that I'll live forever. You disagree? You say, "Never?" Then follow me From century to century, you'll remember me In history, not a mystery or a memory Called by nature, mind raised in Asia Since you was tricked, I had to raise ya From the cradle to the grave But remember, you're not a slave 'Cause we were put here to be much more than that But we couldn't see because our mind was trapped But I'm here to break away the chains, take away the pains Remake the brains, rebuild my name Again, somebody told you, a little knowledge is dangerous It can't be mixed, diluted, it can't be changed with a Switch. Here's a lesson if you're guessin', if you're borrowin' Hurry hurry step right up and keep followin' The Leader
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Fam daddy was god body became ansar on bushwick & should.be more el li vated but lot are wise but there overstanding is limited because i have heard the god ra on the seventh seal and his overstanding is un match alot of brothers & sisters still need to raise from the dead knowledge has no end especially inform ( body) & outform ( chi = breath)
In ghetto apparel, mind of a Egyptian Pharoah Far from shallow, thoughts travel like an arrow Allah's monotony, so far they can't stop me You know, Ra want property like Mumar Khadafi More thoughts than Bibles, recital - taught disciples A sawed off mic, so words scatter like a rifle Thoughts that's trifle, I'm bustin these for you Aiyyo, technical difficulties is through - RAKIM
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Him saying, " it ain't where you from, it's where you at... Was a motivational statement.. Meaning don't let your circumstances dictate your destiny. Despite the short coming you can make it...
Facts! Daddy O thinks that he was better than what he was.He wasn't iconic like that.He was almost on the level of many Brooklyn groups that made a few hits and now he thinks he's is in the class of Rakim Kane, or even Cool G Rap.The body of Stetsasonic work was impactful, but it was just a cut below some of the artist mentioned above.As far as where your at, im from NYC and born there, but i know cats born and raised in Brooklyn but their family/mom and dad moved out to Long Island.Is he talking illegitimacy now because you had no choice.Some cats from LI like LL moved to and raised in Queens.Please i even moved to Brooklyn for a while.Daddy O is a hater and petty.Its mostly by family migration when your young like i said anybody can move anywhere and stay there.This thinking is gang- like.The vibe was in NYC and the culture anyone who wanted it could reach it grab it stay with family, cousins, fathers, all family in and all over NY and get as much culture and touch hip hop like any other.P.S Ultra Magnetic Mc's with Cool Keith repped just as hard if not harder in some peoples minds.
@Dicemoney Da’meen Rakim was talking about the mentality. Where you are "mentally", even though you might be from meek beginnings, the Blackman is still God.
thank you elevation allah-somebody tell daddy o that-daddy o keeps forgetting that rakim was kicking knowledge and wisdom with his 7 percent learnings when he said that famous line.
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What's wrong with Daddy O. Rakim repped LI , at least on two songs I know of. Everyone knows where the God MC is from. As far as the new Daddy o, smoking the old Daddy o, that shouldn't be a great challenge. In my opinion the old Daddy O was wack. No disrespect tothe Brother, it's just my opinion.
You know what separated Rakim from other MC's! Rah was a lyricist, opposed to other rappers being rappers. That man is the Greatest Of All Time You can't take that from Rakim bro.
Agreed! Rakim is the Sugar Ray Robinson of Hip Hop! Sugar man is the reason why boxer's box the way they do today! Rakim, is the reason why the greats today are lyricists!
Daddy-O .. You wait until 32 years later to come up with this??? Bruh😒 Every MC told a story on da mic 🎙 .. Rakim told a story that had you baffled all the way til 2018??? 🤣🤣🤣 #greatestofalltime
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Ayo, that say a lot to how great the line was! Like u said this can be interpreted in a plethora of different ways. Rakim dropped it back then, and bruh just catching up to it....wow
@@randee4550 Here's the easy explanation for you....He's from LI....That's why he wrote the line with "Rough enough to break New York "FROM" Long Island"....He's breaking NY from Long Island...not Staten Island, not Rhode Island, not Fantasy Island... That's how that says one's from Long Island.....
@@billydanzz That's what YOU get out of that. So many places have been incorporated, into MC lyrics, for years. Melle Mel said "from the coast of California, to the shores of Maine", back in 1979. It doesn't mean he's from either place. Its a rhyme. LL mentioned "Germany, Italy, France, and Japan!" It's not a reference. It's a rhyme. Rakim made no claims, unlike Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5, claiming to be "Bad! Slick! From The Bronx!" (Showdown 1980), BDP "South Bronx", JVC Force "Long Island", Run DMC "Hollis Crew" etc. Rakim made a reference. Not a claim.
if your from Uptown, Brooklyn- bound, The Bronx, Queens, or Long Island Sound, Even other states come right and exact, It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at Since you came here, you have to show and prove And do that dance until it don't move 'Cause all you need is soul self-esteem will release, The rest is up to you, Rakim will say peace...
I’m a tell u like this RAKIM top 10 songs can go head to head against any of the other greats (Jay-Z, PAC, BIG, NAS, Kendrick, Cole, KRS, Kane, Pun, Prodigy, DMX, Face etc)... I definitely got mad love for Stetsasonic, but Daddy-O talkin all that Jazz right now 😂😂😂
Yeah he is disappointing to have had even made this video everything he said on this video wrong ! I know you ain't nice cause you ain't understand shit ra said🤔🤔🤔
When I first saw this video, I thought Daddy-O was BUGGIN'!! Then months later, I really listened to what he said, and I now understand him. He's not simply coming from a place of hate...it's more like sorrow. He (and many other rap artists from that 86-87 time period) were at the top of their game and then this young kid Rakim came along and singlehandedly rendered that era obsolete. Now, you either followed the leader (pun intended) or got left behind in the "old school". Like Run DMC, Whodini, Fat Boys, etc, Daddy-O and his group couldn't adapt to Rakim's format and therefore their careers came to a screeching halt. I would feel the sorrow too if that was me.
so what you're saying is Daddy O was bitter, I get that, but I feel he took it the wrong way, it wasn't meant as a diss it was positive life advice, Daddy O buggin'
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Big Daddy Kane was willing wanting and ready to battle him. And he would have won. But Rakim didnt lie. When he said it ain't were u from its were u at. Meaning dont talk about were u from all day. If u from NYC and u in Los Angles they don't care were u from. U try to talk that outta town shit anywhere over n over. Niggaz from anywhere gone say nigga I hear u. But this is we're u are at. Period
@@therealsyxx I saw a interview with BDK. He mentioned he was ready at a particular location to meet Rakim face to face for a battle. He also mentioned that he called Rakim that day instead he got Eric B. Eric said Rakim wasn't able to make it. My thing is if Kane was ready then he would've responded to Let The Rythm Hit Em regardless. Rakim made it for Kane. Kane never responded to that track.
@@stonestanza Pac stole some of Rakim concepts. Who you think started the 7 theory?. Pac never came at Rakim or mentioned him on records. Pac did that tribute to the oldschool. On Me Against The World album. So he payed homage to most of the 80's hiphop. My thing is we can talk Kane & what 2pac said but no one tested Rakim. They all knew including Kane. As dope as Kane was ,& he was basically untouchable for a short while. Kane knew what could possibly happen if he battled Rakim. Even Eric Sermon admitted that he didn't want any parts of Rakim.
@@oldschoolhiphop2275 All facts and Pac could never come close to Rakim . Even Eminem wants no parts of Rakim on any level bar for Bar Rakim is the greatest of all time
In his second single "My Melody" Rakim clearly reps Long Island. Daddy-O knock it off with this revisionists history. I'm from that era and everyone was clear where Rakim came from
The melody that I’m stylin /smooth as a Violin/ rough enough to break NY from Long Island - My Melody. That’s just one of many times he mention where he from how do people not remember this. 🤦♂️
I started listening to hip hop in 1984 and was deep into it by 1987. I bought "On Fire" and "In Full Gear" when they came out, and love them to this day., same with all of Eric B. & Rakim's early stuff. I remember listening to all the greats of hip hop's "golden age" and thinking at the time that it was special and different. Even back then though, I knew that Rakim was on another level. His writing, wordplay, and flow were better than anybody else. No disrespect to the other greats of that era, including Daddy O. Put it this way, I don't know if you can really drop the mic and say that Rakim was the greatest of his generation, but who was better? Who can you legit put ahead of him on the list? Nobody.
MILAN FERNANDEZ This nigga bugging. He knows Rakim is the greatest.....He probably speaking from some personal shit he got against Takin. First he said Rakim not the greatest. And then he said he's a liar. Come on calling him a liar....Yeah that's personal
@@everydaydre1185 Daddy o is clearly hating,would like to know who he thought was better in that era,and overall.too bad the follow up questions wasn't asked
No disrespect to The legend Daddy O, but Rakim is not only the greatest MC ever he is also easily the most influential MC ever to be birthed on planet earth. Thats why I feel Daddy O completely missed the point of what Rakim meant when he said "It ain't where you're from it's where you're at In the Ghetto." That line is about not where you're at physically but mentally in the Ghetto. It's about elevating yourself not just physically passed the Ghetto but mentally beyond the Ghetto.
Elvin Solano, U hit the nail on the head brother! I was saying the same thing as I was watching this video. And Daddy O is cool... but he definitely missed that point!
Stetsasonic should have their own Unsung episode, since I've always felt they were big-time underrated, and rarely seem to be name-checked when it comes to talking about classic '80s rappers. Loved "Talking All That Jazz" by them. Big Daddy actually looks like he hasn't aged since their heyday, even with the little grey hair he got, lol.
that's just a sly metaphor. anyone can say that line. he didn;t say repping long island or anything. rakim was not always confident about being from long island. its a fact, you could hear it from the way he talked. daddy o is right here.
I really enjoyed watching this interview. It was nice to see Daddy O still around doin' his thing, and lookin' healthy! I think he dropped a lot of knowledge, but I do agree with all of you that expressed that perhaps he took that line out of context. I'm sure most of you are aware that we live in a racist/prejudiced/judgmental world. People are denied opportunities, looked down upon, exploited, and worse, based on color, where they are from, social class, etc., etc. This was a very powerful line for me as well! I saw it beyond a matter of geographical location. What it said to me was that no matter what life circumstances/situations, etc., you come from you have to rise above it, keep your 'ish moving forward, and that's what really matters!
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Please. Daddy O is a legendary B boy. I saw the six turntables back in the day. I have mad respect for RAKIM. For those of us old enough to remember. The skill, the finesse of the early pioneers. Daddy O doesn’t need to lie. You had to know NYC. It takes a lot to be the king of NYC. Many wore the crown. Long Island. That’s not on the same level as the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens(which extends into Long Island!). Money making Manhattan. In Hip Hop history.
Rakim’s complex word play and being able to rap to the speed of 110 bpm change the game Kane , G Rap, even Melle Mel , Caz and Kool Moe Dee Would try to do what he was doing. They all made records at the the speed of 110 after Rakim did it . When your peers copy you that’s one thing but when the pioneers are trying to what your doing that’s another different level which in fact makes you the greatest !!!!!!!!!!!! Rakim is the greatest !!!
This dude must be tripping... rakim, de la soul, public enemy, epmd... the list goes on. Rakim was the first rapper to ever mention Long Island on a track in the 80s.
He sure is tripping during that time Long Island had the best M c's and they are still all the best M c's who's messing with Long Island everybody came to Long Island. All roads lead to Long Island
Public Enemy did mention Long Island in the track "Rebel without a pause" which came out as a single record in the very same month July 87 as like as Eric B & Rakim´s album Paid in Full.(on the B side was "Sophisticated Bitch" from their first album "Yo Bum rush the show" which came out few months earlier in the same year) I´m a time witness and bought both brand new released records = the Public Enemy single "Rebel without a pause" + Eric B &Rakim´s album "Paid in full" on the very same day in July 87. The Long Island reference is in the 3rd verse and is going like this: Strong Island, where I got them whylin´ That´s the reason they claiming that I´m violent Never silent, no dope, getting dumb - Nope Claiming where we get our rhythm from Number one, we hit ya and we´re give ya some And by the way just to put the record straight here in every detail PE were the very first who referenced Long Island as "Strong Island" in a track while Rakim´s line in Check out the melody is refering to Long Island as Long Island.
RA had the best punch lines and beats!!!! His cadence and delivery was impeccable!!! The inflection of his voice even though it was capped or sounded muffled you could still hear every word he was saying.....!!
Daddy-O no disrespect but he a LIE...RAKIM said in records he from Long Island aka STRONG ISLAND!!! And once again no diss to the OG but RAKIM will kill Daddy-O easy no debate!!! Now let's get to RAKIM saying "Its Not Where You From Its Where You At"...Rakim didnt mean literally he meant mentally it's all about growth so this further shows the advancement in Rakim lyrical content compared to his peers in his prime & Daddy-O just showed his hand that he still havent caught that line 30 years later smh lol!!!
Not only that bro but also literally go to LA popping that I'm from Brooklyn noise (or vice versa) and watch how fast you get lit up. Therefore, "it ain't where you from it's where you at"
He smokin dust and poppin Adderall, daddy o nic but he aint dat nice, he tryna get his rating boosted, let me listen to his new shit and judge him even tho i should not bee
I was a teenager when I heard the line. That's how I understood it. I came fr a lousy suburb town and when I moved to the City, I had to represent with skills. Breaking and DJ skills.
It’s not where you from, it’s where you at. Is deeper than your “place” Rakim was rapping and teachings culture. It means you might have been in jail, on drugs, a stripp etc but you can now be Conscious, Positive and active in the Struggle. ❤
Completely Disagree!!!!!!! I was just listening to the song You Know I Got Soul by Eric B And Rakim: The Line was "Now if you're from Uptown, or Brooklyn Bound, The Bronx, Queens or Long Island Sound, even other States come right and exact (It ain't where you from, it's where you're at)"!! This single line grew what the establishment thought was a fad, into the most supreme and politically conscious genre of musical art ever; Rap Music. It gave license to that of Naughty By Nature, The Geto Boys, NWA, The Big Tymers, TI, Scarface, Missy Elliot, Will Smith. Snoop, Dre, Tupac, Mad Skillz, Pharell, Kanye, Eminem, Timbaland, Pusha T. Too Short, Digital Underground, Mach-10, E-40, Eightball and MJG, Outkast, Da Brat, and many, many more. Old thinkers like Daddy-O wanted rap to be a New York thing only. But The Fiend of the Rhyme, had a prophesy, and provision to grow this thing to plateaus previously unimagined, and heights previously inconceivable.
Daddy-O is an ol' head regionalist. He made a big deal of Rakim not mentioning Long Island in his first rhymes because he's from that "we from Brooklyn, we hard!" school. Rakim was bigger than that; he repped LI and opened it up for "other states come right & exact" and let the WHOLE world know "it ain't where you, it's where you at". Daddy-O tries to be slick saying he's about the other regions beyond NYC but his statement fails him when shades LI and Ra. It's all good.
I concur! It gave those of us not from NYC the stamp to do what we loved, because of NYC. If Rakim Allah could show respect to all those with skills, regardless of their location, it bridged that gap and then brought us closer.
I take 7 MC's put em in a line And add 7 more brothas who think they can rhyme Well, it'll take 7 more before I go for mine And that's 21 MC's ate up at the same time
hasani07 good point. We could be from the hood or from a gated community its all about where the mind frame is at the PRESENT time that will determine where we going involving future endeavors.
The line following that line explains it. "Since you came here you have to show and prove" Meaning, it don't matter WHERE you came from but when you step up to that mic, turntables, breaking etc. you have to SHOW AND PROVE... Being from New York doesn't automatically mean you're a BEAST on that mic and saying where you from gets no pass either, show and PROVE it.
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I’m not hating on Daddy O for his comments, as they don’t seem to come from animosity. We just strongly disagree. I’ve just never heard an MC with a mastery of language and rhyme and rhythm and hyperbole as Rakim. Not even 30 plus years later. My friends and I would rewind his tapes back 10 and 15 times just to hear one of his lines. It took that many times to piece those thoughts together and digest the words. He was super cool and smooth on the delivery, when everyone else yelled and swung arms around and looked angry. Ra never blew his cool in an interview or on a recording, etc. Who the greatest is will always be left to personal opinion, but I would never speak (as Daddy O seems to have) as though Rakim wasn’t one of, if not the best ever.
I mean, I liked Stet back in the day...all of 'em. But, who in the hell is Daddy-O to undermine Ra's legitimacy? Is this dude for real? Tell another joke, bruh.
@@garagegorilla5x5 , case-in-point. But, I bet you can name several hits by Eric B. & Rakim. Why, because this is what all the greats do; they stamp your brain. By the way, "Sally" was a killer hit by Stetsasonic. Props to all my 70's babies. We still in here. AAAIIIGGGHHHTTT!!!😀✌🏾
Just my humble opinion Rakim gets that title because he was the first one to break away from the old school cadence flow and took flow to a new modern flow…that was game breaking back then …just my opinion 🤷♂️ #Dopeness
Rakim said where he was from in My Melody. ( The melody that I'm stylin, smooth as a violin Rough enough to break New York from Long Island)There it is check the lyrics Daddy-O DON'T KNOW...
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DADDY O SOUNDS LIKE HE SOLD OUT BECAUSE CLEARLY HE DON'T LISTEN AND OVERSTAND RAKIM STRONG ISLAND AND RAKIM WAS TALKING ABOUT A MENTAL STATE NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION DADDY O LOST MY RESPECT
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"The only Island I was on is the strong one and if I did a bid I would be a long one" -- Rakim So he did say he was from Long Island in a song Daddy O. Just FYI.
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It aint where you from it's where you at. It was based on the mindset of an individual. This lyrics dealt with GROWTH. Where I am now mentally is NOT where I am NOW. Understand the context of the song. Just my thoughts that differ from my good brother Daddy O. Respect.
My problem with he's take is: 1 the record was called "I know you got soul" a party record. Meant for everyone. 2 if you look at the lyrics he says i wanna see which posse can dance the best. He first shouts out all of N.Y. long island included. 3 then he says "even other states come right and exact, it aint where you from its where u at". Talking about at a party. One of the reasons he is beloved by so many, texas cali, Florida...is after he shouted out his city he shouted out everywhere. (With one rhyme).
Yeah you on point with this. That record was a party call not a rep record. Thats why they usually open live shows with that track. Even now that they are touring again its usually 1st or 2nd on set list. Gets the crowd hyped. Move the crowd was another record like this.
"It's not where your from, it's where ya at" is from the song "In The Ghetto". The line is about uplifting yourself beyond your physical surrondings. Come on Daddy-O
This is exactly how I have always interpreted that line. Rakim always rhymed using double entendres. On the surface it seemed like he was talking strictly about hip hop culture (battling weak MCs) but the alternate meaning was a message of uplifting the oppressed (that is practically all of his songs but I reference Follow the Leader as an example). When I hear that line in both "I Know You Got Soul" and In The Ghetto" I take it to mean that regardless of what poor circumstance you may come from your mentality and understanding of yourself will take you where you want to be life. It had nothing to do with something as petty as not representing Long Island. Daddy-O, I am just SMH. You know the God is deeper than that.
1djdamn Valid point. Daddy-O probably was talking about "I know you got soul". But even if you take the line from there AND interpret it literally, Ra mentions 4 of the Boroughs & LONG ISLAND 2 lines before saying "it ain't wherr your from....". I'm fine with Daddy-O not thinking Rakim is the GOAT. That's a matter of opinion. But his points....I dunno man.
What a joke. Nobody comes close to Rakim, without a doubt the greatest mic controller who ever lived. Rarely if ever cursed, rarely if ever put down women, and rarely if ever promoted violence, yet everyone stops and listens to him spit with mad respect because he not only demands your attention, but he teaches and makes you think; "I came to overcome and then I'm gone", and he did just that.
Funny thing he didn't say who he thought was the g o a t. I believe he is secretly or passive aggressively beefing because of the burroughs thing. But that's just me. I wonder if Ra will respond.
@Kicker Ass I feel ya. But I'm sensing he's thinking some cat that few if any of us would put on our list. Some underground cat that no one heard of or someone from back in the day that we slept on and will continue to sleep on.
Hmm....I guess this argument is all fine and dandy....but stetsasonic was neverrrrrrrrrrr listened to in my circles, yawn. Yet Rakim never goes out of style for me.
Young Black Anomaly yeah, not sure what these dudes are talking about. From Philly, and Stets was played and they were dope. We're they on Rakim's level? Nah! But, they were dope though. Dudes in hear acting like they were some poobutts. As for him saying Rakim told a lie in his like about "where ya from its where ya at", he repped his hood. But, he was letting dudes know just because he from strong island, he will still bust a dudes ass from.Boogie down, or Brooklyn. And, RAKIM DID, with the exception of KRS haha
BooredFemme - The Roots are the ‘modern day’ version of Stetsasonic. When The Roots first came out, the same amount of people that listened to them.... also listened to Stetsasonic back in their heyday too. Over the years, The Roots name just got way more popular than Stetsasonic’s ever did. But trust, lots of people listened to Stetsasonic. They had music videos & got spins on the Radio-n all that.
Homeboys need to check the emotions at the door. They feel who they like or listened to is that dude. I'm about to start some shit. It's like Tupac. his lyrical games wasn't up to snuff. It was the shit around him, and bruthas get blinded by that and say "he the best rapper" and shit like that. Hmmmm HELL NAH. making "Thuggin" popular on the crossover doesn't make you one of the best MC. True enough, he may be one of the most influential, but on the straight MC tip, NAH. Homeboys who grew up during the MCing days, NOT the rapper days, know the difference. Tupac could rap, but his flow was basic to me. Very basic.
@@Keepdapocket - Lots of people consider Tupac 'one of the best' because of 'the vast amount' of lyrics he wrote in a short timeframe. His work ethic was ridiculous. Tupac was writing like 5 albums worth of raps at a time when it took most emcees a whole year just to write 1 single album. Seriously. Don't forget, Tupac was the very first (solo) hip-hop artist to ever drop a double-album ("All Eyez On Me"). He changed the whole rap game when he did that. And he was the very first (solo) hip-hop artist to have 2 different albums debut at #1 on the Billboard Charts in the very same year. (In 1996, "All Eyez On Me" and "Makaveli" both debuted at #1 on Billboard). Think about how much WORK that actually takes.... especially when Tupac was writing his own (full-length) albums... PLUS penning countless 'features' on other people's tracks... PLUS doing some ghostwriting for his own clique (The Outlawz)... PLUS filming movies. Rehearsing lines. Making TV appearances. Doing Interviews. AND doing Shows. AND going on Tour. And making music videos. And Fighting court cases. ALL at the same time. Don't forget, Tupac died and still had even more material that had never been released. They were still dropping Tupac albums... years after he died.
Roger Black hmm valid points, however, you're forgetting ONE major thing. By the time Pac came out in the game rapped crossed over. So those #1 album sales are by white kids is Des Moines, Iowa. Rakim didn't have that chance. Kane didn't have that chance. KRS One didn't have that chance. Why? Because they came from the purest era of hip hop. No radio play other than black stations. MTV had to dedicate a segment for rap only (YO! MTV raps). So, again, to judge off sales and charts? That's null.and void because whites got a hold of rap by then. As for the work Pac out in? Sure, he wrote a lot of songs. Hell, Prince wrote and album damn near every four months. But, tell me this. Why is it the great MC don't mention Pac in the great list? You hear about Rakim, Kane, KRS, even Kool Moe Dee, as far as the MC. Why? Because they were pure Pack benefited from being fake because the times promoted that. YEAH I SAID IT. FAKE!!!! If you have an open mind it's CLEAR. Pack was no damn gangsta. He wasn't a thug. Hell, he was even a damn stick up/snatch kid. He was a "performing arts" kid. A conscious kid. He wasn't a street kid by any stretch of the means. Yet, bruthas (and sistas) fell for the BS of this hit em up type shit? Really? Who was he hitting up? Some white kid in his drama class? Nah, the 90's glorified this "gangsta rap" mentality because WHITE KIDS loved it. So sales were inflated vastly. More airplay both radio and TV. You never heard Rakim and those likes on any white radio, have you? Hell nah, because they were from the pure age before it crossed over. Hell, at least biggie rapped on his real shit. He sold. He hustled. So, to me, being in my mid 40's, being dead smack from the birth of hip hop, it was about being real. So, I look at an MC from a different perspective. Give me real, not sales!!!!!
If you take what Rakim said literally you might agree with Daddy-O’s view, but Rakim’s lyrics always transcended the obvious meanings that listeners were used to from emcees & rappers. I always took it that “It ain’t where you’re from, it’s where you’re at”... IN LIFE!! Like, no matter what your past is, you can determine what your present and future. Just because you were born and raised In The Ghetto doesn’t mean that you have to be STUCK in the ghetto... mentally or physically. Raking always promoted ideas and philosophies of mind elevation!
Melle Mel dropped true poetry. Love his rhymes. When your works of art brought into being All that the ghetto stopped you from seeing Bums on the sidewalk, garbage in the street Abandoned buildings, bricks of concrete The ladies on the corner are sellin that body And everybody wants a part in that party I'm hangin' out tough rockin' late at night Runnin' wild in the town of the neon lights You either play some ball or stand in the hall Huh, you gotta make somethin' out of nothin' at all I'm sittin' in the classroom learnin' the rules And it says you can't do graffiti in school That can't be wrong in the hallowed hall So my notebook turned into a big wall
Rakim was one for metaphors. "It ain't where you from,it's where your at" could very easily be a metaphor. Also shouting out where your from wasn't a big deal for all MC's For many of us growing up listening to rap,it was enough to know Rakim reps NY. No further discussion is necessary
Hating ass OG. He outta be ashamed of himself. Does he not kno the hip hop unwritten law is to NEVER say anything that can be taken negative about the GOD Rakim or KRS -1 !!!!! Rakim always repped Strong lsland. My Melody 1986 (His second song B side to Eric B for President" "The melody that I'm stylin, smooth as a violin Rough enough to break New York from Long Island" Daddy O suffers from what a lot people suffer from when they listen to GOATS. The lyrics go over their heads and complete jealousy.
RAKIM....THE G.O.A.T. That 7 MCs line was hard, but what made it even harder was on a different album he said "Stand up freeze..Or you'll be one of those 7 MCs". He had the intelligence to reference a bar on an entirely different album.......GENIUS!
I am a Stet fan and a Daddio fan . However , I disagree with him about the famous line , "it aint where you from , its where you at " . New York was (is) the mecca of hip hop , so when I heard that line , I took it to mean that where Im from was included and embraced in hip hop . That line made me feel apart of what was being birthed backed then when other places didnt have a voice . But I definitely respect Daddios opinion
What do you guy's think about what Daddy- O said ? Do you agree or Not. Tell me Why
Kraze The King of Content before the roots it was stetsasonic the original hip-hop band
Rakim changed the lyric game.
Problem is he stopped growing.
Daddy-O is a legend. He's entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Rappers from Long island didn't claim it? JVC Force made a whole song about where they were from, Strong Island. Public Enemy talked about being from Long island on their records. So what if Rakim didn't say where he was from. This interview just sounded like gibberish to me.
@@communityparty5560 agreed
@@communityparty5560 when checked on that Daddy O agreed yeah PE, EPMD and De La claimed it. did u not hear that part? he was not talking gibberish in this interview.. and yes he is entitled to his own opinion. and that's all it was here
"It's ain't where you're from, it's where you're at"
I always interpreted that as one's state of mind. Not geographical importance. 😎
U hit it on the head...
perfectbeat i agree. I always felt that he meant no matter where you at if you share the Hip Hop state of mind you good.
perfectbeat same here bruh.
@@countsekou490 Yeah bro, Rakim is God....It's ain't where you're from, it's where you're at" I always interpreted that as one's state mind. Not geographical importance, PERFECT.
I concur
I thought Rakim meant it's where you're at mentally. Not where you're at literally. That's what I get from that line.
That's exactly what he meant...daddi o tripping...
Exactly !!!!!!
I gotta lotta love for this dude but I think you fellas are right. Daddy-O be tripping!
I was just gonna type that. That's always how I understood it also.
That's how I read it.
One thing is for sure... No one will ever say Daddy O is the greatest
No one?🤔
It's a big world.😅
He is still a pioneer and mattered! Period.
@@daddyfamlittle6262 No one is arguing he was not a pioneer or that he never mattered. Read the comment again. read it out loud and sound out the words if you have to.
Rakim is to rap what Chuck Berry is to rock n roll. He didn't invent his genre but he redefined it forever and influenced countless artist after him
My guy.. chuck berry did invent rock and roll
@@caRTAGENANYC Rock N Roll is just the Blues played faster and louder. I can't give Chuck credit for this because his peers like Bo Diddley and Little Richard contributed just as much to the genre that Chuck did in terms of it's sound. Big respect to all of these pioneers.
I agree
@@caRTAGENANYC and dint forget ike turner ,chuck berry and Ike turner started rocking roll
Wow well said , this belong on a shirt or tattoo 😮😮❤
The God Emcee always represented Strong Island. "It ain't where you from, it's where you at" is speaking about a level of consciousness.
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Thank you Bro Markus- right to the point! One of the greatest lyrics in rap.
"The melody that I'm styling, smooth as a violin
Rough enough to break New York from Long Island" -C'MON MAN! Daddy O lying to HIMSELF!
Also at that time who was messing with Long Island Long Island Long Island had some of the baddest M c's and they are still the baddest M c's in New York. Hands down
@@RC51Legend That's what I'm talking about. Ra repped Long Island always and often. Maybe he's high on something everytime he listens to a Rakim verse.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG DADDY-O!!!!
1st of all The line states, "Even other states come right and exact. It ain't where you're from it's where you're at".
You took that line way out of context. That line inspired thousands of MC's all over the country to have the courage to spit from their hole in the wall hometowns. Rakim meant you don't have to be from New York to be an MC's because as we all know back then New York ran HipHop. It was the birthplace of it! And for a New Yorker at the height of his game to say that to cats like me in Baltimore and other heads all over the country at that time was huge and that is 1 of the reasons why he is the greatest. Because it was inspiring others to go for theirs.
2nd of all Rakim stated where he was from on a number of records like MY MELODY he mention Long Island when he said, "The rhyme that I'm Stylin, Smooth as a violin, But rough enough to break New York from Long Island", GHETTO "The only Island I was on was the strong one. And if I did a bid it a be a long one".
Preach my brotha. I’m asking myself has this guy heard all of Rakims music. I from the Midwest and my favorite rappers early in my life we’re from the west coast because it’s what my big cuzzin played and I idolized him and his criminal life style. But when I started fuckin with the east coast, And being that I admire REAL lyricism. RAKIM WAS AN INSTANT NO BRAINER for me. And I definitely remember him reppin strong island.
YesSir... I was thinking the same thing. Daddy-O is way out of bounds.
Wyandanch Long Island
Jewels!!!
Str8 up Science!!!
Rakim said "It ain't where ya from it's where ya at." That statement has a meaning. Meaning wherever you roam respect the laws of that land...respect the street codes of whatever hood you travel to and stay in your lane....don't think you can't get rolled on and hemmed up in another 'hood just cuz your street wise and come from a tough 'hood back in your stomping grounds. R is my favorite all time emcee. I'm from Uptown BX.
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SunGod Asiatic, Valid point! How many times have we encountered people who want to take the reputation of where they’re from into a new location. How many times were they using that reputation to disrespect where they were at the moment. “You can’t do that out here.” “Respect the laws of the land...” Very valid point!
@@KaygeeAllah Yes God!!! 1000% and Daddy-O disappoints me with his comments. Daddy-O is a Hip Hop Pioneer but I find his comments regarding Rakim Allah very misplaced, uncalled for and having no merit.
Totally agree Daddy - O didnt get the meaning of the line. You cant take 1 line & give it your own meaning. The verse lead to the line to wake people up. Someone from kansas has to realize the shit they do & belive dont fly in NYC. That line was preparing you to travel & know that noone cares where u came from...only wut u doin here
@@FourTreDubbCity Absolutely FourTre. Absolutely!!!! And simply stating "It ain't where ya from is where ya at" is not minimizing where you're from at all...it simply means conduct yourself accordingly when your in different hood. And you right FourTre, Daddy-O took that one line and flipped it around on some crazy tip and got it all twisted.
The fact that Rakim didn't need to listen to other artists to get better...he didn't need to be exposed to the rhyme styles of today to improve because he is the prototype. This further proves his omnipotence in hip-hop. He is a god amongst men. He is the illest, and he mentioned "Strong Island" in his first album!
True man no reference just pure creator
as soon as I heard him say something about Rakim didn't shout out his origins, i thought "well, where the f♡¿k did I hear the phrase strong island?"
I feel You saying that.But even The Great RA looked at something.And that something was The late Great "John Coltrane".Along with a few others like The Great "Miles Davis".As far as MC's go! I call Them The Primordial 3 God's of Hip-Hop.And That's Grandmaster Caz,Grandmaster Melle Mel and Kool Moe Dee.And can't Forget TLA Rock.I'm not saying He necessarily needed Them.Because image wise at least.He mirrors no one but Himself.But He did take notice of Them as fuel to Designing His Lyrical Skillset.
Totally agree with everything being sId in this thread. However, I would like to point where Daddy'O has failed to mention and recognize is that Rakim single-handedly changed the not the rap game but the MC game.Not with his storytelling, but with his laid-back flow, and ability to deliver a rhyme without being over excited; like Run DMC, and other artist of time. Unlike most artists, if you seriously listen to most of his songs, there are phases to another song. Either on that album or another past or future. No one at that was doing that. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Those facts in that statement are so 💯 real. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯.
RA is definitely the prototype. Always in my top...matter of fact my #1. True Master of the Game. Legend
He looks like a mix between Kevin hart and David banner
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Haaaaa funny observation. Lol!!
Throw Wesley Snipes in there also.
He really do
"The Melody That I'm Stylin, Smooth As A Violin, Rough Enough To Break New York From Long Island" ----- My Melody Rakim Allah
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Shit like that....u deserve a don't dimarco as well
Don*
emanu'El mosche talk to dis nigga
Yes! I knew he repped.
Daddy-O in this video is doing exactly what he said in the Statsasonic joint..." Talking All That Jazz"
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What the fuck is wrong with Daddy O. He's old ass out of touch was nigga
Now he nice. He wasn't nice back in the day. Nigga please
You know
Lol😂😂😂😂
"It ain t where you from its where you at" is one of the dopest line ever said in hip hop and it obviously went over his head. The hate he has is strong for Rakim
Definitely...
Sounds like the Madd Rapper! Y is he so Madd?🤣🤣🤣
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I think there's two ways of looking at it, yes, in life where you are is very imported, people don't really care about what you did, it's about what you're doing which was Ra's point, but O's point is your roots always matter because that's your foundation, They're both right in their own respects
Whata great about that line?
Respect to Daddy O and Respect to Rakim. "It ain't where you from it's where you at" One of the greatest lines ever in Hip Hop. It speaks nothing but positivity. Let's keep it that way.✌
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I agree. Daddy O is a GOD himself but his opinion is his opinion. Just that
"The only island I was on was the Strong One" --- Rakim
Ya know? Whether Daddy-O misunderstood the line or not, I notice that Rakim had MC's so shook that they dared not even address lyrics until 29 years after they were published. So you think it's safe to show up, now? 😁 We shall see.
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Lol he's coming for your ass. Lyrics of Fury
My thoughts....
You are so right. Had this clown said anything back then negative about the R Rakim would have lyrically ended his career but Daddy O ended his career just by being wak AF.
@@mcspitvicious That’s cold.
Everyone knew Ra was from Long Island. In “My Melody” he says, “Rough enough to break New York from Long Island.” Mad respect to Daddy-O and Stetsasonic; but I have to disagree.
That doesn't ascertain as to where one's from though
Do you mean Long Island New York
@@marvinburton721 hahaha
No respect for Daddy O after this
Right! Daddy-O is low key hating on the God Mc
He’s entitled to his wrong opinion. 🙂 Rakim is the GOAT.
I hear ya but this is deeper than that Bruh.....he throwing a snowball at the Sun Rakim!!! Why?? I dont get it. Rakim was to dope to even attempt to pull his card on anything!!! Some things dont need to be said. Man anyway...peace out.
True
Bruh Rakim is, was and will always be a legend!
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He's definitely a legend. But he isn't the end all be all of hip hop. Not even close. Kids today don't know or care about any of them, more less look up to them.
@@Gottiline_Ace yeah, cuz kids today are intentionally being dumbed down and also have no attention span. Thats why they like the simple minded bullshit music, its why most artists these days are putting out songs that are 2.5-3 minutes, its why they mainly just watch short youtube videos and other super short length content on social media platforms. Your claim is insane. I will never let kids, especially this generation, validate to me what and who is good. And
@@jaseallenson316 kids these days don't know shit they literally look at the rappers of today as if they are the only people to do what they are doing and they don't even bother digging into the history of rap or anything and they are easily amazed by regular shit in rap like they've never seen it before
@@usurp7799 100%, but the thing is its our generation(well not sure of your age) that are mainly responsible for how kids are these days. Their minds are intentionally being highjacked(as was our minds were as kids too) and IMO they have it much worse than us because of the internet and social media. We didnt do a good enough job of protecting them and schooling them and leading them in the right direction. Sorry for getting on the soap box, ik you were just talking music which i also think us elders are at least partly responsible for. IMO there were so many old heads that bashed the younger generations music(just like most of our parents did to ours)and because kids are rebellious they are saying fuck your bullshit.
It ain't where you from its where you at. That 1 bar means more than a location, it also means a mindstate.
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PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Silky Johnson say it again Silky Johnson, SAY IT AGAIN! I like Daddy-O but he is lunching on this... Gas face.
Yo I'm from Serbia, here we have one similar saying and in translation it should say...'It doesn't matter where you were born, but where you feel good'.. My mother learned us that as kids. And she's the same years as Ra, and btw, she never heard of Rakim at that time before. :) So yea, IAWUFIWU@ :) Peace!
"The melody that I'm styling, smooth as a violin, rough enough to break New York from Long Island" - Rakim My Melody 1986. What is Daddy-O talkin about? Rakim represented Wyandanch to the fullest.
Rakim stamped long island as strong island,wtf is he talking about.daddy o is talking gibberish
That was Chuck D.
@@darnezlevy5118rakim mentioned long island or wyndanch often "the only I was on was a strong one"- rakim,"rough enough to break New York from long island"
@@darnezlevy5118 rakim made a song called "strong island" on his album the master, don't play with me.lol I know my rakim stuff
@@jaylovejustice11 Long Island was known as Strong Island before Rakim ever released a record youngster. See JVC Force - Strong Island 1988
@@los2166 Really bro??? JVC Force in 1988? You know Rakim came out in '86, right?
He called him great without saying he is great. When he said he did that "thing" over and over again. Why not give Rakim his props? His style single handedly changed the lyrical content in rap music. He is a legend for that Daddy-O. Stop with the nonsense.
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Daddy-O like many old school Brooklynites has a slight beef with everybody outside of BK. This is because BK had & still has rep for being 'tough', even more than their Rap rep. When 'less tough' boroughs like Queens, LI, etc. (BK in general recognizes Harlem & The Bronx as respectably 'tough') came strong with artists (EPMD, PE, Juice Crew, etc.) some cats were like "they cool but they ain't tough as us". It took Kane, Biggie and Jay-Z for BK to fully get their Rap rep on.
@Shockheadd45 I hear you. Lyrical content masters pre- or around the Rakim era: Melle Mel, Kool Moe Dee, Just-Ice,Special K, T-La Rock, Kool Keith & Ced Gee (Ultramagnetic MC's), Kool G Rap, etc. Rakim must be given props for changing the Rap paradigm and CONSISTENTLY pushing powerful lyricism from '86-'91.
@Michael Hunter True. There are too many to name but Caz deserves his props.
@Mrcjizzle73 Indeed Rakim & Kool G. Rap are grandmasters of lyricism.
Rakim did mention he was from Long Island indirectly when he said in check out my melody "rough enough to bake New York from Long Island"
He was subtle and way above all that shit. Daddy o trippin by interpreting that lyric this way
@Bernard Hilfiger i did not say anything was wrong with him rappin beyond his stomping grounds
exactly thank you kid-he said it in my melody-daddy o needs to pay more attention.
Jonathan Kidd he had a whole song called Strong Island
I thought he said, "Rough enough to *make* New York from Long Island."
Rakim did speak on where he is from on the jam “My Melody” when he said “ Rough enough to break from New York to Long Island, my wisdom is swift no matter if my momentum is slow mcs still stand stiff “. Ra was definitely proud of where he was from. Listen to what Ra said about himself not what someone else said about him.
@ Charvel white: I was thinking the same thing when Daddy'O said the God never once said where he was from. He not only ref. Long Island but as you pointed out he did it in an iconic line, which actuality went "The Melody that I'm styling, smooth as a Violin, Rough enough to break N.y from Long Island" 🎶 🔥
Classic line, you heard!!!!
Nobody messing with the God!!!
Big shout to Daddy'O tho
I agree Rakim is one of my favorites regardless.
Bruh was that not a classic, the “21 mfs” verse was my fave
That lines was super Ill!!!
Rough enough to break NY from Long Island.
He didnt understand what the God meant about it ain't where u from it's where u at, it means if u from the bronx and yo ass is in Boston, no matter how tough the bronx is or how tough u are u better humble yaself in someone else's neighborhood cause u ain't home nomore..Peace!
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P.E.A.C.E. Born. I think that's one of the multiple ways the G.O.D. meant it, which is why cats shouldn't sleep on his teachings through rap. Peace.
That is NOT what that means... It ain't where you come from, it's where you at in your head. It was referring to your mindset! And FYI if you from da BX you rep that forever wherever!!
@@skaijohni3938 ofcourse u rep where u from, what I'm saying is it doesn't matter when u are somewhere else, so if u think u super tough u better humble ya self when u are in another territory because it wont matter when that other state is wooping yo ass and asking u where the bronx at now lmaooooo and fyi I'm from the bronx...Peace!
It's a double, triple, maybe even a quadruple entendre because it can mean many things and all things at the same time. Daddy O is right to a degree where he says NYC had hip hop on smash. Rakim knew that, just like we knew that. But he showed and proved that he could rock with and surpass the best of them, while living in L.I.
Daddy-O saying Rakim isn’t the greatest is like Tito Jackson saying Thriller ain’t shit.
This guy is delusional. He’s a contrarian that is frustrated at his lack of acknowledgement in hip hop both past and present.
In truth, Stetsasonic was never that great.
And for the record, “It ain’t where you’re from, it’s where ya at” made EVERYONE stop thinking about what ‘area’ they were claiming and start thinking about WHO they actually were as men.
For Daddy-O to say this was the biggest lie in hip hop shows how much jealousy he had in his heart for the GOD EMCEE!
Let’s be honest, how many Daddy-O rhymes are quoted today? In all the conversations of the greatest rappers of all time, in all of the lists, how many times does the name Daddy-O come up?
He was not the best at anything in any era, and this is what frustrates him.
Rakim is the GOAT. No debate.
“I’ma let my knowledge be born to a perfection. All praise is due to Allah and that’s a blessing.” - Rakim said that 31 YEARS AGO!!!!!!
LMFAO🤣🤣🤣
Did you ever C the six turntables? You had to see it. Like the greatest show men...Dougie E Fresh.
I go to Queens for queens, get the crew from Brooklyn
Make money in Manhattan and never been tooken
Go Uptown to the Bronx to boogie-down
And be Strong on the Island, recoup and lay around.
Daddy O buggin.Ra stated he was from L.I.
Rakim lyrics always gave me chills!!!!Like Dam!!!!!Rakim=GOAT
@Jarrel Ely that's funny
Allah Sakuan even on the 18th letter on "guess who's back" he said" "from long island to the Panama canal"
Jarrel Ely honestly I'm not too familiar with big Willy style so biasely I'd have to go wit the 18th letter thou Smith's singles on there tore up the charts
Will Smith sounded like Rakim on Summertime for sure..Nas wrote a few songs on Big Willie Style
Rakim was just so far ahead people still don’t understand. Home town pride is one thing but being the best wherever you’re at in the world is real power.
Don’t forget Krs one he also changed the rap game. Daddy o I’d entitled to his opinion. My greatest Mc all time to me is Krs one
Rakim always said where he was from Daddy O is wrong
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FACTS!!! He never said nuthin but Strong Island, that's how they got on the map.
Facts
@@krazethekingofcontent Listen to Know the Ledge...he does
The Rhyme that I’m stylin smooth as a violin rough enough to take New York from Long Island
Rakim never repped were he was from?
"Planet Earth
Was my place of birth
Born to be the sole controller of the universe."
Isn't that enough?
oof!
✌️
Best answer yet!!!
...additionally he can adapt to Any Environment... when it gets worse.
Mesmerizedbyamy 1 he didn't say Rakim never did. He said Rakim didn't when he first came out. big difference. Edited: my bad I finished listening to the whole thing😀
Damn - I like Daddy-O and Stetsasonic, but he's straight acting like Starscream hating on Megatron in this vid!!!! Rakim would just let his presence be known and he would win a battle with this guy....
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Transformers Megatron GIF from Transformers GIFs
Starscream was always scheming on Megatron. I don't know why Megatron kept forgiving him.
Rakim is just on a much higher spiritual level with his lyrics, delivery and style, it's impossible for people on lower level frequencies to comprehend. Daddy O is insane and delusional if he thinks he is even close to Rakim! Keep followin' the leader dude!
I came to overcome before I'm gone
By showin' and provin' and lettin' knowledge be born
Then after that I'll live forever. You disagree?
You say, "Never?" Then follow me
From century to century, you'll remember me
In history, not a mystery or a memory
Called by nature, mind raised in Asia
Since you was tricked, I had to raise ya
From the cradle to the grave
But remember, you're not a slave
'Cause we were put here to be much more than that
But we couldn't see because our mind was trapped
But I'm here to break away the chains, take away the pains
Remake the brains, rebuild my name
Again, somebody told you, a little knowledge is dangerous
It can't be mixed, diluted, it can't be changed with a
Switch. Here's a lesson if you're guessin', if you're borrowin'
Hurry hurry step right up and keep followin'
The Leader
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Fam daddy was god body became ansar on bushwick & should.be more el li vated but lot are wise but there overstanding is limited because i have heard the god ra on the seventh seal and his overstanding is un match alot of brothers & sisters still need to raise from the dead knowledge has no end especially inform ( body) & outform ( chi = breath)
In ghetto apparel, mind of a Egyptian Pharoah
Far from shallow, thoughts travel like an arrow
Allah's monotony, so far they can't stop me
You know, Ra want property like Mumar Khadafi
More thoughts than Bibles, recital - taught disciples
A sawed off mic, so words scatter like a rifle
Thoughts that's trifle, I'm bustin these for you
Aiyyo, technical difficulties is through - RAKIM
@FiRST_TØ_LETT_A_RHYMME_FLØW_DØWN_THE_NiLE [RAKiM] Rakim Allah
Man listen! Not only did the God state where he was from... He nicknamed it "Strong Island"
Ohhh Gizal around the world people listen to tupac not these wick rappers!!!!
He just trying to come a live agin after decades 😴
@@siyabongabhongoza8201
2Pac introduced a lot of people to Rakim .
Ohhh Gizal true indeed
Chuck D actually nicknamed it Strong Island.
RAKIM IS THE GREATEST MC WITH ALL DUE RESPECT STOP HATING DADDY-O CAUSE AIN'T NOBODY SCREAMING YO NAME IN THE G.O.A.T. CATEGORY
Frederic Ko no Kool Moe Dee created our modern flow and Rakim perfected it. Rakim literally was one of the first real lyricist
How's he dissing? Even I liked Chuck & P.E. over Ra & Eric... As the absolute? I'll go with Mele Mel.
Having your own opinion isn't the same as hating.
BlackGold Soul day it again for the people in the back!
So how can you say he better than Kane
"The only island i was on, was the strong one" -' The R'
RAKIM IS THE BEST!! DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO TO FIGURE THAT OUT
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Over Kane KRS One Cool J kool G Rap. Come on now
He has made some garbage albums though. Let's talk about that.
@@mitchellcumsteen9220 , who is a better lyricist than rakim ??? The albums he made late in his career was not good.. because of production
KURTIS ANDERSON Kool G Rap.
*Daddy-O I see you OG, but Rakim called it STRONG ISLAND!* 😎
Thank you
@@waynewhite4769 👊🏾😎No problem!
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I was about to write that and u did thx.
@@krazethekingofcontent Yes I am. That's how I found this video. 🙌🏾
Him saying, " it ain't where you from, it's where you at... Was a motivational statement.. Meaning don't let your circumstances dictate your destiny. Despite the short coming you can make it...
“And that’s 21 MCs at about the same time”
DaddyO was one those 7 MCs
Your nuts, Rakim is the greatest!! G rap and Kane is up there. Daddy o was never mentioned in that era
Who's daddy o? Lol
Facts! Daddy O thinks that he was better than what he was.He wasn't iconic like that.He was almost on the level of many Brooklyn groups that made a few hits and now he thinks he's is in the class of Rakim Kane, or even Cool G Rap.The body of Stetsasonic work was impactful, but it was just a cut below some of the artist mentioned above.As far as where your at, im from NYC and born there, but i know cats born and raised in Brooklyn but their family/mom and dad moved out to Long Island.Is he talking illegitimacy now because you had no choice.Some cats from LI like LL moved to and raised in Queens.Please i even moved to Brooklyn for a while.Daddy O is a hater and petty.Its mostly by family migration when your young like i said anybody can move anywhere and stay there.This thinking is gang- like.The vibe was in NYC and the culture anyone who wanted it could reach it grab it stay with family, cousins, fathers, all family in and all over NY and get as much culture and touch hip hop like any other.P.S Ultra Magnetic Mc's with Cool Keith repped just as hard if not harder in some peoples minds.
Talkin all that jazz....ironic🤔
Got a new album out, eh? 😒
Super Facts!!!
Didn’t Rakim say “Rough enough to break New York from Long Island” that’s kinda reppin it right?
It wasn't cryptic. I was 10 years old or 11 years old and I knew what he meant.
He meant they could stand on their own
@Dicemoney Da’meen Rakim was talking about the mentality. Where you are "mentally", even though you might be from meek beginnings, the Blackman is still God.
*Strong Island
thank you elevation allah-somebody tell daddy o that-daddy o keeps forgetting that rakim was kicking knowledge and wisdom with his 7 percent learnings when he said that famous line.
Daddy O and Wesley Snipes got to be from the same tribe.
The day walker tribe.they don't look sound or act alike.?wtf are you smoking?
medaswho You’ve got to be smoking something if you can’t see they resemble each other. I said nothing about how he talks and acts.
I was just about to say they resemble each other myself
Oooooooohhhhhh shit!!!!!!!
U right!!!!!! Lol!!!!! 💯😂💯😂
i moses Facts! I had the same thought.
Daddy-O was probably one of the guys who didn't want Rakim on Self-Destruction.
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What's wrong with Daddy O. Rakim repped LI , at least on two songs I know of. Everyone knows where the God MC is from. As far as the new Daddy o, smoking the old Daddy o, that shouldn't be a great challenge. In my opinion the old Daddy O was wack. No disrespect tothe Brother, it's just my opinion.
Rakim must have did something to him because he’s on some hate juice, so now we know who didn’t want him on Self Destruction
I agree
He right about rakim he didnt. But so what? Rakim was universal.
"The only island I was on was the strong one. And if I did my bid it'd be a long one." Pretty clear reference to LI.
You know what separated Rakim from other MC's! Rah was a lyricist, opposed to other rappers being rappers. That man is the
Greatest
Of
All
Time
You can't take that from Rakim bro.
Agreed! Rakim is the Sugar Ray Robinson of Hip Hop! Sugar man is the reason why boxer's box the way they do today! Rakim, is the reason why the greats today are lyricists!
Absolutely freaking luteyly! He slayed them dayum lyrics!!!
Jason Byrd people listen to tupac not these wick rappers!!!
Siyabonga Bhongoza It is clear to see that you are a troll,sit your Toothpick loving ass down ,the men are taking!
at the time he was
Daddy-O ..
You wait until 32 years later to come up with this???
Bruh😒
Every MC told a story on da mic 🎙 ..
Rakim told a story that had you baffled all the way til 2018??? 🤣🤣🤣
#greatestofalltime
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Ayo, that say a lot to how great the line was! Like u said this can be interpreted in a plethora of different ways. Rakim dropped it back then, and bruh just catching up to it....wow
Lee Roddy thank you. P.E, Rakim, & EPMD were the FIRST to rep Strong Island
They didn't have the platform 32 years ago.
Lee Roddy right Daddy O late like Mc Shan
DADDY-O JUST LIED ON THE GOD!!! HERE'S A LINE THAT PROVES IT:
"ROUGH ENOUGH TO BREAK NEW YORK FROM LONG ISLAND" - RAKIM ON THE SONG "MY MELODY" 1986
That doesn't say he's from LI though.
@@randee4550 it does
@@aryavart296 Explain how that says one's from LI for me.
@@randee4550 Here's the easy explanation for you....He's from LI....That's why he wrote the line with "Rough enough to break New York "FROM" Long Island"....He's breaking NY from Long Island...not Staten Island, not Rhode Island, not Fantasy Island... That's how that says one's from Long Island.....
@@billydanzz That's what YOU get out of that. So many places have been incorporated, into MC lyrics, for years. Melle Mel said "from the coast of California, to the shores of Maine", back in 1979. It doesn't mean he's from either place. Its a rhyme.
LL mentioned "Germany, Italy, France, and Japan!" It's not a reference. It's a rhyme.
Rakim made no claims, unlike Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5, claiming to be "Bad! Slick! From The Bronx!" (Showdown 1980), BDP "South Bronx", JVC Force "Long Island", Run DMC "Hollis Crew" etc. Rakim made a reference. Not a claim.
if your from Uptown, Brooklyn- bound,
The Bronx, Queens, or Long Island Sound,
Even other states come right and exact,
It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at
Since you came here, you have to show and prove
And do that dance until it don't move
'Cause all you need is soul self-esteem will release,
The rest is up to you, Rakim will say peace...
I’m a tell u like this RAKIM top 10 songs can go head to head against any of the other greats (Jay-Z, PAC, BIG, NAS, Kendrick, Cole, KRS, Kane, Pun, Prodigy, DMX, Face etc)...
I definitely got mad love for Stetsasonic, but Daddy-O talkin all that Jazz right now 😂😂😂
Kendrick shouldn't even be in the convo
and that's how you incorporate relevancy into a you tube comment. Talkin all that Jazz...great song by the way. I play it almost 3 times a month.
Corey Jones Damn album justifies his status imo
Man, you bumped your had twice.
Facts
Crazy how he completely misunderstood that line.
Yeah he is disappointing to have had even made this video everything he said on this video wrong ! I know you ain't nice cause you ain't understand shit ra said🤔🤔🤔
Right
Exactly One Slick...he took it all out of context, flipped and bounced it into some crazy bs. Smh....damn...
@Tyler Guyton oh and by the way he got a new album titled No Table Cloths..lmao!!
When I first saw this video, I thought Daddy-O was BUGGIN'!! Then months later, I really listened to what he said, and I now understand him. He's not simply coming from a place of hate...it's more like sorrow. He (and many other rap artists from that 86-87 time period) were at the top of their game and then this young kid Rakim came along and singlehandedly rendered that era obsolete. Now, you either followed the leader (pun intended) or got left behind in the "old school". Like Run DMC, Whodini, Fat Boys, etc, Daddy-O and his group couldn't adapt to Rakim's format and therefore their careers came to a screeching halt. I would feel the sorrow too if that was me.
so what you're saying is Daddy O was bitter, I get that, but I feel he took it the wrong way, it wasn't meant as a diss it was positive life advice, Daddy O buggin'
That's a good point. Even Melle Mel said so himself on Vlad that they had to change their WHOLE game when they heard Rakim
Welp there you have it! ❤❤
Rakim is still Relevant...
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ALWAYS
I wouldn't go that far...he is revered definitely...relevant...not so much.
in the crackhouse?? Cause ain't nobody bumping Rakim no more... Knock it off!
Some people don't think Rakim is the greatest. The fact is no one in hiphop ever challanged Rakim as to not being the greatest.
2pac said hell crush rakim
Big Daddy Kane was willing wanting and ready to battle him. And he would have won. But Rakim didnt lie. When he said it ain't were u from its were u at. Meaning dont talk about were u from all day. If u from NYC and u in Los Angles they don't care were u from. U try to talk that outta town shit anywhere over n over. Niggaz from anywhere gone say nigga I hear u. But this is we're u are at. Period
@@therealsyxx I saw a interview with BDK. He mentioned he was ready at a particular location to meet Rakim face to face for a battle. He also mentioned that he called Rakim that day instead he got Eric B. Eric said Rakim wasn't able to make it. My thing is if Kane was ready then he would've responded to Let The Rythm Hit Em regardless. Rakim made it for Kane. Kane never responded to that track.
@@stonestanza Pac stole some of Rakim concepts. Who you think started the 7 theory?. Pac never came at Rakim or mentioned him on records. Pac did that tribute to the oldschool. On Me Against The World album. So he payed homage to most of the 80's hiphop. My thing is we can talk Kane & what 2pac said but no one tested Rakim. They all knew including Kane. As dope as Kane was ,& he was basically untouchable for a short while. Kane knew what could possibly happen if he battled Rakim. Even Eric Sermon admitted that he didn't want any parts of Rakim.
@@oldschoolhiphop2275 All facts and Pac could never come close to Rakim . Even Eminem wants no parts of Rakim on any level bar for Bar Rakim is the greatest of all time
In his second single "My Melody" Rakim clearly reps Long Island. Daddy-O knock it off with this revisionists history. I'm from that era and everyone was clear where Rakim came from
eddie jamie fact
eddie jamie it wasn't clear where Rakim came from because ppl always saw him with notorious dudes from Brooklyn
@@MrWARBUCKS24 i can see that, but i never saw any confusion...
The melody that I’m stylin /smooth as a Violin/ rough enough to break NY from Long Island - My Melody. That’s just one of many times he mention where he from how do people not remember this. 🤦♂️
MrWARBUCKS24 facts, I thought he was from Brooklyn for a long time.
I started listening to hip hop in 1984 and was deep into it by 1987. I bought "On Fire" and "In Full Gear" when they came out, and love them to this day., same with all of Eric B. & Rakim's early stuff. I remember listening to all the greats of hip hop's "golden age" and thinking at the time that it was special and different. Even back then though, I knew that Rakim was on another level. His writing, wordplay, and flow were better than anybody else. No disrespect to the other greats of that era, including Daddy O. Put it this way, I don't know if you can really drop the mic and say that Rakim was the greatest of his generation, but who was better? Who can you legit put ahead of him on the list? Nobody.
There Should be a law you can not dis the god mc rakim..
MILAN FERNANDEZ This nigga bugging. He knows Rakim is the greatest.....He probably speaking from some personal shit he got against Takin. First he said Rakim not the greatest. And then he said he's a liar. Come on calling him a liar....Yeah that's personal
MILAN FERNANDEZ he preceded rakim I'm the game age wise they may be peers and he is his OG in the game.
Only BDK (Big Daddy Kane) can diss Rakim. Till this day Kane still says Ra couldn't fuck with him in a interview he did awhile back. Lol
@@NemesisEnforcer4937 Kane wanted no parts of rakim."Let the rhythm hit em" plus on the street side I doubt he wanted issues back then.
@@everydaydre1185 Daddy o is clearly hating,would like to know who he thought was better in that era,and overall.too bad the follow up questions wasn't asked
No disrespect to The legend Daddy O, but Rakim is not only the greatest MC ever he is also easily the most influential MC ever to be birthed on planet earth. Thats why I feel Daddy O completely missed the point of what Rakim meant when he said "It ain't where you're from it's where you're at In the Ghetto." That line is about not where you're at physically but mentally in the Ghetto. It's about elevating yourself not just physically passed the Ghetto but mentally beyond the Ghetto.
You are absolutely correct...
Elvin Solano agreed!
Elvin Solano, U hit the nail on the head brother! I was saying the same thing as I was watching this video. And Daddy O is cool... but he definitely missed that point!
Stetsasonic should have their own Unsung episode, since I've always felt they were big-time underrated, and rarely seem to be name-checked when it comes to talking about classic '80s rappers. Loved "Talking All That Jazz" by them. Big Daddy actually looks like he hasn't aged since their heyday, even with the little grey hair he got, lol.
EXACTLYYYYYYYY!
"Rough enough to break New York from Long Island" - Rakim - My Melody. Rakim told people from the gate that he was from Long Island.
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that's just a sly metaphor. anyone can say that line. he didn;t say repping long island or anything. rakim was not always confident about being from long island. its a fact, you could hear it from the way he talked. daddy o is right here.
I really enjoyed watching this interview. It was nice to see Daddy O still around doin' his thing, and lookin' healthy! I think he dropped a lot of knowledge, but I do agree with all of you that expressed that perhaps he took that line out of context. I'm sure most of you are aware that we live in a racist/prejudiced/judgmental world. People are denied opportunities, looked down upon, exploited, and worse, based on color, where they are from, social class, etc., etc. This was a very powerful line for me as well! I saw it beyond a matter of geographical location. What it said to me was that no matter what life circumstances/situations, etc., you come from you have to rise above it, keep your 'ish moving forward, and that's what really matters!
Daddy telling lies on rakim he sounds like low key jealous
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Yep
Please. Daddy O is a legendary B boy. I saw the six turntables back in the day. I have mad respect for RAKIM. For those of us old enough to remember. The skill, the finesse of the early pioneers. Daddy O doesn’t need to lie. You had to know NYC. It takes a lot to be the king of NYC. Many wore the crown.
Long Island. That’s not on the same level as the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens(which extends into Long Island!). Money making Manhattan. In Hip Hop history.
Exactly..A little jealous fool who thinks he's still relevant
Daddy-O and Stetsasonic were a commercial sounding Novelty
act and never of any great skill level. He wish he was Rakim
Rakim’s complex word play and being able to rap to the speed of 110 bpm change the game Kane , G Rap, even Melle Mel , Caz and Kool Moe Dee Would try to do what he was doing. They all made records at the the speed of 110 after Rakim did it . When your peers copy you that’s one thing but when the pioneers are trying to what your doing that’s another different level which in fact makes you the greatest !!!!!!!!!!!! Rakim is the greatest !!!
Actually, KANE was 1st with that fast style of rhyme.
The good mc is the greatest
KeysdaGod actually look moe dee had the fast style of rhyme first
MrWARBUCKS24 right I thought it was Kool Moe Dee then Kane
KeysdaGod thank you! Ra kinda followed Kane. People overlook that.
This dude must be tripping... rakim, de la soul, public enemy, epmd... the list goes on. Rakim was the first rapper to ever mention Long Island on a track in the 80s.
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De La = garbage with that Baby Phat
Biz Markie
He sure is tripping during that time Long Island had the best M c's and they are still all the best M c's who's messing with Long Island everybody came to Long Island. All roads lead to Long Island
Public Enemy did mention Long Island in the track "Rebel without a pause" which came out as a single record in the very same month July 87 as like as Eric B & Rakim´s album Paid in Full.(on the B side was "Sophisticated Bitch" from their first album "Yo Bum rush the show" which came out few months earlier in the same year)
I´m a time witness and bought both brand new released records = the Public Enemy single "Rebel without a pause" + Eric B &Rakim´s album "Paid in full" on the very same day in July 87.
The Long Island reference is in the 3rd verse and is going like this:
Strong Island, where I got them whylin´
That´s the reason they claiming that I´m violent
Never silent, no dope, getting dumb - Nope
Claiming where we get our rhythm from
Number one, we hit ya and we´re give ya some
And by the way just to put the record straight here in every detail PE were the very first who referenced Long Island as "Strong Island" in a track while Rakim´s line in Check out the melody is refering to Long Island as Long Island.
RA had the best punch lines and beats!!!! His cadence and delivery was impeccable!!! The inflection of his voice even though it was capped or sounded muffled you could still hear every word he was saying.....!!
Daddy-O no disrespect but he a LIE...RAKIM said in records he from Long Island aka STRONG ISLAND!!! And once again no diss to the OG but RAKIM will kill Daddy-O easy no debate!!! Now let's get to RAKIM saying "Its Not Where You From Its Where You At"...Rakim didnt mean literally he meant mentally it's all about growth so this further shows the advancement in Rakim lyrical content compared to his peers in his prime & Daddy-O just showed his hand that he still havent caught that line 30 years later smh lol!!!
I'm glad you caught that..
Not only that bro but also literally go to LA popping that I'm from Brooklyn noise (or vice versa) and watch how fast you get lit up. Therefore, "it ain't where you from it's where you at"
What other factors Rakim doesnt hit that he isnt the GOAT??? smh lol this is pure comedy lol to try to promote his 35 year later new record smh lol!!!
He smokin dust and poppin Adderall, daddy o nic but he aint dat nice, he tryna get his rating boosted, let me listen to his new shit and judge him even tho i should not bee
💯percent... All about your state of mind... He took the the surface of the bars and made it simple.. The R was deep..
Perhaps Rakim was just trying to appeal to all places, cities, towns, etc. And that he did.
I think Daddy O misinterpreted the line. We all thought Rakim meant “mentally “ where ya at.
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Perfectly said...
I was a teenager when I heard the line. That's how I understood it. I came fr a lousy suburb town and when I moved to the City, I had to represent with skills. Breaking and DJ skills.
That’s definitely what I thought he ment (mentally). And lines like that, to me, was what made Rakim a great lyricist.
It’s not where you from, it’s where you at. Is deeper than your “place” Rakim was rapping and teachings culture. It means you might have been in jail, on drugs, a stripp etc but you can now be Conscious, Positive and active in the Struggle. ❤
Facts
Completely Disagree!!!!!!! I was just listening to the song You Know I Got Soul by Eric B And Rakim: The Line was "Now if you're from Uptown, or Brooklyn Bound, The Bronx, Queens or Long Island Sound, even other States come right and exact (It ain't where you from, it's where you're at)"!! This single line grew what the establishment thought was a fad, into the most supreme and politically conscious genre of musical art ever; Rap Music. It gave license to that of Naughty By Nature, The Geto Boys, NWA, The Big Tymers, TI, Scarface, Missy Elliot, Will Smith. Snoop, Dre, Tupac, Mad Skillz, Pharell, Kanye, Eminem, Timbaland, Pusha T. Too Short, Digital Underground, Mach-10, E-40, Eightball and MJG, Outkast, Da Brat, and many, many more. Old thinkers like Daddy-O wanted rap to be a New York thing only. But The Fiend of the Rhyme, had a prophesy, and provision to grow this thing to plateaus previously unimagined, and heights previously inconceivable.
Perfectly put. Nuff said!!!
Daddy-O is an ol' head regionalist. He made a big deal of Rakim not mentioning Long Island in his first rhymes because he's from that "we from Brooklyn, we hard!" school. Rakim was bigger than that; he repped LI and opened it up for "other states come right & exact" and let the WHOLE world know "it ain't where you, it's where you at". Daddy-O tries to be slick saying he's about the other regions beyond NYC but his statement fails him when shades LI and Ra. It's all good.
I concur! It gave those of us not from NYC the stamp to do what we loved, because of NYC. If Rakim Allah could show respect to all those with skills, regardless of their location, it bridged that gap and then brought us closer.
@@reimourrpower9357 you said it!!! This cat Daddy O trippin!!! Smh
I take 7 MC's put em in a line
And add 7 more brothas who think they can rhyme
Well, it'll take 7 more before I go for mine
And that's 21 MC's ate up at the same time
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its not where u from its where u at was an inner statement...meaning who u are within and what u doin with yourself and within your life.
hasani07 good point. We could be from the hood or from a gated community its all about where the mind frame is at the PRESENT time that will determine where we going involving future endeavors.
Exactly, he was talking about ones state of mind
I agree 200%
Fact
You right, he was talking not about physical location, but a mental location..
The line following that line explains it.
"Since you came here you have to show and prove"
Meaning, it don't matter WHERE you came from but when you step up to that mic, turntables, breaking etc. you have to SHOW AND PROVE...
Being from New York doesn't automatically mean you're a BEAST on that mic and saying where you from gets no pass either, show and PROVE it.
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I’m not hating on Daddy O for his comments, as they don’t seem to come from animosity. We just strongly disagree. I’ve just never heard an MC with a mastery of language and rhyme and rhythm and hyperbole as Rakim. Not even 30 plus years later. My friends and I would rewind his tapes back 10 and 15 times just to hear one of his lines. It took that many times to piece those thoughts together and digest the words. He was super cool and smooth on the delivery, when everyone else yelled and swung arms around and looked angry. Ra never blew his cool in an interview or on a recording, etc. Who the greatest is will always be left to personal opinion, but I would never speak (as Daddy O seems to have) as though Rakim wasn’t one of, if not the best ever.
Nas, black thought, Lupe fiasco, MF DOOM, Pharoahe Monch, Kool g rap >
Exactly
Yessir J Slater! The R is the Greatest Lyrical architect of all times!!! You said it right!!!
@@gullybop1695 Elzhi >>>>
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30 yrs later still ignorant.
Lol😂😂😂😂
Lmao!
Rakim top ten , Daddy O , not even in the top 100 !
I mean, I liked Stet back in the day...all of 'em. But, who in the hell is Daddy-O to undermine Ra's legitimacy? Is this dude for real? Tell another joke, bruh.
All the songs theyve probably done and I only know him from "Self Destruction" very dope and I was born in 79. 😂😂
@@garagegorilla5x5 , case-in-point. But, I bet you can name several hits by Eric B. & Rakim. Why, because this is what all the greats do; they stamp your brain. By the way, "Sally" was a killer hit by Stetsasonic. Props to all my 70's babies. We still in here. AAAIIIGGGHHHTTT!!!😀✌🏾
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@@nowwhat6861 😂
Just my humble opinion Rakim gets that title because he was the first one to break away from the old school cadence flow and took flow to a new modern flow…that was game breaking back then …just my opinion 🤷♂️ #Dopeness
"Rough enough to break New York from long island"- my melody.smdh!!!
Sounds like he repped LI.... the God MC also repped on "The R"
That’s a lyric....not repping a place. Wu repped a place...
@@OrondeBranch half the Wu are from Brooklyn
Jay Johnson only ODB, GZA & Masta Killah are from BK
@@bxboro4662 RZA, U-God & Raekwon were born in Brooklyn
Rakim said where he was from in My Melody. ( The melody that I'm stylin, smooth as a violin
Rough enough to break New York from Long Island)There it is check the lyrics Daddy-O DON'T KNOW...
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rakim shouted long island on my melody his 2nd single
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No he didn't, he MENTIONED it in passing.
DADDY O SOUNDS LIKE HE SOLD OUT BECAUSE CLEARLY HE DON'T LISTEN AND OVERSTAND RAKIM STRONG ISLAND AND RAKIM WAS TALKING ABOUT A MENTAL STATE NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION DADDY O LOST MY RESPECT
Daddy-O is talkin about something totally different from what Rakim was rapping about. He's comparing apples to oranges -- it's not the same.
So why didn't he say this in 1990 when Rakim said the line instead of waiting 30 years to say it?
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Rakim mentioned Long Island on "My Melody" on Paid in Full
Daddy O just lost my respect...... The God shouted out strong island every album..... the hate juice is strong with him. Lol
SUPER FACTS!!!
True
Yeah yo....that's what IAM sitting here thinking. Rah always shouted out Strong Island!!! Dabby -O buggin
THAT PART! Daddy O is tripping or ignoring the truth
@@cyberlox2ndgig462 - Word!.."Strong Island!..Is where I got em Wil-din'!"
"The only Island I was on is the strong one and if I did a bid I would be a long one" -- Rakim So he did say he was from Long Island in a song Daddy O. Just FYI.
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Yeah thats it right there, " Set'm straight"
It aint where you from it's where you at. It was based on the mindset of an individual. This lyrics dealt with GROWTH. Where I am now mentally is NOT where I am NOW. Understand the context of the song. Just my thoughts that differ from my good brother Daddy O. Respect.
My problem with he's take is: 1 the record was called "I know you got soul" a party record. Meant for everyone. 2 if you look at the lyrics he says i wanna see which posse can dance the best. He first shouts out all of N.Y. long island included. 3 then he says "even other states come right and exact, it aint where you from its where u at". Talking about at a party.
One of the reasons he is beloved by so many, texas cali, Florida...is after he shouted out his city he shouted out everywhere. (With one rhyme).
Bullseye. Nuff said.
On point response. You nailed it sir!
Somehow please let Daddy O read kain 0012 comment...love Stetsa Sonic but DaddyO missed the whole thing and he's old school?...SMH
Yeah you on point with this. That record was a party call not a rep record. Thats why they usually open live shows with that track. Even now that they are touring again its usually 1st or 2nd on set list. Gets the crowd hyped. Move the crowd was another record like this.
"It's not where your from, it's where ya at" is from the song "In The Ghetto". The line is about uplifting yourself beyond your physical surrondings. Come on Daddy-O
He siad it in i got soul to
It actually came from i know you got soul on the first album and ra reworked it into the brige of the ghetto!
This is exactly how I have always interpreted that line. Rakim always rhymed using double entendres. On the surface it seemed like he was talking strictly about hip hop culture (battling weak MCs) but the alternate meaning was a message of uplifting the oppressed (that is practically all of his songs but I reference Follow the Leader as an example). When I hear that line in both "I Know You Got Soul" and In The Ghetto" I take it to mean that regardless of what poor circumstance you may come from your mentality and understanding of yourself will take you where you want to be life. It had nothing to do with something as petty as not representing Long Island. Daddy-O, I am just SMH. You know the God is deeper than that.
amoonpoint agreed wholeheartedly.
1djdamn Valid point. Daddy-O probably was talking about "I know you got soul". But even if you take the line from there AND interpret it literally, Ra mentions 4 of the Boroughs & LONG ISLAND 2 lines before saying "it ain't wherr your from....".
I'm fine with Daddy-O not thinking Rakim is the GOAT. That's a matter of opinion. But his points....I dunno man.
Rakim already told us, "The only island I'm from is the Strong one!"
What a joke. Nobody comes close to Rakim, without a doubt the greatest mic controller who ever lived. Rarely if ever cursed, rarely if ever put down women, and rarely if ever promoted violence, yet everyone stops and listens to him spit with mad respect because he not only demands your attention, but he teaches and makes you think; "I came to overcome and then I'm gone", and he did just that.
1000%%!!!!!!
Word is bond.
Funny thing he didn't say who he thought was the g o a t. I believe he is secretly or passive aggressively beefing because of the burroughs thing. But that's just me. I wonder if Ra will respond.
@Kicker Ass I feel ya. But I'm sensing he's thinking some cat that few if any of us would put on our list. Some underground cat that no one heard of or someone from back in the day that we slept on and will continue to sleep on.
Krs1 nobody wanted it with him. NOBODY
Hmm....I guess this argument is all fine and dandy....but stetsasonic was neverrrrrrrrrrr listened to in my circles, yawn. Yet Rakim never goes out of style for me.
Young Black Anomaly yeah, not sure what these dudes are talking about. From Philly, and Stets was played and they were dope. We're they on Rakim's level? Nah! But, they were dope though. Dudes in hear acting like they were some poobutts.
As for him saying Rakim told a lie in his like about "where ya from its where ya at", he repped his hood. But, he was letting dudes know just because he from strong island, he will still bust a dudes ass from.Boogie down, or Brooklyn. And, RAKIM DID, with the exception of KRS haha
BooredFemme - The Roots are the ‘modern day’ version of Stetsasonic. When The Roots first came out, the same amount of people that listened to them.... also listened to Stetsasonic back in their heyday too. Over the years, The Roots name just got way more popular than Stetsasonic’s ever did. But trust, lots of people listened to Stetsasonic. They had music videos & got spins on the Radio-n all that.
Homeboys need to check the emotions at the door. They feel who they like or listened to is that dude. I'm about to start some shit.
It's like Tupac. his lyrical games wasn't up to snuff. It was the shit around him, and bruthas get blinded by that and say "he the best rapper" and shit like that. Hmmmm HELL NAH. making "Thuggin" popular on the crossover doesn't make you one of the best MC. True enough, he may be one of the most influential, but on the straight MC tip, NAH.
Homeboys who grew up during the MCing days, NOT the rapper days, know the difference. Tupac could rap, but his flow was basic to me. Very basic.
@@Keepdapocket - Lots of people consider Tupac 'one of the best' because of 'the vast amount' of lyrics he wrote in a short timeframe. His work ethic was ridiculous. Tupac was writing like 5 albums worth of raps at a time when it took most emcees a whole year just to write 1 single album. Seriously. Don't forget, Tupac was the very first (solo) hip-hop artist to ever drop a double-album ("All Eyez On Me"). He changed the whole rap game when he did that. And he was the very first (solo) hip-hop artist to have 2 different albums debut at #1 on the Billboard Charts in the very same year. (In 1996, "All Eyez On Me" and "Makaveli" both debuted at #1 on Billboard).
Think about how much WORK that actually takes.... especially when Tupac was writing his own (full-length) albums... PLUS penning countless 'features' on other people's tracks... PLUS doing some ghostwriting for his own clique (The Outlawz)... PLUS filming movies. Rehearsing lines. Making TV appearances. Doing Interviews. AND doing Shows. AND going on Tour. And making music videos. And Fighting court cases. ALL at the same time.
Don't forget, Tupac died and still had even more material that had never been released. They were still dropping Tupac albums... years after he died.
Roger Black hmm valid points, however, you're forgetting ONE major thing. By the time Pac came out in the game rapped crossed over. So those #1 album sales are by white kids is Des Moines, Iowa. Rakim didn't have that chance. Kane didn't have that chance. KRS One didn't have that chance. Why? Because they came from the purest era of hip hop. No radio play other than black stations. MTV had to dedicate a segment for rap only (YO! MTV raps). So, again, to judge off sales and charts? That's null.and void because whites got a hold of rap by then.
As for the work Pac out in? Sure, he wrote a lot of songs. Hell, Prince wrote and album damn near every four months. But, tell me this. Why is it the great MC don't mention Pac in the great list? You hear about Rakim, Kane, KRS, even Kool Moe Dee, as far as the MC. Why? Because they were pure
Pack benefited from being fake because the times promoted that. YEAH I SAID IT. FAKE!!!! If you have an open mind it's CLEAR. Pack was no damn gangsta. He wasn't a thug. Hell, he was even a damn stick up/snatch kid. He was a "performing arts" kid. A conscious kid. He wasn't a street kid by any stretch of the means. Yet, bruthas (and sistas) fell for the BS of this hit em up type shit? Really? Who was he hitting up? Some white kid in his drama class? Nah, the 90's glorified this "gangsta rap" mentality because WHITE KIDS loved it. So sales were inflated vastly. More airplay both radio and TV. You never heard Rakim and those likes on any white radio, have you? Hell nah, because they were from the pure age before it crossed over.
Hell, at least biggie rapped on his real shit. He sold. He hustled. So, to me, being in my mid 40's, being dead smack from the birth of hip hop, it was about being real. So, I look at an MC from a different perspective. Give me real, not sales!!!!!
If you take what Rakim said literally you might agree with Daddy-O’s view, but Rakim’s lyrics always transcended the obvious meanings that listeners were used to from emcees & rappers. I always took it that “It ain’t where you’re from, it’s where you’re at”... IN LIFE!! Like, no matter what your past is, you can determine what your present and future. Just because you were born and raised In The Ghetto doesn’t mean that you have to be STUCK in the ghetto... mentally or physically. Raking always promoted ideas and philosophies of mind elevation!
Melle Mel dropped true poetry. Love his rhymes.
When your works of art brought into being
All that the ghetto stopped you from seeing
Bums on the sidewalk, garbage in the street
Abandoned buildings, bricks of concrete
The ladies on the corner are sellin that body
And everybody wants a part in that party
I'm hangin' out tough rockin' late at night
Runnin' wild in the town of the neon lights
You either play some ball or stand in the hall
Huh, you gotta make somethin' out of nothin' at all
I'm sittin' in the classroom learnin' the rules
And it says you can't do graffiti in school
That can't be wrong in the hallowed hall
So my notebook turned into a big wall
Rakim was one for metaphors. "It ain't where you from,it's where your at" could very easily be a metaphor. Also shouting out where your from wasn't a big deal for all MC's For many of us growing up listening to rap,it was enough to know Rakim reps NY. No further discussion is necessary
He's talking all that JAZZ.
Hating ass OG. He outta be ashamed of himself. Does he not kno the hip hop unwritten law is to NEVER say anything that can be taken negative about the GOD Rakim or KRS -1 !!!!! Rakim always repped Strong lsland.
My Melody 1986 (His second song B side to Eric B for President"
"The melody that I'm stylin, smooth as a violin
Rough enough to break New York from Long Island"
Daddy O suffers from what a lot people suffer from when they listen to GOATS. The lyrics go over their heads and complete jealousy.
Well said, bro. Say it again!
@jliveslife KRS........POETRY!!
you said a mouth full my G...how dare he
Mrs One Said Some Bullshyt Tho!!!
F AL that’s what I’m sayin FAL takin been reppin and holding it down! Still does
Rakim really mean even though u from the ghetto u can still make it. That's it.
Or if u ain't from the Ghetto...Winedance is Middleclass.
RAKIM....THE G.O.A.T.
That 7 MCs line was hard, but what made it even harder was on a different album he said "Stand up freeze..Or you'll be one of those 7 MCs". He had the intelligence to reference a bar on an entirely different album.......GENIUS!
The song was "I ain't no joke"
nowadays, David Banner and Daddy-O look the same
They do look alike, I had to take a double take
I thought he was David Banner, when I saw him in the thumbnail. LoL!
I am a Stet fan and a Daddio fan . However , I disagree with him about the famous line , "it aint where you from , its where you at " . New York was (is) the mecca of hip hop , so when I heard that line , I took it to mean that where Im from was included and embraced in hip hop . That line made me feel apart of what was being birthed backed then when other places didnt have a voice . But I definitely respect Daddios opinion
I'm FROM NY and I took it the exact same way.
EXACTLY