Getting a (Really Bad) UNIMOG 411 - Will it even start?

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2024

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  • @jeremytoms5163
    @jeremytoms5163 Місяць тому +12

    Same age as me, same condition as well - knackered 😂

  • @Spike9803
    @Spike9803 Місяць тому +8

    Nice try to get this rust bucket going. Unimogs facinate me. I came really close to buying one many years ago, they're a strong, rugged military vehicle. The deciding factor for the purchase was I didn't have a use for the thing. Apparently neither did the former owner of this Unimog. I would like to see how they go together however.

  • @1967250s
    @1967250s Місяць тому +9

    Awesome! A great project. Can't wait.

  • @RayBecker
    @RayBecker Місяць тому +2

    I love being able to watch a young person rescue a military vehicle. Maybe you could locate a few sponsors to help with the cost of restoring that 411. Even though the frame looks beat, it could be pulled back in to shape. It would be a ton of work but I think it might be worthwhile. Just for the uniqueness of that vehicle alone.

  • @vod8008
    @vod8008 Місяць тому +7

    Time is always an issue but with your skills, restoring the little 411 wouldn't be too difficult. It would be interesting content, for sure!

  • @erik_dk842
    @erik_dk842 Місяць тому +4

    I went to Brødeskov Kaserne sometime in the early 1990's to look at all the stuff being auctioned off. There were 5 or six Unimog's there, along with Merlin engine blocks, crates with 100's of tire irons, cage pallets with typewriters and a BMW R65 G/S motorcycle, that looked like it had been run over by a tank.

  • @fujiuser1968
    @fujiuser1968 Місяць тому +15

    Very nice find,I would love to see you get it running..1 thing though,why did you not engage the PTO and try turning the front output shaft to try to move the gears enough to find neutral (with a tensioned strap on the gear lever),all the room for leverage you could ever need. Looking forward to seeing the progress on this 🙂

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому +9

      Hah, i actually did try exactely that, right after the bit where i showed i could engage the PTO.
      But i messed up with my camera. so i only had a little bit of that footage. And it turned out it didn't make any differance anyway, so i just left it out of the video :)

    • @bluecollarcanuck
      @bluecollarcanuck Місяць тому +1

      @@KJOff-Road Maybe do a collab with Mr. Hewes down in the UK. He's done some wonderful stuff getting old tanks running.

  • @Subgunman
    @Subgunman Місяць тому +1

    You need a sheet metal specialist to take detailed measurements of the cab. These early vehicles were very basic with little curved surfaces. This allowed MB to create a bunch of stamped sections and then either weld or bolt them together to create the cab. Yes remove the upper frame for the top and windshield. Protect that registration plate that is under the hood. You can transfer that to a hand made new cab. I am confident that engine will eventually start with some cleanup and TLC. Since that is a very common engine those parts will all be available as long as the block has not cracked from freezing. It would be a shame to let it rot out or use it for parts.

  • @Martin-oo2rz
    @Martin-oo2rz Місяць тому +4

    If the AWD isn't permanent, maybe brake loose the rear brakes and bring force into the gearbox by turning the axle. But putting it in N won't be the fix in this case. Unfortunately. Interested in seeing more of this little mog. Thanks for sharing!

  • @wetcoast1247
    @wetcoast1247 Місяць тому +2

    Can't wait to see you go pickup another rusty Unimog with a restored Unimog

  • @DanieHattingh
    @DanieHattingh Місяць тому +3

    It probably sounds silly, but those old Unimogs are my dream ride. If I won the Lotto, I'd have a seriously modded 70's Datsun and a Unimog.

  • @klocknerdeutz
    @klocknerdeutz 11 днів тому +1

    Great video man, extremely entertaining stuff!

  • @guerrillaradio9953
    @guerrillaradio9953 Місяць тому +2

    From the condition of the valvetrain, I think you're right. The chances of the engine being okay are fairly good! The clutch....lol. Did you look at the transmission, transfer case, or axles? The wheels did seem to spin, however little, as you shoved it inside. New flywheel, clutch, new bearings in the transmission and transfer case possibly, and it could be a great firewood truck! Agree on the cab not surviving being lifted. Really cool little old truck. I hope you give it some love!

  • @TheYamakasi007
    @TheYamakasi007 Місяць тому +11

    I love when this unimog are driving again. Please don't scrap it. Slowly you can make it.

    • @airplanemaniacgaming7877
      @airplanemaniacgaming7877 Місяць тому +1

      he said himself it would take _another Unimog worth of parts_ to get it back up and running again. If there's a Unimog out there with the parts needed for this thing that isnt running, that one should be fixed instead of this one.

  • @oukie666
    @oukie666 Місяць тому +5

    The Ford didn't even bat an eye at lifting that 411, but
    to my ears the forklift sounded like it was working hard.

  • @chrisrawle2967
    @chrisrawle2967 Місяць тому +4

    I really hope you get the paperwork sorted for the truck

  • @InMateTheRebel
    @InMateTheRebel Місяць тому +1

    Love the content KJ, keep up the good work 👍🏻

  • @colinmcmillan2642
    @colinmcmillan2642 Місяць тому +11

    Well done on even getting it in the garage! I think this one has "money pit" written all over it Kasper - you should sell all those apples to raise some funds!

  • @Mike-Honcho-
    @Mike-Honcho- Місяць тому +3

    That trailer looks like an American snowmobile trailer. The guy should have paid you to take that Unimog.

  • @ralphnorris-vk8ff
    @ralphnorris-vk8ff Місяць тому +2

    That looks like the one I had back in the mid 60s! Mine was a 401 and I was told there was only 2 of the 401s shipped to the US!

  • @adamturner8634
    @adamturner8634 Місяць тому +1

    I love these old Mercedes trucks I had a 79 1117 with an om352 but the cab was rotted away so we put the engine and transmission in a 2000 Chevy c6500

  • @lt9413
    @lt9413 Місяць тому +6

    Hi bro,
    Interesting 411
    Would love to see you restore it

    • @lku421
      @lku421 25 днів тому

      Wel better someone else. This one needs to be restore to its original condition and not some cheap restomod like his 421.

  • @phillipbalch3371
    @phillipbalch3371 Місяць тому +2

    Please make a series restoring the 411. I bought a dona cab to rebuild mine plus Mogparts are good. Need tips to finish it.

  • @DailyDriverGarage
    @DailyDriverGarage Місяць тому +2

    IVE ALWAYS WANTED ONE OF THOSE UNIVERSAL MOGS

  • @billholemo2518
    @billholemo2518 Місяць тому +1

    I admire you're determination 😅😅😅

  • @justinanderson1727
    @justinanderson1727 Місяць тому +1

    Don't stop.
    Continue

  • @humbucker0076
    @humbucker0076 Місяць тому +2

    That's what one would call a basket case.
    You could buy a brand new reproduction cab for a 421, but its expensive - about 15.000€ I think.
    If your red 421 still has the F gearbox and the OM621 engine you could also mix and match parts. The engine fits into the 411s i think. Maybe a 411 cab would fit on the 421 (I've seen it the other way round).
    But it would be a Sisyphean task.
    There are currently some other rough Unimogs at auction at VDI auctions in the Netherlands. The 411s are also gone, not as far as yours, but still gone. However, there is also a 404 up for auction, old fire engine (seems to be original French or Belgian) that served as a mechanic/service truck afterwards. From the pictures it seemed nice. But I guess you don't need another Mog right now. It could have been a nice service rig/transporter, especially if you convert it to lng/cng. But you've got the Magirus now.

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому +1

      That was actually my thought. that if nothing usefull comes of this, the parts from it could possibly be merged with the red 421. to make at least one complet truck :)

    • @humbucker0076
      @humbucker0076 Місяць тому

      @@KJOff-Road if anything you'll never run out of front probs ever again

  • @danielpls9401
    @danielpls9401 Місяць тому +4

    In next video: "do you remember how I said I need another 411 for parts? I'm getting into my Hummer because I still can't use the Magirus and collecting my new 411 for parts" 🤣

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому +2

      Filming that, as we speak. 😂

  • @jamestregler1584
    @jamestregler1584 Місяць тому +1

    Yes I can smell the UNIMOG all the way down in old New Orleans 😎 !

    • @bluecollarcanuck
      @bluecollarcanuck Місяць тому

      Yeah, I've noticed that old trucks like that have the same smell as old farm equipment. It's sort of like a combination of aging plastic and "warm" metal.

  • @mikestewart2409
    @mikestewart2409 Місяць тому +1

    Great find 👍

  • @sigmafastener
    @sigmafastener Місяць тому +2

    Come on KJ, I really want to see you work on that 411.

  • @albertomenendezsuarez9297
    @albertomenendezsuarez9297 Місяць тому +2

    Personalmente me gustaría ver la gran restauración del pequeño Unimog, aunque entiendo que puede que sea inviable dado el lamentable estado de ese vehículo.
    Yo prefiero que consigas un donante para ese pequeñín que usarlo a él como donante.
    Gracias por compartirlo, un saludo.

  • @lku421
    @lku421 25 днів тому

    The pieces that are hard to find are there. The metal work and for example the soft top are all new available. You can restore this easily. You don't need a donor. But if you do keep it original with original parts!

  • @pabloamorim8689
    @pabloamorim8689 Місяць тому

    La forma más fácil de acceder a todo es retirar la cabina, son 4 tornillos, luego lubricar la cabeza de los pistones con una mezcla de líquido de freno, queroseno y aceite fina dejar unos días y probar de girar el motor. La caja de cambios tiene una placa arriba que hace los movimientos de los cambios que queda sin aceite por eso no se mueven las palancas, da mucho trabajo pero es satisfactorio al andar

  • @peterwarner8541
    @peterwarner8541 Місяць тому

    Agreed. Save your sanity, time and money and scrap it for parts.

  • @ebre3080
    @ebre3080 Місяць тому

    You could lift up the back and twist the backaxle to take the tork out of the transmission.
    Just an idea.

  • @carloslobo7224
    @carloslobo7224 Місяць тому +1

    Vacina do tétano em dia!!!!! Energia positiva. Abraço.

  • @carlthor91
    @carlthor91 Місяць тому +1

    You found a multi, multi, multi, generational mouse nest. Rebuild project number???
    Best wishes from Northern Canada.

  • @GrubeChannel
    @GrubeChannel Місяць тому

    1963 is quite easy because you have already the new axle, similar to that one in your 421 but they aren’t the same 100% do pay attention in buying spare parts. 1963 they changed to the new axle

  • @deez8202
    @deez8202 Місяць тому

    Honestly dude If you've got steel plates, a perfect weldingworkshop, great welding equipment, ventilation and fire safety then this seem like an easy thing to fix really since there are many spots that you have access to.

  • @rickywhite7578
    @rickywhite7578 Місяць тому

    Rock the vehicle back and forward to free up the shift and maybe free up the engine as well

  • @phoenixsmith6026
    @phoenixsmith6026 Місяць тому +1

    good try my friend but it looks like a whole body off and split.. good luck

  • @The_Irish_Volunteer
    @The_Irish_Volunteer Місяць тому

    I love old trucks and I have one myself. In the UK 'they' are doing their best to drive us all off the roads literally. We are suffering here in all respects. Not sure if we will be able to keep classic vehicles on the roads at all the way we are going. Old diesels are the Devil in carnate here. Don't know what it's like over there but don't let them do it to you.

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому

      Well, unfortunately, it's just as bad, If not worse over here.

  • @stuartstephens
    @stuartstephens Місяць тому +1

    It looks like the body is mostly made from flat panels, so you could probably make a new one from scratch.

  • @freaky6521
    @freaky6521 Місяць тому +1

    Hey mate, I have heard that the 406 & 411 diffs are different to the 404?
    I've noticed a clear difference in design between the two however I was also told the rear diff on the 406 & 411's is centered instead of offset. Is this correct? or is it still offset from the center?
    Cheers!

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому

      Well, most of what you heard is correct :)
      Foot these older unimogs, there are mainly 2 types of axles.
      A One-peice axle that, on the surface, looks a lot like most regular truck axles.
      And then a 3 peice axle. That is made up of several sections bolted together.
      (But both types come in several different variants)
      The 404 has the "Older" one-peice axle. while the 406 has the "Never" 3 peice axle.
      And the 411 actually had both. The early models had an axle simmilar to the 404, while the later model had an axle simmilar to the 406.
      However, all of them use the same transmissions, and therfor they are all off-set in pretty much the same way.
      The front is off-centered quite a bit. while the rear is only a little bit off-center

  • @wetcoast1247
    @wetcoast1247 Місяць тому +2

    401s are real mogs too!

  • @miroslavUnimog
    @miroslavUnimog Місяць тому +1

    👍

  • @rienkhoek4169
    @rienkhoek4169 Місяць тому

    Weld a rather long amd sturdy bar to across a wheel and have yourself and a buddie on the other site have a jumping competition. :)

  • @FrederickHopkins-xb6me
    @FrederickHopkins-xb6me Місяць тому

    A local farmer took me for a ride in/on one in 1975 when I lived in Greece for the summer.

  • @julien39140
    @julien39140 Місяць тому

    I would be really curious to see the engine out and the real state of it, from the outside, it does not look that bad

  • @amunarjoh
    @amunarjoh Місяць тому

    I would really like to see the engine out, and see what´s hiding inside...

  • @fishaussie9112
    @fishaussie9112 Місяць тому +1

    🇳🇿fix up the cab to make it road worthy

  • @MrMrthemonkeyman
    @MrMrthemonkeyman Місяць тому +1

    Did i hear chassis swap for the jimny?........

  • @guesswhotoo6
    @guesswhotoo6 Місяць тому +1

    lol. We can’t have a UniMog vacuum, can we!

  • @nextechsolutions5955
    @nextechsolutions5955 Місяць тому +1

    Can you still get body panels for the UniMog 411 or what?!?

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому +1

      For some reason, you can get every single panel. for these.
      Even an entire, complete, new cab.

  • @craigk5452
    @craigk5452 Місяць тому

    Cab does not look too complicated. Make another one.

  • @asbjrnkvisle5831
    @asbjrnkvisle5831 Місяць тому

    Go Ford!!!

  • @rickywhite7578
    @rickywhite7578 Місяць тому

    How are you able to legally drive a humvee on the public roads.

  • @carlossantiagocanomarin2395
    @carlossantiagocanomarin2395 Місяць тому

    try to save this beautiful machine regards

  • @FrederickHopkins-xb6me
    @FrederickHopkins-xb6me Місяць тому

    You never know, one day a cab may come your way.

  • @RalphIvanDelaTonga
    @RalphIvanDelaTonga Місяць тому

    Interesting

  • @chrisrhodes5464
    @chrisrhodes5464 Місяць тому +1

    Can you pull an axle shaft out

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому

      Well, you could, yeah. but it's also quite a big job, as you will have to disassemble the portal gears on the axle, as well.

  • @jasonwhite1244
    @jasonwhite1244 Місяць тому

    Personally I would have drained the oil to check for water.

  • @markrutlidge5427
    @markrutlidge5427 Місяць тому

    Don't worry it will buff out.😅😅

  • @KB-ou5vj
    @KB-ou5vj Місяць тому +2

    You need the two rockets from the container for your gardennice Project

  • @jordanwenger440
    @jordanwenger440 Місяць тому

    If you honestly decide to part this out, let me know and I would get some stuff from it.

  • @len.unimog.416
    @len.unimog.416 Місяць тому

    You just keeps on suprsisin us, thanks

  • @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
    @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 Місяць тому

    They just find you don't they?

  • @paulrobberts1527
    @paulrobberts1527 Місяць тому

    Would give my front teeth for a mog

  • @Rasputin-p4e
    @Rasputin-p4e Місяць тому

    Jenning MS he can turn that over.

  • @TheDistur
    @TheDistur Місяць тому

    I'd cut everything off and put a tractor seat on it. If it will run that is.

  • @LanDaiLyLife
    @LanDaiLyLife Місяць тому

    Hello❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

  • @larcoal2963
    @larcoal2963 Місяць тому +1

    Trash to treasure

  • @pinzgauernorcal
    @pinzgauernorcal Місяць тому

    thats too bad its allot worse than it looked

  • @darylelder1352
    @darylelder1352 Місяць тому

    Yikes

  • @TheBRMueller
    @TheBRMueller Місяць тому

    I hope you didn't pay much for it.

  • @u.s.1974
    @u.s.1974 Місяць тому

    Why don't we see you using any rust remover or penetrant?

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому

      Well, this simple awnser is that i had run out, when i was doing this.
      Besides, for somthing this bad, it won't really make a differance anyway :)

    • @u.s.1974
      @u.s.1974 Місяць тому

      @@KJOff-Road O.K. I was just wondering cause usually that is the first thing I use on rusted bolts.

  • @michaellynskey7124
    @michaellynskey7124 Місяць тому

    You need to do something with the camera it’s virtually impossible to see anything you are doing 🇬🇧🇮🇪.

  • @Chr.U.Cas1622
    @Chr.U.Cas1622 Місяць тому +2

    Sir, this time I really don't get it. Of course you can do what you want and it's your channel. But you recently gave away an extremely rare Unimog because you needed to downsize and wouldn't have time to restore it anyway. Now you've nevertheless bought a wreck of a 411 with the very tiny cabin. Not even a normal size guy without any overweight fits into this thing. Therefore it's quite unpleasant to drive. The famous and usually bulletproof OM 636 has at max 34 hp in these vehicles but can be powered up to 45 hp. Nevertheless the gearbox etc. doesn't allow a decent speed. My main point is, as already mentioned: It's no fun to drive in this way too small cabin. One can't even enter the seat without being a kind of contortionist. So why did you buy this Unimog wreck? You do not even have an Unimog ready to use as a towing vehicle.
    Nevertheless: Thanks a lot for making explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
    Best regards, luck, health and wisdom.

    • @KJOff-Road
      @KJOff-Road  Місяць тому +4

      Haha. well. no one ever bought a Unimog, for it's speed and comfort :)
      But at the end of the day, I simply got it because it was really cheap, and the spare parts alone, will make up for the purchase :)

    • @lt9413
      @lt9413 Місяць тому +1

      Comfort isn't a consideration
      Unimog 411 is the coolest of the lot

  • @ZaphodBeeblebrox-ry5zs
    @ZaphodBeeblebrox-ry5zs Місяць тому

    👍