JOKER 2: Folie a Deux | Teaser Trailer REACTION!
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Just a few days after my video abandoning all hope, the teaser for JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX is officially out! Watch it with me for my reaction.
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You tried reallllly hard to hate this didn't ya..
Right this video was so hard to watch…
I'm hyped for this, but tbh it's nice to find at least someone who wasn't super into it. Lol.
She just wants attention thats why she makes these garbage vids safly she gets it
It is trash tho a musical ? Like who the heck wanna watch a musical
@@fabolousjada5070 Everyone except you
This is one of the strangest concepts for a sequel I've ever heard. But we either have to grant filmmakers creative risks or we need to stop complaining about how everything is samey and too safe and made for everyone. It might be a disaster but I'd rather a disaster than something boring.
Love that take.
I feel like the director made this a musical on purpose for the studio greedily wanting a sequel so fast idk maybe I’m on to something maybe not lol
It's obviously taking place mostly in his imagination, mntl illnss, so it won't be linear. Probably using musical therapy as catalyst for healing him but he will most likely find a partner in crime.
Agreed 🤝
Yeah, but if you pay any attention to this channel, at all, you know that she makes her living off of being the "hot" chick who says constantly negative things about any concept she thinks the angry neckbeard crowd will hate. There's no honesty in her approach at all, it's just appealing to the lowest of the low.
I feel like a lot of people just didn't realize that the music was all going to be in their heads, but they're starting to get that now. In the first film, Joker often imagined the way a crowd would react and imagined himself on stage frequently, it makes sense that if he met someone with a shared madness, that that person would influence his delusions. My suspicion has always been that the "music" is Harley's version of what "the stand up" was to Arthur in the first film.
I got the same impression, they’re showing us Joker’s mind/thoughts 👍🏼
Oh my God finally someone gets it, it just feels like common sense that the majority of the musical numbers were gonna be in their heads. Also, I don’t get why people are upset that she’s a patient not a psychiatrist, since when the fuck do people get pissed off at original storytelling
@sethl3512 Yeah, I feel the same way. They will cause wreckage, in the real world, but they will hallucinate the musical/WTF parts in their heads. This sequel might be something not seen before. I'm intrigued.
@sethl3512 Specially in an Elseworlds story
Exactly my thought.
People watch a 2-minute trailer and already form a complete opinion about the film, we really have a lot of ''genius critics'' on the sofas at home.
exactly, they act like they've read the script.
Agreed. A lot of hate from jus a trailer for alot of coming soon films. Couch movie critics is perfect.😂
This chick probably felt smart 🤦
That's why I despise modern film critics...most of them graduated from the school of cinema sins. If it's not a heroes journey, 3 act, like what your 9th grade film studies said constitutes "good filmmaking" it gets beat into the ground. They claim to want original and get mad when films do original things.
The literal entire point of a trailer is to get you interested in the movie, you aren't obligated to love every movie or every trailer.
I don't know anyone who watched the original Joker who also said "It was good but what it really needed was Lady Gaga to co-star and sing throughout the whole movie!".
“If, tomorrow, I tell fans there will be a Batman trilogy set in the real world with no sci-fi, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan”. But when I say that ONE little movie about a psychopathic, schizophrenic clown will feature some songs in it, well then everyone loses their minds!”
Well played 😄
🤣😂😂
You win comment of the day 😂
Fun fact: This is Joaquin Phoenix’s first film sequel ever. He’s expressed in the past that he doesn’t feel compelled to do sequels or reprise roles based on box numbers so hopefully that’s indicative to the script being a story worth telling.
He is like Denzel Washington or Robert De niro in that regard. A true Artist.
@@MagMar-kv9ne LOL, De Niro has been mostly boring as an actor for over 25 years and most of his movies in that timeframe have been trash. Denzel hasn't had as much of a drop off, but still a lot of duds in recent years.
@@EddieHenderson92 That is not my point....i was saying, they are true artists, I was not talking about the merits of the whole movies they are in...movies that are the responsibility of directors, writers, producers those artists have no control of or very limited control of. You were riding into the wrong sunset and you did not even notice it.
@@MagMar-kv9ne Delusional. There's nothing wrong with franchises and sequels. He's just gonna do another role in place of a sequel. Might as well fall in love with the role and expand on the character than do some boring indie drama that no one will ever watch.
Absolutely, have you seen a Phoenix picture not worth seeing?
I don’t get why people are mad that Harley is a patient and not a psychiatrist. Like in the first joker movie we were given a pretty original take on the joker character, so why did people not expect an original take on Harley? Also, when is everyone going to realize that most of the musical numbers in this movie will be in their heads
And who says she wasn’t? They might even have a line in the beginning where a doctor says, “Poor girl, she was in graduate school to be a psychiatrist and went crazy during her internship.”
@@jasonavery I don’t really understand what you’re trying to get at? Whether that would be the case or not, she’s still a patient in the movie.
@@sethl3512 exactly, but the reactor said she was mad that Harley isn’t a psychiatrist and she goes through the normal story of being corrupted by the Joker. I’m saying, who said she doesn’t? Maybe this is 5 years after the events of “Joker” (2019) and she was a psychiatrist or intern in grad school when Joker was locked up. She turned, got put in Arkham. So now, we are just seeing it from where she’s locked up. That’s where the movie starts. Or, maybe she is just a patient and they changed the backstory. My point is, we don’t know until we see it. And the reactor was just jumping to conclusions.
@@sethl3512 It's crazy how people already made up their minds about this movie after watching just one trailer. Who knows what her background will be that led her to become a patient.
This is not an original take on the joker. It’s adapted from “One Bad Day”.
I don’t understand why you were shocked that they deviated from Harley’s origin story? They changed the Joker origin story too so this makes sense. Also I think people who are skeptical about this being a musical didnt really understand the first film which (as the people who worked on it said) music played a heavy role. This makes sense, I think you just didn’t get the first film.
The funniest thing of all, that wasn’t Joker’s origin story.
He’s just telling a “story” to the psychiatrist and then killed her that the end to escape, so we still don’t have origin story for this Joker.
It’s classic Joker telling different stories to people so they would feel bad for him but when you realized he’s making it up, it’s already too late.
It feels like they’re gonna do the same thing again but from Harley’s perspective.
Never understood the backlash to the musical idea. With sequences in the first movie taking place in his head… that makes perfect sense.
Plus the Joker has ties to music and dancing in the comics.
Because tv taught people that musical are lame and only think of specific musicals. So they just never get over it.
Because people nowadays don't have think outside the box mindsets. Imagine if Nolan listened to the naysayers who were pissed about the casting of Ledger.
It was never about it not making sense. it was about the viewer experience. I have no problem with musical MOVIES specifically but most didn't come to Joker for that.
@@killingjoke535 Grow up dude. Its nothing like that. Actors have range. Musicals are not everyone's taste and certainly not why people come to see a Joker movie. I have no problem with musicals and this looks good but I was skeptical.
Cinemaphtography (was that right?)was perfect. Every short just looks like a screenshot. And the last seen will no doubt be iconic.
It was very pretty! And the set pieces were fabulous.
@@snarkyjay sounding like a snarky hater jay lol
"Cinematography" Good try, though
@@nedshellnack4080 ah thanks.
@@snarkyjay this movie gonna do records
I think the musical is going to all be in their head.
That would be cool.
I see that and am now reminded of the episode of House, when Cuddy is going under the knife and that turns into a mind trip musical.
Well yeah that’s kind of obvious..
of course it is. the musical aspect was weird to me at first but after seeing the picture I’m completely on board. there’s the La La Land shot that transitions into them dancing in the street, which is what’s actually happening so itMs obvious any musical dancing aspects are in their collective heads. it’s prob the first time a musical makes story sense to be a musical
@@basketcase297 I'm confused how so many people can't figure this out in 20 seconds. It's pretty obvious.
My favorite shots from the trailer are
1. Lipstick 💄 on the glass
2. The umbrellas ☔️
3. Harley smearing on a smile
Those were cool! I liked the rooftop scene, that was neat.
@@snarkyjay and if you’re still on the fence as to whether or not the themes of Joker🃏 & musical can work, it has worked before in the past all be it briefly in the BTAS episode Christmas with the joker. Enjoy
The lipstick part was really good
There were a lot of great shots shown in the trailer!
I like when harley mimicked shooting at her brain. Who hasn't done that at some point in life? 😂
The last shot of the trailer confirms Harley is still his shrink in this movie, unlike what people think she's a patient.
4:08 This is an ELSEWORLDS. By nature they are not meant to be a copy-and-paste of the traditional mythos.
And who cares anyway, one of the reasons superhero movies are BORING nowadays is because we cant change a thing because "its not like that in the comics". DAMN I want new ideas, this is PERFECT
That opening shot of Joker sitting in the Spotlight was perfect!
Yes! I loved the light coming through the smoke like that. Super cool.
So was the last shot, I clapped
@@snarkyjay your awesome
@@snarkyjaywhat up Jay. I love Joaquin Phoenix as The Joker. I don't think Lady Gaga is wooden as Harley Quinn. I'm so looking forward to check the movie out.
It seems there was a heavy focus on making “cool shots”. I’d much prefer a good movie.
Yep, some of the cinematography definitely reminds me of Scorsese's musical 'New York, New York'. Makes sense, since the first Joker was so heavily inspired by Scorsese's 'Taxi Driver', and 'King of Comedy'. Also, I'm guessing the musical numbers are in his head, like when he and Harley in dress ware flips to them in asylum clothes in the parking lot.
That's a good observation!
It's not a musical. Todd Phillips revealed it yesterday. He said it doesn't steer far from the original but that music is an essential element.
Looks like the musical numbers are going to be hallucinations. I'm with it. Pump up the crazy.
It does give off that vibe!
Just an FYI: this is not an original take on the joker. It’s adapted from the graphic novel “One Bad Day” where the premise is that we’re all just one bad day away from becoming a villain. The jokers character in that comic was a normal guy with a family but he’s a failed comedian and one day he gets boo-ed off stage his kid is embarrassed by him and his wife hates him. He can’t pay the bills and everything falls apart so he snaps.
Honestly it looks pretty damn good and I get the concept behind it
Valid!
Story is different from the comics because you have to take this film as an elseworld
Yeah, not all the comic stories are from the same universe.
It looks promising
It certainly doesn't look as bad as I anticipated!
There is a possibility, that we are still in Arthur's head, when we're seeing Harley. Possibly the movie opens with her being his doctor, and he creates the rest through his fascination with her, setting up the end or next chapter.
Remember Harley was talking to Fleck from the other side of the glass making her the probable psychiatrist
Snarky Jay, also remember keep this in mind just because they “changed” Harley Quinn’s backstory. Remember where a lot of the first movie story takes place in the mind of Arthur. So the difference of the backstory could be one of the things that’s his mind is playing tricks on him.
That's actually a great point!
@@snarkyjay it’s understandable a lot of people forgot that, or just don’t think about it deeper in the moment. Because for some people it’s such a turn from what they were expecting. And some people just watched a movie once.
Arthur Fleck is not in the comics. He is an interpretation so not following one particular comic storyline. Harley Quinn can be anything in this version, his psychiatrist, a fellow patient or just a figment of his imagination.
@@JoshuaMartian-go3tm who said any of those weren’t a possibility . You didn’t get that by his mind playing tricks with him. But you’re probably not responding me to me. And you’re probably putting information out there so my apologies for coming off so rough.
This entire thing is literally an "Elseworlds" equivalent where it's not meant to be cannon. She knows that, but she also knows that crapping all over anything that is slightly different than the norm will get her views from the sad, lonely neckbeards that hate everything and live to complain.
At this point, let's not nit-pick. Expect different origin stories for high-profile characters.
I think it looks great, far more engaging and creative than anything the MCU could possibly produce.
Well, comparing it to the MCU... that's not saying much.
@@snarkyjay Touché
@@snarkyjaytell me you have low IQ without telling you have one
@snarkyjay the MCU is the definition of 'Low bar' at this point 😏
Facts, John! Much more excited for this than Deadpool 3. Don't @me 🤣
I think to take issue with Harley’s origin change is silly. Considering this version like too many of the Joker haven’t been thrown in a vat of chemicals.
I am still excited. If the rug is pulled out from me, then I will clap for them because they got me lmao
She is probably still a doctor, that’s why he sees her like he kinda recognize her, cause she was probably his psychologist at some point , then she goes insane and they get together later
Maybe the musical parts will be inside the jokers head and it wont be corny. Remember in the boys black noir saw the cartoons and music played?
I think that’s what they hinted at with the dancing part, her hair was in a perfect updo and in reality she just had a sloppy bun and they were just dancing in the street
@Luvvserena111 hopefully they use send in the clowns by frank Sinatra haha
Yeha like wonka😂 that they said would be good
I think there are going to be a bunch of people who go into theaters not realizing it’s a musical. That’s actually pretty funny.
That happened with Sweeney Todd.
People are seriously missing the idea regarding it being "musical". It's literally titled after SHARED DELUSION. The music isn't the point, it's a tool to drive home this pseudo therapeutic nature of this relationship. There will be music, probably a lot of it, but I doubt it's going to be sing songy like people automatically assume.
Looks as dark as the first Joker movie. This should be as big as the first one.
Harley is probably still a psychiatrist if you watch the end of the trailer. I feel like she’s either acting like a patient in the other scenes in order to get into Jokers mind, or the scenes where she’s a patient is all in Jokers head
I’m hyped now, it seems like a good way to portray their insanity through music and also giving two different words, an dreamlike and reality at the same time.
The best part it's that they don't follow the same predictable comic story, they created a new universe with unexpected origins. I mean I wouldn't love to go to the movie theatre knowing what the plot is about, knowing how Harley became insane and their relationship. Plus I can't imagine any other actress more than Gaga as talented as her to do the acting and singing part.
No way we don’t get a psychopathic rendition of Singing In the Rain, right?
Or Bad Romance and Love Game...
With Joker it would be Singing in the Pain
I’m still confused as to why people are upset that there will be musical elements (won’t be a full musical) when in the source material for Harley Quinn (First introduced in BTAS) Harley & Joker regularly broke into musical numbers. Also, the first Joker movie had already introduced musical dance sequences and the film makers said this film is an expansion of that.
I oddly enough consider the impromptu song and dance of the Wall Street thug singing Send in the Clowns part of the musical themes. When Arthur gets the power, he sings and dances like that guy when he had the power. I also think of A Clockwork Orange homage.
Because most dont like musicals 😅 casual’s definitely don’t like it and casuals make up ticket sales
Has it already been 5 years since that movie came out?! Holy shit
People deciding whether they’re going to like something without even seeing it will never make sense..
No, I can make that decision. I don't want to see a musical. I don't want to see Lady Gaga act again. I'm not basing that decision off of never seeing her act. I've seen enough. The first one made $1b. How much do you think a Joker karaoke movie will make?
@@ericchism4855 The Joker and Harley Quinn being theatrical, I agree it makes no sense…..
You haven’t seen the acting in this movie, you haven’t seen this musical. It defeats the whole point of consuming entertainment to decide to not like something before even viewing it. Lighten up and actually give something a chance first.
Let's give it a chance Jay, I'm hopeful. 😊
The first film had us sympathize with Arthur, even after the horrible things he did. So seeing him dancing happily with Harley seems kinda wholesome. I'm feeling a little more optimistic about this film based on what I've seen so far.
Let's revisit this reaction once the film releases and see if it ages well....
Seems like all the live action movies version of Harley Quinn intro to the character is different from the original version.
I can see the musical numbers being a part of Arthur’s bouts with fantasy. The first movie walked that very fine line between delusion and reality. Arthur’s delusion was always a happy place for him. Hell, going by Joker, Harley might not even be real.
It’s all in his mind. The first one was also different. He has a whole other life in his mind, hence the musical.
I absolutely LOVE that the scenery of his musical daydreams is in the style of Batman The Animated Series.
I think it'll be wild. There'll definitely be pushback from some people. But by and large, I think we're in safe hands.
Mark Hamill’s joker has had music parts in the animated film The killing Joke and in the Arkham Knight game as well so the idea of the joker singing isn’t new at all
The piano ding-ding music in the teaser reminds me of the song ”why do birds suddenly appear”
Also people hated the idea that Michael Keaton would be Batman back in the day.. maybe Gaga will surprise us with her performance as well.
Isn't this Joker a separate timeline from the DCU, and todd Phillips said it isn't a musical, but the music does play a critical part of the story for me? I'm in
It looks interesting. But I do 100% believe that all those musical scenes in the movie are all going to be just nothing more than daydreams in Arthur's head.
I have this weird thing where I find it impossible to have an opinion about something I've never seen. I know, right? But judging by the trailer, this flick looks to have the potential for awesomeness. It seems like the writers were psyched to continue this story.
The last scene drawing that red smile on the glass and Joaquin positioning his face along with it....that was a perfect cinema shot. ❤️💯
As long as they contrast the musical side well with the story part that we all want, I think it could work well. It looks like the musical scenes are gonna be shared visions from Joker and Harley together. Loved your confused but intrigued reactions Jay, I reacted the same when watching it alone the first time 😄❤.
I like how the trailer has us wondering if Gaga's character is an imaginary girlfriend, another sign of Arthur's further descent into madness, while also playing off qualities we associate with the "classic" Joker, only it's all in his head, making it even more tragic. In this sense, the movie is less like Martin Scorsese and more like Terry Gilliam, who, in films like "Brazil", "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen", "The Fisher King" and "The Man Who Killed Don Quixote" all featured characters who only found happiness by indulging their imaginations.
It does look a lot better than what I was expecting.
Good morning and happy Wednesday, Ms. Snarky Jay! 😄🙌💙
I’ve heard great things about the first one , but since it’s trailer made me say WTF , I’ve never seen it , & this trailer has me feeling the same 🤷🏾♂️ not because it’s a musical, but because I’ve just not been able too make myself give the first a chance…a me thing, I hope it works for everyone else…Keep Up The Great Work Jay 🖖🏾
The musical part makes sense now that I see the trailer. They are continuing the theme of not know if he is in reality or in a fantasy in his head. People seem to forget all the dancing in the first movie. I'm all in after seeing this.
Looks interesting, I’ll give it a chance
Folie a duex itself is fascinating, theres only two reported cases of it happening worldwide and one of those is from the town im from. Look into the magdelena sisters or folly a duex sisters, they were seemingly indestructible and a lot of it is on video (a police based tv show caught some of their antics).
In the first one Arthur had those daydreams of his imagined girlfriend and all that and that took up a lot of the movie. I think the musical scenes are going to be this movie’s version of those scenes. I am fully on board for that because Joker is the personification of madness and chaos. What is more chaotic and mad than imagining you’re in a romantic musical? Fully on board.
if the first movie was strongly based on taxi driver + king of comedy, this is gonna be lalaland + a star is born
At the end of the trailer I thought that was Harley on the other side of the glass. Perhaps what we’re seeing Harley is just in his imagination. The cinematography looks mint and the musical idea is perhaps not what we think it’s gonna be.
That's possible too, maybe she literally doesn't exist except in his mind. That would be super cool.
Arthur Fleck isn't in the comics, therefore not associated with Harley Quinn so The Joker and this film won't have the same storylines or backstories of either. They are adaptations, their own interpretation of the Joker, Harely, Bruce Wayne, etc.
Facts
Okay, fine, but explain this. Why are men and women being housed in the same psych facility?
@@ericchism4855 it's a psychward not a jailhouse
@@ericchism4855is Harley in Arkham real tho? She might be Arthur's therapist and just imagining her with him.
@@davidrojas8061 So not a prison mental facility? Thanks for clearing that up.
After the first movie Joaquin Phoenix said that he couldn't get this character out of his mind so it's obviously special to him and it's implausible to think that any fan of his wouldn't go see this
this is a different multiverse version of Joker to begin with, so yes this is a different backstory for Harley also.
Another amazing reaction Snarkyjay ❤❤😁😁.
I hope by the time the movie premieres, the actual pronunciation of "folie à deux" will have caught on.
Dancing in the street chaos around them perfection
Harley being a doctor and being "corrupted" gave her zero agency. It made her a victim. Victimized Harley is fucking tired. Give me badass Harley! Plus, Arthur's rizz game ain't exactly on "brainwash hot psychiatrist into servitude" levels.
I'm curious if her being an inmate is just going to be another mental relationship like he had in the previous movie. Like, she's his therapist and is trying to connect with him, getting into his mindset and in his shoes or whatever, and he sees it as her literally being in his situation as another inmate. That's just such a huge origin change to make.
I think it looks crazy and very cool, with the singing happening in their heads, it will be fantastic.
This is going to an interesting examination of psychosis through music. The cinematography looks great, the acting nuances subtle and there is chemistry.
Who would have thought that a Joker movie would give us a collaboration between Lady Gaga and Johnny Cash 😂?!
He's imagining it....remember he had that issue? I believe those la la parts are of him imagining him and her..
With regard to Harley Quinn's "origin" in this movie, without more context we cant be certain she wasn't "normal" before the events of the first Joker movie. Perhaps she is now a product of the events of "Joker" or the in between from then til now. While that does take liberties with her character, what director/writer isnt taking thise liberties anymore? So we have to wait and see.
I also love the cinematography, that last shot with Arthur moving into the joker lipstick smile was absolutely genius!
Still apprehensive about the movie as a whole though.
Fair comments, its looks like some of the musical elements will take place in there heads and going off the trailer it seemed like they where dancing whilst in the background there was carnage.
We do see Harley walking up the steps so its still possible she works there.
I think the musical part could work if it's in their heads because they're both crazy. Also I think their relationship being mutual makes sense since this version of the Joker was looking for love in the first movie
Harley uses music for her patients. Joker still corrupts her in the film.
I don't know if they changed her backstory or not. She was obviously on the other side of the glass talking to him. Maybe that first shot in this trailer when he sees her is later in the movie and he is wondering why she is there?
It’s clear you’re one of those people who would complain no matter what they did. Had they done the original comics Harley Quinn origin story, you’d be complaining that the movie will suck because they aren’t doing anything original. I bet you’re a blast to be around at parties.
I can't wait! I'm so pumped. Loved the first one. As a big DC fan, I feel very excited for this compared to what we have gotten in recent years. As far as the changing of Harley's story, we will have to wait and see as after seeing the end of the first movie, we don't know what is real and what is not in these stories since it's from the Jokers mind. One thing I really like about the 1st movie is that I think he is in Arkham Asylum the whole movie telling a big ole' lie story which is the movie that we watch.
At the part when he is speaking to the social worker asking her for more medicine close to the beginning and she asks him how has he been doing since Arkham Asylum, when he flashes back and is pounding his head at Arkham Asylum against the wall, the clock is the SAME TIME as the one at the social workers office (also at the end he's finishing the story at Arkham), so it kind of tells you there that what you are seeing isn't real which is soooooo cool. I think a lot of what we see in the sequel won't be real, in the same vein the first movie was mostly made up in his mind.
seems like a pretty significant escalation, which is what i need from all my sequels. & i loved the first one so i have no reason to doubt this one yet.
I think the musical aspect and things are gonna be like all in their head
i loved this trailer and i think gaga looked great. she’s def playing a more darker and deranged harley
I’m personally excited for the music, out of any IP this might be the only thing I could be excited to be a musical. The oldies, frank sinatra, ect. Have always been one of my favorite aesthetics of Arkham.
Loved the trailer & this is my top anticipated film for 2024. That & Terrifier 3..
I saw Joker on home media, and when I heard it was going to be a musical, I had (still have) this sense that it will fall really short of achieving the standard of which was set by it's predecessor. I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of the audience find this film to be Aesthetically pleasing, only to then realize that they saw a film which played out like a parody of itself. We'll all get a better idea of what Joker 2's deal is when the reviews come in.
this movie is going to be good if not amazing. Its going incorporate musical acts whenever his mind starts going of the rails and im all here for it specially if they can give us some mind blowing shots. Everyone was like this when the first one was announced and everyone was proven wrong when the movie came out
Looks interesting definitely going to go see it
Ill be looking at the Harley Quinn situation like i did the Batman Tell Tale Games version. Where harley was the mob boss and joker(jack as they called him) was her sidekick with promise. Or even the Gotham show where the joker of that world had his harley prove her loyalty by getting shot in the back of the head and keeping that bullet in her brain. Both reincentions of the characters like how joker in the world has that laughing condition
So you watch a trailer for a movie and already you're so quick to say its going to be terrible you don't know that for sure trailer's don't mean a thing when it comes to weather or not the movie will be good
Now Madame Web's trailer was really really bad and rightly, so was the movie.
This trailer by contrast is stunning, amazing director and Gaga & Joaquin wow.
I'm very intrigued by how little they showed. It seems most evident that the music probably takes place in his mind. But I also wouldn't be surprised if Harley is, in fact, a psychiatrist who is using music therapy while posing as a fellow inmate to gain his trust. The one scene where she's walking the stairs by herself out of Arkham Asylum seems unusual for someone who would be committed, and she isn't accompanied by Arthur at that point. Meaning she could be on her own and starting to fall for him at that point by revisiting places from his past, like the stairs.
The trailer is definetely misleading in a LOT of ways. We dont know a thing about the story (they want to break free ? But it's leading to the Jokers trial??). The trailers for the first movie were really deceiving and painted a very different story than what we got in the end
@spyegle If he was deemed criminally insane he wouldn't have a trial. But there's also the possibility that she doesn't even exist and still the chance that none of what happened in the 1st film even took place. The way the first ended with him in session, I could see them saying he's simply a mental patient who has concocted a fictional life where he is the Joker. Meanwhile, he's been in the asylum the whole time. There's a lot of ways they could go, especially if they feel a 3rd film could happen.
Hey Gorgeous- Glad your keeping an open mind about this. Agree with you about not too ga-ga for Gaga, up that lipstick on the glass shot is memorable. Highly stylized to be sure. I’m guess your not into Bollywood movies either. Great to watch along with you and hear your real time reactions. Thanks 😊
Im not a fan of musicals, but its pretty obvious from this that it will be fantasy sequences (and fantasy sequences were a big part of the first film). My guess is that the fantasy sequences this time will be in Harleys mind, we are seeing the Joker how she sees him and that will be the musical parts.
A few things to take into consideration:
Trailers are notoriously shot out of sequence, so something like the lipstick scene could be at the beginning of the movie, where she has started to treat him and now is starting to fall for him and heading towards her break, leading into what we see in the rest of the trailer.
Hate to say it, but if the only thing that makes this a "musical" is the music and you are nauseated by that then you really shouldn't like The Crow (one of my favorite movies, too!) either as the majority of the movie has an amazing, badass music soundtrack and by reason should be a "musical".
The umbrella scene voice over specifically has a guy (gonna say the one guiding the music class) mention "We use music to make us whole, to balance the fractures within ourselves". That's just one of those things where music is a part of your soul or you're just following the beats.
If you haven't already, I hope one day that you fall in love with someone, so much, that you want to hold them close, dancing and want to sing your heart to them.
I believe that all has to do with the subtitle: folie à deux - A madness shared by two.
In The Crow, Shelly and Eric were similar in that they didn't have much but they had each other and Eric's music mirrored his feelings for her.
When I watched it, when the “What the world needs love” line started to be sung, I found my self saying “What the f….” In song.
Psychosis interludes might work as the musical injection?
I like musicals in a theater, with all the instruments and acoustics. In a movie, now so much. But I think if the musical part is done well, merging the craziness in their heads (Musical) with the reality of their actions (Violence) 2:07 for example. I have high hope for this movie.