Just buy 240hz monitor, the difference is quite noticeable in comparing to 120hz. I have one and don't regret buying it even though it is tn panel. Tn panels are also typically brighter than ips, but it depends on the exact model.
@@dimacherepovskyi8600 No just don't, 240Hz isn't worth it unless money isn't your concern at all, It's the last thing you want in your setup. 144Hz is more than enough, and the step up from 144hz to 240 isn't noticeable, at least from my experience, but the price jump is quite big.
Maybe you are from another galaxy. I dont see any big difference between 60-120 fps. There is a very small difference but its mostly noticable in ONLY a few videogames. Its because some games are not designed "very well" and low fps can make them feel less responsive to your input and make things feel a little bit sluggish. Like Team fortress 2. You can notice a difference with higher FPS in the responsiveness of your inputs and things seem to go a little bit "faster"
@@dieselgeezer18 more than half people with 120hz who don't see the difference didn't activate on settings(120Hz monitors dont have it enabled out of the box)
The bulk of that difference though is going from 60 to 90 that's like 90% of the difference in feel. And from 90fps to 120, yeah, the difference is there but nowhere near as big. And from 120 and above it's pretty difficult to tell, just accuracy for fast reaction shots goes up, but visually barely anything changes.
It's very difficult for even the best GPU's around at the moment to push out that many frames where if you drop down to 1080P it's really easy to render that many frames per second
@Malachai Carter that’s your personal experience. I cannot, and I mean cannot, play a FPS game at 100 FPS anymore with my 144hz monitor. It feels like shit.
@@AgentSmith911 You say you "need" high fps for football. I say i "need" high fps for everything. It's just nicer to watch/play and easier on the eyes.
Exceptionally well done for a sponsored video. Being that Techquickie is technical explanations, I was really worried how tainted the content might be when sponsored. Really, really well done to keep the sponsorship out of the content and put it at the end. Exactly what I would expect from you guys. Keep being awesome.
I personally have a 27” 2560x1440 144Hz monitor, and I never plan on upgrading any further unless these things get cheaper eventually. It looks crystal clear to me, and like the video says, the better you get, the less noticeable the changes become.
@@robertmile I don't even remember when i made my comment but oh well, I'm still using 60hz and i don't need more considering 60fps is more than enough for me(especially since i grew up with a laptop that barely got 20fps on most games)
@@hoshikunai On Github there is this fps unlocker for roblox. Use it at your own risk though because people have been getting warnings and bans but the creator tries to bypass the detector.
My experience about seeing the difference: 30-60fps: clear as the sky in a sunny day 60-120fps: yes, still clearly see even in the desktop 120-240fps: well ... only if you know, what to see and where...
@@edfort5704 That's what I told. If you know what to see :) E.g.: Half-Life 2 train station fences, when you strafe in front of them. Or just simply move your mouse in circles when you have a pointer.
Yep, one thing I don't agree with what linus said was like try before you buy, the problem is sometimes you don't realise how bad the 60hz monitor is until you've actually used 120 or 144 monitor for like a month
I have a 144hz monitor. And i see the difference if battlefield for example drops to 95. But 110fps is eneugh for me to not really notice the difference anymore
My laptop has 144 Hertz screen, and my main desktop I plug into it is 75 Hertz at 3440 X 1440. And I personally prefer the higher resolution 10-bit IPS screen over my higher refresh rate laptop screen. I'm had it for 3, almost 4 years now, and I'm very excited to see higher refresh rates being available for these ultra-wides without having to sacrifice the color accuracy bit depth or resolution.
@Ilham Ramadan That doesn't really explain why it's faster on mobile than PC. But yes, exclusive fullscreen mode in windows behaves differently than a mobile, it dedicates all the graphics resources to one application, it's slow in a game because theres a lot of resources being used which has to be swapped out when you switch between windows/desktop and the game, also when you alt+tab back in, the game has to figure out how to recover from suddenly losing access to the graphics driver. A phone just doesn't do that, everything is sharing the same resources at all times, just as if you had everything in windows or borderless windows on PC.
That’s just windows. There are things you can change to make it faster. There’s a focus setting somewhere on windows 10 that if disabled speeds it up tremendously. Gaming on Linux I switch back and forth almost instantly.
Just 4 years ago, we struggled with the idea of high refresh rate, low response time, color accurate, HDR capable monitors. But in just 4 years, we’ve far surpassed it and pushing it even further. If there’s one thing I can appreciate of the dystopian future we live in, it’s this.
I mean the whole 24fps for your eyes thing is so easy to debunk. How the hell are you seeing the difference in 30 and 60 fps if your eyes only perceive 24? Exactly XD
@@WildRandomVideos-wo3xe Because they use motion blur. Motion blur captured by a camera is not the motion blur you see in games. Cameras see real motion blur like your eyes see, games use artificial motion blur. It's with this motion blur that the 24fps in movies looks smooth
you're not missing much. the more frames you get the harder it is to tell. 60fps is good enough for most applications and most people. i bought a 240hz monitor and it was complete overkill. i can't get newer games to run past 90fps on highest settings anyway.
@@lowkey276 Cheer up. All those features will be coming in the same monitor in the next few years at more affordable prices than the current $2,000 monitors with them :)
Hey Linus as a physiologist I can clear up that 24hz myth. Each neuron in the eye is paired with a dark counterpart that both are connected to a Rod or Cone light sensitive cell then to a bipolar set of cells that fire an impulse to either the dark or light neuron. this ratio of how many light to dark impulses as well as where the set of neurons innervate to in the visual cortex determines the picture and how bright and what color things are. This process takes time for the signal to build up by individual photons hitting enough rhodopsin to close enough ion gates in the rod/cone cell to allow for repolarization and then transduce a signal to be modified in the bipolar cells that then modify the pattern of firing to the neurons then the signal has to reach the visual cortex and be processed. Yes this takes an estimated 70 milliseconds and that's where these frame rate estimates get pulled from but this is happening individually across millions of rods and cone cells so each one is processing visual data. This is a simplified version but you can get the point, the eye acts like the opposite of a screen where each rod is like a pixel but instead of the CPU telling the pixel to shine light the "pixel" or light sensitive cell gives information to the "cpu" the brain. Just each pixel acts independently with a network of pathways within the CPU to produce and image.
@@ravenwrack So true. My hp spectre x360 has an amazing screen...except ive been spoiled by my gaming monitor at 2k/144hz. Everything is extremely smooth at 144hz!
Capacitors will likely be starting to go >< they only last so long. Your monitor will take longer to turn on and warm up that will be the first signs just fyi
60 vs 144 Hz is extremely noticeable. Even if you're not a gamer! I've used a 144 Hz for a long time, then I bought a new cable for it, which defaulted my Hz to 60. I didn't realize what happened at first, but I could SWEAR something was off. I kept telling my friends that everything on my PC felt sluggish like it was lagging. Even the mouse cursor on my desktop looked like it lagged; it felt unprecise and almost left this weird trail behind it. It took me an hour and several rounds of laggy frustration in PUBG before I even thought of checking the Hz setting. It was such a relief seeing that it was set to 60 Hz, that I wasn't going crazy. It's that noticeable. Even in Windows when browsing files or the internet. You can 100% tell by how your mouse cursor looks. Then imagine the difference in a fast-paced fps game... I really want a 4K monitor, but I can NEVER go back to 60 Hz again, so I'll stick with my 1080p 144hz monitor for a while longer.
I'm pushing over 240fps in most e-sport games on low settings just fine on my GTX 1060 3gb and i7-2600k @4.8ghz. Picked up a 1080p 240hz monitor (ironically the exact same LG monitor mentioned in the video) for 185 euros (~$200 us) in an outlet store, best deal ever.
ZarT dirty Ultra Extreme High Pro Gamer peasant I use a Quintilian Life essence screen in my eyeballs with 5 trillionHz to play fortpie HA idk what I just said but XD
just overclocked my 60hz to 70hz and it is great, i love it, i spent over 10 mins just moving tabs around as it felt way smoother, if an extra 10hz is that good, i can't imagine how good 300hz would be
i switched to a higher refresh rate display(120hz) a year back.... And mannn going back to 60hz is painfully slow, can definitely notice the difference!
I actually think there is a bigger difference going from 60 FPS to 75 FPS (which is the monitor I am using right now) than going from 75 FPS to 110 - 120 FPS (playing on a friend's 144 Hz monitor). I feel like the bulk of the gains are from each incremental frame you get from 60 FPS up to 80 FPS or maybe 90 FPS and then you hit rapidly diminishing returns after that.
@Techquickie You completely forgot to discuss response rate! refresh rate is great and all, but the speed of the monitor responding to your inputs, is super important in the Esports Realm. My friend was I'm struggling very hard on his fighting games, until he bought a 1ms monitor. this should be a perfect subject for your next video.
High refresh > everything. Totally changed my build goals when I got a 144hz monitor - everything looks insanely better at 90+ fps on one at the minimum.
@@brian21118 i use aorus ad27qd , i just want to ask do you guys who have 165hz monitor see many mouse pointers when you move the mouse pointer across the screen at 165 hz on monitor
@@movzfastRdzen I will assume you mean 150hz, it will help but like Linus said, if you cant get frames beyond that it won't do much good. If you have 15hz of course it is
@@movzfast I used to have a 60hz monitor, and now have a 75hz monitor but I don't see much of a difference, and overclocking ur monitor can harm it so there's no need to
I hate where we're at with monitors. I can tell the difference between 144hz and 240hz. I have a 27" 240hz monitor, but I wish it was a bit bigger and also 1440p. I'd also like a large ultrawide that's 160hz, 1440p, and not a VA panel.
I think 2k is the sweet spot for performance while having a great amount of graphic fidelity at the same time. But if I had a 2080ti or something then I'd want a 4k 144hz 👀
I tested a couple 300€-550€ gaming monitors for my self around January 2019 and I had some rather odd results: There was a lot of shenanigans with monitor features, enabling one thing could disable another. So if both is on the box, doesn't mean that you get both. One panel I tested had freesync forcefully enabled with a vega card (couldn't be turned off) -> but when enabled, low latency mode was forcefully disabled (couldn't be turned on). So you had no low latency mode and even if you could, you would never have free sync. "Enhancing" Features like different kinds of blur reduction made the image quality worse for me or at least "weird". Some monitors can have a strange "strobing" effect that you don't really "see" but it did exhaust me quickly. Or similar: terrible ghosting when enabling gaming specific features. If you have a high refresh monitor and a low refresh rate monitor in the same setup (even on different gpu's), it can happen that windows 10 takes the lowest refresh rate for all displays, but it shows you everything configured correctly! So you play actually on 60hz. Avoid big displays (like 34" ultrawide) that don't have the massive resolution to back it up. It will look pixelated when reading / browsing etc. Sidenode to this: Some new games have crap support for multi GPU, even if their previous titel supported it! (FE: BFV). When I pump out constantly more than 140+ fps, I personally felt that I didn't really need adaptive sync technology at all. I actually ended up with a 24,5" 1080p 240hz TN panel from a company that good experience working with this technology. It seemed to have the fastest response time and also reasonably high image quality to me.
It's 34" not 24", but the LG 34UC79G is a good monitor - it has an 1800r curved IPS panel, 144hz refresh rate overclockable to 165hz, 1ms response time with a setting in the menu and it has Freesync. Some people say the 2560 x 1080 resolution is too low for the size of the display, but the advantage is that it is really easy to drive and it is fairly cheap at around £400. I found a deal on a refurbished model when I bought mine, it cost me £260.
Maybe make a video about how to pair an Nvidia card with freesync. It is supported since a recent driver couple months ago! Pretty easy to do asswell, so maybe a quick guide could make the live of an Nvidia user way easier to choose cheap monitors with 120+ hz and still have freesync working so you will never notice tear or lag no more!!
LegendaryFrosty lol I had to have a whole argument with this guy on twitter because he thought that Xbox plays games at 120fps even though they can only have 120fps on the home screen and dashboard. The sad part was he classified himself as a game designer and said that Xbox was “VERY VERY powerful”.
shooting Techquickie at 240fps wouldn't be a bad idea, futureproofing your work and making sure it displays nicely on people with insane resolutions is nice, so when can i expect to be able to watch Teckquickie at a 32:9 aspect ratio?
I know this is a beginners guide to choosing a monitor but there is more to a fluid experience than FPS. These videos never go into frame timing or image persistence, which affects ALL LCD panels. Ideally you want a panel that can do Frame Draw=Panel Refresh=Backlight Strobe.
A high refresh rate monitor is worth it, even if you don't have the graphics power to use all FPS, as with vsync off, you will have less screen tearing! E.g. at 45FPS on a 60HZ panel, about 75% of the frames will have a tear, and each tear will be on screen for 1/60hz=16ms. With a 45FPS on a 240Hz display, only 18% of the frames will have a tear and they will be on screen only for 4ms! No adaptive/gsync needed, and you have all the performance and response time benefits off vsync off with way less tearing! Also just mouse movement and scrolling in windows is more pleasant with a high refresh rate.
"E.g. at 45FPS on a 60HZ panel, about 75% of the frames will have a tear," By that logic you can get 0% screentear by running your 45fps game on a 45HZ panel. 0% is better than 18% screentear afterall. Guess how you can achieve that automatically with a native hz higher than 45? Turn g-sync on. Your logic has some holes at face value is all I am saying. If you insist on running a screen at 1000hz but can only achieve 100 fps.....well I would imagine G-SYNC (hypothethically brining tearing down to 0%) is going to use less resources than 900 extra frame refreshes (hypothetically bringing it exponentially closer to 0% but not quite). The amount of difference on normal windows activities and mouse movement....sure I get that it will be smoother....but if u can have a nicer looking screen or larger screen or more pixels or more FPS instead....then choose those instead of extra hz for ur monitor, it makes no sense to invest in extra monitor hz unless ur fps is running greater than those hz to begin with.
People always say that it’s only worth it for shooters but I don’t see why any other game wouldn’t benefit?? I mean playing an RPG at 60 is a much nicer experience than playing it at 30 so why not the same improvement when going from 60 to 144?
This is wrong.... Humans brain can only detect 25 Frames per second to work with but if you ever had a 144hz Monitor you would have seen a reallllllllly big difference between 60 and 144hz. You can see practically infinte fps but only work with 25 of them. Hope you know now a Bit more😊
@@Average_Mortal i use an 144hz Monitor for a while now and When i use 60 fps limit it feels like 1fps for me😂 your eyes get totally broken after Gaming in 144 hz my eye is very bad too
As someone who doesn't game much anymore, rarely at all. I still benefit having 144Hz for day-to-day computer use just because everything moves smoother. Files move around smoothly, editing is nicer, etc. Being use to it for over 4 years, whenever I use a windows OS on 60hz ( like at work ) I feel like the computer is lagging until I remember Oh, right, 60hz.
4:00 and THIS is why I only use IPS panels, I have my computer in my living room and frequently watch movies and other media while recumbent in the sofa.
Got myself an AOC monitor in 2015. It's a 24'' 1080p 144hz that also claims "1ms". Still haven't really gotten to take advantage of it though since I've been using a GTX 960 4G this whole time..
There's nothing wrong with buying a 120/144 Hz display and paring it with a card that can only push out 80-100 FPS at a given resolution. It offers a smooth experience, no tearing, and you don't have to deal with VSync or adaptive sync. And it can be affordable.
I have 60hz but it's 4k so it's really nice. I know 120hz is nice but too me it only really made a difference in competitive games which I don't really play. 4k on a 43" is way cooler to me personally. The only thing I miss is the smooth mouse curser when. Damn was it satisfying for like 3 days Edit: Forgot to mention my current display supports HDR as well which looks really nice on the handful of games that support it. Just need flight sim to support it then I am golden
Linus: *Doing sponsor segment of Intel.
Recommendation video at the end : "Why Intel is struggling against AMD" lol.
Right
sooo true! xD
I got recommended a pogostuck episode from markiplier. definitely watching it.
Linus it's like i want your money but not your bullshit
Psst
Shoot techquickie at 240 frames per second? You don't even do it at 60 yet!
You Tube can't display more than 60FPS anyway so...
Yeah cause you can only smell -19837 frames per pixel
@@Average_Mortal not sure if it changed recently but there is now a "1080p60" quality option on some videos.
@@kissu_io youtube didn't change
you did
@@Average_Mortal 60fps + x2 speed = 120fps
Mind: Man, I need a monitor to pick... I need to lean about them
Linus[3 hours later]: We got em
oh shit, FBI wanted to help you
Today I Was just looking at refresh rates and boom here it is
watch the video of not an apple fan about 144hz monitors
Just buy 240hz monitor, the difference is quite noticeable in comparing to 120hz. I have one and don't regret buying it even though it is tn panel. Tn panels are also typically brighter than ips, but it depends on the exact model.
@@dimacherepovskyi8600 No just don't, 240Hz isn't worth it unless money isn't your concern at all, It's the last thing you want in your setup. 144Hz is more than enough, and the step up from 144hz to 240 isn't noticeable, at least from my experience, but the price jump is quite big.
There is insane difference between 60 and 120
thers a big diffrence between 60 and 75hz
Maybe you are from another galaxy. I dont see any big difference between 60-120 fps. There is a very small difference but its mostly noticable in ONLY a few videogames. Its because some games are not designed "very well" and low fps can make them feel less responsive to your input and make things feel a little bit sluggish. Like Team fortress 2. You can notice a difference with higher FPS in the responsiveness of your inputs and things seem to go a little bit "faster"
There's a 10% difference between 60 and 66.
@@dieselgeezer18 more than half people with 120hz who don't see the difference didn't activate on settings(120Hz monitors dont have it enabled out of the box)
The bulk of that difference though is going from 60 to 90 that's like 90% of the difference in feel. And from 90fps to 120, yeah, the difference is there but nowhere near as big. And from 120 and above it's pretty difficult to tell, just accuracy for fast reaction shots goes up, but visually barely anything changes.
An OLED, 1ms, 240hz, 4K, superultra wide monitor: *Exists*
Esports: uh oh
Jxshua Yuzn they wouldn’t get it cause it’s be hard to push that many frames at 4k
I wish that existed lmao
In 10 years...
It's very difficult for even the best GPU's around at the moment to push out that many frames where if you drop down to 1080P it's really easy to render that many frames per second
Eternal Ohm you can use crossfire and sli.
Idk about gaming or work but i love moving my mouse on a 144 hz at the desktop lol ;p
Thats a great reason to buy one! :D
You should upgrade to moving windows around and scrolling through web pages and documents. It's that much better xD
@@edfort5704 XD!
Wait until you do it on 360hz
I read that as
“Is your *mother* FAST enough?”
just picked up a 144hz mother the other week, watching her do the dishes is much more pleasing than my old 60hz mother
She sure is
@@wangchong94 wait
Fast enough to kill you while gaming
@@wangchong94 NO
165hz ftw!
And its impossibly easy to see the difference between 100fps and 144fps
Oh, Nick!!! Hi!
well... hi Nick, love your comparison videos.
Yessir
@Malachai Carter that’s your personal experience. I cannot, and I mean cannot, play a FPS game at 100 FPS anymore with my 144hz monitor. It feels like shit.
@@liad345 Sounds about right. 44 frames under the Hz of the monitor. That doesn't sound like a good experience to anyone I imagine.
Some people enjoy having smooth segways into sponsors; Linus, however, specialises in making them rough as 40 grit sandpaper.
4:31 - Speaking of deep pockets, INTEL... Lol
LTT: A Chanel for tech nerds who CAN tell fps difference and it's still recorded at 30 fps.
Movies and videos doesn't need more than 24 FPS unless you're watching the Football World Cup.
@@AgentSmith911 LOL. A higher fps is always nicer to watch/play. It's easier on the eyes.
@@AgentSmith911 You say you "need" high fps for football. I say i "need" high fps for everything. It's just nicer to watch/play and easier on the eyes.
@@harrison1999 No it's not. Any movie in 60 FPS is ruined and looks like a soap opera.
@@AgentSmith911 Lord of The Rings (Desolation of Smaug) was shot at 60 fps. I don't understand the soap opera reference.
I always wanted to play the fake game in the rog monitor ads. Am I the only one?
You're not the only one
Everyone who seen a ROG product trailer wants to play it
That's not a fake game. I've played it. It's quite old though.
@@TheSonicFan4 what's the name?
@@TheSonicFan4 we NEED the name
Exceptionally well done for a sponsored video. Being that Techquickie is technical explanations, I was really worried how tainted the content might be when sponsored. Really, really well done to keep the sponsorship out of the content and put it at the end. Exactly what I would expect from you guys. Keep being awesome.
I personally have a 27” 2560x1440 144Hz monitor, and I never plan on upgrading any further unless these things get cheaper eventually. It looks crystal clear to me, and like the video says, the better you get, the less noticeable the changes become.
And here i am with my 1920*1080 60hz monitor from 2013 and im happy xD
@@westernspy561 Even a 75hz monitor is a signifficant upgrade. 60hz nowadays is considered low tier and choppy
@@robertmile I don't even remember when i made my comment but oh well, I'm still using 60hz and i don't need more considering 60fps is more than enough for me(especially since i grew up with a laptop that barely got 20fps on most games)
Can't wait to play Roblox on 240 FPS, ultra settings!
edit: OMG 1K likes for my stupid comment!
Roblox 60 FPS cap :((((
Commander 66 pffttt even that wouldn't work.
You need a quantum computing center for it
@@sysierius You'll also need 1 Googolbytes/second of internet to get that
@@dustin10weering20 1 Googolbytes/planck seconds*
@@hoshikunai On Github there is this fps unlocker for roblox. Use it at your own risk though because people have been getting warnings and bans but the creator tries to bypass the detector.
240Hz refresh rate advertisment segments?
I'M SOLD!!!!
And now intel is sponsoring Techquikie.. Thanks AMD !
See the video raccomandation at the end
@@danielepicone2557 i did. i'm guessing intel is worried if techquikie would be harsh on them after this awesome 3rd gen ryzen cpus..
Me: Has 1700$ PC
Also me: 1080p 60hz monitor
Edit: Getting my monitor tomorrow, finally :)
I have a 1200€ PC but I have a 1024x768 CRT
@@KofolaDealer CRT usually has high refresh rate
Bruh I feel you I forgot about the monitor when considering my rig.
@@movzfast I replaced everything in my computer except the GPU. Fortunately I'm not a big gamer so it's not a big deal.
@@AppleBS11 They had to, otherwise they would cause eye strain
My experience about seeing the difference:
30-60fps: clear as the sky in a sunny day
60-120fps: yes, still clearly see even in the desktop
120-240fps: well ... only if you know, what to see and where...
Try eye-tracking moving text/objects or images on screen. You'll tell the difference easier the higher the jumps in refresh rate.
@@edfort5704 That's what I told. If you know what to see :) E.g.: Half-Life 2 train station fences, when you strafe in front of them.
Or just simply move your mouse in circles when you have a pointer.
Yep, one thing I don't agree with what linus said was like try before you buy, the problem is sometimes you don't realise how bad the 60hz monitor is until you've actually used 120 or 144 monitor for like a month
@@leexgx Agree. 120Hz for everyone. 144Hz does not sound good for a 60Hz video (e.g. youtube), but I will check it later
I have a 144hz monitor. And i see the difference if battlefield for example drops to 95. But 110fps is eneugh for me to not really notice the difference anymore
My laptop has 144 Hertz screen, and my main desktop I plug into it is 75 Hertz at 3440 X 1440. And I personally prefer the higher resolution 10-bit IPS screen over my higher refresh rate laptop screen. I'm had it for 3, almost 4 years now, and I'm very excited to see higher refresh rates being available for these ultra-wides without having to sacrifice the color accuracy bit depth or resolution.
Video: Published in 2019
LTT: *Still showing footage of old Dust 2*
Video idea: Why switching to fullscreen mode and back is so much slower on pc than on mobile - please upvote so they see :)
@Ilham Ramadan That doesn't really explain why it's faster on mobile than PC.
But yes, exclusive fullscreen mode in windows behaves differently than a mobile, it dedicates all the graphics resources to one application, it's slow in a game because theres a lot of resources being used which has to be swapped out when you switch between windows/desktop and the game, also when you alt+tab back in, the game has to figure out how to recover from suddenly losing access to the graphics driver.
A phone just doesn't do that, everything is sharing the same resources at all times, just as if you had everything in windows or borderless windows on PC.
The best part is that fullscreen'ing a video has gotten slower. seemingly for no reason
Tell that to my iPad mini 2 from 2013
That’s just windows. There are things you can change to make it faster. There’s a focus setting somewhere on windows 10 that if disabled speeds it up tremendously. Gaming on Linux I switch back and forth almost instantly.
If I wanted a warm fuzzy feeling, I’d antialias my graphics.
@RED AND BLACK GAMING Maybe - maybe not........
what does antialias mean
Just 4 years ago, we struggled with the idea of high refresh rate, low response time, color accurate, HDR capable monitors. But in just 4 years, we’ve far surpassed it and pushing it even further. If there’s one thing I can appreciate of the dystopian future we live in, it’s this.
I mean the whole 24fps for your eyes thing is so easy to debunk. How the hell are you seeing the difference in 30 and 60 fps if your eyes only perceive 24?
Exactly XD
I wonder why movies don't suffer from this effect since the standard for film is 24fps.
@@WildRandomVideos-wo3xe Because they use motion blur. Motion blur captured by a camera is not the motion blur you see in games. Cameras see real motion blur like your eyes see, games use artificial motion blur. It's with this motion blur that the 24fps in movies looks smooth
@@ASOTFAN16 Oh ok, I didn't know that. Thanks!
More frames
Less graphics
That’s how you game.
2:19 Hey that's the monitor I am getting for my new build!
I sure love buying another monitor just to get a higher refresh rate for my rig
Justin why?
Good for ya Justin 👍
Nobody wanted you back
Marko420 lmfaooooo
5th comment pog
I've intentionally stuck with 60 fps because I don't want to know what I'm missing and more fps equals more money.
I made the mistake of having a 4k monitor, a 144hz one and the last one has an IPS panel. Now I'm unfulfilled with all three.
Just play cs source, any garbage pc can run it 144fps
Links Loki
Just tape them all together
you're not missing much. the more frames you get the harder it is to tell. 60fps is good enough for most applications and most people. i bought a 240hz monitor and it was complete overkill. i can't get newer games to run past 90fps on highest settings anyway.
@@lowkey276 Cheer up. All those features will be coming in the same monitor in the next few years at more affordable prices than the current $2,000 monitors with them :)
Hey Linus as a physiologist I can clear up that 24hz myth. Each neuron in the eye is paired with a dark counterpart that both are connected to a Rod or Cone light sensitive cell then to a bipolar set of cells that fire an impulse to either the dark or light neuron. this ratio of how many light to dark impulses as well as where the set of neurons innervate to in the visual cortex determines the picture and how bright and what color things are. This process takes time for the signal to build up by individual photons hitting enough rhodopsin to close enough ion gates in the rod/cone cell to allow for repolarization and then transduce a signal to be modified in the bipolar cells that then modify the pattern of firing to the neurons then the signal has to reach the visual cortex and be processed. Yes this takes an estimated 70 milliseconds and that's where these frame rate estimates get pulled from but this is happening individually across millions of rods and cone cells so each one is processing visual data. This is a simplified version but you can get the point, the eye acts like the opposite of a screen where each rod is like a pixel but instead of the CPU telling the pixel to shine light the "pixel" or light sensitive cell gives information to the "cpu" the brain. Just each pixel acts independently with a network of pathways within the CPU to produce and image.
Techquickie in 240 might be to much, that's true however I wouldn't mind all of your videos in 60 fps
Forgot to mention high refresh rates can be less straining on the eyes and makes simple tasks like scrolling feel nicer
Not gonna lie.. I was searching for a new monitor and was wondering if I want 144Hz or 60 Hz :D Nice video as always ! :)
XG2402 is awesome
just bought a 60 hz 4k to go with my 1440p 144hz monitor. 4k looks nice, but honestly the 1440p monitor is where it's at for FPS games
@@ravenwrack So true. My hp spectre x360 has an amazing screen...except ive been spoiled by my gaming monitor at 2k/144hz.
Everything is extremely smooth at 144hz!
if you're a healthy
Whatever comes with an IPS screen...
My monitor is only 11 years old and it's working perfectly!
Dont mean its good
@@gokucanfly4593 It's a Samsung
Damn that monitor is older than you
@@Neil001 ouch....
Capacitors will likely be starting to go >< they only last so long. Your monitor will take longer to turn on and warm up that will be the first signs just fyi
how and why isn't this uploaded in 60 fps?
Oh god I hadn't thought about that
yeah. 8k camera. 10 gb internet. still doesnt upload 60fps videos?
because there’s no difference for this type of content.
@@HO-zy2bv and? there is no difference for this type of content. it’s not like he showed content in different fps to show viewers a difference.
60 vs 144 Hz is extremely noticeable. Even if you're not a gamer!
I've used a 144 Hz for a long time, then I bought a new cable for it, which defaulted my Hz to 60. I didn't realize what happened at first, but I could SWEAR something was off. I kept telling my friends that everything on my PC felt sluggish like it was lagging. Even the mouse cursor on my desktop looked like it lagged; it felt unprecise and almost left this weird trail behind it. It took me an hour and several rounds of laggy frustration in PUBG before I even thought of checking the Hz setting. It was such a relief seeing that it was set to 60 Hz, that I wasn't going crazy.
It's that noticeable. Even in Windows when browsing files or the internet. You can 100% tell by how your mouse cursor looks. Then imagine the difference in a fast-paced fps game...
I really want a 4K monitor, but I can NEVER go back to 60 Hz again, so I'll stick with my 1080p 144hz monitor for a while longer.
Linus: We need more powerful computer for 240Hz
Me: Just lower the graphic quality
I think I can't go any lower
I'm pushing over 240fps in most e-sport games on low settings just fine on my GTX 1060 3gb and i7-2600k @4.8ghz.
Picked up a 1080p 240hz monitor (ironically the exact same LG monitor mentioned in the video) for 185 euros (~$200 us) in an outlet store, best deal ever.
@@lamensje LOL THAT PRICE! Where are you from, mate?
@@xavalintm I guess I happened to be very lucky.
I'm from the Netherlands, not exactly known for being cheap.
@@xavalintm
Probably a view sonic xg2530. They're very cheap for a 240hz panel.
Is there something different with how this Techquickie video was shot? It looks really clear and pleasant.
The colours look of though.
As an Ultra Extreme High Pro Gamer, I use a triple 420' 1337Hz monitor setup running games at over 9000fps to accurately make my headshots in MMORPGs.
ZarT dirty Ultra Extreme High Pro Gamer peasant I use a Quintilian Life essence screen in my eyeballs with 5 trillionHz to play fortpie HA
idk what I just said but XD
Great video! We use a couple AOC 1ms 144hz for our audio/video editing and StarCraft II tournaments in our office.
just overclocked my 60hz to 70hz and it is great, i love it, i spent over 10 mins just moving tabs around as it felt way smoother, if an extra 10hz is that good, i can't imagine how good 300hz would be
I overclocked my laptop monitor to 95hz xd
I bet you downloaded the extra mhz first
I just built my budget computer and I switched from console rainbow to pc and playing at 120-144 on ultra settings is a game changer
i switched to a higher refresh rate display(120hz) a year back.... And mannn going back to 60hz is painfully slow, can definitely notice the difference!
I a 100% agree. Going up it's usually not that noticeable, but going back down is painful and impossible :P
I feel same, when after playing cs go at 60+ fps i run some heavy 30fps title.
I actually think there is a bigger difference going from 60 FPS to 75 FPS (which is the monitor I am using right now) than going from 75 FPS to 110 - 120 FPS (playing on a friend's 144 Hz monitor). I feel like the bulk of the gains are from each incremental frame you get from 60 FPS up to 80 FPS or maybe 90 FPS and then you hit rapidly diminishing returns after that.
Personally I think the bigger difference is 100-144 but that just my eyes
Higher refresh rate is actually better for the eyes from a health perspective, literally no joke
It's actually better for you health, look it up
@Dam Sen how so?
@Techquickie You completely forgot to discuss response rate! refresh rate is great and all, but the speed of the monitor responding to your inputs, is super important in the Esports Realm. My friend was I'm struggling very hard on his fighting games, until he bought a 1ms monitor. this should be a perfect subject for your next video.
I have a 1080ti and an i7 8700k too bad I can’t use them to their full potential
CRIES IN 60FPS 16MS PANEL
I feel your sadness
You've got the money for an enthusiast level gaming rig but not for a decent monitor?
@@SteffenMeyer101 he needs to download brains
@@SteffenMeyer101 I have a 1080/8700k and I have a monitor overclocked to 76Hz lol. I will upgrade to the MSI Optix MAG241CR though.
@@rubenjanse3065 nice choice, I'm gonna buy the Pixio PX275h for my next build. 1440p/27"/IPS/90hz/Freesync
Just switched from 144 to 360hz it feels like I can see everything cleary on the screen even in fast motions, its amazing
Wow, even at 240 Hz, I still see lag spikes when I look at Linus' head!
High refresh rate does help even with low fps. It reduces screen tearing when vsync is off.
Viewsonic XG2530 has high input lag so don't get it.
Everyone knows that the human eye can only see 1TB of storage.
Ikr smh
High refresh > everything. Totally changed my build goals when I got a 144hz monitor - everything looks insanely better at 90+ fps on one at the minimum.
100hz 34 ultra wide 1440p is more then good enough for me
Dominick Jaramillo I love my 32 inch 144hz G sync monitor
Dominick Jaramillo
100hz is ok. 120-144 is the sweetspot
1440p can be 1440 pixels in length, right?
@@TheSlimeKilling_Minecart no.
Honestly I cant tell to much of a different between 100 to 144 also love to play all my games in ultra 1440 p
This is so true I went from 22inch 1080p ips at 60hz to a 27inch 1440p ips at 144hz and the difference is astounding
Love my 27in 1440p 165hz monitor :)
Is it the ASUS VG278QR?
@@brian21118 i use aorus ad27qd , i just want to ask do you guys who have 165hz monitor see many mouse pointers when you move the mouse pointer across the screen at 165 hz on monitor
@@brian21118 Mbest....got it for just $250
@@arnoldshmitt4969 depends on how fast you move it, but yes
arnold shmitt that's the point of high refresh rate your monitor does more checks then a 60hz panel thus thinks like your cursor show up more
You could also overclock your monitor which helps, I got mine from 60-74hz
I got mine from 60 to 105hz and its great!
@@movzfastRdzen I will assume you mean 150hz, it will help but like Linus said, if you cant get frames beyond that it won't do much good. If you have 15hz of course it is
@@diamondarrow4567 I think you misunderstood my dude. He's talking about the difference between 60 and 74Hz.
@@movzfast I used to have a 60hz monitor, and now have a 75hz monitor but I don't see much of a difference, and overclocking ur monitor can harm it so there's no need to
Linus Challenge: Do a segue without saying "segue"
Happy with my laptop 144hz IPS with 1060 6gb.
same but i got 3gb
"and this video is sponsored by..." **caught** who?
with a 240hz monitor you can read text while scrolling in web browsers, just like on a CRT monitor. 60hz or even 120hz will blur the text.
This video is sponsored by Intel
*Video Recommends "Why Intel is Struggling against AMD"*
Top 10 anime betrayals, number 1:
It's like, i want your money but not your bullshit
I hate where we're at with monitors. I can tell the difference between 144hz and 240hz. I have a 27" 240hz monitor, but I wish it was a bit bigger and also 1440p.
I'd also like a large ultrawide that's 160hz, 1440p, and not a VA panel.
Is a 2k 144Hz worth the price? I currently use a 4k 60Hz monitor
yes i have one and it's fucking amazing
Do you play competitive games ?
I think 2k is the sweet spot for performance while having a great amount of graphic fidelity at the same time. But if I had a 2080ti or something then I'd want a 4k 144hz 👀
@@michalserwatka365 yep
@@TheBeatboxHitmanTwo exactly
Btw the guy on the intel site is Jordan n0thing Gilbert csgo pro player. Just noticed it now....
2:25 Linus' home address is casually in the top left corner.... Amateur
Please dont go visit him
It's the office address. Easy now, boy.
I checked the website, and the adresses dont match
Hey, what about scrolling!!! The refresh rate matters a lot for reading while scrolling website or other stuff. The higher the better!
Me: See's notification.
Me: Thinks to self *man I hope it's a new TQ video*
Me: *sees it's a TQ video*
Me: YUSSS!!
I tested a couple 300€-550€ gaming monitors for my self around January 2019 and I had some rather odd results:
There was a lot of shenanigans with monitor features, enabling one thing could disable another. So if both is on the box, doesn't mean that you get both. One panel I tested had freesync forcefully enabled with a vega card (couldn't be turned off) -> but when enabled, low latency mode was forcefully disabled (couldn't be turned on). So you had no low latency mode and even if you could, you would never have free sync.
"Enhancing" Features like different kinds of blur reduction made the image quality worse for me or at least "weird".
Some monitors can have a strange "strobing" effect that you don't really "see" but it did exhaust me quickly. Or similar: terrible ghosting when enabling gaming specific features.
If you have a high refresh monitor and a low refresh rate monitor in the same setup (even on different gpu's), it can happen that windows 10 takes the lowest refresh rate for all displays, but it shows you everything configured correctly! So you play actually on 60hz.
Avoid big displays (like 34" ultrawide) that don't have the massive resolution to back it up. It will look pixelated when reading / browsing etc.
Sidenode to this: Some new games have crap support for multi GPU, even if their previous titel supported it! (FE: BFV).
When I pump out constantly more than 140+ fps, I personally felt that I didn't really need adaptive sync technology at all.
I actually ended up with a 24,5" 1080p 240hz TN panel from a company that good experience working with this technology. It seemed to have the fastest response time and also reasonably high image quality to me.
Wait people aren't using dial up internet anymore. How will I call Google now?
Wow I can't believe I made that unfunny of a joke.
Just got my first 144hz free sync monitor! It’s a pure butter display!
im still waiting for 1080p IPS 24inch 120 or 144 hz monitor.. -__-
Don't Wait. Buy a 1440p 144hz Monitor used.
It's 34" not 24", but the LG 34UC79G is a good monitor - it has an 1800r curved IPS panel, 144hz refresh rate overclockable to 165hz, 1ms response time with a setting in the menu and it has Freesync. Some people say the 2560 x 1080 resolution is too low for the size of the display, but the advantage is that it is really easy to drive and it is fairly cheap at around £400. I found a deal on a refurbished model when I bought mine, it cost me £260.
@@popyfx2599 1440p = 27 inch. I dont need that. i better have multiple 1080p IPS monitors. Easier on GPU etc...
@@popyfx2599 too bad not even a 2080ti can run triple 1440p 144hz on newer games. 1080p still has a place for weaker GPUs or surround gaming.
i have 1080ti and basically it would be perfect to game in surround tripple 1080p ips120hz setup.
Maybe make a video about how to pair an Nvidia card with freesync. It is supported since a recent driver couple months ago! Pretty easy to do asswell, so maybe a quick guide could make the live of an Nvidia user way easier to choose cheap monitors with 120+ hz and still have freesync working so you will never notice tear or lag no more!!
Someone in my class was very happy to buy a 120Hz monitor for his Xbox lmao
lmao rip
LegendaryFrosty lol I had to have a whole argument with this guy on twitter because he thought that Xbox plays games at 120fps even though they can only have 120fps on the home screen and dashboard. The sad part was he classified himself as a game designer and said that Xbox was “VERY VERY powerful”.
Project Xbox scarlett allegedly can play at 1080p 120Hz FreeSync; it's supposed to use Navi and Zen 2.
Mitchell M. It should be able to doubt the 8k part maybe just 8k playback
Julatz Schmulatz lol true
4:49 Linus your dance moves were smoother than Minecraft running at 240 FPS on a 240Hz monitor.
I am still on 60Hz and I'm perfectly happy. I just need to avoid high refresh rate monitors so I don't see the greener grass.
Yeah cuz one you go past 60 if u try to go back you absolutely will notice its inferior.
true :D I bought a 144Hz monitor and in the beginning I didn't saw a great difference, but now i am spoiled and can't game on a 60Hz screen anymore.
@@michaelrichter2528 too bad not even an rtx 2080ti can get 144fps@1440 except esports games
shooting Techquickie at 240fps wouldn't be a bad idea, futureproofing your work and making sure it displays nicely on people with insane resolutions is nice, so when can i expect to be able to watch Teckquickie at a 32:9 aspect ratio?
Me: *plays on 500hz*
Linus: *BuT iS iT fAsT eNoUgH?*
Linus: We gotta watercool it
Jay: We gotta overclock it
Steve: We gotta LN2 cool it
EVGA: We gotta make an overclocking war
¯\(◉‿◉)/¯
I know this is a beginners guide to choosing a monitor but there is more to a fluid experience than FPS. These videos never go into frame timing or image persistence, which affects ALL LCD panels.
Ideally you want a panel that can do Frame Draw=Panel Refresh=Backlight Strobe.
I like how this video wasn’t in 1080p60 while they were saying 60fps is what online video is mostly at... 😂
that’s mostly for gameplay. for this type of video there’s not much benefit
I went from 30 to 75…I can never look back now.
_Sponsored by intel_
*Su bae screams in the distance*
now justin is fast as f too
I thought this was a fake
im your second like lol
I'm finally early on a Justin Y. comment, yay!
@@Bynax you r like a father to m
Linus Media Group and Intel, frenemies back together
Haven't you heard? Nvidia brought Intel so that makes them all the same company now.
2025: 500hz
also 2025: 2 hz invented for console gamers
A high refresh rate monitor is worth it, even if you don't have the graphics power to use all FPS, as with vsync off, you will have less screen tearing! E.g. at 45FPS on a 60HZ panel, about 75% of the frames will have a tear, and each tear will be on screen for 1/60hz=16ms. With a 45FPS on a 240Hz display, only 18% of the frames will have a tear and they will be on screen only for 4ms! No adaptive/gsync needed, and you have all the performance and response time benefits off vsync off with way less tearing!
Also just mouse movement and scrolling in windows is more pleasant with a high refresh rate.
"E.g. at 45FPS on a 60HZ panel, about 75% of the frames will have a tear,"
By that logic you can get 0% screentear by running your 45fps game on a 45HZ panel. 0% is better than 18% screentear afterall. Guess how you can achieve that automatically with a native hz higher than 45? Turn g-sync on.
Your logic has some holes at face value is all I am saying. If you insist on running a screen at 1000hz but can only achieve 100 fps.....well I would imagine G-SYNC (hypothethically brining tearing down to 0%) is going to use less resources than 900 extra frame refreshes (hypothetically bringing it exponentially closer to 0% but not quite). The amount of difference on normal windows activities and mouse movement....sure I get that it will be smoother....but if u can have a nicer looking screen or larger screen or more pixels or more FPS instead....then choose those instead of extra hz for ur monitor, it makes no sense to invest in extra monitor hz unless ur fps is running greater than those hz to begin with.
You can at least make 60FPS video
wouldn’t make a diff
People always say that it’s only worth it for shooters but I don’t see why any other game wouldn’t benefit?? I mean playing an RPG at 60 is a much nicer experience than playing it at 30 so why not the same improvement when going from 60 to 144?
It's fucking expensive
I am probably weird but I can detect 60hz from 75hz
Georgi Murlev weird flex, but ok random internet buddy.
But linus is smooth asf with switching to ads and promotions cause holy shit
Ah linus.. Don't you know.? Human eye only see upto 60 fps.. Pff
This is wrong....
Humans brain can only detect 25 Frames per second to work with but if you ever had a 144hz Monitor you would have seen a reallllllllly big difference between 60 and 144hz. You can see practically infinte fps but only work with 25 of them. Hope you know now a Bit more😊
I have a bad eye so i can only see up to 30FPS. #FeelsConsolePeasantBro 😜
@@Average_Mortal i use an 144hz Monitor for a while now and When i use 60 fps limit it feels like 1fps for me😂 your eyes get totally broken after Gaming in 144 hz my eye is very bad too
You actually see over 1000 fps
As someone who doesn't game much anymore, rarely at all. I still benefit having 144Hz for day-to-day computer use just because everything moves smoother. Files move around smoothly, editing is nicer, etc. Being use to it for over 4 years, whenever I use a windows OS on 60hz ( like at work ) I feel like the computer is lagging until I remember Oh, right, 60hz.
Hi
Jashan Manghnani because he often is.
I just bought a Viewsonic Elite XG270QG ... very pleased with it ...
i appreciate no bullshit music in the background while trying to listen. thanks
3:00 Human eye balls vs Sharingan vs Mangekyou Sharingan - Uchiha Linus
4:00 and THIS is why I only use IPS panels, I have my computer in my living room and frequently watch movies and other media while recumbent in the sofa.
Got myself an AOC monitor in 2015. It's a 24'' 1080p 144hz that also claims "1ms". Still haven't really gotten to take advantage of it though since I've been using a GTX 960 4G this whole time..
There's nothing wrong with buying a 120/144 Hz display and paring it with a card that can only push out 80-100 FPS at a given resolution. It offers a smooth experience, no tearing, and you don't have to deal with VSync or adaptive sync. And it can be affordable.
I have TN panel. It's fine, it has a viewing angle of horizontal/vertical: 170°/160° which is fine.
I have 60hz but it's 4k so it's really nice. I know 120hz is nice but too me it only really made a difference in competitive games which I don't really play. 4k on a 43" is way cooler to me personally. The only thing I miss is the smooth mouse curser when. Damn was it satisfying for like 3 days
Edit: Forgot to mention my current display supports HDR as well which looks really nice on the handful of games that support it. Just need flight sim to support it then I am golden
Unfortunately all affordable high refresh rate monitors are TN panels
Leonardo O dont even buy high refresh rate VA or IPS panals they're crap I had an experience woth the Msi Mag241c optix