Cool power inverter install SUPERDUTY.
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2021
- In my videos I talk about my experience daily driving my 2020 F450. My truck has updated 6.7 Powerstroke with 1,050 LB-FT of Torque and 475hp. I also feature my 2019 F250 with the 6.2 L gas v8. Comment below and thanks for watching!
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I think you made a good choice by installing a 3000 watt inverter. You’re prepared for a possible power outage. You could power your refrigerator and quite a few other appliances. Your installation is clean and solid! Nice video! Thanks for posting!
The term 'gauge' references wires that are up to 1 AWG. The term 'aught' refers to wires that are 1/0 AWG or larger, with the “/0” part being called aught. For example, 1/0 AWG (0) is called “one aught” and 2/0 AWG (00) is called “two aught.
Thanks for explaining that!
"Aught" is a term that is most often, I believe, used by the British. For example, the year 1904 is expressed as 19 "aught" 4. They don't say 19 "o" 4, as "o" is a letter of the alphabet.
I read the comments, you said you had a fuse or breaker at the battery, good deal! Looks like a nice clean install! I am sure there us a reason, but since you battery is on the drivers side, i would have tried to put the inverter on the drivers side too, but under the rear seat like you did, this would have shortened your cable run, which costs you less, if you dont need as much length of 4/0 cable, and DC is prone to voltage drop the farther you go from the source!!! But with 4/0 cable should not be a problem. After a certain wattage of inverter i think they suggest a 2nd battery. Most good inverters will warn, and shut down before you run your battery down too far. I am going to look if i have a port under my back seat like your truck has, i would like to have an inverter in my truck too. I am shocked your factory inverter wont charge your laptop, i have a little cigarette lighter inverter (175 watt maybe), and it charges my laptop, but you laptop may be more power hungry?
Kudos for putting this mod in. I didn’t know this was possible. Subscribed to your project as you improve or modify this project. Thanks for sharing.
Good video!!! Straight to the point!!!
aught is zero...as per Merriam Webster. Heckuva project man! Really nicely done! I am planning on a replacement inverter install on my Ford also, but I am gonna have to stick to whatever I can fit into the same space as the original inverter. Great video!
Thanks,I learned something.I didn’t have a idea where to put my inverter (under the seat .👍
super clean install. nice.
Great job on the install, good attention to detail
THANKS. IM TRYIING!
Nice install and video! Edit: Subscribed, you really know your stuff 7:38. Pure sine wave is only way to go!
Thanks
Great video!
Aught is synonymous with zero and is usually used in the trade for wire size. Nice clean job.
That’s right…. Four aught is the proper term. You know the things you had to redo or rework, but you were learning and I’d say that’s a fantastic install job. If you didn’t confess, I’d have never known you weren’t a pro doing this all the time!
Nice looking work!
Thanks
Very nice install! I'm a retired Ford truck mechanic. I've seen some bad installs.
Awesome job, thinking about doing a somewhat similar set up. That being said, it's crazy you had issues charing the computer at batteries with the stock inverter. I have a 2019 350 powerstroke and a 2023 f250 gas & have never had issues charging tools or computers whether its 100+ or negative 50. Maybe i just got lucky 😅... coffee pots on the other hand 😒
Was looking for a video showing a 3K PSW inverter, and that brand too. Decided to put one in my Hummer H2 for back up power as a portable generator. Figured I would definitely need to ditch the factory 144amp alternator for a 400 amp one like a Mechman or equivalent. Did that about 16 years ago with my old car audio system. Inverter install looks to be the same as a beefy car audio install. Big alternator, big OFC power/ground cables, quality battery, 500 amp battery isolator, and another battery running the inverter. Maybe even throw in a battery capacitor to handle any fluctuations. Your wires being 4/0 is basically "0000". They are fatty big boy wires. Would have used those on an Orion HCCA cheater amp back in the day for sure. Might have to run double 1/0 power and ground wires for my purpose. Great looking clean install! You got one sweet ride for a work truck!
I can't wait to see your install
Yep, gonna upgrade alternator, put dual fat wires to the isolator, the battery cap, then to a auxiliary battery with inline 250amp fuse block in-between on each. Auxiliary battery stays in the back in a secured plastic case near my current sub box. Really that's the only permanent part of the install. Doing this to 2 vehicles. Everything else is going to be fully portable from my vehicle to my wife's vehicle. I'm building custom jumper cables, quick connect mil-spec battery terminals with 25ft of power cable (still gotta take measurements from driveway to inside 2 homes where I can use at different locations depending on which house loses power. The inverter will be inside the house in a location near a kitchen or the breaker box. Run whatever from inside, leaving vehicle parked outside with tire boot locks to prevent theft while it's idling. This is strictly for storms/freezes/emergency power outage or camping/fishing/hunting scenarios. I've got gas generators at my house, parent's, inlaw's, etc., But this will be on top of that. Besides my gas generators are loud as hell, announces to the neighborhood your out of power but have a gas generator for everyone to come and steal. Just want a fully portable way to help power a house during an emergency. I'm usually called into work during a hurricane down here in Corpus Christi, Texas, so I want my wife's vehicle set up to go when needed when I'm not there.
I'm 49 now, but I was installing car systems for myself and friends from 1991-2007. I've wired many multi-amp systems, swapping alternators, and installing all the extras that help the system run at 14.4v as long as possible. Just never did an inverter before. Looks like a subwoofer amp to me.😂
I too have the dual alternators on my F250 producing 397 amps. I contacted Ford asking them some tech questions and one was asking what max size inverter could be installed. They responded by saying they don't advise on size, types etc. and to calculate all the installed equipment to ensure you have enough remaining to power the inverter or something like that. They did say that they recommend no more than 50 amps to power the inverter on a vehicle with dual alternators.
I think I'm at something like 300 amps.
Beautiful job on the install! Seems like your beating yourself up over the unit. It came out great! I wouldn’t have went with anything less than a 2500 watt. 2400 watts continuous is a full 120V 20 amp outlet, that’s what ,this way you can use a heavy duty grinder , sump pump ,120v air compressor or anything else that plugs in with out fear of it not having the surge capacity. If your going to add batteries , I prefer the group 31 OTR truck batteries for running big draw items.
I wonder if this unit is 20 amp ?
@@DS-TRUCKS it’s 3000 watts it’s 25 amps
Nice job.
Thanks
I’m using power mostly when camping…in truck charging only m12 batteries or not running laptop so factory inverter is fine.
Two 6V batteries in bed so can take them out of season…3000W inverter on top of them, charging thru dc-dc hooked up to uplifter switch OR 200W solar.
Never got out of juice. Coffee maker, induction cook top for breakfast, fan in tent or notebook…love that setup.
Really don’t like idea of running crazy thick wires all around the truck.
The wire stayed outside the cab for the most part. Only popped in to tie into the inverter
Excellent work but Damn, I wish this vid came with instructions and a parts list.
Couple Oddessy Extremes AGM and a 400 Amp Mechman ( I assume you have 2 alternators, just replace the one near drivers side) Your good to go. The 4/0 wire is perfect, guys running higher wattage for subs us that or less. The inverter has overheat protection and the duty cycle will shut off if to hot. Also not sure I saw a fuse block for that 4/0 near the battery. 300 amp fuse block encase that cable get cut. You could also run 4/0 power cable from battery to alternator to replace the factory power cable.
Yes. There is a fuse at the battery.
Would be interested in seeing the factory inverter and wiring upgrade.
Great video! This is exactly what I've been looking for to provide power on my remote property. Have you looked further into using one of the upfitter switches in place of the remote?
Sure, it's possible, I haven't figured it out
Sweet
Share the vid!
Terrific installation, really nice job on the install, supper clean and professional looking. I may have missed if you mentioned, how’s the heat dissipation with such a large inverter mounted in an enclosed space under the seat?
Actually pretty good. This large inverter doesn't get really hot. When I'm pushing it hard I will open the seat.
I was thinking the same (heat dissipation)
Very very nice
Thanks!
Did you consider installing it in a weather guard tool box in the bed and using soow or sjo wire to bring some outlets into the cab and install plugs after your drill a small 3/8 hole through the floor plug and add a grommet? This way you can still have the underwear storage and have extensions leads under the seat for hook up without actually having that refrigerator sized inverter under the seat. That remote wire look like phone wire if I was seeing it correct which makes me think it’s a signal only and not for load
That's not a bad idea
4/0 welding wire can handle a lot of amps and heat. For the distance you ran the wire you have over built it which is how I do things lol..
The 12 volt side calls for heavy wire.
In these systems the higher the voltage the thinner the wire and longer distance can run. On 12 volt side thicker wire is needed.
Is there a way to install a separate power switch at the dash, like a toggle switch? How many amps would it need to be rated for and how would the wiring run?
This inverter has a remote on off switch. It needs to have a wire running to it. An aftermarket on off toggle switch? Probably not.
Looks good, but if you want any input…….
The manual for the inverter specs 10” clearance on all sides. It realistic but you’re likely getting hot if you run it with the seat down.
- really wold be better to separate the wires coming off the battery better. That positive we’re going forward crosses very close to the negative cable below it.
How has it been working out?
I looked at the 2000 and 3000 and decided to go with the 1000 for my truck bed (covered) to keep the wires to 2 AWG for a 15 ft run at up to 160amps peak
It's worked really good. But I usually use 35 - 50 percent capacity so it's good a dissipating heat. If I push it closer to it's capacity I open up the seat and keep an eye on Things. It still runs pretty cool No matter what I throw in it.
@@DS-TRUCKS sounds great . Also looked like you were missing the covers on the 12v dc terminals on the back of the inverter. I like to always keep terminals cover so you don’t get an arc from a stray tool or tent stake etc that could bridge them and get full battery voltage.
Installing a 1000w renogy inverter in my truck bed to supplement solar and charge bikes and 2400w battery while we drive.
How much length of wire did you end up needing? I’m trying to install one on my 350
Idk. I baught 20 ft
Why did you choose to connect to the driver side battery? Conmecting to the passenger side would have shortened the cable run and avoided some issues.
Plow was already on that battery.
@@DS-TRUCKS Good Reason! Thanks for the reply.
Did you happen to look at just using the factory wiring and modding that to connect to a bigger inverter? Seems like since you had to do wiring anyway it might have been worth doing it that way so you could use it in all your factory plug in locations. Great job either way!
Factory wireless way to thin.
I have a question for everyone, shouldn't the ground be as short as possible? So run it to the frame directly?
Yes. I felt like the ground to the frame wasn't heavy enough.
Usually yes you ground to frame. However many cars and trucks, from factory don’t have the best grounding, especially when installing heavy amperage aftermarket equipment. It’s not uncommon for installers to use whichever way provided a better ground(less voltage drop/resistance) so if running a ground to the battery proves less voltage drop, run it.. if it doesn’t, waste of wire and just ground it to body/frame.
What is that behind the rear seat metal plate for.?
Looking at your project not an electrician here but need to upgrade that inverter onboard my f250
On the back of the passenger seat?
@@DS-TRUCKS yes that one
Why marine grade vs welding grade? Is the sheathing just more durable?
More weather resistant
Did you decide to connect it to your upfitter switch?
I did not.
I have a correction, after seeing more of the video I would say you are using 4 awg.again. AWG is abbreviation guage.
That seems to be much larger than 4awg (4gauge) . 4/0 (4 ought, aut- no correct spelling for this) would be the correct size
I have a feeling that the problem with your laptop wasn’t the wattage of your oem inverter, that oem inverter was likely a modified sine wave which sensitive electronics don’t like. I assume your new inverter is a pure sine wave, which the laptop should be happy with.
Maybe 🤔
You should research how to size wire. Basic ohms law. Take your watts (3,000 in your case) , divide by your voltage (12v) and this will give you your amps which is 250amps. From there you can look up wire size charts and select the type of wire and this will tell you your size. There are different types and temperature ratings of wire. Assuming you use a copper 125degree C wire you could have gotten way with installing a number 2AWG or number 1AWG conductor instead of using massive 4/0 AWG
At 12 volts the heavier wire is recommended. At 24 or 48 volts Thinner wires can be used.
Curious as to why you think this is a "very complicated project". Which part did you find "very complicated"?
My first time messing with power inverters. Having such a high capacity on a 12 volt system. Recommended wiring sizes with distances from the battery. Once installed the system is relatively simple.
Does this work with helping your truck on a cold start?
No
@@DS-TRUCKS can I use this to somehow transfer power to my heater block? I have a 97’ f250 diesel that I take to work but I need to leave it in a parking lot during work so I don’t have somewhere to leave it plugged in. I got a 7.3l powerstroke and it’s starting to cool down
@@PapaRabii your batteries would be dead by the time you got back to it
May have been better to run a short ground to the seat belt hold down bolt?
Maybe
As an electrician it would be called 4 ott.
Thanks!
The 9.99 everstart 100watt inverter will charge milwaukees and the laptop its soo weird
The big Milwaukee batteries?
It will do 1 quick charger or a laptop over night it wont kill your batteries either. Only a single outlet 120 watt evertstart value.
4 gauge
Looks like 0 gage to me
4/0
Aught = Zero