Those are the original Huntress, Helena Wayne. She's was from Earth-2 and isn't considered a Justice League character. Helena Bertinelli is the post-crisis version who's a member of the Justice League and didn't appear in live action until her appearance on Arrow.
I wish my dad had been alive to see all the comic book characters from the 50's and 60's in movies now. As a man in my 50's who grew up with DC and Marvel comics (they were in almost every UK newsagents), I was blown away by the "circle" scene in Avengers Assemble, panning round all those formerly 2D heroes...
I was born in late December 1957, yes, I just had my 65th Birthday, we had 1 channel, Black and White, CBS. I was in my 60s before I ever saw Batman TV Show, the George Reeves Superman, and many shows of the 1960s. I now own them all in DVD. I am also trying to collect old Serials. I have several now, not yet Complete as I'm still missing the Shazam Captain Marvel and Kirk Alyn Superman. But I have managed to get the 2 Batman, Blackhawk, Captain America, the 3 Flash Gordon, and the Buck Rogers!
Hawk Woman, Aquaman, John Stewart and Black Lightning all live-action TV debuted in 1992, in the "Superman's Funeral" sketch on Saturday Night Live. I mean, if that 5 minute version of Wonder Woman counts then that should too.
Well done, this has helped a lot with a project I'm working on. Since you were mentioning pilot episodes, I just wanted to bring up that Justin Hartley before he was cast as Green Arrow on Smallville did an Aquaman Pilot. I remember reading that somewhere. Not sure if the footage ever saw the light of day.
The 2006 Aquaman pilot with Justin Hartley was released as a bonus DVD in a Smallville Season 1 re-release set. It was also a bonus feature on the Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths Blu Ray / DVD that came with the Justice League: Earth 2 hardcover graphic novel which also included the 1975 Lynda Carter Wonder Woman pilot episode.
Lordis in naomi has strong allusions to zatana. She has the purple hair like the modern versions, she pops up when needed. Is often searching for things runs her dad's business whom we never see, and is obsessed with the character's comic in universe(since alternate universes in naomi are a plot point this could allude to a different varient of the character in another universe i.e. jay garrick was a comic character in barry allens world leading to flash of two worlds) lordis would actually be called Zatanna as a cutsie codename when playing paintball and going on missons with the gang. Naomi's bestie also calls her out as a possible alien, which could be a call to zatannas mother being from another dimension. Plus we never find out what Lordis was hiding the night she was on Naomi's street. (My guess is a child...but hey it could be magical stuff)
I thought you were wrong about Gypsy but I had forgotten that they essentially replaced her in the Birds of Prey TV Show with the teenage version of Black Canary. An impressive bit of research. As a long-time DC Fan, I learned a few things.
Technically, Darkseid is a villain of the New Gods, but he was such a good villain that he ended up going against most of the DC universe. Also, the first appearance of Killer Frost is in Firestorm #3, in 1978, although I'm not sure if it's supposed to be the same character as the later Frost. I was also going to mention the Ray, but you covered the 2nd version of the Ray, Ray Terrill, and not the original Ray, Happy Terrill. So Happy Terrill hasn't (yet) appeared in live action?
since he’s being snarky with the character versions, that isn’t the same Killer Frost: the one from the show is the New 52 version so is only from 2011
Hey Black Lion! Congrats on this video, there were several characters where I smugly thought "haww haww, he's gonna forget dat one!" but you didn't. Props for using *Powerless* , too bad the show bombed so bad that we had to wait for the final episode to be released, in which Mr West played Chairman Dean West... One of his 2 posthumous releases with the animated movie *Batman vs Two-Face* Keep up the good work! You content hase been interesting since the beginning of your channel, but you used to have technical issues, mainly sounds-related; seems like you managed to streamline the whole thing:
In 1979's "Legends of the Superheroes," Hawkman is specifically mentioned as being from the planet Thanagar (in the scene where Pat Carroll appears as Hawkman's mother). That means it wasn't the original Hawkman, but the version that debuted in 1961 -- an 18 year gap.
Legends of the Superheroes was so bitter-sweet for me when it 1st aired; so awesome to finally get to see so many heroes live finally, especially with Adam West and Burt Ward validating it by reprising their roles. But the comedy of it (especially the second TV movie a year or so later) was so annoying to me and my buddies. At least if it'd been handled as well-balanced camp like the 60s Batman it would've still be really fun. So close and yet so far.
I know Helena Burtonelli is debatedly separate from Helena Wayne, but the latter debuted 10 years prior in the CW's Birds of Prey. Don't know if she was ever in the Justice League but I figured since you brought Huntress it was worth mentioning.
Helena Wayne premiered much earlier than that in that hero special in 1979 that this guy keeps putting in videos. Helena Bertinelli and Helena Wayne shouldn't even be debatable as separate characters, their origins are completely different and from what I remember a lot of their methodology is as well.
Huntress also debuted in the same special that BLack Canary did. In fact the video shows Black Canary and Huntress side by side with the old guy in red behind them
you forgot about Lobo. Lobo was also made his live-action appearance in Krypton season 2. Bat Man even had Lobo join the Justice League in Justice League vs Suicide Squad #6
You are actually incorrect on huntress’s Debut. She first appeared in 1979’s legends of the superheroes. She was also the main character in The birds of prey TV series
Zatanna Zatara, Batgirl Barbara Gordon, Mary Marvel, and also Firestorm deserves their own Live Action DC Comics Media Entertainment's Superhero TV Series Shows solely on their Characters alone about themselves!
At 21:20 you mentioned Swamp Thing. There was aSwamp Thing movie in 1982, a sequel in 1989, and a tv series that ran from ‘89-‘92. Great video, not trying to be picky.
I plan on getting the Shazam/Captain Marvel serials soon. I have the 2 Batman and the Blackhawk one. Then I go to the Complete George Reeves Superman TV Show.
About Blue Beetle. I have a recording of a 1941 radio series of Blue Beetle, voiced by Frank Lovejoy, (at least for the beginning of the series. Due to movie commitments, he was replaced). So, the character has a MUCH longer live action gap than the ten years mentioned. Blue Beetle as a comic book started in 1939.
I was just about to ask that! Didn't The Blue Beetle debut in comics in 1939, and in live action (on television) on The Electric Company in 1974, as portrayed by Jim Boyd? I don't think he is counting radio programs as "Live Action" though, because there have been other radio programs that predated film and TV appearances, such as the Superman radio program which debuted in 1940, and the Batman radio show which debuted in 1942.
That was the original Blue Beetle, Dan Garrett who was a part of Fox comics until they went out of business in the 50s. Eventually Charlton Comics got the rights and replaced the character with Ted Kord in the 80s. The original Beetle was never on any DC Superhero team, which is why the live action gap in the vid is what it is.
@@tonygazso9027 Oh, I see. Thank you for the clarification. So, you are saying the first Blue Beetle is Dan Garrett, the second Blue Beetle is Ted Cord, and the third Blue Beetle is Jamie Reiss, but it is the Dan Garrett Blue Beetle who was featured in live action in the children's TV show. I remember Spiderman from Marvel was also featured on the same show. I admit I have never read a Blue Beetle comic book and did not know these were different characters, but I did remember the Blue Beetle from that TV show when I was a child.
@anonyarena The Electric Company Blue Beetle played by Jim Boyd is unrelated to any comics version (Dan Garrett, Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes). Fun Fact: Jim Boyd voiced Spider-Man on the Spidey Super Stories record album produced by Peter Pan Records (taking over for Danny Seagren who played Spider-Man on the show but never spoke and communicated with thought balloons to get kids to read). Skip Hinnant voiced his Fargo North Decoder character from The Electric Company on the album as well and was the voice of Fritz The Cat in Fritz The Cat (1972) and The Nine Lives Of Fritz The Cat (1974).
Had to pause on Zatana. You stated SV was her only live action appearance, but she was in Arrow. She was the one that connected Olly and John. Someone else has probably mentioned this as the video is 3 weeks old. But oh well, now back to the awesome video.
To clear up about Black Canary: She originally was the Earth 2 Black Canary. When her Husband died, she left JSA to join the JLA. However, since time marches on and comic heroes don’t age: DC recognize that Black Canary would be in her 70s. So they made Black Canary as a legacy, from mother to daughter.
The Ray first appeared as Langford "Happy" Terrril in Smash comics # 14 in 1940 by Quality Comic Company The Ray was on cover of Smash Comics #25 in 1941 he continued in comic until 1943.
There was a 70's live action Aquaman movie. It was never released. Alamo Drafthouse shows entertaining videos before their movies. Before Justice League they showed clips from things including 70's DC toy commercials, an unlicensed 60's Philippino Batman movie and the Aquaman movie. It was hysterical. He used a starfish as a throwing star.
@@lukejones0826 I did some research and it turns out it was a student movie with a $10,000 budget that had DC's permission to be made. It's called Aquaman: The Cast of the Angler. It is on UA-cam. The intro is animated, but the "movie" is live action. The throwing star scene is at 15:25.
Aquaman: The Cast Of The Angler came out in 1984 and starred Gordon Goodman as Aquaman. I got a bootleg videotape of it at Jay & Silent Bob's Secret Stash before somebody complained that they were selling bootleg tapes and they had to stop selling them. I also got the 1991 Power Pack pilot, the 1997 Justice League Of America pilot with the 1967 Wonder Woman and Batgirl pilots and some episodes of Shazam! Curiously, The Aquaman tape said it was an unsold TV pilot but turned out to be a fan film.
Video Idea: Every Avengers Member who had appeared in Live Action, sort of like the Ultimate Avengers Team. If there were any who had multiple appearances, then you pick the best version to represent them.
@@TheBlackLion001 so make the Ultimate Marvel Universe. You still use a lot of MCU versions but at the same time add some of the X-Men from the 2 timelines and the Fantastic Four.
@@TheBlackLion001 technically members of the xmen and fantastic four, and other groups have been members of the avengers so could be people mentioned and have the debate about who is the best version to be a part of the ultimate avengers team.
would love to see the In Animation list or the live Marvel list an other idea, a look at people who didn't appear in any thing just live action or who wouldn't appear in there own video and would need to go in to some other video
I thought Maxima appeared on Superboy (remember that show? Goddess, I'm old!). It turns out the character was "Neila". Same powers, motivations, origins; but "Neila"!
A lady magician appeared in with the six million dollar man or wonder woman TV series, this would be a rough version of Zatana.....and Wondergirl appearing in Wonder Woman
If memory serves, the lady magician you speak of from The Six Million Dollar Man was not a magician, she was a high school student with ESP named Audrey Moss (played by Robbie Lee) who helped Steve Austin as his magician's assistant to read the bad guys minds. She appeared in a couple of SMDM episodes (The E.S.P. Spy and Hocus- Pocus) but she has no connection to Zatanna and DC Comics. The Wonder Girl on Wonder Woman (played by Debra Winger) is named Drusilla, not Donna Troy who was a member of the Teen Titans not the JLA and even if she wasn't, the Wonder Woman stories featuring her were set in the 1940s which would make this Wonder Woman and Wonder Girl members of the JSA.
he’s claiming that since it isn’t the 90s version it doesn’t count…yet he includes the 40s Earth 2 Hawkman in his talk about that character but never mentioned that the live action one is the Earth 1 version
The only Huntress that was a member of the League was the Helena Bertinelli version, who wasn't created until 1989, ten years after that TV special. The only Huntress that existed at that time was the Earth-2 version, Helena Wayne, who was a member of the JSA and for a time Infinity, Inc.
Great video, thanks. One correction in case nobody's pointed it out yet... The original Dr. Light was a recurring JLA villain since 1962, decades before he fought the Teen Titans for the first time so I'd say you've got that a bit backwards. He did wind up fighting the Titans but not until he'd finally given up on beating the JLA after many, many tries.
Love this video, though I'm a bit confused. I haven't kept up with all the more modern variants of characters or the more recent DC TV shows and movies, so maybe the histories I'm thinking of are now irrelevant but... 1. You got Fire's debut right, she started as Green Fury in the Super Friends comic and similarly Ice started as Icemaiden in the same title, but you listed her debut as being much later. Though I vaguely remember reading that the first Ice was killed and replaced by a different character, so maybe the debut you listed is the second Ice? Still, I thought the original might have been worth mentioning. 2. You pronounced Aquaman's wife's name as Mehruh. But the character was prominently featured in Filmation's animated Aquaman TV series, and I'm pretty sure it was always pronounced Meeruh there,. And writers and editors at DC were listed in the credits of the show so I always thought that was the correct pronunciation. 3. Cyborg was a founding member of the NEW Teen Titans, not the Teen Titans. The founding members of the original Teen Titans were Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, and Speedy (though Speedy's inclusion was a retcon). I always considered the New Teen Titans to be just a continuation of the original team. 4. Wasn't there a short lived Birds of Prey TV series which featured the Huntress before the Helena Bertinelli debut you listed? Or was that Huntress a different character? Maybe that was Helena Wayne? 5. You mention the original Hawkgirl's (Shiera Sanders Hall) original comics debut, but she was only related to the All-Star Squadron and JSA, not really the JLA. It was the Silver Age Hawkgirl/Hawkwoman (Shayera Hol/Shiera Hall) who had the first and longest affiliation with the JLA. Kendra Sanders has been a member of both the JSA and JLA, but she was a different character from the Golden Age version (though maybe she's reincarnated from the same character, but that's confusing since I thought the Golden Age character would have had to have been alive and active when Kendra was born). Or were all versions of the character merged into one in the Rebirth? 6. I've never heard Neron's name spoken out loud before now, but I always thought the name was based on Nero, the mad Roman emperor from history, and whenever I've heard his name spoken out loud on TV or movies, it's pronounced Neeroh, so I always thought Neron would be similarly pronounced Neeron, not Nirron. But I could be wrong. The similarly named Captain Nemo from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and the Extraordinary Gentlemen was always pronounced Neemoh out loud, not Nehmoh, so that's something else that led me to think Neron (and Mera for that matter) would be pronounced with a long E sound. 7. I would say the original Dr. Light is pretty much equally a JLA and Teen Titans villain because he was originally an exclusive JLA villain. He first attacked the Teen Titans only as a means of using them to get revenge on their mentors in the JLA. When they beat him, he transferred his desire for revenge to them. But he had such a long history of fighting the JLA before that, I think it pretty much evens out.
Yes with Hawkman and Stargirl , Sandman, Martian manhunter , and others called," The Justice Society Corp ," the Golden Age Superheroes comics 1950s and Smallville Superboy t.v. shows series.
1.5K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍 You're welcome! Thanks for the fun and informative, digital video recording! 🎬✌️🖖🙏🤓😎🤠 I subscribed! 🎊🎉 Notes: Hmm. 🤔. What are your qualifications again, for characters to be included in the video? Because you excluded so many characters.
Movies about The Green Archer 1925, The Bat 1926, Chandu the Magician on radio in 1930 and film 1932, Return of Chandu 1933, The Shadow 1930 on radio, Flash Gordon comic strip in 1934 which also had Hawkmen in 1935, and villain with ice gun in 1939 and Flash Gordon in serial film in 1936, Mandarke the comic strip in 1934 and serial film in 1939 which also had Lothar with powers of super strength, super speed and invulnerable all predate the Justice Society of America and Justice League of America.
you completely ignored Hunteess in the 1979 special…considering she was a huge property and reason for Black Canary being heavily used in the early 2000s it’s a major oversight
The Adventures of Captain Marvel movie serial is the only depiction of the Big Red Cheese that uses the name "Captain Marvel." After the debut of Marvel Comics, all "Captain Marvel" projects - and that is STILL his name! - must use the term Shazam!
I see. I thought you were referring to the character. You were referring to the title. The live-action 1970s television show WAS called Shazam! But Jackson Bostwick was "Captain Marvel" in that show.
@@james-russellgause4735 Yeah, no TV show can bear the name of "Captain Marvel" unless Marvel Comics is behind it. Only the serial, which predated when they first became Marvel Comics.
He was still called Captain Marvel for a while in DC Comics even though Marvel created Captain Mar-Vell in 1967. The first 14 issues of Shazam! had the tagline "The Original Captain Marvel" on the cover before they changed it to "The World's Mightiest Mortal" but they still called him Captain Mavel inside the comic pages. Freddy Freeman was still called Captain Marvel Jr. and Mary Batson was still called Mary Marvel on the inside, but on the covers they were called "The World's Mightiest Boy" and "The World's Mightiest Girl" or just "Junior" and " Mary" They also had Tall Billy, Fat Billy and Hill Billy also known as The Three Lieutenant Marvels who were also named Billy Batson and also had Captain Marvel's powers. Jackson Bostwick and John Davey were both credited as "Captain Marvel" on Shazam! Billy Batson, Mary Batson, Freddy Freeman and Uncle Dudley were called Captain Marvel, Mary Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr. and Uncle Marvel or The Marvel Family on The Kid Super Power Hour With Shazam! In 1981. DC was reprinting Captain Marvel stories from Fawcett Comics but had to switch the title to Shazam! to link it to the TV show but the Captain Marvel Jr., Mary Marvel, Marvel Family and Hoppy The Marvel Bunny logos were not changed. Tom Tyler played Captain Marvel in The Adventures Of Captain Marvel in 1941. Garrett Craig played Captain Marvel in the two Legends Of The Superheroes specials in 1979. Jackson Bostwick and John Davey played Captain Marvel from 1974 to 1977 (John Davey also played Cap in The Secrets Of Isis in 1975). John Valdetero played Captain Marvel in an episode of The Drew Carey Show in 2001. Captain Marvel has been voiced by Burr Middleton in The Kid Super Power Hour With Shazam! Rob and Chad Lowe on Young Justice And Jerry O'Connell on Justice League Unlimited There also was another Captain Marvel from another Comics company (Magazine Enterprises) who had the power to shoot his limbs off his body in 1966. The UK's Marvelman is also a rip-off of Captain Marvel who says the word "Kimota!" (Atomik spelled backwards) to change into Marvelman. His publishers were also forced to change his name to Miracleman and his sidekicks Young Marvelman, Kid Marvelman to Young Miracleman and Kid Miracleman because of Marvel's copyright which was not that strict in the 70s. Zachary Levi is the only one that they are trying to force everyone to call Shazam when that is the wizard's name that grants him his powers, even though the Billy Batson of the 70s (Michael Gray), actually calls him Captain Marvel in Fury Of The Gods. Captain Marvel was often referenced on M*A*S*H set in a time when he was owned by Fawcett Comics. And to make matters worse, they are presenting Carol Danvers (Brie Larsen) as Captain Mar-Vell who was originally the original Ms. Marvel while Captain Mar-Vell who was originally a male character who became trapped in The Negative Zone used to switch places with Rick Jones when they would slam the Nega Bands on their wrists together. Brie Larson isn't even the first actress to play Ms. Marvel (later Captain Marvel) either. An unknown actress first portrayed Ms. Marvel in a 1977 commercial for Six Flags Great Adventure. Fawcett Comics originally wanted to call him Captain Thunder. Maybe they should have went with that.
Great on you for including the late 70s TV stuff...proof that a lot of comic costumes just do NOT translate to live action!! But I thought Huntress was one of those...
Hey, I thought I’d just comment to say I really enjoy your videos on the channel and I had an idea for a video that I think would be pretty cool for you to make maybe have entire infinity saga of the MCU but restructure it with only Bat family characters
One character you forgot about was Plastic Man. He debuted in 1941, and appeared in live action in 1980, as part of live action intros and bumpers for the animated Plastic Man Comedy/Adventure Show. That’s a gap of 39 year gap. Also Connor Hawke debuted in 1994.
The show was called The Plastic Man Comedy Adventure Show in 1979 and became The Plastic Man / Baby Plas Super Comedy in 1980. Taylor Marks (Mark Taylor) played the live action Plastic Man.
I believe the Flash in the JLA pilot from 1997 is supposed to be Wally West, so that would be his live action debut and also that would free Wallace from the Flash as a separate character.
Actuall7, in the 70's Darkseid started out as a villain of The New Gods! He didn't become a Superman villain until the late 80's after Crisis on Infinite Earths. You also forgot the 1950's Superman George Reeves!
You forgot Mon-El who had a Recurring Role in the Second Season of Supergirl. And other Members of the Legion of Superheroes appeared in an episode of Smallville-Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad.
Well technically Captain Marvel appeared in wades comics number two in1939. Also, the blue devil is the original daredevil from the 40s, so that one’s wrong too.
There is one thing that kinda confuses me…. It’s Cyborg First he’s a member of the Teen Titans, Then switcho, changeo … He’s a member of the Justice League It’s probably two different Cyborgs from two different dimensions, or is it the same guy? Just something I noticed as I watched previews of the Justice League movie that came out it seems a million years ago….
Huntress appeared in Legends of the Superheroes and the Birds of Prey series well before appearing in the Arrowverse.
Those are the original Huntress, Helena Wayne. She's was from Earth-2 and isn't considered a Justice League character. Helena Bertinelli is the post-crisis version who's a member of the Justice League and didn't appear in live action until her appearance on Arrow.
@@TheBlackLion001 when will you review superman and lois season 2
@@TheBlackLion001 true
Thank you I was about texted the same thing 😂
What about bat woman
Imagine being a fan of a certain character from the comics during the 40s and waiting until you’re 80 years old to see them in live action
I wish my dad had been alive to see all the comic book characters from the 50's and 60's in movies now.
As a man in my 50's who grew up with DC and Marvel comics (they were in almost every UK newsagents), I was blown away by the "circle" scene in Avengers Assemble, panning round all those formerly 2D heroes...
I was born in late December 1957, yes, I just had my 65th Birthday, we had 1 channel, Black and White, CBS. I was in my 60s before I ever saw Batman TV Show, the George Reeves Superman, and many shows of the 1960s. I now own them all in DVD. I am also trying to collect old Serials. I have several now, not yet Complete as I'm still missing the Shazam Captain Marvel and Kirk Alyn Superman. But I have managed to get the 2 Batman, Blackhawk, Captain America, the 3 Flash Gordon, and the Buck Rogers!
Poor Elvis
@@bladestar2322 nice!! Keep it up and keep them alive!!
Hawk Woman, Aquaman, John Stewart and Black Lightning all live-action TV debuted in 1992, in the "Superman's Funeral" sketch on Saturday Night Live.
I mean, if that 5 minute version of Wonder Woman counts then that should too.
The JLA pilot was "fairly terrible"?
"Fairly"?
I still have flashbacks. I was traumatised 😱
(Hugging my knees as I sway) "That's not the Justice League, where's the Justice League, somebody call the Justice League..."
Well done, this has helped a lot with a project I'm working on. Since you were mentioning pilot episodes, I just wanted to bring up that Justin Hartley before he was cast as Green Arrow on Smallville did an Aquaman Pilot. I remember reading that somewhere. Not sure if the footage ever saw the light of day.
He has brought that up in a video before
The Aquaman pilot is available online.
The 2006 Aquaman pilot with Justin Hartley was released as a bonus DVD in a Smallville Season 1 re-release set.
It was also a bonus feature on the Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths Blu Ray / DVD that came with the Justice League: Earth 2 hardcover graphic novel which also included the 1975 Lynda Carter Wonder Woman pilot episode.
He's still Captain Marvel.
Lordis in naomi has strong allusions to zatana. She has the purple hair like the modern versions, she pops up when needed. Is often searching for things runs her dad's business whom we never see, and is obsessed with the character's comic in universe(since alternate universes in naomi are a plot point this could allude to a different varient of the character in another universe i.e. jay garrick was a comic character in barry allens world leading to flash of two worlds) lordis would actually be called Zatanna as a cutsie codename when playing paintball and going on missons with the gang. Naomi's bestie also calls her out as a possible alien, which could be a call to zatannas mother being from another dimension. Plus we never find out what Lordis was hiding the night she was on Naomi's street. (My guess is a child...but hey it could be magical stuff)
I thought you were wrong about Gypsy but I had forgotten that they essentially replaced her in the Birds of Prey TV Show with the teenage version of Black Canary.
An impressive bit of research. As a long-time DC Fan, I learned a few things.
Technically, Darkseid is a villain of the New Gods, but he was such a good villain that he ended up going against most of the DC universe. Also, the first appearance of Killer Frost is in Firestorm #3, in 1978, although I'm not sure if it's supposed to be the same character as the later Frost. I was also going to mention the Ray, but you covered the 2nd version of the Ray, Ray Terrill, and not the original Ray, Happy Terrill. So Happy Terrill hasn't (yet) appeared in live action?
since he’s being snarky with the character versions, that isn’t the same Killer Frost: the one from the show is the New 52 version so is only from 2011
Wow, Dr. Destiny is literally just Skeletor.
Good video, The Flash had a tv show in 1990, only 1 season, can find episodes on tubi
Love your videos. Thank you for the content. I know you work hard to make the videos.
Hey Black Lion! Congrats on this video, there were several characters where I smugly thought "haww haww, he's gonna forget dat one!" but you didn't.
Props for using *Powerless* , too bad the show bombed so bad that we had to wait for the final episode to be released, in which Mr West played Chairman Dean West...
One of his 2 posthumous releases with the animated movie *Batman vs Two-Face*
Keep up the good work!
You content hase been interesting since the beginning of your channel, but you used to have technical issues, mainly sounds-related; seems like you managed to streamline the whole thing:
In 1979's "Legends of the Superheroes," Hawkman is specifically mentioned as being from the planet Thanagar (in the scene where Pat Carroll appears as Hawkman's mother). That means it wasn't the original Hawkman, but the version that debuted in 1961 -- an 18 year gap.
Legends of the Superheroes was so bitter-sweet for me when it 1st aired; so awesome to finally get to see so many heroes live finally, especially with Adam West and Burt Ward validating it by reprising their roles. But the comedy of it (especially the second TV movie a year or so later) was so annoying to me and my buddies. At least if it'd been handled as well-balanced camp like the 60s Batman it would've still be really fun. So close and yet so far.
“There won’t be an Elongated Man video.”
We’ve been robbed.
I know Helena Burtonelli is debatedly separate from Helena Wayne, but the latter debuted 10 years prior in the CW's Birds of Prey. Don't know if she was ever in the Justice League but I figured since you brought Huntress it was worth mentioning.
Helena Wayne premiered much earlier than that in that hero special in 1979 that this guy keeps putting in videos. Helena Bertinelli and Helena Wayne shouldn't even be debatable as separate characters, their origins are completely different and from what I remember a lot of their methodology is as well.
Huntress also debuted in the same special that BLack Canary did. In fact the video shows Black Canary and Huntress side by side with the old guy in red behind them
you forgot about Lobo. Lobo was also made his live-action appearance in Krypton season 2. Bat Man even had Lobo join the Justice League in Justice League vs Suicide Squad #6
You are actually incorrect on huntress’s Debut. She first appeared in 1979’s legends of the superheroes. She was also the main character in The birds of prey TV series
Zatanna Zatara, Batgirl Barbara Gordon, Mary Marvel, and also Firestorm deserves their own Live Action DC Comics Media Entertainment's Superhero TV Series Shows solely on their Characters alone about themselves!
At 21:20 you mentioned Swamp Thing. There was aSwamp Thing movie in 1982, a sequel in 1989, and a tv series that ran from ‘89-‘92. Great video, not trying to be picky.
I plan on getting the Shazam/Captain Marvel serials soon. I have the 2 Batman and the Blackhawk one. Then I go to the Complete George Reeves Superman TV Show.
The 1979 JLA was hilarious, I really enjoyed it. 👍
About Blue Beetle. I have a recording of a 1941 radio series of Blue Beetle, voiced by Frank Lovejoy, (at least for the beginning of the series. Due to movie commitments, he was replaced). So, the character has a MUCH longer live action gap than the ten years mentioned. Blue Beetle as a comic book started in 1939.
I was just about to ask that! Didn't The Blue Beetle debut in comics in 1939, and in live action (on television) on The Electric Company in 1974, as portrayed by Jim Boyd? I don't think he is counting radio programs as "Live Action" though, because there have been other radio programs that predated film and TV appearances, such as the Superman radio program which debuted in 1940, and the Batman radio show which debuted in 1942.
That was the original Blue Beetle, Dan Garrett who was a part of Fox comics until they went out of business in the 50s. Eventually Charlton Comics got the rights and replaced the character with Ted Kord in the 80s. The original Beetle was never on any DC Superhero team, which is why the live action gap in the vid is what it is.
@@tonygazso9027 Oh, I see. Thank you for the clarification. So, you are saying the first Blue Beetle is Dan Garrett, the second Blue Beetle is Ted Cord, and the third Blue Beetle is Jamie Reiss, but it is the Dan Garrett Blue Beetle who was featured in live action in the children's TV show. I remember Spiderman from Marvel was also featured on the same show. I admit I have never read a Blue Beetle comic book and did not know these were different characters, but I did remember the Blue Beetle from that TV show when I was a child.
@anonyarena The Electric Company Blue Beetle played by Jim Boyd is unrelated to any comics version (Dan Garrett, Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes).
Fun Fact: Jim Boyd voiced Spider-Man on the Spidey Super Stories record album produced by Peter Pan Records (taking over for Danny Seagren who played Spider-Man on the show but never spoke and communicated with thought balloons to get kids to read).
Skip Hinnant voiced his Fargo North Decoder character from The Electric Company on the album as well and was the voice of Fritz The Cat in Fritz The Cat (1972) and The Nine Lives Of Fritz The Cat (1974).
That's Guy Gardner? He looks like Kyle Rayner.
Had to pause on Zatana. You stated SV was her only live action appearance, but she was in Arrow. She was the one that connected Olly and John.
Someone else has probably mentioned this as the video is 3 weeks old. But oh well, now back to the awesome video.
To clear up about Black Canary: She originally was the Earth 2 Black Canary.
When her Husband died, she left JSA to join the JLA. However, since time marches on and comic heroes don’t age: DC recognize that Black Canary would be in her 70s. So they made Black Canary as a legacy, from mother to daughter.
So many of these are just random comic book names the show writers looked up and randomly assigned to people who are nothing like the source material.
actually huntress first debuted in birds of prey; before the arrow episode
The Ray first appeared as Langford "Happy" Terrril in Smash comics # 14 in 1940 by Quality Comic Company The Ray was on cover of Smash Comics #25 in 1941 he continued in comic until 1943.
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14:20 last chance to look at me hector
I'm watching the 1941 Captain Marvel series now!
There was a 70's live action Aquaman movie. It was never released. Alamo Drafthouse shows entertaining videos before their movies. Before Justice League they showed clips from things including 70's DC toy commercials, an unlicensed 60's Philippino Batman movie and the Aquaman movie. It was hysterical. He used a starfish as a throwing star.
Is there any way I’d be able to find this movie somewhere?
@@lukejones0826 I did some research and it turns out it was a student movie with a $10,000 budget that had DC's permission to be made. It's called Aquaman: The Cast of the Angler. It is on UA-cam. The intro is animated, but the "movie" is live action. The throwing star scene is at 15:25.
@@davidthierry4179 sweet, thanks!
Aquaman: The Cast Of The Angler came out in 1984 and starred Gordon Goodman as Aquaman.
I got a bootleg videotape of it at Jay & Silent Bob's Secret Stash before somebody complained that they were selling bootleg tapes and they had to stop selling them.
I also got the 1991 Power Pack pilot, the 1997 Justice League Of America pilot with the 1967 Wonder Woman and Batgirl pilots and some episodes of Shazam!
Curiously, The Aquaman tape said it was an unsold TV pilot but turned out to be a fan film.
Actually, the Huntress made her live action appearance in Legends of the Superheroes and then again in the short lived Birds of Prey TV show.
That’s a different Huntress (Helena Wayne), not Helena Bertinelli
Great job man
What happened to 'Birds of Prey'? I thought Huntress appeared on that show first.
Video Idea: Every Avengers Member who had appeared in Live Action, sort of like the Ultimate Avengers Team. If there were any who had multiple appearances, then you pick the best version to represent them.
It would just be the MCU versions
Yeah, we already had the ultimate live action Avengers.
@@TheBlackLion001 so make the Ultimate Marvel Universe. You still use a lot of MCU versions but at the same time add some of the X-Men from the 2 timelines and the Fantastic Four.
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@@TheBlackLion001 technically members of the xmen and fantastic four, and other groups have been members of the avengers so could be people mentioned and have the debate about who is the best version to be a part of the ultimate avengers team.
Batman was multiple part serial films in 1943 had Batman, Robin and Alfred.
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would love to see the In Animation list or the live Marvel list
an other idea, a look at people who didn't appear in any thing just live action or who wouldn't appear in there own video and would need to go in to some other video
Video idea: Marvel if the CW had the rights to it, basically the Marvel equivalent of each show and crossover
I thought Maxima appeared on Superboy (remember that show? Goddess, I'm old!). It turns out the character was "Neila". Same powers, motivations, origins; but "Neila"!
A lady magician appeared in with the six million dollar man or wonder woman TV series, this would be a rough version of Zatana.....and Wondergirl appearing in Wonder Woman
If memory serves, the lady magician you speak of from The Six Million Dollar Man was not a magician, she was a high school student with ESP named Audrey Moss (played by Robbie Lee) who helped Steve Austin as his magician's assistant to read the bad guys minds.
She appeared in a couple of SMDM episodes (The E.S.P. Spy and Hocus- Pocus) but she has no connection to Zatanna and DC Comics.
The Wonder Girl on Wonder Woman (played by Debra Winger) is named Drusilla, not Donna Troy who was a member of the Teen Titans not the JLA and even if she wasn't, the Wonder Woman stories featuring her were set in the 1940s which would make this Wonder Woman and Wonder Girl members of the JSA.
Birds of prey was a movie about Helicopter pilots in 1973.
4:20 Isn't that the Huntress next to Black Canary? (which would have made her debut much earlier than stated)
he’s claiming that since it isn’t the 90s version it doesn’t count…yet he includes the 40s Earth 2 Hawkman in his talk about that character but never mentioned that the live action one is the Earth 1 version
The only Huntress that was a member of the League was the Helena Bertinelli version, who wasn't created until 1989, ten years after that TV special. The only Huntress that existed at that time was the Earth-2 version, Helena Wayne, who was a member of the JSA and for a time Infinity, Inc.
Great video, thanks. One correction in case nobody's pointed it out yet... The original Dr. Light was a recurring JLA villain since 1962, decades before he fought the Teen Titans for the first time so I'd say you've got that a bit backwards. He did wind up fighting the Titans but not until he'd finally given up on beating the JLA after many, many tries.
The huntress made her live action debut in the TV series, birds of prey
Legends Of The Superheroes (1979) played by Barbara Joyce.
Love this video, though I'm a bit confused. I haven't kept up with all the more modern variants of characters or the more recent DC TV shows and movies, so maybe the histories I'm thinking of are now irrelevant but...
1. You got Fire's debut right, she started as Green Fury in the Super Friends comic and similarly Ice started as Icemaiden in the same title, but you listed her debut as being much later. Though I vaguely remember reading that the first Ice was killed and replaced by a different character, so maybe the debut you listed is the second Ice? Still, I thought the original might have been worth mentioning.
2. You pronounced Aquaman's wife's name as Mehruh. But the character was prominently featured in Filmation's animated Aquaman TV series, and I'm pretty sure it was always pronounced Meeruh there,. And writers and editors at DC were listed in the credits of the show so I always thought that was the correct pronunciation.
3. Cyborg was a founding member of the NEW Teen Titans, not the Teen Titans. The founding members of the original Teen Titans were Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, and Speedy (though Speedy's inclusion was a retcon). I always considered the New Teen Titans to be just a continuation of the original team.
4. Wasn't there a short lived Birds of Prey TV series which featured the Huntress before the Helena Bertinelli debut you listed? Or was that Huntress a different character? Maybe that was Helena Wayne?
5. You mention the original Hawkgirl's (Shiera Sanders Hall) original comics debut, but she was only related to the All-Star Squadron and JSA, not really the JLA. It was the Silver Age Hawkgirl/Hawkwoman (Shayera Hol/Shiera Hall) who had the first and longest affiliation with the JLA. Kendra Sanders has been a member of both the JSA and JLA, but she was a different character from the Golden Age version (though maybe she's reincarnated from the same character, but that's confusing since I thought the Golden Age character would have had to have been alive and active when Kendra was born). Or were all versions of the character merged into one in the Rebirth?
6. I've never heard Neron's name spoken out loud before now, but I always thought the name was based on Nero, the mad Roman emperor from history, and whenever I've heard his name spoken out loud on TV or movies, it's pronounced Neeroh, so I always thought Neron would be similarly pronounced Neeron, not Nirron. But I could be wrong. The similarly named Captain Nemo from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and the Extraordinary Gentlemen was always pronounced Neemoh out loud, not Nehmoh, so that's something else that led me to think Neron (and Mera for that matter) would be pronounced with a long E sound.
7. I would say the original Dr. Light is pretty much equally a JLA and Teen Titans villain because he was originally an exclusive JLA villain. He first attacked the Teen Titans only as a means of using them to get revenge on their mentors in the JLA. When they beat him, he transferred his desire for revenge to them. But he had such a long history of fighting the JLA before that, I think it pretty much evens out.
Not including Doctor Fate? Wasn't he in Smallville?
Yes with Hawkman and Stargirl , Sandman, Martian manhunter , and others called," The Justice Society Corp ," the Golden Age Superheroes comics 1950s and Smallville Superboy t.v. shows series.
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Notes: Hmm. 🤔. What are your qualifications again, for characters to be included in the video? Because you excluded so many characters.
You forgot birds of pray with bat girl and the hunteress
You mentioned Legion of Doom being in the Super Friends if so what of Zan and Jaya the Wonder Twins appearing in Smallville.
Movies about The Green Archer 1925, The Bat 1926, Chandu the Magician on radio in 1930 and film 1932, Return of Chandu 1933, The Shadow 1930 on radio, Flash Gordon comic strip in 1934 which also had Hawkmen in 1935, and villain with ice gun in 1939 and Flash Gordon in serial film in 1936, Mandarke the comic strip in 1934 and serial film in 1939 which also had Lothar with powers of super strength, super speed and invulnerable all predate the Justice Society of America and Justice League of America.
you completely ignored Hunteess in the 1979 special…considering she was a huge property and reason for Black Canary being heavily used in the early 2000s it’s a major oversight
The Adventures of Captain Marvel movie serial is the only depiction of the Big Red Cheese that uses the name "Captain Marvel." After the debut of Marvel Comics, all "Captain Marvel" projects - and that is STILL his name! - must use the term Shazam!
I see. I thought you were referring to the character. You were referring to the title. The live-action 1970s television show WAS called Shazam! But Jackson Bostwick was "Captain Marvel" in that show.
@@james-russellgause4735 Yeah, no TV show can bear the name of "Captain Marvel" unless Marvel Comics is behind it. Only the serial, which predated when they first became Marvel Comics.
He was still called Captain Marvel for a while in DC Comics even though Marvel created Captain Mar-Vell in 1967.
The first 14 issues of Shazam! had the tagline "The Original Captain Marvel" on the cover before they changed it to "The World's Mightiest Mortal" but they still called him Captain Mavel inside the comic pages.
Freddy Freeman was still called Captain Marvel Jr. and Mary Batson was still called Mary Marvel on the inside, but on the covers they were called "The World's Mightiest Boy" and "The World's Mightiest Girl" or just "Junior" and " Mary"
They also had Tall Billy, Fat Billy and Hill Billy also known as The Three Lieutenant Marvels who were also named Billy Batson and also had Captain Marvel's powers.
Jackson Bostwick and John Davey were both credited as "Captain Marvel" on Shazam!
Billy Batson, Mary Batson, Freddy Freeman and Uncle Dudley were called Captain Marvel, Mary Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr. and Uncle Marvel or The Marvel Family on The Kid Super Power Hour With Shazam! In 1981.
DC was reprinting Captain Marvel stories from Fawcett Comics but had to switch the title to Shazam! to link it to the TV show but the Captain Marvel Jr., Mary Marvel, Marvel Family and Hoppy The Marvel Bunny logos were not changed.
Tom Tyler played Captain Marvel in The Adventures Of Captain Marvel in 1941.
Garrett Craig played Captain Marvel in the two Legends Of The Superheroes specials in 1979.
Jackson Bostwick and John Davey played Captain Marvel from 1974 to 1977
(John Davey also played Cap in The Secrets Of Isis in 1975).
John Valdetero played Captain Marvel in an episode of The Drew Carey Show in 2001.
Captain Marvel has been voiced by Burr Middleton in The Kid Super Power Hour With Shazam!
Rob and Chad Lowe on Young Justice
And Jerry O'Connell on Justice League Unlimited
There also was another Captain Marvel from another Comics company (Magazine Enterprises) who had the power to shoot his limbs off his body in 1966.
The UK's Marvelman is also a rip-off of Captain Marvel who says the word "Kimota!" (Atomik spelled backwards) to change into Marvelman.
His publishers were also forced to change his name to Miracleman and his sidekicks Young Marvelman, Kid Marvelman to Young Miracleman and Kid Miracleman because of Marvel's copyright which was not that strict in the 70s.
Zachary Levi is the only one that they are trying to force everyone to call Shazam when that is the wizard's name that grants him his powers, even though the Billy Batson of the 70s (Michael Gray), actually calls him Captain Marvel in Fury Of The Gods.
Captain Marvel was often referenced on M*A*S*H set in a time when he was owned by Fawcett Comics.
And to make matters worse, they are presenting Carol Danvers (Brie Larsen) as Captain Mar-Vell who was originally the original Ms. Marvel while Captain Mar-Vell who was originally a male character who became trapped in The Negative Zone used to switch places with Rick Jones when they would slam the Nega Bands on their wrists together.
Brie Larson isn't even the first actress to play Ms. Marvel (later Captain Marvel) either.
An unknown actress first portrayed Ms. Marvel in a 1977 commercial for Six Flags Great Adventure.
Fawcett Comics originally wanted to call him Captain Thunder.
Maybe they should have went with that.
I was very impressed with Dr Fate in the Black Adam movie.
Best Character in the film.
Too Bad they Killed Him Off Right Away.
@@okasathemasterninja5528 they did? did you watch the same film i did?
Yeah, Doctor Fate Died Fighting Sabbac.
@@okasathemasterninja5528 not early on.
Great on you for including the late 70s TV stuff...proof that a lot of comic costumes just do NOT translate to live action!! But I thought Huntress was one of those...
The Huntress in that special is Helena Wayne, from Earth-2, so that's JSA Huntress
Huntress debuted in 1979 in Legends of the Superheroes. You actually showed her in a picture. She was played by Barbara Joyce.
That’s a different Huntress (Helena Wayne), not Helena Bertinelli
just to let you know huntress debuted in legends of the superheroes
Charlton comics company had Blue Beetle in 1939. Although a different version of character.
That was Fox Publications. Charlton didn't begin publishing Blue Beetle stories until 1954.
Hey, I thought I’d just comment to say I really enjoy your videos on the channel and I had an idea for a video that I think would be pretty cool for you to make maybe have entire infinity saga of the MCU but restructure it with only Bat family characters
Are we sure it’s Guy from the Pilot? I read a few articles it was Kyle Rayner and even has his mask
How come you ignored the Batman AdAm West Burt Ward tv series of 1966?
I think Fire and Ice appeared in earlier Super friends comics as Green Flame and Ice Maiden.
Yes, they did.
Fire was also known as Green Fury and also appeared in live action in Powerless (2017) played by Natalie Morales.
One character you forgot about was Plastic Man. He debuted in 1941, and appeared in live action in 1980, as part of live action intros and bumpers for the animated Plastic Man Comedy/Adventure Show. That’s a gap of 39 year gap.
Also Connor Hawke debuted in 1994.
What about Plastic man? He is a decent history of JLA membership and had live action clips on some Saturday morning show.
The show was called The Plastic Man Comedy Adventure Show in 1979 and became The Plastic Man / Baby Plas Super Comedy in 1980.
Taylor Marks (Mark Taylor) played the live action Plastic Man.
If the Wonder Woman 5 minute concept/production counted shouldn't the earlier live action Aquaman pilot count?
I believe the Flash in the JLA pilot from 1997 is supposed to be Wally West, so that would be his live action debut and also that would free Wallace from the Flash as a separate character.
That was Barry Allen.
I loved smallville.
There was a Shazam! Tv series from the 1980s
It was actually from the 70's.
@@okasathemasterninja5528 my bad . Life goes on
I think you forgot Darkseid, a Superman/Justice League villain who made his live-action debut in 2021's "Zack Snyder's Justice League".
Actuall7, in the 70's Darkseid started out as a villain of The New Gods! He didn't become a Superman villain until the late 80's after Crisis on Infinite Earths. You also forgot the 1950's Superman George Reeves!
I just realized what if Diana Drake is a ancestor of Tim Drake.Just found that interesting.
Intriguing 🧐
Im actually sueprized neither jon stewart or metamorpho have been adapted as they have been strongly alluded to all over the place...
You forgot Mon-El who had a Recurring Role in the Second Season of Supergirl. And other Members of the Legion of Superheroes appeared in an episode of Smallville-Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad.
I would personally put them with there origin team of Legion of Super-Heroes (31st century) than JLA
Any chance youd be willing to do this in animated as well?
Aquaman in 2006 with Justin Hartley is one you forgot or didn't know about
What happened to the Spiderman character timeline video I didn’t get to watch it and it’s gone now
I had a bunch of inaccuracies that the comments pointed out so I deleted it.
@@TheBlackLion001 You gonna reupload it, once it's corrected ?
@@TheBlackLion001 when will you review superman and lois season 2
And you forgot about star girl
No JSA no Stargirl no members of that JLU from the future 🤔 o well great video anyways 👍
5:06 You show the 1978 Superman with the numbers "1984" in front of it!?!?!
Do Green Lantern Corp & Wonder Woman. I think there's enough characters there
I thought the dean cain character from smallville was immortal man.
When will you review superman and lois s2
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What's the deal with not making a live action TV show if Batman today
I don’t know but it goes way back. There hasn’t really been a ”proper” one since the 1960s.
@@Quirderph exactly my point
Well technically Captain Marvel appeared in wades comics number two in1939. Also, the blue devil is the original daredevil from the 40s, so that one’s wrong too.
I’ve saved this video. I need something to fall asleep to and this is maybe the most boring video about an interesting subject.
Mean
You left out The Spectre in the Arrowverse. It was a terrible way to handle the character, but present none-the-less.
The Spectre is much more so a JSA character.
@@TheBlackLion001 He was also in the JLA. I have an issue where he's a member.
Ryan choi is still the atom in the arrowverse according to the earth prime arrowverse tie in comicbooks
So Ryan Choi and Ray Palmer both exist in the arrow verse?
so, you forgot to mention the Human Target, not sure if he was ever in the JSA
It's been since 1967 that we have had a live action TV show of Batman. Why is that????
Where tf is stargirl homie, ain’t that DC and wasn’t she a justice league member??
There is one thing that kinda confuses me….
It’s Cyborg
First he’s a member of the Teen Titans,
Then switcho, changeo …
He’s a member of the Justice League
It’s probably two different Cyborgs from two different dimensions, or is it the same guy?
Just something I noticed as I watched previews of the Justice League movie that came out it seems a million years ago….
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Do the Avengers!
sorry wigged out at 5:45 with Fire's pic :)