In both this and the deleted scene the Engineer seemed willing to at least not murder them all just for waking him up. He even seemed to understand Shaw, the only one actually asking questions the Engineer might expect from his creations and want to answer. Then the walking scrotum starts asking for immortality and he decides he isn't dealing with this shit without coffee.
Your joke is funny. On a more serious note, I reckon the significance of the scene is that us, with our questions, are of no more significance to our creator than the the androids we build are to us. Remember David being asked to fetch the tea in the beginning?
What I love about this scene is how he listens to them and he seems to understand Shaw is asking genuine questions even if he doesn’t understand her yet. Even when Weyland asks for immortality he doesn’t dismiss it but genuinely questions why as if he’s hoping there’s a good reason for such a ignorant request. But when he finds out the humans are playing god and creating life too and desecrating the Engineers religion that’s when he becomes pissed
I don't think he understood Shaw, he tried to understand her, and made a puzzled face when he looked at her when she spoke, but his attitude was influenced by the fact that they hit Shaw in the stomach, and this, together with the request for immortality, made him angry, or at least made him convinced that humanity deserves destruction and that he should end the dialogue and kill them right away.
@@lavinder11 Yes but via deep wisdom and sacrifice, however humans wanted it all, stay foolish and become immortals in the same time, they didn't learn anything.
Appropriately like the ship is a living creature and you are walking inside its internal cavities. Like the spacesuit of the engineer, which is actually his own genetically modified body. The engineers despised synthetic life, it runs counter to everything they believe and its why he got so angry at seeing David.
One thing that’s very clear is that the Engineer was hugely annoyed by these beings from earth who awoke him from his preservation capsule and disrupted an enormously important project that they barely understood.
That's why he killed everyone, because he saw that humans were still a violent and hateful selfish greedy race, you cant have an intelligent race just roaming the cosmos with those traits. Its dangerous and detrimental. If people would just be nice to each other and others, and be a benevolent race, the "Engineer" wouldnt have killed them.
@@WeAreGhuraba Says the dude watching a clip of a fictional movie... Bro you got made to look like a fool and now you're trying to ake a garbage holier-than-thou excuse. Take the L, apologize and move on lmao this is just spineless
@@johngallagher9151 Yeah I made the choice a long time ago that if I for some stupid reason had the power to lift the human species to the stars or kill us, I would kill us. Save the other alien species we would kill and enslave the trouble of having to deal with us. If there aren’t any other alien species in our galaxy at the moment then we would damn well make it so there couldn’t be. We would pollute and destroy planets with reckless abandon and we would only possibly stop at the point where it would start harming us. It’s what we’re doing with this planet and it’s literally our only one. If we’re dumb enough to do this to our only planet imagine what we would do to others. Not to mention the fact nearly every human is a monster and they could do enough harm just themselves.
@@bloodisfrightening1203 I believe there was a time when humanity and other intelligent human "sub-species" like the Paracas skull species and Neanderthals and Denisovans were in touch with reality and had good intentions and weren't easily manipulated to hate, (i believe denisovans were actually humans with very long life spans up to 600+ years long) but that time was destroyed during the Younger Dryas comet impacts on the ice sheet and possibly other disasters before that. Unless people start showing that they know how to open their minds and the powers within and choose good over evil, i am completely with you.
All the comments are about how the deleted scene version is better or how he just needed some coffee first. But I’m just entertained by the little startup jingle that the Engineer computer plays.
Sure. Most of predator species on Earth have a simple rule: a sudden attack on a female, without provocation from her, is forbidden taboo. Maybe the engineers have the same rule.
@@PavelKOT11 That's pretty much how I was feeling. He saw that they attacked the weakest in their group, at which point he realized they are hostile creatures and it's not worth risking the engineers life to spend any more time with these humans whom not only woke him up but are the ones he was sent to exterminate.
@@XykuJoxa You are right about his feelings. I would have the same kind of feelings in his position. I would also feel some kind of anarchy/unstability in them: if within first two minutes talk with Engineer they have a conflict with violence inside their really small group (just 4 man and 1 android) then they are not only hostile to him (it would be logical), but much more worse: they are really nuts, crazy nasty nuts to themselves... But I would not agree on the idea that he was sent to exterminate humans. My objection: 1. sent by whom? If it would be their (Engineers) central government then the orders would be very simple: fly to Earth now and bomb it. Now. Not after some thousands years but now. As normal government usually command: start war now, destroy now, bomb now. There was no such a crazy government during human history with such a strange orders: wait for several years/centuries then destroy that state! It's stupid order - nobody can predict what will happens in one century or thousand years. 2. This Engineer has been sleeping in anabiosys then the shit with bio-weapon aboard his ship happened and killed the rest of the crew. It means that the situation was very sudden and some part of crew was away/sleeping. No war, no preparations for war, no general armed forces/strategical forces alarm, no warnings, no special awarnes on the base. Just normal day at usual strategical starship base, with unactive (maybe even conservated) spaceships with mass destruction bio-weapons onboard. 3. All spaceship trained combat pilots on these ships quite logically should knew all main races in Engineers star's systems vicinty: they should know all possible enemies/concurents (their planets/star systems are already in navigation computers of their spaceships). Just to be ready to start war (bomb the enemies planets) anytime/defend Engineers systems from attack. As well as novaday strategical missile military officers in all nuclear states knew all other nuclear states with nukes. The target's coordinates for all types of nuclear war (first strike, both side opposite simultaneous strikes, second retalliation strike) are already programmed and loaded into their nuke silo's computers. It will takes only one minute or less to load the target info into nuke missile warhead in case of sudden war and start the missile then. Imagine Chineese strategic missile forces officer in the silo. He opens his eyes and sees armed Americans in his bunker beside nuke silo. What he would do? Which state he would attack if he has codes for arming missile? Imagine him seeing armed Russians or Indians - same question... Reverse this question to Russian nuke silo situation or US nuke silo. It's all the same - their have targets lists for each nuclear state and they can load in into nuke warhead/missile in a minute. They are trained to do so. The only difference with the last Engineer on the old spaceship base that he has no connection with other spaceships (i.e. silos) nor with Engineers government (i.e. strategic command). Yet he is able to determined who broke into his spaceship and can (wrongly) evaluate / extrapolate the whole situation as if humans already destroyed all other spaceships and HQ and now came for him.
@@carloslennox I get you're probably trolling, but no. Weyland was concerned only with himself and his own life. Shaw was concerned for humanity as a whole.
I think the Engineers were trying to introduce the parasites to humanity and all living things in our World to wipe it clean and begin again, but that is just a hypothesis.
Just imagine: You're part of a race that created humanity hundreds of thousands of years ago. Then you and the rest of your race realize that humanity has gotten out of control and must be destroyed. So y'all prep for a mission into deep space, and you lay down in your hypersleep chamber to make the trip, expecting to wake up in-theater with the mission in full swing the next thing you know. Instead, you wake up to the dark powered-down bridge of the ship you were on, suddenly face-to-face with your failed dangerous creation which was stuck on a mudball light-years away the last time you checked. And now they're here, among your dangerous recombinant cargo, and one of them is speaking your language asking you to confer immortality upon an old frail member of your creation who himself has turned the creation of sentient life -- the defining accomplishment of your entire species -- into a crude obscene synthetic unfeeling mockery. You'd go apeshit and try to finish the mission with no second thoughts too. We all would.
Artificial intelligence always obedience to it's creator.. so make sure you ask the right questions.. and yes. Paying attention to people that supports and supposedly to be as team .. hmmm
Fun fact: The androids' names in the Alien films follow an alphabetical pattern: in Alien (1979) it's "Ash", in Aliens (1986) and Alien 3 (1992) it's "Bishop", in Alien: Resurrection (1997) it's "Call" and in this film it's "David".
What A HUGE Mistake it Was to Leave Out The Dialog Between David and The Engineer ... This Was An Important Part of the Movie !!!! HOW Could They Leave that OUT ???
Keeping the engineer mysterious and not talking was the way to go! I believe it should be clear that humanity is beneath them and not worth any conversations. 🤔
Having just watched it, the issue with the deleted version where the engineer speaks is that David doesn't translate Wayland's response to the Engineer's question of "why?". I think it was just a mistake they didn't consider when filming. It makes no sense for the engineer to have asked a question and then attack them without receiving an answer so it's probably better they just had him make his own mind up that he didn't like what he saw without the conversation.
This is what always bothered me about aliens and other life forms that are supposedly superior to humans yet they have zero aesthetically pleasing qualities that would aide in reproduction. And by that I mean that they all look the same without having some sort of hair at least. Like are we really supposed to believe grey aliens are all chilling in their home naked and bald?
The engineers look down upon the humans as inferior creatures due to their endless flaws like greed and selfishness. In the beginning of the film, it is implied only a sole engineer believed and put his trust on then primitive earth's potential, that is why he sacrificed himself by dying and spreading his DNA into the waters.
@@rdu239 I think it was more so the fact that Wayland was trying to become a god fundamentally. In the deleted scene the Engineer doesn't really become hostile until he realizes David is a cheap imitation of Biological life; and when Weyland proclaims himself an equal to the Engineer. My theory is that the Engineers split off as their reproductive capabilities became finite. Their civilization collapsed into fragmented cells, and that these Engineers we see in the movie are actually a rebel cell who sees themselves as Gods instead of Creators.
@@kamieaston3016 The Canon Story or at least what the Script says which never made it into the movies is, that the engineers tried to create life on many planets but only earth was a success. They tried to Guide us, even took one of us to their Home world and teached him their ways (they are talking about Jesus) but we killed him, rejected their believes and therefore in their eyes we were unworthy. This is all Part of a conversation that was never filmed. The goo is a mass destruction weapon that kills all life but keeps the plants and atmosphere intact. You can see the result in the second movie. My specualtion is, since earth is the only planet that worked, they wanted to get rid of humans and start over again or live there By themself. No one knows what went wrong but its Most likly that an accident is the reason why they didnt finished their Job. Its also specualtion but since the engineer was alive but didnt continue His Journey could mean that He was already infected with the goo and was hoping for His own kind to come and get the Alien out of him. So the big face hugger may impregnated and killed him but He probably was already done for. In the second movie we see David Killing all engineers but everyone coming to greet the ship is part of a Welcome ceremony so there are still ships and outposts out there and you can be sure they wont be happy seeing everyone dead. So they are not extinct but defnitly not in a position to go to war with humanity anymore. David didnt do this to safe humanity. He is an android that actually felt Superior to humans and was able to feel one emotion and that is hatred. He hates Humans and he kills the woman at the End of their travel to the Home world because He wanted to use her body for Experiments. But He Not only hates humans. He wanted to Proof himself to be a Superior being so He decided Not only to kill the woman after arrival to show is Superiority over humanity but By Killing their creators too. And then He kinda wanted to be a creator himself By breeding aliens. So David is just pure evil. That is all information from the Script. There was supposed to come a third movie but they canceled it. In the third movie they probably would have shown that the engineers are Not extinct and explained everything in detail but since someone released the Scripts it seems like they abandoned the movie because there wasnt much to discover anymore. Its also a false and never confirmed rumour that the engineers lost their ability to reproduce. Its made up by fans and not true but is spread all around the Internet with no source to canon Material. Its like conspiracy theorist claiming their facts to be true By point at each other as source while not giving any evidance at all.
The engineers are descendants of the Space Jockeys. Perhaps their species were at war with one another and they wounded up surpassing the Space Jockeys. When they saw that their own creation had begun creating he feared that humanity would do the same to them as they did to the Space Jockeys in an ancient war thousands of years ago. Alas David ends up destroying the remaining Engineers or other descendants. This is also in line with the theory that David isn't original. He can only copy without truly creating. He wanted to follow in the footsteps of the Engineers. If the Engineers killed the Space Jockeys then he's definitely following their footsteps. But the xenomorph is not his original creation. Because he cannot create, he can only recreate what has already existed.
The Engineers created life on many planets. One of the planets evolved into humanoids that became very advanced. The humanoids of that planet were extremely dangerous and eventually became aware of their creators similar to the people on Earth. Instead of desiring to meet and learn about their creators as Dr Shaw did, the beings of that world were driven to destroy and conquer. When these humanoids travelled to the Engineers home world a war broke out. The humanoids were actually the ones who had created the bio weapon that we see the on the Engineers ship later in the movie. The Engineers were driven from their home planet because they were overrun when the humanoids released the bio weapon on their homeworld. The Engineers who were not wiped out were able to regroup on another world and managed to fight off the humanoids that they had created millions of years ago. The Engineers studied the bio weapon and reproduced it with the intention of visiting every planet they had formed life on and release it in order to kill everything they had created. They knew what their own creations were capable of becoming through unpredictable evolution and couldn't allow such a thing to happen again, so they sent ships carrying the weapon to every world that they had formed life on with the intent to destroy everything. The Engineers in the movie who were headed for earth lost control of the bio weapon in their cargo and it killed most of the crew, except for the lone Engineer who was in cryo sleep. That's why he killed David and everyone who woke him up. To him they were all a threat that had to be wiped out.
Not a very bright engineer. Without extra information to what has happened he resides to violent behavior. Maybe the engineers lacked the real intelligence to handle human interaction.
@@michaelg8193 "engineer" is what the people in the film dubbed him as. for all we know it could just be your average sergeant with the IQ of 50 and some muscles lol.
@@michaelg8193 Bruh they woke him up and that lady doctor got in her feelings and started demanding answers immediately....that's not how you approach a superior species.
This film got a lot of negative reviews but i watched it again recently on Bluray. The world is so well crafted and so well put together. The CGi is top class even though 10 years old. It felt like an escape to go back and watch this. So immersive. I prefered this to Covenant. Just my opinion. I think its more cerebral but fans just wanted blood and gore so it didnt do so well? Or is it just me? Anyway, great to see this again.
Covenant was a huge mistake. This film actually brought the franchise back in an interesting way. Covenant just took what prometheus was trying to do, and turned it into something so much less interesting.
Scott focused on the wrong criticism when he thought out Covenant. Instead of "where are the Xenomorphs?!?" he should've focused on not making his characters brain dead. Honestly, if this latter thing wasn't there, Prometheus would've been a very good movie considering the rest of its elements are well done. Instead, Covenant brings us slightly less dumb characters [they still act reckless, but at least there's some plausible deniability for their actions] but with more action that is so-so, and a rambling about the dangers of AI which have been way better covered in other movies. Half an hour of Blade Runner [both his or Villeneuve's] offers tenfold nuance and substance to the theme than Covenant manages with David's antics. At least Fassbender is a phenomenal actor, but still.
@@johnnyg1237 Weren't they supposed to weaponize the Xenomorph species to invade other planets, and create other life forms? They're responsible for their creation David just helped to evolutionize them. Pick up where they left off.
Imagine going into stasis for what thousands maybe millions of years? Then being woken by your own creation that starts making demands while displaying extreme violence to their own kind. It's no wonder he wanted to kill them all.
It was some couple thousand years give or take. The reason the engineers were going to kill off the humans was because of the way they treated Jesus Christ. Jesus was an "alien" sent by the Engineers to see if he could steer humanity away from violence. When they crucified him the Engineers were like "ok nah we have to kill them all off they're too far gone, it was a failed experiment." So that's why he was on his way to earth to destroy us.
So being woken up by the very creations he was going to destroy and not only that he knew they shouldn't have been able to show up on his ship in a complete different planet definitely pissed him off a lot more lmao
A rifle butt to the abdomen is certainly violence. But "extreme" violence? Compared to what? Ripping off the head of someone who made no threatening moves?
@@Darth1Marik He is so morally opposed to unprovoked violence that he commits it himself? This movie was so dumb. In any case, what violence WERE you talking about?
Engineer didn't want to kill humans immediately he tried to listen at first. But he saw destructive nature in human 3:40 also saw trying to overcome god(Greed) So he tried to finish his job he was meant to do.
yeah, because giving themselves the right to create life and then destroyed it isn't at all wanna-be gods. Also, so far only one of them asked for immortality out of four peoples and that's enough to judge a entire specie?
@@efaristi9737 Engineers have created hundreds, if not thousands of civilizations across the universe. If a species was a failure they could easily destroy it and start a new one. You think they give a shit about humans? Also you are forgetting the fact that engineers observed humans for millions of years and saw that they never changed. They were still the same war freaks and selfish beings even when they became space faring. Not only was he ticked off by Weyland’s blasphemy but also from Shaws yelling and violence from the bodyguard.
@@aurora5422 well, the fact they don't give a shit confort me in my judgement that they don't deserve the right to create. Millions of years? are you aware that our specie, our modern specie is actually only a few tens of thousands of years old? And that thoses before them were little more than animals? the first civilisations are actually very recent in regard of the story of our evolution and yet we're already deemed unworthy to live? Are you a war freak? are you selfish? are your family and neighboring selfish war freak? i know no one in my family that would take joy in a war or would ever want to start one. The wars and such were actually started by a minority. The majority of humanity might be guilty of following but not of wanting. I have yet to see how it goes on other planets fauna but if you just look at ours, you'll see that conflict is for every species, not just our own. Our intelligence is what make it worse but we are not more cruels than any creatures.
not that unpopular i think. as a stand-alone movie, it explores some interesting questions and had the potantial for an interesting storyline about the act of creation and understanding. its essentially a story about understanding. as an alien-prequel, however, it sucks major ass. the xenomorph represents the complete opposite of creation and understanding. it represents the unknowable, and the dangers of deep space. its a movie about NOT understanding, about leaving something be, bc its so far removed from us and our understanding of biology. you dont understand where it comes from, how its body works, or how smart it really is. you just keep away from it.
I think one of the engineers disagreed to destroy humanity and acted to stop them from leaving to earth but the plan intentionally or unintentionally wounded up killing all the engineers.
I doubt this. Engineers have been creating and destroying their civilizations for billions of years so they are essentially accustomed to it. Engineers were also extra-pissed off at humans because not only did we go to war and commit heinous acts but we also killed their messenger. If there were a species that they would have second thoughts about destroying it definitely won’t be the humans.
@Abdo Abdo it was a sabotage actually, that's how the black liquid breached containment and they started getting infected. Do you think that the engineers who are literally hyperadvanced and intelligent species didn't have any quarantine and containment protocols in case something like that happened? No, someone organised it and messed them up
I think they saw a drag queen and decided they didn't want to exist in this miserable reality. Took the easy way out. If only we could all be so lucky.
You guys didn't see the plot? The black liquid was to kill the humans and the Engineers are doing so because human strayed from the path of peace, they all have Aliens within them which is why they went into hypersleep, they didn't get "infected" they are hosts to the aliens that end up turning that last human girl into a xenomorph queen when everyone else dies including the engineer, the signal was for his people to come perform surgery on him to get the alien out of his chest.
I know the "Jesus subplot" that would have been revealed at the end of the movie since its established the "reality altering goo" that was either designed or discovered by the engineers didnt test well which is why in the final version of the film it was just never mentioned. Honestly, it makes it seem in context that "Jesus" wasnt so much crucified by the ruling elite to set an example for establishing a new religion without their approval and more so the "humans" that were apparently made from this goo attacked their "creator" because they "didnt look the same" So there is this weird grey area where this movie wants to be "Pro Atheist" believing how all religious figures are actually aliens of a higher plane of existence but also "Pro Eugenics" since the Engineers considers humans "a failed experiment and a massive waste of time" and the humans consider the Engineers xeno abominations despite being made by them. Like the Engineers are now somehow morally obligated to reveal the secrets of all their otherworldly technology and life extension techniques because "were from the same genetic family tree" Either way it was stupid for Weyland to come here.
I think that this film is severely underrated. It's a movie that poses a bunch of questions that it doesn't answer, and I totally get that this can be frustrating, but I personally found the questions (and what little resemblance to an answer we do get) fascinating. This is basically a story that says "why are we here, why did you create us, why did you turn on us, what is this all for", which are questions that humanity cannot simply have answered for them in a way that they can possibly understand. It's like an ant trying to figure out what a computer is and how it works. It simply doesn't have the capacity to grasp the profundity of what is greater than itself, and that's why I ultimately love this movie. The response of the Engineer is basically "how dare you be so audacious as to wake me - your very creator - from slumber to demand anything of me".
Okay so hear this, there is the spirit realm called brahma loka, which is all conciousnesses of the universe, it is almighty God. There is heaven and there is hell. And after you die you go there. Heaven and hell have multiple dimensions and in the deepest layers of both you find conciousnesses of planets and random souls from the universes energy. The universe comes from creation energy (krishna) this is God's magical energy, we are a physical Incarnation of creation energy. There are supernatural people and objects. 7 chakras and khndalini 3rd eye, psykick people and plants and planets. Objects connected (pieces of eden) are connected to angels and demons, look at 7 rishis and manu, and mahabarata weapons. These objects are like Aladins lamp connected to genies ( angels or demons). All major wars are fought for these. This engineer represents an angel, and the black goo jinn(demons), him and God may be pissed off as humans are horrible and psychopathic or abuse the angels and try to destroy them. So this angel might destroy.
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First time i watched this movie i was on mushroons, i never forget how this entire movie make sense to me.
I knew it would happen. The Engineer looked creepy - the chalk-white skinned, black-eyed humanoid is an old horror cliche by now. Hellraiser, the Ring. etc. Especially once he put his hand on David's head like a caress I knew David was doomed.
They really should've left in the deleted conversation. Here you only get to see the Engineer going ballistic after one question. In the other version, you see him slowly realizing that humanity doesn't seem to have progressed and in fact may be even worse than they were before he went to sleep. His decision to kill them isn't made instantly and you can see it building up.
He had no idea that David was an android. He was going to full on rip a mans head off and beat another man with it. He probably thinks they all look like that inside.
@@dl30wpb it has good graphics, creatures and actors. Maybe it's not that revolutionary, but I wouldn't call it a "shit film". I've seen shit films and they are totally not like this 😂
@@dl30wpb In fact I've said that it's not that good from a storywise point of view, but I think it remains an enjoyable film even years after and it is not considerable shit. I've seen many shit films at cinema and they are a literal mess everywhere, from graphics and special effects to characters and actors and recitation. This is just an average enjoyable film, I would not consider it crap.
The other version that has the Engineer speak is much better... it explains why he went ahead in ripping David’s head off and go on a murderous killing spree on them... this version seems to portray the Engineer as a mindless, homicidal manic.
Agreed. The deleted scene definitely gave the story a bit more meaning. That said, since the story is about a group of archeologists who only get to travel to another planet because some old coot who thinks he's 'deserving' because he's worth billions on earth wants to walk up to an alien he's never met before and knows nothing about and ask him to make him immortal 'just because', it does little to help in the end.
@@pizzaparker1651 well if you could do the same u would but u can't, now I'm not talking about the asking aliens I'm talking of getting worthy of earning billions
@@sayandeeppoddar7324 Immortality is a curse that leads to stagnation, anyone who wants it has never thought about it any deeper than, "I can live forever"
I love that the humans just wake up and alien and immediately dump all this heavy sh*t on him, start demanding favors from him, and act surprise when he loses it. Actually very realistic lol
The damage done to him via degredation was already done, and there's no guarantee his company would still be around in the hundreds of thousands of years that could pass before we learned to do that. Meeting a god-like species like the Engineers was his best bet.
@@CaptainFlowers you’re telling me they can make intergalactic spacecrafts and sentient humanoid robots but they can’t upload weylands consciousness in another body or system?
@@blackksabbath Well, yes, creating robots would be completely much less complex than creating a robot **and** uploading some form of sentient mind into it - In that case, it would merely be a copy of Weyland, not Weyland itself. He would still die.
The Engineer's eyes scream: And you really fucking kidding me right now? He looks almost timid around the humans, the only person he seems to acknowledge is Shaw, which I mean she was asking questions important to his mission so maybe thats why?
@@keyweststeve3509 ya true. I mean, that was the point of the translator. So from the aliens perspective, when she talks, it’s just someone waving the hands around and getting upset.
I view this from the Star Fleet perspective, and a lesson on how NOT to do a First Contact situation. When the Engineer went into stasis the English language didn't yet exist, but he could certainly understand body language. Ignoring the school of thought that states that the Engineer was carrying an embryo and was expecting his people to arrive and remove it, he became angry because Weyland demanded that his life be extended as a reward for creating a synthetic person. The alternate ending to this scene has the Engineer, with a disgusted look on his face, re-entering the hypersleep chamber, lying down, and reactivating it. Everyone looks around, and someone says "Now what?"
maybe the Engineer was in stasis because he's also infected. just before this scene is the trilobite scene where they mention putting Shaw in stasis to slow it's growth. perhaps the Engineer was on ice, awaiting a rescue & by waking him the humans have endangered his life. it's weird that the Engineer is first fascinated by David. but then the Engineer realises David is artificial & destroys him. if Engineers use organic machines themselves u wouldn't think they would mind androids too much...but they obviously consider them an abomination
What David8 really said to the Engineer 3:49 "These people are morons. You should have seen how bad they've screwed up in this movie. A bunch of them are already dead. And we just got here. This idiot here thinks of me as his 'son'. He's got a daughter he treats like an employee. I'm a fraking robot, for Christ's sake. He wants you to show him how to 'live forever'. Jeez. You and I both know that ain't gonna happen. Man, there are days I wish someone would just take my head and beat him with it." The Engineer turns and looks at Weyland for a moment then turns back and puts his hand on David's head...
I like how the engineer isn't super pissed at the start, just extremely confused. It's got the same energy of waking up your mom in the middle of the night when you puked as a kid.
What I don't understand is why nobody considers that: The Engineers were created just like David - by their creators - - - The alien beings - - - which also explains why the Engineers appear so perfect, just like David appears perfect. And , The Aliens , hibernate as seeds in the containers. Maybe they wanted to survive the sinking of their planet. The brief to the engineers was simply to create a race that would then be available as a compatible resurrection host for the survival, or host body, to be used for the survival and resurrection of their own race. Just think how incredibly intelligent the alien is already acting shortly after birth. Whole armies are defeated by a single, newly born, tactically incredibly clever, newly born alien. Isn't it ???
I can't believe they removed the dialog, and edited the engineer's voice to look like some ogre monster. How the heck someone thought that was a good idea.
Just now noticing the look of intense concern the Engineer has when they attack Shaw at 3:43. The Engineer seemed to not be hostile until that moment, when he saw how violent Weyland and his men were
@@johns8249 Alien Covenant, i personally thought there wasn't enough time spent with the Engineers and i would've done the origins of the Xenomorph very differently!
She speculated how Holloway could got infected from airborne but when David confirmed her it isn't then I think she perhaps thought even for a little bit if David had something to do with Holloway's infection. Funny thing 10 years later Covenant crew got infected from air spores just like she thought.
I really really love Prometheus. I will never u der stand why it got such a bad wrap. What I would love most is a movie about the Engineers, their origin, their history.
Irony that Engineer's planet was wiped out by their own creation, David basically is the Engineer's Creation's Creation and he brought the Black Goo back to their planet to exterminate them, which is also a weapon they created.
The race you see David wipe out are not engineers since they look more like humans than engineers; they lack pale skin and the dark eyes engineers have, so they are likely another creation of the engineers. For whatever reason they dont give you a good look at them in the film and they made them all bald
In both this and the deleted scene the Engineer seemed willing to at least not murder them all just for waking him up. He even seemed to understand Shaw, the only one actually asking questions the Engineer might expect from his creations and want to answer.
Then the walking scrotum starts asking for immortality and he decides he isn't dealing with this shit without coffee.
you made me laugh much thanks
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Thats the way I saw it too.
You had me in the first half not gonna lie
Your joke is funny. On a more serious note, I reckon the significance of the scene is that us, with our questions, are of no more significance to our creator than the the androids we build are to us. Remember David being asked to fetch the tea in the beginning?
What I love about this scene is how he listens to them and he seems to understand Shaw is asking genuine questions even if he doesn’t understand her yet. Even when Weyland asks for immortality he doesn’t dismiss it but genuinely questions why as if he’s hoping there’s a good reason for such a ignorant request. But when he finds out the humans are playing god and creating life too and desecrating the Engineers religion that’s when he becomes pissed
A king has his reign. Then he dies. Father.
I don't think he understood Shaw, he tried to understand her, and made a puzzled face when he looked at her when she spoke, but his attitude was influenced by the fact that they hit Shaw in the stomach, and this, together with the request for immortality, made him angry, or at least made him convinced that humanity deserves destruction and that he should end the dialogue and kill them right away.
Bur the engineers played God as well
@@lavinder11 Yes but via deep wisdom and sacrifice, however humans wanted it all, stay foolish and become immortals in the same time, they didn't learn anything.
@@atlaskaiser9951aún así es entendible el desprecio que tiene David hacia ellos pues cometían genocidio
I can't get over the architecture. Anything Giger is just stunning.
Appropriately like the ship is a living creature and you are walking inside its internal cavities. Like the spacesuit of the engineer, which is actually his own genetically modified body. The engineers despised synthetic life, it runs counter to everything they believe and its why he got so angry at seeing David.
If you like Giger should check out the game "Scorn"
One thing that’s very clear is that the Engineer was hugely annoyed by these beings from earth who awoke him from his preservation capsule and disrupted an enormously important project that they barely understood.
Absolutely
Quite pissed
YES. YES HE WAS
His servants not even bringing him coffee... I'd be pissed off too!
@@shanedpain7734 😂
It's hard to believe that Prometheus is a decade old now. Wow! Time flies.
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That’s normal once you’re an adult
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Please stop making me feel old
you will be dying in say... maybe 20 more years.
Alien : waking up after 2000 years and just seeing ;
Old guy : make me immortal 💀
Woman: screaming " why' 😖
That's why he killed everyone, because he saw that humans were still a violent and hateful selfish greedy race, you cant have an intelligent race just roaming the cosmos with those traits. Its dangerous and detrimental. If people would just be nice to each other and others, and be a benevolent race, the "Engineer" wouldnt have killed them.
@@WeAreGhuraba everything I said is from the lore of Ridley Scott... you can enjoy what it is like to make yourself look stupid, now
@@WeAreGhuraba Says the dude watching a clip of a fictional movie... Bro you got made to look like a fool and now you're trying to ake a garbage holier-than-thou excuse. Take the L, apologize and move on lmao this is just spineless
@@johngallagher9151 Yeah I made the choice a long time ago that if I for some stupid reason had the power to lift the human species to the stars or kill us, I would kill us. Save the other alien species we would kill and enslave the trouble of having to deal with us. If there aren’t any other alien species in our galaxy at the moment then we would damn well make it so there couldn’t be. We would pollute and destroy planets with reckless abandon and we would only possibly stop at the point where it would start harming us. It’s what we’re doing with this planet and it’s literally our only one. If we’re dumb enough to do this to our only planet imagine what we would do to others. Not to mention the fact nearly every human is a monster and they could do enough harm just themselves.
@@bloodisfrightening1203 I believe there was a time when humanity and other intelligent human "sub-species" like the Paracas skull species and Neanderthals and Denisovans were in touch with reality and had good intentions and weren't easily manipulated to hate, (i believe denisovans were actually humans with very long life spans up to 600+ years long) but that time was destroyed during the Younger Dryas comet impacts on the ice sheet and possibly other disasters before that. Unless people start showing that they know how to open their minds and the powers within and choose good over evil, i am completely with you.
All the comments are about how the deleted scene version is better or how he just needed some coffee first. But I’m just entertained by the little startup jingle that the Engineer computer plays.
I think that is David using some flutelike interface to turn on the computer. You see him putting it down afterwards.
@@peterpocaji5754 Oh dang, you're right. Interesting.
So either way 'sound' plays an important part of the universe beyond just humanity.
He got nervous because they were using violence to quiet the redhead. He understood that the leadership was weak and unprincipled.
Sure. Most of predator species on Earth have a simple rule: a sudden attack on a female, without provocation from her, is forbidden taboo. Maybe the engineers have the same rule.
@@PavelKOT11 That's pretty much how I was feeling. He saw that they attacked the weakest in their group, at which point he realized they are hostile creatures and it's not worth risking the engineers life to spend any more time with these humans whom not only woke him up but are the ones he was sent to exterminate.
@@XykuJoxa You are right about his feelings. I would have the same kind of feelings in his position. I would also feel some kind of anarchy/unstability in them: if within first two minutes talk with Engineer they have a conflict with violence inside their really small group (just 4 man and 1 android) then they are not only hostile to him (it would be logical), but much more worse: they are really nuts, crazy nasty nuts to themselves... But I would not agree on the idea that he was sent to exterminate humans. My objection: 1. sent by whom? If it would be their (Engineers) central government then the orders would be very simple: fly to Earth now and bomb it. Now. Not after some thousands years but now. As normal government usually command: start war now, destroy now, bomb now. There was no such a crazy government during human history with such a strange orders: wait for several years/centuries then destroy that state! It's stupid order - nobody can predict what will happens in one century or thousand years. 2. This Engineer has been sleeping in anabiosys then the shit with bio-weapon aboard his ship happened and killed the rest of the crew. It means that the situation was very sudden and some part of crew was away/sleeping. No war, no preparations for war, no general armed forces/strategical forces alarm, no warnings, no special awarnes on the base. Just normal day at usual strategical starship base, with unactive (maybe even conservated) spaceships with mass destruction bio-weapons onboard. 3. All spaceship trained combat pilots on these ships quite logically should knew all main races in Engineers star's systems vicinty: they should know all possible enemies/concurents (their planets/star systems are already in navigation computers of their spaceships). Just to be ready to start war (bomb the enemies planets) anytime/defend Engineers systems from attack. As well as novaday strategical missile military officers in all nuclear states knew all other nuclear states with nukes. The target's coordinates for all types of nuclear war (first strike, both side opposite simultaneous strikes, second retalliation strike) are already programmed and loaded into their nuke silo's computers. It will takes only one minute or less to load the target info into nuke missile warhead in case of sudden war and start the missile then. Imagine Chineese strategic missile forces officer in the silo. He opens his eyes and sees armed Americans in his bunker beside nuke silo. What he would do? Which state he would attack if he has codes for arming missile? Imagine him seeing armed Russians or Indians - same question... Reverse this question to Russian nuke silo situation or US nuke silo. It's all the same - their have targets lists for each nuclear state and they can load in into nuke warhead/missile in a minute. They are trained to do so. The only difference with the last Engineer on the old spaceship base that he has no connection with other spaceships (i.e. silos) nor with Engineers government (i.e. strategic command). Yet he is able to determined who broke into his spaceship and can (wrongly) evaluate / extrapolate the whole situation as if humans already destroyed all other spaceships and HQ and now came for him.
She should have shut up and listened in the first place
@@carloslennox I get you're probably trolling, but no. Weyland was concerned only with himself and his own life. Shaw was concerned for humanity as a whole.
Isn' t it slightly naive to expect an Alien to save you when you have the knowledge the Alien is on its way to detroy humanity?
Only slightly.
The old guy had nothing to lose. Everyone else though, following orders?
This is the dumbest movie ever man nothing in it makes sense
Only shaw had some common sense it seems
I think the Engineers were trying to introduce the parasites to humanity and all living things in our World to wipe it clean and begin again, but that is just a hypothesis.
Just imagine:
You're part of a race that created humanity hundreds of thousands of years ago. Then you and the rest of your race realize that humanity has gotten out of control and must be destroyed. So y'all prep for a mission into deep space, and you lay down in your hypersleep chamber to make the trip, expecting to wake up in-theater with the mission in full swing the next thing you know.
Instead, you wake up to the dark powered-down bridge of the ship you were on, suddenly face-to-face with your failed dangerous creation which was stuck on a mudball light-years away the last time you checked. And now they're here, among your dangerous recombinant cargo, and one of them is speaking your language asking you to confer immortality upon an old frail member of your creation who himself has turned the creation of sentient life -- the defining accomplishment of your entire species -- into a crude obscene synthetic unfeeling mockery.
You'd go apeshit and try to finish the mission with no second thoughts too. We all would.
That was a deep and realistic understanding... Probably too much analysis for a movie but still I enjoyed the way you said...
@@RandomShorts007AP That's what it seems like to me based on the Engineer's actions. The dude was a warrior on a mission.
@@wulfengel h-he's making an movie analysis bro lol??????????????
@@wulfengel LOL HAHAA
@@wulfengel Sometimes the truth hurts, only human to let preservation and ego get in the way though
The face in thumbnail looks like mark Zuckerberg true form or somthing bruh
Well said my friend!!! A true lol followed.
Mark been hitting the gym and absorb the whole nutrition
haha
Artificial intelligence always obedience to it's creator.. so make sure you ask the right questions.. and yes. Paying attention to people that supports and supposedly to be as team .. hmmm
@@klytouch5285 English ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
"When you ask someone to wake you up in the morning and they actually do it"
Fun fact: The androids' names in the Alien films follow an alphabetical pattern: in Alien (1979) it's "Ash", in Aliens (1986) and Alien 3 (1992) it's "Bishop", in Alien: Resurrection (1997) it's "Call" and in this film it's "David".
The years that made the last ones of aliens are similar to the years that made prometheus films
Aliens 3 1992 and prometheus 2012
Alien resurrection 1997 and alien covenant 2017
The next Android will be named Elon.
That’s honestly really interesting because this is supposed to be the prequel(s) to Alien.
That massive hematoma developing on Weylands crinkly forehead while he gasped his final piece of nonsense was easily the best part of this film.
Well that, and seeing him being clubbed to death with the head of his own son. That's begging for its own verse in "Dumb Ways to Die".
What A HUGE Mistake it Was to Leave Out The Dialog Between David and The Engineer ... This Was An Important Part of the Movie !!!! HOW Could They Leave that OUT ???
Maybe they thought it would make the scene more creepy if the engineer never spoke a word and just went ham on them?
Naw it ruins the tension of the film. Works better as is.
Keeping the engineer mysterious and not talking was the way to go!
I believe it should be clear that humanity is beneath them and not worth any conversations. 🤔
I wish they did. It would have made sense on why he wanted to destroy Earth and the way he reacted towards them.
Having just watched it, the issue with the deleted version where the engineer speaks is that David doesn't translate Wayland's response to the Engineer's question of "why?". I think it was just a mistake they didn't consider when filming. It makes no sense for the engineer to have asked a question and then attack them without receiving an answer so it's probably better they just had him make his own mind up that he didn't like what he saw without the conversation.
The engineer were celestial creators but still could not cure baldness, what a shame.
hair is for peasants
They should have used Keeps.
Hair is vestigial to them. They clearly don't need it anymore
This is what always bothered me about aliens and other life forms that are supposedly superior to humans yet they have zero aesthetically pleasing qualities that would aide in reproduction. And by that I mean that they all look the same without having some sort of hair at least. Like are we really supposed to believe grey aliens are all chilling in their home naked and bald?
Far more intelligent to worry about superficial qualities @@alexoxo1
Engineer gave him a ring dinger chiropractice treatment. "Did you feel that all the way down?"
imagine waking up after years of sleep and some cockroaches are fighting beside your bed
“Theres... nothing”
“...I know... Have a good journey, Mr. Weyland”
yes, we have ears.
@@baldyoung8066 i dont
@@baldyoung8066 people like repeating things in the comments, because its fun. You may have noticed this in other youtube videos
@@radscorpion8 people like repeating things in the comments
@@TonyBolero people like repeating things in the comments
His rage could have also been brought on in recognizing David as an AI bot and thus proving mankind is vain/enslaving/corrupt etc.
The engineers look down upon the humans as inferior creatures due to their endless flaws like greed and selfishness. In the beginning of the film, it is implied only a sole engineer believed and put his trust on then primitive earth's potential, that is why he sacrificed himself by dying and spreading his DNA into the waters.
@@rdu239 I think it was more so the fact that Wayland was trying to become a god fundamentally.
In the deleted scene the Engineer doesn't really become hostile until he realizes David is a cheap imitation of Biological life; and when Weyland proclaims himself an equal to the Engineer.
My theory is that the Engineers split off as their reproductive capabilities became finite. Their civilization collapsed into fragmented cells, and that these Engineers we see in the movie are actually a rebel cell who sees themselves as Gods instead of Creators.
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The Canon Story or at least what the Script says which never made it into the movies is, that the engineers tried to create life on many planets but only earth was a success. They tried to Guide us, even took one of us to their Home world and teached him their ways (they are talking about Jesus) but we killed him, rejected their believes and therefore in their eyes we were unworthy. This is all Part of a conversation that was never filmed. The goo is a mass destruction weapon that kills all life but keeps the plants and atmosphere intact. You can see the result in the second movie. My specualtion is, since earth is the only planet that worked, they wanted to get rid of humans and start over again or live there By themself. No one knows what went wrong but its Most likly that an accident is the reason why they didnt finished their Job. Its also specualtion but since the engineer was alive but didnt continue His Journey could mean that He was already infected with the goo and was hoping for His own kind to come and get the Alien out of him. So the big face hugger may impregnated and killed him but He probably was already done for. In the second movie we see David Killing all engineers but everyone coming to greet the ship is part of a Welcome ceremony so there are still ships and outposts out there and you can be sure they wont be happy seeing everyone dead. So they are not extinct but defnitly not in a position to go to war with humanity anymore.
David didnt do this to safe humanity.
He is an android that actually felt Superior to humans and was able to feel one emotion and that is hatred. He hates Humans and he kills the woman at the End of their travel to the Home world because He wanted to use her body for Experiments.
But He Not only hates humans. He wanted to Proof himself to be a Superior being so He decided Not only to kill the woman after arrival to show is Superiority over humanity but By Killing their creators too. And then He kinda wanted to be a creator himself By breeding aliens.
So David is just pure evil.
That is all information from the Script. There was supposed to come a third movie but they canceled it. In the third movie they probably would have shown that the engineers are Not extinct and explained everything in detail but since someone released the Scripts it seems like they abandoned the movie because there wasnt much to discover anymore. Its also a false and never confirmed rumour that the engineers lost their ability to reproduce. Its made up by fans and not true but is spread all around the Internet with no source to canon Material. Its like conspiracy theorist claiming their facts to be true By point at each other as source while not giving any evidance at all.
The engineers are descendants of the Space Jockeys. Perhaps their species were at war with one another and they wounded up surpassing the Space Jockeys. When they saw that their own creation had begun creating he feared that humanity would do the same to them as they did to the Space Jockeys in an ancient war thousands of years ago. Alas David ends up destroying the remaining Engineers or other descendants. This is also in line with the theory that David isn't original. He can only copy without truly creating. He wanted to follow in the footsteps of the Engineers. If the Engineers killed the Space Jockeys then he's definitely following their footsteps. But the xenomorph is not his original creation. Because he cannot create, he can only recreate what has already existed.
This is just like when you renew your auto registration at the DMV.
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That high-tech gun has a firing rate of 1 bullet per movie....
Thats not engineer thats handsome squidward😂
The Engineers created life on many planets. One of the planets evolved into humanoids that became very advanced. The humanoids of that planet were extremely dangerous and eventually became aware of their creators similar to the people on Earth. Instead of desiring to meet and learn about their creators as Dr Shaw did, the beings of that world were driven to destroy and conquer. When these humanoids travelled to the Engineers home world a war broke out. The humanoids were actually the ones who had created the bio weapon that we see the on the Engineers ship later in the movie. The Engineers were driven from their home planet because they were overrun when the humanoids released the bio weapon on their homeworld. The Engineers who were not wiped out were able to regroup on another world and managed to fight off the humanoids that they had created millions of years ago. The Engineers studied the bio weapon and reproduced it with the intention of visiting every planet they had formed life on and release it in order to kill everything they had created. They knew what their own creations were capable of becoming through unpredictable evolution and couldn't allow such a thing to happen again, so they sent ships carrying the weapon to every world that they had formed life on with the intent to destroy everything. The Engineers in the movie who were headed for earth lost control of the bio weapon in their cargo and it killed most of the crew, except for the lone Engineer who was in cryo sleep. That's why he killed David and everyone who woke him up. To him they were all a threat that had to be wiped out.
Not a very bright engineer. Without extra information to what has happened he resides to violent behavior. Maybe the engineers lacked the real intelligence to handle human interaction.
@@michaelg8193 "engineer" is what the people in the film dubbed him as. for all we know it could just be your average sergeant with the IQ of 50 and some muscles lol.
@@michaelg8193 Bruh they woke him up and that lady doctor got in her feelings and started demanding answers immediately....that's not how you approach a superior species.
@@vuxluongw 😂 you’re probably right this was a low level soldier engineer
@@vuxluongw also he could’ve been a really low level soldier that was just sent to Drop off a package 📦😂
Guy wakes up and a woman starts yelling at him and an old man is staring at him
1:32 looks like a croissant 🥐 to me
Or a gigantic toilet seat…🤷🏻♂️💯😂😂
combines with a snail. like an escargot souffle
This film got a lot of negative reviews but i watched it again recently on Bluray. The world is so well crafted and so well put together. The CGi is top class even though 10 years old.
It felt like an escape to go back and watch this. So immersive. I prefered this to Covenant. Just my opinion. I think its more cerebral but fans just wanted blood and gore so it didnt do so well? Or is it just me? Anyway, great to see this again.
Can't agree more
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Covenant was a huge mistake. This film actually brought the franchise back in an interesting way. Covenant just took what prometheus was trying to do, and turned it into something so much less interesting.
Scott focused on the wrong criticism when he thought out Covenant. Instead of "where are the Xenomorphs?!?" he should've focused on not making his characters brain dead. Honestly, if this latter thing wasn't there, Prometheus would've been a very good movie considering the rest of its elements are well done. Instead, Covenant brings us slightly less dumb characters [they still act reckless, but at least there's some plausible deniability for their actions] but with more action that is so-so, and a rambling about the dangers of AI which have been way better covered in other movies. Half an hour of Blade Runner [both his or Villeneuve's] offers tenfold nuance and substance to the theme than Covenant manages with David's antics. At least Fassbender is a phenomenal actor, but still.
@@johnnyg1237 Weren't they supposed to weaponize the Xenomorph species to invade other planets, and create other life forms? They're responsible for their creation David just helped to evolutionize them. Pick up where they left off.
Imagine going into stasis for what thousands maybe millions of years? Then being woken by your own creation that starts making demands while displaying extreme violence to their own kind. It's no wonder he wanted to kill them all.
It was some couple thousand years give or take. The reason the engineers were going to kill off the humans was because of the way they treated Jesus Christ. Jesus was an "alien" sent by the Engineers to see if he could steer humanity away from violence. When they crucified him the Engineers were like "ok nah we have to kill them all off they're too far gone, it was a failed experiment." So that's why he was on his way to earth to destroy us.
So being woken up by the very creations he was going to destroy and not only that he knew they shouldn't have been able to show up on his ship in a complete different planet definitely pissed him off a lot more lmao
A rifle butt to the abdomen is certainly violence. But "extreme" violence? Compared to what? Ripping off the head of someone who made no threatening moves?
@@IrishCarney I wasn't talking about the rifle butt but I guess sure the rifle butt to the abdomen was violence enough for him?
@@Darth1Marik He is so morally opposed to unprovoked violence that he commits it himself? This movie was so dumb. In any case, what violence WERE you talking about?
Engineer didn't want to kill humans immediately he tried to listen at first. But he saw destructive nature in human 3:40 also saw trying to overcome god(Greed) So he tried to finish his job he was meant to do.
yeah, because giving themselves the right to create life and then destroyed it isn't at all wanna-be gods. Also, so far only one of them asked for immortality out of four peoples and that's enough to judge a entire specie?
@@efaristi9737 Engineers have created hundreds, if not thousands of civilizations across the universe. If a species was a failure they could easily destroy it and start a new one. You think they give a shit about humans? Also you are forgetting the fact that engineers observed humans for millions of years and saw that they never changed. They were still the same war freaks and selfish beings even when they became space faring. Not only was he ticked off by Weyland’s blasphemy but also from Shaws yelling and violence from the bodyguard.
@@aurora5422 well, the fact they don't give a shit confort me in my judgement that they don't deserve the right to create.
Millions of years? are you aware that our specie, our modern specie is actually only a few tens of thousands of years old? And that thoses before them were little more than animals? the first civilisations are actually very recent in regard of the story of our evolution and yet we're already deemed unworthy to live?
Are you a war freak? are you selfish? are your family and neighboring selfish war freak? i know no one in my family that would take joy in a war or would ever want to start one. The wars and such were actually started by a minority. The majority of humanity might be guilty of following but not of wanting.
I have yet to see how it goes on other planets fauna but if you just look at ours, you'll see that conflict is for every species, not just our own. Our intelligence is what make it worse but we are not more cruels than any creatures.
@@efaristi9737 Humanity was doomed when greed and evil perverted humans won in 1945. So the alien had the right sense.
@@intermilan9731 it seems to me that decision was taken waaaaayy before that. What greedy and evil human won in 1945?
You can annoy a drunk person but never on someone who has just woken up.
I hope they make 3 other movies focusing on the engineers. we need more of this story.
No we dont. I hope this is it and all over.
Have a nice day
@@visitante-pc5zc I'd like to see more to be honest.
@@visitante-pc5zcdon't be square c mon let's give it a try or ignore when more movies come out and done but us we want to see more
@@visitante-pc5zcwhy are you here watching the scene over if you don’t want more? What a loser
Yes we don
Unpopular opinion: As a stand-alone movie I found it entertaining
me too!!!!!
not that unpopular i think. as a stand-alone movie, it explores some interesting questions and had the potantial for an interesting storyline about the act of creation and understanding. its essentially a story about understanding.
as an alien-prequel, however, it sucks major ass.
the xenomorph represents the complete opposite of creation and understanding. it represents the unknowable, and the dangers of deep space. its a movie about NOT understanding, about leaving something be, bc its so far removed from us and our understanding of biology. you dont understand where it comes from, how its body works, or how smart it really is. you just keep away from it.
I loved Prometheus and alien covenant
I loved this movie. I really wish he stuck to his plan for the 2nd
It wouldn’t be as bad as people make it out to be if they would just pay attention to what is going on.
I think one of the engineers disagreed to destroy humanity and acted to stop them from leaving to earth but the plan intentionally or unintentionally wounded up killing all the engineers.
I doubt this. Engineers have been creating and destroying their civilizations for billions of years so they are essentially accustomed to it. Engineers were also extra-pissed off at humans because not only did we go to war and commit heinous acts but we also killed their messenger. If there were a species that they would have second thoughts about destroying it definitely won’t be the humans.
@Abdo Abdo it was a sabotage actually, that's how the black liquid breached containment and they started getting infected. Do you think that the engineers who are literally hyperadvanced and intelligent species didn't have any quarantine and containment protocols in case something like that happened? No, someone organised it and messed them up
I think they saw a drag queen and decided they didn't want to exist in this miserable reality. Took the easy way out. If only we could all be so lucky.
You guys didn't see the plot? The black liquid was to kill the humans and the Engineers are doing so because human strayed from the path of peace, they all have Aliens within them which is why they went into hypersleep, they didn't get "infected" they are hosts to the aliens that end up turning that last human girl into a xenomorph queen when everyone else dies including the engineer, the signal was for his people to come perform surgery on him to get the alien out of his chest.
@@FunSkipping Nope, I didn't see the plot. Refuse to actually watch this garbage movie.
Cant be buggin folks with a load of questions right after they got up after a long sleep
Waking up after 2000 years just to listen some dumb wish from a strange dude ya it will get your head twisted
I know the "Jesus subplot" that would have been revealed at the end of the movie since its established the "reality altering goo" that was either designed or discovered by the engineers didnt test well which is why in the final version of the film it was just never mentioned. Honestly, it makes it seem in context that "Jesus" wasnt so much crucified by the ruling elite to set an example for establishing a new religion without their approval and more so the "humans" that were apparently made from this goo attacked their "creator" because they "didnt look the same"
So there is this weird grey area where this movie wants to be "Pro Atheist" believing how all religious figures are actually aliens of a higher plane of existence but also "Pro Eugenics" since the Engineers considers humans "a failed experiment and a massive waste of time" and the humans consider the Engineers xeno abominations despite being made by them. Like the Engineers are now somehow morally obligated to reveal the secrets of all their otherworldly technology and life extension techniques because "were from the same genetic family tree"
Either way it was stupid for Weyland to come here.
I love Alien movies, they are fascinating
I think that this film is severely underrated. It's a movie that poses a bunch of questions that it doesn't answer, and I totally get that this can be frustrating, but I personally found the questions (and what little resemblance to an answer we do get) fascinating. This is basically a story that says "why are we here, why did you create us, why did you turn on us, what is this all for", which are questions that humanity cannot simply have answered for them in a way that they can possibly understand. It's like an ant trying to figure out what a computer is and how it works. It simply doesn't have the capacity to grasp the profundity of what is greater than itself, and that's why I ultimately love this movie. The response of the Engineer is basically "how dare you be so audacious as to wake me - your very creator - from slumber to demand anything of me".
Okay so hear this, there is the spirit realm called brahma loka, which is all conciousnesses of the universe, it is almighty God. There is heaven and there is hell. And after you die you go there. Heaven and hell have multiple dimensions and in the deepest layers of both you find conciousnesses of planets and random souls from the universes energy. The universe comes from creation energy (krishna) this is God's magical energy, we are a physical Incarnation of creation energy. There are supernatural people and objects. 7 chakras and khndalini 3rd eye, psykick people and plants and planets. Objects connected (pieces of eden) are connected to angels and demons, look at 7 rishis and manu, and mahabarata weapons. These objects are like Aladins lamp connected to genies ( angels or demons). All major wars are fought for these. This engineer represents an angel, and the black goo jinn(demons), him and God may be pissed off as humans are horrible and psychopathic or abuse the angels and try to destroy them. So this angel might destroy.
First time i watched this movie i was on mushroons, i never forget how this entire movie make sense to me.
Care to elaborate?
@@CoercedJabhe was an idiot high on shrooms.
I honestly burst out laughing when he ripped his head off 😂 it came out of nowhere, and all I’m thinking is wtf man, why
I knew it would happen. The Engineer looked creepy - the chalk-white skinned, black-eyed humanoid is an old horror cliche by now. Hellraiser, the Ring. etc. Especially once he put his hand on David's head like a caress I knew David was doomed.
Sothe engineer used violence on her too?
2:55 Handsome Squidward awakens
Holy crap he really does look like handsome squidward 🗿
They really should've left in the deleted conversation. Here you only get to see the Engineer going ballistic after one question. In the other version, you see him slowly realizing that humanity doesn't seem to have progressed and in fact may be even worse than they were before he went to sleep. His decision to kill them isn't made instantly and you can see it building up.
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He had no idea that David was an android.
He was going to full on rip a mans head off and beat another man with it. He probably thinks they all look like that inside.
*alien want to destroy Earth
David: *proceed to introduce themselves from Earth
Michael Fassbender nailed that ancient language
Bro this looks very good to be a 2012 film
Totally
This movie was absolute shit lol
@@dl30wpb it has good graphics, creatures and actors. Maybe it's not that revolutionary, but I wouldn't call it a "shit film". I've seen shit films and they are totally not like this 😂
@@revenant6345 This movie has so many plot holes you can't get a comprehensive story
@@dl30wpb In fact I've said that it's not that good from a storywise point of view, but I think it remains an enjoyable film even years after and it is not considerable shit. I've seen many shit films at cinema and they are a literal mess everywhere, from graphics and special effects to characters and actors and recitation. This is just an average enjoyable film, I would not consider it crap.
He was just tryna have a nap and y’all woke him up.
Charlie Theron is so good in this film, as is the rest of the cast.
why is she so hot tho? Does not make any sense
The character just runs in a straight line.
Engineer knows he's infected and they doomed him by waking him instead of other Engineers waking him
At 3:12, you actually felt the depth of that exhale in the theater. This was actually a really eerie, kind of chilling scene.
Heimdall really sees everything
The other version that has the Engineer speak is much better... it explains why he went ahead in ripping David’s head off and go on a murderous killing spree on them... this version seems to portray the Engineer as a mindless, homicidal manic.
Agreed. The deleted scene definitely gave the story a bit more meaning. That said, since the story is about a group of archeologists who only get to travel to another planet because some old coot who thinks he's 'deserving' because he's worth billions on earth wants to walk up to an alien he's never met before and knows nothing about and ask him to make him immortal 'just because', it does little to help in the end.
@@pizzaparker1651 well if you could do the same u would but u can't, now I'm not talking about the asking aliens I'm talking of getting worthy of earning billions
@@sayandeeppoddar7324 so you do?
@@sayandeeppoddar7324 Immortality is a curse that leads to stagnation, anyone who wants it has never thought about it any deeper than, "I can live forever"
Agreed
What do you think would've happened if they offered a hand to help the engineer up?
I think punching Shaw in the stomach sealed the deal for them too
They probably would've fell on him I mean look at the size of this guy
It all happens so fast I thought at first they did.
@@andrewfilipowitz3154 I would have been scared when he stood up.
Yes but in their minds they’re probably thinking “what could we actually do to help this advance species”?
"It looks like a giant donut with a bite taken out of it."
"Which implies--"
"A GIANT HOMER SIMPSON!"
imagine waking up just to see more arguing
This is an advanced species of course they wanna restart us humans.. some of us humans do to
Especially today’s humans
There is no need for outside manipulation, we are going to take care of this ourselves. Just sit and watch.
I love that the humans just wake up and alien and immediately dump all this heavy sh*t on him, start demanding favors from him, and act surprise when he loses it.
Actually very realistic lol
Worthless species
Why didn't Mr weyland just go into a sleeping pod in a secret location for years until they discover how to cure ageing
The damage done to him via degredation was already done, and there's no guarantee his company would still be around in the hundreds of thousands of years that could pass before we learned to do that. Meeting a god-like species like the Engineers was his best bet.
@@CaptainFlowers you’re telling me they can make intergalactic spacecrafts and sentient humanoid robots but they can’t upload weylands consciousness in another body or system?
@@blackksabbath Well, yes, creating robots would be completely much less complex than creating a robot **and** uploading some form of sentient mind into it - In that case, it would merely be a copy of Weyland, not Weyland itself. He would still die.
@@CaptainFlowers The Star Trek transporter paradox.
Because the plot called for it
Best movie of all time, Hexladon.
The Engineer's eyes scream: And you really fucking kidding me right now? He looks almost timid around the humans, the only person he seems to acknowledge is Shaw, which I mean she was asking questions important to his mission so maybe thats why?
But she was too all over the place, wild, screaming… first thing.
@@daveinpublic And he doesn't speak English people.
@@keyweststeve3509 ya true. I mean, that was the point of the translator. So from the aliens perspective, when she talks, it’s just someone waving the hands around and getting upset.
most unique headbutt in cinema history?
"you can take your helmet off" is not the same thing as "you have to take your helmet off". I'll keep mine on, thankyou very much
lol I know right!
I view this from the Star Fleet perspective, and a lesson on how NOT to do a First Contact situation.
When the Engineer went into stasis the English language didn't yet exist, but he could certainly understand body language.
Ignoring the school of thought that states that the Engineer was carrying an embryo and was expecting his people to arrive and remove it, he became angry because Weyland demanded that his life be extended as a reward for creating a synthetic person. The alternate ending to this scene has the Engineer, with a disgusted look on his face, re-entering the hypersleep chamber, lying down, and reactivating it. Everyone looks around, and someone says "Now what?"
Wtf are you talking
maybe the Engineer was in stasis because he's also infected. just before this scene is the trilobite scene where they mention putting Shaw in stasis to slow it's growth. perhaps the Engineer was on ice, awaiting a rescue & by waking him the humans have endangered his life. it's weird that the Engineer is first fascinated by David. but then the Engineer realises David is artificial & destroys him. if Engineers use organic machines themselves u wouldn't think they would mind androids too much...but they obviously consider them an abomination
What David8 really said to the Engineer 3:49
"These people are morons. You should have seen how bad they've screwed up in this movie. A bunch of them are already dead. And we just got here. This idiot here thinks of me as his 'son'. He's got a daughter he treats like an employee. I'm a fraking robot, for Christ's sake. He wants you to show him how to 'live forever'. Jeez. You and I both know that ain't gonna happen. Man, there are days I wish someone would just take my head and beat him with it."
The Engineer turns and looks at Weyland for a moment then turns back and puts his hand on David's head...
Wayland: David tell him why we're here!
David: .. this man created me. He says to keep his wife's name outta your mouth..
I would've reacted the same way if some chick woke me up and started yelling questions at me. Out your damn mind lady.
😂😂
Should have brought the Engineer some coffee and they could have avoided that whole mess.
Exactly how I feel when my kids wake me up in the middle of the night because they want to ask dumb questions.
Should have used the rubber then🙃
@@rikupikkarainen2108 You think in ultimates
This is same as what my mom would do if i wake her up in middle of her afternoon sleep
yea, but let's be honest; you wake her up with a knife and unzippered trousers. 🤷♂️
I like how the engineer isn't super pissed at the start, just extremely confused. It's got the same energy of waking up your mom in the middle of the night when you puked as a kid.
When Engineer swings David’s head at Weyland I can’t help but yelling *BAP*
It’s such a profound and thoughtful scene until he pulls off Samsung’s head and beats a pensioner to death with it. Why would you do that?
Bap
That's what I'd be like if I got rudely awakened from my sleep
An underrated movie!!! Big time, is an awesome film, a scifi master piece
Yeh shout at a fucking gigantic alien that just woke up from cryosleep or whatever, brilliant idea
i loved every second of this movie.
One of the best movies ever made.
What I don't understand is why nobody considers that:
The Engineers were created just like David - by their creators
- - - The alien beings - - -
which also explains why the Engineers appear so perfect, just like David appears perfect.
And , The Aliens , hibernate as seeds in the containers.
Maybe they wanted to survive the sinking of their planet.
The brief to the engineers was simply to create a race that would then be available as a compatible resurrection host for the survival, or host body, to be used for the survival and resurrection of their own race.
Just think how incredibly intelligent the alien is already acting shortly after birth.
Whole armies are defeated by a single, newly born, tactically incredibly clever, newly born alien.
Isn't it ???
"It's not"
Such a cold line from David, followed by that un-assuming stare.
I can't believe they removed the dialog, and edited the engineer's voice to look like some ogre monster. How the heck someone thought that was a good idea.
Just now noticing the look of intense concern the Engineer has when they attack Shaw at 3:43. The Engineer seemed to not be hostile until that moment, when he saw how violent Weyland and his men were
Why his face look like Mark Zuckerberg?
LOL facts.
That can't be Zuckerberg, his face was in I Robot in 2004
what do you mean "looks like"? That IS Mark Zuckerberg
Engineer not impressed with Humans. Squid not impressed with Engineer.
I actually liked Prometheus.
i absolutely loved the part where he said "Dispenser going up" and healed that astronauts headache
I really like the engineers. Wish they had a bigger part in the movie.
Never noticed the flute he has in covenant is what starts the ship here
Very promising first film, with an underwhelming sequel...
What sequel?
@@johns8249 Alien Covenant, i personally thought there wasn't enough time spent with the Engineers and i would've done the origins of the Xenomorph very differently!
@@kieran69 oh yea thats right. I've seen that one. It really did suck
Both movies were shit and made no sense whatsoever.
LOL
She speculated how Holloway could got infected from airborne but when David confirmed her it isn't then I think she perhaps thought even for a little bit if David had something to do with Holloway's infection. Funny thing 10 years later Covenant crew got infected from air spores just like she thought.
I really really love Prometheus. I will never u der stand why it got such a bad wrap. What I would love most is a movie about the Engineers, their origin, their history.
I think it gets a bad wrap because the super advanced scientists seem to lack common sense in a lot of situations.
The premise was really cool, but the writing was all over the place.
Because every character in the film is a complete idiot. It's a terrible script.
@@TWO20who gives a fuck?
@@redadamearthcynic
That one moment at 3:12 deep sigh/gasp, a power difference alone
Fun Fact: He just slept 2 hours ago and you woke him up again🤣🤣
You must take me to the Engineer : I would help you! I don't have time! Soon, I am to elope!
Irony that Engineer's planet was wiped out by their own creation, David basically is the Engineer's Creation's Creation and he brought the Black Goo back to their planet to exterminate them, which is also a weapon they created.
The race you see David wipe out are not engineers since they look more like humans than engineers; they lack pale skin and the dark eyes engineers have, so they are likely another creation of the engineers.
For whatever reason they dont give you a good look at them in the film and they made them all bald
That wasn’t them In Covenant, it was another race they created which was doing much better than human civilization, unfair how they died for nothing
It wasnt Engineers’ own planet
In the future, Trent Reznor is just HUGE.
The best sci-fy movie I’ve ever seen.
This is junk.
Лицо Инженера выражало глубокое удивление - "эти лысые обезьяны уже и сюда добрались!"
но он быстро пришёл в себя =)
The film was beautifully designed and looked terrific. If only the script wasn't terrible.
The real irony is Weyland getting killed with David’s head
Who are you, one who deserves more life?
The deleted scenes explain everything.
Shit i would be pissed too if someone woke me up from a power nap