Battlestar Galactica: Battlestar Valkyrie (RDM) - Spacedock
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2016
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Spacedock returns to Ron Moore's "Battlestar Galactica" to look at the Battlestar Valkyrie.
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Just imagine how proud the crew of the This ship was having all that history behind them. Only to be destroyed in such a manner. Completely helpless
i actually planned on a fan fic of BSG, in which people were still left behind on the colonies, and they took some old Battlestar that was hidden on the surface of Sagittaron, as a part of the Sagittaron Democratic union (yes the same one from Deadlock) to compete against the Colonial Battlestars
@@novastardom2689 You wouldn't happen to be the author behind "The Guiding Fire," would you? Before the fic was seemingly abandoned, it did in fact have an SDU-controlled battlestar, or what was left of one, planetside, with thousands of refugees hiding from Cylons in it.
@@Phoenix-214 nope.
@@novastardom2689 Pity, that was a good fic. I'd have liked to know if there were any plans to continue it.
I still think it would have been cool if the Valkyrie was presumed destroyed in the Second Cylon War, only for it to show up one day and help the Colonial fleet, even if it is short lived. Like for example, the Valkyrie could've been hidden on New Caprica, and once Adama jumped in, maybe the Valkyrie could find the local Resurrection ship, destroy it, and therefore not make the Pegasus sacrifice in vain
it's really sad that we never got to see the colonial Fleet proper in action
would have been heavily onesided in the colonials favour i think, given the amount of damage galactica and pegasus inflicted in the show and the fact neither ship was at full strength makes me think the full colonial fleet would have been a force to be reckoned with
@@themadhammer3305 Most likely why Cyclons disabled it the way it did. =P
Pete X it would have been a more men than bullets situation
Battlestar Galactica Deadlock is an RTS* that follows the First Cylon War.
* sort of
@@themadhammer3305 yeah the Cylons even state that they wouldn't have stood a chance without Caprica 6 infiltrating the colonial navigational computers
sounds to me like the Valkyrie Class were more like the equivalent of modern day destroyer ships. And the Mercury and Galactica class chips were more like old battleships.
@Jason Walter very much so
I think the Valkyrie could be compared to a heavy cruiser while the Mercury class could be compared to a modern aircraft carrier. Galactica is more a cross between an antiquated aircraft carrier and a world war 2 battleship combined.
If we are going based on Deadlock, The Adamant Frigate would be closer to a modern day destroyer. Assuming they are still using old ships, but that is confirmed on the Pegasus story line, as there is a Berzerk class carrier docked at the Scorpia shipyards when the Fire Nation, Ahem mean Cylons Attacked.
It would be great to see a straight up battle between a fleet a Battlestars and a fleet of Baseships
Look up the Battle of Helios Delta 6.
Fan made mini-movie of sorts, but VERY good.
Tony Evans Ok I'll give it a look
Go play Battlestar Galactica Online. It's awesome
While it would be awesome to watch and a great visual spectacle, the outcome of said battle would be predefined before it even started.
In the show itself the Battlestar Galactica could take on at leas two (three would be a strech) Basestars, seeing as commander Adama seemed confident that the battle of New Caprica would be won before the toasters got reenforcements. Keep in mind that the Galactica was fraking ancient by that time, it was an over fifty-year-old ship.
Assuming that what you propose would be a battle of a fleet of a few modern Battlestars and the same amount, heck, even twice the amount of second war era Basestars, and ignoring the virus (which would probably be eliminated by the time any large scale battle would take place by simply downgrading the systems as was done with the Pegasus), the Basestars would be obliterated in minutes due to the sheer firepower of any given Battlestar. All weaponry of a Basestar was just missiles and nukes, though they'd also launch Raiders. And those were proven ineffective against a fully battle-capable, old Battlestar in the show. And the Battlestars' guns would easly shred the Basestars' armour as they'be done numerous times in the show.
From my understanding, Basestars are like pure Aircraft carriers, while Battlestars are Battleships with an oversized complement of Catapult-Fighters, so this would be a fairly one sided affair as soon as the Battlestars get in brawling range
It makes me a bit sad to see that name a 2:17. Rest in Peace David, you did amazing work.
With the new expansion for Deadlock being the Ghost Fleet offensive and the inclusion of the Orion then maybe we will get the Valkyrie on that game.
Man you really deserve a lot more subs, these episode are brilliant. A lot of hard to find facts presented in an entertaining format.
A look at the sleek and deadly Battlestar Valkyrie.
do one for the spear of adun of starcraft 2
+Spacedock
Great video :D
Would you consider doing the SDF-1 from the original Robotech series :)
It's a very special ship for me, because like many others out there i was one of those kids in the 80s who would get out of bed in the weekends at 06:00 in the morning (sat & sun) every weekend for as long as the show broadcasted on Superchannel just waiting for some sweet SDF-1 Daedalus attack action :D
+Mike A OH HELL YEAH yes do the Spear of adun.
Correction: the sleek and dead Battlestar Valkyrie
hey we need intelligence on the Eastern alliance destroyers. weapons. power plant and engines?
Man, the last few seconds in this talking about Baltars betrayal makes me sick all over again that when they found out they didn't just immediately eject him... Rarely have I ever had such vile hatred for a fictional character! LOL.
Throw him out the airlock, commanda.
@Johnny Dominguez well... first and foremost he's a coward, narcissist, and sociopath... so I think the primary lesson is to avoid giving those kinds of people power.. profession isn't really a factor here
@Johnny Dominguez I'm not disputing that, I was disputing it having anything to do with him being a doctor or scientist.. that's all
In my cycle...
Just found your channel! Amazing information, thanks for all your hard work!
That intro music! i havn't heard that since i last play bridge commader!
The most elegant of all battlestars. Nice work
If Baltar's back door into the Colonial's systems had been found earlier & taken out, would the Colonials have won the 2nd war?
Yes. No doubt about it. That's why the Cylons did it that way. A Basestar was absolutely no match for any Battlestar in the colonial fleet, as demonstrated perfectly by the aged Galactica easily going toe to toe with them and the Pegasus effortlessly obliterating them. So not only were colonial ships just vastly superior but the colonies also had an immense armada of said ships. The Cylon's chances at victory were zero in a straight up conventional war.
War450 The Colonials didn't know that the Cylons would attack, so even if the backdoor wasn't installed, the element of surprise would have been on the Cylons' side. They could easily jump in right next to the battlestars & start pounding away & swarming them with Raiders while the captains were momentarily still trying to process the attack. Initially their loses would have been big, but eventually the Colonials would have won.
DrakeMarvell
That wouldn't have worked. Jumping 'right next to' is the absolute worst thing the Cylons could do. Basestars were fragile as hell and a few solid hits from the ship-to-ship cannons on any Battlestar could absolutely destroy them. More than that a Basestar simply doesn't have the firepower to quickly kill a Battlestar. Just look at how many countless missiles and nukes the Galactica took.
So what would happen if they tried that is they'd jump next to the Battlestar, start dumping missiles into it, the Battlestar would train it's guns on the Basestar and blow it up in the first salvo.
You don't understand just how massively outclassed the Cylons were in terms of military might. Basestars seem imposing because they're fighting an ancient ass ship that can't repair or rearm itself. Against the actual colonial fleet the Basestar wasn't even a threat. That's why the cylons relied on the backdoor program. It was literally impossible for them to even do significant damage, let alone win. So they had to rely on simply removing the colonial's ability to even fight back.
The show demonstrates just how much work a pair of Battlestars can do against the Cylons. Now imagine entire fleets going to town.
War450 Yeah, now that you mention it, al those Basestars couldn't finish of pretty much the oldest ship in the fleet. Would jumping in, releasing all their Raiders to swarm them, jumping out, then jumping back in, this time in closer orbit of planets, to nukes the planets along with anything that services the fleet help, before jumping back out? Or would it just be futile?
DrakeMarvell
They could jump into orbit and nuke the planets but that'd be more akin to terrorism then anything else. Planets are big, nukes are not, it'd take them too long to nuke the entire planet. Sure they could nuke a bunch of cities and cause a lot of problems before the local Battlestars show up and kick their asses, but then that's that. The colonies would now be on high alert, they'd be defending their planets, and then they'd send their fleets into Cylon space and wipe the cylons from the face of the galaxy.
Most scifi have the 'super powerful race fucking over humanity', like the covenant in Halo or the Minbari in Babylon 5. Well in BSG the colonials were the super powerful race. A single Battlestar could solo like 4 Basestars. Beyond that the Colonials had MORE Battlestars than the Cylons had Basestars.
So in the short term they could do damage but all it'd do is get them fucked up and not really do any long-lasting damage. It'd be a tragedy for generations but as with Japan, people will rebuild.
Other than the virus there was simply no way the cylons could win, they were just that outclassed. The series portrays the cylons as big and impressive and scary, but in actuality they were weak as fuck. They were like the Taliban to the colonies, they couldn't actually do anything really worth mentioning.
The Star Knight Class Heavy Cruiser used by the Royal Manticoran Navy (Specifically HMS Fearless CA 286)
The CCS class Battlecruiser
Please do one on the Mercury Class Battlestar (ie the Pegasus) and/or the Galactica herself.
Fantastic video, well done you!! I subscribed before the end!
Space Battleship Yamato plz, I really enjoy watching ur videos, I and Im sure many would like longer videos thanks and keep up the great work!
Thanks for doing starblazers ships. An old fav from my youth👍🏻😊
Probably my favorite Battlestar design.. and I love both versions of the Galactica.
2:20 on the left you can see the Defender Class Battlestar which is a Kit Bash of the Original TOS Battlestar (Now known as the Artemis in Deadlock)
I hope that we'll see more of the 1st cylon war in the future. The Valkyrie is a very interesting ship.
I love the design of the Valkyrie. I want a model of one.
Would like to see an alternate movie of Battlestar Galactica in which the virus doesn't work against the colonies. The Cylons were cowards not risking a straight up fight against the colonies yet in a real war its never fair its all about winning.
Its alot like when the German codes where cracked. the cylons where fighting to win.
or the virus is only partly successful able to knock out a third or half the fleet before the Colonials realise they need to cut their networks
@@MrSlick16 given that Galactica held it's own with no networked computers...
@@MrSlick16 AU where the colonial IT department goes "What do you mean 'unfettered access' and 'unified networked command and control?' You realize the ONLY military threat that exists to us is a bunch of sentient computers? "
Every single one captained by Honor Harrington, from the books by David Weber
How many missile-pods can a battlestar tow?
Thanks Spacedock..
Frakkin Baltar!!
Man, I hated seeing _Valkyrie_ and the rest of her Battlestar group go down without a fight over Caprica. Damn dirty toasters!
You can now play as this ship in the strategy game BattleStar Galactica Deadlock using the "Modern ship pack". That pack also includes the Mercury class (BSG Pegasus), Mk VII Vipers, and the Cylon double triangle base star, as well as a prototype base star from Blood and Crome, and the modern letter "C" looking Raiders. You can't play them in the campaign, but you can use them with the Anabasis mini-campain where you escort civilian ships from mission to mission to get them home.
Valkyrie is actually the weakest Colonial Battelstar in the game now, being weaker than even the Artemis class (aka 1979 original series) battlestar.
Great TV show.... definitely miss it
hey your videos are great! just one thing, according to what I know, the Valkyrie does have viper launch tubes. I dont remember the source where I read that, but you can see those launch tubes. They are below the flight pods, on the forward way of the each pods. In total, 6 launch tubes.
I liked watching the OS Battlestars going toe to toe with the QS Basestars. but watching the reimagined Pegasus taking out the reimagined Basestars was good watching as well.
Seriously, this plus the Mercury class, no wonder the Cylons thought someone was out to get them.
My favourite battlestar design. Small but potent. :)
Where did that scene of the Valkyrie being scanned with the disabling beam come from?
Would you be able to blend ship designs together to create a hypothetical ship variant in a crossover between certain scifi franchises? Say you wanted to create either a Star Destroyer or a Battlestar for the Federation in "Star Trek", how would you go about doing it, and how would it eventually look?
Still love the through shot of the pod
The Valkyrie class is my favorite of the Battlestar designs - beautiful beautiful ship!
Great videos! I like to see one for the SDF-1 from Robotech aka Macross.
YES!!!!! and maybe a few Veritech fighter variants!
They only shame there was from that show is that we didn't get to see the fleet in action properly that is.
I would still love the see a video of The Mothership from Homeworld, if you ever saw the original manual for that game it was so much more than just a manual for the game.
nice video i always wondered what the other classes of ships were in the colonial navy
id love to see the EAS AGAMEMNON from Babylon 5 & the Excalibur from Crusade
I always wanted to see the Valkyrie or one of its class go toe to toe with a basestar. It is far the most pleasing ship in the (BSG) universe to my eye. I would be interested in any video about Ori motherships.
well, the closest thing we'll ever get only happens in BattleStar Galactica Deadlock, but Skirmish Mode isn't exactly as canon as the Story mode or Anabasis Mode
i noticed you use the theme music for battle zone 2. would be nice to see some videos about their spaceships and the ISDF and scion forces.
Hadn't watched any of your older videos before. Surprised to hear the Star Trek Bridge Commander theme music at the start!
Makes sense that you would have liked that game, ship nerd that you are (and in good company!).
What's this about the exposed FTL drive? Was that invented flavour text, or do you have a canonical source? I'll have to grab a 3D model of the Valk and check that out.
I always felt like that episode broke BSG internal canon. I got the impression in the pilot episode that Adama had been commanding the Galactica for a long time at that point. Gaeta even makes a point of noting what a pleasure it had been to serve under Bill "these last 3 years" - something I initially took as an indication that Gaeta, not Adama, had come aboard 3 years prior.
Does anyone have any ideas on the FTL Jump Drive distance?
Strictly speaking, no ship "fell victim" to the CNP program; they all had Colonial GPS installed. Now, the backdoor that Six installed into it, THAT they fell victim too. (Have to presume the CNP itself worked like a champ, for it to be so widely adopted.)
your right and without that back door the colonials would have kicked the shit out of the cylons, we see in the show how much damage the galactica and pegasus could inflict of a basestar now imagine the whole fleet taking them on while properly networked together, well armed and well maintained
The Mad Hammer. i imagine thats why the first war lasted so many years and ended in a stalemate.
Gorgeous ship. Makes me want to go re watch the show
whats the back ground music please
Do more BSG. Love your style and couldsee you as a commander in a movie.
I'd love to see this in Battlestar Galactica Deadlock
Cool
I was hoping to see this in the new Deadlock game considering it was built at the start of the 1st war
I would love to see this ship added into BSG Deadlock as a multi-class light Battlestar similar to the Artemis
The music from battle zone 2
This ship reminds me of the Babylon 5 tv series Ranger’s ships in it Silhouette!
I know it is probably a long-shot and that it not part of the BSG canon, but what do you think of the ships in BSG Online, in particular their possible sizes and uses based on the ship design alone, not what can be loaded onto them in-game?
It's finally in Battlestar Galactica Deadlock as part of the modern ships pack.
Kick Ass Ship !
since you do almost any science fiction I'd like to see your space stock report on the r Wing from Star Fox from any series classic or new and maybe the great Fox from Starfox as well
Do the SD Lucifer from Descent: Freespace!
Could you do some more halo stuff. I really love the video on the pheonix and infinity and would love to see more. There are a ton of ships to choose from so it shouldn't be to hard. Maybe the Paris class frigate?
Have you watched the movie Harlock: Space Pirate? I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Arcadia. It is one of the most beautiful ships I think. Love your stuff btw. I ADORE spaceship design. Thank you.
If they do another series it would be interesting if it was on Battlestar Valkyrie during the first Cylon War.
I like to know about the Galactica herself the new and old versions
3:28 too depressing to watch
She was a fine ship.
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would you do a video on the Mercury class battlestar
Please review the TOS Klingon D-7
Is the information about the FTL drive beeing on the outside of the ship canon, or did random people scrape that together?
3:33 literally flying right past a Cylon basestar at point blank range, without firing. This is before the backdoor shut the ship down.
any plans for a closer look at either the Galactica or Pegasus?
Do one on the Stealth Star!
where did you find those vids? ive never seen these scenes before.
¿ How many peaple made it out of caprica before the cylons made it ?
what about the Galaitca? you got info on her?
Damn nice ship... i want one :)
Q: What info do you have on the Cylon Basestar from the original series of BSG? How many raider did they hold? etc... Also any info on the Millennium Falcon? How many of that series of ship was built? How long did Lando own the ship etc...
id love to see a new and old basestar video as their both iconic ships in their own right, as for the millenium falcon as i understand it she was a pretty standard freighter design so there was probably quite alot of them and on the point of how long did lando own the ship for, i think the better question is how many owners has it had, if i remember rightly there were 4 after han mentioned in the force awakens
can you do more videos on battlestars please because this video was very intresting
I'd like to see a review of the Liberator from Blake's 7.
Can you do other Battlestars and their support vessels I've always wondered about some of the ships in the Ghost Fleet
Where'd you get the stats for these?
The Battlestar Orion should be given a shouout in a video in the future.
Could you do one on the USS excelsior?
Can you also do the Viper Blackbird please?
Do the warhammer 40k Gloriana-class Battleship
I wish this beauty had been in Deadlock.
Daniel Haire it maybe added in the future
You know sometimes I think the "toasters" had a backup to counter the Colonial ships that didn't have the Network system. I believed that if they could shut down the Network, they would be able to reactive the Colonial systems to use against them
when will u do the Pegasus or galactica
Where's all this information and screencaps of the first war coming from? I feel like I've somehow completely missed some key Galactica material.
Blood and chrome bsg prequel
You should do BC 304-USS daedalus class from stargate
Pleas consider doing a segment on the Jupiter 2 from the 1998 movie.
CIWS is pronounced "see-whiz".
Former navy puke that also knew these things as R2-D2 with a hard on.
A Phalanx radar system paired with a 20mm Vulcan Gatling gun that if let in continuous burst would shoot the incoming object then go nuts shooting the falling pieces out of the air.
On it's first test it killed the chase plane and then started shooting up the chain of the tow plain until it was turned off.
If we can do this, imagine what the Battlestar"s could do.
Though not as big as a Galactica class, still 2128 feet long and as tall as a 22 story building. big damn ship.
Valkyrie class was like arleih Burke destroyers, mercuries were like the Iowa post modernization, and galactica is basically uss Texas in space
You don't realise how small the Valkyries were compared to the Jupiter class, until you hear that they house only 3 Viper launch tubes per flight pod.
Can you do one in the Jupiter 2 from the lost in space tv series?
Will you do the galactica and Pegasus?
Stylish ship! With Valkyrie constructed at the beginning of the First Cylon War, does it appear in BSG: Deadlock?
No but fingers crossed for the next DLC pack.
Hope we get one in Deadlock.
I know you've already done two episodes for halo already but I would really like you to cover the Pillar of Autumn. I think it would be very intresting.