Is the 2021 I-Pace good enough to lead Jaguar to 'EV only' by 2025 ?! [Road Test]
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Car manufacturers often make bold claims and bold statements, but saying you will only make electric vehicles from 2025 when you currently only make one is pretty bold. Thanks to Harwoods Jaguar Chichester, I spent a couple of days with the latest Jaguar I-Pace. The simple question is...is it good enough to take Jaguar on that journey ?
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I agree with your overall enthusiasm for the iPace. I’ve had mine fir two years and absolutely love it. My previous cars have been a Porsche Boxster, a Porsche 911 (997) C4S and a Porsche 911 (996) Turbo . The iPace is just as much fun to drive as the Porsche sports cars and it’s far easier to get in and out of and far more practical as a daily driver. I get 420 km range only needing to charge it once a week on my 7kw home charger that takes about 8 hours. For a long trip there is absolutely nothing wrong with stopping for half an hour for coffee & lunch whilst getting a 40 to 80% charge in half an hour on a 50kw public charger. Do yourself a favor and buy that iPace you love, it’s a fantastic car, you won’t regret it!! Cheers Martin Rees New Zealand
Thanks much for this comment. I know it's from three years ago, but we are looking to purchase a 2019 or 2020 I-Pace and live in the Pacific Northwest in the USA where there are quite a lot of places to charge if we set out on a road trip. Our current EV, an older Nissan Leaf has a much smaller range and it's more than adequate for in the city (Seattle), with a 5-6 times greater range, the I-Pace should be more than enough for us.
We will not even consider a Tesla because Elon Musk is such a menace, interfering in elections to help Donald Trump. Driving a Tesla these days where we live is super embarrassing. People are putting stickers on their cars to explain that they didn't know how bad Elon Musk was when they bought their cars.
I am fortunate enough to live the dream. The shortage of range twice a year is a worthwhile sacrifice
Are you still driving the I Pace? What's the battery life like in your opinion? And would you recommend this car for purchase?
@@StrifeNinja I sold the car 2 months ago, not because of any major problems, but every 5 years I get the urge to change the wife or car and it is cheaper to change the car. The car cost £70k and I sold it for just under £19k and I did have a concern that it would have zero value when the manufactures' battery warranty runs out. One thing to look out for is the front windscreen bonding becomes loose and can let in water. Jaguar originally claimed the car was out of warranty but when I pointed out this was a regular problem that was not wear and tear but an underlying fault, they agreed to change it free of charge. One big problem is that if the batteries do fail, you can, I am told wait ages for replacement cells
Overall great car to drive, but it depends on your risk profile
@mikejoseph425 Thanks for the response. Appreciate the time you took to reply to me. I don't come from a good family with money but I'm running a small business where I need a vehicle for my stock. This car looked really nice and convenient and I was looking to buy a second hand used one however the issues you mentioned has me a little worried as I am looking for something reliable. If the battery warranty runs out and the battery stops working. What can I do in that situation? Would I need to purchase a new battery? And does the batteries for these vehicles cost a lot?
I have been driving my ipace in Australia for 5 weeks now. Did 1200km in the first week from Canberra to Brisbane via Sydney, plenty of ultra rapid chargers every 200kms,..80% charge in 20mins...brilliant! Range is not an issue for me.
I must be getting old. I'm watching a car video and I'm thinking: I like the colour of those window frames, on the house.
😂😂😂
I absolutely love the Jaguar I-Pace and it is defiantly my favorite EV on the market today. I've test driven a lot of EV over the last few years including the Ford Mach-e and the Tesla X and none of them give me the joy of driving a "Performance inspired" EV like the I-pace. Jaguar driving instructor even let me drag race a F-type in the I-Pace and it was amazing the way the electric motor put down the torque to the ground was like nothing I've felt before.
I totally agree! The I-PACE is an amazing car to drive. All it needs is for the 400 in EV400 to also mean miles per charge as well as the ‘BHP’
I’ve had one of these for a couple of years and it’s by far the best car we’ve had - the novelty of outgunning pretty much anything else at the lights still puts a big grin on the face
Mine arrives next Monday - can’t wait, especially as my current car is a Citroen Pluriel 😬
Good things come to those who wait 🙌🙌
My iPace is now 5 yrs old and still feels new and is still a delight to drive, its handling is very dynamic and puts a smile on your face. I still get 420 kms range thus no battery degradation. Front tyres have recently been renewed at 45,000 kms. You won’t be disappointed buying one of these cars 2nd hand. A very comfortable family car.
I have a 2019 I-Pace. A truly epic car, best day to day road car I've driven by a long shot
I have 2019 I-Pace too. If I was to go 230 miles, I would just stop somewhere on the way to add 30 miles. That would take about 10 minutes, which is enough time to use a bathroom.
@@tomusiaka Exactly. I thought the same thing when he said the range wasn't quite enough. Few people would drive 200+ miles without some sort of stop for maybe 30 minutes or so...
But.... if you need a reliable charging network, the only one you can rely on is Tesla’s network.
If I was in Ped’s position with work & life, the I-Pace wouldn’t be suitable.
When we can start hosting Supercar Experience days again, I couldn’t use the Jag, as it would add 2hrs to my drive home from some events.
If I’m unfortunate enough that I need to take a Lamborghini or a Ferrari home, I have to stop 3 times for fuel, which is a real pain..... and that’s only a 10min stop!
I’m with Ped on this one, if you do a lot of driving & you have a long journey, all you want to do is get there with the least amount of drama possible...... and for that, you need a Tesla.
@@thomassneath8134 which is why I said day to day road car. The vast majority of car use is short runs. If I wanted to go to south of France I’d hire a car, not take the iPace.
@@thomassneath8134 avoid ecotricity and actually there are a lot of reliable chargers: BP, Shell, instavolt, genie point, etc. All take contactless and most are affordable. I have 2019 I-pace live near Slough and have done trips and holidays all over before lockdown. Drove to wells in Somerset and back on a single charge. Ok it’s only 190 miles round trip, but majority is motorways and the mendips! When lockdown ends I’m driving to Perthshire in Scotland. Ped just buy one, Tesla range is never as high as they claim.
These look amazing.
Totally agree with you Pete.
Big gamble for Jaguar, 2025 isn’t that far into the future.
Then again, if you look back, 2017 seems like miles away.
I would add, as an I-Pace owner myself for 18 months, range in winter is 225 miles, but I've managed 260 miles with ease in summer months.
Great 👍
A good video Ped. I’d like to address the range thing from my perspective as a driver trainer.
The journey from Chichester to Cornwall is a long one with few fast roads and a lot of tourist traffic at times. As a Portsmouth resident I’ve done the journey to Devon a few times in an EV. Any driver doing this journey should take a short break. The Highway Code rule 91 says 15 minutes every two hours. If I was doing a fleet assessment on a driver who said they were doing 4 to 6 hour plus journeys without stopping my report would reflect discussions we’d have around it and if they said their boss made them do it the report would be worded to make their boss realise how irresponsible they’re being.
OK you might say I’m being pedantic but this is how roads should safely be used. On your journey to Cornwall you wouldn’t run the iPace almost flat then look for a charger to fill it right up again. You just need to stop somewhere on the way for 10 to 30 minutes, depending on the charger, to add another 50 to 80 miles. If you did this when the battery was about half full you’d get a lot of charge quickly. There must be times you need a quick loo break, or am I thinking like the middle aged man I am. You’d also pass dozens of rapid chargers on the way. Do you have a charger at your house in Cornwall as well?
If you love the iPace and all that stops you getting one is having to stop for 15 minutes on occasional journeys you are missing out on ownership of a very nice car. We saw the smile on your face along the B road.
Another thought on fuel tax. Have a look at the costs to the NHS of the affects of traffic pollution. There are various reports. One found about £9billion a year. One put the cost per car in London at £8,000 in its lifetime. Plus the costs to the taxpayer of decommission the North Sea infrastructure which the oil companies made the money using. The £27 billion a year fuel duty would not be missed if we didn’t have these costs. But it’s great for the government to have everyone thinking how will they replace fuel tax. It means we easily accept new taxes like road pricing.
Driving 3.5 hours non-stop isn’t recommended from a health point of view. Although I’m no doctor! If you stopped for 20 mins for a leg stretch, a wee and to reload on Yorkshire Tea, you could charge an I-Pace enough to get to your holiday home in beautiful Cornwall.
funny, all hGV drivers drive 4.5 hours and then have brake 45min, and again 4.5 hours of driving, everyday.
Don't know if you are still following comments to this, but after watching the review, I went down to Harwoods and bought the exact car you tested. Taking delivery next week. Thank you !
That’s amazing. Congratulations 👏
You’ll love it...I did 👍
apart from the crappy app (and the fact there are 2 jaguar 'remote' apps so thats weird) here's a couple of observations since i bought my 2020 HSE ipace, if i'm doing something wrong please let me know :
- it has heads up display which can show everything except range left in battery
- steering wheel adjustment still manual, but seats/mirrors ARE electric/memory based, so when a diff driver gets in (which is the main point of having memory based settings) they still have to adjust the steering wheel manually
- heated steering wheel temp is fixed and almost scalds your hands after 5 mins
- no visible indication your cars charging once you lock it
- when you select drive mode you dont know what mode you're in since its not displayed anywhere
- no wireless charging on my 'high spec' model
I've had a MY20 HSE and just took delivery of a MY21 HSE...I'm getting 240 mile range, and that's not by sitting in the cold with the lights off! It's a brilliant vehicle...comfortable, luxurious and responsive!
Nice 👍
"230 miles without a stop" ... that's a long time to be seated without a break, and it would only need a short break (with rapid charge) to put in a bit of energy to make that distance comfortably within range.
You’ve made a sensible point but die hard owners of ice cars will not be convinced.
@@chruth1986 Yeah, but a "short break" can fully recharge a petrol car for another 230 miles.
It's not about being die-hard, it's about there not being a workable alternative yet. With a disability and somewhat dependent on medical equipment, an EV would be even more restricting.
Many years ago, for work, I had to travel from South midlands to Carlisle. I needed to do it in one day. So I asked the then ex if she wanted to come. Which she did. I asked her, "Will you need to stop on the way?" She said she would. So I left her at home 8-))...
229 miles there and 229 miles back. No stops on the way. Only had a quick break when I was in Carlisle*
* Slight lie. On the way back, I stopped for a KFC. But I had done my work by getting to Carlisle ASAP. 8-))...
Agree, It's my first choice also. Most of the road tests to see how far this would go on a charge at 70 say 240-250. I would also like to see 300, but for us 250 fine. Thanks for the great review as always.
Have you heard of the joining of Gridserve and Electric Highway. Looks full of promise for the future of MSA charging. Some chargers have already been replaced.
Solid state battery will solve the range issue as long as they do the weight saving that all new cars should be subjected to.Never seen any new car come out with less weight than it predecessor which is just madness and there is no excuse for it.
I drive a BMW i3s and the most the GoM has ever stated as range is 226 miles on a warm day last summer, mostly it sits at about 160-170 miles. Mostly use it for journeys within 50ish miles from home. But we did travel down to Cornwall last summer with the mutt. Stopped twice, once for a bladder and coffee break and again for the mutt. Arrived with 30% charge. Both stops were about 30 mins. I do get the argument for 300+ miles but in reality, ~200 is liveable for most people most of the time and also keeps the purchase price down. iPace is a really bold Ian Callum design classic & would certainly fit our usage when the i3s is changed
A late 2019 (2020 model) of the I-Pace SE is the same price as a mid-spec new ID4 (long range).
Which would you guys consider the better choice?
Model Y is about 20K more than that in this market.
Ped, you won't be waiting too long for your range. For example, Renault Zoe: 2013, 22kwh battery, 2020, 55kwh battery. BMWi3: 2014, 22kwh, 2018, 42kwh - in both cases, in the same space within the car. Battery tech (and therefore range) will keep improving.
Hopefully this will allow the batteries to get lighter too
Great film as always Ped. With you on the I-Pace. We love Jaguar (I’ve had an F-Type and my wife drives an E-Pace). There is a sense that it’s the slight lack of range and the efficiency that stop the I-Pace being a Tesla beater, but we’re still very tempted, particularly as the Model Y is still a way off…🧐
Excellent assessment of the 2021 model. I owned a 2019 HSA throughout 2020 and agree with all the points you make (except in relation to the infotainment system which was nowhere near as good as it is in the latest model).
I sold the I-Pace because of the range limitations, as you rightly point out, and the dire public charging infrastructure which you have highlighted in previous reviews. Don’t even get me started on Ecotricity, although InstaVolt gets top marks. I sold the Jaguar and bought a Model 3 Long Range which addresses my two main problems, range and charging. Incidentally, as you know, the M3 is considerably more efficient than the I-Pace which is a real watt-guzzler. I was using 360 watt/hours per mile with the I-Pace while the M3 (on a smaller battery) gets its 300+ range because it do a mile on under 250 W/h. It is much cheaper to run, especially with my overnight Octopus rate of 5p per unit and the greater range (which means using less of the expensive public energy). Over the course of a year this is a significant saving, not that my primary consideration has ever been cost saving to that extent. It’s nice to have, though.
The Model 3 is a very different car, of course, and belongs to a cheaper price range than the HSE. The Jaguar is probably better built and has more of an aura of luxury. But the Tesla is remarkably well equipped with driver aids (better than the Jaguar) and I do not feel short changed having made the swap. I am revelling in the minimalism compared with the compromise layout of the Jaguar’s controls. Incidentally, I considered all the other high-end EVs (including Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, Polestar) but share the Jaguar’s major problem of not having access to a grown-up charger network. As an all rounder, I feel happier with the Tesla. We’ll have to see how I feel after a year...
Great looking car!!! Have a ‘23 on order. Can’t wait to get it!! Thank you for the review video.
Just bought one actually ....traded in my 2015 S3 Sportback yesterday. Wow, i pace just amazing to look at and drive !!
Enjoy it
After a lot of market study and gone through the reviews decided to buy Jaguar I pace.. turns to a right decision ..amazing car looks like small - it is an advanced design. comfort and handling is superb. 400 bhp & it is over filled with technologies.. chosen the Air Suspension. I had Premium cars from last 15 years Merc - Audi & Jag XF. This I pace is something else cant compare with others especially the built quality. Jaguar Durability
I have a 2020 iPace that I think is absolutely brilliant in most respects.
The two key downsides are the range and charging infrastructure, which are both covered here. However, the Jaguar does have trouble charging at sites where others can charge without a problem, so it's not all down to the infrastructure. The charging infrastructure is rapidly being upgraded so I'm less concerned about that. The only real problem I have had was around the very North of Scotland where there's next to no functioning rapid chargers.
The range on the iPace is poor when compared to other vehicles though. It appears to chew threw the electricity much faster than other cars with a similar sized battery, so needs to get more efficient. Getting more efficient means the range improves or the price drops, both good things.
Hopefully by the time I come to get my next car, probably 2023, then there will be more options out there to choose from with a good range and price point.
Nice review, hit the nail on the head though. Do you go with your head aka decent range and charging network, a Tesla. Or go with your heart like a premium German brand or JLR. I hear the koreans might be a good middle ground, being more affordable and strong range, so maybe they will be the overall winners. Vw and Skoda also ones to watch. Its all so exciting 😁
The reason internal combustion took over from electric cars at the start, was because the business model of replacement parts was greater than electric and a monopoly was created - there is a larger industry at risk of electric cars and that’s the local garage
Absolutely ! I haven't seen much comment about this very important aspect of the "dash for electric" At a stroke, pure EV's do away with much of the attendant complications of ICE vehicles (gearboxes/clutches/cooling systems/radiators) plus many more which have traditionally kept many local garages in business. It will be manageable as long as we wean ourselves off the ICE slowly, this will give businesses time to re-focus, re-train staff etc. Mad talk about "banning" this and that will cause massive uncertainty and give rise to significant unemployment.
I understand the concern, but there's no putting the cat back in the bag once it's out.
The simplicity of the electric drive train means a much simpler vehicle to maintain, though tyres, suspension and to some extent the brakes are still the same. But the mechanics element has gone. Smart thinking garages will change soon to electric servicing, but the volume will be considerably less than the current model.
The other thing to consider is the sales model with Tesla in particular and a number of other big manufacturers sidestepping the dealerships and selling direct to the public. We are likely to end up in a different place than we are in today, probably with a different model of ownership than we have today too.
I’ve had a couple of Leafs now. My last service on a one year old car cost £159 at the Nissan dealer. The only part needed was a pollen filter. The rest was visual inspection. At £159 that’s an expensive service for what’s done. As it’s probably only going to need a pollen filter every year and brake fluid change every other year that’s a lot of revenue lost by garages. The first major thing Leafs tend to need is a good brake service at 100,000 miles. Not because the brakes are worn but because they corrode due to the regenerative braking doing all the stopping.
@@EVinstructor thats the garages trying to maintain their revenue stream and they set their EV service intervals not necessarily by what the car needs but how they can continue to milk you for cash. As more independent servicing garages open, the undercutting may make them adapt to be more competitive.
@@Lewis_Standing The HEVRA network of independents is growing.
My car is my driving school car as well as personal transport. To be fair to Nissan the service includes a year of free recovery service. Because the car has a dual control for business use recovery companies say it has to have business recovery service, they costs a lot more. Nissan say the car is covered for recovery.
In reality I don’t mind the service costs. They’re so much less than fossil cars were, with the vehicle recovery, stamp in the service book and maintaining the warranty it’s good value for a business relying on the car for income and reputation. It also protects the trade in value when the car moves on.
One certainty is the need for garage services will get less as we see more EVs.
I'm a bit late to the party this week, didn't watch until Saturday so this might have been said already. I find the best place to put the charging cables in my 2019 I-Pace is in the little cubby under the bonnet. Just the right size and accessible without emptying the boot.
My thoughts exactly PP. I love the looks, both inside and out. Like you I regularly do long trips and don't want to stop and charge.
Unfortunately I don’t think you will have a choice, we will al be going EV in the UK at least. Need to look at our attitude towards driving and planning our routes and breaks for brief charges before going on with the journey. It really isn’t as difficult as everyone on here make it out to be. Obviously if you can charge from home it is much easier and more convenient. Leave home everyday with a full charge/tank of fuel. Whilst i was asleep. Not an issue. About a penny a mile in fuel costs. No brainier compared with 10-20pence per mile on an ICE vehicle.
@James Calvert Fossil fuel industry really want to see hydrogen being adopted because it will keep them in business. Very little hydrogen is created using renewable technology. Information coming from the likes of Hyundai, Kia and MG regarding range and charging speeds for their forthcoming releases should make Jaguar think about their range and charging speeds. Sure the IPace is beautiful inside and the handling is exceptional but, if Jaguar don't up their game they are going to be left behind.
@James Calvert My sentiments exactly. Just as there is Petro & Diesel - there is no real reason wht there could not be both Hydrogen and EV.
Great video Pete but please please get a mic for your driving shots. There’s loads of road noise and it’s very hard to hear you over that and the vibrations through the windscreen, especially on this video. Keep up the good work though 👍🏼
Great vid, i love this car. I have a similar problem as you that I own a second gaff in Wales, Ffair Rhos to be precise. 260miles ish from Surrey. I have a Freelander 2 and a motorbike. When i go by car, I just want to get there asap and get the logs on the fire. By bike, with a range of 160 miles ish, I'm happy to stop off say in Bath or Bristol to refill. This is very relaxing and now part of the journey as I can break the journey to check out the shops and cafe's (for lunch) which i now call part of the journey. So i would research the best charging points for maybe lunch break, which would charge enough to get you to your destination after an hours charge or so. All part of a nice day out 👍 Sadly in lockdown this sucks.
My iPace is a dream to drive, especially long road trips.
Unfortunalty let down by poor after sales service and patronisinig dealerships that make out every issue with the car to be the customer's problems. So sadly, I can only advise avoid buying this great car, due to the near non existent after sales service.
Its funny how things change in life that a year ago I needed 300 plus range now 220 is enough and one has now come up within my budget and spec. HSE spec, Air Suspension, Meridian Surround Sound etc. etc. Pushed the button on the purchase and it is being delivered on Friday. Doing my bit for the planet and my fitness as going to be a one and a bit car family, when boy home from University.
Recently test drove one of these and agree. Totally in love with the look and the way it drives. Realistically, it has enough range for 95% of my driving but there’s always that bit of hesitation. Its also kind of ruined most other cars I’ve been considering (both EV and ICE). Wouldn’t have expected one of the older entrants from a small manufacturer to still be so compelling
Great cars 👍
@@PetrolPed I got an HSE black a few months ago, incredible to drive, looks fantastic from all angles, and very comfortable at both low and high speeds. Its quite heavy, so maneuvering through windy country roads at speed isn't easy, and it has a real tendency to understeer. The only EVs I have driven that are better are the Taycan 4S, and the i4 M50. Considering those are both much newer, that says something about how good a 4 year old car still is.
I've had at least one Jag, often two in my garage consistently for the last 25 years. EVs are not for me. I couldn't go more than 100 miles from home without the hassle of recharging to get back again. I might buy an F Pace SVR though while I still can.
I'm ok with the range because thinking of my daily driving, I very seldom need to drive 200+ miles in a day. One improvement I would like to see is replacing all the rear view mirrors with cameras & screens to improve the aero-efficiency.
The rear view is fine when you get used to I! Better than a Ford Mustang
I agree it’s the best day to day car I have ever driven AND I wish It had a bit more range.
After watching your review of the I-PACE (and already loving the Jag range of cars), i have taken the plunge into EV ownership and just brought my first EV. A Jag I-Pace HSE. Loved the test drive but cant wait to take it out for a proper drive. Great content, keep up the good work.
my dad got this car (almost the same model but has some differences) a couple of days ago. i love it already. it drives very nicely, it is very comfy, and i love the design. we are going up to scotland this summer (the isle of mull) so it will be intresting to see how it will do. overall very pleased with the car so far :)
Cool 😎
As an ipace real world owner I can attest that the range is not a problem. A 230 mile trip will involve some motorway but also some other motoring to and from. You are looking at 4+ hours of driving. A comfort break will add the range needed. A meal break will give a fill up. Unlike a petrol stop, you dońt need to stay with the pump. Just plug in and go do whatever. How often do we check our phones these days? Spend 10 minutes to stretch legs, etc and 10 minutes catching up on the phone and you’re off. There are wonderful apps to map routes and keep informed about charging availability, amenities, etc. You have to experience it to understand EV driving.
Very true! We have to stop to stretch both our, and our dogs’, legs before the battery is empty; and a coffee break is plenty to top up the range for the next leg. We’ve driven further and further since getting the car autumn 2019, and have a 5000km European road trip lined up this summer.
Another great vid Ped. Are you going to give the Kia EV6 a go when they start releasing the press cars? Looks like it could be a properly interesting take on the EV genre!
When they get the range to 300 miles people will complain its not 400 miles, then 500 miles & so on, really, in day to day driving how often do most people drive 200 miles in one hit without having access to a power supply either at work or home. I think cost is more of an obstacle than range for the average household.
For all the traveling salespeople, EV is useless.
Car rental companies especially in touristy countries - EV useless.
People with busy lives - useless.
How does the equation chamge now you can also charge at Tesla Superchargers?.
Well in 2022, yes! I just bought mine last month. It's the same portofino blue colour but the non-black edition SE. It is fantastic (satnav issue aside) but it looks exactly the same as the one you tested. I love it! It is a splendid car to drive. And no child locks on 🙂
In my mind the I-Pace will be perfect for a trip to Cornwall, wish i could afford one. I usually leave London about 4am and drive until I find a place for breakfast and toilet break (my bladder is not cast iron like yours as you can do the trip without stopping), ideal time to charge to make it with plenty of range. Now, if I was doing a 125 mile round trip in one day then I'd also want a car with more range as i wouldn't want to charge on this kind of trip (but it won't stop me getting an I-Pace if i could afford it)
A 230 miles trip to Cornwall is a 4 hours minimum journey and most people quite like a comfort stop halfway for a coffee and loo visit. A 15 minute charge there will be enough to allow an i-pace to complete that trip with ease and not cause any overall journey delay. People don't need a longer EV range once they realise that they already do a mid journey stop in their ICE cars. And the car re-fuels as you drink coffee and eat a muffin.
Exactly what I was thinking!...
True.
But we don’t won’t to stop 🤔
@@PetrolPed - Yes, I get that. Which is why I used the word 'most'. You are an edge case that thinks it's OK to drive 4 to 5 hours without a break. 'Most' think that isn't safe. 'Most' would find the i-pace range fits in with such a break taken for safety and bladder reasons.
Suddenly realised whilst watching this video that I went to Uni with you Pete! Hope you’re well. I’m getting an IX3 soon, you need to review that 😎
I remember the name. How cool is that. How are you mate ?
@@PetrolPed good thanks. Putting the degree to good use designing medical devices. Keep the videos going, really interesting viewing and well filmed 👍🏻
You would only need to stop one time for about 20 minutes to make your trip. Not much of a compromise.
Have you tried the Polestar yet, Pete? It may suit your needs. The efficiency of the iPace is really disappointing, in what otherwise looks like a great car.
Many polestar reviews show the efficiency to be less than the I-Pace. The Ford mustang probably has the edge now.
I have owned an I-Pace for 2 years now. It is the best car I have ever owned. Fantastic performance and roadholding. Stunning quality cabin (HSE spec.). I agree with the comments in the video that we want a realistic range of 300 miles as this permits overnight charging at home or destination. So called fast chargers are too unreliable particularly on the motorway network.
Ped by this there is lots of charging on the way to cornwall, You would only need a 15mins charge then plug up when you arrive at you Holiday home
Hi Ped, as you have driven both the ipace and the fpace I was wondering what you think of as a comparison of the 2 cars. I have seen that a 2019 ipace and a 2019 fpace can be picked up for the same price on the used car market.
Totally different cars really. F Pace 3.0L diesel is a brilliant car if you don’t mind diesel. IPace is one of the best looking EVs out there 👍
Great video review of a great car, I know as I have one. For me being retired range is no issue, it’s very cheap car to run, less than 2p per mile. I do think it would be a good idea if Jaguar teamed up with a good charging network. Range well in summer I get around 250 miles, and oh sorry I couldn’t live with a Tesla interior.
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My father ordered one and it’s coming at the end of the month. I really hope it’s really good :/ definitely gonna miss the exhaust and engine noise of out current car ://
It is quiet, though there is a noise generator that you can select if you really want to, sounds like a space ship...
tbh, you get used to the lack of noise very quickly.
nice to know you really liked it...I am surprised the update didn't include a significant lift in battery density or efficiency. ..enjoyed the short time I spent in one though the spirited driving it encourages did impact range...but so hard to resist.
I'd say you need at least 350 miles on a full charge to make it viable. Also the speed of charging would need to drastically increases.
You do realise you just plug this thing in and jump in it every day fully charged, is not like an ICE car where you need to go to a station to refill.
So then you say how many days do most private individuals do more than 250 miles in a day, and the answer is a pretty small amount.
Electric really needs a different mindset.
Stunning looking car ! Inside & out, great video.
This was a lovely video, very imformative and felt very genuine. Ive been playing with the idea of an ipace, although my true love is the F type, this video has done a great job in showing off the great features of the ipace, although I am wondering how much more expensive electric charging will be? I guess with a charging set up at home this becomes less of a concern, but again, lovely video, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Yep spot on with everything you said. What annoys me is the green stripe on the number plates of all new EV’s!!!! Bit pointless imo
The green stripe on the number plate is not mandatory so you could ask the dealer for a normal plate or replace it yourself.
Jaguar was always a brand to bring innovation and modernity so it makes sense to focus on the EV market. Plenty of diesel SUV options in the Land Rover range
Hi Ped, you are absolutely right! EV driving needs a change of mindset, providing you put the car on charge you will always have a full “tank” so no need to ever go to the fuel station (public charge point) unless you’re going to do more than 200 miles.
The challenge for me is what can you tow with an electric car? Can you do a video on this please, there’s got to be a few caravaners or people who tow trailers from time to time in your 100K subscribers.
Need to get out more when all I first thought was will those door handles work on a severe frosty morning ? . Agree with the conclusion overall it's just the infrastructure and price stopping volume take up
Hey Pete, we drive to south of France regularly, until the range gets to at least 500miles ( half way) I'll stick with my BMW. 60mpg average, 70 being super careful . Great vid mate 👍
You genuinely drive 500 miles without stopping?
@@Tom-ih8gr
You don't have to stop for hours.
@@Tom-ih8gr morning Tom, ofcourse we stop several times but not enough time to charge a battery.
@@Robert-cu9bm morning Robert, at this point of ev technology I would not one ,but may well do in the future.
@@iandeakin4503
I'm with you.
Who wants to stop for hours to charge.
With petrol 15mins fed and fuelled ready to go again.
And no worries that the field station won't work when you get there, or be full and have to wait for hours for others to finish fuelling.
You mentioned you need to travel to Cornwall 230 mile away in one go. If traffic is on you're side this is 4 to 5 hour driving. Do you really drive that long without a stop?
Yep 👍
@@PetrolPed Fair play you can do this. My wife and daughter have bladders the size of a mouse and need to stop every 100 miles or so. I may be able to do it if I dug deep.
Great Review as ever, I've got an almost identical I-pace as this (only difference is it's caesium blue not portofino) and although it's a fantastic point to point machine which in the real world runs rings around ICE cars...I have to say it's so incredibly soul-less that I'm left screaming for something with some noise/engagement after 4000 miles/3 months. Also it's let me down on an almost weekly basis which is simply. not good enough for a car of this price point (mine lists at £77k but is through a salary sacrifice scheme) and if I was paying anywhere near the £1000 or so a month finance figures you'd pay to walk into a dealer and buy one I'd have returned the car months ago. So incredibly frustrating as they did such a good job on the dynamics of the car....it's the usual JLR shortfalls that let it down.
Not good 😳😢
I’m sold I’d have one tomorrow in a heartbeat as time goes by the battery range is going to be better without a question but what a classic car really good video Pete really enjoyed it keep up the good work😊😎👌
Thanks 🙏🏻
I’m in the US and I have a 2019. You don’t see very many I-paces on the road here so I love the way it turns heads. Even though I have an ICE for long distance driving, I agree, I wish it had at least 300 miles of range. Another plus would be faster charging ability. Even with fast chargers you’re still looking at an hour or so to charge up.
The JLR boss said in his speech that everything will be dropped apart from Ipace and F type. Rest are being binned.
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I think that's a bit short sighted, given the fact that the F-Pace was Jaguar's biggest selling vehicle in years.
@Wooly Chewbakker They will be phased out in the same way that VW are phasing theirs out. A fully electric Jaguar line up is at least five years away. ICE vehicles will still be sold, serviced and maintained by dealers.
@Wooly Chewbakker given the fact that they don't even have a platform yet, I think that's optimistic. I hope you are right.
@Wooly Chewbakker 4.5 seconds as a 0-60 time is pretty fast to me. The original infotainment software was slow, but the 21MY cars now have Pivi-Pro, which is a significant leap forward and is much faster. This has been introduced across the range. (I have an XE and the original infotainment can occasionally be frustrating) . I believe that the I-Pace charging rate has been improved too. It is certainly not a poor EV, having won countless awards but there's definitely room for improvement. I agree that poaching software engineers from Tesla might help, but I think that Tesla went overboard using the screen for everything, including opening the glove box, plus Tesla's build quality is pretty poor.
Totally agree with you. The I-Pace is the best EV out there, however I won’t be buying one anytime soon. If the battery casing gets damaged it’s a £30k repair bill and none of the manufacturers do affordable battery swaps which means when the battery needs replacing, they will become scrap.
Great video. Sold me on an electric vehicle, but as you stated and we all know in then next few years Tesla is the only proposition. So how much longer for the model Y in the uK ?
I wish I knew
Good review Ped that colour wheels combination does look great I would love an iPace they look superb and 4x4 is a bonus. Just have to wait till the price comes down
Nice car but £65000 starting price before any extras specked is far too expensive.
Schnauzers look like they are also fans of the I pace. Lovely dogs.
They sure are 👍
For what it costs, it needs to be touching 300 miles as a range.
Exactly. Even though you shouldn’t drive more than 250ish in one go it still needs to have a range of 300+
Yep 👍
I agree that for the price of this vehicle it needs to be able to exceed 300 miles without a drama. 220 on full charge is Renault Zoe 50 range. And that is a much more affordable in every aspect.
@@PetrolPed Agreed. We're a 1 car family, so it needs to do everything! We holiday all over the UK but mostly to West Wales, Yorkshire and North/South Devon. Living in Chester this is around 80 miles, 120 miles and 240 miles.
The other problem is cost. Of course I could get a cheap Leaf (24kwh), but that would even mean a charge part way to Porthmadog. I could just about plump to an Ioniq 28kwh, which is very efficient but would leave at least one extra charge to get to South Devon! The infrastructure terrifies me, not the amount of chargers but those that work! So I either go for a PHEV or wait till the price of an E-Niro or Kona gets a lot lower! But then I'm dealing with lack of battery warranties!
I've always owned cars but it looks like the future for me is, 2nd cars on PCP!
OMG!
@@computerbob06 every service on the motorway will have 2 reliable chargers by the end of summer - see ecotricity / gridserve announcement. Later will see 6 350kw chargers too.
.......and I thought you'd been out stockpiling the wood for next winter! To be honest, I sort of like it, being able to see ahead of the next bend.
They won’t sell many cars in Australia. They don’t sell many now, but only electric!!
Nice review again. Lovely car, just that range issue as you say. It’ll be interesting to see where the Q4/ID4/Enyaq sit in the mix, quoting 300 miles plus, but real world probably somewhere around the 250 mark. Still a way to go to tempt us out of ICE but we’re getting closer with each iteration.
Lovely car Pete but not for me as l have no chance to home charge.
I've had an EV for 3 months with no home charger. Can rapid charge at my supermarket for 15 quid while I'm shopping or leave it overnight at a free destination charger a short jog away. 1200 miles, only spent 15 quid on electric.
Looks great, but £74,000 in top specification! Decent EV's are just too expensive for most people.
I enjoyed watching the Video. I remember you reviewing the I Pace when It first came out.
Hi Jamie 🙋♂️
Beautiful interior 😍. Just a bit more range and better charging infrastructure and I’m in 👍
Good points ! One other ; it needs to be half price, to make it affordable to the motoring masses . Out of 1000 potential car buyers , who’s got £70,000 upwards , to buy one ?!
Yep 👍
That’ll be a Tesla then :)
Jaguar going all electric by 2025 will must be the final nail in their coffin. No six cylinder XF is another reason for their downfall.
Just watched an Irish test of the Skoda RS Octavia, the 200 hp diesel is the cheapest version. The combination of range/ price and frugality means diesel is still the best for most choice.
Here in the US, they only offer the HSE trim for 2022 starting around $70k. And it also qualifies for a $7500 federal tax credit.
TFI Friday. Spot on review!!! Have a safe weekend all!!
Cheers Justin 👍
The psychology at work here interests me. Running a petrol-powered car in the winter, I think nothing of running two heated seats and heated steering wheel all the time. The power comes from a source which is replenished by the same unit which moves it down the road. But with EVs, would I be trying to go without, to compromise on heat in order to get max range. Possibly. And £80k or whatever to then have to compromise?
I fully expect the UK Gov in the next couple of years to announce that they’re moving the goalposts (witness the Tesla owners with older houses who are already reporting issues with their house wiring) when it becomes clear (and it will) that 2030 isn’t achievable and it risks becoming a political issue. And where that leaves Jaguar if they commit fully, I don’t know...
Bear in mind that if the Gov DON’T sort the infrastructure, then critical mass won’t be achieved because people won’t buy EVs. And the whole thing will unravel.
I'm not a betting man, but I'd put a three-figure bet on 2025 not happening. It's just typical corporate deceit.
If only the lottery would pick my numbers then I would have a I-Pace in a shot, beautiful looking car.
Thanks I enjoy your videos. This is a superb car, only hope they bring out a baby Ipace.
Would it be much of a problem to stop en-route to Cornwall for maybe a pee and or a cuppa and simply do a splash and dash, a 15minute charge would put in about 30miles which would be more than enough to complete your journey.
This is from somebody who has a MGZs Ev with around 130mile range. However I agree with a 90kwh battery it ought to do more range.
How many people actually drive long distances on a regular basis? We have trains and planes. I haven't remote charged my EV in over a year.
Good review and your view on range would be warranted if it was an issue everyday for work, but for occasional trips a bit further then it is not. If it is a morning start leave without breakfast and stop a few hours to recharge yourself and the car. Also my misses said Mrs PP will soon be wanting more regular stops rather than door to door journey as she gets older 🤫. We moved from a 500mile range Ghibli to the I-Pace, nice not to be smelling of fuel on your shoes from a dirty forecourt.
Mrs PP doesn’t do patience 😂
For the vast majority of people, the range should not be an issue, because they would be charging it every few days at home from their own charging port. Realistically, apart from a couple of UK holidays a year, this would be easy to live with for me. The UK charging infrastructure is improving daily, so the range anxiety issue should cease to exist over the next couple of years.
We love our i-Pace which is all the car we need 95% of the time. Despite what some people say about EV's the i-Pace is really good fun to drive. More range will come over time as technology advances but major improvements are required to get multiple rapid charging stations built on all the main arterial routes. We can make it from north of Glasgow to London with two charge stops (as long as we then get a full overnight charge) but due to faulty (take a bow Ecotricity) or busy chargers we have had to stop up to 5 times and that just becomes a pain. It also eats up 4 hours or more which is not good enough.
That would lead to a divorce in our household 😂
Interesting vid tonight,really enjoyed it.By coincidence I had my first drive in a ev today and was very pleasantly surprised.It was an e-golf,did around 30 miles,very smooth,very quiet and very quick.
Good aren’t they 👍
Great quality review Pete. Very enjoyable as always.
Cheers Darren 👍
I was very much going doing the Tesla route to replace a range rover had reservations around build quality and finding an affordable replacement with comparable features to a RR L405 SE. The I-Pace seems to be a more closer match. The range may be an issue living in Cornwall it's a long way to visit family up in the lakes. I will be wandering over to the local dealers this weekend. Brilliant and useful review.
Nice spec and love that you didn’t edit out the child lock part! That was funny and oh so easy to do. 👍🏻🍻🇨🇦