@@darylyost7273 Why are you just replying "Ruby Ridge" to a bunch of comments in this thread? Also, do you think Ruby Ridge was funny, or sad? You have a bunch of emojis in your comments.
@Bebecat477 I'm more mad at his boss. Refused the shooter's multiple demands to get the girl out by letting his sister get her. Refused his sister who begged police to let her get close to get his daughter. They said the sister's life was at risk and he'd shoot her. They messed up when he said he wasn't going to shoot the aunt but they didn't budge. It makes me wonder if it was a stubborn police chief.
@@brittr1358 I wonder if they thought he'd just kill his sister. She was brave enough to want to try. If Eli had cared about his child, he'd have just sent her out
@@corycripmasterWhere was he supposed to say it so that your dumbass hears it in your mom’s basement? I spent a total of 30 months in Iraq. Never fucking shoot at something can’t identify. That’s basic not being a dumb shit 101. Thanks for playing, though!
My father was an army sniper and he said that he would have never taken that shot unless he thought that an ally was in imminent danger. He further said that in a situation like that you really need a clear shot and would have to switch positions and use night vision. He said that sniper 1 knew the exact details of the assignment and that there was a live child in the home, so he should have acted with care and with certainty. Lastly, he said that there was no reason for a knock at the door. And he was baffled when the perpetrator opened the door and the police did not go in right then knowing about the active assault. He said that it isn’t just negligence from sniper 1 it’s also negligence from the original responders who could have prevented the entire situation. Also not sure why the doc is saying that the two year old should have crouched?? Maybe I misunderstood that part but not many two year olds know to crouch when getting shot at.
I took docs comment for the fact that her father was shooting & even out the window where she obtains the fatal wound. She was standing or sitting on the couch, not tall enough to be in the window, therefore, the child would be crouched or down on the floor since gunshots are loud & she would be scared. So not when getting shot at but the shooting around her. What caught my attentin was your 1st line, Question, COULD we say Snipper 1 took that opportunity to shoot d/t ally in imminent danger? While I do agree he made a poor decision, he cant disgtinuigh the victim vs target, both police and child were in danger. Sad situation all around.
@@kristyc1046 Police were never in any real danger. Police know how to take cover. Sniper's would relocate if they were taking direct fire. The only people exposed and in danger was the 2 yo and the gun man. The police had all the advantages. This incident makes me angry because it makes professionals look bad. I support the police but when a cop makes a poor decision with such a tragic outcome its really hard to give that support.
@@MrAkaacer Wrong. Every time he fired he had a chance to hit and it would only be a matter of time before he hit an officer or some random person further away. So no, he was an imminent threat.
I find the statement that ppl are judging the sniper harshly bc a little girl died to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard said. If ppl don’t judge someone harshly for killing an adorable little girl, when exactly are ppl meant to judge someone harshly?
The worst thing in that no one will take interest to comprehend everything that led to this couple being in incredibly hostile situation involving a baby, until it has to become tragic; the personal, financial, societal, familial, domestic, etc, factors. The woman’s death was already a tragedy.
Yeah…I dunno that the ‘worst’ part is that…the worst part-in my opinion-is that an adult knowingly endangered their child and now a two year old is dead by gunshot.😕
Essentially a hostage situation. Father could have had his back to the window while holding his daughter and the sniper's bullet would killed them both.
One could think that was dad's plan. The sniper would mistakenly shoot her, because dad set it up. Dad already knew he was going to die, why leave her behind... he let the police kill her by accident. I feel sorry for the sniper. The dad set him up for the dirty deed. Dad was a evil man.
A citizen wouldn't have been placed on a roof with orders to kill if given the shot. So of course they'd be charged. He was ordered to be there. I'm not defending this idiot, I'm just saying comparing his actions to a regular citizen doesn't work because a regular citizen would never be in such a situation as this
@@somehaloguy9372Use your imagination, guy. He wasn’t saying THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO. We ALL know that a civilian isn’t going to be placed in a snipers nest and told to shoot children. He was implying that you use what little bit of imagination that you may, or may not, have….to imagine a similar situation with similar outcomes. Goddamn society is getting stupid.
@move_i_got_this5659 Wonder if the little girl was like: I WANNA SEE!! or if she was being used as a human shield, or if she went to her Dad for safety and comfort in that moment and he pushed her away and into the line of fire…?
“Just a reminder I’m not diagnosing anyone in this video, only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this” would go so hard on a shirt.
I use an adaptation of that statement when I share my opinion on social media in a hope to have a more civil discourse. I think it change the mind frame of a lot of people who tend to attack in comments. It’s a useless attempt on reddit, but can have a pacifying effect on Facebook and UA-cam.
@@Dustparticle000 It's a truncated sports analogy from Basketball. "go hard in the paint" refers to the paint on a basketball court. Just as ‘par the course’ originated from Golf. 🤟🏼
Well covered Dr G Sniper 1 is guilty of involuntary manslaughter as he did not identify his target before shooting & his defence is "I thought the silhouette was the active shooter" But he was wrong & could not have correctly identified or distinguished the identity of a silhouette from 300+ feet Tragic Eli was evil & a murderer The poor child deserved better but her father & SWAT police failed to protect her
Sniper 1 may be haunted by Clesslyn's spirit for the rest of his life because he only killed her earthly body...However, a human's soul can never die...
Oh this was sad. I imagine the sniper feels bad. That poor woman, so close to being safe only to be killed as she escaped. And the devastation of the innocent child being killed. No winners here 😞😞
This is what I keep wondering. He didn't have a scope so he was shooting a shadow. A grown man vs a two-year-old. What about the size of the heads? I also wonder how Sniper 1 can go into work every day knowing that he killed an innocent child. No PTSD? No remorse? How do you rationalize that? And how does the community feel about having a guy on the force like that? He may not be on the SWAT team but is he still carrying a gun? Will he be able to use it when one of his fellow officers needs backup?
Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.
The father didn’t care about his daughter. He could have allowed her leave. He wanted the Police to kill both of them…he wasn’t going to allow Clesslynn to live without him but he couldn’t kill her himself. The father is totally guilty.
No one is disputing that. Two things can be true at once. It doesn't have to be all one thing or all the other. The sniper shouldn't have taken the shot.
@@hydrostatic8048MGTOW What do you suggest she should have done otherwise oh wise one? You ask others if they watched the video, but did YOU miss the bit where he said "if you say that again I will end you".
Totally agree that the father is 100% responsible for putting his daughter in the situation, but the officer who fired at a silhouette that he couldn't be 100% certain wasn't the child bears some responsibility for her death.
It’s an incorrect logic. Would you say the same thing if the cops simply tossed a grenade through the window? While the father is mostly to blame, he did not shoot his daughter, the cop who played eeny meeny miney moe with a high power rifle did.
Dude could afford an arsenal, but couldn't afford a real home for his kid... He also could have let his daughter leave the trailer at anytime before or during the shootout. His demands about having his sister come to get her was simply a way of delaying. Eli murdered his own daughter. He just used a cop to do it.
So it's 9:25 PM and he removed the night vision because " the target was fairly well illuminated " . I would like to reenact that . Maybe there was some light in the camper . However , given the distance and time , I beg to differ . Most police routinely lie on their reports AND get away with it - even if caught . What if they took cover and waited it out ? He has to sleep sometime . There is always tear gas , etc.
Sniper 1 has imprisoned himself by living with the fact he killed a 2 year old child, probably the same age as his daughter if he has a kid. A prison without walls.
Doubtful since he’s still a cop. Any person who isn’t a narcissistic asshole would have left law enforcement or any profession involving firearms. But then again 43% are wife beaters so makes sense.
eh this is a really hard cope lol. he's probably a sociopath and in reality it probably won't affect him long term. life isn't a movie where the bad guy always loses.
The most important rule for a sniper is they “must be absolutely sure of the identity” of any target. That directive is on page one of the FBI’s Advance Rifle Training manual
OK, but theyre Americans and Americans have an obsession with killing people so I don’t think any amount of rules are going to change a cultural problem.
Absolutely, But, without seeing what Sniper One saw, I cannot judge, he, may have been 100% sure, in his mind, that the target was the man, it's called human error, happens all the time, still just an awful, tragic event.
He was absolutely sure though . That’s the thing. Just like how people having delusions are absolutely sure that what they are seeing is real. Reality is subjective ! Scary! He shouldn’t be working anymore.
Basic firearm safety- know your target and what's beyond it before firing. It's a rule all responsible, law abiding firearm owners are expected to follow, even in self defense situations. Had he followed those basic rules, that child would likely still be here. If someone kicks my door open at 3am, I fire, miss and happen to hit a neighbor, I'm responsible for every round and that's fair imo. What I'm sick of is this double standard for the blue line gang where they get to just spray and pray with zero responsibility! What ever happened to holding the police to a *HIGHER* standard?!? I keep hearing that they're the ones with all this great training and on the extreme end, we've got people saying that they should be the only people who can even carry a firearm, shouldn't those people who are supposed to be the experts also be more accountable when they make fatal errors?
F*ring at a silhouette in a window is no different than a hunter f*ringinto a bush because he heard a rustling. It's obvious he didn't intend to hit the kid, but he's still responsible for the shot he took at a target he wasn't sure about.
i dunno...i get the feeling that guy wasn't gonna let his kid live. he used her as a shield. either way, the shoot was a bad call...but i wasn't there getting fired at
Would you hold the military in a firefight or other situation to the same shooting standards? Responsible for each bullet? No "casualties of war" ? Always know your target? Police did a remarkable job in holding off for hours, trying to get the girl out safe and the father to give up. The dad had his own agenda. The police are not and can't be perfect in everything Everytime. That is an absurd expectation. No matter how good they train, they can't account for all the variables ... especially by a crazy madman with weapons of unknown quantity and type... and evil enough to use his toddler as a snipers target instead of himself.
Hostage, not human shield. He was not holding the girl infront of him at any point as a barrier against police. The child was walking freely inside the camper. Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.
@Hathur You are misunderstanding the phrase "human shield" with its literal origins. Google the phrase and learn. The phrase can be used to indicate any physical hostage (even if they dont know they are a hostage) if it prevents immediate direct assault by law enforcement.
@@samhilton4173 This is a law enforcement matter. I have 2 family members who are LEOs, they say "human shield", to police, means a VERY different thing than "hostage". "Human shield" is the most dire form of hostage as it means police likely cannot shoot without a marksman present as the suspect is holding a person between them and police. A hostage on the other hand is just someone being prevented from leaving safely or under threat of violence if they try to leave, but are not actively held between the police and suspect.
US army Firearms training taught me: Never pull the trigger until you have a clear sight picture. Another thing I learned in the army is: When you/people are getting shot at, it's hard to stay calm and focused. Heartfelt condolences to the family. So, so sad.
I hear and respect what your comment says, but unfortunately, these factors would not apply to a well hidden, out of the way sniper whose job description includes keeping a cool and calm demeanor.
Think about it, that poor baby was so used to her father's outbursts that she was just casually standing on the couch while her dad was firing his gun off. 🥺🥺 Hopefully her and her mommy are together now and safe 🙏🏻🕊🤍
There is exactly one guilty party in this situation. That animal was firing at the police and nearby homes with his daughter in the line of fire, then let her (or forced her to) look out of a window knowing the windows were targeted. One guilty party.
People must understand the criminal has no obligation to decency; however, law enforcement does. Never shoot at lights, shadows, noises etc. His assessment was flat out wrong😮
I think he is saying that it is ludicrous to assume this criminal will act rationally after he essentially just threw his entire life away. Nothing to lose. His criminal actions are going to be criminal and irrational in this situation. The bar for the sniper is not anywhere near as low as that and is held to a certain standard to protect the innocent at all cost. He saw something and essentially tossed a coin and hoped he was right. That is not how you protect the innocent. Think about context when reading text and don't just take it literally because he could have typed the wrong word which changes the entire tone of the text. I mean, only if you believe that "People make mistakes", right?
Let me get this straight. The police are surprised that people are upset because he shot an innocent two-year-old in the head and they’re justification for this is that those same people would not be upset if he had hit The actual target? Yeah no kidding guys. As yet another member of the public at large, who doesn’t want to be shot to death by the police, I would appreciate it if you could actually see an identify your target.
The sniper did not properly identify his target as per the orders he was given. He is guilty of involuntary manslaughter. He was not ordered to fire at a silhouette.
@@Bigstooler0 if the windows are tinted, and you're only authorized to shoot a specific person, then basic logic dictates you aren't authorized to fire at all then. Too bad, sit tight until/if you can identify.
Dr. Grande, you didn't comment on the police refusal to allow the sister to collect the child when the perpetrator repeatedly sought to implement this safety measure for his daughter. The sister was willing to assume all risks; perhaps she should have been allowed to collect the child.
Perhaps. But if they permitted her to and she was killed. Your comment would place blame on police. He was unhinged they rarely take chances to place someone else in danger.
When you are dealing with imminent danger, threats, violence and potential death of a two year old baby-EVERYTHING is negotiable!! I don’t care what the SWAT manual says! This is a two year old angel! Sister should have been allowed to accept this risk for her helpless niece ClessLynn. Any of us would have risked the same for our own family. The father wanted her out of the camper and away from the chaos so he could finish his battle and ultimately his life with death by LE and know she was safe. We know this to be true because of his actions after he witnessed his daughter’s death, he said “You shot my daughter””I love you” and immediately turned his weapon on himself. He was never going to hurt his daughter. Poor little soul may she rest in eternal peace.
@@harryb2545 Nope. If he actually loved his daughter, he would have let the daughter walk out first. Or better yet, he would walk out first. He loved his ego more or was on a drug-trip. Police made the right choice by not letting the sister in.
This was a completely avoidable tragedy. De-escalation of the initial domestic violence call would have been a wiser move. RIP Clesslynn. Apparently, no one in your short life had your best interests at heart.
He could have also had his daughter in his arms with his back to the window. It was essentially a hostage situation, especially since the commander wouldn't allow the aunt to rescue the child. Sniper knew that there was a young daughter essentially being held hostage and was under orders, and a moral obligation, to make damn sure of daughter's safety.
@@persephoneszeliga when you generalize like that “these cops”.. you begin to aid to the problem man, that’s not a smart way look at it imo. It pays to look at situations individually not as a whole. Especially given the situation the officer was in.
The issue is not the mistake itself, it's the double standard for police officers where they aren't held accountable for things a non-officer would be.
How could that mother stand to be apart from such a darling little daughter? How could she hand custody to the father with mental problems? That poor baby.
I recently saw police helicopter footage of a chase and shooting. A man had killed his wife and taken his daughter and ended up trapped between about 7 patrol cars on the highway. He started shooting at the cops and they all returned fire from two sides. The 15 yr old girl ran out of the car and while one officer told her to come to them the officers on the other side shot her multiple times, killing her. There were roubds flying everywhere with zero thought given to the girl being in the car, which they knewabout before even finding the car.
How is it that apparently Eli had full custody of the little girl, Clesslyn. His wife knew how unhinged he was & so should never have left her alone with Eli. What a horrifying, tragic event.
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! I also agree that, although Sniper 1 may indeed have acted recklessly, there are just too many exculpatory factors involved to say, beyond a reasonable doubt, that I honestly believe this officer should have been convicted of manslaughter. I would however be in favor of a suspension, not to mention a thorough re-training. This was after all an incredibly tragic mistake that could have been avoided, had the officer in question been more diligent in the task of taking out a violent madman. Sincere condolences to the family of little Clesslynn and her mother Taylor. 💐✝💐
Everyone criticizing the sniper: Don’t forget: Eli had talked about killing his own daughter… there was a lot of pressure on the sniper. He made a mistake. I don’t think he should be held criminally liable since there very obviously was no intent to hurt an innocent child. I do blame the dumbass who made the decision not to let the sister go in and defuse the situation...
No intent but he did. Drunk drivers don't have intent to kill kids either but they do. If anything shouldn't a drunk driver be held less responsible than this guy, considering sniper 1 was sober and trained?
Sniper HAD the intent to kill. And from the safety of his 300'+ distance. And in the dark. And he was/had been the SWAT Team Captain? He gets a break because he wasn't careful? 'Oops. My bad.'
The sniper violated one of the most important rules of ”know what you are shooting at.” He didn’t know, he guessed. That imho is reckless and if my husband or I had done the same thing we would have been prosecuted.
Dirt bag killed himself, his wife and created the circumstances that lead to the death of his daughter. The fact that someone received OVER a million dollars for the unintentional (on the part of Sniper 1) death of a 2 year old is RIDICULOUS!!!!!
And he had the audacity to cry out that he loved his daughter. He was only in love with his own ego. His lack of love for his family created this. no guts whatsoever. No humility at all.
Oh my God. That poor young sniper. I can not even imagine... all that said. Dang. Wth.....ultimately I think the responsibility lies with the man putting his family in danger. But im a nobody
Too many SWAT teams imho. It seems as if every agency has a SWAT Team. The original intent of these teams was to assemble a highly trained and specialized unit that could be deployed to terrorist incidents, a need that became evident after the 1972 Munich massacre. While most major cities do have specialized teams that spend their entire time training and/or responding, too many agencies have part-time SWAT teams, and some of the members do not have the opportunity for constant training. I saw this repeatedly in my 27 years in federal law enforcement.
That swat cop has PTSD for the rest of his life. Desk job from here on. Not using night vision when it is NIGHT, that’s why the city paid up. Had he used the night vision and still shut and killed, the settlement would not have taken place. Even w/night vision the person shooting see what they see. And children’s heads are almost the same size as adults’, esp. at a distance. The error still may have been made. Only one culprit here - the father using his child as a pawn and shield, the killer of the mother. Disgusting. Just awful. Baby girl 🙏 …. 🥺 Rest In Peace Darling.
@@ohsweetmystery If every PTSD Cop would be disqualified we would not have cops. May of them former military. Those have their PTSDs from the device. Stages/sources of PTSD matter too. I wonder whether he/she is allowed a weapon.
13:15 oh… Now it makes sense! He himself told his daughter to stand up on the couch, on purpose, to trick them. It otherwise makes no sense she’s be standing there.
I went through hunter safety course when I was around 11, the first things they teach you are never point at what you don’t intend to shoot and always know what you are shooting. I don’t think he should have been tried, it was a tough situation. He should only have a desk job from here on out though.
Hostage, not human shield. He was not holding the girl infront of him at any point as a barrier against police. The child was walking freely inside the camper. Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.
2 year old kids are nowhere near the height of a man's torso... so if the sniper was aiming high enough for a man's torso, how did the kid get hit in the head?
Whether standing on a couch or being held in his arms with his back to the window, both scenarios are possible that would result in death of the young child. It was essentially a hostage situation; and, the commander refused to let the child be rescued by his aunt. Sniper's negligence to consider the facts and obvious possibilities is what killed the daughter/ hostage.
Despicable to use his daughter as a shield, then they win a lawsuit. Agree with your analysis & breakdown of events & legal terms. Very sad case again😑Thanks Dr G😊💚💚
My god. One of the worst things I’ve ever heard. The officer that shot that poor baby has a long road ahead meaning the rest of his life he will have this on his mind
This is what the lawyer said. “This is not a forgettable one. This is one of the worst cases I've ever been involved in,” he said. “This was a completely and totally innocent two-year-old girl who had her life taken from her in an extremely reckless action by law enforcement.”
My grandson turns 2 years in a couple of days so I can imagine how that little girl would have been so confused and scared. Her father is primarily to blame for all three deaths. Whilst sniper 1 made a very bad decision charging him and convicting him serves little purpose. Sniper 1 will no doubt be punishing himself with deep regret for the rest of his days. What a tragic story.
Yeah.. this whole situation is not cool. The good guys can’t keep using the Bad Guy’s behavior for legitimacy. An Eye for An Eye has nearly left us All at a disadvantage, I Say.” LEv
That poor precious baby. This one makes me really sad.
She’s rich and in the void now
@@benhartart9487 what?
Ruby Ridge?😂😢😮😅😊
@@darylyost7273 Why are you just replying "Ruby Ridge" to a bunch of comments in this thread?
Also, do you think Ruby Ridge was funny, or sad? You have a bunch of emojis in your comments.
He violated one of the basic rules of gun safety: know what your target is.
Yep.
He also hit the fridge, an unintended target.
@@adotintheshark4848He had NO BUSINESS being a sniper. He was a wannabe bigshot😂!
That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.
@@theeater1756no, uvalde was a bunch of cowards
Eli put his daughter in that situation, but the sniper should have been CERTAIN knowing the child was in there.
@Bebecat477
I'm more mad at his boss. Refused the shooter's multiple demands to get the girl out by letting his sister get her. Refused his sister who begged police to let her get close to get his daughter. They said the sister's life was at risk and he'd shoot her.
They messed up when he said he wasn't going to shoot the aunt but they didn't budge. It makes me wonder if it was a stubborn police chief.
@@brittr1358 I wonder if they thought he'd just kill his sister. She was brave enough to want to try. If Eli had cared about his child, he'd have just sent her out
Ruby ridge
His wife called the cops
@@gregj.gotham4402 Yes, the woman he likely raped and later murdered, actually wanted to live and not be abused any more! Who'da thunk it?
Your analysis is spot on.
An entire family was wiped out because of the actions of one man. Eli
Men ☕️
and of one negligent cop...
@@vivienm2037 Yawn.
@@stefpix No, that's wrong. Once he threatened to take her out the clock was ticking.
Planets getting wiped out b/of actions of liberals. Immigrants 15 million😞
RIP Little Clesslynn 🕯
You’re responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun
Exactly.
Know your target or DON’T SHOOT.
Unless you’re a police officer.
@@DamianCassidy-u2v exactly. They face no consequences.
Wait BUT who placed his daughter in danger…think of that.
@@Patricia-x4g so you don’t think a TRAINED SNIPER should know what he’s shooting? Yeah you have a room temperature IQ
What a long, tragic end to that poor babies short life. 😢
Never shoot at something you can't identify.
Thanks for the tip guy
Easy to say from your keyboard/smartphone.
yup this is 101 facts
Won't work when the aliens invade bro 👾
@@corycripmasterWhere was he supposed to say it so that your dumbass hears it in your mom’s basement?
I spent a total of 30 months in Iraq. Never fucking shoot at something can’t identify. That’s basic not being a dumb shit 101. Thanks for playing, though!
My father was an army sniper and he said that he would have never taken that shot unless he thought that an ally was in imminent danger. He further said that in a situation like that you really need a clear shot and would have to switch positions and use night vision. He said that sniper 1 knew the exact details of the assignment and that there was a live child in the home, so he should have acted with care and with certainty. Lastly, he said that there was no reason for a knock at the door. And he was baffled when the perpetrator opened the door and the police did not go in right then knowing about the active assault. He said that it isn’t just negligence from sniper 1 it’s also negligence from the original responders who could have prevented the entire situation. Also not sure why the doc is saying that the two year old should have crouched?? Maybe I misunderstood that part but not many two year olds know to crouch when getting shot at.
Poor child didn’t even know what was going on some people shouldn’t have kids…
I took docs comment for the fact that her father was shooting & even out the window where she obtains the fatal wound. She was standing or sitting on the couch, not tall enough to be in the window, therefore, the child would be crouched or down on the floor since gunshots are loud & she would be scared. So not when getting shot at but the shooting around her. What caught my attentin was your 1st line, Question, COULD we say Snipper 1 took that opportunity to shoot d/t ally in imminent danger? While I do agree he made a poor decision, he cant disgtinuigh the victim vs target, both police and child were in danger. Sad situation all around.
@@kristyc1046 shut yo ass up
@@kristyc1046 Police were never in any real danger. Police know how to take cover. Sniper's would relocate if they were taking direct fire. The only people exposed and in danger was the 2 yo and the gun man. The police had all the advantages. This incident makes me angry because it makes professionals look bad. I support the police but when a cop makes a poor decision with such a tragic outcome its really hard to give that support.
@@MrAkaacer Wrong. Every time he fired he had a chance to hit and it would only be a matter of time before he hit an officer or some random person further away. So no, he was an imminent threat.
The pic on the thumbnail. Breaks my heart. Poor angel baby 😞
This video should've had a Kleenex warning ⚠️. 🥺
Dr. G, this is such a heartbreaking situation. That poor sweet baby.
it's possible she was a complete brat. But it's still tragic.
I find the statement that ppl are judging the sniper harshly bc a little girl died to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard said. If ppl don’t judge someone harshly for killing an adorable little girl, when exactly are ppl meant to judge someone harshly?
The worst thing in that no one will take interest to comprehend everything that led to this couple being in incredibly hostile situation involving a baby, until it has to become tragic; the personal, financial, societal, familial, domestic, etc, factors. The woman’s death was already a tragedy.
I'm going to say drugs played a large part in it.
Many people choose to live the 'low life' lifestyle. It is completely normal to them.
Yeah…I dunno that the ‘worst’ part is that…the worst part-in my opinion-is that an adult knowingly endangered their child and now a two year old is dead by gunshot.😕
Confusing a grown man with a 2 year old girl at 100 yards looking true a scope is unbelieveble! He should be prosecuted
Funny how the dad allowed the child to stand on the couch in front of a window during this incident.
Essentially a hostage situation. Father could have had his back to the window while holding his daughter and the sniper's bullet would killed them both.
Everyone knows the father was a horrible person, they just expected more from their police officers.
One could think that was dad's plan. The sniper would mistakenly shoot her, because dad set it up.
Dad already knew he was going to die, why leave her behind... he let the police kill her by accident.
I feel sorry for the sniper. The dad set him up for the dirty deed.
Dad was a evil man.
@@ohsweetmystery that part
funny how they don't trust sniper 1s target assessment. so much so they took him off swat. its funny how actions show how people really feel
I agree that Sniper 1 ignored the risk of killing a child. Though not charged, he's got to live with his awful misjudgment.
I doubt that he's losing much sleep over this.
@@gazoontight
was about to write the exact same
@@gazoontighthow do you know?
@@HaYlEeXx19 You don't become a sniper unless you have the drive to kill.
@@gazoontight I doubt you know either way.
If it had been a citizen that took that shot they would have charged the citizen.
And the citzen could be looking at life in prison
Sick, isn't it?
A citizen wouldn't have been placed on a roof with orders to kill if given the shot. So of course they'd be charged. He was ordered to be there.
I'm not defending this idiot, I'm just saying comparing his actions to a regular citizen doesn't work because a regular citizen would never be in such a situation as this
That’s just not true.
@@somehaloguy9372Use your imagination, guy. He wasn’t saying THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO. We ALL know that a civilian isn’t going to be placed in a snipers nest and told to shoot children. He was implying that you use what little bit of imagination that you may, or may not, have….to imagine a similar situation with similar outcomes.
Goddamn society is getting stupid.
Gun safety 101, always identify your target.
Gun safety 101.1, always confirm your target.
@move_i_got_this5659 Wonder if the little girl was like: I WANNA SEE!! or if she was being used as a human shield, or if she went to her Dad for safety and comfort in that moment and he pushed her away and into the line of fire…?
@@mistrjt9213 This has nothing to do with gun safety, and you know it.
@@richardhart9204it has to do with these people's mental safety.
@@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass … what?
“Just a reminder I’m not diagnosing anyone in this video, only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this” would go so hard on a shirt.
"Go so hard on a shirt" What language is that?
I use an adaptation of that statement when I share my opinion on social media in a hope to have a more civil discourse. I think it change the mind frame of a lot of people who tend to attack in comments.
It’s a useless attempt on reddit, but can have a pacifying effect on Facebook and UA-cam.
@@Dustparticle000 It's a truncated sports analogy from Basketball.
"go hard in the paint" refers to the paint on a basketball court.
Just as ‘par the course’ originated from Golf.
🤟🏼
A bit lengthy lol
It's cringeworthy language used by teens.
How is it that I need a licence to have a dog but any POS can have a child with no checks or balances
Where do you live where you need a license to own a dog? 🤨
Many children live in unstable homes. Often compliments of family court. Look at that dolt from eight passengers.
@@hydrostatic8048MGTOWMost places in the US have dog license rules, although I don't know how much it's really enforced.
@@hydrostatic8048MGTOWmost cities you are lawfully mandated to license your dog.
Hmm, by that measure, 90% of people would not be allowed to have children.
Well covered Dr G
Sniper 1 is guilty of involuntary manslaughter as he did not identify his target before shooting & his defence is
"I thought the silhouette was the active shooter"
But he was wrong & could not have correctly identified or distinguished the identity of a silhouette from 300+ feet
Tragic
Eli was evil & a murderer
The poor child deserved better but her father & SWAT police failed to protect her
Dr Hispanic democrat.
@@garrysekelli6776you can vote for the wrong person but still have valid opinions elsewhere.
That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.
@@garrysekelli6776Who is a Hispanic Democrat?
Imagine the irreparable trauma you have to live with because you accidentally killed a 2 year old?
Assuming he has a conscience to begin with
Yeah that would be messed up you wouldn’t want to live anymore that would be the worst nightmare
Sniper 1 may be haunted by Clesslyn's spirit for the rest of his life because he only killed her earthly body...However, a human's soul can never die...
That's risk that comes with the territory.
@@aussiejewels ...huh
If you can't tell a baby from a grown man at 100 yards . You have no business behind a gun
Absolutely horrific.
Oh this was sad. I imagine the sniper feels bad. That poor woman, so close to being safe only to be killed as she escaped. And the devastation of the innocent child being killed. No winners here 😞😞
Thanks for giving your thoughts on this horrible event! That’s why I subscribed. Thanks for keeping your politics out of it.
How do you mistake the TORSO of a grown man with the HEAD of a 4 year old? how?
This is what I keep wondering. He didn't have a scope so he was shooting a shadow. A grown man vs a two-year-old. What about the size of the heads?
I also wonder how Sniper 1 can go into work every day knowing that he killed an innocent child. No PTSD? No remorse? How do you rationalize that? And how does the community feel about having a guy on the force like that? He may not be on the SWAT team but is he still carrying a gun? Will he be able to use it when one of his fellow officers needs backup?
Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.
sniper with no scope and no spotter and no night vision is just shooting at a house lol
He was just shooting at anything that moved.
Some children just never have a chance because of the parents they are unfortunate to have.
Shocking on many levels.
If you can't tell the difference between a child's head and a man's torso,you shouldn't be taking that shot.
The same way people are 100% sure they see a bigfoot, and we all know it's just a tree...
She was standing on the sofa, so looked like an adult to the sniper.
@@BridMhor lol, you mean like when 2 kids stand on eachothers shoulders to look like an adult? Lmao that is nutty
That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.
@@theeater1756uvalde were confirmed coward cops
Due to him removing/not using night vision should prove recklessness.
You can't use NV when observing an Illuminated target it will blind you. But thanks for your ignorant opinion :)
The father didn’t care about his daughter. He could have allowed her leave. He wanted the Police to kill both of them…he wasn’t going to allow Clesslynn to live without him but he couldn’t kill her himself. The father is totally guilty.
And the mother precipitated the whole event by calling the police. Let's tell the whole story.
@@hydrostatic8048MGTOW Pure nonsense.
No one is disputing that. Two things can be true at once. It doesn't have to be all one thing or all the other.
The sniper shouldn't have taken the shot.
@@aarondavis8943How so, Did you watch the video? It's unequivocally what happened.
@@hydrostatic8048MGTOW What do you suggest she should have done otherwise oh wise one? You ask others if they watched the video, but did YOU miss the bit where he said "if you say that again I will end you".
The father is 100 percent responsible for putting his child in this situation.
Totally agree that the father is 100% responsible for putting his daughter in the situation, but the officer who fired at a silhouette that he couldn't be 100% certain wasn't the child bears some responsibility for her death.
Exactly. The mother was 100% correct trying to flee without her child...
The fact that the mother let the child live with the father at all is questionable af, but her trying to flee in this situation was understandable.
Yep, people tend to forget that.
It’s an incorrect logic. Would you say the same thing if the cops simply tossed a grenade through the window? While the father is mostly to blame, he did not shoot his daughter, the cop who played eeny meeny miney moe with a high power rifle did.
Dude could afford an arsenal, but couldn't afford a real home for his kid...
He also could have let his daughter leave the trailer at anytime before or during the shootout. His demands about having his sister come to get her was simply a way of delaying.
Eli murdered his own daughter. He just used a cop to do it.
So it's 9:25 PM and he removed the night vision because " the target was fairly well illuminated " . I would like to reenact that . Maybe there was some light in the camper . However , given the distance and time , I beg to differ . Most police routinely lie on their reports AND get away with it - even if caught . What if they took cover and waited it out ? He has to sleep sometime . There is always tear gas , etc.
God take the soul of this little girl and her mother home 😢
You're on UA-cam...
“We investigated ourselves and we did nothing wrong” shocker.
Trite
The Gestapo used to do exactly the same thing!
@@ilynx2008omg 😱😱😱 their leader also used toilet paper!!!
Most of the time, it's true. On a few occasions, there's a coverup.
US police departments get trained by Israeli Army and it really shows
Sniper 1 has imprisoned himself by living with the fact he killed a 2 year old child, probably the same age as his daughter if he has a kid. A prison without walls.
Doubtful since he’s still a cop. Any person who isn’t a narcissistic asshole would have left law enforcement or any profession involving firearms. But then again 43% are wife beaters so makes sense.
He still belongs inside a prison WiTH walls
eh this is a really hard cope lol. he's probably a sociopath and in reality it probably won't affect him long term. life isn't a movie where the bad guy always loses.
Yeah right he probably sleeps like a baby under a blue line flag blanket
Why do you know him?
Thank you Dr Todd Grande for your analysis..
I wish I never clicked on this, so fucking tragic and disturbing
Yeah, I stopped 3 minutes in when I really read the title.
Definitely guilty of negligent homicide but cops are never held accountable unless they are not the complexion of protection.
REALLY 🤯🤯🤯
Me too. 😢😢
The most important rule for a sniper is they “must be absolutely sure of the identity” of any target. That directive is on page one of the FBI’s Advance Rifle Training manual
OK, but theyre Americans and Americans have an obsession with killing people so I don’t think any amount of rules are going to change a cultural problem.
Shameful cop.
Absolutely, But, without seeing what Sniper One saw, I cannot judge, he, may have been 100% sure, in his mind, that the target was the man, it's called human error, happens all the time, still just an awful, tragic event.
He was absolutely sure though . That’s the thing. Just like how people having delusions are absolutely sure that what they are seeing is real. Reality is subjective ! Scary! He shouldn’t be working anymore.
It wasn't the cops fault. It was her father's fault.
How do you confuse a childs head for a mans torso? You dont think its odd that this torso doesnt have a head on top and arms coming out of it? 🤦
This is horrendous…
The police investigated themselves and determined that this murder was justified.
The fault ultimately lies with her insane father. The dangerous situated was created entirely by him
Basic firearm safety- know your target and what's beyond it before firing. It's a rule all responsible, law abiding firearm owners are expected to follow, even in self defense situations. Had he followed those basic rules, that child would likely still be here. If someone kicks my door open at 3am, I fire, miss and happen to hit a neighbor, I'm responsible for every round and that's fair imo. What I'm sick of is this double standard for the blue line gang where they get to just spray and pray with zero responsibility! What ever happened to holding the police to a *HIGHER* standard?!? I keep hearing that they're the ones with all this great training and on the extreme end, we've got people saying that they should be the only people who can even carry a firearm, shouldn't those people who are supposed to be the experts also be more accountable when they make fatal errors?
100%
F*ring at a silhouette in a window is no different than a hunter f*ringinto a bush because he heard a rustling.
It's obvious he didn't intend to hit the kid, but he's still responsible for the shot he took at a target he wasn't sure about.
i dunno...i get the feeling that guy wasn't gonna let his kid live. he used her as a shield. either way, the shoot was a bad call...but i wasn't there getting fired at
Would you hold the military in a firefight or other situation to the same shooting standards? Responsible for each bullet? No "casualties of war" ? Always know your target?
Police did a remarkable job in holding off for hours, trying to get the girl out safe and the father to give up.
The dad had his own agenda.
The police are not and can't be perfect in everything Everytime. That is an absurd expectation. No matter how good they train, they can't account for all the variables ... especially by a crazy madman with weapons of unknown quantity and type... and evil enough to use his toddler as a snipers target instead of himself.
@@sandrachebomembers of the military are absolutely held accountable for mistakes that kill civilians.
That poor, sweet child. Such a terrible tragedy.
It sounds like Eli was using his daughter as a human shield
Hamas tactics
100% piece of crap.
Hostage, not human shield. He was not holding the girl infront of him at any point as a barrier against police. The child was walking freely inside the camper. Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.
@Hathur
You are misunderstanding the phrase "human shield" with its literal origins. Google the phrase and learn. The phrase can be used to indicate any physical hostage (even if they dont know they are a hostage) if it prevents immediate direct assault by law enforcement.
@@samhilton4173 This is a law enforcement matter. I have 2 family members who are LEOs, they say "human shield", to police, means a VERY different thing than "hostage". "Human shield" is the most dire form of hostage as it means police likely cannot shoot without a marksman present as the suspect is holding a person between them and police. A hostage on the other hand is just someone being prevented from leaving safely or under threat of violence if they try to leave, but are not actively held between the police and suspect.
US army Firearms training taught me: Never pull the trigger until you have a clear sight picture. Another thing I learned in the army is: When you/people are getting shot at, it's hard to stay calm and focused. Heartfelt condolences to the family. So, so sad.
Armchair warrior school taught me that everyone thinks they would react perfectly in every situation
@@wmpx34and the school of Monday Morning Quarterbacking.
I hear and respect what your comment says, but unfortunately, these factors would not apply to a well hidden, out of the way sniper whose job description includes keeping a cool and calm demeanor.
Call of Duty taught me to t-bag downed opponents.
Think about it, that poor baby was so used to her father's outbursts that she was just casually standing on the couch while her dad was firing his gun off. 🥺🥺 Hopefully her and her mommy are together now and safe 🙏🏻🕊🤍
The little girl died. Mom did not. So yeah...
2:42 “Eli used a handgun to shoot Taylor twice - once in the head, and once in the neck. Taylor did not survive.” 💔
There is exactly one guilty party in this situation. That animal was firing at the police and nearby homes with his daughter in the line of fire, then let her (or forced her to) look out of a window knowing the windows were targeted. One guilty party.
People must understand the criminal has no obligation to decency; however, law enforcement does. Never shoot at lights, shadows, noises etc. His assessment was flat out wrong😮
But a father is obligated to not put his daughter in danger. Fathers fault 100%.
The criminal has 100% obligation to decency. Ignoring that obligation is what makes them the criminal.
That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.
I think he is saying that it is ludicrous to assume this criminal will act rationally after he essentially just threw his entire life away. Nothing to lose. His criminal actions are going to be criminal and irrational in this situation. The bar for the sniper is not anywhere near as low as that and is held to a certain standard to protect the innocent at all cost. He saw something and essentially tossed a coin and hoped he was right. That is not how you protect the innocent. Think about context when reading text and don't just take it literally because he could have typed the wrong word which changes the entire tone of the text. I mean, only if you believe that "People make mistakes", right?
If the father had cooperated with the police, he, his wife and daughter would still be alive.
Exactly!!
His daughter didn’t have a choice, the shooter did.
Yeah, right 🙄
Two different people can both cooperate with inappropriate behavior to kill someone. It is not either/or
The same thing could be said if she didn't call the police to begin with.
This whole situation makes me so sad.
Let me get this straight. The police are surprised that people are upset because he shot an innocent two-year-old in the head and they’re justification for this is that those same people would not be upset if he had hit The actual target? Yeah no kidding guys. As yet another member of the public at large, who doesn’t want to be shot to death by the police, I would appreciate it if you could actually see an identify your target.
The police situation with few exceptions (😊 Houston p.d is reliable and correct mostly), is a disgusting joke in that part of the U.S.
The sniper did not properly identify his target as per the orders he was given. He is guilty of involuntary manslaughter. He was not ordered to fire at a silhouette.
The windows are tinted dark on the RV all you can see is a shadow or outline of anything inside
@@Bigstooler0. So why is he shooting then?!
@@Bigstooler0 Do not shoot at them if you are a snuper. Identify your target beyond all doubt.
@@Bigstooler0 if the windows are tinted, and you're only authorized to shoot a specific person, then basic logic dictates you aren't authorized to fire at all then. Too bad, sit tight until/if you can identify.
@@Bigstooler0 did you actually thought that was a good defense?
Dr. Grande, you didn't comment on the police refusal to allow the sister to collect the child when the perpetrator repeatedly sought to implement this safety measure for his daughter. The sister was willing to assume all risks; perhaps she should have been allowed to collect the child.
Perhaps. But if they permitted her to and she was killed. Your comment would place blame on police.
He was unhinged they rarely take chances to place someone else in danger.
When you are dealing with imminent danger, threats, violence and potential death of a two year old baby-EVERYTHING is negotiable!! I don’t care what the SWAT manual says! This is a two year old angel! Sister should have been allowed to accept this risk for her helpless niece ClessLynn. Any of us would have risked the same for our own family. The father wanted her out of the camper and away from the chaos so he could finish his battle and ultimately his life with death by LE and know she was safe. We know this to be true because of his actions after he witnessed his daughter’s death, he said “You shot my daughter””I love you” and immediately turned his weapon on himself. He was never going to hurt his daughter. Poor little soul may she rest in eternal peace.
@@harryb2545 Nope. If he actually loved his daughter, he would have let the daughter walk out first. Or better yet, he would walk out first. He loved his ego more or was on a drug-trip. Police made the right choice by not letting the sister in.
This was a completely avoidable tragedy. De-escalation of the initial domestic violence call would have been a wiser move. RIP Clesslynn. Apparently, no one in your short life had your best interests at heart.
I wonder if the dad purposely put her up high. Sad all around
He could have also had his daughter in his arms with his back to the window. It was essentially a hostage situation, especially since the commander wouldn't allow the aunt to rescue the child. Sniper knew that there was a young daughter essentially being held hostage and was under orders, and a moral obligation, to make damn sure of daughter's safety.
I can’t imagine how that shooter felt after that mistake… I’d be torn apart indefinently
These cops don’t care
@@persephoneszeliga when you generalize like that “these cops”.. you begin to aid to the problem man, that’s not a smart way look at it imo. It pays to look at situations individually not as a whole. Especially given the situation the officer was in.
@@hvacmaniac5751 well until you’ve walked on my shoes, your opinion is moot
@@persephoneszeligahe's right, that's bigotry.
@@persephoneszeliga I had no idea UA-cam gave you the highest honour of only having your opinion heard, I am sorry
The issue is not the mistake itself, it's the double standard for police officers where they aren't held accountable for things a non-officer would be.
How could that mother stand to be apart from such a darling little daughter? How could she hand custody to the father with mental problems? That poor baby.
Maybe the Court gave custody to the father. We don't know the circumstances around why he had her.
Don’t blame the victim.
It’s hard to leave an abusive relationship, often fatal.
it could be the courts forced her, or else she was as unfit as he was.
She was a piece of crap, women are not actually made of candy.
I recently saw police helicopter footage of a chase and shooting. A man had killed his wife and taken his daughter and ended up trapped between about 7 patrol cars on the highway. He started shooting at the cops and they all returned fire from two sides. The 15 yr old girl ran out of the car and while one officer told her to come to them the officers on the other side shot her multiple times, killing her. There were roubds flying everywhere with zero thought given to the girl being in the car, which they knewabout before even finding the car.
@user-si4ly9mn7v oh, thanks
Baxter Springs is a beautiful little town. I don't remember hearing this story
It's my favorite town,I live in the edge of Galena but I'm in Baxter constantly my GMA was from there
@@BillieYoung-tl5qr chetopa is pretty too.
With or without criminal charges, his life has changed dramatically for ever. I feel so bad for him. I hope he finds peace
How is it that apparently Eli had full custody of the little girl, Clesslyn. His wife knew how unhinged he was & so should never have left her alone with Eli. What a horrifying, tragic event.
I agree with you on the silhouette part. With todays scopes he should have seen what he was firing at
The zoom, the scenario, are there trees ad bushes in the way, windows covered in crap, sometimes it's just not so straightforward
Oh my God… There are no words for this horrific event.
Tragic all the way around! RIP beautiful little girl💔💔💔
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande!
I also agree that, although Sniper 1 may indeed have acted recklessly, there are just too many exculpatory factors involved to say, beyond a reasonable doubt, that I honestly believe this officer should have been convicted of manslaughter.
I would however be in favor of a suspension, not to mention a thorough re-training. This was after all an incredibly tragic mistake that could have been avoided, had the officer in question been more diligent in the task of taking out a violent madman.
Sincere condolences to the family of little Clesslynn and her mother Taylor. 💐✝💐
Everyone criticizing the sniper: Don’t forget: Eli had talked about killing his own daughter… there was a lot of pressure on the sniper. He made a mistake. I don’t think he should be held criminally liable since there very obviously was no intent to hurt an innocent child. I do blame the dumbass who made the decision not to let the sister go in and defuse the situation...
No intent but he did. Drunk drivers don't have intent to kill kids either but they do. If anything shouldn't a drunk driver be held less responsible than this guy, considering sniper 1 was sober and trained?
Are you dump?
Sniper HAD the intent to kill. And from the safety of his 300'+ distance. And in the dark. And he was/had been the SWAT Team Captain? He gets a break because he wasn't careful? 'Oops. My bad.'
He shot a 2 year old in the head.
So the father wanted to kill his daughter and the sniper decided to kill the girl himself? Great logic dude
The sniper violated one of the most important rules of ”know what you are shooting at.” He didn’t know, he guessed. That imho is reckless and if my husband or I had done the same thing we would have been prosecuted.
Dirt bag killed himself, his wife and created the circumstances that lead to the death of his daughter. The fact that someone received OVER a million dollars for the unintentional (on the part of Sniper 1) death of a 2 year old is RIDICULOUS!!!!!
And he had the audacity to cry out that he loved his daughter. He was only in love with his own ego. His lack of love for his family created this. no guts whatsoever. No humility at all.
Awe. This one was hard to hear. Just horrible. The whole situation. 😔
Oh my God. That poor young sniper. I can not even imagine... all that said. Dang. Wth.....ultimately I think the responsibility lies with the man putting his family in danger. But im a nobody
Lol, you're sympathizing with the reckless child killer? Whaaa?
Too many SWAT teams imho. It seems as if every agency has a SWAT Team. The original intent of these teams was to assemble a highly trained and specialized unit that could be deployed to terrorist incidents, a need that became evident after the 1972 Munich massacre. While most major cities do have specialized teams that spend their entire time training and/or responding, too many agencies have part-time SWAT teams, and some of the members do not have the opportunity for constant training. I saw this repeatedly in my 27 years in federal law enforcement.
They usually work as police officers until called up for SWAT duties as needed.
Tough call on the recklessness issue
That swat cop has PTSD for the rest of his life. Desk job from here on. Not using night vision when it is NIGHT, that’s why the city paid up. Had he used the night vision and still shut and killed, the settlement would not have taken place. Even w/night vision the person shooting see what they see. And children’s heads are almost the same size as adults’, esp. at a distance. The error still may have been made. Only one culprit here - the father using his child as a pawn and shield, the killer of the mother. Disgusting.
Just awful.
Baby girl 🙏 …. 🥺
Rest In Peace Darling.
If he has PTSD, why is he still working as a cop? More likely he never lost a night's sleep about it.
@@ohsweetmystery
If every PTSD Cop would be disqualified we would not have cops. May of them former military. Those have their PTSDs from the device.
Stages/sources of PTSD matter too. I wonder whether he/she is allowed a weapon.
Night vision doesn't work the way you appear to believe. Remember, the interior lights were on in the camper.
She managed to trick the sniper by standing on the couch.
13:15 oh… Now it makes sense! He himself told his daughter to stand up on the couch, on purpose, to trick them. It otherwise makes no sense she’s be standing there.
I went through hunter safety course when I was around 11, the first things they teach you are never point at what you don’t intend to shoot and always know what you are shooting. I don’t think he should have been tried, it was a tough situation. He should only have a desk job from here on out though.
As far as this situation is concerned, every bit of it sucks.
Dude was using his daughter as a small human shield.
Hostage, not human shield. He was not holding the girl infront of him at any point as a barrier against police. The child was walking freely inside the camper. Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.
Sniper 1 is easy to identify- he's the one with the fresh Punisher tattoo.
Terriblely heartbreaking 💔 poor baby
Such a tragic situation
2 year old kids are nowhere near the height of a man's torso... so if the sniper was aiming high enough for a man's torso, how did the kid get hit in the head?
I think she was standing on a couch or something- like dr grande said.
standing on the couch in front of the window. Poor choice.
Whether standing on a couch or being held in his arms with his back to the window, both scenarios are possible that would result in death of the young child. It was essentially a hostage situation; and, the commander refused to let the child be rescued by his aunt. Sniper's negligence to consider the facts and obvious possibilities is what killed the daughter/ hostage.
Very cute little baby. Had trash for a father. I blame him. None of us would think she would be standing on furniture. Very bizarre.
Despicable to use his daughter as a shield, then they win a lawsuit. Agree with your analysis & breakdown of events & legal terms. Very sad case again😑Thanks Dr G😊💚💚
The analysis was spot on.
A terrible mistake that the officer will have to live with but I agree with Doc Grande
That’s insane the guy got away with sniping a 2 yr old child. That’s completely scary
What a surprise. 🤦♂️ Government protects government. 🤷♂️
My god. One of the worst things I’ve ever heard. The officer that shot that poor baby has a long road ahead meaning the rest of his life he will have this on his mind
Sniper acted on assumption instead of positive identification. Terrible terrible tragedy all round.
This is what the lawyer said.
“This is not a forgettable one. This is one of the worst cases I've ever been involved in,” he said. “This was a completely and totally innocent two-year-old girl who had her life taken from her in an extremely reckless action by law enforcement.”
A disgrace, just disgraceful.
Incompetence is a very very dangerous thing..And it´s a long thin blue line..!!!
what a tragic result. the extreme level of incompetence from the police did not help
My grandson turns 2 years in a couple of days so I can imagine how that little girl would have been so confused and scared. Her father is primarily to blame for all three deaths. Whilst sniper 1 made a very bad decision charging him and convicting him serves little purpose. Sniper 1 will no doubt be punishing himself with deep regret for the rest of his days. What a tragic story.
Yeah.. this whole situation is not cool.
The good guys can’t keep using the Bad Guy’s behavior for legitimacy.
An Eye for An Eye has nearly left us All at a disadvantage, I Say.” LEv