It is great to see Bear and Darton putting market pressure on Mathews, Hoyt, etc. I love the big company flagships, great bows, but the market space needs more balance. Let's hope Bear and Darton stay focused on high value offerings and don't slip only into high end offerings (mainly Darton as Bear is always likely to have midpoint bows) in the same way Falken offered great prices on the Wildpeak tire for the first 24 months and now they are priced the same as Toyo (best analogy I could come up with). Archery needs great bows between $500-750 or maybe $800ish in order to draw more folks into the market space.
Exactly. See my comment above. We would all drool over this year’s wonder $600 sight but c’mon man? I’m shooting bow and arrow in the backyard all by myself. I just want the gear to work reliably and I just want to relax shooting some arrows. Hats off to the middle market here and for covering some of it.
100%. Ultraview products are designed for less than 5% of archers. The big shops in my area don't carry UV due to the prices being out of touch with 95%+ of their customers. I just hope Darton does not try to go only high end, that they keep a decent mid point offering for years to come. It will force others to do the same. Lastly, success bowhunting in terms of harvest, is 90% the hunter and 10% the gear. I killed many elk with $350 dollars all in on bow, sight, rest, etc. @@rf6934
PJ Riley from Lancaster Archery has video of Consequence at 30", 60 lbs, with 350 grain arrow shooting 298fps through chronograph, here soon I'm getting new bow and Consequence is on my list of possible bows!!
I’m so brand new to this sport but it looks very interesting. I’m hoping to get a better understanding which should be my first bow that cost at least no more than $1500. I understand the concept of shooting a weapon since I was in the military, but I’ve never shot a compound bow.
I enjoyed the draw cycle of the Alaskan XT more than the new Bear Flagship. Fit and finish certainly isn't as good as the flagship, but there is a lot of value in that bow.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo I will agree 💯 on the bear flagship I shot 1 over the weekend and it’s not even on my list of bows I’d buy. I’m a lot like you the draw cycle means a lot to me with a bad shoulder. Ive actually went back to a single cam on account of that dang bad shoulder lol
@@ArcheryTalkVideo I’d love to try the sequel 33 in 50-60lb but sadly I’ve never even seen a Darton bow other then on the internet lol. Mathews Hoyt Elite Bowtech are all real common but not a Darton
Very good bows and could have easily been on this list. Found the draw a bit stiff, but the ones I was shooting were at 70 pounds. Most other bows were closer to 60.
In my limited shooting at the show, the Obsession bows felt good. I like that they have a new budget friendly bow (The Bone) and still offer it in all of their color ways.
So really all it takes to be accurate with a bow is just being able to hold its extremely steady in one spot - so if you hold a full draw and do it for long periods of time for a lot of reps than one should be extremely accurate ????
Thank you for not covering Hoyt or Mathews dream rigs in this list. So tired of all these You Tubers with their MEGA Bows, I get it, the newest super bow is cool, it’s dreamy, but we can’t all spend $1,500 to $2K on a new bow every year. I come home with a radical new Hoyt or Mathews or PSE or Bowtech… instant divorce. I have a great bow that is “premium entry level,” about $700-$750’ish. I intend to shoot it for a while and I like to hear about Entry Level and just past entry level bows - - thank you for covering this segment of the market. No disrespect to the other UA-camrs or the more premium bow manufacturers but that sort of gear sells itself: this is our new flagship bow and it does this one thing better, maybe two things better than last year. Ok, great thanks for letting us know. Long winded to say: thank you for keeping it modest, yeah you like the SR but it was great to hear you mention Bear Archery too.
Hey Lucas! Have you ever tried a gearhead bow? I’d like to see what you think with a bow you can really tinker with. Make 20-24 ATA bows which I really like for hunting situations and then they make 30+ ata for general use and TARGET archery. Just a suggestion from another fellow bow shooter. Thank you for all the info you produce
Ive shot a few Gearhead bows at the ATA Show in prior years, but they weren’t at the show this year. I reached out to them previously to see if they wanted me to test their bows, but they did not want to do that.
Compound bows look RIDICULOUS like an alien crossed with a clothes line. A True archer shoots Traditional with a stick & string. Not gadgets,sights & gizmos..what a joke
That's just closed minded. I get the allure of traditional archery, but technology is awesome too and a lot of people prefer that. All require skill and practice.
That Mach 30 DS is really catching my attention.
Really happy with how that one feels after the shot. And it's a great looking riser.
It is great to see Bear and Darton putting market pressure on Mathews, Hoyt, etc. I love the big company flagships, great bows, but the market space needs more balance. Let's hope Bear and Darton stay focused on high value offerings and don't slip only into high end offerings (mainly Darton as Bear is always likely to have midpoint bows) in the same way Falken offered great prices on the Wildpeak tire for the first 24 months and now they are priced the same as Toyo (best analogy I could come up with). Archery needs great bows between $500-750 or maybe $800ish in order to draw more folks into the market space.
Exactly. See my comment above. We would all drool over this year’s wonder $600 sight but c’mon man?
I’m shooting bow and arrow in the backyard all by myself. I just want the gear to work reliably and I just want to relax shooting some arrows.
Hats off to the middle market here and for covering some of it.
100%. Ultraview products are designed for less than 5% of archers. The big shops in my area don't carry UV due to the prices being out of touch with 95%+ of their customers. I just hope Darton does not try to go only high end, that they keep a decent mid point offering for years to come. It will force others to do the same. Lastly, success bowhunting in terms of harvest, is 90% the hunter and 10% the gear. I killed many elk with $350 dollars all in on bow, sight, rest, etc. @@rf6934
Darton and Athens needs more respect than they get.
It looks like Athens is going to loan me a bow for long-term testing this year. I've been trying to get my hands on one for a while now. Very excited.
Dartons shoot amazing!!!
Good to see bear on here. They make great bows at a price that's worth it.
Heck yeah brother! It was a super pleasure meeting you and talking Archery at the ATA!!!
The new Prime is the RVX, not to be confused with the Revex from last year.
Thanks for your take, trying to get into bow hunting so looking into my first bow
Many thanks. Going with the Alaskan XT.
Thanks for the value notes.
PJ Riley from Lancaster Archery has video of Consequence at 30", 60 lbs, with 350 grain arrow shooting 298fps through chronograph, here soon I'm getting new bow and Consequence is on my list of possible bows!!
I’m so brand new to this sport but it looks very interesting. I’m hoping to get a better understanding which should be my first bow that cost at least no more than $1500. I understand the concept of shooting a weapon since I was in the military, but I’ve never shot a compound bow.
Are you interested in a target bow or a bow for hunting?
What's your draw length, please? I ask for I am thinking about geting a Darton's Sequel 33, and my draw is 31 1/8". Thanks
Did u shoot an obsession? Are you going to be able to get one to test this year?
Mathew and Hoyt punching the air
The Darton is the "Sequel" not the "Sequence"
Looks like all solid bows. I’m kind of a bear fan and I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Alaskan xt on how quiet it is
I enjoyed the draw cycle of the Alaskan XT more than the new Bear Flagship. Fit and finish certainly isn't as good as the flagship, but there is a lot of value in that bow.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo I will agree 💯 on the bear flagship I shot 1 over the weekend and it’s not even on my list of bows I’d buy. I’m a lot like you the draw cycle means a lot to me with a bad shoulder. Ive actually went back to a single cam on account of that dang bad shoulder lol
@@justinlloyd9342 If there is a Darton dealer near you, try their new bows. I was very happy with how they felt at the show.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo I’d love to try the sequel 33 in 50-60lb but sadly I’ve never even seen a Darton bow other then on the internet lol. Mathews Hoyt Elite Bowtech are all real common but not a Darton
Am I first to comment
? Great review and I like how you added some budget bows
What did you think of the new Xpedition bows?
Very good bows and could have easily been on this list. Found the draw a bit stiff, but the ones I was shooting were at 70 pounds. Most other bows were closer to 60.
does someone know why the compound bow is called "compound"?
What do you think of the obsession bows ?????
In my limited shooting at the show, the Obsession bows felt good. I like that they have a new budget friendly bow (The Bone) and still offer it in all of their color ways.
Sequel… I think u added consequence and sequel to get sequence
It’s very possible. This was my 52nd video in three days and I was running on fumes.
Why isn't there a Mathews included?
They weren’t at the show.
Did you shoot an Athens?
Athens was not at the show. But I’m hoping to get one in.
So really all it takes to be accurate with a bow is just being able to hold its extremely steady in one spot - so if you hold a full draw and do it for long periods of time for a lot of reps than one should be extremely accurate ????
Thank you for not covering Hoyt or Mathews dream rigs in this list.
So tired of all these You Tubers with their MEGA Bows, I get it, the newest super bow is cool, it’s dreamy, but we can’t all spend $1,500 to $2K on a new bow every year.
I come home with a radical new Hoyt or Mathews or PSE or Bowtech… instant divorce.
I have a great bow that is “premium entry level,” about $700-$750’ish. I intend to shoot it for a while and I like to hear about Entry Level and just past entry level bows - - thank you for covering this segment of the market.
No disrespect to the other UA-camrs or the more premium bow manufacturers but that sort of gear sells itself: this is our new flagship bow and it does this one thing better, maybe two things better than last year. Ok, great thanks for letting us know.
Long winded to say: thank you for keeping it modest, yeah you like the SR but it was great to hear you mention Bear Archery too.
Hoyt and Mathews don't attend the ATA show anymore.
I agree!!
Prime screwed up doing away with the dual cam system
not bad
Hey Lucas! Have you ever tried a gearhead bow? I’d like to see what you think with a bow you can really tinker with. Make 20-24 ATA bows which I really like for hunting situations and then they make 30+ ata for general use and TARGET archery.
Just a suggestion from another fellow bow shooter.
Thank you for all the info you produce
Ive shot a few Gearhead bows at the ATA Show in prior years, but they weren’t at the show this year. I reached out to them previously to see if they wanted me to test their bows, but they did not want to do that.
Bowtech is really innovating in the "easy to tune yourself" technology sphere.
As they say a seat for all asses. That riser on the darton is hideous to me.
Compound bows look RIDICULOUS like an alien crossed with a clothes line. A True archer shoots Traditional with a stick & string. Not gadgets,sights & gizmos..what a joke
That's just closed minded. I get the allure of traditional archery, but technology is awesome too and a lot of people prefer that. All require skill and practice.
Cool story