He-Man's secret that he kept, is the literal Platonic ideal of the Just Man. The man who does justice even when he receives no recognition for it. But no, that's "selfish" now.
I wonder how the other new He-Man show on Netflix will be received next year. That one is more kid aimed so maybe people will ignore it. It has He-Man in the title though lol
after Adam said _"but I died!"_ and then Teela says _"and we had to live with it."_ You know the writers in that room thought they were writing at the same level as Shakespeare. 😆 Writing something so profound but the audience just saw it as selfish. The writers of the show have the writing equivalency of self-important 12-year-olds.
"The first day we wrote that Iconic line. Well, we just spent the rest of the day high-fiving each other." - The making of She-Man/T-Ma'am Revelations.
I haven't gotten to that part. But, the way others have presented it, I think they were going for the grieving friend/girlfriend angle on that. They definitely were going that way in the first episode at least. The whole "Nobody told me" thing gets compared with the line in Invincible. But honestly? There is no comparison. Amber was 100% selfish there. If she's smart enough to figure out his identity, she's art enough to understand the risks that come with people knowing your secret identity. With Teela, she was grieving a friend and lashed out at those who didn't let her truly know him. It's a much more understandable anger if you know the history. But that's the problem. They don't show the history. This is supposed to be the reboot, you shouldn't need to have watched either series that came before in order to understand it.
@@TheCaniblcat they basically the same people. One overly praised piece of crap for people to say was great and they coast the rest of their careers off that achievement.
There was an episode of Garfield and Friends this reminds me of. A really calm, stoner sheep is asked why he's never angry. "Of course I get angry man. I just save it up for the people hurting my friends"
The weirdest thing about the way Teela acted was that in the old show, every treated her with respect. They treated her as a warrior. Because she was one. It's only in this show where they pull this whole thing where she had to prove herself and defy everyone's expectations when in the old everyone new how good she was, she didn't have to prove anything. Her becoming man at arms is completely believable because going we already know what she's capable of. And she shouldn't have been angry about the guy lying. She should have been sad because her friend sacrificed himself to save her and everyone else.
Honestly, Teela's arc feels more like a bad villain's origin story rather than a hero's journey. When facing a father grieving the death of his child her primary concern is the fact that she was lied to. When facing the hero who sacrificed himself to save the world from ruin her primary concern is the fact that he left her. She seemingly lacks any empathy and thinks the world revolve solely around her. I'd argue she gives even Skeletor a run for his money. Like Oz aptly pointed out, this could've made sense if she started out arrogant and over the course of the season learned to be humble and place others' need before her own. But she's doesn't; she's the same self-important jagg-off throughout the whole season.
I have no problem with a bad person as a protagonist. I do have a problem with all the characters acting like she's in the right when she's clearly acting like a petulant child. Also, I hate when a story uses a pre-existing property to rewrite them in the opening of a reboot.
@6theories, Exactly. But here's a coincidence: Captain Marvel (as depicted by the obnoxious Bree L.) acts in ways typical of...villains. Snarky, selfish, pushy, abusive. There are other female characters who also display the same tendencies. So... maybe this reflects something of how these script writers feel about women and their roles. UPDATE: SHAD and his guys mentioned this as well, I see. So, more people see these issues. (Even if it's only in part - the fear of her own powers thing)
At this point it feels like a hive mind is writing all these shows and movies. Each and every single one is so predictable in its agenda. You'll get some combination of a Mary Sue female with no flaws, an established male character being emasculated or a buffoon, a female character taking something from a male character and proclaiming it as her own making, male characters acting feminine, female characters acting like a douchey meat head, an unknown character being first perceived as a man later being revealed as a woman, females always being in positions of power and being infallible, and males always being in the villian role and being irredeemable. Go down the list Ghostbusters 2016, Terminator Woke Fate, Disney SW, Charlie's Angels reboot, Batwoman, James Bond, Star Trek, Dr. Who, Loki, Black Widow, Captain Marvel, HeMan and more are all comprised of those elements. It's like the powers that be are trying to get women to become douchey men in order to exact revenge against the effeminate male subordinates.
I'm gonna spend more time watching Shad bitch about Revelations than I spent actually watching Revelations. Definitely a better use of my time too, I'll wager.
I watched all of it, the thing I did enjoy was Orko. I hated him as a kid. Like Snarf in Thundercats and Jarjar in SW. But in this I actually liked him. Also I hope he's not really dead. I also liked E.lynn bonding with him. But that is about it. Everything else is just as Shad described.
I feel like it gets more flack than it deserves, but it's not awful imo. Certainly not GOOD, but tolerable. I do like that it expands more on the personal struggles of the originally flat and uninteresting supporting characters
I have consumed more content about how bad MotU: Rev is than the show is long, and I enjoyed that an order of magnitude more, so in the end, it was a success. 😜🤣🤣🤣
Supporting characters having to declare how powerful, intelligent etc. the main character is, always reminds me of Tywin saying: "Any man who must say, I am the king, is no true king." xD
@@slevinchannel7589 What "point" did they miss? Pretty sure the show was saying "That IS sexist, but since Mark is a man he's okay with being sexist". Really, there's nothing sexist about it. Also.. what does this have to do with this comment chain?
I really don't get all the changes - Teela always was a capable character in her own right. Yes sometimes she was in trouble needed saving, but so did all other characters on the show, including He-Man (well, Adam specifically). And Teela also had her moments of glory. Besides - there was always the She-ra franchise with a strong female lead. She-ra was in some regards even more capable than He-Man - he was physically stronger but did not always act in the smartest way possible, while She-ra almost as often outwitted her enemies as overcoming them with brute force. It's completely unnecessary to rewrite all the characters to fit modern ideologies.
The reason she was more capable than He-man was because she had serious training whereas Adam had none and didn't really receive until after he became He-man.
Honestly, I don't mind a bit of change here and there if there's thought and respect given to the source material. Hell, the new She Ra show that finished up about a year ago was fantastic! As a 30 year old straight man, I genuinely enjoyed it a lot. Because it preached positivity in all forms, without trying to vilify men or straight people. Plus, it did a great job of keeping characters core traits, while also adding some legitimate depth and growth throughout the series. It seems like this new He-Man show did none of that, which is a huge shame. I was really looking forward to it.
@@DeltaFidelias it had nothing to do with the original. All the characters outside Adora were idiots. Bow was obnoxious, glimmer was a brat, catra was toxic waste
@@williamcorey4700 I don't know, I liked it. I thought most of the characters made decisions that made sense for their age and experience, at least after the first season. I liked Bow. Catra being a toxic waste is kinda a major plot point throughout the entire show. And yeah, Glimmer is absolutely horrible, but at least she's 1/4th of the main cast, and not really that prevalent later on. Again, I liked that the overall moral of She-Ra was one of redemption and positivity. Even if it's a bit childish at times, at least it didn't try to subvert expectations by throwing these "childish" ideals out like many many other superhero stories of today.
@@DeltaFidelias I'm gonna let you know something. You know how they said they designed Adora the way they did because they accused people of sexualizing a kid. They were full of crap. Adora and her friends were all over 18. Also one kind act does not redeem someone. That goes for her and Hordak.
One of the best lines from the older Tick cartoon was _"No! Don't blow up the Earth, that's where I keep all my stuff!"_ 😆 So the Tick had more awareness than Teela did when they told her the universe was going to expire. 🤷♂️
It sounds like it is inspired by Artur Dent. "My planet was blown up one morning. That’s why I’m dressed like this, in my dressing gown. My planet was blown up with all my clothes in it, you see. I didn't realize I’d be coming to a party."
The important thing to remember about peoples bodies in the original, they were actual people, then they used rotoscopes for the animation. So for as much as people call the original unrealistic, they were real people
Adam: I died Teela: And we had to live with it! They made it sound like he committed suicide, not sacrifice his life to save the universe. This is what family members of people who commit suicide say. U commit Suicide and we have to live and suffer from your decision! Adam saved the Universe he was the only one that could stop the planet and the universe from being destroyed
its funny how he man protected the sword for literally hundreds of episodes as the main character...teela is the main character for what 5 episodes and the entire realm is imploding and skeletor has the sword lol
Well, technically Adam had the sword when Skeletor got it sooo Technically speaking the one who lost the sword was Adam Not to mention, its the first time I've seen a villain ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING during the ridiculously long transformation sequence cliche
@@VJK102 but in this series Adam isn't the main character, which was my original point, as soon as he man became a side character and the limelight was given to the other characters literally everything fell apart
@@VJK102 as was yours, don't get me wrong I do appreciate the effort they made to make an interesting plot that tried to move the story forward but I feel like it was at the detriment to the overall ideal of heroic values the original series had. Skeletor for all intents and purposes has always been a joke because he has been beaten to a pulp and never had a chance to actually win so the idea of a series where he "wins" is a good start just the execution has been well awful haha
So, Teela says "and we had to live with it" for when Adam says that he died. In conclusion, Adam living or dying wouldn't make a difference to Teela no way! That's just cold hearted.
Who could have predicted that having a bratty self centered protagonist would be a bad idea? I cant even imagine my best friend sacrificing his life for me, but being mad because he didn't share his secret with me. Teela is just a terrible and unlikable character. Her fear is being to powerful? There are too many stupid parts in this show.
@@odinsrensen7460 Simba had a character arc that went from bratty/not understanding how the world worked. (He was a child). Teela went from likable to bratty self centered woman with no character arc. So in conclusion no. Nothing like Simba. Try again
@@guiltytrain3689 I know Simba had an arch. There are many characters that have that same arch, Luke Skywalker to some degree. That was my point. But if you want an example of someone like that with less of an arch... the only example I can think of off the top my head would be Shinji Ikari. Not because he doesn't have an arch, or character development. He does. Just not much of it in the character traits that bother people the most: He starts off like a pretty useless wimp, when it looks like he's developing out of that the story slaps him back down into the ground, and he ends the story as a still mostly useless wimp; all he manages to really do in EoE is choose not to run away from his problem, which he had already learned not that long into the series. And yet he's not that hated a character. Nothing close to Teela. Some people actually like him.
@@odinsrensen7460 so we agree, it isn't anything like Simba. What point are you trying to make? Teela was written very badly. She was written as a bratty self centered woman. She already was established as an awesome character. 1980's and 2002 Teela. They retconned her into this crappy character that is unlikable. I'm just failing to see the point of your posts.
My young son wasnt interested in the show once he realized it was all about Teela and not He-Man. What annoys me is that the entertainment industry are still making shows specifically aimed at girls, but theyre also now making all the shows that used to be aimed at boys for girls as well. So now the girls still get their own shows and they also get the boys shows too. So boys are left with nothing to interest them. I show my son a lot of the older tv shows, cartoons and movies that do have male heroes in them. He loves Knight Rider at the moment. Absolutely loves it.
@@chocolatemilkshakeme Yeah, its like how my wife is a James Bond fan, and she would definitely stop watching those movies if Bond was no longer the main character.
This breed of writers seem to think subverting and deconstructing characters is in itself a guarantee of quality. They've killed Star Wars, The Last of Us, and now He-Man.
Revelations should be used as a case study in writing classes for all the ways that you should not portray your primary protagonists. You know they are terribly written when they become so insufferable that you are actively cheering for the bad guys, if only for the show to end more quickly.
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When even the villain Evil Lynn had more common sense (to help the sorceress) than the supposed 'hero' of the show Teela, who literally walked away and said no to her own mom (sorceress) when asked to save the universe which was literally dying, you know there's a problem
No body cares about context or background anymore. They want to judge a woman's body/attire out of context and when faced with opposition to that, try to counter criticism with even weaker criticism. This has been going on for years and I'm sick of it. There's nothing wrong with a woman looking feminine, and yet jealous feminist women want to shame men for finding a feminine woman sexually attractive.
@@EricaBananas One of the weirdest things is that Kevin Smith and Co. claim that their extremely masculine take on these women characters is 'more realistic' (strange in itself that they think that female characters with exaggerated muscular physiques that go beyond those of many male body builders is somehow 'realistic'), and that they based their design at least in part on Gal Gadot's depiction of Wonder Woman. Whatever one may think of Gal Gadot as an actor, no one in their right mind could accuse her of being mannish, and she looks nothing like the grotesquely over muscled female characters of Master of the Universe; Revelation. Indeed, you would think she would be grossly insulted by the comparison.
Once again we see that actual women's bodies aren't ideologically compliant with the pseudo-feminist ideals of these fanatics, and yet they still have the sheer gall to claim to be fighting for women's empowerment.
@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 You would be completely correct! Gadot would be grossly insulted if she was compared to Teela. In fact, I'm sure most female athletes would be insulted by that too. Geeky Sparkles hit the nail on the head, when she called these type of modern female character design as "discount men." EDIT: I just realized that Evillyn is also extremely muscular. She's a magic caster, so why?!
I went thru the entire show just to give it a proper opinion of the show. Cause I generally don't form strong opinions about something till I finish it. Sometimes the ending completely ruins or saves a show so I give it the honest full watch. This show had me wishing I would have dropped it in the first 5 mins. I did my best to keep an open mind, cause honestly I always liked Kevin in his younger days and a lot of that good will still lingers. But no longer. This show single-handedly managed to use every trope that is wrong with modern Hollywood. The writing was absolutely abysmal on so many levels. I could rant for HOURS about all the millions of things wrong with this show and how it butchered the original characters but I will simply say that they utterly missed what could have been. Cause it could have been one of the best, instead it will forever be a black mark on the series legacy.
I like characters that have a bit of a struggle with their successes. Then the characters grow and improve while also being relatable. Mary Sues are characters who don't have to struggle. Therefore there's no growth, only expectation, which leads to predictability, which leads to boredom.
in order for someone to understand the equality beetwen genderds in the original at what they did (beyond the stereotypes) just take a look how his sister Adora was introduced, she was a competent member/officer at Hordaks army, she was never had any extreme physicality nor she was over sexualized to the point you would think her female charms took her were she was, HeMan got captured and HE becomes the damsel in distress and saved by SheRa coming to existence and none felt being insulted at the audience....it came naturally, OF COURSE HeMan would sometime loose and NONE was like boooo SheRa op bs, you felt its natural that SheRa came to existence because sometimes you loose and you need someone elses help, HeMan never denied help because SheRa is a woman and i am HeMan crap nor SheRa felt she needed to say anything about it
just like in the 2002 remake with Teela: she's treated as an equal without it having to be said, sometimes she'd be in need of saving, sometimes she'd be the one doing the saving of either the masters or her father (who's occasionally getting the "Worf" treatment for being man-at-arms) etc
You can't make this shit up. He-Man is so good intentioned they actually made another show just for girls, because they though: "Girls also need this kind of heroic figure". Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people?
exactly. I absolutely hate the trope of people never needing or accepting help, unless it's like in their character arc. I hate damsel in distress, because it's more often than not objectifying and treating a woman like a prize, a golden cup to be awarded after some tasks. But I equally hate STRONK INDEPDENT WOOOMAN thing. Because it's like Madonna and W*re dichtonomy, all over again. Either you're a perfect saint and object of admiration on a pedestal, or you're too lowly, and bad...or in this case a pretty thing. Both of these refuse to treat women like people they are. People with aspirations, dreams, fears, doubts and strengths. Only one of them wears a mask of being 'on your side'.
@@ninavale. which is funny because, in one of the 2002 episodes, the moral of the episode WAS that asking for help was a sign of strenght, not weakness, and you shouldn't be afraid to do so
@@floricel_112 exactly...like I said I like it when it's a character arc. either the character is too proud but later is forced to swallow their pride bc it either directly gets them into trouble, or they're unable to obtain their goal. or they have a hero or martyr complex and go all lone ranger thinking it's their responsibility and they cannot endanger their friends. Like for example Deku from MHA and like... half of the shoen protagonists.
This show: *releases* Everyone: "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and quite possibly bamboozled" "my dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"
I feel they dirrespected Orko and the fans' intelligence. Orko's magic didn't work properly in this dimension, in his home dimension he's like Dumbledore.
The “Invincible” is a VERY good notice - Mark did NOTHING wrong, protecting his secret identity. He didn’t know Amber that well, so he was COMPLETELY justified taking it slow, and trying to test their relationship first. And then Mark does the right thing AGAIN - he sees that his secret is destroying his relationship that he wants to keep, so he TELLS Amber his secret. And what does she do? She says “I KNOW!” and continues to insult him! Like WTF?! She literally accused him of COWARDICE a couple of hours before when “Mark” disappeared and “Invincible” rushed in to save his friends. So she KNEW it was him all along?! And yet she still was a bitch and called him a coward?! I was speechless at her sheer audacity.
Not only there. A similar thing happened in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. But there, it was Falcon's little sister, who knew of her brothers secret identity, yet still shamed him. He was out doing his job as The Falcon and so he couldn't help her move to her new home, so she shamed him for not helping and not sending her money on time (if I remember correctly), and the events were basically the same: Her: "Why didn't you come?" Falcon: "I was working * wink, wink *, doing you know what... Thanos Snap and all..." Her: "Who cares! What about me and my moving?"
@@Ultr4l0f I think so too, XD this one was just too moronic to be made on purpose. However, realizing that that scene was a screw-up still doesn’t make the whole character of Amber better. Even disregarding her stupid accusation, she STILL blamed Mark for prioritizing SAVING LIVES (or giving his damned best to at least try!) over pouring soup at her community center. That’s just UNBELIEVABLE selfishness. And no, she wasn’t just angry that he lied to her, that’s playing technicalities. ANY decent woman, who knew that her boyfriend was secretly a superhero would understand why he does so. A decent woman would end the relationship amicably, if she felt like she wanted a normal life, and dating a superhero was too much to handle to for her. Hell, a particularly GOOD woman would even play along his lies, both to make his life a bit easier and amuse herself XD And what does Amber do? Neither. She just keeps building tension until the situation explodes, no attempts to clear the air, find a solution or a compromise, instead she puts yet more strain on Mark, either A) Because she knows that he is trying to save people but doesn’t care about innocent lives, or B) She wants HIM to be the one to crack and crawl to her, giving away his secret (which eventually happens), no care for circumstances and the fact that he did nothing wrong whatsoever.
Are you saying his best friend and implied love-interest shouldn't be the worst effected by his death next to maybe his parents? Because that seems pretty reasonable to me. That she got angry is down to her being kept for ever knowing his secret in the old cartoon for dramatic irony. It's really just finally letting the payoff come for the setup the original cartoon never did anything with.
I heard (never watched the original either) that pretty much everyone else knew. And Teela (quoted from ThatStarWarsGirl) “was too busy lifting and benching to notice Adam was He-Man.
@@morganrobinson8042 her reaction wasn't reasonable at all. She was completely self centered, didn't care about his mourning parents, didn't even care about her father. She only cared about herself and how it affected her. A completely selfish, horrible person.
As someone who knows nothing about He-Man beyond memes, I thought the show was okay and had potential. However, I despised Teela... She was a horrendous protagonist, and an awful person, and the antithesis of a hero/heroine.
Yea Kevin Smith made her a whiny bitch. Not the Teela we knew and loved back in the days. He definitely destroyed He-Man but he destroyed Teela as well..
Sounds like this Teela is a butchered imitation of her superior predecessors. I wish we had gotten to see the likable Teela you both speak of instead of the crude musclebound codpiece we got in this new animation style.
My boyfriend calls her Tino... Teela In Name Only because they butchered her character so bad. I mean she's the Sorceress's daughter, fought at He-Man's side, was raised by the captain of the guard as his daughter
About Adam being Adam and not He-Man in heaven: My personal Headcanon (and I say it like that because Smoth DEFINATELY doesn't see it that way) is that Adam is making a statement. Every other He-Man before him embraced that Muscular appereance and chose to stay like that in heaven. But not Adam. Adam probably loves to be the generic guy, the dependable, but kinda awkward guy. Because he KNOWS that He-Man to him is nothing more than a facade. This Muscles he builds, that Power he has when he is transformed, all that is just that: POWER! But the good things he did? the self sacrifice? the will to act to save others and not care about his own safety? that is not He-Man! That is Adam! It is still him who makes those decisions! Even without power, he would still at least TRY to do all those heroic acts! Not because it is his destiny, not because it is fate, not because he is He-Man, BUT he does it because it is the right thing to do and it is something he WANTS to do, regardless if he has the power or not! And maybe, IF Smith is trying to save this tragedy, this is what will get to Teela! She sees how hard Adam trys (IF he is still alive), probably see him fail, questioning him on why he is doing all this dispite being powerless, and him pointing to her that it is the right thing, that he does it because he wants to do it, and that the moment he has to back down, is the moment he TRULY dies, not physically, but figuratively, letting EVERYONE down, only because he didn't try or didn't try hard enough. BUT I have no hopes left. But I would be willing to watch the next season if it is going on like this in SOME way.
@@ScottBoydathome No she wasn't. Her best friend sacrificed himself for her, she didn't mourn him, she didn't care about him, she just said terrible things about him and only cared about herself. She's a terrible person.
...She made a decision on the day her best friend died, finding out he, her father, and two of her closest friend had been lying to her about his leading a double life to here as another of their friends, and subsequently took it badly and cut off all ties. All of the people closest to her seemingly didn't trust her and now the one closest to her was dead. Subsequently she spent years embittered and resentful of the magic that allowed him to fool her and seemed to ruin her life. Despite that, she still used her skills to help people, and easily found purpose in undoing the greatest damage of the final battle to save the world, albeit with reluctance to trust again and without enthusiasm for the magic involved. She's messed up, but not irretrievable. That's her character arc here. And that's not narcissism, she's just really pissed at her friends for literally lying to her for years. So she's not a perfect person and let hurt and mourning effect her to make a bad decision and stewed in it for years. It's not like she's being lauded for it, she's repeatedly shown to be in the wrong about that and her growing out of it and reconnecting with the people who love her is a pretty solid arc if you're not expecting her to be limited to the characterization of a show aimed at preteens.
Kevin Smith several months ago: "MOTU is all about He-Man!" Kevin Smith last week: "I promise on my daughters life that I didn't lie." Kevin Smith now: "SUCKERS! I already fed my daughter to Harvey Weinstein!"
18:20 Regarding women writers: not only were there excellent women writers of traditional rugged "manly" sword-and-sorcery (C. L. Moore, Leigh Brackett, C. J. Cherry, Andre Norton, Tanith Lee), there were women writers *on the original He-Man* especially Gwen Wetzler, who directed several episodes including "The Secret of the Sword" crossover movie with She-Ra. Its absolutely possible for women to wrote classic style sword-and-sorcery while not being biased.
@@Hitoshuratdn simple. To write adequate feminine characters in a mainstream studio will make you an outcast and likley fired or underemployed. Your ideas would not be used in most cases. Write and publish independently, you have the freedom to make those choices.
Funny how whenever you look at articles of why Revelations is being trashed by fans, the writers of said articles say that the fans are pissed and crying "woke!", but the vast majority of fans making videos and commenting on why they hated the show are actually saying "BAD WRITING!". Golly gee whiz, I wonder why those writers would be ignoring this overwhelmingly common opinion.
Agreed. I think the "Subverted!" "Woke!" seems over exaggerated. but the writing point is dead on. The actual set up (He-man dying and what came after) would work just fine, and even Teela's narcissistic actions would be fine. But the problem is it is senseless and comes to no conclusion. She doesn't change. Her freakout over Adam's death and the cover up is unreasonable, and given the personality given to her engineer companion, Evil-Lyn, or Orko, it would and should have been called out. if the writing had any conclusion to it. The underworld part was worse than simply the whole "I'm afraid of my strength", the worst thing is that it makes no f'ing sense. If anything Teela is clearly afraid of being weak, so why not just say that. Might actually have been a nice foil against Adam, who (at least in the adaptions I've seen) is a little more ambivalent about being He-man then some one with Revelation Teela's character would be. Of course some of this might be a function of the thing only having 6 episodes, but that is Netflix's choice. If you want 6 episodes, write for 6 episodes.
...because the low-budget animated toy advertisements, limited by having to have a morals due to Standards and Practices of the time, had "great writing"
@@lazerhosen good point haha still, I'm judging the Netflix show should be judged on its own merit not pining over the anachronism that is the original. For example, these blokes are completely OUT OF THIER MINDS regarding She-ra, that one was stellar, even if you are looking at from a questionable admiration of the old one
another thing i love about modern holly wood: every movie has amaizing costume design, music, special effects, animation, sound design, and characterisation while awful story, choreography, actors, and lines. basicly everything made by the hardworking people at the bottom is top quality, but the suits ,writers, and actors that are calling the shots consistently make the worst decisions. *IRONIC* ,- sheev palpatine
I have never watched the OG He Man or the 2002 one but when I saw that netflix was making a new one I was pretty happy since it looked good in the trailer and they got Mark Hamill in it so I expected something good that I could watch with my old man for some quality father and son time and when I heard what they did it felt like a kick in the balls, I felt betrayed
Same here. I never cared for the older shows, since the OG was before my time, and I had other shows to watch when the 2002 show was airing, but I decided to give the Netflix one a shot when I heard about it….only to get garbage for my time.
Just sit and watch the 2002 show with your dad. If he was a fan of the OG show then the 2002 reboot is a worthy successor. And it has the Snake-Men in the second season who never made it into the OG cartoon.
Honestly, the scene with Scareglow where we Teela is fighting He-Man I was super into it, I was thinking that they were going to lean into her being very rude and overall bitchy to everyone as a way to cover for the fact that her best friend didn't share his deepest secret with her, that scene could have turned Teela all the way around for me... and then they fucked it up.
And, well, Technically, She never specifically asked "Adam, are you He-Man?" He didn't lie, He simply redirected any questions that came close. < See Kevin Smith, we can play semantics as well. >
@@cdcastro2503 That's still an omission if you wanna go that far. But the fact of the matter is that it was a state secret, of the people who knew about it, none of them knew because they were told: Orko and Cringer followed Adam in secret and saw him become He-Man for the first time. Man-at-Arms and the Sorceress were the ones who convinced Adam to become He-Man. The Queen recognized him in his He-Man form. Even the King, Adam's own father, didn't know, why should Teela?
The "And we had to live with it" reminds me of Hillary Clinton's quote: “Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”
Not to play devil's advocate, but she does have one point in the sense that the relatives and friends of the deceased are affected and should be accounted for as well. However, she is wrong that they are the primary victims of war. Respect should be given to both the deceased and their loved ones (arguably equally, as the survivors should be given support to help move on).
@@cadethumann8605 I don't think anyone was arguing against that, necessarily. I mean, if the quote here is correct she mentions the relatives as being the "primary victims" which is the center of the issue as I see it.
@@tentacledood5784 Hence why I said she was wrong that women and ither survivors are the primary victims. Had she worded it as "ALSO victims of war", I would have little issue. *sigh* Politicians these days. (But lets not discuss such matters for obvious reasons)
Around 4:00, “One of the worst shows in recent memory” alright, that cinches it. Officially starting a petition to get Shad and the boys to watch Batwoman. It *needs* to happen.
@@cormoran2303 I'm pretty sure Shad said he was reacting to the ""weapon"" in question because the EFAP crew had brought it up to him. I don't think he's actually seen the show yet.
some of the reason Shad is (rightfully) so angry at this is becuase it's something so personal for him. Batwoman wouldn't have that effect so I doubt he'd have such a viceral reaction to it
@@backslash4141 I don’t know, I’m not sure of Shad’s connection with Batman (which the CW seems to go out of their way to ruin) but the horrifically broken woke politics are enough for me to want Shad and Oz to watch it.
Well they now probably considering what to do: 1. Release part 2 and continue this garbage. 2. Not releasing it becouse it will be disaster. 3. Delay and try to remake it...........................however they are greedy bastards so this choice has quite low chance to sucess
@@DeinosCZ I dunno. The chances of the third option aren't that abysmal as we have an example of fan pushback causing some change and paying off: Sonic The Hedgehog I see Options 1 and 2 being more likely but stranger things have happened.
@@NathanCassidy721 Except the Sonic issue was about a character design for a movie's CGI. While they did change it in response to fan backlash, I don't think they ended up doing anything but ordinary post-production work. ASince there's no fixing this mess without a complete rewrite, odds are Netflix will just release the second half without fanfare.
When Adam asked Teela if he should come back, she just turns around and walks away. Like she didn’t even want him to come back. The journey wasn’t about bringing He-Man back. Totally agree.
Now, see, I think there's some defense for this. Teela doesn't want Adam to risk his place in paradise. That's why she doesn't explain to him what's going on; she knows that he'll want to come back and fight. She's wanting to protect him because if he dies again, he'll lose his place in Preternia.
@@TheNoonish ” She was keeping a secret from Adam to protect him, setting her up to have a "Revelation" about Adam's own secret about He-Man and to realize why it was a secret.” Which only begs the question, why was Adam keeping a secret for *exactly same reasons* a deal breaker to Teela? Let me answer that, lazy progressive writing.
How about before that when Teela's mom (Sorceress) asked her to save the entire universe because it waas literally going to VANISH which of course would include Teela herself, and she walks away and says no (until Cringer of all people had to convince her lol). Absolute shit writing and character assassination
The show would have been fine or even good if they had simply begun with a few "old school" episodes to reintroduce the characters and build up a bit to the big "death of he-man" event. AFTER scratching the nostalgia itch, a multi-episode arc where all the minor characters all get to shine could be fascinating, not hated. Starting with the death of he-man and jumping straight into an unfamiliar universe with unremembered-but-now-changed secondary characters was a braindead waste of the nostalgia the show was riding on. I think too much cocaine is going into these netflix shows lately and not enough actual writing.
“Girls make out with each other and are just friends. It’s a common thing.” Uhhhhh no? I can’t speak for every girl but speaking as someone who is female and has MANY gal pals we do not make out with someone who is just a friend. I’m with Shad. Strong disagree to his buddy.
I'm friends with a girl from high school she tells me stuff all the time about making out with another girl and they were still just friends so the co host isn't lying
It may be ancedotal but alot of girls i knew in high school were reeeeally touchy feely. They would mouth to mouth kiss all the bloody time and giggle about it, straight girls with boy friends might I add
Well, being dead you dont really notice. Living peolple have to deal with your death. But I get your point. The entitlement is amazing. Especially when she goes off on Adams fucking parents who just lost their son.
@@CriticalCoen “we’ll being dead you really don’t notice” that only works if you believe death is the end, if not then it doesn’t have a leg to stand on, and in universe it’s shown to not be the end I. The show since he comes back.
IIRC in the original cartoons in the 80's Adam was intentionally playing the incompetent bumbling prince. He did so so no one would think for a moment he was really He-Man since he runs away moments before He-Man arrives nearly every episode.
Okay, just got through episode one and I've come to the conclusion that between the Clerks animated series and this atrocity, Kevin Smith should never be allowed anywhere near animated media. Ever. Putting aside the half-hearted animation and the terrible voice casting, Teela is a privileged bitch who apparently thinks the whole world revolved around her, despite being insanely incompetent at every action she's taken. She couldn't once make a decision without daddy telling her what she should do. When she's fighting in Gray Skull, she goes and helps tie down the bloody horse???? FFS!!! The king and queen find out their only child is dead and she cries that no one told her Adam was He-Man. Then her father is banished from the castle and what does she do? She quits in a huff and blames everyone but her incompetent self! Seriously! Complete garbage.
The one thing that stuck with me is the comment that they’re not bringing He-Man back, they’re bringing the sword back. And what my mind immediately goes to is Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End, because they weren’t bringing back Jack Sparrow either; they just needed the piece of eight he was carrying. Which is a pretty spot-on comparison of ‘he’s dead and everyone’s reacting about it’.
I haven't seen this show, but when I heard that a major plot point was based on the trope of someone getting upset because someone kept a reasonable secret from them...I have always thought that was a bad trope.
As a girl I can confirm MUST girls DONT kiss each other 🤣🤣🤣, Teela and Andra interactions are NOT the norm between female friends not even best friends
I'm a guy, but I have a lot of friends that are girls and two slightly older cousins that I'm really close with, so I have seen what girl friendship looks like more than I'd like to. And... No kisses, no making out, no super long gazing into each other's eyes with foreheads touching. If anything girl friendship isn't that different from boy friendship.
@@autobotstarscream765 calls it as I sees it. A bunch of butt hurt guys complaining someone ruined their childhood* and proving they never understood the original show in the first place. H-M:ATMoU was an incredibly subversive show for it's time. Let's just focus on the "too much Teela" everyone is complaining about. SHE WAS THE ONLY OTHER CHARACTER TO BE IN EVERY EPISODE BESIDES HE-MAN HIMSELF! There were even episodes that focused on her as the main protagonist, with He-Man being a secondary character for that half hour. Furthermore, with no magical powers Teela held her owe, nay completed dominated the same enemies Adam need a magic sword to defeat. So yes, a could of limp twisted choads. *Kevin Smith ruined your childhood? Give me a break. You know who ruins childhoods? Michael Bay. Michael Bay bends your childhood over and hang rapes it like it was the new guy in "prison is hell and we're gonna prove it to you by being way to graphic, because as a writer/producer/director I don't understand subtlety and shock value is all I can pull off cause I'm a no talent hack" gritty FX/HBO/STARS formulaic one-hour drama series that we all pretend is so great, but is really kinda shitty and overdone, but we can't admit it cause nobody at work would talk to us cause we have no real personality.... Sorry, where was I? Oh, yeah. Michael Bay is a destroyer of all things good and anyone who is complaining MoTU is too "woke" has a small penis and an inferiority complex about their masculinity. Mic drop.
@@danieldugan1182 I have half a mind to toss them both in the bin and wonder if Zack Snyder is really a good director as well, "untouchable masterpieces" such as 300 and Man of Steel seem weird and boring in hindsight upon recent rewatches.
It was He-man AND Shera as a packaged deal. He-man was the boy show with the male lead and Shera was the girl show with the female lead. My sister and I watched both because they where cool shows (and toys).
I'm 45 was the exact demo for He-Man. I had so many of the toys and watched the cartoon religiously. When She-Ra came out, I'll admit I wasn't as into it, but I never thought it was something evil. It was just the girls show for this. The Barbie to my GI Joe. It was cool for what it was but not my thing. I still watched.
Sure it was a boy show, but when we were little my sister looked forward to He Man as much as I did (and I liked Sheera Princess of Power as much as her) kids don't care about gender
And they represent the basic concept of the sacred/divine masculine and feminine. Which is embodied by their character design concepts in the older series. The original shows including the 2002 remake of he-man paid proper respect to the symbiotic relationship between the sacred fem & sacred masculine. But these new shows were never about boys and girls getting along and what not.
This is my first time watching Game Knights, and I love the commentary! Not sure if anyone’s pointed this out, but I do get a bit of a chuckle from our three hosts looking like Pokémon evolutions of each other
The biggest counterpoint to the whole "biological imperative" thing is that ultimately it boils down to individual choice. I'm with you on being disgusted with those who belittle motherhood, but I'd never push anyone to pursue homemaker status against their will or claim they'll regret not making time for their family.
This idea you have about embracing your identity as a hero, in Batman Beyond, there's a few occasions where we learn that Bruce Way doesn't call himself Bruce in his head and that he identifies Bruce Way as the mask. I love it.
in the end it doesnt realy matter its just another side of identity politics,we all have the hero fantasy side in us,everyone has there own batman hero personality and there everyday bruce wayne version. the movie suckerpunch is a good example of that,that girl that escaped into her mind beeing this amazing fighter,its what we all have,most people have this idee of there own heroes journey.
@@Obversechaos I remember that once Wonder Woman put her lasso around both Superman and Batman and asked them who the really were, Superman said he was Clark Kent, but Batman said that his true identity is Batman
⚠️💩 *What they did to HE-MAN would be like if you had a really expensive, original, mint condition, in-box He-Man figure (that your long deceased GrandPop gave you when you were 6 - but because you already had one he told you you keep it in the package until your were older) and, without your knowledge, Kevin Smith breaks into your house and steals that figure, pulls it out of the package, repaints it to look like TEELA and then gives it back to you as some big SURPRISE!!* *Not only did he break into your home and destroy your memories and your expensive collectible **_but he’s expecting you to be simply overjoyed and thank him._* _That’s_ MOTU: Revelations
He-Man... probably the most OPTMISTIC hero from the 80`s cartoons, allways face evil with a smile, positive atitude guy and give us a lesson in the end. A real EXAMPLE for kids of all ages. This iconic character deserves bether than this shit show. Thanks guys.
AND… he was also a scared weak kid who heard the call to action over and over and every time he got over confident in his abilities, reality hurt him and forced him to rly on those bonds. Top notch episodic storytelling
Funny you mention the 80's cartoons and their heroes. Kevin Smith: "I'm so much smarter than the people who made these properties, why didn't they kill He-Man? _Repeatedly?"_ Optimus Prime and Duke: "Don't you think they tried that?"
Heck, I saw an episode yesterday where Adam and King Randor were clearly having difficulty communicating with each other and they end up reconciling. And Orko reminding kids to say "I love you" to their parents, even if it's hard. For some, that may not work, but it's a simple yet profound lesson that's great for everyone, not just children.
Funniest thing about these kinds of "you trashed my childhood show!" videos is the nostalgia goggles. He-Man was a toy advertisement wrapped up in low-budget animation with very minimal writing, and it by not means tried to tackle any big issues. The toys literally came first, they threw together all the show and backstory to SELL TOYS. It was literally not a "great show" or anything, nor has it ever been. I think everybody needs to go back and re-watch some episodes.
The worst thing about this show is that the concept itself is actually not bad at all however the biggest problem here is that the pieces are completely in the wrong places, first off make Duncan the lead character and you don’t disgrace the man; have him be stoic and wise as he is the Man-At-Arms but have him experience many moments of doubts and fears to show him struggle in a world without Adam. (Similar to early S5 Samurai Jack) Orko should be the secondary main character and travel with Duncan every step of the journey, have him built up to be more serious and getting much stronger with his magic; there’s no need to kill him off as he’s far from a screw up and can be very helpful to Duncan on their quest while being his moral compass and also constantly struggling with his own inner demons. Teela should stay to protect the kingdom and she should be a compassionate leader to her troops while Duncan’s away and comforting Adam’s grieving parents, also have her design be a mixture of both the 80’s and 2003 version (no mental illness haircut whatsoever) and finally you have Adam sacrifice himself in the fifth episode while not emasculating him whatsoever as he was the original hero of the story, treat him with respect so that when he’s gone the impact will actually mean SOMETHING. That’s how you do it right, I doubt anyone will read the whole thing but I just wanted to put my two cents out there as this storyline CAN work with actual good writing and setup.
I don't want to pull an ACKSHUALLY, but it is worth saying that the reason Orko's magic doesn't work properly is that magic works differently on his homeworld as opposed to on Eternia. Orko can stay a comic relief, but his development can come more from better self-control and planning (not trying to solve everything with one spell), and thinking quicker on his feet to adapt to when his magic doesn't do what he wants to.
"Can you imagine what the Mary Sue would be afraid of?" I dunno, being brought down to normalcy and needing to act with autonomy instead of being carried by the writing? "Her OWN POWER!" Should've figured she wouldn't be that modest.
To be fair, if she'd been using anger at the perceived betrayal as an unhealthy coping mechanism of sorts, and later had a breakdown where she fully expressed her grief over the fact that he was dead and some sort of regret at something or other she'd done while channeling that anger (maybe breaking a gift he'd given her, or destroying a painting or statue of him that was the last such thing made while he was alive, or something similarly significant), and this was all in a relatively short period of time, I'd be able to see that as a believable character arc. Not a healthy one, but a believable one.
Once upon a time, a boy named Shad saw another boy named Adam turned into a super hero with the power of a sword. So began a grand quest to find a sword that would turn him into a super hero... A few dozen swords later... Shad looks up and finds that he already has "the POWER!" It was not ever a sword, it was MACHICOLATIONSSSSSSS!!!
@@simbabear The difference is that the original Teela was a selfless and loyal heroic character while the new Teela is a selfish and immature narcissistic character.
You know how Link in Breath of the Wild doesn’t talk because of the stress of his position? That made Link pretty interesting, being stoic is not a downside
ti even hit harder when you read mipha diary, where we can "see" link before and after he was given his position... and how that affect him to some degree
@@NautilusSSN571 link got mute due to the pressure of his position, literally, the world depends on him, he is literally carrying the world weight. he stopped talking because he doesn't want to show "weakness" or worst a situation by saying something incorrect
Well, I'm gonna talk about MY feelings right now: I'm feeling GRATEFULL that I watched this video before I watched any more episodes of this TERRIBLE series. Dude, in the very moment that the King diminished Adam saying (basically) that his son have never made him proud I noticed something was very wrong. The thing only went from bad to worse when Teela continued talking. All He-Man cartoons have always been about teaching morals and good behavior, and one of the most important traits of good people is loyalty. It was bad enough that the king, in his grief, banished the man-at-arms for his lies, but didn't give a sh*t about his own queen lying too. Yeah, it wasn't a trait of that same king in the old cartoons, but it's understandable. He has lost his son, and the projected his angry in someone that have been more loyal to the prince than to he king himself. Bad, but understandable. But Teela? Dude, she should have been executed right there! No one can talk to his/her king or queen the way she did! And the most shocking part: if her loyalty to the kingdom meaned so little to her, why and how could she earn the tittle that she have earner on the very beginning of that episode? She is loyal only to herself and her pride... You know, I have been afraid of not being a good writter. I have been doubting of my own capacities to write and publish my content. But after watching The Legend of the Lake (that one with the girl from "13 reasons why" being merlin's daughter) and this 1st episode of Masters of the Universe: Revelations, I know that not only in Brazil but in the whole world there are plenty sh*tty writters publishing and making money with garbage... That makes me feel I have a chance.
For the longest time i’ve wanted The Chronicles Of Narnia to be adapted into a full 7 movie series, one per book. Now I honestly dont want it anymore, because the risk of it being slaughtered by political correctness is just too great these days
I understand the original show was rotoscoped. I'm sure they used ideal human models, but coloring over that still makes the animated image as realistic as you can get
Before the TV series, Filmation did an advertisement for Mattel for the original toyline. That advertising spot was rotoscoped, and consequently looks notably different from the actual Filmation series. The Filmation series itself was not rotoscoped. Here is the only example of Rotoscoping from Filmation that was ever made. ua-cam.com/video/09f00S57DG0/v-deo.html
@@slikedragon Ummm; he-man was rotoscoped; there are pictures from it :) vh-yes.tumblr.com/post/119505880164/he-man-and-the-masters-of-the-universe-rotoscope and the actual he-man youtube page - says otherwise too ;) ua-cam.com/video/A3e2stGobpM/v-deo.html Not so much in this video but others ones ;)
Rotoscoping was done all the time. In truth it's still done with cartoons all the time. Though now with it being digital you can modify those animations to hide it better. But even Disney did a lot of Rotoscoping even if they did modify things a little more. Drawing each frame by hand one by one is just expensive and animation doesn't have nearly the audiance it does today. Computers really have led to a golden age of animation as you can actually cut a lot of corners without the quality suffering too much. You don't need to have Disney level resources to make something decent looking.
The time has come! Shad rage is legendary and he always brings the receipts. 😁 I already got the major gripes, that they've sidelined the hero from his own franchise in favor of a very unlikable replacement. Can't wait to hear what else they messed up lol.
Yes He-Man was sidelined for most od the series. BUT as someone who has lost a person they care about Teela is an accurate portrayal of grief. At the point we see her she has not gotten past her anger. Her being hurt about not knowing Adam was He-Man and her arrogant attitude is setting her up for a redemption arc where she has ro learn to fight with Adam instead of his alter ego. And I can see the next arc She-Ra falling to skeletor and Teela being forced to take up her sword and gaining THE POWER thus finally learning why Adam didn't want the world to know he what he was by noone realizing as She-ra it was teela beneath. Third arc be classic heman power trip with Mark Hamil going full joker
I have not and will not watch that show but one thing I did notice was that He Man no longer bears the Maltese cross, which is a very ancient symbol of honor, virtue and self sacrifice.
Mattel asked Filmation to create the 'transformation' from Adam to He-Man because at the time, comic book superheroes with secret identities (Superman, Spiderman, Shazam, etc) were popular. They wanted to have this same dynamic for the show, and ultimately worked this into the comics and the lore.
As Shad was talking about destiny a dialog from my favorite move popped in to my head Cori: "I guess you found your destiny" Sean: "Cori, I lied. The Zoanoids weren't the failed experiment the Guyvers were. Out of control, it's what Guyver means. I have no destiny." Cori: Place hand on side of Sean's masked face "you made your own." Just thought I would share that with the class.
Definitely, the scene where the king banished Man-At-Arms and Teela threw her temper tantrum made me decide not to watch any more episodes. That wasn’t the real king Randor or the real Teela - they were acting more like angry 5 year olds than a experienced, wise king or a loyal champion of the realm respectively (honestly, Teela was effectively the kingdom’s military leader and she just abandoned her duties because she was upset Adam didn’t reveal his secret ID to her. WTF?!)
@@superstd Exactly. The real Teela was all about duty and honor - a hero. The new one, from what I’ve heard, not only abandoned her kingdom and father, but barely could be bothered to even save the universe - the opposite of a hero, and stupid as well. It’s just horrible how he ruined Teela’s character.
One of the most inspiring moments in any piece of fiction to me is when a character is faced with terrible evil, doom has surrounded them, and in the clutches of darkness far beyond their power to combat, alone, when and where no one would know of their doing, they elect to stand in defiance. Favorite fictional character of all time is Ollanius Pius.
The "man/men" part in words like "policeman", "beastmen" (fantasy race), "elves and men", ect. doesn't refer to the male sex at all. In old English and the Germanic languages "man" meant "human" or "person". The word for "man" and "woman" back then was "wer" and "wyf". You can see the word "wer" in "werewolf" (so technically a female werewolf should be called a "wyfwolf" lol). The word "wyf" likely transformed into the word "wife" that we have today.
I'll just never understand why female warriors can't be feminine. Why do they have to be stripped of their womanhood when they pick up a weapon? You have female athletes that are super buff but still hold onto to their womanly behaviors. Serena Williams is an example. Ronda Rousey is another.
Yeah! Maybe People could try to give female characters firearms, so they can be powerful and lethal, without the need for them to look like a female Arnold Schwarzenegger. Nothing against female athletes though.
@@adrigl3371 Most female athletes aren't Schwarzenegger level of muscular anyway. Most of them look fit and with the correct clothing, they can look feminine without showing their muscles.
@@adrigl3371 hell, you can have them look like female Arnold Schwarzenegger, and still have them be fairly feminine. Perhaps not girly, as having them be all nail painty and squeamish when they are clearly juggernauts just clashes horribly and doesn't work out very well, but certainly very motherly. Much like how you can have fairly small and weak looking male characters, and still have them be masculine. Perhaps not like james bond or a terminator, able to physically overpower or skillfully outfight opponent's, but putting themselves in harms way to directly support there friends and to protect there families. It's only people with a very narrow view of what masculinity and femmininity have been portrayed as in media who think that all female characters are girly and they break tropes by having them be burly and agressive, and that all male characters are big and punchy and they break tropes by having them be flimsy and emotional. I think all that makes sense. Always hard to tell.
Thank you it annoys me that for woman to be a strong character they have to be basically a man, when real life female fighters and athletes still hold their femininity but even super heroes and fantasy fighters can be both think of Xena and many older DC and Marvel Female Heroes. Let women be women and strong and they don't need to be sexualized to be shown as a woman or express their femininity. (By the way I am a guy and think this, hoping my nieces can be themselves and still feel strong)
To me, it's a recent thing. Ever since TLoU2. I don't think it is inherently bad, but it can be too on the nose. And it shouldn't the primary indicator of a physically strong female character. Doesn't have to be physical either for a charactrr to be "strong" in the general sense.
1:13:53 I’m all for characters expressing their feelings in a way that doesn’t involve violence but holy hell, please only open up to people that you trust (a message I haven’t seen in any modern media). these shows have their characters talk about their feelings so randomly and that’s dangerous af in real life where so many people can take advantage of it it’s always the same, they take a good message and twist it into something ridiculous. Loki be like yeah sure, be vulnerable in front of people who verbally abuse you 👍
I'm a woman myself and I'm pissed the fact that it's all about girl power how dare they replace this female over He-Man how they do that I'm very disappointed that he man was only in two episodes what the what was the point of this series it wasn't about He-Man and how they traumatised all the fans who's been watching He-Man from the 80s by killing him twice another thing why are they trying to make women being men and men be more feminine and weak is time to start questioning these directors and Hollywood and he's elite is starting to piss me off because everybody's talking about what we are seeing.
MotU Revelation show is so so so bad. Kevin Smith should quit making anything, retire, move to some far away land and stop bothering people. Ridiculously bad decisions by everyone involved in making this show.
He-Man's secret that he kept, is the literal Platonic ideal of the Just Man. The man who does justice even when he receives no recognition for it. But no, that's "selfish" now.
Feminism was a mistake.
Something can be heroic and hurtful to others. They are not mutually exclusive.
@@LupercaliaXVI The problem is when that personal "hurt" is presented as more important than all the help that heroism has brought.
@@LupercaliaXVI I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
@@theblasblas if the focus of the story is on that character then that makes sense in my opinion.
Feels like MotU: Revelations is turning out to be the best marketing for 2002 He-Man show
I wonder how the other new He-Man show on Netflix will be received next year. That one is more kid aimed so maybe people will ignore it. It has He-Man in the title though lol
Seriously! I have gone back to revisit the 2002 show which I never watched from first to last episode
Yuuup I started watching that again lol, I didnt bitger eith MoTUR after hearing everything
The 2002 He Man was very good but it was boycotted by Cartoon Network.
Finally others that remember that beautiful show that shows what a remake should be like
after Adam said _"but I died!"_ and then Teela says _"and we had to live with it."_ You know the writers in that room thought they were writing at the same level as Shakespeare. 😆 Writing something so profound but the audience just saw it as selfish. The writers of the show have the writing equivalency of self-important 12-year-olds.
"The first day we wrote that Iconic line. Well, we just spent the rest of the day high-fiving each other." - The making of She-Man/T-Ma'am Revelations.
“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.” -Hillary Rodham Clinton
I haven't gotten to that part. But, the way others have presented it, I think they were going for the grieving friend/girlfriend angle on that.
They definitely were going that way in the first episode at least.
The whole "Nobody told me" thing gets compared with the line in Invincible. But honestly? There is no comparison.
Amber was 100% selfish there. If she's smart enough to figure out his identity, she's art enough to understand the risks that come with people knowing your secret identity.
With Teela, she was grieving a friend and lashed out at those who didn't let her truly know him. It's a much more understandable anger if you know the history.
But that's the problem. They don't show the history. This is supposed to be the reboot, you shouldn't need to have watched either series that came before in order to understand it.
Are we SURE that Kevin Smith wrote this? By Shad's description, it sounds more like a Rian Johnson script.
@@TheCaniblcat they basically the same people. One overly praised piece of crap for people to say was great and they coast the rest of their careers off that achievement.
There was an episode of Garfield and Friends this reminds me of. A really calm, stoner sheep is asked why he's never angry. "Of course I get angry man. I just save it up for the people hurting my friends"
Bo is best sheep!
True chad
The weirdest thing about the way Teela acted was that in the old show, every treated her with respect. They treated her as a warrior. Because she was one. It's only in this show where they pull this whole thing where she had to prove herself and defy everyone's expectations when in the old everyone new how good she was, she didn't have to prove anything. Her becoming man at arms is completely believable because going we already know what she's capable of. And she shouldn't have been angry about the guy lying. She should have been sad because her friend sacrificed himself to save her and everyone else.
Honestly, Teela's arc feels more like a bad villain's origin story rather than a hero's journey. When facing a father grieving the death of his child her primary concern is the fact that she was lied to. When facing the hero who sacrificed himself to save the world from ruin her primary concern is the fact that he left her. She seemingly lacks any empathy and thinks the world revolve solely around her. I'd argue she gives even Skeletor a run for his money.
Like Oz aptly pointed out, this could've made sense if she started out arrogant and over the course of the season learned to be humble and place others' need before her own. But she's doesn't; she's the same self-important jagg-off throughout the whole season.
#notmyTeela
@6Theories Best comment.
I have no problem with a bad person as a protagonist. I do have a problem with all the characters acting like she's in the right when she's clearly acting like a petulant child.
Also, I hate when a story uses a pre-existing property to rewrite them in the opening of a reboot.
@6theories,
Exactly.
But here's a coincidence: Captain Marvel (as depicted by the obnoxious Bree L.) acts in ways typical of...villains. Snarky, selfish, pushy, abusive.
There are other female characters who also display the same tendencies.
So... maybe this reflects something of how these script writers feel about women and their roles.
UPDATE:
SHAD and his guys mentioned this as well, I see. So, more people see these issues. (Even if it's only in part - the fear of her own powers thing)
They've "subverted" our expectations so many times it would be an actual subversion if they made something we liked.
when everybody subverts, nobody subverts
2020 just showed me that.
They subverted my expectations.
But that's okay, I subverted their subscription service.
At this point it feels like a hive mind is writing all these shows and movies. Each and every single one is so predictable in its agenda. You'll get some combination of a Mary Sue female with no flaws, an established male character being emasculated or a buffoon, a female character taking something from a male character and proclaiming it as her own making, male characters acting feminine, female characters acting like a douchey meat head, an unknown character being first perceived as a man later being revealed as a woman, females always being in positions of power and being infallible, and males always being in the villian role and being irredeemable.
Go down the list Ghostbusters 2016, Terminator Woke Fate, Disney SW, Charlie's Angels reboot, Batwoman, James Bond, Star Trek, Dr. Who, Loki, Black Widow, Captain Marvel, HeMan and more are all comprised of those elements. It's like the powers that be are trying to get women to become douchey men in order to exact revenge against the effeminate male subordinates.
@@cormoran2303 😂😂😂
I'm gonna spend more time watching Shad bitch about Revelations than I spent actually watching Revelations. Definitely a better use of my time too, I'll wager.
How far did you get? Ep 2 was my limit
I watched all of it, the thing I did enjoy was Orko. I hated him as a kid. Like Snarf in Thundercats and Jarjar in SW.
But in this I actually liked him. Also I hope he's not really dead.
I also liked E.lynn bonding with him.
But that is about it.
Everything else is just as Shad described.
Likewise
I feel like it gets more flack than it deserves, but it's not awful imo. Certainly not GOOD, but tolerable. I do like that it expands more on the personal struggles of the originally flat and uninteresting supporting characters
@@anthonyjr9722 mine too. About ten minutes into episode two I was like "I have better things to do than watch this crap"
I like that this review is basically longer than the series itself and I'm still more willing to watch this than the show itself.
I have consumed more content about how bad MotU: Rev is than the show is long, and I enjoyed that an order of magnitude more, so in the end, it was a success. 😜🤣🤣🤣
Same!
Same
Supporting characters having to declare how powerful, intelligent etc. the main character is,
always reminds me of Tywin saying: "Any man who must say, I am the king, is no true king." xD
'Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.' - Margaret Thatcher
Ouch, big Fail of the 3 around 19:15,
not understanding stuff and missing some points entirely. Yikes there.
love that quote
"I'm no leader. I do what I have to do. Sometimes, people come with me."
-Edgar Friendly, Demolition Man
@@slevinchannel7589 What "point" did they miss? Pretty sure the show was saying "That IS sexist, but since Mark is a man he's okay with being sexist". Really, there's nothing sexist about it. Also.. what does this have to do with this comment chain?
I really don't get all the changes - Teela always was a capable character in her own right. Yes sometimes she was in trouble needed saving, but so did all other characters on the show, including He-Man (well, Adam specifically). And Teela also had her moments of glory.
Besides - there was always the She-ra franchise with a strong female lead. She-ra was in some regards even more capable than He-Man - he was physically stronger but did not always act in the smartest way possible, while She-ra almost as often outwitted her enemies as overcoming them with brute force.
It's completely unnecessary to rewrite all the characters to fit modern ideologies.
The reason she was more capable than He-man was because she had serious training whereas Adam had none and didn't really receive until after he became He-man.
Honestly, I don't mind a bit of change here and there if there's thought and respect given to the source material. Hell, the new She Ra show that finished up about a year ago was fantastic! As a 30 year old straight man, I genuinely enjoyed it a lot. Because it preached positivity in all forms, without trying to vilify men or straight people. Plus, it did a great job of keeping characters core traits, while also adding some legitimate depth and growth throughout the series.
It seems like this new He-Man show did none of that, which is a huge shame. I was really looking forward to it.
@@DeltaFidelias it had nothing to do with the original. All the characters outside Adora were idiots. Bow was obnoxious, glimmer was a brat, catra was toxic waste
@@williamcorey4700 I don't know, I liked it. I thought most of the characters made decisions that made sense for their age and experience, at least after the first season. I liked Bow. Catra being a toxic waste is kinda a major plot point throughout the entire show. And yeah, Glimmer is absolutely horrible, but at least she's 1/4th of the main cast, and not really that prevalent later on. Again, I liked that the overall moral of She-Ra was one of redemption and positivity. Even if it's a bit childish at times, at least it didn't try to subvert expectations by throwing these "childish" ideals out like many many other superhero stories of today.
@@DeltaFidelias I'm gonna let you know something. You know how they said they designed Adora the way they did because they accused people of sexualizing a kid. They were full of crap. Adora and her friends were all over 18. Also one kind act does not redeem someone. That goes for her and Hordak.
One of the best lines from the older Tick cartoon was _"No! Don't blow up the Earth, that's where I keep all my stuff!"_ 😆 So the Tick had more awareness than Teela did when they told her the universe was going to expire. 🤷♂️
It sounds like it is inspired by Artur Dent.
"My planet was blown up one morning. That’s why I’m dressed like this, in my dressing gown. My planet was blown up with all my clothes in it, you see. I didn't realize I’d be coming to a party."
I remember that episode
At least that's funny and self-aware.
Spooooooon!
Puffin Forest reference, i see
The important thing to remember about peoples bodies in the original, they were actual people, then they used rotoscopes for the animation. So for as much as people call the original unrealistic, they were real people
Ouch, big Fail of the 3 around 19:15,
not understanding stuff and missing some points entirely. Yikes there.
Adam: I died
Teela: And we had to live with it!
They made it sound like he committed suicide, not sacrifice his life to save the universe. This is what family members of people who commit suicide say. U commit Suicide and we have to live and suffer from your decision! Adam saved the Universe he was the only one that could stop the planet and the universe from being destroyed
its funny how he man protected the sword for literally hundreds of episodes as the main character...teela is the main character for what 5 episodes and the entire realm is imploding and skeletor has the sword lol
Well, technically Adam had the sword when Skeletor got it sooo
Technically speaking the one who lost the sword was Adam
Not to mention, its the first time I've seen a villain ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING during the ridiculously long transformation sequence cliche
@@VJK102 but in this series Adam isn't the main character, which was my original point, as soon as he man became a side character and the limelight was given to the other characters literally everything fell apart
@@Guitarman5705 valid point
@@VJK102 as was yours, don't get me wrong I do appreciate the effort they made to make an interesting plot that tried to move the story forward but I feel like it was at the detriment to the overall ideal of heroic values the original series had. Skeletor for all intents and purposes has always been a joke because he has been beaten to a pulp and never had a chance to actually win so the idea of a series where he "wins" is a good start just the execution has been well awful haha
@@Guitarman5705 indeed
So, Teela says "and we had to live with it" for when Adam says that he died. In conclusion, Adam living or dying wouldn't make a difference to Teela no way! That's just cold hearted.
She's beyond selfish.
Who could have predicted that having a bratty self centered protagonist would be a bad idea?
I cant even imagine my best friend sacrificing his life for me, but being mad because he didn't share his secret with me. Teela is just a terrible and unlikable character. Her fear is being to powerful? There are too many stupid parts in this show.
This somehow triggered my Borderlands 3 PTSD.
"bratty self centered protagonist"
Like Simba?
@@odinsrensen7460 Simba had a character arc that went from bratty/not understanding how the world worked. (He was a child).
Teela went from likable to bratty self centered woman with no character arc.
So in conclusion no. Nothing like Simba.
Try again
@@guiltytrain3689 I know Simba had an arch. There are many characters that have that same arch, Luke Skywalker to some degree. That was my point.
But if you want an example of someone like that with less of an arch... the only example I can think of off the top my head would be Shinji Ikari. Not because he doesn't have an arch, or character development. He does. Just not much of it in the character traits that bother people the most: He starts off like a pretty useless wimp, when it looks like he's developing out of that the story slaps him back down into the ground, and he ends the story as a still mostly useless wimp; all he manages to really do in EoE is choose not to run away from his problem, which he had already learned not that long into the series.
And yet he's not that hated a character. Nothing close to Teela. Some people actually like him.
@@odinsrensen7460 so we agree, it isn't anything like Simba. What point are you trying to make?
Teela was written very badly. She was written as a bratty self centered woman.
She already was established as an awesome character. 1980's and 2002 Teela. They retconned her into this crappy character that is unlikable.
I'm just failing to see the point of your posts.
My young son wasnt interested in the show once he realized it was all about Teela and not He-Man. What annoys me is that the entertainment industry are still making shows specifically aimed at girls, but theyre also now making all the shows that used to be aimed at boys for girls as well. So now the girls still get their own shows and they also get the boys shows too. So boys are left with nothing to interest them. I show my son a lot of the older tv shows, cartoons and movies that do have male heroes in them. He loves Knight Rider at the moment. Absolutely loves it.
My sons got bored after heman died.
As a adult woman, I was also bored when He-Man died. I liked the 80s show and was disappointed Adam wasn't the main character
@@chocolatemilkshakeme
Yeah, its like how my wife is a James Bond fan, and she would definitely stop watching those movies if Bond was no longer the main character.
Try introducing your kids to anime, alot of boy shows, girl shows and untargeted shows
@@risensoldier
For sure.
This breed of writers seem to think subverting and deconstructing characters is in itself a guarantee of quality. They've killed Star Wars, The Last of Us, and now He-Man.
Modern television isn't original
Revelations should be used as a case study in writing classes for all the ways that you should not portray your primary protagonists. You know they are terribly written when they become so insufferable that you are actively cheering for the bad guys, if only for the show to end more quickly.
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Pairing this with their 'Lets atttttack all who believe in Evolution'-Mindset,
i ask straight: Could you report/flag?
They do with the star wars the last Skywalker and tat is all they need
@@jharvey62778 Kevin Smith loved that movie too go figure
When even the villain Evil Lynn had more common sense (to help the sorceress) than the supposed 'hero' of the show Teela, who literally walked away and said no to her own mom (sorceress) when asked to save the universe which was literally dying, you know there's a problem
My wife had me read the Twilight books and then watch the movies with her. One set of movies I liked more than the books - over sooo much faster!
The 80s show was rotoscoped, IE the bodies of the characters were real people, Teela's "fake unrealistic" female body, was a real women.
No body cares about context or background anymore. They want to judge a woman's body/attire out of context and when faced with opposition to that, try to counter criticism with even weaker criticism. This has been going on for years and I'm sick of it. There's nothing wrong with a woman looking feminine, and yet jealous feminist women want to shame men for finding a feminine woman sexually attractive.
@@EricaBananas One of the weirdest things is that Kevin Smith and Co. claim that their extremely masculine take on these women characters is 'more realistic' (strange in itself that they think that female characters with exaggerated muscular physiques that go beyond those of many male body builders is somehow 'realistic'), and that they based their design at least in part on Gal Gadot's depiction of Wonder Woman. Whatever one may think of Gal Gadot as an actor, no one in their right mind could accuse her of being mannish, and she looks nothing like the grotesquely over muscled female characters of Master of the Universe; Revelation. Indeed, you would think she would be grossly insulted by the comparison.
Once again we see that actual women's bodies aren't ideologically compliant with the pseudo-feminist ideals of these fanatics, and yet they still have the sheer gall to claim to be fighting for women's empowerment.
Midnight's Edge did a video explaining that.
@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 You would be completely correct! Gadot would be grossly insulted if she was compared to Teela. In fact, I'm sure most female athletes would be insulted by that too.
Geeky Sparkles hit the nail on the head, when she called these type of modern female character design as "discount men."
EDIT: I just realized that Evillyn is also extremely muscular. She's a magic caster, so why?!
HeMan died saving eternia and everyone in it , teela then screaming “ what about my feelings!” 🤦♂️
The writing is trash .
I went thru the entire show just to give it a proper opinion of the show. Cause I generally don't form strong opinions about something till I finish it. Sometimes the ending completely ruins or saves a show so I give it the honest full watch.
This show had me wishing I would have dropped it in the first 5 mins. I did my best to keep an open mind, cause honestly I always liked Kevin in his younger days and a lot of that good will still lingers. But no longer.
This show single-handedly managed to use every trope that is wrong with modern Hollywood.
The writing was absolutely abysmal on so many levels.
I could rant for HOURS about all the millions of things wrong with this show and how it butchered the original characters but I will simply say that they utterly missed what could have been. Cause it could have been one of the best, instead it will forever be a black mark on the series legacy.
...Ouch, big Fail of the 3 around 19:15,
not understanding stuff and missing some points entirely.
@@mrturbo84 Yeah?
I like characters that have a bit of a struggle with their successes. Then the characters grow and improve while also being relatable. Mary Sues are characters who don't have to struggle. Therefore there's no growth, only expectation, which leads to predictability, which leads to boredom.
in order for someone to understand the equality beetwen genderds in the original at what they did (beyond the stereotypes) just take a look how his sister Adora was introduced, she was a competent member/officer at Hordaks army, she was never had any extreme physicality nor she was over sexualized to the point you would think her female charms took her were she was, HeMan got captured and HE becomes the damsel in distress and saved by SheRa coming to existence and none felt being insulted at the audience....it came naturally, OF COURSE HeMan would sometime loose and NONE was like boooo SheRa op bs, you felt its natural that SheRa came to existence because sometimes you loose and you need someone elses help, HeMan never denied help because SheRa is a woman and i am HeMan crap nor SheRa felt she needed to say anything about it
just like in the 2002 remake with Teela: she's treated as an equal without it having to be said, sometimes she'd be in need of saving, sometimes she'd be the one doing the saving of either the masters or her father (who's occasionally getting the "Worf" treatment for being man-at-arms) etc
You can't make this shit up. He-Man is so good intentioned they actually made another show just for girls, because they though: "Girls also need this kind of heroic figure". Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people?
exactly. I absolutely hate the trope of people never needing or accepting help, unless it's like in their character arc. I hate damsel in distress, because it's more often than not objectifying and treating a woman like a prize, a golden cup to be awarded after some tasks. But I equally hate STRONK INDEPDENT WOOOMAN thing. Because it's like Madonna and W*re dichtonomy, all over again. Either you're a perfect saint and object of admiration on a pedestal, or you're too lowly, and bad...or in this case a pretty thing. Both of these refuse to treat women like people they are. People with aspirations, dreams, fears, doubts and strengths. Only one of them wears a mask of being 'on your side'.
@@ninavale. which is funny because, in one of the 2002 episodes, the moral of the episode WAS that asking for help was a sign of strenght, not weakness, and you shouldn't be afraid to do so
@@floricel_112 exactly...like I said I like it when it's a character arc. either the character is too proud but later is forced to swallow their pride bc it either directly gets them into trouble, or they're unable to obtain their goal. or they have a hero or martyr complex and go all lone ranger thinking it's their responsibility and they cannot endanger their friends. Like for example Deku from MHA and like... half of the shoen protagonists.
Teela: *brags about how awesome she is*
Also Teela: *afraid of how awesome she is*
Most people don’t brag about the things they’re afraid of😑
That was the most narcissistic thing this show did.
@@noahwiley2846 Yep
This show: *releases*
Everyone: "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and quite possibly bamboozled" "my dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"
Reviewbrah 👍
I feel they dirrespected Orko and the fans' intelligence. Orko's magic didn't work properly in this dimension, in his home dimension he's like Dumbledore.
The “Invincible” is a VERY good notice - Mark did NOTHING wrong, protecting his secret identity. He didn’t know Amber that well, so he was COMPLETELY justified taking it slow, and trying to test their relationship first. And then Mark does the right thing AGAIN - he sees that his secret is destroying his relationship that he wants to keep, so he TELLS Amber his secret. And what does she do? She says “I KNOW!” and continues to insult him! Like WTF?! She literally accused him of COWARDICE a couple of hours before when “Mark” disappeared and “Invincible” rushed in to save his friends. So she KNEW it was him all along?! And yet she still was a bitch and called him a coward?! I was speechless at her sheer audacity.
Not only there. A similar thing happened in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. But there, it was Falcon's little sister, who knew of her brothers secret identity, yet still shamed him. He was out doing his job as The Falcon and so he couldn't help her move to her new home, so she shamed him for not helping and not sending her money on time (if I remember correctly), and the events were basically the same:
Her: "Why didn't you come?"
Falcon: "I was working * wink, wink *, doing you know what... Thanos Snap and all..."
Her: "Who cares! What about me and my moving?"
I mostly blame the authors for fucking up on that one. Not the character.
Seems more like a writers bug.
@@Ultr4l0f I think so too, XD this one was just too moronic to be made on purpose. However, realizing that that scene was a screw-up still doesn’t make the whole character of Amber better. Even disregarding her stupid accusation, she STILL blamed Mark for prioritizing SAVING LIVES (or giving his damned best to at least try!) over pouring soup at her community center. That’s just UNBELIEVABLE selfishness. And no, she wasn’t just angry that he lied to her, that’s playing technicalities. ANY decent woman, who knew that her boyfriend was secretly a superhero would understand why he does so. A decent woman would end the relationship amicably, if she felt like she wanted a normal life, and dating a superhero was too much to handle to for her. Hell, a particularly GOOD woman would even play along his lies, both to make his life a bit easier and amuse herself XD
And what does Amber do? Neither. She just keeps building tension until the situation explodes, no attempts to clear the air, find a solution or a compromise, instead she puts yet more strain on Mark, either A) Because she knows that he is trying to save people but doesn’t care about innocent lives, or B) She wants HIM to be the one to crack and crawl to her, giving away his secret (which eventually happens), no care for circumstances and the fact that he did nothing wrong whatsoever.
"I built a life of truth" is one million percent something a villain would say
(Anakin Skywalker intensifies)
I would've killed for someone to respond with something like
How is it a life of truth when it's Founded upon a lie and betrayal?
"LiVe uR tRutTh HuNNey!"
Or Rorschach, it's not really a bad thing.
"Man sacrifices self to save world, woman most affected" - Teela
no, it's even "worse": Adam saved the entire universe with his sacrifice. What a selfish prick amirite?
Are you saying his best friend and implied love-interest shouldn't be the worst effected by his death next to maybe his parents? Because that seems pretty reasonable to me. That she got angry is down to her being kept for ever knowing his secret in the old cartoon for dramatic irony. It's really just finally letting the payoff come for the setup the original cartoon never did anything with.
I heard (never watched the original either) that pretty much everyone else knew. And Teela (quoted from ThatStarWarsGirl) “was too busy lifting and benching to notice Adam was He-Man.
Also Mr. Saber, may I direct you here to show the extent of Teela’s mindset?
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@@morganrobinson8042 her reaction wasn't reasonable at all. She was completely self centered, didn't care about his mourning parents, didn't even care about her father. She only cared about herself and how it affected her. A completely selfish, horrible person.
As someone who knows nothing about He-Man beyond memes, I thought the show was okay and had potential. However, I despised Teela... She was a horrendous protagonist, and an awful person, and the antithesis of a hero/heroine.
And thats the problem. the 80's and 2000's Teela was likable and heroic, not this bratty self centered creature that Kevin Smith pooped out.
Yea Kevin Smith made her a whiny bitch. Not the Teela we knew and loved back in the days. He definitely destroyed He-Man but he destroyed Teela as well..
Sounds like this Teela is a butchered imitation of her superior predecessors. I wish we had gotten to see the likable Teela you both speak of instead of the crude musclebound codpiece we got in this new animation style.
Teela was great in the original show. The only character in the new one that I kinda liked was Evil Lynn.
My boyfriend calls her Tino... Teela In Name Only because they butchered her character so bad. I mean she's the Sorceress's daughter, fought at He-Man's side, was raised by the captain of the guard as his daughter
About Adam being Adam and not He-Man in heaven: My personal Headcanon (and I say it like that because Smoth DEFINATELY doesn't see it that way) is that Adam is making a statement. Every other He-Man before him embraced that Muscular appereance and chose to stay like that in heaven. But not Adam. Adam probably loves to be the generic guy, the dependable, but kinda awkward guy. Because he KNOWS that He-Man to him is nothing more than a facade. This Muscles he builds, that Power he has when he is transformed, all that is just that: POWER! But the good things he did? the self sacrifice? the will to act to save others and not care about his own safety? that is not He-Man! That is Adam! It is still him who makes those decisions! Even without power, he would still at least TRY to do all those heroic acts! Not because it is his destiny, not because it is fate, not because he is He-Man, BUT he does it because it is the right thing to do and it is something he WANTS to do, regardless if he has the power or not!
And maybe, IF Smith is trying to save this tragedy, this is what will get to Teela! She sees how hard Adam trys (IF he is still alive), probably see him fail, questioning him on why he is doing all this dispite being powerless, and him pointing to her that it is the right thing, that he does it because he wants to do it, and that the moment he has to back down, is the moment he TRULY dies, not physically, but figuratively, letting EVERYONE down, only because he didn't try or didn't try hard enough.
BUT I have no hopes left. But I would be willing to watch the next season if it is going on like this in SOME way.
Wow, you guys are legit based. Thank you for unabashedly sharing Strong and Honest opinions. Not enough of this anymore these days.
TeeIa was NEVER this narcissistic or willing to just throw away everything she worked for. They just mess up EVERYTHING.
She's just such a terrible person here. I don't understand how they expected us to like her.
I'm sorry that trauma is such a horrible thing to experience. Teela was perfectly in line with trauma survivors.
@@saberteck4176 I think KS figured that this is just what Iadies are like, which says a LOT about him.
@@ScottBoydathome No she wasn't. Her best friend sacrificed himself for her, she didn't mourn him, she didn't care about him, she just said terrible things about him and only cared about herself. She's a terrible person.
...She made a decision on the day her best friend died, finding out he, her father, and two of her closest friend had been lying to her about his leading a double life to here as another of their friends, and subsequently took it badly and cut off all ties. All of the people closest to her seemingly didn't trust her and now the one closest to her was dead.
Subsequently she spent years embittered and resentful of the magic that allowed him to fool her and seemed to ruin her life. Despite that, she still used her skills to help people, and easily found purpose in undoing the greatest damage of the final battle to save the world, albeit with reluctance to trust again and without enthusiasm for the magic involved.
She's messed up, but not irretrievable. That's her character arc here. And that's not narcissism, she's just really pissed at her friends for literally lying to her for years. So she's not a perfect person and let hurt and mourning effect her to make a bad decision and stewed in it for years. It's not like she's being lauded for it, she's repeatedly shown to be in the wrong about that and her growing out of it and reconnecting with the people who love her is a pretty solid arc if you're not expecting her to be limited to the characterization of a show aimed at preteens.
Kevin Smith several months ago: "MOTU is all about He-Man!"
Kevin Smith last week: "I promise on my daughters life that I didn't lie."
Kevin Smith now: "SUCKERS! I already fed my daughter to Harvey Weinstein!"
She got off lucky, just being fed to him.
OOOF that hits harder.
Ouch!
All the signs were there.
Netflix.
Kevin Smith.
"Current Year."
And yet people are acting shocked at this show.
18:20 Regarding women writers: not only were there excellent women writers of traditional rugged "manly" sword-and-sorcery (C. L. Moore, Leigh Brackett, C. J. Cherry, Andre Norton, Tanith Lee), there were women writers *on the original He-Man* especially Gwen Wetzler, who directed several episodes including "The Secret of the Sword" crossover movie with She-Ra. Its absolutely possible for women to wrote classic style sword-and-sorcery while not being biased.
Maybe in older days yes. Nowadays you'll laughed out of th ed writing room for it.for the style you suggest. A woman would have to go independent.
@@xenosayain1506 what? What does that mean?
Also they called the female character's designs "unrealistic" when they were rotoscoped
@@Hitoshuratdn simple. To write adequate feminine characters in a mainstream studio will make you an outcast and likley fired or underemployed. Your ideas would not be used in most cases. Write and publish independently, you have the freedom to make those choices.
There are great female writers in this day and age too, video game writer Amy Hennig is my favorite example.
Funny how whenever you look at articles of why Revelations is being trashed by fans, the writers of said articles say that the fans are pissed and crying "woke!", but the vast majority of fans making videos and commenting on why they hated the show are actually saying "BAD WRITING!". Golly gee whiz, I wonder why those writers would be ignoring this overwhelmingly common opinion.
Agreed. I think the "Subverted!" "Woke!" seems over exaggerated. but the writing point is dead on. The actual set up (He-man dying and what came after) would work just fine, and even Teela's narcissistic actions would be fine. But the problem is it is senseless and comes to no conclusion. She doesn't change. Her freakout over Adam's death and the cover up is unreasonable, and given the personality given to her engineer companion, Evil-Lyn, or Orko, it would and should have been called out. if the writing had any conclusion to it. The underworld part was worse than simply the whole "I'm afraid of my strength", the worst thing is that it makes no f'ing sense. If anything Teela is clearly afraid of being weak, so why not just say that. Might actually have been a nice foil against Adam, who (at least in the adaptions I've seen) is a little more ambivalent about being He-man then some one with Revelation Teela's character would be.
Of course some of this might be a function of the thing only having 6 episodes, but that is Netflix's choice. If you want 6 episodes, write for 6 episodes.
...because the low-budget animated toy advertisements, limited by having to have a morals due to Standards and Practices of the time, had "great writing"
@@lazerhosen good point haha still, I'm judging the Netflix show should be judged on its own merit not pining over the anachronism that is the original. For example, these blokes are completely OUT OF THIER MINDS regarding She-ra, that one was stellar, even if you are looking at from a questionable admiration of the old one
another thing i love about modern holly wood: every movie has amaizing costume design, music, special effects, animation, sound design, and characterisation while awful story, choreography, actors, and lines. basicly everything made by the hardworking people at the bottom is top quality, but the suits ,writers, and actors that are calling the shots consistently make the worst decisions.
*IRONIC* ,- sheev palpatine
I have never watched the OG He Man or the 2002 one but when I saw that netflix was making a new one I was pretty happy since it looked good in the trailer and they got Mark Hamill in it so I expected something good that I could watch with my old man for some quality father and son time and when I heard what they did it felt like a kick in the balls, I felt betrayed
Same here. I never cared for the older shows, since the OG was before my time, and I had other shows to watch when the 2002 show was airing, but I decided to give the Netflix one a shot when I heard about it….only to get garbage for my time.
Just sit and watch the 2002 show with your dad. If he was a fan of the OG show then the 2002 reboot is a worthy successor. And it has the Snake-Men in the second season who never made it into the OG cartoon.
Honestly, the scene with Scareglow where we Teela is fighting He-Man I was super into it, I was thinking that they were going to lean into her being very rude and overall bitchy to everyone as a way to cover for the fact that her best friend didn't share his deepest secret with her, that scene could have turned Teela all the way around for me... and then they fucked it up.
And, well, Technically, She never specifically asked "Adam, are you He-Man?" He didn't lie, He simply redirected any questions that came close. < See Kevin Smith, we can play semantics as well. >
@@cdcastro2503 That's still an omission if you wanna go that far. But the fact of the matter is that it was a state secret, of the people who knew about it, none of them knew because they were told:
Orko and Cringer followed Adam in secret and saw him become He-Man for the first time.
Man-at-Arms and the Sorceress were the ones who convinced Adam to become He-Man.
The Queen recognized him in his He-Man form.
Even the King, Adam's own father, didn't know, why should Teela?
I was expecting that so hard, when it didn't happen, I felt like I was misinterpreting everything
@@calebfasnacht8698 Honestly, it feels like the show's entire purpose is to gaslight fans and make people question themselves.
Ouch, big Fail of the 3 around 19:15,
not understanding stuff and missing some points entirely. Yikes there.
This show had almost God levels of disrespect for both the franchise and the fans. To say that this series was trash, is an insult to actual trash.
*Satan Levels* Mate
The "And we had to live with it" reminds me of Hillary Clinton's quote: “Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”
AKA: "Man dies, woman most affected"
Not to play devil's advocate, but she does have one point in the sense that the relatives and friends of the deceased are affected and should be accounted for as well. However, she is wrong that they are the primary victims of war. Respect should be given to both the deceased and their loved ones (arguably equally, as the survivors should be given support to help move on).
@@cadethumann8605 I don't think anyone was arguing against that, necessarily. I mean, if the quote here is correct she mentions the relatives as being the "primary victims" which is the center of the issue as I see it.
@@tentacledood5784 Hence why I said she was wrong that women and ither survivors are the primary victims. Had she worded it as "ALSO victims of war", I would have little issue.
*sigh* Politicians these days. (But lets not discuss such matters for obvious reasons)
@@cadethumann8605 Agreed! And yeah, Politicians these days...
Only thing I liked was Orko's "You shall not pass!" scene.
Damn, he could have been a better protagonist than Teela.
Around 4:00, “One of the worst shows in recent memory” alright, that cinches it. Officially starting a petition to get Shad and the boys to watch Batwoman. It *needs* to happen.
I think they have, that's where Shad got the dual sided morningstar-chucks from.
@@cormoran2303 I'm pretty sure Shad said he was reacting to the ""weapon"" in question because the EFAP crew had brought it up to him. I don't think he's actually seen the show yet.
No, don't break him
some of the reason Shad is (rightfully) so angry at this is becuase it's something so personal for him. Batwoman wouldn't have that effect so I doubt he'd have such a viceral reaction to it
@@backslash4141 I don’t know, I’m not sure of Shad’s connection with Batman (which the CW seems to go out of their way to ruin) but the horrifically broken woke politics are enough for me to want Shad and Oz to watch it.
The fact that Netflix isn’t talking about “Part 2” of this show says LOADS about how well this went.
Well they now probably considering what to do:
1. Release part 2 and continue this garbage.
2. Not releasing it becouse it will be disaster.
3. Delay and try to remake it...........................however they are greedy bastards so this choice has quite low chance to sucess
@@DeinosCZ I dunno. The chances of the third option aren't that abysmal as we have an example of fan pushback causing some change and paying off:
Sonic The Hedgehog
I see Options 1 and 2 being more likely but stranger things have happened.
Well, they canceled "The Dark Crystal", because it was awesome, so clearly they will continue MotU:R, because it's kinda bad
@@NathanCassidy721 Except the Sonic issue was about a character design for a movie's CGI. While they did change it in response to fan backlash, I don't think they ended up doing anything but ordinary post-production work. ASince there's no fixing this mess without a complete rewrite, odds are Netflix will just release the second half without fanfare.
@@angrymokyuu1951 The fact that they did it in the first place when they could have easily told the fans to "Fuck off." That's the larger point.
When Adam asked Teela if he should come back, she just turns around and walks away. Like she didn’t even want him to come back. The journey wasn’t about bringing He-Man back. Totally agree.
Now, see, I think there's some defense for this. Teela doesn't want Adam to risk his place in paradise. That's why she doesn't explain to him what's going on; she knows that he'll want to come back and fight. She's wanting to protect him because if he dies again, he'll lose his place in Preternia.
Only problem at this time she didn’t know that. Only Adam know after he talked to Moss Man
Plus if she did know. She had a very funny way of showing (if that was the case)
@@TheNoonish ” She was keeping a secret from Adam to protect him, setting her up to have a "Revelation" about Adam's own secret about He-Man and to realize why it was a secret.” Which only begs the question, why was Adam keeping a secret for *exactly same reasons* a deal breaker to Teela? Let me answer that, lazy progressive writing.
How about before that when Teela's mom (Sorceress) asked her to save the entire universe because it waas literally going to VANISH which of course would include Teela herself, and she walks away and says no (until Cringer of all people had to convince her lol). Absolute shit writing and character assassination
The show would have been fine or even good if they had simply begun with a few "old school" episodes to reintroduce the characters and build up a bit to the big "death of he-man" event. AFTER scratching the nostalgia itch, a multi-episode arc where all the minor characters all get to shine could be fascinating, not hated. Starting with the death of he-man and jumping straight into an unfamiliar universe with unremembered-but-now-changed secondary characters was a braindead waste of the nostalgia the show was riding on. I think too much cocaine is going into these netflix shows lately and not enough actual writing.
As much as the "show" talked about controlling ones own fate, they sure get Driven by their emotions most of the show.
“Girls make out with each other and are just friends. It’s a common thing.” Uhhhhh no? I can’t speak for every girl but speaking as someone who is female and has MANY gal pals we do not make out with someone who is just a friend. I’m with Shad. Strong disagree to his buddy.
I'm friends with a girl from high school she tells me stuff all the time about making out with another girl and they were still just friends so the co host isn't lying
It’s often the wannabe bad girls trying to look edgy.
The creeps just assume that all women are lesbians.
It may be ancedotal but alot of girls i knew in high school were reeeeally touchy feely. They would mouth to mouth kiss all the bloody time and giggle about it, straight girls with boy friends might I add
@@SonofIiberty still not the majority.
"But I died!" and "we had to live with it" is the equivalent of "women have always been the primary victims of war, losing husband's and brothers" 😆
Well, being dead you dont really notice.
Living peolple have to deal with your death.
But I get your point. The entitlement is amazing.
Especially when she goes off on Adams fucking parents who just lost their son.
@@CriticalCoen “we’ll being dead you really don’t notice” that only works if you believe death is the end, if not then it doesn’t have a leg to stand on, and in universe it’s shown to not be the end I. The show since he comes back.
So basically, it was literal insertion of trendy political garbage that derailed the show so hard, why am I not surprised?
IIRC in the original cartoons in the 80's Adam was intentionally playing the incompetent bumbling prince. He did so so no one would think for a moment he was really He-Man since he runs away moments before He-Man arrives nearly every episode.
Yeah, but he stepped up when he had to like the occasions he lost the Sword of Power.
@@jackdaone6469 There was also help from Queen Marlena. Never any Canon confirmation that she knew, but we all know she did.
That's also why he wore pink and had the haircut. Those are common for immature nobles. The men wore red. And the children, pink.
@@cdcastro2503 - in the OG episode Rainbow Warrior Queen Marlena reveals she knows Adam is He-Man.
Okay, just got through episode one and I've come to the conclusion that between the Clerks animated series and this atrocity, Kevin Smith should never be allowed anywhere near animated media. Ever.
Putting aside the half-hearted animation and the terrible voice casting,
Teela is a privileged bitch who apparently thinks the whole world revolved around her, despite being insanely incompetent at every action she's taken.
She couldn't once make a decision without daddy telling her what she should do.
When she's fighting in Gray Skull, she goes and helps tie down the bloody horse???? FFS!!!
The king and queen find out their only child is dead and she cries that no one told her Adam was He-Man. Then her father is banished from the castle and what does she do? She quits in a huff and blames everyone but her incompetent self! Seriously!
Complete garbage.
The one thing that stuck with me is the comment that they’re not bringing He-Man back, they’re bringing the sword back. And what my mind immediately goes to is Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End, because they weren’t bringing back Jack Sparrow either; they just needed the piece of eight he was carrying. Which is a pretty spot-on comparison of ‘he’s dead and everyone’s reacting about it’.
I haven't seen this show, but when I heard that a major plot point was based on the trope of someone getting upset because someone kept a reasonable secret from them...I have always thought that was a bad trope.
As a girl I can confirm MUST girls DONT kiss each other 🤣🤣🤣, Teela and Andra interactions are NOT the norm between female friends not even best friends
I'm a guy, but I have a lot of friends that are girls and two slightly older cousins that I'm really close with, so I have seen what girl friendship looks like more than I'd like to. And... No kisses, no making out, no super long gazing into each other's eyes with foreheads touching. If anything girl friendship isn't that different from boy friendship.
I've seen girls be close and huggy with each other but nothing like what they do with Teela and Andra. There's clear baiting here
@@coolman229absolutely clear baiting. That is not how female friends act.
Not even at sleepovers?! Lol
THIS JUST IN: A bunch of Chads sit at their round table and trash talk a terrible show, while giving great advice.
You misspelled "choads."
@@danieldugan1182 Choads? The Stick Man? Seriously?
@@autobotstarscream765 calls it as I sees it. A bunch of butt hurt guys complaining someone ruined their childhood* and proving they never understood the original show in the first place. H-M:ATMoU was an incredibly subversive show for it's time. Let's just focus on the "too much Teela" everyone is complaining about. SHE WAS THE ONLY OTHER CHARACTER TO BE IN EVERY EPISODE BESIDES HE-MAN HIMSELF! There were even episodes that focused on her as the main protagonist, with He-Man being a secondary character for that half hour. Furthermore, with no magical powers Teela held her owe, nay completed dominated the same enemies Adam need a magic sword to defeat.
So yes, a could of limp twisted choads.
*Kevin Smith ruined your childhood? Give me a break. You know who ruins childhoods? Michael Bay. Michael Bay bends your childhood over and hang rapes it like it was the new guy in "prison is hell and we're gonna prove it to you by being way to graphic, because as a writer/producer/director I don't understand subtlety and shock value is all I can pull off cause I'm a no talent hack" gritty FX/HBO/STARS formulaic one-hour drama series that we all pretend is so great, but is really kinda shitty and overdone, but we can't admit it cause nobody at work would talk to us cause we have no real personality.... Sorry, where was I? Oh, yeah. Michael Bay is a destroyer of all things good and anyone who is complaining MoTU is too "woke" has a small penis and an inferiority complex about their masculinity.
Mic drop.
@@danieldugan1182 I have half a mind to toss them both in the bin and wonder if Zack Snyder is really a good director as well, "untouchable masterpieces" such as 300 and Man of Steel seem weird and boring in hindsight upon recent rewatches.
@@autobotstarscream765 or maybe three guys sitting in a room filled with phallic objects, just like watching shirtless men...
It was He-man AND Shera as a packaged deal. He-man was the boy show with the male lead and Shera was the girl show with the female lead. My sister and I watched both because they where cool shows (and toys).
I'm 45 was the exact demo for He-Man. I had so many of the toys and watched the cartoon religiously. When She-Ra came out, I'll admit I wasn't as into it, but I never thought it was something evil. It was just the girls show for this. The Barbie to my GI Joe. It was cool for what it was but not my thing. I still watched.
Sure it was a boy show, but when we were little my sister looked forward to He Man as much as I did (and I liked Sheera Princess of Power as much as her) kids don't care about gender
And they represent the basic concept of the sacred/divine masculine and feminine. Which is embodied by their character design concepts in the older series.
The original shows including the 2002 remake of he-man paid proper respect to the symbiotic relationship between the sacred fem & sacred masculine. But these new shows were never about boys and girls getting along and what not.
This is my first time watching Game Knights, and I love the commentary! Not sure if anyone’s pointed this out, but I do get a bit of a chuckle from our three hosts looking like Pokémon evolutions of each other
It's your first time too? Awesome!
The biggest counterpoint to the whole "biological imperative" thing is that ultimately it boils down to individual choice. I'm with you on being disgusted with those who belittle motherhood, but I'd never push anyone to pursue homemaker status against their will or claim they'll regret not making time for their family.
This idea you have about embracing your identity as a hero, in Batman Beyond, there's a few occasions where we learn that Bruce Way doesn't call himself Bruce in his head and that he identifies Bruce Way as the mask. I love it.
That's literally the theme of every Batman movie...
in the end it doesnt realy matter its just another side of identity politics,we all have the hero fantasy side in us,everyone has there own batman hero personality and there everyday bruce wayne version.
the movie suckerpunch is a good example of that,that girl that escaped into her mind beeing this amazing fighter,its what we all have,most people have this idee of there own heroes journey.
That's how Batman is. Bruce Wayne is the secret identity and the real him is Batman.
@@Obversechaos I remember that once Wonder Woman put her lasso around both Superman and Batman and asked them who the really were, Superman said he was Clark Kent, but Batman said that his true identity is Batman
@@lancedunning2672 Exactly and that is why Kill Bill 2 was wrong. :)
"Who wrote this stuff?"
Kevin Smith and his wife's boyfriend. lol
I think he says "wife probably"
I would also like to note that Sarah Michelle Gellar's voice is a horrible choice for Teela... Or maybe it's the perfect choice for THIS Teela! 😆
It doesn't match because they made teela super masculine looking. If they actually made her feminine, the voice would be fine.
Very whiny voice. Good choice for teela and her feeling.
Yeah she has a really high pitched voice. It worked for her character in rebels but it really doesn’t work here
Yes! This right here. So missmatched
My wife immediately pointed that out when she watched it.
Sounds like they vandalized He-Man the same way they vandalized the Belmont's in Netflix's version of Castlevania.
⚠️💩 *What they did to HE-MAN would be like if you had a really expensive, original, mint condition, in-box He-Man figure (that your long deceased GrandPop gave you when you were 6 - but because you already had one he told you you keep it in the package until your were older) and, without your knowledge, Kevin Smith breaks into your house and steals that figure, pulls it out of the package, repaints it to look like TEELA and then gives it back to you as some big SURPRISE!!*
*Not only did he break into your home and destroy your memories and your expensive collectible **_but he’s expecting you to be simply overjoyed and thank him._*
_That’s_ MOTU: Revelations
He-Man... probably the most OPTMISTIC hero from the 80`s cartoons, allways face evil with a smile, positive atitude guy and give us a lesson in the end. A real EXAMPLE for kids of all ages. This iconic character deserves bether than this shit show. Thanks guys.
AND… he was also a scared weak kid who heard the call to action over and over and every time he got over confident in his abilities, reality hurt him and forced him to rly on those bonds.
Top notch episodic storytelling
Funny you mention the 80's cartoons and their heroes.
Kevin Smith: "I'm so much smarter than the people who made these properties, why didn't they kill He-Man? _Repeatedly?"_
Optimus Prime and Duke: "Don't you think they tried that?"
Heck, I saw an episode yesterday where Adam and King Randor were clearly having difficulty communicating with each other and they end up reconciling. And Orko reminding kids to say "I love you" to their parents, even if it's hard. For some, that may not work, but it's a simple yet profound lesson that's great for everyone, not just children.
Nicely said
Funniest thing about these kinds of "you trashed my childhood show!" videos is the nostalgia goggles. He-Man was a toy advertisement wrapped up in low-budget animation with very minimal writing, and it by not means tried to tackle any big issues. The toys literally came first, they threw together all the show and backstory to SELL TOYS. It was literally not a "great show" or anything, nor has it ever been. I think everybody needs to go back and re-watch some episodes.
The worst thing about this show is that the concept itself is actually not bad at all however the biggest problem here is that the pieces are completely in the wrong places, first off make Duncan the lead character and you don’t disgrace the man; have him be stoic and wise as he is the Man-At-Arms but have him experience many moments of doubts and fears to show him struggle in a world without Adam. (Similar to early S5 Samurai Jack) Orko should be the secondary main character and travel with Duncan every step of the journey, have him built up to be more serious and getting much stronger with his magic; there’s no need to kill him off as he’s far from a screw up and can be very helpful to Duncan on their quest while being his moral compass and also constantly struggling with his own inner demons.
Teela should stay to protect the kingdom and she should be a compassionate leader to her troops while Duncan’s away and comforting Adam’s grieving parents, also have her design be a mixture of both the 80’s and 2003 version (no mental illness haircut whatsoever) and finally you have Adam sacrifice himself in the fifth episode while not emasculating him whatsoever as he was the original hero of the story, treat him with respect so that when he’s gone the impact will actually mean SOMETHING.
That’s how you do it right, I doubt anyone will read the whole thing but I just wanted to put my two cents out there as this storyline CAN work with actual good writing and setup.
I don't want to pull an ACKSHUALLY, but it is worth saying that the reason Orko's magic doesn't work properly is that magic works differently on his homeworld as opposed to on Eternia. Orko can stay a comic relief, but his development can come more from better self-control and planning (not trying to solve everything with one spell), and thinking quicker on his feet to adapt to when his magic doesn't do what he wants to.
I agree with your ideas. Sound more cohesive and makes sense.
Oz enlisted to swear for Shad is the best thing I've seen all week.
We missed Skeletor's laugh, one-liners and insults
I feel it's the height of irony that Kevin Smith became famous playing Silent Bob, but he **CAN'T SHUT UP**.
Teela's charakter is in a nutshell toxic masculinity in a womans body lol
Are you sure it isn’t a man’s body?
@@Hawkcam1996 imma spoil season two for you before it’s even out, she’s trans. Or would it be he?
@@acatwithafancyhat5782 Not really a spoiler. You can tell just by looking. I already predicted she’ll come out as trans in Part 2.
Gina Carano exudes wholesome sexyness. And I didn't even know that was possible.
"Can you imagine what the Mary Sue would be afraid of?"
I dunno, being brought down to normalcy and needing to act with autonomy instead of being carried by the writing?
"Her OWN POWER!"
Should've figured she wouldn't be that modest.
The part that is the saddest to me is that we had a great He-man show for the first battle in the first few minutes and that's all we got.
To be fair, if she'd been using anger at the perceived betrayal as an unhealthy coping mechanism of sorts, and later had a breakdown where she fully expressed her grief over the fact that he was dead and some sort of regret at something or other she'd done while channeling that anger (maybe breaking a gift he'd given her, or destroying a painting or statue of him that was the last such thing made while he was alive, or something similarly significant), and this was all in a relatively short period of time, I'd be able to see that as a believable character arc. Not a healthy one, but a believable one.
Once upon a time, a boy named Shad saw another boy named Adam turned into a super hero with the power of a sword. So began a grand quest to find a sword that would turn him into a super hero... A few dozen swords later... Shad looks up and finds that he already has "the POWER!"
It was not ever a sword, it was MACHICOLATIONSSSSSSS!!!
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This show wasn't completely horrible when Teela wasn't' on screen.
Unfortunately she was on screen for like 99% of the episodes.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
In my head canon, Teela died with Prince Adam in the first episode and was replaced by Faker.
Don't forget Teela was in every episode of He-Man & the masters of the universe too i really don't see the problem
@@simbabear Shad explained the problem in the video. She was an unlikable, selfish, self-absorbed jerk.
@@simbabear The difference is that the original Teela was a selfless and loyal heroic character while the new Teela is a selfish and immature narcissistic character.
You know how Link in Breath of the Wild doesn’t talk because of the stress of his position? That made Link pretty interesting, being stoic is not a downside
ti even hit harder when you read mipha diary, where we can "see" link before and after he was given his position... and how that affect him to some degree
I just assumed he was mute
@@NautilusSSN571 link got mute due to the pressure of his position, literally, the world depends on him, he is literally carrying the world weight. he stopped talking because he doesn't want to show "weakness" or worst a situation by saying something incorrect
@@NautilusSSN571 I thought that too, as a side affect of not having voice actors for the early games
Well, I'm gonna talk about MY feelings right now: I'm feeling GRATEFULL that I watched this video before I watched any more episodes of this TERRIBLE series. Dude, in the very moment that the King diminished Adam saying (basically) that his son have never made him proud I noticed something was very wrong. The thing only went from bad to worse when Teela continued talking.
All He-Man cartoons have always been about teaching morals and good behavior, and one of the most important traits of good people is loyalty. It was bad enough that the king, in his grief, banished the man-at-arms for his lies, but didn't give a sh*t about his own queen lying too. Yeah, it wasn't a trait of that same king in the old cartoons, but it's understandable. He has lost his son, and the projected his angry in someone that have been more loyal to the prince than to he king himself. Bad, but understandable. But Teela? Dude, she should have been executed right there! No one can talk to his/her king or queen the way she did! And the most shocking part: if her loyalty to the kingdom meaned so little to her, why and how could she earn the tittle that she have earner on the very beginning of that episode? She is loyal only to herself and her pride...
You know, I have been afraid of not being a good writter. I have been doubting of my own capacities to write and publish my content. But after watching The Legend of the Lake (that one with the girl from "13 reasons why" being merlin's daughter) and this 1st episode of Masters of the Universe: Revelations, I know that not only in Brazil but in the whole world there are plenty sh*tty writters publishing and making money with garbage... That makes me feel I have a chance.
For the longest time i’ve wanted The Chronicles Of Narnia to be adapted into a full 7 movie series, one per book. Now I honestly dont want it anymore, because the risk of it being slaughtered by political correctness is just too great these days
I understand the original show was rotoscoped. I'm sure they used ideal human models, but coloring over that still makes the animated image as realistic as you can get
Teela's model was female bodybuilder from the time... Midnight's Edge showed picture or both HeMan and Teela's model actor from then
Before the TV series, Filmation did an advertisement for Mattel for the original toyline. That advertising spot was rotoscoped, and consequently looks notably different from the actual Filmation series. The Filmation series itself was not rotoscoped.
Here is the only example of Rotoscoping from Filmation that was ever made. ua-cam.com/video/09f00S57DG0/v-deo.html
@@slikedragon Ummm; he-man was rotoscoped; there are pictures from it :) vh-yes.tumblr.com/post/119505880164/he-man-and-the-masters-of-the-universe-rotoscope and the actual he-man youtube page - says otherwise too ;) ua-cam.com/video/A3e2stGobpM/v-deo.html Not so much in this video but others ones ;)
The original He-man was Rotoscoped. Rotoscoping, for those who do not know, is when you film a person doing something and then paint over the result.
So kinda like Joel haver animations. I was wondering what that style was called
Rotoscoping was done all the time. In truth it's still done with cartoons all the time. Though now with it being digital you can modify those animations to hide it better.
But even Disney did a lot of Rotoscoping even if they did modify things a little more. Drawing each frame by hand one by one is just expensive and animation doesn't have nearly the audiance it does today. Computers really have led to a golden age of animation as you can actually cut a lot of corners without the quality suffering too much. You don't need to have Disney level resources to make something decent looking.
The time has come! Shad rage is legendary and he always brings the receipts. 😁
I already got the major gripes, that they've sidelined the hero from his own franchise in favor of a very unlikable replacement. Can't wait to hear what else they messed up lol.
Teela is going to be gay.
Yes He-Man was sidelined for most od the series. BUT as someone who has lost a person they care about Teela is an accurate portrayal of grief. At the point we see her she has not gotten past her anger. Her being hurt about not knowing Adam was He-Man and her arrogant attitude is setting her up for a redemption arc where she has ro learn to fight with Adam instead of his alter ego. And I can see the next arc She-Ra falling to skeletor and Teela being forced to take up her sword and gaining THE POWER thus finally learning why Adam didn't want the world to know he what he was by noone realizing as She-ra it was teela beneath. Third arc be classic heman power trip with Mark Hamil going full joker
I have not and will not watch that show but one thing I did notice was that He Man no longer bears the Maltese cross, which is a very ancient symbol of honor, virtue and self sacrifice.
Mattel asked Filmation to create the 'transformation' from Adam to He-Man because at the time, comic book superheroes with secret identities (Superman, Spiderman, Shazam, etc) were popular. They wanted to have this same dynamic for the show, and ultimately worked this into the comics and the lore.
As Shad was talking about destiny a dialog from my favorite move popped in to my head
Cori: "I guess you found your destiny"
Sean: "Cori, I lied. The Zoanoids weren't the failed experiment the Guyvers were. Out of control, it's what Guyver means. I have no destiny."
Cori: Place hand on side of Sean's masked face "you made your own."
Just thought I would share that with the class.
Great quote. "Guyver: Dark Hero" is one of my favourite movies too.
Definitely, the scene where the king banished Man-At-Arms and Teela threw her temper tantrum made me decide not to watch any more episodes. That wasn’t the real king Randor or the real Teela - they were acting more like angry 5 year olds than a experienced, wise king or a loyal champion of the realm respectively (honestly, Teela was effectively the kingdom’s military leader and she just abandoned her duties because she was upset Adam didn’t reveal his secret ID to her. WTF?!)
Basically kevin smith made Teela to be a narcissistic 💩 person who never care about the kingdom people or anyone else only herself .
@@superstd Exactly. The real Teela was all about duty and honor - a hero. The new one, from what I’ve heard, not only abandoned her kingdom and father, but barely could be bothered to even save the universe - the opposite of a hero, and stupid as well. It’s just horrible how he ruined Teela’s character.
What you were watching were skinsuits of the old characters.
@@superstd She literally made it all about herself. That’s the plot in a nutshell.
This video made me realize how pure Shad is. I envy him for that.
One of the most inspiring moments in any piece of fiction to me is when a character is faced with terrible evil, doom has surrounded them, and in the clutches of darkness far beyond their power to combat, alone, when and where no one would know of their doing, they elect to stand in defiance.
Favorite fictional character of all time is Ollanius Pius.
I don't get what you guys are complaining about. Girls get She-Ra and girls get She-Man. ...wait.
I've been looking forward to this.
Twice the pride, double the fall.
To the show or this video?
It says something when skeletor is the most likable character despite being the bad guy
This is a story about a nuetral evil character who has somehow convinced everyone they're good
I just had to see for myself. It's so bad that it is even below a standard of maggots.
The "man/men" part in words like "policeman", "beastmen" (fantasy race), "elves and men", ect. doesn't refer to the male sex at all. In old English and the Germanic languages "man" meant "human" or "person". The word for "man" and "woman" back then was "wer" and "wyf". You can see the word "wer" in "werewolf" (so technically a female werewolf should be called a "wyfwolf" lol). The word "wyf" likely transformed into the word "wife" that we have today.
I'll just never understand why female warriors can't be feminine. Why do they have to be stripped of their womanhood when they pick up a weapon? You have female athletes that are super buff but still hold onto to their womanly behaviors. Serena Williams is an example. Ronda Rousey is another.
Yeah! Maybe People could try to give female characters firearms, so they can be powerful and lethal, without the need for them to look like a female Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Nothing against female athletes though.
@@adrigl3371 Most female athletes aren't Schwarzenegger level of muscular anyway. Most of them look fit and with the correct clothing, they can look feminine without showing their muscles.
@@adrigl3371 hell, you can have them look like female Arnold Schwarzenegger, and still have them be fairly feminine. Perhaps not girly, as having them be all nail painty and squeamish when they are clearly juggernauts just clashes horribly and doesn't work out very well, but certainly very motherly. Much like how you can have fairly small and weak looking male characters, and still have them be masculine. Perhaps not like james bond or a terminator, able to physically overpower or skillfully outfight opponent's, but putting themselves in harms way to directly support there friends and to protect there families. It's only people with a very narrow view of what masculinity and femmininity have been portrayed as in media who think that all female characters are girly and they break tropes by having them be burly and agressive, and that all male characters are big and punchy and they break tropes by having them be flimsy and emotional.
I think all that makes sense. Always hard to tell.
Thank you it annoys me that for woman to be a strong character they have to be basically a man, when real life female fighters and athletes still hold their femininity but even super heroes and fantasy fighters can be both think of Xena and many older DC and Marvel Female Heroes. Let women be women and strong and they don't need to be sexualized to be shown as a woman or express their femininity. (By the way I am a guy and think this, hoping my nieces can be themselves and still feel strong)
To me, it's a recent thing. Ever since TLoU2. I don't think it is inherently bad, but it can be too on the nose. And it shouldn't the primary indicator of a physically strong female character.
Doesn't have to be physical either for a charactrr to be "strong" in the general sense.
1:13:53 I’m all for characters expressing their feelings in a way that doesn’t involve violence but holy hell, please only open up to people that you trust (a message I haven’t seen in any modern media). these shows have their characters talk about their feelings so randomly and that’s dangerous af in real life where so many people can take advantage of it
it’s always the same, they take a good message and twist it into something ridiculous. Loki be like yeah sure, be vulnerable in front of people who verbally abuse you 👍
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Shad’s aside glance when he says “She was becoming THE Man” speaks volumes about this shit.
I'm a woman myself and I'm pissed the fact that it's all about girl power how dare they replace this female over He-Man how they do that I'm very disappointed that he man was only in two episodes what the what was the point of this series it wasn't about He-Man and how they traumatised all the fans who's been watching He-Man from the 80s by killing him twice another thing why are they trying to make women being men and men be more feminine and weak is time to start questioning these directors and Hollywood and he's elite is starting to piss me off because everybody's talking about what we are seeing.
MotU Revelation show is so so so bad. Kevin Smith should quit making anything, retire, move to some far away land and stop bothering people. Ridiculously bad decisions by everyone involved in making this show.