I have to say, i'm pretty chuffed it was me who got to drop that reveal at the end there. Thought it was such an awesome use of the lore when I first read it. :)
Its also the place where Adama beat a Cylon to death with a flashlight and according to Razor/Chrome and Blood, it wasn't the first time Adama punched a Cylon
Well, when I first saw it, I kinda suspected. There's also some pre-release playthroughs on various youtube channels, and early on, Ragnar is mentioned as a recommended destination, so that pretty much settled it for me.
Half way through the video or whenever it was, when you mentioned hiding in Ragnar, I started noticing the similarities in the design, but I just chalked it up to both being Colonial designs. I never thought it could have been the same station.
That was a very clever story element that they put in. Galactica started its colonial fleet life at Ragnar station and then it started its life as a part of the Exodus Fleet at Ragnar station. To quote Jurassic Park, "Clever Girl."
The Daidalos would have been a godsend for Galactica during the Fall. It would not had time or resources to build new ships but could have repaired Galactica back to war standard of the First Cylon War. And Galactica would had lasted longer than it did in the series.
also they could have scavenged their destroyed fleet and boneyard. likely bring the civilian ships up to military grade (armour and point defence weapons strapped on to them) make new vipers and raptors alongside repairing their ships if need be. maybe even build smaller warships. maybe even new Battlestar as that what the station was made to build Jupiter class Battlestars at a rate of around 4 a year and the series is spread over around 5- 6 years as it would have helped on new Caprica to build infrastructure
@@jamesxiaolong2199 Adama knew the Cylons were coming and that the skin jobs (and likely other modern cylon vessels could survive in Ragnar long enough to reach the Anchorage and destroy the civilian fleet. Ragnar had also been abandoned for a while when Galactica returned for the last time to collect the ammunition reserves she would use throughout the exodus. Otherwise Adama would certainly have stayed for a while and likely salvaged some of the less useful Civilian ships to repair Galactica and restore it to condition, although that would have taken weeks and even if the Cylons could reach the station they would have had ample time to pull in more Basestars to make escape impossible.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 and, in a perfect world, he would have done so. However, time was not on his side. first, his discovery of the human Cylon onboard the station, and then Starbuck's finding the battlefleet above Ragnar, it was clear to Adama that time was NOT on his side. as much as he would have loved to fully restore Galactica to her former glory, he HAD to think of human survival first, so, he made the gutsy move of having Galactica shield the civilian fleet while it jumped out, and then followed suit, beginning its journey to Earth.
@@patricklenigan4309 my thoughts were more, “get the FTLs online and bring it with us” doing piecemeal repairs throughout the exodus until it’s destroyed above New Caprica.
I thought it looked familiar...ragnar anchorage...such a shame you were later stuck inside a gas giant after the war, but at least you helped galactica get her groove back.
Depends on if Ragnar was in a free fall orbit (like the ISS), and how the Atmosphere of Ragnar interacts with the hull over the years. Assuming the Cylons didn’t blow it up.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how bad an idea it is to have the Athena docked with it's engines pointed at the super structure of the Daidalos at 3:06. Not to mention those connection points are clearly designed for the battlestars to be facing inwards head first...
Presumably a ship could leave those docks using station-keeping thrusters, or tugs. I'm sure, though, if you threw the engines of a battlestar full out, yeah, it would do quite a lot of damage to the station.
Interesting. So this is the station where the galactica resupplied itself in the first season and had its first standoff with the cylons in the series.
@@oldrelic2690 the Galavtica could have finally gotten its armour & guns replaced. Pegasus & Galactica could have converted a few civilian ships into corvettes or something too
And if they could make a mining operation they could expand the fleet, maybe making another battlestar. And if the cylons can't find Ragnar, then they're ducked because they don't know where these battlestars are coming from
One thing I wish they'd done is made it so that when you jump thrbwtation into a right you saw thebpartially constructed ships of whatever you had in the immediate build queue in its bays and had the potential for the half built ships to be destroyed before they were ready. It really would have made me think twice about throwing it into battle especially if I had a bunch of Battlestars on the build.
OH YES. I would love that! I basically use daedelos as just another fleet even at admiral difficulty. If there was the threat of everything i was building being torn to shreds and my reinforcements vanishing, i wouldn't park it in helios alpha engaging side mission markers and random roving cylon fleets EDIT : to compensate, you could give it a single infinite use munitions slot (like the kind the argos basestar has, given that daedelos carries a lot of munitions and ammo so no reason it should run out of shit to fire) and MAYBE a long range EW target painter like assault raptors have
So this is the fabled Ragnar Anchorage. I loved that station in the Miniseries. I felt like it would have been a better thing to revisit, but the story wouldn't allow it I suppose. I would loved to have seen something done with the Anchorage.
Why did the Colonial fleet did not have it ready for another war? It could have been a nice tool to beat back the Cylons. Man, first the Pegasus with their onboard Vipers factory and now this. Kind of makes the humans of BSG deserve everything that happened to them for their ignorance.
Keep in mind that had it still been in operation for the 2nd war, it probably would've fallen victim to the Cylon hack like the rest of the Colonial fleet did. The only reasons that the Galactica & Pegasus survived was because the former was being decommissioned on the day of the attack, & the Pegasus was undergoing an upgrade to it's systems. In both cases it was essentially a fluke that they survived.
Harrison11106 Not necessarily. Galactica had no networked computers, that's why it was not affected by the Cylon cyber attack. If the station would have avoided using networked devices, it would have been an amazing asset.
That's a fairly big if. Didn't Roselyn say to Adama words to the effect that if Galactica had been networked, it would probably still be in service (& thus been torn to shreds by the Cylons)? The station probably would have been networked, & suffered the same fate as the rest of the fleet. It would be a prime target too, I think, being a place that constructed military vessels for the fleet.
Lord Vader well the reasoning to returns to, WTH was it that easy to hack the entire military network, and if it was then why was 99% of the military networked.
Lord Vader Wait, you mean the Colonial human to beat back the Cylon, a race with way superior manpower, technology and material logistic compare to the Colonial? Okay. ;)
I feel like 2000 crew is undermanned for a shipyard. Unless you mean crew size for operation of the Daidalos itself and not personnel allocated to the production facilities. Side Note: Hope you guys do an updated version of this to include the DLCs that go in depth into the station's fate.
The specs you listed are a tad confusing to a model-maker like myself. Could you do a quick explanation of how they line up? Is "length" the height of the ship, etc.?
If it’s in the Ragnar Gas giant and that place is deadly to cylons does that mean it’s still operational ya it can go anywhere by way didn’t the Galactica and her fleet try to seek it out and make that there new home
wait so Daidalos is the future Ragnar station? So why does Cmdr. Adama say in the pilot "Its a super bitch to anchor at ragnar"? It seems like this is the perfect place for a battlestar to dock... Unless by that time the station is in disrepair? Does anyone know of Ron Moore was consulted for the story of this game?
I'm not sure if Ragnar in the show has those 4 big berths at the bottom. Presumably because its a resupply station now and not a shipyard. Forcing them to dock with the spinning ring which is of course difficult.
Because the Anchorage was located in the upper atmosphere of the Ragnar Gas Giant. Battlestar's are not designed to operate in atmosphere, even upper atmosphere, and would have to deal with the planet's gravity, the atmosphere's wind currents, and so on. presumably the outer atmosphere where the station is is fairly thin and the gravity well not too deep where the station is, but it would be enough to make navigating and docking annoying.
The explanation is in the show. The electromagentic storms that made Ragnar a perfect safe harbour from the Cylons also interfered with the Colonial systems as well. They had pre-plotted charts based on travelling at a certain speed for a certain length of time (a copy of the Thor's Twins scene from Hunt for Red October) that they had to use to get to the station. The DRADIS was useless inside Ragnar except for very close range, which is why they didn't detect the refugee fleet until it was already on top of them inside the gas giant and was also the reason they had to send Starbuck out to fly a recce.
I have to say, i'm pretty chuffed it was me who got to drop that reveal at the end there. Thought it was such an awesome use of the lore when I first read it. :)
Its also the place where Adama beat a Cylon to death with a flashlight and according to Razor/Chrome and Blood, it wasn't the first time Adama punched a Cylon
Well, when I first saw it, I kinda suspected.
There's also some pre-release playthroughs on various youtube channels, and early on, Ragnar is mentioned as a recommended destination, so that pretty much settled it for me.
Half way through the video or whenever it was, when you mentioned hiding in Ragnar, I started noticing the similarities in the design, but I just chalked it up to both being Colonial designs.
I never thought it could have been the same station.
That was a very clever story element that they put in. Galactica started its colonial fleet life at Ragnar station and then it started its life as a part of the Exodus Fleet at Ragnar station. To quote Jurassic Park, "Clever Girl."
I suggest to do a video on the Cylon Colony. It's rare to see cylons using kynetic ship to ship armament
Cylon War: Begins
Picon Fleet HQ: Bye
2nd Cylon War: Begins
Picon Fleet HQ: Here we go again
Literally bro 😂. Did they not learn the first time God damn
The Daidalos would have been a godsend for Galactica during the Fall. It would not had time or resources to build new ships but could have repaired Galactica back to war standard of the First Cylon War. And Galactica would had lasted longer than it did in the series.
also they could have scavenged their destroyed fleet and boneyard. likely bring the civilian ships up to military grade (armour and point defence weapons strapped on to them) make new vipers and raptors alongside repairing their ships if need be. maybe even build smaller warships. maybe even new Battlestar as that what the station was made to build Jupiter class Battlestars at a rate of around 4 a year and the series is spread over around 5- 6 years as it would have helped on new Caprica to build infrastructure
I thought that station became Ragnar Anchorage. If it had the capacity to restore Galactica I would think Adama would have done so before leaving.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 Adama knew the Cylons were coming and that the skin jobs (and likely other modern cylon vessels could survive in Ragnar long enough to reach the Anchorage and destroy the civilian fleet. Ragnar had also been abandoned for a while when Galactica returned for the last time to collect the ammunition reserves she would use throughout the exodus.
Otherwise Adama would certainly have stayed for a while and likely salvaged some of the less useful Civilian ships to repair Galactica and restore it to condition, although that would have taken weeks and even if the Cylons could reach the station they would have had ample time to pull in more Basestars to make escape impossible.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 and, in a perfect world, he would have done so. However, time was not on his side. first, his discovery of the human Cylon onboard the station, and then Starbuck's finding the battlefleet above Ragnar, it was clear to Adama that time was NOT on his side. as much as he would have loved to fully restore Galactica to her former glory, he HAD to think of human survival first, so, he made the gutsy move of having Galactica shield the civilian fleet while it jumped out, and then followed suit, beginning its journey to Earth.
@@patricklenigan4309 my thoughts were more, “get the FTLs online and bring it with us” doing piecemeal repairs throughout the exodus until it’s destroyed above New Caprica.
I thought it looked familiar...ragnar anchorage...such a shame you were later stuck inside a gas giant after the war, but at least you helped galactica get her groove back.
150,000 years later. What are the chances she is still there.
Waiting, silently.
Depends on if Ragnar was in a free fall orbit (like the ISS), and how the Atmosphere of Ragnar interacts with the hull over the years. Assuming the Cylons didn’t blow it up.
Wouldn't it have been nice to have a mothballed fleet of old battlestars at ragnar instead of just ammo. Keep up the good work on this channel!
Can we take a moment to appreciate how bad an idea it is to have the Athena docked with it's engines pointed at the super structure of the Daidalos at 3:06. Not to mention those connection points are clearly designed for the battlestars to be facing inwards head first...
Presumably a ship could leave those docks using station-keeping thrusters, or tugs. I'm sure, though, if you threw the engines of a battlestar full out, yeah, it would do quite a lot of damage to the station.
The strange part is that it's facing towards the station during the intro cutscene, but it facing away from it when it jumps to Picon.
I thought Daidalos looked a little familiar! Nice to know I was right and grats on getting to drop the Original "word" on it!
*thumbs up!
I knew it looked familiar! I can't wait to fry some toasters.
The Mechanicus would like to know your location.
Interesting. So this is the station where the galactica resupplied itself in the first season and had its first standoff with the cylons in the series.
Imagine if the Galactica had this with her during the exodus
Late I know. A mobile shipyard capable of warship construction
@@oldrelic2690 the Galavtica could have finally gotten its armour & guns replaced. Pegasus & Galactica could have converted a few civilian ships into corvettes or something too
And if they could make a mining operation they could expand the fleet, maybe making another battlestar. And if the cylons can't find Ragnar, then they're ducked because they don't know where these battlestars are coming from
Knowing the fleets luck, it would either have been destroyed above New Caprica, or it would have been lost in another disaster.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 100% if they had taken Ragnar Anchorage with them it would have just been blown up instead of Cloud 9 at the latest.
One thing I wish they'd done is made it so that when you jump thrbwtation into a right you saw thebpartially constructed ships of whatever you had in the immediate build queue in its bays and had the potential for the half built ships to be destroyed before they were ready. It really would have made me think twice about throwing it into battle especially if I had a bunch of Battlestars on the build.
OH YES. I would love that! I basically use daedelos as just another fleet even at admiral difficulty. If there was the threat of everything i was building being torn to shreds and my reinforcements vanishing, i wouldn't park it in helios alpha engaging side mission markers and random roving cylon fleets
EDIT : to compensate, you could give it a single infinite use munitions slot (like the kind the argos basestar has, given that daedelos carries a lot of munitions and ammo so no reason it should run out of shit to fire) and MAYBE a long range EW target painter like assault raptors have
So this is the fabled Ragnar Anchorage. I loved that station in the Miniseries. I felt like it would have been a better thing to revisit, but the story wouldn't allow it I suppose. I would loved to have seen something done with the Anchorage.
Holy shit I didn't even realize this thing became Ragnar Anchorage Station
Not gonna lie, when you said it it was Ragnar Anchorage, I flipped shit. Mind. Blown.
Shield and invisibility cloak drones lauch
said do more
Love your vids they're the highlight of my Tuesdays and Fridays
Why did the Colonial fleet did not have it ready for another war? It could have been a nice tool to beat back the Cylons.
Man, first the Pegasus with their onboard Vipers factory and now this. Kind of makes the humans of BSG deserve everything that happened to them for their ignorance.
Keep in mind that had it still been in operation for the 2nd war, it probably would've fallen victim to the Cylon hack like the rest of the Colonial fleet did. The only reasons that the Galactica & Pegasus survived was because the former was being decommissioned on the day of the attack, & the Pegasus was undergoing an upgrade to it's systems. In both cases it was essentially a fluke that they survived.
Harrison11106 Not necessarily. Galactica had no networked computers, that's why it was not affected by the Cylon cyber attack. If the station would have avoided using networked devices, it would have been an amazing asset.
That's a fairly big if. Didn't Roselyn say to Adama words to the effect that if Galactica had been networked, it would probably still be in service (& thus been torn to shreds by the Cylons)? The station probably would have been networked, & suffered the same fate as the rest of the fleet. It would be a prime target too, I think, being a place that constructed military vessels for the fleet.
Lord Vader well the reasoning to returns to, WTH was it that easy to hack the entire military network, and if it was then why was 99% of the military networked.
Lord Vader Wait, you mean the Colonial human to beat back the Cylon, a race with way superior manpower, technology and material logistic compare to the Colonial? Okay. ;)
I really dig the tie-in to the sci-fi BSG, the shipyards re-christening as the Ragnar station.
I feel like 2000 crew is undermanned for a shipyard. Unless you mean crew size for operation of the Daidalos itself and not personnel allocated to the production facilities.
Side Note: Hope you guys do an updated version of this to include the DLCs that go in depth into the station's fate.
Finished Sin and Sacrifice. RIP Daidalos.
You should do the USG Ishimura from dead space
Weee another battlestar!! YEY!!!!
3:40 I do hope somebody picks up that phone
Cause I fucking called it
Roger Coulombe You must be ice cold.
I think everyone called it...
No, that'll be his father.
Pride of hiigara
wait... THIS WOULD BECOME THE STATION THAT THE FLEET WOULD BEGIN THEIR EXODUS AT?! Wow
Oh shit, Daedelos became Ragnar Anchorage? So thaaaaats why they look so similar.
You should make a video on the BTL-S8 K-wing assault starfighter from Star Wars. Its a unique departure from most starfighter designs.
What's next on your list: the Mark I Vipers, the Mark II Vipers, the Jupiter-class herself?
I watched EntetElysium game play, it looks great but still needs work.
The specs you listed are a tad confusing to a model-maker like myself. Could you do a quick explanation of how they line up? Is "length" the height of the ship, etc.?
Length is height, ie how tall the station is.
Not to be nitpicky, but I always thought the name was 'Daedalus'? Or is that the way the developer has spelled the facility in the BSG universe?
Daidalos is an alternate way to spell Daedalus in the real world.
I have a suggestion. Do Tom's ship from Toonami. Both before & after versions.
"Stark and inelegant"? I think that applies to all BSG interiors!
If it’s in the Ragnar Gas giant and that place is deadly to cylons does that mean it’s still operational ya it can go anywhere by way didn’t the Galactica and her fleet try to seek it out and make that there new home
You see it in the Miniseries. It was nothing more than a resupply station, and the Cylons likely destroyed it after the fleet escaped.
Any chance of a Jupiter class battlestar video?
wait so Daidalos is the future Ragnar station? So why does Cmdr. Adama say in the pilot "Its a super bitch to anchor at ragnar"? It seems like this is the perfect place for a battlestar to dock... Unless by that time the station is in disrepair? Does anyone know of Ron Moore was consulted for the story of this game?
I'm not sure if Ragnar in the show has those 4 big berths at the bottom. Presumably because its a resupply station now and not a shipyard. Forcing them to dock with the spinning ring which is of course difficult.
Because the Anchorage was located in the upper atmosphere of the Ragnar Gas Giant. Battlestar's are not designed to operate in atmosphere, even upper atmosphere, and would have to deal with the planet's gravity, the atmosphere's wind currents, and so on. presumably the outer atmosphere where the station is is fairly thin and the gravity well not too deep where the station is, but it would be enough to make navigating and docking annoying.
The explanation is in the show. The electromagentic storms that made Ragnar a perfect safe harbour from the Cylons also interfered with the Colonial systems as well. They had pre-plotted charts based on travelling at a certain speed for a certain length of time (a copy of the Thor's Twins scene from Hunt for Red October) that they had to use to get to the station. The DRADIS was useless inside Ragnar except for very close range, which is why they didn't detect the refugee fleet until it was already on top of them inside the gas giant and was also the reason they had to send Starbuck out to fly a recce.
You can't build a ship without a shipyard.
Hey could you do the GunStar from the Last Starfighter
How about Babylon 5 station?
Could you do the puddle jumper from Stargate Atlantis please.
no fuck that
Could you please do a review of Ricks Junk- Spaceship from Rick and Morty? That would be awesome.
Yeah, sure... "Decommissioned"...