1960 Oliver OC46 Crawler - Building and Installing Transmission, Clutches, Final Drives - Part 4
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video we finally start assembling the Oliver OC46 Crawler. We reseal and assemble the reverser, transmission, steering clutches, and final drives.
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With all the sealants, loctite, permatex, silicone etc. you use I really appreciate that you give an explanation of the proper application for each.
That said, I don't think I'm alone when I wish you'd rate them for taste.
that's a VGG job...
Unfortunately in my 45 years on the wrenches, I have managed to have more then on surprise taste test.
Don't think I would recommend any of them as condiments. But I will say this.
The 515 is a little too sweet for my taste.
@@wornoutwrench8128 I like the 515 just fine. But then, I've always been more of a sweets guy. My absolute favourite though is Shimano Anti-Seize paste. Beautiful stuff. Just the right balance of everything, and its ability to coat everything perfectly is second-to-none. It's the perfect accompaniment really.
Wes, it amazes me how you can look at any piece of equipment and have some kind of idea how to fix it and some kind of idea how to put it back together and seal it. I know you're a machinist/mechanic but your general equipment knowledge and patience are off the charts.
I try. The service manual is pretty detailed.
Smart guy was my mentor at work was amazing. He shrugged 🤷♂️ I have the good books and read em. If I asked for help he would come over and throw a book in front of me. Then he would say, call me after you take the cellophane off this. Then he would walk away. Answer? It’s in the book. 😏
Like any piece of tech, when all else fails, Read The Manual.
Well this has cheered my Monday up. Cheers Wes and Mrs Wes.
me too!
Really cool project, the amount of knowledge you have about anything amazes me every time. Thanks for the update Wes!
I appreciate that!
Amen.
And, . . . you’re not that old. I’m guessing that you haven’t worked on many 60 year old machines. You must do a lot of reading.
Your wife is WAY cool👍 Better treat her like a queen mister!😊
If your wife don't like your hobbies you probably should find a new one otherwise it will turn into an argument
Wes you remind me of me. I've worked on every thing from race cars, excavators, surgical implants and the space shuttle. People ask me where I learned to do all this I just reply that I'm too dumb to know what I can't do. Great videos and keep it up. Looking forward to the next one.
Same here
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Am I mad or is this an incredibly complicated way to propel a machine? Do modern machines use boxes and drives this complex or is everything just hydraulic motors and pumps now? Is there a benefit to a physical drive like this?
This system is more efficient than hydraulics. It is complicated, but not much more than any other machine of this type.
Cameo from the state workers changing the reflectors in the road in preparation for getting completely paved over.
Wrong. Preparing for the snow plow.
You're such a young guy to have such all-encompassing knowledge and experience. My hat off to you.
His dad is a mechanical genius and Wes looks, listens and utilises all he has learned over the years. It's a pleasure watching him work.
Great work on all your videos! When you are setting up the bearing "C" value with the shims, once you have the desired stack up you can throw the cover in the lathe and machine the face and shoulder in 1 setup to the desired length. No more shims! This way you don't need to worry about the silicone between all the shims.
I don't understand a thing of what you do. That makes this channel interesting. Combination of wrenching and teaching the viewers is top notch :)
I was waiting for the Oliver to come back!!
Better late than never I guess!
Good news on the compressor. I’ll go a long way for one that makes air easily. Once I made my own suction offloader with a brass gate tap and an air ram :o)
this is just like the dynahoe....an all out resurrection!
One of those “simple fixes” that turns into a complete overhaul.
I hear that. Nowhere to stop on this old equipment!
Self immolation works for me. 🔥
Old man Cotter is rolling in his grave calling his pins “spilt”pins. Geez. 😂
I have always known the pins in bicycle pedals as Cotter Pins. They have an angled bevel so as you tighten the nut, it draws the bevel against the flat on the crank and fixes the pedal to the crank. Split Pins are as their name suggests
@@tutekohe1361 Same here. You'd know when the cotter pin needed to be re tightened when you felt movement in the pedal crank...
Rgds from S Africa
I love this thing! And I'm a John Deere guy. You are the reigning king of patience. Thanks for taking me along. Regards from Indiana.
"Hotdog down the hallway?" Pamela Anderson came to mind when you said that, Wes.
I guess that might depend on the hot dog?
I remember hearing that joke on family guy back in the day
Hotdog down the hallway is not fun for either. I had to laugh when he said it 😂
dang! dirty boy...
I can’t imagine the amount of time you have in just sourcing parts and reading assembly manuals. Interesting videos and thanks for all your hard work putting the together.
3 years later. Now I comment on watching you work. I have a medical professional back round. Spent time in the military. We had to fix our equipment in the field, with limited tools and time. What we did have plenty of was people with knowledge of various mechanical disciplines and talents. When you lacerated your finger in episode1, I could dress your wound. When you explained the steering clutch mechanism, I could follow your instructions. When you worked on your compressor, I related it to the heart, pressure and wiring. I was an instructor for the Army's Cardiovascular Technologist course for 7 years. I admire your work ethic and your sense of humor when faced with challenges. I like the PUP on guard for any unauthorized personnel that may be scurrying around your AO (Area of Operations) You have a great family and many supporters out in the world. God bless and keep up the great work and content. Peace from West Texas.
GL4 is used in millions of manual transmissions with brass/bronze synchronizers... People who say that GL4 isn't safe for yellow metals are morons. GL5 may have some issues due to the use of Sulphur anti-wear/gall additives. GL5-MT1 is yellow metal safe.
YESSSSS! Back to Oliver.
"Please sir, can I have some more?"
Admit it, you would have used the same pun.
Is that a Dickens pun?
@@WatchWesWork you are a very knowledgeable man, Wes.
That coupling for the Small stub drive shaft Reminds Me of a Double Cardone Joint on a 4x4 3rd gen 4runner Drive shaft has 2 U joints stacked next to each other for articulation @Watch Wes Work
New video. Best way to start my morning ☕️
Enjoy!
The service manual was written by a German, anything not called out was Gutentight!
What exactly was this Oliver Crawler Used For Is for a specific Farming job? Just curious @Watch Wes Work
Thanks for getting back to this project. I really enjoy these older machines being resurrected. Keep up the great work.
have you seen any lord muck vids??? if not worth a look.
Id recommend lord muck vids to.
Lmfao. "Let's go and torque this down to factory spec., CLICK."
Eric O. uses the same torque wrench. 😉
Wow, it no longer looks like just a pile of random rusty junk on the floor. You have managed to make all those random parts begin to look like a whole machine. I don't know why I find this compelling but I do. It will end up working better than it has in a long time. Cheers
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....I failed 30 students!! Cause thay don't know how to compete....I hope she ment she failed them academically!!!! That just makes me laff!!!
She really takes it personally!
what button do I click for multiple likes.... this deserves at least 10 clicks
I’ve been waiting for this video. I enjoyed the first one.
Glad to hear it!
Man that is some work right there. Hats off to you for taking on something that like. Great video though keep em coming
What better to do first thing in the morning with my coffee?!
Oh no, you took the shields off the wrong side of those bearings. Now it will never work. LOL
I wasn't going to say anything, but,,,,,,,,,
Could you rotate the balls 180° to compensate?. Lol.
So now that you have established yourself as "the guy" who rebuilds antique Oliver crawlers do you intend to put this first or second on your business cards and other advertising for your business? I can see it now, a never ending supply of machine lined up that just need "a little work" outside on you driveway awaiting your touch. Your wife will be able to retire on the proceeds from this, no doubt, highly profitable new direction for your business. Just think of the hours of totally enjoyable and rewarding days ahead.
That might not be a good path forward.
I always am impressed with your skills, decision making, everything you would want to know about gear oil, and different types of locktite applications. The most amazing thing is that OC 46 WAS BUILT BEFORE YOU WERE BORN, and You have limited information available and No OEM parts. I AM SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 2 MORE SEGMENTS WITH THE LAST BEING THE LOADER INSTALLATION..
I want to see You actually load a single axel Gravel Truck. You could not possibly have a customer who wants to pay You for all the time You put into that machine. Your time and shop time has got to be $1000 per day for based on 8 hours. You have more than 2weeks and were proficient.
I hope You just keep the machine for Yourself. That OC 46 LOADER like that is special to Me because I had the thrill of operating at 26 years of age. Thank You Wes for the good memories.
Someone ran a detergent oil in that compressor at some point.
Could be. I don't know. I think it sat for a very long time at some point before I got it.
@@WatchWesWork I'm with Steve on this one. That sounds dead on detergent oil effects. Had nearly the same thing on my compressor which was a war surplus. Low hours, some bloke got it before me, and made a mess of it. Took me a while to figure out the issue.
Engineer at Quincy told me that their brand oil was a 20 weight non-detergent. I bought a 55 gallon drum for what 6 gallons of "brand" oil would cost. Mobil DTE-Light. Turned out to be the right oil for our air tools.
The label on the side, which I think might be typoed, references a 'sunoil 9100'. Maybe it meant Sunoco 9100 turbine oil which is non-detergent mineral oil. Doesn't mean someone threw something else in there. Unsure if that oil would even be the correct application for this.
Some people work with their eyes close or can't read. Everyone assumes that people can read.
Someone to go see alcohol anonymous someone going to have an osteoporosis someone going to need a kidney
Understood some seals have teflon based surfaces and should not be greased. And initial spin would mate the surfaces between shaft and seal.
I've never seen that. Maybe in high RPM applications.
Great progress! And interesting stuff too, proper shimming, measuring preload and backlash, rolling torque, etc.. Lots of stuff that is good to know for other sorts of projects.
I've been waiting for this one and now I have coffee and watching another man work. Love ur vids homie!
Wes, it amazes me how you can look at any piece of equipment and have some kind of idea how to fix it and some kind of idea how to put it back together and seal it. I know you're a machinist/mechanic but your general equipment knowledge and patience are off the charts.
Ah yes, the 18/16ths slip joint axle nut socket. A rare and illusive tool.
Try Ingersol rand all season select compressor oil. It works well with cast iron compressor and it doesn’t sludge up. We have a couple 3 cylinder t30 at work that run 12 hrs a day and I only change the oil once a year. The oil is still super clean when It comes out.
I run a synthetic compressor oil, but I forget the brand. Mystik maybe.
I just love this channel. The twists and turns to get things done, the answers as to why and how to get things done, and the stubborn persistence to make things as right as they can be. I like these kind of projects the most. Not something you see everyday. Nice job getting this thing back together. Thanks for making this available. Nice amount of dog. Poor wife looked cold. Winter is coming fast. I big cast iron thumbs up.
That owner has a great commitment to get the old machine good and working again.
It is good for future generations to know how things used to work.
A big job. Honor to both you and the owner.
The string :o) I had forgotten about the string ^-^ And the inch/pounds value, but the shaft is an odd size, so you do the math based on radius and then give up and guess a value.
Yeah, it's a PITA!
I'm not bothered by the fact that you weren't able to finish the crawler in this video, that just means there will be more content to watch later. :)
i bet recording really helps when putting back together when you take apart and then work on months later. really enjoy your videos
I suppose it could. I didn't look at the old video until I was editing this one...
Thanks to modern technology in camera and storage, I bet some UA-cam started from their self-reminding videos
First DIY youtube video in the mechanic range was a guy who took apart his engine. He posted that video, later on it got reposted as a music video time lapse montage. The first one is long gone, which is a bit of a shame, but the second one is still up, i think it's something like engine disassembly montage, has classic music, i think the flight of the bumblebee if i'm not mistaken.
Recording would probably help me now. In my younger days, it could be months and the gift of memory still could tell how to reassemble something. Now, take it apart today and challenged to remember details tomorrow. Such is this life, I guess. Thank you Wes for the continuation of this project. Neat to see it getting put back to functional again.
I recorded replacing my 1991 corolla head gasket twin cam I was in over my head but finished its running good. worth it to record
Atleast the final drives are re installed nice work @Watch Wes Work
Wes, really appreciate this series. Hope the community appreciates what a great mechanic they have in their midst. Keep living the dream. Btw. Another great Wisconsin brewery is Ale Asylum. Give them a try if you can find their products down there in the Flatlands.
Thanks, will do!
Never fails with older equipment that it takes 2-3 times longer than expected.......
You working on the floor reminded me of the Pakistani truck channel, but you got concrete floor, they don’t. 😁
Wowsers that's a lot of work, now one can understand why when a big machine breaks in the field it is just abandoned. Kudos to you Wes don't give up great video, thumbs up.
Yes. Not worth fixing.
Wes, it's not just Illinois. Here is California, we seem to have the epitome of stupid. They are always fixing what isn't broken but go right past what is desperately in need of fixing.
My grandpa was a mechanic called Shorty lived till he was 92 you remind me of him in your knowledge of all things mechanical well done sir we appreciate your videos and the time you take to share thank you
I had a drink every time he said 515, thang got or autocratic, ar my speling wood be horrible.
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Hey Wes, I can attest to certain oils eating yellow metals. I believe it's EP oils that contain active sulfur if I'm not mistaken. Last place I worked had a bunch of gear shaping equipment where the cutting oil was also the lubricating oil for the helical guides, which were bronze. A few of the second hand machines we got were eaten alive by whatever oil they were running and we had to replace the guides. Finding guides for Sykes gear shapers is crazy difficult. We had to make sure to run an oil that would not eat the guides and Allegheny Petroleum makes an Altracut lubricant that is dual purpose lubricant and cutting oil with no active sulfur that won't eat yellow metals. Ran it for years with no ill effects. Somewhere I have pictures of the guides that were all ate up. It was impressive looking.
Interesting. That's a costly mistake.
I have spent my entire life using diagonal cutters to remove cotter/split pins. What exactly do those gurus suggest that we should be using? I did used to sell a cotter pin puller but it would require hooking the eye of the cotter pin and overpowering it to remove the pin. And in the process a person would probably end up with some sort of injury from doing that. So, give me the controlled leverage of diagonal pliers any time.
As my friend who worked DOT used to say: "We can't fix the potholes, they're the only thing holding the road together."
Lot of work, Wes. Good job. The torque spec channel locks are a must have in any toolbox.
Right! Need big ones and small ones!
If Wes called me , I'd damn sure call him back .
I was having withdraw symptoms waiting on a new video, welcome back !👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
A great & very interesting video Wes, love to see old stuff brought back to life...
Good old illinois waste money on things they don't need to do good to see a fellow illinoisian posting good content
Man, a shame I don't live there, I'd pressurewash and repaint the whole machine for you while it was in bits!
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy approved ! that was good info Wes
a had stroke you have me feeling better 2 years now.. thands Wes
Nothing more interesting than restoring old machinery. You make it look easy.
Alright...! Finally, I can tell all my friends that I have a tool just like what Wes has, and that is a "channel-lock" nut torque tool... Course the click sound does not sound like Wes's.
Great video Wes, love the tedious explaining that you do on those various areas. Despite this piece of equipments age, and minimalist qualities, you show us that there are some intimate intricacies about it... Looking forward to part 5.
Thank you sir.
Right on!
Absolutely have to agree with you that partner Dot United States government have gone slapped to shit sorry for the word absolute honesty thanks for the vids man your FRIEND AND BIGGEST FAN
NORTH GEORGIA MIKE GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS GOD BLESS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
OK I'm 69 years old and hearing a woman say "I've already gone through a six pack and I need more" STILL makes me light headed. Thanks!
Oh, I disagree on the LocTite 620 bearing retainer. That's stuff has worked countless times for me, permanently. Worst problem I've had is getting stuff back apart afterwards. Prepare to break out the torch.
I had heard the gl5 wasn’t safe for yellow metals and the gl4 was ok for them. At least that’s what the internet told me on the Jeep forums for my 79 transmission, I believe that trans called for gl4 though. But I have been fooled before. I could only find the gl4 at NAPA and that was 10 years ago so everything might have changed by now. Replacing the reflectors on a bad road is like fixing the a/c on a car with not brakes. Seems like you have a lot of time in this machine Is it worth all this time?
Yeah, GL-5 is what I should have said.
@Watch Wes Work Have you thought about getting an Ingersoll Rand two stage air compressor or a single stage is much cheaper but pretty good
I like this Quincy.
@@WatchWesWork true it has character
I WAS WATCHING A GUY OUT OF NORTHERN CALI DOING I THINK ABOUT THE SAME THING YOU DO. ONLY HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY "SIDE PROJECTS" FOR YOU TUBE. I HAD TO QUIT BECAUSE THE CHANNEL WAS STARTING TO BECOME A DIATRIBE OF NEGATIVITY, (IMO), I REALLY ENJOY THIS/YOUR CONTENT YOU SEEM LIKE A VERY WISE MEKINIK KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND THANK YOU FOR THE "STUFF". THIS IS THE GUYS CHANNEL I MENTIONED EARLIER-------------------> "western truck and tractor repair"
Nice job on putting Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Regarding the GL1 vs GL4 gearoil issue. I once had to replace a manual transmission on a early 90s Toyota Hilux, because someone filled it with 80w-90 GL5. When the service manual specifies GL4. The GL5 ate up the bronze bushings. It was a Toyota Dealer who made the mistake Actually. They provided us with a replacement gearbox tho.
Dear Me. Wes.
👍👌👏 Simply fantastic, extremely well done again! Congrats. I'm even more impressed because, good grief, I wouldn't have the patience for that crawler. The owner seems to love his little Oliver very much to let put in such an amount of effort. I really don't want to know about the costs. But who will put a price tag on a love!? 😁
Anyway: I can hardly wait to watch the next part.
Thanks a lot for making teaching recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all of.
Hey Wes, I like how you never give up on a piece of equipment. Too often we just chuck a broken piece of machinery or a tool and waste our money on a new one when the old one could have been repaired. Thanks for your work!
What, you don't have safety wire pliers? Pssht.
Holy crap, that 'u-joint' needs a cover to the operator safe.
Damn, NOBODY uses threaded studs to guide on gasketed covers!
Hi Wes and Mrs Wes, great stuff Wes, oh ! the boots again awesome.
A lower gear set would of been nicer than that reverser. Besides, you had both two transmissions you could mix and match to get a full set of gearing in good condition, including the poor quality reverse gear on the donor transmission. Since being too fast was an issue.
EDIT: Also, the GL-4/5 were only corrosive above 250 degrees, which wasn't common (since melting your drive train is usually frowned upon), but now you can get MT-1 GL 4/5, that is not corrosive under the entire temp range.
🤣🤣 Had the thing since Christ was a cowboy!!! 🤣🤣🤣 LMFAO. Love your work !!!
Previously on the OC
Lmao
Great videos , love your explanations on the different gear boxes and functions .
I've spent alot of time around agricultural communities here in Saskatchewan Canada and I can relate to the craziness of harvest you speak of Wes. Grid roads become dangerous too. It's almost as crazy as a "Bangladeshi ship wrecking yard."
Wes, this video was an unexpected pleasure to see today, your knowledge of these machines leaves others in the shade. I’m looking forward to the job being completed and seeing the Oliver tested..My regards to Mrs Wes and Your self.
Thank you.
Happy to see using a SWISS ARMY POCKET KNIFE! :-)) Greetings from Switzerland and a Happy New Year!
A good video, even spanning all that time.
I definitely hear you on the craziness of harvest time. Been though corn harvest in Indiana; and cotton harvesting time in Texas (which was even crazier before they vacuumed the cotton or had rapid boll that would be "ripe" at a predictable time). Good Job!
Grampa Frank rant: You are not stupid! Your ability is well above a "wrench puller". An extra moment to diagnose the correct solution does not make you stupid. Please quit being so hard on yourself. BTW, another great vid, as usual. :)
I have seen damage by using the wrong gearoil. Old classic Peugeot cars use a bronze worm drive rear end and those *must* (!) use plant based (ricinus) gear oil, if you use normal mineral oil you'll destroy those bronze gears.
Motul makes a GearV Ricin SAE90 oil.
Old steamfitter trick: Coat both sides of gasket material w/oil, let it soak in 15-30 min's, lay material flat on part, use a small ball peen & tap around edges & bolt holes. Voila: New gasket & no razor blade required.
Oh My God. SPILT PIN. I don't believe it. A cotter pin holds (or used to) a bike crank pedal on. A split pin is used to secure nuts, etc.. Not all 'nuts' of course - unless you'r a robot maybe.
Yes! I love projects inside projects! Haha, "like a hot dog in a hallway"...hehe, that one always makes me giggle like a 12yr old boy. 😂🤣😂
Oh those sump screens. I thought I had made the worlds worst purchase on a "low hour" JD 4400 HST. First time I used it for an hour I lost ground drive and lift hydraulics. After a white knuckle ride back to the shop I found the sump screen covered in goo. Clean screen and change oil. Trouble free for the next 6 years.
Our streets are quite literally crumbling, so what does the city do? Paint the crumbles with "STOP" lettering and limit lines. That's some good governance...NOT!
515 is like Franks Red Hot, I put that stuff on everything.
Hello Wes! I’m from a tiny island in the Caribbean Sea called Puerto Rico an USA territory! I love your work! I have learned a lot watching you working! Thanks!!
Been hanging for this video, love your vids man, Thank you for the access to your knowledge that you have provided, a genius at his trade
Wes you are the man that can,I have watched most of your vlogs,I picked your channel up from unstoppable Morgan and her house on wheels (Bronco)
Love watching your vlogs keep up the good content,train your son early in life and you will have some one to pass the business on too.
The sarcasm is really funny.We are watching this from Yorkshire,England.And your wife is cute too
Probably more expensive, but better when assembling parts that do NOT have very close tolerances - Pertamtex The Right Stuff. Better than plain old RTV.