I get the feeling that the demographics were more rigid about the types and styles of stories and art they featured in the past and are slowly becoming less so, to the point where it's often hard to guess what type of magazine a lot of new manga are being printed in. I find this thread to contain a good contribution to explaining the distinction, or lack thereof, between _shoujo_ and _josei_ manga: anilist.co/forum/thread/9886 Probably because _josei_ lacks the numbers to make itself a clearly distinct demographic in the world of manga magazines.
ive mistaken these seinen for josei (devils line, emma, after the rain) and these shonen for shojo (kono oto tomare, romantic killer) As someone who loves shojosei, i love that i can get a similar vibe/style frm some shonen or seinen series
@@MangaCrash to make 4 videos goin into more depth about seinin and shoujo Im still a 13 yr old male but I love how seinin is more mature than shonen, and even though im not interested int romance and slice of life I would love to see you do that.
Nice video. Another interesting thing to note is that the work itself doesn't determine the genre, but the magazine it's published in. You could potentially end up with situations where thematically a work is mature but in a shonen manga.
@@MangaCrash Oh my bad. But after reading about SJ+ I think their content is also crossing sainen territory because less strick rules about sex and violence.
thanks for the informative video. It actually inspired me to check out more Josei series because it seems like the demographic has a big focus on very emotionally mature and honest stories that explore interesting sets of concepts, circumstances, and ideas without being pretty obviously fucked up like seinen series are. Also, in general, I have seen too few series in that demographic. the only true Josei series I have seen are March Comes in Like a Lion, Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, and Violet Evergarden. Personally, I don't consider Chiyahafuru to be a true Josei story. in terms of emotional maturity, it is closer to a shounen series than anything else. I have been meaning to check out Nana, Nodame Cantabile, Wotakoi for ages. I also want to watch Honey and Clover and Paradise Kiss because they are made by the authors of 3-gatsu and nana, respectively note: when I see something categorized as a "Josei" I don't think: "oh, it's in a Josei magazine"; I think is:" oh so it's an emotionally mature and honest series that depicts people and life in a very realistic and honest manner. and unlike most seinen, the ugliness of the world isn't portrayed by obvious physical violence but in a more subtle and personal way" that's why I consider March Comes in Like a Lion to be a Josei series and not Chihayafuru. it's more about what "type" of story it is, rather than what audience it is trying to appeal to.
Thank you! I also have to read more josei manga, I've only read about 3 or 4, and none of them were necessarily the big titles. So I plan to change that this year.
You forgot to mention that Teenagers are searching for things that stimulate their imagination , emotional rollercoaster , things that make them think and push the boundaries of anything they've already see ; that's the period when they start watching horror movies, playing violent video games and enjoying them; it's completely natural and makes sense for them to read something containing gore , violence and nudity (when you watch "IT" , porn , play Dark Souls 3 , there is nothing preventing you to read Berserk). My little sisters started watching a lot of horror movies when they were only both 13 and 15 while I wasn't particularly fan of them (and some of them were age restricted to them but they didn't care). That's why I'm convinced that a 3rd of Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk , Monster , Kingdom fanbases are actually boys between 15 and 17 (I and my sister watched Monster when we were respectively 15 and 17 and it wasn't more complex for us to understand and we enjoyed it). Cuz it corresponds to things they're looking for and enjoying . As a personal experience , I played GTA Vice city at the age of 12 , watched B Gata H Kei at the age of 14 , read Ayako by Osamu Tezuka (while having nudity in it) at the age of 15 , watched Monster at the age of 17 and not to mention every romance and Slice of Life Seinen anime I've watched while being under the age of 18 and also the fact that my Younger sister watched all of them at a much younger age.
You're right. Tho I think everyone's experience is different. I personally started watching horror movies regularly at the tender age of 8, and it wasn't much later that I started playing horror games for example. My sister's favorite game at age 10 was GTA SA too, lol Demographics are but a guideline, and yes, I believe a lot of teens read a lot of Seinen... well, I don't believe, I know. I feel like I did a better point of all of this in my Seinen Bias video, part of why I wanted to do that video was because I felt I didn't talk about that properly in this one.
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I get the feeling that the demographics were more rigid about the types and styles of stories and art they featured in the past and are slowly becoming less so, to the point where it's often hard to guess what type of magazine a lot of new manga are being printed in.
I find this thread to contain a good contribution to explaining the distinction, or lack thereof, between _shoujo_ and _josei_ manga: anilist.co/forum/thread/9886
Probably because _josei_ lacks the numbers to make itself a clearly distinct demographic in the world of manga magazines.
Oh, interesting. I'll check it out, thanks!
ive mistaken these seinen for josei (devils line, emma, after the rain)
and these shonen for shojo (kono oto tomare, romantic killer)
As someone who loves shojosei, i love that i can get a similar vibe/style frm some shonen or seinen series
Apothecary diaries and witch hat atelier, I thought were josei at first but then when I actually looked into it I found that they were seinen huhu
Love the chill vibes of your videos.Also,everytime I watch one of them my brain gets bigger. Keep it up,Crash. :^D
Thank you! :D
😂😂 yoo your sense of humor really popped out I loved it 💪🏽, you know what I would love to see though.....???
Thank you!
What would be that?
@@MangaCrash to make 4 videos goin into more depth about seinin and shoujo Im still a 13 yr old male but I love how seinin is more mature than shonen, and even though im not interested int romance and slice of life I would love to see you do that.
RIP. There's no senior citizen demographic
Not... YET
The actual Target for the Senior Citizen is Seijin (Older Man)
This channel so fyee son
Thanks man!
Nice video.
Another interesting thing to note is that the work itself doesn't determine the genre, but the magazine it's published in. You could potentially end up with situations where thematically a work is mature but in a shonen manga.
Yup! I mentioned that on the magazine video I made.
series like Vinland saga and Chainsaw man are good examples of that in which they were changed from shonen to seinen series.
@@nieznajomy4398 that's true for Vinland Saga yeah! And JoJo too for example. But CSM is moving to another Shounen magazine.
@@MangaCrash Oh my bad. But after reading about SJ+ I think their content is also crossing sainen territory because less strick rules about sex and violence.
@@nieznajomy4398 Yeah, SJ+ is definitely more to the older "Shounen" compared to WSJ. I think CSM will fit there better
Nicee a new video!
thanks for the informative video.
It actually inspired me to check out more Josei series because it seems like the demographic has a big focus on very emotionally mature and honest stories that explore interesting sets of concepts, circumstances, and ideas without being pretty obviously fucked up like seinen series are. Also, in general, I have seen too few series in that demographic. the only true Josei series I have seen are March Comes in Like a Lion, Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, and Violet Evergarden. Personally, I don't consider Chiyahafuru to be a true Josei story. in terms of emotional maturity, it is closer to a shounen series than anything else.
I have been meaning to check out Nana, Nodame Cantabile, Wotakoi for ages. I also want to watch Honey and Clover and Paradise Kiss because they are made by the authors of 3-gatsu and nana, respectively
note: when I see something categorized as a "Josei" I don't think: "oh, it's in a Josei magazine"; I think is:" oh so it's an emotionally mature and honest series that depicts people and life in a very realistic and honest manner. and unlike most seinen, the ugliness of the world isn't portrayed by obvious physical violence but in a more subtle and personal way"
that's why I consider March Comes in Like a Lion to be a Josei series and not Chihayafuru. it's more about what "type" of story it is, rather than what audience it is trying to appeal to.
Thank you!
I also have to read more josei manga, I've only read about 3 or 4, and none of them were necessarily the big titles. So I plan to change that this year.
You forgot to mention that Teenagers are searching for things that stimulate their imagination , emotional rollercoaster , things that make them think and push the boundaries of anything they've already see ; that's the period when they start watching horror movies, playing violent video games and enjoying them;
it's completely natural and makes sense for them to read something containing gore , violence and nudity (when you watch "IT" , porn , play Dark Souls 3 , there is nothing preventing you to read Berserk).
My little sisters started watching a lot of horror movies when they were only both 13 and 15 while I wasn't particularly fan of them (and some of them were age restricted to them but they didn't care).
That's why I'm convinced that a 3rd of Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk , Monster , Kingdom fanbases are actually boys between 15 and 17 (I and my sister watched Monster when we were respectively 15 and 17 and it wasn't more complex for us to understand and we enjoyed it).
Cuz it corresponds to things they're looking for and enjoying .
As a personal experience , I played GTA Vice city at the age of 12 , watched B Gata H Kei at the age of 14 , read Ayako by Osamu Tezuka (while having nudity in it) at the age of 15 , watched Monster at the age of 17 and not to mention every romance and Slice of Life Seinen anime I've watched while being under the age of 18 and also the fact that my Younger sister watched all of them at a much younger age.
You're right. Tho I think everyone's experience is different. I personally started watching horror movies regularly at the tender age of 8, and it wasn't much later that I started playing horror games for example. My sister's favorite game at age 10 was GTA SA too, lol
Demographics are but a guideline, and yes, I believe a lot of teens read a lot of Seinen... well, I don't believe, I know.
I feel like I did a better point of all of this in my Seinen Bias video, part of why I wanted to do that video was because I felt I didn't talk about that properly in this one.
Shin Chan is a Seinen Right?
Yeah, it is! Tho, having in mind how many of my friends back in elementary school would imitate Shin-Chan, I can understand why, lol
Noooooo! I have a similar video coming out and you have done it better. Hahaha!
Oh damn, lol
Is it about demographics as well?
@@MangaCrash Yeah, I go through some rough basics of each demographic and then compare the top examples on MAL of each demographic. That's funny.
@@theanimeoutlook8545 Lol, we are in sync indeed. But you're doing something that I didn't at least. So I'll be waiting on your video!