The frontier pretty much copied and pasted this design. Many times I can't tell between the trucks at least in video. In person it's a little bit easier to tell judging by the whopping 3 I've seen on the road since it's redesign.
Awesomeness!! I have a manual also I'm glad to hear you have had no issues hopefully I can say the same nice truck BTW mine is the off-road 🤷 basically the same thing 💯
@@tacomafan5186 I take very good care of my clutch don't ride it, only press on it when I switch gears blah blah blah how long do you think a stock clutch will last? Damn dude you drive a lot of miles! About 20K per year huh? But at least you're driving it in a nice truck! 😁 🛻💨
Hey Kirk, great review especially with a manual. I think the backseat will fold down all the way if you remove the head rest. The back seat storage is a great feature.
Funny how some people talking about this truck's interior is dated. Well I'm a 62 year old guy and I love dated to me it means less problems with not to much technology .As far as the 4th Gen Tacoma my prediction it's going to be a let down
Nice review. Yep, the 3.5 with the manual is geared slightly lower than the auto and thus is less lethargic. This at the expense of taller gears and highway fuel economy. Not a powerhouse by any means but more tolerable than the slush box. Shame they never offered a manual with the double cab long bed. That would be my ideal build.
Although, the automatic struggles to maintain it's 6th gear at highway speeds. Making it usually a 5 speed when gas mileage matters. When my 19 6MT was stock I could get 23 - 25 mpg highway. I completely agree, they're definitely not power houses, but it's at least sufficient unlike the auto which feels very anemic.
There's usb ports inside the center console. Rear seats will fold down completely but you have to take the head rest out of each back seat. There's a place on the back of the seat (2 holes) where you can store the headrest
Bro I luv that color its nice because u don’t see that color too often that’s what makes it special…& hell yea u gonna get more looks in that than the Integra😁
My best friend actually just got a TRD one without the pro, but manual. He let me drive it and Kirk pretty much nailed this one on the head. The transmission feels great, definitely made for cruising though, clutch grabs high up on the pedal and is smooth. Fortunately and unfortunately has a lot of lockout situations though to protect the trans. For example if you are trying to bang through gears 1st through 3rd will not allow it when you are revving them out. Of course the rest will and the tacoma does boogie in those gears, no worries you can still dump the clutch lol and the auto LSD does quite well getting traction. Definitely will spin a bit in turns revving out first and and second, definitely due to the gearing Kirk was talking about, it does feel quite torquey.
“City” **laughs in NYC** All jokes aside I love manuals and have had a few but traffic really ruins the experience ESPECIALLY stop and go traffic. I’d even settle with 15-20mph traffic because then I can keep it in gear. Anyway, I’ve been itching for a manual and now that I don’t live in the boroughs I was thinking of getting one. There’s still traffic on the outskirts too but not nearly as bad. Nice truck and good review!
That's funny You're one of the first people I've heard say that the truck likes to be driven around 2-3,000 RPMs You're exactly right that's what I noticed it's slow but that's where the truck feels like it just cruises when you start getting on it more yeah the truck will go but something just doesn't feel right well at least not as comfortable. It's a clunky powertrain tho, I bought mine brand new with 16 mi so I guess it's the way it's supposed to be and I've been revving mine up a little bit because I'm breaking the motor in I change the oil the first time at 545 mi & change it the 2nd time @ 2,500 miles along with the transmission fluid & swap it to amsoil... Toyota wants you to wait till like 10,000 mi or some crazy shit for an oil change by then I will be ready for my 3rd oil change... From then on it's every 10K if I'm not mistaken & I will change it 1X in between
My favorite pickups are the Toyota Tacoma and the Honda Ridgeline. Tacoma is a great truck, but the Ridgeline, which I love for it's handling, can usually be bought at a better price.
If Frontier and Tacoma are mid size, is the Hi-Lux, the Mitsubishi Triton and the Isuzu D-Max considered small size? I know these last three pickups are not in the US market, but these are off roading legends in the rest of the world.
The new frontier is the best in class .💜️💜️. 1. Frontier .2. Tacoma . Top Two best in class .💜️ . However the upcoming next gen tacoma will be miles better than the frontier .
The only Nissan I would ever consider would be a GTR. Everything else Toyota wins for reliability and resale value. That’s why they are over priced. Wow you have apple car play lol who cares about that when your stuck on the side of the road..
@@subermario5501 the frontier has always been good on reliability except for like 2 years even the titans I wouldn’t consider any Nissan or any automaker models using cvt owned Nissans and Honda hrv’s I’m the past Great car all lasted but the transmission where shitty to drive. But if your implying that Nissan Frontier have shit reliability your wrong
That wireless charger is utterly pointless. The charger gets too hot to charge more than 3-5% before shutting off. On top of that, the transmission is right underneath it and on long drives it warms up without the charger even on so it's not a good place to put your phone.
The interior really is showing its age. I rode in a friends last year and seat height was low and uncomfortable and I’m only 5f7i tall. The exterior is best part , engine is a gas hog for a 6 cylinder. Why spend all that money when a new generation is coming out possibly next year?
Bring back the 4.0 with a 6 speed! No need for turbos! No thanks! Sad I missed out on the TRD Off-Road I had a deposit on. Had damage, wasn’t touching it.
@@mike_wellington_ fantastic that’s funny I’m literally about to buy that same vehicle for my wife. Enjoy it one of the last great Toyota v8 trucks out there.
Hopefully they don’t go to a 4 cylinder turbo in this or the 4Runner. Toyota is known for reliability and I don’t think going to turbos is a smart long term idea. We will see. I believe the Frontier is the better way to go.
Tacoma needs new engines and everything . turbo i4 and i4 turbo hybrid will more than enough as engine options lol . These new engines will tow better and faster more economical and better overall .if things dont change with the time then we would still drive ford model t lol
IF YOU OPTION FOR A HYBRID VEHICLE NOTE THIS----ONLY THE DEALER CAN WORK ON IT CAUSE OTHERS DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT OR KNOWLEDGE...AND MAKE SURE YOU GET RID OF IT BEFORE THE WARRANTY EXPIRES CAUSE THEY ARE TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE TO repair…..NEVER EVER PURCHASE ANY VEHICLE WITH AN EXPIRED WARRANTY, NO WARRANTY, DO NOT BUY! DO NOT PURCHASE AN ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE BECAUSE THE TECH. IS NOT PROVEN; NO INNER STRUCTURE exists TO CHARGE EASILY NOR HAVE PARTS TO REPLACE WHEN REPAIR NEEDED...
Typically I’m an advocate for any manual vehicle, but this isn’t one of them. The engine feels extremely lethargic. Revs are so slow, but the engine makes a ton of noise. The manual is rubbery with throws as long as an old tractor. You cannot smoothly shift this without complete concentration, and this is coming from someone who has been daily driving manuals for 20+ years. I’m happy Toyota at least offers the manual, unfortunately this one is terrible.
Is this by any chance the 2.7 liter 2TR series 4 cylinder engine being used as the Tacoma base trim? This engine series is the successor to the decades long R series engines used with Toyota pickups, vans and cars for nearly 40 years, and is only a RWD application. TR engine is used by Hiace, Innova, Fortuner, Hilux and Prado, none of whom are sold in the US. A brutal bulletproof workhorse engine that is only meant to get the job done. You don't expect Lexus refinement here unlike the 3.5 liter V6 option which is also used on Lexus.
The thing about the Tacoma is that it looks so much more athletic than the other trucks in this class ( except for maybe the frontier)
The frontier pretty much copied and pasted this design. Many times I can't tell between the trucks at least in video. In person it's a little bit easier to tell judging by the whopping 3 I've seen on the road since it's redesign.
Frontier is so much uglier than this lol
Good review. I have a 2019 Sport with the manual trans. Bought the truck new and just rolled 70,000 miles. Still love it. Have had zero issues.
Solid!
Awesomeness!! I have a manual also I'm glad to hear you have had no issues hopefully I can say the same nice truck BTW mine is the off-road 🤷 basically the same thing 💯
@@honda116969 I’m at 81,000 miles now. Still no issues.
@@tacomafan5186 I take very good care of my clutch don't ride it, only press on it when I switch gears blah blah blah how long do you think a stock clutch will last? Damn dude you drive a lot of miles! About 20K per year huh? But at least you're driving it in a nice truck! 😁 🛻💨
the manual looks so fun to drive!
It's very rewarding and fun!
6 speed manual transmission is awesome! Makes driving fun interactive. Makes your truck unique. Manual trans driving is toyota heritage. Love it.
I purchased a 2022 Off-Road manual a few months ago and I love it.
4Runner should have a manual.
No, I don't need another reason to buy a 4runner in this current market
Hey Kirk, great review especially with a manual. I think the backseat will fold down all the way if you remove the head rest. The back seat storage is a great feature.
That makes sense. I thought he was saying that the head rest is non-removable.
I’m loving the color!! 💚 looks like kiwi lol
They should have called it “Kiwi Green”, but maybe in other markets, eh?!
Funny how some people talking about this truck's interior is dated. Well I'm a 62 year old guy and I love dated to me it means less problems with not to much technology .As far as the 4th Gen Tacoma my prediction it's going to be a let down
Nice review. Yep, the 3.5 with the manual is geared slightly lower than the auto and thus is less lethargic. This at the expense of taller gears and highway fuel economy. Not a powerhouse by any means but more tolerable than the slush box. Shame they never offered a manual with the double cab long bed. That would be my ideal build.
Although, the automatic struggles to maintain it's 6th gear at highway speeds. Making it usually a 5 speed when gas mileage matters. When my 19 6MT was stock I could get 23 - 25 mpg highway. I completely agree, they're definitely not power houses, but it's at least sufficient unlike the auto which feels very anemic.
There's usb ports inside the center console. Rear seats will fold down completely but you have to take the head rest out of each back seat. There's a place on the back of the seat (2 holes) where you can store the headrest
Bro I luv that color its nice because u don’t see that color too often that’s what makes it special…& hell yea u gonna get more looks in that than the Integra😁
Love the manual Transmission.
Please Toyota keep giving us manual tacomas ..!!!
My best friend actually just got a TRD one without the pro, but manual. He let me drive it and Kirk pretty much nailed this one on the head. The transmission feels great, definitely made for cruising though, clutch grabs high up on the pedal and is smooth. Fortunately and unfortunately has a lot of lockout situations though to protect the trans. For example if you are trying to bang through gears 1st through 3rd will not allow it when you are revving them out. Of course the rest will and the tacoma does boogie in those gears, no worries you can still dump the clutch lol and the auto LSD does quite well getting traction. Definitely will spin a bit in turns revving out first and and second, definitely due to the gearing Kirk was talking about, it does feel quite torquey.
In order to fold the rear seats, you have to remove the headrests and place them into the corresponding holes on the lower seats.
A must option is the TRD Quick shifter
“City” **laughs in NYC**
All jokes aside I love manuals and have had a few but traffic really ruins the experience ESPECIALLY stop and go traffic. I’d even settle with 15-20mph traffic because then I can keep it in gear. Anyway, I’ve been itching for a manual and now that I don’t live in the boroughs I was thinking of getting one. There’s still traffic on the outskirts too but not nearly as bad. Nice truck and good review!
i get that ppl like the old school truck, but, the prices are nolonger old school, esp. w dealer mark ups
A good looking truck.
I wish you could get the manual with the longer bed....such a shame you can't!
I love this truck color so much ☺️❤️👌🏻👌🏻 so super trick
You gotta take off the headrests to fold them flat and stick the headrests into the seat bottom cushion holes
That's funny You're one of the first people I've heard say that the truck likes to be driven around 2-3,000 RPMs You're exactly right that's what I noticed it's slow but that's where the truck feels like it just cruises when you start getting on it more yeah the truck will go but something just doesn't feel right well at least not as comfortable. It's a clunky powertrain tho, I bought mine brand new with 16 mi so I guess it's the way it's supposed to be and I've been revving mine up a little bit because I'm breaking the motor in I change the oil the first time at 545 mi & change it the 2nd time @ 2,500 miles along with the transmission fluid & swap it to amsoil... Toyota wants you to wait till like 10,000 mi or some crazy shit for an oil change by then I will be ready for my 3rd oil change... From then on it's every 10K if I'm not mistaken & I will change it 1X in between
My favorite pickups are the Toyota Tacoma and the Honda Ridgeline.
Tacoma is a great truck, but the Ridgeline, which I love for it's handling, can usually be bought at a better price.
My guess is that when Toyota releases the new Tacoma with I4 twin turbos the Frontier will be getting a bump in sales.
The exhaust tip is not what produces the sound. The muffler does.
If Frontier and Tacoma are mid size, is the Hi-Lux, the Mitsubishi Triton and the Isuzu D-Max considered small size? I know these last three pickups are not in the US market, but these are off roading legends in the rest of the world.
Remove the rear headrests and plug in into the holes of the bottom
Hmm...I have 3 USB ports in my '22 Pro. There are 2 more in the center arm rest console - 1 of which is a type C.
The new frontier is the best in class .💜️💜️. 1. Frontier .2. Tacoma . Top Two best in class .💜️ . However the upcoming next gen tacoma will be miles better than the frontier .
Lol I would take a Toyota over a Nissan any day of the week.
@@subermario5501 and you would overpay for a lesser vehicle any day of the week. At least as far as the Tacoma and Frontier go
Let’s not speak too soon. Let’s just hope the next gen Tacoma isn’t 4 cylinder turbo only and isn’t ridiculously priced like the tundra
The only Nissan I would ever consider would be a GTR. Everything else Toyota wins for reliability and resale value. That’s why they are over priced. Wow you have apple car play lol who cares about that when your stuck on the side of the road..
@@subermario5501 the frontier has always been good on reliability except for like 2 years even the titans I wouldn’t consider any Nissan or any automaker models using cvt owned Nissans and Honda hrv’s I’m the past Great car all lasted but the transmission where shitty to drive. But if your implying that Nissan Frontier have shit reliability your wrong
To fold the seats flat remove the headrest
it's just too bad they're so gutless! i hope to get one at some point
First show
It’s hard to know where to start with errors in the video, there are alot
Kermit the Frog Green
🐸 😂
That wireless charger is utterly pointless. The charger gets too hot to charge more than 3-5% before shutting off. On top of that, the transmission is right underneath it and on long drives it warms up without the charger even on so it's not a good place to put your phone.
Not really with these inflated prices. A SR/SR5 4x4 v6 is more than enough for the regular joe. And even at $34-$36k is high for a basic truck.
The Frontier is better in my opinion
The interior really is showing its age. I rode in a friends last year and seat height was low and uncomfortable and I’m only 5f7i tall. The exterior is best part , engine is a gas hog for a 6 cylinder. Why spend all that money when a new generation is coming out possibly next year?
Because last year of a product cycle will be most reliable and best-built. Also many people don't want turbos or hybrids.
Did you see how they messed up the Tundra?????
I Own same one / color / manual shifts better than my 21 pro automatic
Tacoma or Frontier? Get a Taco, will outlast the Nissan by far.
Bring back the 4.0 with a 6 speed! No need for turbos! No thanks! Sad I missed out on the TRD Off-Road I had a deposit on. Had damage, wasn’t touching it.
I have a 2013 with the v6 and 6spd manual. Love it
@@tylerwest3820 yeah they are amazing. I just bought a 23 GX though.
@@mike_wellington_ fantastic that’s funny I’m literally about to buy that same vehicle for my wife. Enjoy it one of the last great Toyota v8 trucks out there.
your the only person ive ever heard say this engine likes lower rpms. thats an odd statement because this engine barely makes any power under 4000rpm
Hopefully they don’t go to a 4 cylinder turbo in this or the 4Runner. Toyota is known for reliability and I don’t think going to turbos is a smart long term idea. We will see. I believe the Frontier is the better way to go.
I agree, What I’m more worried about that was independent rear suspension instead of a solid rear axle.
I would say there is a 95% chance they’re going with a turbo 4 in the next generation.
Tacoma needs new engines and everything . turbo i4 and i4 turbo hybrid will more than enough as engine options lol . These new engines will tow better and faster more economical and better overall .if things dont change with the time then we would still drive ford model t lol
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 How’s that new turbo doing for the Tundra?
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 and break down more often....
Pristine edge
There is nothing new about the 22 tacoma. They just slapped a trd logo on the shocks.
IF YOU OPTION FOR A HYBRID VEHICLE NOTE THIS----ONLY THE DEALER CAN WORK ON IT CAUSE OTHERS DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT OR KNOWLEDGE...AND MAKE SURE YOU GET RID OF IT BEFORE THE WARRANTY EXPIRES CAUSE THEY ARE TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE TO repair…..NEVER EVER PURCHASE ANY VEHICLE WITH AN EXPIRED WARRANTY, NO WARRANTY, DO NOT BUY!
DO NOT PURCHASE AN ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE BECAUSE THE TECH. IS NOT PROVEN; NO INNER STRUCTURE exists TO CHARGE EASILY NOR HAVE PARTS TO REPLACE WHEN REPAIR NEEDED...
Cabin is too tight and seat position sucks... Toyota fix that I'll buy one
Battle of the outdated platforms the Tacoma vs the Frontier.
They're all outdated. Colorado and Ranger are just old platforms from other regions.
RIP tacoma, 4th gen are absolute trash like the tundras.
Typically I’m an advocate for any manual vehicle, but this isn’t one of them. The engine feels extremely lethargic. Revs are so slow, but the engine makes a ton of noise. The manual is rubbery with throws as long as an old tractor. You cannot smoothly shift this without complete concentration, and this is coming from someone who has been daily driving manuals for 20+ years. I’m happy Toyota at least offers the manual, unfortunately this one is terrible.
Is this by any chance the 2.7 liter 2TR series 4 cylinder engine being used as the Tacoma base trim? This engine series is the successor to the decades long R series engines used with Toyota pickups, vans and cars for nearly 40 years, and is only a RWD application. TR engine is used by Hiace, Innova, Fortuner, Hilux and Prado, none of whom are sold in the US. A brutal bulletproof workhorse engine that is only meant to get the job done. You don't expect Lexus refinement here unlike the 3.5 liter V6 option which is also used on Lexus.
You must be drunk if you think the 6mt taco is horrible. Probably one of the best experiences I've ever had in a normal vehicle with a manual.
No, no it’s not. Ranger bests it pretty hard.
😂