"I'm a PTSD ridden war veteran with so much experience that I could take on a single army with just my left arm. Also I'm 14 years old." - A lot of anime characters.
@MGTHREE Entrepreneur Hell and the Devil aren't in the original texts. They're an invention of inaccurate translations and later views of the religion. They're not accurate to the Bible. You're also describing Gehenna wrong.
I’m Japanese. I understand that you feel so, and I don't deny your opinion. Let me share a few things. As a fact, there were so many students like Tokyo Revengers in the 80s to 00s. They were all students who rode motorcycles and fought all the time. My father was the same way. And Japanese people have the most freedom while they are students. You can do anything you want and it is really fun, and that period is everything. Once you become an adult, people say “You are an adult, you should not do such a foolish thing. It's embarrassing.” Yeah culture is totally different.
@@Deastrisk The other is drawing like a get a life that's just drawing. While the other can be problematic if they put people who are right on the mark with character like cuties
@@greatdayforpizza6974 Not really I'm just explaining on a way others would feel. I'm not insulting the person. It's probably because I made a questionable grammar composition like It should be "Get a life that's just drawing" phrase with quotation to show that It's just a wording and not me directly telling them that. English isn't my native tongue so my bad for messing that up
An anime about anything other than high school is honestly rare (in the context of all anime). It's mainly because of the work ethic in Japan. The only time they get to be carefree in middle/high school
@@ytisshit461 What do you mean it's not true? It's been said in so many interviews on this exact subject and has been given as a reason by Japanese anime fans
One anime where I think the MC being young works well is YuYu Hakusho. The main character Yusuke is a kid with a pretty realistic yet troubled origin. His father left him and his mom is a depressed drunk due to having to work all the time and being a single mom. Due to this Yusuke is a pretty troubled kid who hates school and seems to never be able to catch a break. A lot of Yusuke’s journey through the story is him growing up and learning how to cope with all the things that have hurt him or unhealthy beliefs he has. Ofcourse it has action and fantasy elements, but Yusuke being a kid learning to be his own man is integral to the story. The story begins when Yusuke is about 15-16 I believe and ends with him turning about 18, becoming a young adult ready to face the world.
Why would people hate Charlie for saying this. This is just facts. And personally me I agree with this why can't they just be freaking adults. Cause it literally has nothing to do with the plot it's useless information🤷♂️🤷♀️
Because the people who make these anime are perverted fucking weirdos, why else? These tropes aren't accidental, they are conscious choices by grown men.
Because anime is mostly for teenagers and children. Why should a teenager watch about grown-up men if he wants to look at peers. Besides, if writers won't give the characters school uniforms and will say “All characters are 20 years old” you won’t even feel the difference, cause it's anime, not a movie.
It takes a strong person to express their distaste about certain aspects about anime because it’s one of the most controversial things to talk about on the internet, next to politics. Charlie deserves our utmost respect and support for this.
its literally why i kinda stick to seinen or specific shonen now, i mean sure obviously berserk has some grotesque scenes but id rather read that and not be apart of it than watch underage sexualising
it made sense to me as a kid when i started watching anime because when you're a kid, 15-17 years olds are all super grown up in your point of view lol so I'm guessing they thought that making them all teenagers would be like "yeah just so we can appeal to younger viewers, making them in their 20s would not make them relatable". Now as an adult, yeah, it's weird lol
The problem is not just anime characters being unreasonably young, its also how at the same time, A lot of perverted behaviour is normalized as well. And people wonder why the anime Community is infested with creepy simps/pedos who sexualize anything with breasts
you are telling me that western women are not sexualizing girls ? grooming them to do onlyfans when they reach 18 yr ?mind your business. it's japan. it's not usa, the uk, australia, it's JAPAN. you ahve a problem with it ?stop watching anime.@@miyukilalramchuani761
So one thing I realised when I started living in japan is that sexualising high-school girls (joshi kosei, JK) is a very common thing in their life. You can see school girls being a main sex-fantasy trend in their pop culture, you would see people encourage school girls to reveal themselves in school uniforms or swimsuits. Moreover, in their escort services they even provide uniforms from real private schools for the escort ladies to put on, in order to fulfil the fantasy of their costumers. The obsession of Japanese towards school girls is just bizarre.
Well the thinking behind is that highschool is literally the most, in fruits term, ripe a person will be. Not to young to make it extremely weird, but not to old for not knowing the fucked up world of works and the like.
@@peacechan4500 But... most of the high schoolers are still very young. Ranges from ages 13-18. The only time they're an adult is when they're 18 in their final year. I'm sorry, I just can't get over the fact that they're still very young, maybe few can see the real world but most are still very inexperienced to life and they're still new souls.
@@peacechan4500 no too young? bruh its this kind of thinking is how they persecuted the jews. first they started "no too bad just lose rights" next thing you know they got thrown in the oven. its exactly how anime operates to create more peddle files and corrupt our youth
When I was in Japan travelling for a while I asked my friends about this & they explained it very well Basically according to them it’s a cultural trope (sounds obvious, but here’s what they said more specifically). Work culture and work ethic in Japan is so extreme (people collapse and even sometimes die from it - there’s really a mindset of putting the company before everything including your personal life) that lots of people in Japan view their time in high school or middle school with rose-tinted glasses as the best time in their life. Thus the trope was born and most anime are set during that period even if it has nothing to do with the storyline because it’s widely seen as the golden years essentially. As a Brit that honestly was pretty depressing to hear them say, but they did point out that not everyone feels that way. It’s just a trope which over the years has been more and more played into. Thus the current state of anime
Thank you for explaining! I'm a person that thinks there is always explanation to seemingly unnatural behaviours. Your point of view makes it totaly understandable why this phenomenon exist in the first place.
@@monstar3626 Pretty common misconception, anime that’s exported outside of Japan is marketed towards teenagers and is mainly (as you said) Shōnen, but that makes up only a part of the Japanese anime industry not the whole thing (which is huge). In Japan there are anime and manga made for; children, teenagers and adults (even OAPS) but the other three examples here don’t export as much as the teenage aimed material. The West’s (industry) impression of anime was “oh it’s just well made cartoons, so it must be for kids and teens”, so they’ve brought over mainly that content - but just like adult American cartoons (Family Guy, American Dad, Archer etc) Japan has a huge amount of anime which is targeted towards older audiences (without being sexually explicit content) and also a lot of other series specifically just for very young children. The Shōnen series are just the biggest export that’s all. Yeah it does mean that, but Shōjo (for girls) exists along side that… along with Seinen (usually young men or adult men up to late thirties), Josei (adult women) etc. So respectfully, you don’t really have a point because you’re ignoring the existence of everything that’s not Shōnen to make your point that it’s “aimed at teens”. I’d recommend checking out other types, there’s a lot more to anime than what’s just in Shōnen 😊
I’ve always said this about the kid characters but a Japanese friend of mine said that it just doesnt sell in japan if they’re too old. Mostly because the paying viewers/manga buyers are kids or adults that wish they were kids again :/
This is why I adore Inuyashiki Last Hero. The writer utilized every character archetype possible, in fact they took a 58 year old man and made him one of the most interesting and relatable protagonists ever. So much anime defaults to kid protagonists that they miss out on other ages to tell a new story.
Fuck man what a ride, I remember reading the manga and thinking "this'll never be anime" and then watching the show a few years later, what a breath of fresh air that was.
Japan has an unhealthy obsession with sexualizing schoolgirls. This can at least partially be attributed to the overall all negative impact that the japanese work philosophy has on japanese men, and this schoolgirl obsession becomes an expression of regret and longing for when they were last around young women on a daily basis. This apparently meaningless implementation of middle schoolers in adult anime is another result of the same overall issue, but is (luckily) expressed in other ways. You could also extend this to the whole loli topic, but let's not go down that rabbithole on youtube.
Anime is fiction compared to Cuties (2020) where they used actual eleven year old girls rather than older women to speak out against the issue, instead they're promoting it as planned. Good 'ol Cr1tikal here talks about the movie and it's worse than you think
And also it’s normal for people to be into uniforms as long the person in it is an adult. It can be a normal fetish like some people are into “sexy nurse oufits”
I agree on the "why are they being sexualized" part, but them being kids helps teens relate to them, and the idea of "they're teens but they don't go to school or their parents aren't around that much so they could've worked as adults and it would be better" seems a bit much to me. When you're young, not only is your frontal lobe not fully developed, but also your hormones are basically on a riot. Because of that it's easier to manipulate you and it's easier for you to make stupid mistakes. That gives authors freedom when it comes to problems and villains: my sympathetic villain can totally be an adult, except, why would he be a villain? There are a lot of ideas sure, but making a character you can sympathize with children is easier. I'd love to see an anime that focuses on adults go super popular, but teens are just the best. They're not oblivious to the world's problems but they aren't mature either, which makes them more interesting. (Also wanting a goofball in your show and making them an adult always cringed me so much-)
This is a take I absolutely agree with. The oversexualization of kids in the industry is a big part of why I don't watch ecchi/harem anime, because it's creepy to see 12-15 year olds doing weird shit. It's also a big part of why I don't watch hent@i, for the same reasons. It's just uncomfortable.
I agree plus it's gotten people where they're obsessed with younger females cosplaying these characters and it does make it uncomfortable that people go after stuff like that. I'm not gonna lie it makes me uncomfortable knowing my boyfriend finds girls younger than us or at our age that is cosplaying them is attractive because it shows thats all that goes through his head and it's weird 😕
@@kayleyherrera7199 sounds really creepy when you bring cosplay into the mix. and as a guy i just want to tell you, talk with your boyfriend about it. its also his brain to be honest, monkey see, neurons fire, monkey goes: huehuhuahahaha! still, there should be clear boundaries. but i have no context here except your message neither do i need more. GL!
As someone who watches a lot of anime, he couldn’t have put it any better. Everytime I see a child being somewhat sexualized in an anime I cringe and stop watching it. It made me put down a lot of anime for just that particular reason.
I didn't even bother to watch Seven Deadly Sins because of this, that Ban guy having a relationship with a child looking character and the protagonist constantly groping a minor is just disgusting
So, you write off entire shows the moment they even approach risqué territory, presumably without ever taking the time to stop and consider the context behind such scenes. Man, you and yours would absolutely *hate* the Fate franchise, in spite of the fact that there are a lot of good stories in it.
I totally agree. Some animes are supposed to have a younger cast and their stories actually involve their school life (e.g My Hero Academia where them being in school at UA is the actual plot and there's lots of emphasis on how dangerous it is for them to be fighting at such a young age) but others just feel like their age is just being used to appeal to younger viwers, even though the plot doesn't need it lol.
Because that's exactly what it is???? It's a part of the Shonen demographic which LITERALLY means young boy. It's targeted toward Teenage boys, so why are you mad that teenage boys are the main focus??? If you don't want to watch a story aimed towards teenagers then watch a Seinen anime instead, which is also LITERALLY targeted towards adults.
Ajin: Demi Human is another example of characters being high schoolers for no reason. You have these two high school dudes going on stealth missions and knowing how to professionally use a gun. And one guy going to adult jail. It's shows like Promised Neverland where it's actually important for the characters to be kids
Nothing worse than being interested in an anime you think has a good plotline, then they just add some super fucking weird stuff into it like the sister being in love with her brother or a child looking character who's "actually 500 years old"
This is why I actually liked Aggretsuko so much. It's rare that's it's a realistic office setting full of office politics. And as a result it can do a whole bunch of social commentary on Japanese work culture and is quite relatable.
I think the reason that is, is because of most of the people that consume anime and manga are highschoolers and teenagers (especially in Japan) so it makes sense that they're trying to make the characters Relatable to their audience
I thought it was just me, platinum end is bad for me and I can't really point out the main reason. One of the reasons is probably because of this weak mc (haven't watched the whole series) who keeps trying to be a good guy, like wtf is that gonna do? He should've died a long time ago if he was like that. There are too many bloodthirsty candidates for the mc to survive
@@tharunbala7783 demon slayer is a good anime. Using the excuse the animation is the only reason people like it is completely incorrect. People like the story and characters and I’m one of them
@@tharunbala7783 it's because majority of the people watching are still kids with no sense of taste. I remember when i was that toxic bnha fan when i was younger, i didnt even watch other anime besides it.
Another thing about anime that can bother me, depending on the show and the characters, is making the males look like adults and the females look like children. There's also been times when they have a significant age difference and then there's the brother or sister in love with their sibling. I find these to be a detriment to the enjoyment of the stories.
To look young and useful is the beauty standard in Asian countries especially Japan they wouldn't want to make them look older that's not what they consider beautiful
This is why the 18+ absolutist doctrine when it comes to waifus is ridiculous. 90% of characters across all anime are 15-16. A much more reasonable doctrine would be 'intended design'. If someone like Komi Ryuko or Nagatoro was intended to be sexy, then lewding/loving them should be tolerated. People who cry pedo over someone liking jailbait waifus should be treated like the scummy karens they are. If they were intended to look like innocent young kids (like promised neverland), then we can all agree that's creepy & disgusting. Lets draw the line at that.
I always called them "reverse lolis" but I think I like "jailbait waifu" better. But yeah, agreed. If they look the part then that's all that really matters IMO.
I'm a big slice of life fan and I wish more of those shows featured an adult cast. Gimme a stressed out office worker falling in love with the girl who works at 7-11 or some shit. That could be great. Getting real sick of cultural festivals and club rooms and shit LMAO
I've been looking for that same sort of stuff I hate how rare it is. I had to look through manga to find a lot of series like that since there's a limit to how many anime exist versus manga/light novels. - "Can You Keep a Secret?" (Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu), office romance kinda similar to what you described, one of my favorites - Frieren at the funeral, a fantasy slice of just a journey without harem garbage/overly sexualized characters for no reason that makes you feel whistful instead of trying to be all action and fanservice. (I still like these series, but there is the limit to synopsis writing that is worth doing on a random youtube comment) - A rare marriage, how to grill our love - Kawaii Joushi wo komarasetai - First comes love, then comes marriage - Kijima-san to yamada san - Honnou Switch (Can be a bit nsfw, for the record, but it's not in a gratuitous or weird way imo) Cheers if anyone actually uses this lol I really hope that some of these series get animated at some point, because we **need** to see more series like this, everything Charlie said was right on the money. I have enjoyed many anime and manga, but that doesn't change the fact that the industry as a whole does these things, and some of the most popular and loved anime do all the shit he mentioned.
In addition to Wotakoi the guy above me mentioned, Recovery of an MMO Junkie was a romance SoL featuring adults that I really liked. Maybe also check out Golden Time.
I've started watching slice of life and just not shounen anime and honestly it's way better. I finished "I've been killing slimes for 300 years and maxed out my level" and it's really chill and enjoying to watch compare to other shounen anime
You should try different genres like seinen for the story being targeted to young male adults or middle aged men. There are genres so yeah shonen most of the time have teenagers as main characters. It would be nice if this could be of any help.
Let’s be real, fandoms plague nearly everything. From anime to video games to books, ravenous fans do a great job at driving others away from the thing they love
@@ericosborne4122 man you are not kidding about that. I've had conversations with some friends that got heated when I told them I didn't like something. Like I had a friend get almost psychoticly pissed cause I said I thought the last of us 2 was a terrible game. I've gotten to the mindset over the years of that it's fine for people to disagree as long as they're respectful about it. Like we can disagree and that's fine cause we don't have to like all the same stuff. That would honestly be boring. Cause let's be honest opinions about liking something are completely subjective and can't be wrong. Like you can't go around saying somebody is wrong for liking something. That's where I think a lot of people go too far
Fandoms are garbage. It’s okay to have opinions, but don’t attack people for having negative ones, don’t force your animes onto people, and also MIDORIYA ISNT GAY.
fr, fandoms can really ruin everything sometimes. I put off watching MHA for the longest time because of the fandom. I ended up watching it to see why people even liked it and it turns out I actually quite like the anime, and I think its a good anime. I'm not sure I'd call myself a fan (I liked the anime), but I'm definitely not apart of the 'fandom'.
I like the fact that Attack on Titan starts when they are 12, then they age up to 15 when they graduate training and become full soldiers. I think it set a tone that there are CHILDREN fighting titans to protect what they believe to be all of humanity. it also makes it to where I feel extremely sad when someone dies because it could have been someone as young as 15. Finally seeing them at age 19 in the final season with like facial hair and new hairstyles and stuff was cool too as if I've seen them grow up a bit
@@ricksonpat4451 If you are gonna preach about what you should and shouldn’t then get sad about on the internet saying why do people disagree with you, you need to unplug your Wi-Fi router.
Glad someone said it. Even worse when the creepiness is a substitute for good writing. Sick of watching trash shows that people highly rate because of creep shots.
Oh fuck yes. I'm so fucking tired of kids in animé. SpyXFamily is the first animé I'm watching with adult protagonists since One Punch Man and-goodness-I felt so relieved that such an animé exists in the mainstream.
@@user-el7rk2qr7r She behaves like a child only. Her struggles are school, friendship and studies, not fighting supervillains. Not some pre-teen doing adult shit. So I'm fine with it.
I very much understand. As someone that is a huge gundam fan, I would be lying if I said I didn't want to see more series featuring older protagonists.
A few months ago when I saw this, I totally agreed with the tokyo revengers take. But earlier I watched a documentary about 'Bosozuku' which is the biker gang sub culture that Tokyo revengers is based on, and during one of the interviews / narrator voice overs (can't remember which part exactly) it was stated that many of the people involved in the biker gang culture were in fact in the age ranges of 16-18 year old. They would be involved in heavy violence and sometimes even have Sxxxal Axxxult on there criminal records. So I get where other anime needlessly uses the younger child characters is a valid criticism, but with Tokyo revengers I do think the use of middle schoolers is a nod to the biker gang culture which involved a lot of teenagers in years past.
Things I hate about it, is they really don’t like the “show don’t tell” rule when it comes to story telling. Usually explaining almost every detail about what’s going to happen. Even though we saw it happen last episode or 5 minutes ago.
I think the reason that characters are randomly middle-schoolers and high-schoolers is to appeal to younger audiences but it completely backfires in many cases. I completely agree with Charlie, characters shouldn’t be young without any significance to plot or else it drives things into uncomfortable and obscure situations. These kinds of things should be more reserved towards slice-of-life and coming-of-age genres where the entire story wraps around more relatable age groups instead of inserting them into grim and dark plots.
The reason being they are shounen, made for shounen, published in a magazine targeted at shounen. What Charlie should've done is watch anime where he is the targeted audience. It's like people complaining why sesame street or barnie is childish, it's made for kids.
I feel like it was less questionable when I was also 15 like the characters. As time goes by, I age, but not many animes do the same. Naruto did have the characters age along with me, but many others didnt. The school setting used to attract me to shows as a teenager, mainly because I was in school and it was relatable. As I grew up, I remember hitting 18 and watching animes like, heh, they're all younger than me now, so it did become a bit weird. I feel like it becomes normalized to an extent due to culture and also just us growning up around it. My 15 year old sister is currently into animes with very young characters, but its nothing weird, she just thinks they're cute because she's also young. It also does depend what goes on in these shows 😅
So, first thing, I have no idea how I got recommended this vid while I was watching your other videos, but alright! Second thing, I watched Platinum End about a year ago and funny enough, I still listen to both the opening and ending to this day cause I think they're good. The show however, I agree, the premise is pretty solid, but the execution could have used some work. But man oh man, while you were explaining about the middle school girl being controlled by the villain, I couldn't help but burst out in laughter at how I had watched it more recently than you have and don't remember NONE of that shit! It's like I cleansed it from my brain because it was either too awkward or something else. I remember quite a few scenes from that show still, don't remember for a second who this middle school girl was that did that since only the main character's girlfriend was the only female character that stuck with me I guess. Third and thing, correct me if I'm wrong, buuuuuuut, I could have sworn that lolis just meant little girls in general. I don't know that for certain, but I got chewed out for saying that same exact thing by an 'expert' in anime culture and they swear up and down that lolis are the term for young girls as shota is the term for young boys, so I was like 'ok' and walked away lol. Fourth and final thing, I totally agree with your sentiment about characters being made kids, but not being treated as such or not showing more traits as such. I'm actually writing a story that I want made into an anime later that does this very thing, have a cast of kids that are shown more so as kids to let that have more weight for when they actually do grow up and you can see and feel the difference of these characters evolving naturally.
When it comes to utilizing the kid aspect, I can only think of Mob Psycho 100. Only show (that I've seen) showing actualy relatable character development when it comes to kids.
It's gotten so bad now that it's practically a selling point to me if the cast is 18 and up. I'm fed up of Animes chasing their past imaginary high school glory days. Another trope I'm tired of is relationships never going anywhere. 90% of the time the MC can't even bare the thought to hold hands with anyone. Even if they do show interest in a girl it never goes anywhere.
Usually for many popular series, the author has decided on the waifu and number of chapters, but demand for more chapters causes it to drag on Nisekoi comes to mind
Just watch seinen anime... This is getting ridiculous. Complaining about shonen anime showcasing shonen character. It's like complaining about zhojo-kawai anime showing immature, overly cute character with no plot because it's a slice of life and could be resumed as small skit.
You literally speak from my mind, God bless you! Can you recommend me anything where cast is 18 and up but not too old and relationships actually lead to somewhere and doesn't take 4 seasons to just hold hands. Doesn't matter if it's anime, manga, manhwa, manhua, webtoon, webcomics, webnovels or even western comics.
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@Mbita Acoustic Guitar stop promoting your own channel in the comments.
Hello reps, your argument that regulating the depiction of sexualized underage characters will lead to the decline of certain genres is baseless. It's not about censorship or controlling thoughts, it's about protecting children from exploitation and abuse. There are plenty of other genres and themes that can be explored without resorting to the sexualization of minors. Just because a majority of anime with popularity overseas is shonen anime, it doesn't justify the sexualization of underage characters. The fact that the majority of main characters are middle or high school-aged is not an excuse to depict them in sexual situations. Normalizing such behavior is not only illegal but also morally repugnant. The idea that people should just watch whatever they like without regard for the impact on others is selfish and shortsighted. It's important to be conscious of the content we consume and the message it sends to society. As responsible individuals, we should not condone or support the sexualization of minors in any form.
@@jamgjj2303 最好别用翻译翻译他的日文了lol你都不知道翻译的话和他说的话是不是真的准确，只会说英语的人就是这样 Better not use a translator to translate his japanese lol you don't even know if the translation and what he said are really accurate, people who only speak english are like that lol
I'm a weeb, and this man is spitting facts. There absolutely needs to be more shows with staring adults. Or hell, put them in college if you want to have the school still be there.
My favorite anime’s starring adults is Mushishi, Nana, Yuri on Ice (tho still has some teen characters but majority are young adults or older) plus the main character is in their early 20s, CowboyBepop, and B the Beginning.
Isn't this mostly about shounen animes though? I get that shounen is the mainstream for anime, but in Japan it's literally a genre that targets teen boys. If you're looking for older protagonists try seinen instead...
If you have any doubts or are a little disgusted, find out the reasons and causes. In the first place, Tokyo Revengers is not a work made for foreigners.
Shinji is probably the best representation of an actual kid, he's immature, he can't take big decisions alone, he's very sensitive and actually feels real
stop watching anime. its made by peddle files for pedle files. it must be banned. all anime watchers should be sent to camps fema and placed into ovens
Wtf? This is the worst excuse to defend sexualisation of kids. Yall are weirdos for real, cos there a fine line as to what's acceptable to differentiate and what is just plain harmful and one of those things is the sexualisation of children everywhere. Wtf is wrong with you?
I hate how normalised “Loli” characters are, considering that the main appeal is the fact they appear biologically very young and infantile, but they’re ‘enjoyed’ because they’re older than they appear. It’s completely fine for people irl to appear younger than they do of course (it’s quite common due to genetics) but it’s the hyperfixation on the fact that they appear childlike in film/anime that’s gross and fetishy.
Toyoko remembers is a bad example because it does have them as adults and the choices that were made while they were in middle school kept leading to a certain characters death. So he had to “time travel”” to fix whatever causes the death of that person.
I don't care about your opinion as a Japanese person. The fact that so many anime have high school students as the main characters is disgusting and it just shows that Japan is obsessed with sexualizing children. It's not a "cultural difference," it's just wrong. And no, it's not enough to just stop watching after one or two episodes. People need to speak up and demand better from the media they consume. You should be ashamed for defending such a disgusting industry.
Don’t watch it if you don’t like it isn’t the answer for why children are the main theme for a lot of anime. Explain your reasoning instead of shutting down the argument.
@@eleonarcrimson858 Instead of talking empty words here why not lower your crime rate and sex crime rate in America? These are much higher than Japan. Is a country full of violence and drugs really qualified to blame others? Don’t you feel ashamed?
When it’s a Slice of Life, it makes sense with the school setting, but most other anime, it doesn’t really need setting. It would make more sense if the characters were older and it wouldn’t really take away from the story. I also agree with the notion that Platinum End is not that good.
Like it could be a slice of life about other stuff. But yeah. A school setting makes sense when the basis is living life as a student. And all the random stuff you can get up to during that phase of life.
I also noticed that when i was younger, i want to be like batman, superman, james bond, rambo,etc. all these adult characters but when it comes to anime, i somehow dont want to be like the teenage main character because i know for a fact that teens are cringy and annoying. I honestly dont know where they get the idea that the characters of the show should also be a teen if the show is targeted to teenagers. All the things i aspired to be when i was a kid are always adult characters but i dont remember wanting to be a teenage character.
The word weeb lost its meaning. Otaku would be the word for someone who likes anime; weebs are people who are obsessed with Japanese culture so much that they wish they were Japanese.
@@81droid81 True, except weeb hasn't. A word can't change if it's thrown around mindlessly without anyone agreeing with a new definition. Different countries may see the word differently aswell
I think so many are 15 years old or so are because it's an age that isn't too adult for younger kids, isn't too young kid for adults, and it's an age relatable for many teenagers. It's kind of like a "middle" age of appeal among different ages, especially among people who (I think) are likely to watch shounen anime, although it's certainly on the younger side if counting an age 13-30 something demographic 3:30
As an anime fan, I’m glad someone actually admits to liking Jojo part one, usually someone will tell you to skip part one-which I think is kinda crazy because I think Jonathan Joestar is awesome and part one and two are very important (obviously) to the overall story; I don’t get why people tell others to skip.
@@riioas5543 For me the first 3 part is at least ok. But the rest of it literally the characters looks weird and the art animation looks like you having a fever dream or an acid trip.
@@riioas5543 I respect your opinion, but you should watch it for the story rather than what they’re wearing but I’m not forcing you or anything it’s all good.
うーん、そうだなああ。個人的に日本人としてアニメに一般人と同じくらいのレベルで触れてきて感じることは（めっちゃアニメ好きってわけでないしもう全然見なくなった）小学校とか中学校の頃は自分と同じ歳の主人公の方が嬉しかったし、なんか読む気になれた気がする（ごめんめっっちゃ完璧に他人を納得させられる理由は挙げられないかも）それで、多分昔のアニメ産業は（アニメ化される前に漫画とかを減るから漫画って言った方が正しいかも）子供を主な対象にしてたと思う。今は大人も外国の人も見るようになったけどその習慣がずっと残ってきてると思う。今のアニメを作った人もそういう環境で育った人だしね。でも15歳くらいとか明らかに子供っぽいキャラをなんか性的コンテンツが混じるアニメで用いるのが確かに気持ち悪いのはわかる。 Sorry guys, I'm japanese and my japanese is obviously better than english so i commented in japanese. i dont want you guys to get me wrong way but when i was a kid i felt like the protagonist which is close to my age was good for me, like i can more get into the plot? hopefully make sense lol.
I can think of two reasons: 1. To sell this fantasy to their target audience 2. To fit a certain type of character growth, that main character from platinum end would look pretty weird as an adult
Your first point is probably the most accurate one. Shounen anime/manga authors typically make the most important characters teenage boys because the target audience are teenage boys and it makes the characters more relatable to them. Same with shoujo but with teenage girls(though more often than shounen series there's more of a mix of boys too).
I really hope Charlie sees this one because this is definitely the answer, its for the target audience members for them to be able to relate with the characters, people like to watch things they can relate to. Also even though in America we may see these mature themes in anime too vulgar but Japan seems to have different views. Also lets be honest, when were younger a good amount of us were into being exposed to mature content and that made us be even further interested in the content.
I thing your initial point is most accurate. The age of concent in Japan is 13 which gives them this weird grey area to make content like that that TECHNICALLY "isn't weird" because the characters are "past the age of concent", but is also fulfilling to the audience who have those fantasies about those age groups.
Another reason I can think of is that the Japanese society's impact on the authors, whereas they had all the fun, innocence, and all in high school before entering the adult world in which they considered dull or empty, though I think that's only for the shonen category of anime and not like the seinen category of anime where main characters are actually adults
I absolutely agree. If you're looking for an actual reason why they're always 15, it's because the targeted audience for the show is usually teenagers, (anyone from the age of 12-18 years old) so they try to aim for an age that's somewhere in the middle so the characters are relatable. However, the ones you brought up sounds like they have much more mature themes and I agree, the characters definitely should be aged up for the sake of making the show less creepy. Typically if the main characters are adults it's intended for an older audience, so it is strange whenever they have 12 year olds as the main cast in a more mature anime.
It’s called platinums end and I only read it because it was the same guys who did deathnote that made it. It’s a manga first… then an anime. The first two volumes I read told me everything. I felt really gross reading it.
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the age demographic of the people watching the shows, like there are probably many more middle schoolers or high schoolers that watch anime that adults (atleast in Japan lol) so it makes it easier to self insert I guess and that drives up sales. I don't really know just some speculation.
The thing is the statement is worded in a way where it might be true. The real question is not if children add something to the plot but if adults would take something from the plot.
I used to comments on YT anime related videos but eventually stopped because there would be too much discourse 😅 Now, I only comment on edits/theories videos, the fans can be extreme as the kpop one.
Good point, but most of the manga's are published through shonen jump and shonen jump has a clear outline about the type of manga they publish. They cather mostly to 'young boys', that's why they are called 'shonen jump' because shonen means 'Young Boy' so the protagonist is oftend time going to be a young boy.
I feel like the early 2000’s teenage romcoms had this issue as well. Most of the actors were in their 20’s, sometimes even 30’s. They’re all having sex and doing drugs and spending all this money and living like absolutely no high schooler does. Like, just put them in college. Why does it have to specifically be high school?
I live in Japan, and have talked to a number of people about this. Although, to be honest, I see more often anime is usually based in High School and not JHS. So I've asked a number of people, "Why are so many anime characters in high school?" I asked an Otaku girl I went to the Kyoto Manga museum with and even some ladies at a Maid Cafe, as well as their boss. All of them except the boss had more-or-less the same answer; "I never really thought about that." Which, ironically, is what I would call the "lip of the well of the culture", where maintaining the status quo is ingrained into most of Japanese culture. The boss of the maid cafe had a slightly more interesting answer where he told me that most adults are too busy after high school to have fantastic adventures, high schoolers are blank slates. And, as someone who's written some stories that involve younger children, most of the story they could be replaced with adults for most of it; I rarely acknowledged their schooling, or their parents, because the story wasn't about their school, nor was it about their parents, so it was tough to make room for those concepts within the story I wanted to write. However, the reason I chose to make it about kids is that it makes the scale of "something bigger than the layman's understanding" feel that much bigger, it also helps to justify seemingly irrational behavior - so long as I kept the "they're just kids" idea at the front of the readers mind, I think it's easy for the reader to justify why a character might do something that is poorly thought out.
Exactly! I don’t get why people don’t understand this. Anime characters tend to mostly be kids or teenagers for the sake of A) target audience/demographic, B) marketing/genre, and/or C) having an easier time writing the characters doing irrational things, or having character flaws that feel believable. Especially in coming-of-age stories. That’s why shounen anime and shoujo anime are their own subgroups. And it’s why not as many of them revolve around adults. And it’s why seinen anime are the ones that tend to mostly revolve around adults and more adult issues. Adults often don’t go through the same issues or immaturity that kids and teens go through that make a lot of shounen anime work, so they often end up as side characters, mentor figures, or villains instead. I get Charlie says the characters being the age that they are isn’t relevant to the plot of Tokyo Revengers specifically, but I saw a few comments detailing how gang activity does tend to happen with characters that age-with the anime obviously exaggerating some things since it’s fictional.
@@kartikreddy4102 That’s subjective tho. Different people relate to different things. Especially when anime mostly really cares about appealing to Japanese audiences. A lot of anime *is* meant to be entertaining and a lot of people (including in Japan) do only see it as that, but there are a lot of people that do end up relating to some of the characters and their struggles, too.
I agree with Charlie on this one. It is kind of strange to see child characters doing adult things with no explanation as to where the parents are. I'd also like to throw in a hot take of my own: I don't like anime where the pervert character gets away with intentionally manhandling, or straight up molesting/gr@ping, other characters because they are either children, female, or homosexual. I'm not talking about scenarios where the character trips and unintentionally gropes someone. I'm talking about characters groping and molesting other characters on purpose without the consent of the one getting assaulted, and getting away with it.
And they use the term "Man of Culture" if you like these stuffs which is just a negative influence to someone using the internet. They somehow tolerate these kind of things by saying that they're a man of culture without realizing their actions. The wrong contextualization and usage of Man of Culture sometimes affect someone
As a weeb, i completely agree. Yeah I'm a teenager and I'm fine with most MC's being teens since it shows their growth throughout the show, but when it comes to explicit stuff and they show it on the screen, it's just creepy.
I hope u know a weeb is a non-Japanese person who is so obsessed with Japanese culture that they wish they were actually Japanese and wanting to be something u aren’t especially when it comes to a race is wrong….
There are some animes that use the youth of the characters to provide contrast as they progress through the plot, showing them change from naive/vulnerable to dark and damaged. It makes you feel for the characters more, and I think Tokyo Ghoul did this quite well initially. But for most animes, them being kids is just so irrelevant. The amount they’re sexualised just ends up feeling perverse
The sense of responsibility instilled in the adults of East Asia is strong. Parents are expected to die for their children, workers are expected to work themselves to death, and no one is expected to complain, the only time they were ever free of that expectation is when they were kids. Even the artists in the studios that produce the anime are probably working themselves ragged.
so you're saying the viewer is remembering when they were kids? and how times were simpler and free of responsibility? that does not make it okay to sexualize a drawn 14 year old. cringe
@UCiI3CGnkVZveyVYdGXbQwBw cause Japan work culture is just toxic no natter what you do. Working such long hours, even if you love something you still get tired. You just want to go home and enjoy some nice time.
I feel like when I started watching anime (12-14) a lot of shows made sense because I was that age and as a child I was definitely in a more graphic environment but looking back at some of the stuff I watched I probably wouldn’t watch it again
"I'm a PTSD ridden war veteran with so much experience that I could take on a single army with just my left arm. Also I'm 14 years old."
- A lot of anime characters.
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Learning that violet ever garden is like 16 in the anime was baffling
@MGTHREE Entrepreneur Hell and the Devil aren't in the original texts. They're an invention of inaccurate translations and later views of the religion. They're not accurate to the Bible. You're also describing Gehenna wrong.
"I'm your average middle schooler" *shows a massive buff dude*
@@Arexion5293 giving serious answers to a bot is a waste my dude
As much as I love anime I despise how bad it’s fans can be and how it causes people to generalize others because of their shitty behavior
Bro the community can get so goddamn toxic, it just ruins the image of the anime watchers lmaaooooo
Yea
dawg the video aint even done yet
Just you know Ignore all the boys above or below me
The AOT fanbase and MHA fanbase in a nutshell: Upon Pillars of Salt, Pillars of Salt, Pillars of Salt
I also hate it when characters get into a relationship where the age gap is bigger than boeing 747.
Bad writing does that often
Queen Of The Skies✈️👑
Indeed
747 year age gap
@@hybridAbsoland weirdos
I’m Japanese. I understand that you feel so, and I don't deny your opinion.
Let me share a few things.
As a fact, there were so many students like Tokyo Revengers in the 80s to 00s. They were all students who rode motorcycles and fought all the time. My father was the same way.
And Japanese people have the most freedom while they are students. You can do anything you want and it is really fun, and that period is everything. Once you become an adult, people say “You are an adult, you should not do such a foolish thing. It's embarrassing.”
Yeah culture is totally different.
そうだな。文化が違うから日本人は子供や幼女の純情な気持ちを無視し性的観点で取り上げ強姦やお色気シーンなどで自身の性的欲求を満たそうとする。
「フィクションだから」と割り切るのは危険だ。割り切るとは即ち視野を狭めることを意味し、盲目的にならざるを得なくする行為である。
君達はフィクションだから10代、もしくは10代以下の子供を強姦してもいいと思うのか？それを10代、もしくは10代以下の子供に恥じること無く見せることが出来るのか？
@@tomorrow-vd3iv 未成年への性被害は欧米の方が酷いの知ってる？知らない人多いけど海外だとそうゆう行為した後に対象者を殺人までがセットだったりするんだよ？
フィクションだから何してもいいわけじゃないのは同意するけど現実で性被害が起こるよりは二次元で済ませてる日本の方が100倍良いでしょ
@@tomorrow-vd3iv
日本より犯罪率が高い国が言うって、どんなコメディだよ？
フィクションだと割り切るのが危険なら、強盗や殺人も描くのは駄目だろ
@@tomorrow-vd3iv
そうですね！
今後フィクションに犯罪行為やモラルに反する描写を出すのはすべて禁止にしたほうがいいでしょう
どんな世界ができあがるか楽しみだなぁ
@@tomorrow-vd3iv てか強姦してるアニメなんてほとんど無いだろww 変態の見過ぎやgaijin
Netflix: Let’s make a show about kids and make them look like adults.
Anime: Let’s make a show about adults and make them look like kids.
Its basically the same
@@Deastrisk only difference is you won’t get put on an FBI watchlist if you do the anime
@@Deastrisk The other is drawing like a get a life that's just drawing. While the other can be problematic if they put people who are right on the mark with character like cuties
@@pauloazuela8488 toxic
@@greatdayforpizza6974 Not really I'm just explaining on a way others would feel. I'm not insulting the person. It's probably because I made a questionable grammar composition like It should be "Get a life that's just drawing" phrase with quotation to show that It's just a wording and not me directly telling them that. English isn't my native tongue so my bad for messing that up
An anime about anything other than high school is honestly rare (in the context of all anime). It's mainly because of the work ethic in Japan. The only time they get to be carefree in middle/high school
I want to say that's not true but actually yeah I just realised that so many modern anime do this
There's a lot of truth to this.
@Amina & Hiba Show wth
@@ytisshit461 What do you mean it's not true? It's been said in so many interviews on this exact subject and has been given as a reason by Japanese anime fans
@@ytisshit461 Also the high school trope is way more common in older anime. Modern anime seems to be moving into different settings
One anime where I think the MC being young works well is YuYu Hakusho.
The main character Yusuke is a kid with a pretty realistic yet troubled origin. His father left him and his mom is a depressed drunk due to having to work all the time and being a single mom. Due to this Yusuke is a pretty troubled kid who hates school and seems to never be able to catch a break. A lot of Yusuke’s journey through the story is him growing up and learning how to cope with all the things that have hurt him or unhealthy beliefs he has. Ofcourse it has action and fantasy elements, but Yusuke being a kid learning to be his own man is integral to the story. The story begins when Yusuke is about 15-16 I believe and ends with him turning about 18, becoming a young adult ready to face the world.
A cultured one I see, that’s the first anime I’ve fully watched through/finished.
Or like serial experiment lain
Another
Corpse party
Blood c
You the goat for this comment. Yusuke’s arc from disrespectful punk to selfless adult is amazing
i'm watching yuyu hakusho rn
Yusuke is like a japanese version of Liu Kang from MK
Why would people hate Charlie for saying this. This is just facts. And personally me I agree with this why can't they just be freaking adults. Cause it literally has nothing to do with the plot it's useless information🤷♂️🤷♀️
Because the people who make these anime are perverted fucking weirdos, why else?
These tropes aren't accidental, they are conscious choices by grown men.
Becuz its fun Yet you guys are just ruining it
@johnmatthewtagaza3692 what's fun? Watching kids fucking each other or that Charlie is spittin fax??😊
They usually make them teens because Japan has a very depressing work culture and high school is culturally viewed as the golden age of your life.
Because anime is mostly for teenagers and children. Why should a teenager watch about grown-up men if he wants to look at peers.
Besides, if writers won't give the characters school uniforms and will say “All characters are 20 years old” you won’t even feel the difference, cause it's anime, not a movie.
It takes a strong person to express their distaste about certain aspects about anime because it’s one of the most controversial things to talk about on the internet, next to politics. Charlie deserves our utmost respect and support for this.
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IT TOOK A WHILE CHARLIE YOUR WELCOME
Ah frick, bots!
@@hollowsid9623 yeah there are way to many here in the replys of the comments
true
Anime is one of the most hated things on the internet lol. I guess thousands of people have a lot of courage every day.
As someone who watches anime semi religiously. I agree, Fanservice oversexualization, and even the concept of “loli” range from annoying to appalling
Genuinely disturbing to me. I’ve stopped watching anime just out of how uncomfortable I constantly am seeing it
loli is loli.
no matter how "sometimes appealing" others say for it, it is still awful and horrible.
its literally why i kinda stick to seinen or specific shonen now, i mean sure obviously berserk has some grotesque scenes but id rather read that and not be apart of it than watch underage sexualising
@@Chris-np6br he said appalling, which means the opposite
@@fart63 depends on the animeis you're watching
it made sense to me as a kid when i started watching anime because when you're a kid, 15-17 years olds are all super grown up in your point of view lol so I'm guessing they thought that making them all teenagers would be like "yeah just so we can appeal to younger viewers, making them in their 20s would not make them relatable". Now as an adult, yeah, it's weird lol
The problem is not just anime characters being unreasonably young, its also how at the same time, A lot of perverted behaviour is normalized as well. And people wonder why the anime Community is infested with creepy simps/pedos who sexualize anything with breasts
日本では、「性的すぎる！」とかならないのにアメリカはいつも言っている
you are telling me that western women are not sexualizing girls ? grooming them to do onlyfans when they reach 18 yr ?mind your business. it's japan. it's not usa, the uk, australia, it's JAPAN. you ahve a problem with it ?stop watching anime.@@miyukilalramchuani761
The thing that bothers me most is the internal monolouge. Especially when they describe exactly what's going on in the scene.
Stop watching shonen
So one thing I realised when I started living in japan is that sexualising high-school girls (joshi kosei, JK) is a very common thing in their life. You can see school girls being a main sex-fantasy trend in their pop culture, you would see people encourage school girls to reveal themselves in school uniforms or swimsuits. Moreover, in their escort services they even provide uniforms from real private schools for the escort ladies to put on, in order to fulfil the fantasy of their costumers. The obsession of Japanese towards school girls is just bizarre.
Well the thinking behind is that highschool is literally the most, in fruits term, ripe a person will be. Not to young to make it extremely weird, but not to old for not knowing the fucked up world of works and the like.
@@peacechan4500 But... most of the high schoolers are still very young. Ranges from ages 13-18. The only time they're an adult is when they're 18 in their final year. I'm sorry, I just can't get over the fact that they're still very young, maybe few can see the real world but most are still very inexperienced to life and they're still new souls.
I think this phenomenon comes from the fact that the age of consent in japan is 13 still
thats because that place is full of peddle files. change my mind
@@peacechan4500 no too young? bruh its this kind of thinking is how they persecuted the jews. first they started "no too bad just lose rights" next thing you know they got thrown in the oven. its exactly how anime operates to create more peddle files and corrupt our youth
Manga writers/anime producers trying not put fan service and sexualize a child or preteen for 10 seconds: **impossible**
not all
Take my like
Mushoku Tensei fans explaining how hesitating before going down on a 15 year old is amazing character development
@@gab_2444 I mean its better than him not hesitating,but funny comment nonetheless
That happens all the time 🤣 u don't watch anime huh
When I was in Japan travelling for a while I asked my friends about this & they explained it very well
Basically according to them it’s a cultural trope (sounds obvious, but here’s what they said more specifically). Work culture and work ethic in Japan is so extreme (people collapse and even sometimes die from it - there’s really a mindset of putting the company before everything including your personal life) that lots of people in Japan view their time in high school or middle school with rose-tinted glasses as the best time in their life. Thus the trope was born and most anime are set during that period even if it has nothing to do with the storyline because it’s widely seen as the golden years essentially.
As a Brit that honestly was pretty depressing to hear them say, but they did point out that not everyone feels that way. It’s just a trope which over the years has been more and more played into. Thus the current state of anime
Thank you for explaining! I'm a person that thinks there is always explanation to seemingly unnatural behaviours. Your point of view makes it totaly understandable why this phenomenon exist in the first place.
I understand but I think it's also because most anime shows target teenagers, especially shounen shows, as shounen litteraly means "for young boys".
still is lame asf kids fucc another kids is too much.
@@monstar3626 Pretty common misconception, anime that’s exported outside of Japan is marketed towards teenagers and is mainly (as you said) Shōnen, but that makes up only a part of the Japanese anime industry not the whole thing (which is huge).
In Japan there are anime and manga made for; children, teenagers and adults (even OAPS) but the other three examples here don’t export as much as the teenage aimed material. The West’s (industry) impression of anime was “oh it’s just well made cartoons, so it must be for kids and teens”, so they’ve brought over mainly that content - but just like adult American cartoons (Family Guy, American Dad, Archer etc) Japan has a huge amount of anime which is targeted towards older audiences (without being sexually explicit content) and also a lot of other series specifically just for very young children.
The Shōnen series are just the biggest export that’s all. Yeah it does mean that, but Shōjo (for girls) exists along side that… along with Seinen (usually young men or adult men up to late thirties), Josei (adult women) etc. So respectfully, you don’t really have a point because you’re ignoring the existence of everything that’s not Shōnen to make your point that it’s “aimed at teens”. I’d recommend checking out other types, there’s a lot more to anime than what’s just in Shōnen 😊
@@Rosenfeld. Thanks for the info
My point was that most of anime shows target teens, not all of them.
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I’ve always said this about the kid characters but a Japanese friend of mine said that it just doesnt sell in japan if they’re too old. Mostly because the paying viewers/manga buyers are kids or adults that wish they were kids again :/
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Yea that's pretty much it. Like, almost exclusively.
Gundam does it well, cuz that's the point, other series nosso much lol
Yep, the youth is seen as the "golden days" and adulthood is the time where the fun stops and you have to non-stop work.
@@EvalithFoG Shoot, I’d want to stay as a kid if I lived in japan
this is the rather not-botted comment
This is why I adore Inuyashiki Last Hero. The writer utilized every character archetype possible, in fact they took a 58 year old man and made him one of the most interesting and relatable protagonists ever. So much anime defaults to kid protagonists that they miss out on other ages to tell a new story.
Omg yes dude
I fucking love that manga and anime. Made by the same author who wrote the original Gantz, Hiroya Oku.
Great show
And it massively undersold, which is tragic, and also the reason anime tends to keep being 'anime'
Fuck man what a ride, I remember reading the manga and thinking "this'll never be anime" and then watching the show a few years later, what a breath of fresh air that was.
This is why Vinland saga, samurai champloo and Gurren lagann are the greatest anime ever created
As someone whose media of choice is usually anime, they are just cartoons, many are overrated, fanbases suck, and everything you said is true
Japan has an unhealthy obsession with sexualizing schoolgirls. This can at least partially be attributed to the overall all negative impact that the japanese work philosophy has on japanese men, and this schoolgirl obsession becomes an expression of regret and longing for when they were last around young women on a daily basis. This apparently meaningless implementation of middle schoolers in adult anime is another result of the same overall issue, but is (luckily) expressed in other ways. You could also extend this to the whole loli topic, but let's not go down that rabbithole on youtube.
I agree with this 💯👍
I might be completely wrong but probably because their age of consent is so low over there. Just a guess though.
@@PoojHoon it's not, the age of consent is raised to 16-18, the only places where it's 13 are uninhabited.
Anime is fiction compared to Cuties (2020) where they used actual eleven year old girls rather than older women to speak out against the issue, instead they're promoting it as planned. Good 'ol Cr1tikal here talks about the movie and it's worse than you think
Its not so deep at all its just that the readers and majority of the audience of these mangas are 12-17 year olds
Sexualizing female school uniforms,and school girls in general.. it's so frikking weird and i really don't know why it's a thing.
Yeah i agree, thats a little creepy tbh🤔
Because hebephilia is common in japan
And also it’s normal for people to be into uniforms as long the person in it is an adult. It can be a normal fetish like some people are into “sexy nurse oufits”
@@khazms it's not the same, nurses are adult and school uniforms represent very young people it's still weird and problematic.
@@justamood4050 Not really? In Japan, high schoolers in their 3rd year are 18. So, they are indeed adults.
I don't like people just hating on anime, without actually watching it
They need someone to look down on even they enjoyed the show they still going to hate it
I agree on the "why are they being sexualized" part, but them being kids helps teens relate to them, and the idea of "they're teens but they don't go to school or their parents aren't around that much so they could've worked as adults and it would be better" seems a bit much to me. When you're young, not only is your frontal lobe not fully developed, but also your hormones are basically on a riot. Because of that it's easier to manipulate you and it's easier for you to make stupid mistakes. That gives authors freedom when it comes to problems and villains: my sympathetic villain can totally be an adult, except, why would he be a villain? There are a lot of ideas sure, but making a character you can sympathize with children is easier. I'd love to see an anime that focuses on adults go super popular, but teens are just the best. They're not oblivious to the world's problems but they aren't mature either, which makes them more interesting. (Also wanting a goofball in your show and making them an adult always cringed me so much-)
This is a take I absolutely agree with. The oversexualization of kids in the industry is a big part of why I don't watch ecchi/harem anime, because it's creepy to see 12-15 year olds doing weird shit. It's also a big part of why I don't watch hent@i, for the same reasons. It's just uncomfortable.
I agree with this 💯👍
I agree plus it's gotten people where they're obsessed with younger females cosplaying these characters and it does make it uncomfortable that people go after stuff like that. I'm not gonna lie it makes me uncomfortable knowing my boyfriend finds girls younger than us or at our age that is cosplaying them is attractive because it shows thats all that goes through his head and it's weird 😕
@@kayleyherrera7199 sounds really creepy when you bring cosplay into the mix. and as a guy i just want to tell you, talk with your boyfriend about it.
its also his brain to be honest, monkey see, neurons fire, monkey goes: huehuhuahahaha!
still, there should be clear boundaries.
but i have no context here except your message neither do i need more.
GL!
@@kayleyherrera7199 you should honestly talk to em about it, liking the ones in anime is ehh... but irl???
@@kayleyherrera7199 it's culture in anime, where's the little girl (loli) looks superior than mature woman in common age.
It's gonna be okay Charlie. Weebs are way more forgiving than K-pop stans.
Criticizing BTS is the true hell.
Brave lad
I can already see the BTS fans is going to flood in these comments..
Both are hell spawns.
@@farhanzz_2626 HERE THEY COME GET DOWN
@@ammarsalim1185 i agree
Tokyo Revengers, I want you to investigate "Japan motorcycle gangs"
何も調べないで言ってるんだろうな
お前もこの人の事なんも調べずに言ってるんだろうな
@@tomorrow-vd3iv 話になってない
@@tomorrow-vd3iv what research is there to be done about Charlie?
Pedo right here
What research must there be to talk about this?
As someone who watches a lot of anime, he couldn’t have put it any better. Everytime I see a child being somewhat sexualized in an anime I cringe and stop watching it. It made me put down a lot of anime for just that particular reason.
Same here
I’d stop watching the moment I see the “protagonist with a face that can be mistook for a girl is actually op” cliché
Same
I didn't even bother to watch Seven Deadly Sins because of this, that Ban guy having a relationship with a child looking character and the protagonist constantly groping a minor is just disgusting
So, you write off entire shows the moment they even approach risqué territory, presumably without ever taking the time to stop and consider the context behind such scenes.
Man, you and yours would absolutely *hate* the Fate franchise, in spite of the fact that there are a lot of good stories in it.
I totally agree. Some animes are supposed to have a younger cast and their stories actually involve their school life (e.g My Hero Academia where them being in school at UA is the actual plot and there's lots of emphasis on how dangerous it is for them to be fighting at such a young age) but others just feel like their age is just being used to appeal to younger viwers, even though the plot doesn't need it lol.
Because that's exactly what it is???? It's a part of the Shonen demographic which LITERALLY means young boy. It's targeted toward Teenage boys, so why are you mad that teenage boys are the main focus??? If you don't want to watch a story aimed towards teenagers then watch a Seinen anime instead, which is also LITERALLY targeted towards adults.
@@ayfadarkn you just said his point with extra steps
@@ayfadarkn this comment just proves the video honestly lol.
@@ayfadarkn There's shounen anime which is still heavily sexualized...
the most popular animes are shonen prehaps that's why
Ajin: Demi Human is another example of characters being high schoolers for no reason. You have these two high school dudes going on stealth missions and knowing how to professionally use a gun. And one guy going to adult jail. It's shows like Promised Neverland where it's actually important for the characters to be kids
大人の暴走族漫画はちょっと………
Nothing worse than being interested in an anime you think has a good plotline, then they just add some super fucking weird stuff into it like the sister being in love with her brother or a child looking character who's "actually 500 years old"
Hestia from Danmachi is one of loli I quite uncomfortable...
High rise invasion
Attack on Titan manages to kind of do both.
@@intanannis7971 idk I'd disagree hestia in my eyes doesn't look that young and idk bout you but kids dont have d cups
Bungo Stray Dogs has unfortunately done that first one 💀 a pretty great series but man does that stuff make me uncomfy.
This is why I actually liked Aggretsuko so much. It's rare that's it's a realistic office setting full of office politics. And as a result it can do a whole bunch of social commentary on Japanese work culture and is quite relatable.
+1 to this. Aggretsuko is a delight.
Try wotakoi-love is hard for an otaku
It’s an office romance and it’s pretty great
meanwhile MHA fans tryna explain how it is the best anime with their infant mouth and 🤌
.. There are tons of anime that sets in work environment, in fact, aggretsuko is probably inspired from other anime
This world needs more Aggretsuko appreciation
5:12 the way I closed youtube and started watching it
I think the reason that is, is because of most of the people that consume anime and manga are highschoolers and teenagers (especially in Japan) so it makes sense that they're trying to make the characters Relatable to their audience
Hearing him saying Platinum ends sucks puts a smile on my face lol
Takeshi Obata's god tier art was just wasted in that pretentious trainwreck
I thought it was just me, platinum end is bad for me and I can't really point out the main reason. One of the reasons is probably because of this weak mc (haven't watched the whole series) who keeps trying to be a good guy, like wtf is that gonna do? He should've died a long time ago if he was like that. There are too many bloodthirsty candidates for the mc to survive
Honestly so many new anime is just basic plot, static characters with fancy animation to cover the shitshow it is
-Looking at you demon slayer-
THIS!!! I thought Platinum End was going to be mindgames; I fvcking dropped it the moment it became sword art online
@@tharunbala7783 demon slayer is a good anime. Using the excuse the animation is the only reason people like it is completely incorrect. People like the story and characters and I’m one of them
@@tharunbala7783 it's because majority of the people watching are still kids with no sense of taste. I remember when i was that toxic bnha fan when i was younger, i didnt even watch other anime besides it.
Another thing about anime that can bother me, depending on the show and the characters, is making the males look like adults and the females look like children. There's also been times when they have a significant age difference and then there's the brother or sister in love with their sibling. I find these to be a detriment to the enjoyment of the stories.
I agree with this 💯👍
To look young and useful is the beauty standard in Asian countries especially Japan they wouldn't want to make them look older that's not what they consider beautiful
Youthful
chill lil bruv its just pictures
@@mrsilent4146 fax 🤣
This is why the 18+ absolutist doctrine when it comes to waifus is ridiculous. 90% of characters across all anime are 15-16.
A much more reasonable doctrine would be 'intended design'.
If someone like Komi Ryuko or Nagatoro was intended to be sexy, then lewding/loving them should be tolerated. People who cry pedo over someone liking jailbait waifus should be treated like the scummy karens they are.
If they were intended to look like innocent young kids (like promised neverland), then we can all agree that's creepy & disgusting. Lets draw the line at that.
I always called them "reverse lolis" but I think I like "jailbait waifu" better.
But yeah, agreed. If they look the part then that's all that really matters IMO.
part 5 do be great
I'm a big slice of life fan and I wish more of those shows featured an adult cast. Gimme a stressed out office worker falling in love with the girl who works at 7-11 or some shit. That could be great. Getting real sick of cultural festivals and club rooms and shit LMAO
I've been looking for that same sort of stuff I hate how rare it is. I had to look through manga to find a lot of series like that since there's a limit to how many anime exist versus manga/light novels.
- "Can You Keep a Secret?" (Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu), office romance kinda similar to what you described, one of my favorites
- Frieren at the funeral, a fantasy slice of just a journey without harem garbage/overly sexualized characters for no reason that makes you feel whistful instead of trying to be all action and fanservice.
(I still like these series, but there is the limit to synopsis writing that is worth doing on a random youtube comment)
- A rare marriage, how to grill our love
- Kawaii Joushi wo komarasetai
- First comes love, then comes marriage
- Kijima-san to yamada san
- Honnou Switch (Can be a bit nsfw, for the record, but it's not in a gratuitous or weird way imo)
Cheers if anyone actually uses this lol
I really hope that some of these series get animated at some point, because we **need** to see more series like this, everything Charlie said was right on the money. I have enjoyed many anime and manga, but that doesn't change the fact that the industry as a whole does these things, and some of the most popular and loved anime do all the shit he mentioned.
@@Sueshe Thanks for the recs :D
I know it is probs mentioned somewhere (too lazy to read comments) but Wotakoi is a cute romance anime about 2 adult otaku couples dating.
In addition to Wotakoi the guy above me mentioned, Recovery of an MMO Junkie was a romance SoL featuring adults that I really liked. Maybe also check out Golden Time.
I've started watching slice of life and just not shounen anime and honestly it's way better. I finished "I've been killing slimes for 300 years and maxed out my level" and it's really chill and enjoying to watch compare to other shounen anime
You know it’s true when a character being 17 is a refreshing anime. Even better when they are all adults that don’t make stupid decisions every turn.
You should try different genres like seinen for the story being targeted to young male adults or middle aged men. There are genres so yeah shonen most of the time have teenagers as main characters. It would be nice if this could be of any help.
If you like that then Id recommend you watch monster
@@arthur0023 It's Watched 20 episodes of it. It's pretty slow. Warning to his recommending anime.
@@endkatana3530 It’s a bit slow but it’s still one of the best animes
@@AliRaza-yf7bp I think that isn't just my taste. It's pace is too slow for me.
It is good anime to recommend.
That’s why I like Nana, it has some (like 3 in total¿) high schoolers, but it’s mostly young adults dealing with the world and it’s amazing
Just brought this up on Reddit and the amount of creeps defending the animated sexualization children is WIIIIILLLDDDD!
I thought he was going to talk about the fandoms.
But this is surprisingly spot on as well.
Let’s be real, fandoms plague nearly everything. From anime to video games to books, ravenous fans do a great job at driving others away from the thing they love
@@ericosborne4122 man you are not kidding about that. I've had conversations with some friends that got heated when I told them I didn't like something. Like I had a friend get almost psychoticly pissed cause I said I thought the last of us 2 was a terrible game. I've gotten to the mindset over the years of that it's fine for people to disagree as long as they're respectful about it. Like we can disagree and that's fine cause we don't have to like all the same stuff. That would honestly be boring. Cause let's be honest opinions about liking something are completely subjective and can't be wrong. Like you can't go around saying somebody is wrong for liking something. That's where I think a lot of people go too far
Fandoms are garbage. It’s okay to have opinions, but don’t attack people for having negative ones, don’t force your animes onto people, and also MIDORIYA ISNT GAY.
@@maikou4724 Men the amount of people I heard on discord saying he could be gay.
fr, fandoms can really ruin everything sometimes.
I put off watching MHA for the longest time because of the fandom.
I ended up watching it to see why people even liked it and it turns out I actually quite like the anime, and I think its a good anime.
I'm not sure I'd call myself a fan (I liked the anime), but I'm definitely not apart of the 'fandom'.
I like the fact that Attack on Titan starts when they are 12, then they age up to 15 when they graduate training and become full soldiers. I think it set a tone that there are CHILDREN fighting titans to protect what they believe to be all of humanity. it also makes it to where I feel extremely sad when someone dies because it could have been someone as young as 15. Finally seeing them at age 19 in the final season with like facial hair and new hairstyles and stuff was cool too as if I've seen them grow up a bit
If you get sad from television you need a spanking
@@ricksonpat4451 and dad is gonna bring out the belt and take away your playstation
@@obsculyze5666 ayo
@@ricksonpat4451 If you are gonna preach about what you should and shouldn’t then get sad about on the internet saying why do people disagree with you, you need to unplug your Wi-Fi router.
@@__mindflayer__ the fact of this fucker crying because of fiction is the predicament not my anger
Glad someone said it. Even worse when the creepiness is a substitute for good writing. Sick of watching trash shows that people highly rate because of creep shots.
東京リベンジャーズがなぜ学生なのかは、ヤンキー文化とかヤンキー漫画の系譜を知らないと理解できないだろうね
Oh fuck yes. I'm so fucking tired of kids in animé. SpyXFamily is the first animé I'm watching with adult protagonists since One Punch Man and-goodness-I felt so relieved that such an animé exists in the mainstream.
I'm curious, what do you think about Anya as a child character?
@@user-el7rk2qr7r She behaves like a child only. Her struggles are school, friendship and studies, not fighting supervillains. Not some pre-teen doing adult shit. So I'm fine with it.
@@user-el7rk2qr7r well she is already a best girl in anime 2022
@@MeowtronStar bruh how many anime did you watch?
@@davidtwilight2363 wtf u mean best girl
Promised neverland is a good example of an anime where them being kids actually made sense
Ans theyre also not sexualised, theyre put in awful situations but its not weird shit, just horrific shit which is the point
Well only the first season though but the second season though.....
And My hero academia
@@miniatureben3558 yeah but the manga is fantastic, one of the best animanga imo
@@guywithasword6561 Nah its kinda rushed too, they literally ruined norman lol,
I very much understand. As someone that is a huge gundam fan, I would be lying if I said I didn't want to see more series featuring older protagonists.
This is why I liked 8th MS team or hathaway, the character being older really gave it a more mature side
@@champiggyfrm_pig5271 hell, G Gundam having Domon be 20 is a departure from the norm
@Sounadeel I'll die on the hill that incest can be an interesting trope if it's presented as taboo and not normalized
A few months ago when I saw this, I totally agreed with the tokyo revengers take.
But earlier I watched a documentary about 'Bosozuku' which is the biker gang sub culture that Tokyo revengers is based on, and during one of the interviews / narrator voice overs (can't remember which part exactly) it was stated that many of the people involved in the biker gang culture were in fact in the age ranges of 16-18 year old. They would be involved in heavy violence and sometimes even have Sxxxal Axxxult on there criminal records.
So I get where other anime needlessly uses the younger child characters is a valid criticism, but with Tokyo revengers I do think the use of middle schoolers is a nod to the biker gang culture which involved a lot of teenagers in years past.
Things I hate about it, is they really don’t like the “show don’t tell” rule when it comes to story telling. Usually explaining almost every detail about what’s going to happen. Even though we saw it happen last episode or 5 minutes ago.
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Death Note did this well for a myriad of reasons, but stuff like JoJo gets grating after the 5th episode in a row of back and forth explaining.
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I think the reason that characters are randomly middle-schoolers and high-schoolers is to appeal to younger audiences but it completely backfires in many cases. I completely agree with Charlie, characters shouldn’t be young without any significance to plot or else it drives things into uncomfortable and obscure situations. These kinds of things should be more reserved towards slice-of-life and coming-of-age genres where the entire story wraps around more relatable age groups instead of inserting them into grim and dark plots.
Exactly I was gonna comment the same thing, Thanks!
The reason being they are shounen, made for shounen, published in a magazine targeted at shounen. What Charlie should've done is watch anime where he is the targeted audience.
It's like people complaining why sesame street or barnie is childish, it's made for kids.
shounen is the demographic not a genre
Like what naruto used to be. Now tho, shippers know no limits.
keep coping
I feel like it was less questionable when I was also 15 like the characters. As time goes by, I age, but not many animes do the same. Naruto did have the characters age along with me, but many others didnt. The school setting used to attract me to shows as a teenager, mainly because I was in school and it was relatable. As I grew up, I remember hitting 18 and watching animes like, heh, they're all younger than me now, so it did become a bit weird. I feel like it becomes normalized to an extent due to culture and also just us growning up around it. My 15 year old sister is currently into animes with very young characters, but its nothing weird, she just thinks they're cute because she's also young. It also does depend what goes on in these shows 😅
So, first thing, I have no idea how I got recommended this vid while I was watching your other videos, but alright!
Second thing, I watched Platinum End about a year ago and funny enough, I still listen to both the opening and ending to this day cause I think they're good. The show however, I agree, the premise is pretty solid, but the execution could have used some work. But man oh man, while you were explaining about the middle school girl being controlled by the villain, I couldn't help but burst out in laughter at how I had watched it more recently than you have and don't remember NONE of that shit! It's like I cleansed it from my brain because it was either too awkward or something else. I remember quite a few scenes from that show still, don't remember for a second who this middle school girl was that did that since only the main character's girlfriend was the only female character that stuck with me I guess.
Third and thing, correct me if I'm wrong, buuuuuuut, I could have sworn that lolis just meant little girls in general. I don't know that for certain, but I got chewed out for saying that same exact thing by an 'expert' in anime culture and they swear up and down that lolis are the term for young girls as shota is the term for young boys, so I was like 'ok' and walked away lol.
Fourth and final thing, I totally agree with your sentiment about characters being made kids, but not being treated as such or not showing more traits as such. I'm actually writing a story that I want made into an anime later that does this very thing, have a cast of kids that are shown more so as kids to let that have more weight for when they actually do grow up and you can see and feel the difference of these characters evolving naturally.
When it comes to utilizing the kid aspect, I can only think of Mob Psycho 100. Only show (that I've seen) showing actualy relatable character development when it comes to kids.
FLCL too, the show is an allegory for going through puberty.
Erased does a great job at it too.
Mob psycho was brilliant
What about naruto?
what about Hunter x Hunter? idk. maybe not that relatable but
It's gotten so bad now that it's practically a selling point to me if the cast is 18 and up.
I'm fed up of Animes chasing their past imaginary high school glory days.
Another trope I'm tired of is relationships never going anywhere. 90% of the time the MC can't even bare the thought to hold hands with anyone.
Even if they do show interest in a girl it never goes anywhere.
or like all the harem animes where the mc doesnt end up with a girl in the end
Usually for many popular series, the author has decided on the waifu and number of chapters, but demand for more chapters causes it to drag on
Nisekoi comes to mind
Just watch seinen anime...
This is getting ridiculous. Complaining about shonen anime showcasing shonen character.
It's like complaining about zhojo-kawai anime showing immature, overly cute character with no plot because it's a slice of life and could be resumed as small skit.
You literally speak from my mind, God bless you! Can you recommend me anything where cast is 18 and up but not too old and relationships actually lead to somewhere and doesn't take 4 seasons to just hold hands. Doesn't matter if it's anime, manga, manhwa, manhua, webtoon, webcomics, webnovels or even western comics.
@Mbita Acoustic Guitar stop promoting your own channel in the comments.
そうやって規制と思想が強くなって廃れていったのがポレコレだよ。様々なジャンルがあるんだから「あなたの好きなものを、あなたの見たいものを見る。」ただそれだけでしょ。
そもそも、海外でも人気が出てる日本のアニメのほとんどは"少年"アニメでしょ？主人公のほとんどが中高生なのもあたりまえなのよ。
その通りだと思う ぼくがアメリカ向けにアニメ作るんならポリコレ対策で、女性として生まれて筋肉モリモリで30歳のいかついトランスジェンダーを主人公にすることにするよ それでも人気でるのかな？ww
Hello reps, your argument that regulating the depiction of sexualized underage characters will lead to the decline of certain genres is baseless. It's not about censorship or controlling thoughts, it's about protecting children from exploitation and abuse. There are plenty of other genres and themes that can be explored without resorting to the sexualization of minors.
Just because a majority of anime with popularity overseas is shonen anime, it doesn't justify the sexualization of underage characters. The fact that the majority of main characters are middle or high school-aged is not an excuse to depict them in sexual situations. Normalizing such behavior is not only illegal but also morally repugnant.
The idea that people should just watch whatever they like without regard for the impact on others is selfish and shortsighted. It's important to be conscious of the content we consume and the message it sends to society. As responsible individuals, we should not condone or support the sexualization of minors in any form.
@@jamgjj2303性的な描写かどうかは関係なく、ポリコレ要素を取り入れたディズニーなどは売上が落ちているのは事実です
でも、ポリコレが原因ではなく、ポリコレ要素を取り入れるためにむりやり原作改変したことなどが原作でしょう
@@jamgjj2303 And besides, fictional characters have rights too.
@@jamgjj2303 最好别用翻译翻译他的日文了lol你都不知道翻译的话和他说的话是不是真的准确，只会说英语的人就是这样
Better not use a translator to translate his japanese lol you don't even know if the translation and what he said are really accurate, people who only speak english are like that lol
I love anime but the weirdos always sticks out
Anime MCs being teens is most likely due to that being the target demographic. But i agree, the industry does need more adult MCs
Stop watching shonen anime if you're looking for non-shonen protagonists. Shonen literally means youthful boy.
Tbh theres a lot anime that have adult mc if you search deeper
Or more Seinen. But sadly Seinen doesn't sell much.
@@rayyanali4471 Because most adults don't actually watch anime. MAYBE they read manga but hardly any anime
Lmao stop watching shonen and you will find enough adult mc's
I'm a weeb, and this man is spitting facts. There absolutely needs to be more shows with staring adults. Or hell, put them in college if you want to have the school still be there.
My favorite anime’s starring adults is Mushishi, Nana, Yuri on Ice (tho still has some teen characters but majority are young adults or older) plus the main character is in their early 20s, CowboyBepop, and B the Beginning.
Anime is cringe and annoying get a job
@@Pure100percentfacts_ Have a job and watch anime. Next.
@@Pure100percentfacts_ based
Isn't this mostly about shounen animes though? I get that shounen is the mainstream for anime, but in Japan it's literally a genre that targets teen boys. If you're looking for older protagonists try seinen instead...
5:48 *Places down wooden spoon*
I don't know why but i can sense this somewhere in his audience
If you have any doubts or are a little disgusted, find out the reasons and causes.
In the first place, Tokyo Revengers is not a work made for foreigners.
Shinji is probably the best representation of an actual kid, he's immature, he can't take big decisions alone, he's very sensitive and actually feels real
like me!!
Omg he's just like me fr fr
@@daxaalc158 fr
And then the Evangelion movie "came" in. (No pun intended)
this just made me remember some scenes with asuka from 2.22
The thing I hate about anime is how everytime a female character gets into a fight, everyone in my house suddenly thinks im watching hentai
You're watching the wrong anime then.
there isn't a difference, degenerate
Yeah, it gets so uncomfortable when I’m watching one piece and it mega zooms in on Namis breasts
@@sbeve8975 lol you watch one piece
stop watching anime. its made by peddle files for pedle files. it must be banned. all anime watchers should be sent to camps fema and placed into ovens
this is the main reason I fell off anime in my 20s. It always made me feel like a creep for watching
そもそも昔から海外向けに作ってないんだよ。だから合う合わない批判が出るのは当たり前
手っ取り早いのは自分達の国で見たいアニメを作れるように行動すべきだよ
Wtf? This is the worst excuse to defend sexualisation of kids. Yall are weirdos for real, cos there a fine line as to what's acceptable to differentiate and what is just plain harmful and one of those things is the sexualisation of children everywhere. Wtf is wrong with you?
I hate how normalised “Loli” characters are, considering that the main appeal is the fact they appear biologically very young and infantile, but they’re ‘enjoyed’ because they’re older than they appear. It’s completely fine for people irl to appear younger than they do of course (it’s quite common due to genetics) but it’s the hyperfixation on the fact that they appear childlike in film/anime that’s gross and fetishy.
I agree with you 💯👍. Its so WEIRD 😰
@Anonymous Panacea you know that in most areas in Japan the age of consent is 16-18 and the 13 is only valid on uninhabited islands
@Anonymous Panacea man out here calling lolis 'cultural'
Yet u have a shota pic lol
@Anonymous Panacea It can still be weird. Plus, loli is *heavily* frowned upon in Japan, so it's not like liking lolis is normal over there
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Toyoko remembers is a bad example because it does have them as adults and the choices that were made while they were in middle school kept leading to a certain characters death. So he had to “time travel”” to fix whatever causes the death of that person.
一方的に悪く言われてるのかなと思ったら、ただ自分に合わないアニメの説明をしてるだけだった。
それと、殆どの主人公が高校生なのは単純にみんなが共通して通る道だからだと思ってたけど、そう言う見方をする人が多いのがびっくり。
その感性は羨ましいとは思わないけど、そう言う見方をするのであれば確かにちょっとやり過ぎな部分はあるよね。
そういうことに人一倍敏感な海外だからしょうがないけど、もうちょっと気楽に見て欲しいかな。
あと、嫌だと思ったら一話二話で切っていいのよ？笑不快な思いまでして見なくていいよ。
I don't care about your opinion as a Japanese person. The fact that so many anime have high school students as the main characters is disgusting and it just shows that Japan is obsessed with sexualizing children. It's not a "cultural difference," it's just wrong. And no, it's not enough to just stop watching after one or two episodes. People need to speak up and demand better from the media they consume. You should be ashamed for defending such a disgusting industry.
Don’t watch it if you don’t like it isn’t the answer for why children are the main theme for a lot of anime. Explain your reasoning instead of shutting down the argument.
@@eleonarcrimson858 Instead of talking empty words here why not lower your crime rate and sex crime rate in America? These are much higher than Japan. Is a country full of violence and drugs really qualified to blame others? Don’t you feel ashamed?
When it’s a Slice of Life, it makes sense with the school setting, but most other anime, it doesn’t really need setting. It would make more sense if the characters were older and it wouldn’t really take away from the story. I also agree with the notion that Platinum End is not that good.
Op and Ed go hard tho
Yup agreed! Slice of life genre shows actual school life.
Like it could be a slice of life about other stuff. But yeah. A school setting makes sense when the basis is living life as a student. And all the random stuff you can get up to during that phase of life.
I also noticed that when i was younger, i want to be like batman, superman, james bond, rambo,etc. all these adult characters but when it comes to anime, i somehow dont want to be like the teenage main character because i know for a fact that teens are cringy and annoying.
I honestly dont know where they get the idea that the characters of the show should also be a teen if the show is targeted to teenagers. All the things i aspired to be when i was a kid are always adult characters but i dont remember wanting to be a teenage character.
I find it very cringy that people proudly call themselves “Weebs”. Just say you watch anime…Jesus Christ.
They’ve ascended beyond just watching anime
The word weeb lost its meaning. Otaku would be the word for someone who likes anime; weebs are people who are obsessed with Japanese culture so much that they wish they were Japanese.
@@zrell4990 Words change
@@81droid81 True, except weeb hasn't. A word can't change if it's thrown around mindlessly without anyone agreeing with a new definition. Different countries may see the word differently aswell
@@zrell4990 Clearly enough people have changed how they use it for it to bother you
日本人の子供が対象に漫画が描かれるんだから感情移入しやすいように中学生や高校生のキャラが出てくる事が多くなるのは当たり前だろ。
何も調べずにどんな背景があってどんな思いで漫画が描かれてるのかも知らない、ただただアニメを沢山見てきた"だけ"の奴が偉そうなこと言ってんじゃねえよ。
こういう問題提起の動画を撮る前にもっと沢山の情報を調べてから動画を撮るべき。
それな、アニメは日本人の文化だしアメリカ人のために作られたのではない、昔から中学生や高校生が起用されてきたってだけ。過度な性的描写は良くないけど主人公やキャラが中学生、高校生なのは別に構わないだろうと思う。そういう中学生や高校生が成長して強くなるのが面白いし色々な事を学び進むのが良いところでもある。
自分の文化や意見を他の国の文化に押し付けるのは良くない、アニメは日本人の文化でアメリカ人がそれを見て面白いと思ったから好かれてるようだけど人の文化を勝手に自分たちの意見だけで変えようとしないでほしい。嫌なら見なきゃいい、アメリカ人だってハリウッドのあり得ないアクションをやめろと言われたらこれまでこれでやって来た文化だと反論するだろう。
そうやってアメリカの影響で文化が変えられて面白くなくなったら意味がない、アメリカの影響力は凄いし収入も増えるけどアメリカが文化を変える権限を持っている訳ではない。自分たちが気にくわないと言って変えようとするのはやめてほしい他の国の文化なのだから気にくわない所があるのは当たり前だ。
日本のアニメはアメリカに影響されずにそのままアニメを作り続けてほしいアメリカに寄り添ったアニメを作ったりせずアメリカ依存をせずに日本は日本のアニメを作ってほしい。
I think so many are 15 years old or so are because it's an age that isn't too adult for younger kids, isn't too young kid for adults, and it's an age relatable for many teenagers. It's kind of like a "middle" age of appeal among different ages, especially among people who (I think) are likely to watch shounen anime, although it's certainly on the younger side if counting an age 13-30 something demographic 3:30
completely agree. the obsession with kids in anime when they should be adults absolutely destroys my enjoyment sometimes
The over sexualization of characters of any age makes me drop a lot of shows, especially bothers me when the characters young
@@white.4023 exactly this. as a weeb myself i won't watch anything tagged ecchi. I watch hentai, and I watch normal anime. I don't need a inbetween.
@@Subt0nix bruh
@@binemisko he spiting facts ngl
@@Subt0nix if u refuse to watch ecchi, u're not a weeb ure a normal person that watches anime every once in a while
As an anime fan, I’m glad someone actually admits to liking Jojo part one, usually someone will tell you to skip part one-which I think is kinda crazy because I think Jonathan Joestar is awesome and part one and two are very important (obviously) to the overall story; I don’t get why people tell others to skip.
Jonathan needs more respect man
Personally I can’t watch jojo, the animation and outfits just cringe me tf out.
@@riioas5543 For me the first 3 part is at least ok. But the rest of it literally the characters looks weird and the art animation looks like you having a fever dream or an acid trip.
Ikr. I actually loved part 1, I get mad when people tell others to skip part 1 ngl..But I can get how it gets boring at times
@@riioas5543 I respect your opinion, but you should watch it for the story rather than what they’re wearing but I’m not forcing you or anything it’s all good.
Exactly my issue with it that's why I like war anime because they don't focus on sick stuff in most anyways.
うーん、そうだなああ。個人的に日本人としてアニメに一般人と同じくらいのレベルで触れてきて感じることは（めっちゃアニメ好きってわけでないしもう全然見なくなった）小学校とか中学校の頃は自分と同じ歳の主人公の方が嬉しかったし、なんか読む気になれた気がする（ごめんめっっちゃ完璧に他人を納得させられる理由は挙げられないかも）それで、多分昔のアニメ産業は（アニメ化される前に漫画とかを減るから漫画って言った方が正しいかも）子供を主な対象にしてたと思う。今は大人も外国の人も見るようになったけどその習慣がずっと残ってきてると思う。今のアニメを作った人もそういう環境で育った人だしね。でも15歳くらいとか明らかに子供っぽいキャラをなんか性的コンテンツが混じるアニメで用いるのが確かに気持ち悪いのはわかる。 Sorry guys, I'm japanese and my japanese is obviously better than english so i commented in japanese. i dont want you guys to get me wrong way but when i was a kid i felt like the protagonist which is close to my age was good for me, like i can more get into the plot? hopefully make sense lol.
I can think of two reasons:
1. To sell this fantasy to their target audience
2. To fit a certain type of character growth, that main character from platinum end would look pretty weird as an adult
Your first point is probably the most accurate one. Shounen anime/manga authors typically make the most important characters teenage boys because the target audience are teenage boys and it makes the characters more relatable to them. Same with shoujo but with teenage girls(though more often than shounen series there's more of a mix of boys too).
@@Mutterschwein i agree totally. That is most definitely it
I really hope Charlie sees this one because this is definitely the answer, its for the target audience members for them to be able to relate with the characters, people like to watch things they can relate to.
Also even though in America we may see these mature themes in anime too vulgar but Japan seems to have different views.
Also lets be honest, when were younger a good amount of us were into being exposed to mature content and that made us be even further interested in the content.
I thing your initial point is most accurate. The age of concent in Japan is 13 which gives them this weird grey area to make content like that that TECHNICALLY "isn't weird" because the characters are "past the age of concent", but is also fulfilling to the audience who have those fantasies about those age groups.
Another reason I can think of is that the Japanese society's impact on the authors, whereas they had all the fun, innocence, and all in high school before entering the adult world in which they considered dull or empty, though I think that's only for the shonen category of anime and not like the seinen category of anime where main characters are actually adults
I absolutely agree. If you're looking for an actual reason why they're always 15, it's because the targeted audience for the show is usually teenagers, (anyone from the age of 12-18 years old) so they try to aim for an age that's somewhere in the middle so the characters are relatable. However, the ones you brought up sounds like they have much more mature themes and I agree, the characters definitely should be aged up for the sake of making the show less creepy. Typically if the main characters are adults it's intended for an older audience, so it is strange whenever they have 12 year olds as the main cast in a more mature anime.
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It’s called platinums end and I only read it because it was the same guys who did deathnote that made it. It’s a manga first… then an anime. The first two volumes I read told me everything. I felt really gross reading it.
I now understand why people were adamant to sell their collection of it now
Holy shit… he’s right that the characters in plat end didn’t need to be highschoolers at all…
@@Nitrodino7875 platinum end is is Shonen Jump
Shonen Jump is a teen male magazine that is why
Wait until Charlie watches Made in Abyss...
Wait until he sees Mushoku Tensei 😬
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the age demographic of the people watching the shows, like there are probably many more middle schoolers or high schoolers that watch anime that adults (atleast in Japan lol) so it makes it easier to self insert I guess and that drives up sales. I don't really know just some speculation.
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Is that the Spy from Team Fortress 2?
@@Treeplanter8 no, i disguised myself as scout
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Take a shot every time he says “them being kids doesn’t add anything to the plot”
Jokes aside tho, I completely agree
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The thing is the statement is worded in a way where it might be true. The real question is not if children add something to the plot but if adults would take something from the plot.
@@SpeedyDrip you are a brave guy
I used to comments on YT anime related videos but eventually stopped because there would be too much discourse 😅 Now, I only comment on edits/theories videos, the fans can be extreme as the kpop one.
Good point, but most of the manga's are published through shonen jump and shonen jump has a clear outline about the type of manga they publish. They cather mostly to 'young boys', that's why they are called 'shonen jump' because shonen means 'Young Boy' so the protagonist is oftend time going to be a young boy.
I feel like the early 2000’s teenage romcoms had this issue as well. Most of the actors were in their 20’s, sometimes even 30’s. They’re all having sex and doing drugs and spending all this money and living like absolutely no high schooler does. Like, just put them in college. Why does it have to specifically be high school?
Euphoria in a nutshell
Or every slasher film
I heard it's because everyone has gone to high school, but not everyone goes to college. So they dont want to leave people out apparently.
@@axolotl_fan8732 That's bullshit, who cares about how they feel if they didn't go to college it doesn't matter lmao
Because it isn't real
There's no point in fiction it was realistic
I live in Japan, and have talked to a number of people about this. Although, to be honest, I see more often anime is usually based in High School and not JHS. So I've asked a number of people, "Why are so many anime characters in high school?"
I asked an Otaku girl I went to the Kyoto Manga museum with and even some ladies at a Maid Cafe, as well as their boss. All of them except the boss had more-or-less the same answer; "I never really thought about that." Which, ironically, is what I would call the "lip of the well of the culture", where maintaining the status quo is ingrained into most of Japanese culture. The boss of the maid cafe had a slightly more interesting answer where he told me that most adults are too busy after high school to have fantastic adventures, high schoolers are blank slates.
And, as someone who's written some stories that involve younger children, most of the story they could be replaced with adults for most of it; I rarely acknowledged their schooling, or their parents, because the story wasn't about their school, nor was it about their parents, so it was tough to make room for those concepts within the story I wanted to write. However, the reason I chose to make it about kids is that it makes the scale of "something bigger than the layman's understanding" feel that much bigger, it also helps to justify seemingly irrational behavior - so long as I kept the "they're just kids" idea at the front of the readers mind, I think it's easy for the reader to justify why a character might do something that is poorly thought out.
Exactly! I don’t get why people don’t understand this. Anime characters tend to mostly be kids or teenagers for the sake of A) target audience/demographic, B) marketing/genre, and/or C) having an easier time writing the characters doing irrational things, or having character flaws that feel believable. Especially in coming-of-age stories.
That’s why shounen anime and shoujo anime are their own subgroups. And it’s why not as many of them revolve around adults.
And it’s why seinen anime are the ones that tend to mostly revolve around adults and more adult issues.
Adults often don’t go through the same issues or immaturity that kids and teens go through that make a lot of shounen anime work, so they often end up as side characters, mentor figures, or villains instead.
I get Charlie says the characters being the age that they are isn’t relevant to the plot of Tokyo Revengers specifically, but I saw a few comments detailing how gang activity does tend to happen with characters that age-with the anime obviously exaggerating some things since it’s fictional.
This reply was very true. Adolescence is bliss when you’ve got time to kill, especially since I’ve been an adult all but for one year now.
@@komarunaegi7460 ye but at the same time a majority of animes are unrelateable. Just entertaining
Yeah but you don't make your characters fuck
@@kartikreddy4102 That’s subjective tho. Different people relate to different things. Especially when anime mostly really cares about appealing to Japanese audiences. A lot of anime *is* meant to be entertaining and a lot of people (including in Japan) do only see it as that, but there are a lot of people that do end up relating to some of the characters and their struggles, too.
the reason most anime mc are kids is because the shoen jump target demographic are 13 and older
you made 2 excelent points in this video
1: lolis shouldn't exist
2: Jojo's part 5 slaps
I agree with Charlie on this one. It is kind of strange to see child characters doing adult things with no explanation as to where the parents are. I'd also like to throw in a hot take of my own: I don't like anime where the pervert character gets away with intentionally manhandling, or straight up molesting/gr@ping, other characters because they are either children, female, or homosexual. I'm not talking about scenarios where the character trips and unintentionally gropes someone. I'm talking about characters groping and molesting other characters on purpose without the consent of the one getting assaulted, and getting away with it.
yeah and they make that a quirky personality trait too like no?? thats a crime??
Yeah the tengen scene
Yaoi™
And they use the term "Man of Culture" if you like these stuffs which is just a negative influence to someone using the internet. They somehow tolerate these kind of things by saying that they're a man of culture without realizing their actions. The wrong contextualization and usage of Man of Culture sometimes affect someone
It's a common occurrence for characters to trip and "accidentally" grope another character? Anime is odd
As a weeb, i completely agree. Yeah I'm a teenager and I'm fine with most MC's being teens since it shows their growth throughout the show, but when it comes to explicit stuff and they show it on the screen, it's just creepy.
I agree with this 💯👍
Based. Not every weeb have that opinion. You gain my respect
i agree
I respect your opinion as an anime lover myself.
I hope u know a weeb is a non-Japanese person who is so obsessed with Japanese culture that they wish they were actually Japanese and wanting to be something u aren’t especially when it comes to a race is wrong….
Tokyo Revengers is a shounen anime. They're middle schoolers because the target demographic are 14-15 year olds
Thank you for knowing part 1/2 is better
There are some animes that use the youth of the characters to provide contrast as they progress through the plot, showing them change from naive/vulnerable to dark and damaged. It makes you feel for the characters more, and I think Tokyo Ghoul did this quite well initially. But for most animes, them being kids is just so irrelevant. The amount they’re sexualised just ends up feeling perverse
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Fanservice stuff are kinda weird
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Japanese culture has an obsession with middle and high school
The Tokyo Ghoul "protagonists" what the whole reason I couldn't stand the show.
The sense of responsibility instilled in the adults of East Asia is strong. Parents are expected to die for their children, workers are expected to work themselves to death, and no one is expected to complain, the only time they were ever free of that expectation is when they were kids. Even the artists in the studios that produce the anime are probably working themselves ragged.
yep
They're incredible, really. You haven't seen it all until you've seen a Japanese man drawing his hands raw while making a basketball manga.
so you're saying the viewer is remembering when they were kids? and how times were simpler and free of responsibility? that does not make it okay to sexualize a drawn 14 year old. cringe
@Beast v2🔥 cringe
@UCiI3CGnkVZveyVYdGXbQwBw cause Japan work culture is just toxic no natter what you do. Working such long hours, even if you love something you still get tired. You just want to go home and enjoy some nice time.
I feel like when I started watching anime (12-14) a lot of shows made sense because I was that age and as a child I was definitely in a more graphic environment but looking back at some of the stuff I watched I probably wouldn’t watch it again
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