Congrats, smooth landing despite bad weather. Always loved the landing approach over Lake Geneva. Means I'm home ! 🙂 Will subscribe to your channel as I love aviation. Thank you. Greetings from Geneva, Switzerland ! 🇨🇭
I really like to land this thing with 150+ in FSX, cause the wings are enormous for that size and the landings are smooth and safe! Ty for that great plane!!!
I almost finish learn flying this beauty in FSX (Aerosoft) I just need to learn some stuff and landing smooth with it, i did a -390 FPM landing in centerline, touchdown zone in Eldorado, do u think -390 FPM is hard? I think it is a lil bit. (Did it with rain and 13kt wind) It looked okay on the replay. Awesome video too i can now improve my landings
@mikecharlieyankee Great video! Love and best wishes from India. I observed that between PAPI and ILS, you disregarded the 4 reds on short finals. But what if it is the other way round? Meaning that the PAPI shows you 2 red 2 white but the ILS shows otherwise. Do u still continue to land or go missed?
Thanks for your interesting question! Actually when u get on very short final, even with a small correction of descent path the PAPI tends to change very quickly. In this case as we are flying the ILS we have to be exactly on the glide as it's consider reliable and fully operational. We had a very short discussion about it with my colleague on final but that was just for awareness, we do indeed disregard the PAPI in this case. Sometimes the PAPI lights are indicating a different path angle compared to the instrument approach you are following, a very good example is Heraklion, Greece, where the RNAV is 3.4° and the PAPI at 3.0° in this case if you fly the visual approach you can fly a 3.0° path but if you fly the RNAV procedure until the end the PAPI is gonna be 4 whites! ;)
@@MikeCharlieYankee Thanks for your response. As I am also pursuing my CPL now, I had almost guessed your reply to my question. But still wanted to be sure about it. Cheers and Happy Landings!
In this case both, the papi and the ILS were on a 3.0dgr glide path, we are flying the ILS so looking to complete a full IFR approach following the glide information from it. For an unknown reason the Papi lights were not in compliance with the 3.0dgr path on short final. The main subject here is about flying following an IFR procedure or coming for a Visual approach ;)
The PAPI lights are fine, it’s just that at larger airports, PAPI are designed for widebodies. On narrowbodies, the smaller difference between the gear path and the eye-level path means that by design, a two whites / two reds indication will at some point lead you away from the nominal glide path.
Full reverse is not necessary for braking efficiency, (only mandatory in some listed conditions) you reduce drastically the cost of operation of the engines if you use reverse idle.
We always try to conclude a flight with a safe approach no matter the weather, if it’s not safe we just don’t continue the approach, or worst case scenario we don’t even go, in this case it was not that bad weather but stormy still :)
Congrats, smooth landing despite bad weather. Always loved the landing approach over Lake Geneva. Means I'm home ! 🙂 Will subscribe to your channel as I love aviation. Thank you. Greetings from Geneva, Switzerland ! 🇨🇭
really nice approach into (GVA)...sweet landing..well done..
Thanks! Always happy to share!
I really like to land this thing with 150+ in FSX, cause the wings are enormous for that size and the landings are smooth and safe! Ty for that great plane!!!
I spent quite a lot of time doing the same in FSX back in the days and I loved it as well! Flying it for real is such a reward!
Enjoy!
Well, this kind of video should have at least 10 mil views after a month from uploading.
Well done sir!👏👏👏
Thanks mate! 😎
Завораживает,потрясающая съемка.
Greased it with extra butter. Superb regardless of conditions - considering them - hard to see how that could be improved :)
Nice..from Makassar,Indonesia
Hi there! Thanks from Greece!
Sir i like how you just made the landing a fun landing! Hehe
Thanks! Always land focus but with the smile! ;)
@@MikeCharlieYankee any tips sir cuz my dream is to become a pilot one day and I'm in 9th rn..? Where can I contact u?
Perfect rainy landing
I almost finish learn flying this beauty in FSX (Aerosoft) I just need to learn some stuff and landing smooth with it, i did a -390 FPM landing in centerline, touchdown zone in Eldorado, do u think -390 FPM is hard? I think it is a lil bit. (Did it with rain and 13kt wind) It looked okay on the replay. Awesome video too i can now improve my landings
Awesome landing! Thanks for sharing! All the best!
@mikecharlieyankee Great video! Love and best wishes from India. I observed that between PAPI and ILS, you disregarded the 4 reds on short finals. But what if it is the other way round? Meaning that the PAPI shows you 2 red 2 white but the ILS shows otherwise. Do u still continue to land or go missed?
Thanks for your interesting question!
Actually when u get on very short final, even with a small correction of descent path the PAPI tends to change very quickly. In this case as we are flying the ILS we have to be exactly on the glide as it's consider reliable and fully operational. We had a very short discussion about it with my colleague on final but that was just for awareness, we do indeed disregard the PAPI in this case. Sometimes the PAPI lights are indicating a different path angle compared to the instrument approach you are following, a very good example is Heraklion, Greece, where the RNAV is 3.4° and the PAPI at 3.0° in this case if you fly the visual approach you can fly a 3.0° path but if you fly the RNAV procedure until the end the PAPI is gonna be 4 whites! ;)
@@MikeCharlieYankee Thanks for your response. As I am also pursuing my CPL now, I had almost guessed your reply to my question. But still wanted to be sure about it. Cheers and Happy Landings!
The papi lights didn’t work properly ! OK , so how do you know when they are not working properly and when to disregard them. ? Thank you !
In this case both, the papi and the ILS were on a 3.0dgr glide path, we are flying the ILS so looking to complete a full IFR approach following the glide information from it.
For an unknown reason the Papi lights were not in compliance with the 3.0dgr path on short final.
The main subject here is about flying following an IFR procedure or coming for a Visual approach ;)
The PAPI lights are fine, it’s just that at larger airports, PAPI are designed for widebodies. On narrowbodies, the smaller difference between the gear path and the eye-level path means that by design, a two whites / two reds indication will at some point lead you away from the nominal glide path.
Awesome landing and fantastic video! thanks for sharing! :)
Thanks much for always coming over and checking in the new videos ;)
@@MikeCharlieYankee I absolutely appreciate your videos, keep up the great work! :)
Did you do full flap or flap 3
Flaps FULL ;)
you guys don't go full reverse? I notice you put on reverser idle
Full reverse is not necessary for braking efficiency, (only mandatory in some listed conditions) you reduce drastically the cost of operation of the engines if you use reverse idle.
Weather radar looks pretty good no red though
Of course we don't fly the red ;)
This was a secure approach insteed of the bad weather.
We always try to conclude a flight with a safe approach no matter the weather, if it’s not safe we just don’t continue the approach, or worst case scenario we don’t even go, in this case it was not that bad weather but stormy still :)
Sweet!
what if go around？
You retract the gear and the flaps on schedule and you come back for another round :D
Why is there a stick by the window?? It's yellow and black
Don't really see what you are talking about can you be more precise...
@@MikeCharlieYankee it's behind the tablet
@@deborshikashyap6745 I looked again can't see bro..
Thats the window shade :D
@@jumpnrun3368 okay
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