I would personally buy the Model 3 I live in the U.S. with worse charging infrastructure than in Western Europe. I travel far distances often and the Tesla Supercharger network would be a game changer. The Model 3 long range with 18-inch aero wheels would be my choice.
Ipace is useless without fast charging network like Tesla's. It's also extremely inefficient getting only 230 miles from a 90kwh battery where model 3 gets 310 miles from 75kwh. I would like to see someone attempt to drive from Los Angeles to Las Vegas in an ipace, if it's even possible. In my model 3 it's fast and easy. Would have liked to see efficiency, software and safety compared as Tesla's unparalleled in these catagories.
I'd pick the Tesla. A long list of reasons, but the main ones would be the design(both interior and exterior), over the air update improvements, and the potential of full self driving when it comes online with a software update. I also happen to love the company and wish to support them if i can. I like the way they provide a 3 step solution to clean renewable energy, and the way they innovate.
Both are cool but I’ve been hearing jaguar dealerships have no idea how to deal with the first all electric ipace. For Tesla electric is their specialty. So I’d go with the model 3
The WhatCar Real Range Test seems to somehow get far less range from all Tesla EVs than all other tests that I have seen. Just ask the current owners and there is no way the I-Pace has a longer range than a Tesla in the real world.
The I Pace I had on test did 220 miles easily on a mix of town and A road with usual 60 mile range remaining...Tesla 3 I had on test 245 miles with 20 showing as remaining..so not a lot in it
@@alanwayte1688 Electric car range is so dependent on variables that you really have to do a very careful controlled experiment to show anything meaningful. I can make my model 3 last 400 miles and I can make it last 200, easily.
Oh my god talk about stating the obvious....I actually have driven both....there is nothing between them in the real world...What Car has a reputation for unbiased testing...live with it....
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
Something is very wrong in your review. I highly doubt your range for the Model 3. I have never gotten less than 280 miles on a full charge even when driving for extended periods at 75 MPH or greater. Granted my 3 is a LR, not performance, but I have the 19" sticky tyres, and am known to have a heavy foot. Also you failed to show that the I-Pace back seat headroom is severely compromised in the middle limiting it to 4 adults, while the Model 3's can fit five. We have traveled over 600 miles with 3 adults in the back and got no complaints.
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto the website, they don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
"Something is very wrong in your review. I highly doubt your range for the Model 3. I have never gotten less than 280 miles on a full charge" Perhaps there was something wrong with the specific unit that was tested. Wouldn't be a huge wonder.
I dove 380 km in my I-Pace the other day. At speeds under 100 km/h it's actually remarkably efficient even compared to my old Model S. When speed picks up though the disadvantage in aerodynamics compared to the Tesla's makes more of a difference
@@EdvardHolst "At speeds under 100 km/h" - LOL. Yes, any EV's range can be increased significantly by driving it slowly. Model 3 has been hypermiled to nearly 1000km by driving it around a track at a snail's pace. One uses drivecycles for a reason - so that all vehicles are tested in the same manner. And whether that's NEDC, WLTP, or EPA (US06+HWFET), I-Pace and Model 3 aren't even close to each other (the former having dramatically less range than the latter).
I also tested an IPace for a week. When the weather was 25 degrees I took it from Bham to London and bk. So actually, I too got similar results. Remarkable considering Jag is a quarter the size of Tesla (by sales) and this is their first go at an EV.
@@EdvardHolst this is good to know, I'd say 90% of my driving is under 100km/h and sadly much of it averaging more like 20km/h. Though I think Tesla has the right idea with the superchargers when you need to do longer distance and that is what will sway me to Tesla. Let's be realistic, Jag will probably use Tesla batteries and charging network in less than a decade, as will most other manufacturers, so the playing field will level out. Until then, Tesla is leading the way on the technology and steadily catching up on build quality.
In response to all those that say he’s biased and pro the British Jaguar : 1. Jaguar is not British - it’s owned by Tata (Indian) 2. The I pace is made in Austria, not U.K 3. If you bother watching to the end - he recommends the Tesla over the I Pace. You are correct that his range seems wrong, along with service costs.
@Jonathan Young I think that in 20 years you'll be able to get a Tesla with a degraded battery for very very cheap but it will still be a great car for shorter range use. Think perfect car to buy your high schooler.
@Jonathan Young Unless you have owned some pretty quick cars, the S+ is still likely to be quicker/faster and have better performance than anything else you have owned. That's one of the best things about the Model 3. Even the base versions are quick and fun!
@Jonathan Young Haha, yeah, the 2020 roadster is going to be absolutely insane. I went for the AWD model. Have some pretty nasty winters in the midwest. I couldn't convince myself (of my wife :-P) to want to go for the performance package for the extra cost. But ALL of the Model 3 trims are quick. Pre-welcome to the club. ;-)
Thanks for a nice and generally balanced review. There are however 2 MAJOR untruths. 1) Teslas are definitely NOT more expensive to service. They don't require regular service at all. I've paid less than £40 in maintenance for my Model S 85D during the last 3.5 years. Pollen filter + Windshield wipers. That's it. You won't find a cheaper car in its class or any class for that matter. 2) The range of the Model 3 Performance (even with the 20" wheels) is MUCH superior to the I-Pace. At least 30 percent better in real life scenarios, whether in the wet or warm/dry conditions. The I-Pace is a nice EV, but the range is so far from its rated range it's not even funny. That and it can only do up to 7kW AC charging. How do I know? I own a Model S 85D and a Model 3 Performance. My brother in law owns the I-Pace HSE. We've done plenty of testing and comparing and often exchange cars.
I appreciate that you are trying to give him the benefit of the doubt... But the bias was obvious, my man... He was not "balanced" at all here... Go back to 0:45 and watch for 5 seconds... All you need to know is said there.
Balanced? Really??? 45 seconds in and he declares the I-pace the best EV, BEFORE reviewing it and that's what you call "balanced"?!? LMAO... What you need is not "balance", it's OBJECTIVITY. The Tesla Model 3 is objectively far superior to the I-Pace on about every metric, except maybe interior luxury level. And even that is entirely subjective and a matter of taste and opinion.
The best EV you can buy LOST to my KIA Soul 30kwh EV costing me £20k new. Simply watch a race between I-pace and Soul. I-Pace lost as it is inefficient and charges the same speed as 90% other much cheaper EVs. Having 50% more energy usage makes it 33% slower on any journey above 500km (after depleting the initial charge)
Big Disappointment: Where's the drag race v. IPace?? Nah, didn't think so. The Model 3 DMP will eat that Jag for breakfast , lunch and dinner and about every other car you Brits have, including the Astons, etc.
When considering acceleration, Model 3 Performance is really at the heels of hypercars and Model S Performance mops the floor with the very best from Ferrari - SF90 Stradale I think?
@@alexnutcasio936 The McLaren 720S is only slightly quicker than the Model 3 Performance. The difference in standing start acceleration is not very much. First hand experience. The Steyr-Magna (not Jaguar) built iPace isn't even near a Model 3 Performance in any performance metric, including acceleration, handling and energy efficiency.
I didn't get that either. Your PHONE is your key. That card is in case you've lost your phone, you want to loan your car to a friend, or you're handing your car over to the valet.
@@blueblood2555 ikr..... It's just a key to verify that you're eligible for driving the car or not.... And not a physical key that you put in the keyhole and have to keep it there all the time.
@@dzerres "I didn't get that either. Your PHONE is your key." No, the CARD is a key too. Model 3 has two different keys: the phone of the owner and the card. The user can use whichever he wants. Both are inconvenient in their own way. It would have been easy to make the card more convenient to use, as can be seen in the video.
My boss has a ipace and i have a model 3. We drove feom Amsterdam to austria. Started together with full charge but he had to stop much sooner to charge then me. And it took him much longer to charge. The ipace is not suitable for long distance travel. Perfect car for every day use. After this trip he wished he got a model 3. Forgot to mention ipace has only one fase ac charging.
geez, to get 239 miles from a model 3p you must have been driving it like a crazy person, not a single other m3p has done that. Your entire review is called into question because of that. Bad form.
Not necessarily. I've driven 27,000 miles in a P3D and averaged 330wh/mile. Thats about a 230mile range. Cold weather, heavy 20" wheels, and highway driving above 70mph hurt the efficiency. Don't make the mistake of assuming the Performance model will go as far as the other trims with smaller, lighter wheels.
As a caveat, there are weather conditions where moderately conservative driving will get you the full range in the P3D, but in the midwestern united states those days seem more uncommon than common.
Stephen Hoffman is right. I have a P3D- (18"wheels) and it's pretty damn easy to turn electrons into thrills rather than miles. Also cold weather seems to cut the range by a huge amount, and the effect starts to become apparent under 60F.
@9.15..... grrrrr... the glass roof follows the exterior contours!!! Yet another journalist perpetuating the myth that panoramic roofs reduce headroom. On the contrary, in most situations there is going to be more headroom when a panoramic roof is present.
It's not a complete myth but in my experience it only affects headroom around the edges / frame of a glass roof, where internally it can reduce headroom significantly enough for me to be uncomfortable. I'm 6'4" and I notice this a lot as a passenger in taxis with pan roofs. Ironically, I have more headroom in an everyday Uber Prius with a glass roof than without, so no clue what they did there 😁
RandomShart clearly if you add traditional headliner below the exterior roof sheet metal, then the head room is reduced by thar thickness. When the exterior contour “is” the glass logic tells us there is going to be more headroom.
@@eurouc yes I think the reviewers confuse it with traditional pan roof. Directly under the glass you have headroom but around the edges there's typically an inch plus of liner that doesn't exist on the same model with standard roof. If there's no longer a liner at all then it's just like any car, check your have headroom before you buy it.
Incorrect about the key card. You tap the card to allow starting and moving. But it’s like a hotel key. You don’t need to leave the card there. Tap the card. Then put it in your pocket. And note the main key is your phone which in this day and age and if you are a tesla driver you will likely have a smartphone. Source; I’m an owner.
Ok your range test must be wrong... How about charging at home? 1 phase charging vs 3 phase make a big difference depending on the country you life in. Over here you will not be able to fully charge your ipace overnight making this a huge disadvantage.
Your What Car Real Range test appears to somehow produce poor results from all three Tesla models. Why do Tesla EVs do so badly in your tests? All the other range tests I have seen produce much better range from Tesla EVs and real world owners don't get such poor results. I don't accept your comment that it is because every other test involves driving slowly or gently. Bjorn Nyland just achieved a world record of over 2800km in 24 hours in a Tesla Model 3 long range at an average speed of 112km/hr. Hardly gentle driving.
My guess is its having the AC on, the M3 does not seem to be very efficient in that respect. With AC off, it would likely romp away with it. Remind me how often AC is needed in the UK? Compared to e.g. using the seat heaters, which is are more efficient than heating the air?
@@eubikedude na it's not that, the accessories have a non zero but ultimately very small difference. I put it down to these guys just being bad, when literally NO other reviewer or real world person has had these results.
@@stinger15au I hear that the heater in the model 3 is terribly inefficient. The air con is fine if cooling. However even with that the range is still terrible and the Ipace range is still amazing compared to other figures online.
From what other posts have said, their 'real world range test' consists of of driving 20-30 miles and then extrapolating the range using some dodgy math... They don't actually drive that distance. As for the aircon and heaters - based on many other reports from those in both extremely hot and extremely code regions (e.g. Bjorn and others), Tesla use the most energy efficient options for both.
Well patriotisme is not a bad thing - but how did you manage to get only 239 miles out of it when the rest of the world gets closer to 300 miles out of it at 80 mph ?
239 is not that far off the mark for what a lot of people are getting on the performance model. I think sensitivity to a colder ambient may have a much larger effect that anticipated...And England is typically somewhere between cool and cold. Anything below about 60F seems to adversely affect range, as well as regen and available power, until the battery warms up. This can be mitigated somewhat by charging right before driving. BTW I have lived with a Performance model 3 for about 10 months now and am speaking from experience.
@@johnmolloy4878 The Performance model is less efficient than the LR. Especially due to the 20" wheels. Teslabjørn just did 400 km in the SR+ thats 250 miles - however at 90 km/h. The cold doesn't really start to bite before you go lower than 50°F and only really packs a punch when freezing. I have seen a lot of consumption data for the LR and they rarely go over 250 wh/mile - that should land you 300 miles in the LR. Of course the 'operators' driving style has a lot to say and autopilot will also eat range (there is along technical explanation based on physics behind this but autopilot/cruise-control eats range). I have driven a Leaf for 35000 miles and have no problem achieving more than EPA in the summer, spring and autumn - winter is a different story though. But sure if you drive many short trips in either cold or very warm weather, it will cause a lot of secondary energy usage. But that should not be the case in a range test. I would expect the SR+ to do > 200 miles and the LR >280 miles at highway speeds with the aero hub 18" wheels in non-rainy conditions, low wind speeds and at temperatures above 50°F.
@@renebergqvist599 I've been seeing an effect below 60F, and it just gets worse from there. The S and X have active battery heaters that mitigate most of this effect, but the 3 is passive (via inverters/coolant loop back to battery). This is really going to affect owners in the Northern latitudes. I live in Texas so I'm much less affected, but I definitely saw a loss of efficiency and range last winter. My lifetime wh/mi is around 280 and I have over 13,000 miles on the car (early performance with 18"wheels and aeros - non PUP). Still absolutely love the car... Just gotta know it's limits.
@@johnmolloy4878 Well - time will tell - i have my SR+ on order and I live in Denmark... not Canadian winter cold - but it gets cold. I have survived with the Leaf which in Nordic/Canadian trim is fitted with a battery 'heating blanket' that kicks in at really low temperatures (-20°C)... sure it loses up to 30% range when it is really cold but you can pre-heat the car on the home charger and then the heatpump is fairly efficient... But EV's just don't shine in the cold. As the model 3 has a real actuve pre-heat feature as you stated - that should be better. Yor consumption figure seems very high - if you have many short trips in cold/warm conditions - that is an explanation - or you are simply enjoying the performance model ;-)
Y range test is wrong, real Tesla drivers like me, will tell you that 230 miles is bullshit. Just got 10k on mine and average 170wh/km=441 km range and i drive fast.
Yes but UK is cold and wet....real world has mix of driving..I have driven both I found Tesla did 280 with 30 showing in reserve and Jaguar 230 with 25 miles in reserve...so very little in it...the Tesla however felt from a couple of classes below the Jaguar...I think this test has been very very fair to American offering ....it’s a shame you have Trump in office as in U.K. it means anything American is seriously seriously uncool
Alan Wayte geez dude why you so rude? I mean not to be rude but you have a slight chance that your part American and I don’t think that you should say anything American is is uncool because you may use something American or just America related
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
Reading comments below! I think What Car didn’t realise how Tesla people (including myself) are so vocal about the car. This is a good review for the Tesla... guys! People spending 40k on a car are going to research it... they will know about the key and smartphone access. People who buy the iPace were always going to buy it! What Car just said BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
I replaced my Range Rover with a Model X. After my experience with JLR, I don't think I would ever consider another Jaguar Land Rover vehicle. . Public charging networks, which are very unreliable in the US, would only be necessary for the occasional road trip as long as you charge at home. Still, Tesla's supercharger network is well maintained, fast, and positioned around shopping and restaurants where you park anyway. I was leery to purchase a car from a "startup" company. But after a wonderful year with my Model X, I am now considering a Model 3 to replace another car in my garage. Having owned vehicles from both companies, it's not even a question which one I'd buy. Model 3, without hesitation.
@@anthonydayspring9923 Long story... fifteen pages worth of documentation. My first Range Rover was one service visit away from being branded as a lemon. So JLR took the car back and I was ordered a new one. While this was happening, I was without a vehicle for five months. The entire process was a nightmare, and I turned into a raging lunatic. I dealt with the Manhattan location, but they weren't the problem. I was in constant communication with JLR's main office in New Jersey. Most inept company I've ever experienced. When I finally received my replacement vehicle, it ran fine for about nine months. Then it started experiencing the same stalling issues as the first one. It was crystal clear that JLR doesn't know how to engineer a vehicle. That's when I decided to cut bait and sell it after getting it repaired. The X has been nearly problem free for 18 months. And it's an absolute joy to own.
iPace S isn't on its standard 18" wheels. Oooh is that perforated leather? Optional glass roof? Adaptive suspension? Metallic paint? Electric tailgate isn't standard on the base iPace S. What other options does it have?
So many things wrong with this video, so much bias. The Jaguar isn't being produced at anywhere near model 3 production and won't be for the forseeable future, it's a an expensive farce since there's cheaper alternatives that offer more for a lot less. Also if you don't have the performance model 3, it's still quicker and costs even less with even more range. Your bias is showing in several segments. This is the the last video I will watch from this channel as you are omitting relevant facts and lie about others. Omitting: you talk about the heated steering wheel and front seats but don't mention the model 3 has heated seats, even in the back... Didn't mention the audio system which is far superior in the tesla. Didn't say to much about security system, didn't really go into safety test since Tesla dominates presumably. Also omitting the epa range, which tells a very different story, so do all the people who have ridden them. Lies: range, which I find very important, as do most. The long segment about the key card, that's lying to potential buyers, in pretending it's an issue. You did after that there was a solution, that's partly why the segment is a lie, that's like saying the spare key for when the batteries run out in modern key fobs is standard and the electric opening is a solution. The intention is to use a smartphone and use the card only for a valet or when you borrow the car out, the smartphone it's not a solution it's the standard key. The amount of time spent on this non issue is misleading and the way it's brought is equal to lying. The model costs more to service? They changed they service plan so there's less services planned, also where are the numbers? You claim things without backing them up. Electric cars have a lot less moving parts when driving, so service isn't even required for the most part, must have forgotten to add that in your real world practicality bs story.
@@Wirmish Yeah, because we watch videos on judging objects we might buy to get influenced mainly by what the reviewers got for reviewing the items. NOT actual facts or a real comparison between the things we are trying to make a choice between.
If the iPace was such a great car there would be a long delay in getting your hands on one. But no in the UK many Jaguar dealers have them sitting in stock - seems no demand for them or returned cars from customers fedup with all the software faults
Your comments about the Tesla’s key card and many others things including service cost, etc. clearly let us views know you really don’t know much about the Tesla. It’s hard to watch this review and get a fair idea about the Tesla’s true attributes regardless of who it is compared against.
The legacy manufacturers are years behind. There hasn't been a EV made that challenges the 2012 Model S. The legacy manufacturers have finally recognized they are years behind and are teaming up together to try to catch up to Tesla. The latest joint venture is Ford and VW.
I'm sure the Jaguar dealerships will up the price and the service schedules but Tesla are saying you don't need to have it serviced that often, just tire rotation. Also the main key for the car is your phone and the card is a emergency backup. Dog mode, sentry mode and over air updates. Performance model means your real world test was better than Tesla expected. Ipace is good step for the Jaguar brand but should not be compared to a mass produced car.
Not quite understanding your sponsorship versus what you are reviewing. I clicked on your link, ask for a Tesla, and it came back with "Sorry no results found" (I didn't think it would because you keep mentioning "dealers" and Tesla has no dealers). When I bought my Tesla I ordered it via the Tesla webpage and some young dude drove it to our house, we signed the all the papers including loan documents, he showed us the details of the car; all in about an hour and a half. Finished, he called an Uber and returned to cyberspace. No oily dealer salespeople who jack up the prices and try to pull the wool over your eyes at every turn including the loan details.
you make a big point about the adjustment of the steering wheel and mirrors in the Tesla has to be done through the big screen and thumb wheels instead of the easy to find manual adjustment in the Jaguar. but, you missed the point, the only reason you would want to adjust the steering wheel or mirrors is because multiple people might be driving it. on the Tesla, each person has their own "profile" which can be linked to the keycard or smartphone of the person that unlocked the car so, once for each driver of the car, on the steering wheel and mirror and seat position and choice of performance settings and favorite radio stations have been picked, they all automatically happen each time that driver gets into the car
You dont need to keep the card behind the cupholders you only have to tap it there when you put it in drive then you can place the card in the cupholder
I have owned my M3 for 9 months and never used card once. Only my cell phone. Just walk up to car and it's unlocked.. and it's so hard for me to drive my wifes Audi Q7 and remember I need the key fob..
The crazy thing about the tesla is there’s no start button! Or off button. So the phone works really welll. You enter and leave the car and the car sleeps on it own. And locks when you are further away.
@@ericschmidt1987 Actually it's the start button that's crazy, including on fossil cars. :) There was nothing wrong with starting a fossil car by turning the key. The start button came from race cars that have no key. It's silly on street cars that have a key. Added cost and less efficient function in the name of style.
So let me get this straight - every car company says they can produce an EV with better fit and finish and lower cost than Tesla but the only thing they're willing to concede is that Tesla has superior battery/BMS/motor tech because they've been doing this for a decade now... and yet somehow you managed to eek out more range on the I-Pace than it's EPA rating of 234 miles (you got 253). In the Tesla you got 239 miles while the EPA rating is 310 miles for combined city/highway. You therefor have a positive delta for the Ipace of 8.1% and and a negative delta for the Model 3 of 22.9%. You ran 20" wheels on the Ipace!!! There is no way in hell you got 253 miles on the IPace on a single charge unless you were on a 253 mile downhill grade drafting behind a semi half the time. if the same driver is driving both vehicles then we can conclude that either your driver (the host) was driving the vehicles with different driving styles (one was aggressive while the other was feather peddled), driving under different circumstances (one had AC AND HEAT running while the other had no HVAC running), one of the cars had a defect (ie a really bad tow in or bad camber), or that all 3 of the EPA/NEDC/WLTP rating agencies are complete rubbish (there's an English word for you to you keep you chaps happy, Americans would call it BS) and What Car knows how to do a controlled study better than these testing agencies. Occam's razor would lend us to the conclusion that What Car is either incompetent at testing or heavily biased and making stuff up to fit the narrative. Please, if you're going to start off saying at the 45 second mark that the IPace is the best EV that money can buy you have lost all credibility. The new MB EQC beats the Ipace for the same price and nearly the same class. If you have the money the Model X is significantly more "car" for the money. The one thing I really liked on the IPace (I drove one for 2 days) was the offroading ability which is significantly better than a Model 3 (obviously) and slightly better than the Model X. If there's any reason to get an Ipace it would be for people who live in an area with frequent mudslides or who do mild off roading. Most SUVs I see here in LA never see anything worse than the gravel in our potholes so 95% of drivers here only use their vehicles on the road. And yet your review didn't even bother to demonstrate that. Pathetic.
A Tesla with less range then the I-pace? How did you achieve that? Weather you drive at high, or low speed doesn't matter, it won't even come close near in either, even the 2012 Tesla's beat the Jaguar easely.
These are two completely different classes of car. Yeah they're electric, but that's about it. Kinda like saying a Porsche 911 turbo is comparable to a BMW X5 because they both run on gas.
Well, in that case I am fine with that because here the "911" won hands down while being cheaper and more practical. Damn that Jag is an embarrassment.
Shouldn’t the i-Pace be compared to the Model X? It seems like you’re comparing Apples with Pineapples. This is local bias at best. You won’t even give the Model 3 credit on trunk space.
All you have to do is wrap the center console with a clear film (if u want to retain the gloss black look but without the fear of scratches and smudges and difficult cleaning) 👍🏼
So you are telling the ipace is the best ev to buy than the model while it costs twice the cost of model 3 and has no self driving hardware pre-installed. Why would you adjust the steering wheel on the move ? Not all phones has wireless charging. Panoramic roof is what makes the headroom better .
15:20 - Do you really think you're supposed to leave the key card set on a smooth surface while you drive? Even if you use the keycard (which most people never do, we use our smart phones) you just tap the card behind the cup holder and then put it away.
@@TheSlideshowtube The key card is a backup. The main method is with a smart phone. I walk up to the car and just open the door and drive away. No tapping a card or even pressing a button.
Looked at both the Model 3 and the I-Pace, then rented the I-Pace for a week and then bought the I-Pace. First off, the build quality of the Jaguar simply is a lot better than on the Model 3, both on the outside as well as the inside. I don't think that is a very subjective statement and most people who look closely at both cars will agree. Second, I think the I-Pace is a much better looking car than the Model 3. That, of course, IS subjective and is very personal. I live in the Netherlands where you will see a lot of Model 3's (best selling car in 2019 actually), which, in my view at least, make it a bit like the VW Golf of EV's. Nice for Tesla, but I like to drive something different than just about every sales rep around. Have had the I-Pace now for six months and am very happy with it. Got it in November 2019 and am now at 12K miles with zero problems. With the weather getting warmer this month (May 2020), my range at 100% SoC has now improved to around 450 km (280 miles). That's well ABOVE the EPA-rating of 234 miles btw. Average consumption has dropped from my initial 22-24 kWh/100 km in December/January to around 18.5 kWh/100 km in May. However, with the C19-crisis there are very little traffic jams, so driving is more relaxed and that probably helps. Have had ZERO issues with the car, no squaks or rattles, very quiet and comfortable. Am very happy I choose the I-Pace. The Model 3 certainly is a good car and I can understand owners are happy with it, but it just doesn't do much for me.
Tesla's approach to the model 3 is looking forward to when car sharing becomes the standard. It is that reason that drives the interior and the way you interact with the car as a whole. Since EVERYTHING has to be done from the screen, you can then control everything and place limits on what you can do and how much of it you get. That way people who use your car on a sharing service, can be limited to only certain functions of the car.
When I listen to the audio of this review I notice some sections were added later. I think after editing the overall opinion was so much in favor of the Tesla you had to throw in some extra positive bits for the Jag. The only real flaw is the range comparison. Drive an i-Pace and a Model 3 London to Edinburgh and back... The Model 3 will be home sooooo much sooner!
Yeah I do that quite a lot. 😂 A diesel car would be even quicker of course 😊 I'm going to buy an ipace because I want something for mostly local use but can do longer journeys comfortably. I am going to have to live with the slow charging and reduced range - it's a choice which won't affect me day to day but I will enjoy being in it so much more when we do short trips! Tesla is a great car with much better efficiency though just a bit generic nowadays. The fart noise is another downer but I'll survive 🤣
The boot of the I-Pace isn't "much taller in practicality terms" than what you find int the Model 3. It might open a bit more, but it's not going to fit much taller things. So you can subtly transition from holding the suitcase *sideways* ("look how cramped this is!") next to the Model 3 to placing it *upright* ("see, lots of space here!") in the I-Pace, but no way that that lid of the I-Pace is actually able to close @ 11:49 with that suitcase standing upright..
Its like comparing a noob to a pro!😂🤣😅 The tesla has a more futuristic design, and a nicer and cooler infotainment system! PLUS, the tesla supercharger stations are a lot more than the i-pace chargers! ALSO, tesla only makes electric cars, so they are a bit more reliable in making electric cars than jaguar! The i-pace seems more dark and not futuristic! ALSO, it's a British car, and British cars are bad in my opinion!!!😊🤗🚗🚘🚗🚘
The thing about the key card position for driving, is that it is only necessary until you press the brake, and select D. Then the key card can be replaced into your wallet or purse. I myself have sprung for the cost of the Tesla Model 3 fob, which gives me full authority even if my phone is not on my person or I have forgotten to power it up coming from a meeting where phones are to be off. The fob stays in my pocket and I prefer to use it when in public places from my pocket to assure myself that the car has locked. It does lock on walk-away but I walk fast, and looking back to see the mirror fold has occurred is too annoying in most car parks. So tapping the fob top once gives me the reassuring sound and sight of the mirrors folding as I begin my walk to the shops.
Re the USB cable routing. Not all phones are wireless charging compatible (ie any phone with a metal back to it) so it's actually a good bit of design on Tesla's part I think.
I have no idea how you got such poor range numbers out of your Model 3. I have had mine for a year now, and during spring, summer, fall I am getting just about the rated range, and I am not alone -- there are several apps many of us use that aggregate data from all users. My current efficiency is 95% (that is, 95% of the EPA rated 325 mile range), however that is lower than the average, with most people getting just around 100%, and many getting even better than EPA. So, uh, might want to check your testing methodology.
Any Tesla allows you to save custom settings for multiple drivers by name. You only have to make all adjustments just once, except for the rear view mirror. Even your preferred air conditioning vent settings are saved for each driver. It’s not a big deal that it involves more steps to adjust things, because you only do it once. There’s no way that most journalists will get this correctly, but it just upsets me.
They are both on-road 5 seat EVs. Arguably the two best EVs on sale so quite valid to compare them. No one is seriously going to by an I-Pace to go off roading.
Agreed. You can compare the ipace to the Model X (or the Model Y once that comes out). But comparing it to the Model 3 (i.e. comparing a SUV to a sedan) is just dumb. People buy these classes for entirely different reasons. No one goes: "I want a sedan because my user profile is optimal for a sedan...hold on: maybe I should look at SUVs, too!" (or vice versa)
Overall a good review but some glaring oddness at the same time. Range. Obvious one, something isn't right there as you can go watch any other range test and your tests are waaaaay off. For example Quentin Wilson just did a range test on UK roads just a few days ago and starting with the battery at 302 miles range, drove "100 miles" at motorway speeds (70-80mph he says) and arrived with 194 miles of range left (aka 108 mile range drop). A quick calculation says the Tesla stated 329 mile range would equal 302 miles of real range at that usage rate - and that's at UK motorway speeds even and not the more efficient, slower town driving speeds. This matches up with real world usage across hundreds of similar videos all over UA-cam as well... The "key". Sigh. Those are the emergency keys for when your phone is dead/lost/forgotten. Pop it in your wallet (hence why it's credit card sized...) and forget about it. Your phone acts as keyless entry through paired bluetooth and unlocks the car as you walk towards it. Service costs. Jaguar say to service the car every 2 years/21k miles. They'll sell you a 3 year service pack for £1000 to give you some idea of that cost. Jag (or any traditional dealerships) make more money on the services than selling the actual cars. They HAVE to make money on the servicing because that's what keeps the dealership network running. Telsa servicing costs are approximately £1000 less than that (aka you don't need to do anything, not even to comply with the terms of the warranty... it's simply not needed). You should probably consider a brake fluid change every 2 years so lets count that. My local garage does those for £50. As the Jag service pack is over 3 years lets call that £75 for the 3 years for the Tesla. By your logic (assuming tyre costs etc are broadly the same) £1000 is somehow less than £75. What numbers did you use?
@@LoanwordEggcorn I wouldnt go that far, but its getting better. Lexus is still the benchmark and Tesla is NOT there (yet). As to insurance, they are all expensive in that price range. Delivery issues are also being resolved. Not bad for a company that delivered its first car in 2012.
@@alexnutcasio936 Insurance costs may vary with region. Here in the U.S. some Tesla insurance is relatively low cost. The Model 3 is one of the safest cars on the road as measured by both U.S. and E.U. government (crash and safety function) testing, and some of the insurance companies are starting to price insurance appropriately less. I suspect in the U.K. Teslas are still somewhat of a novelty and insurance companies don't have much data for them, but long term, the insurance costs should be *less* not more, due to the superior active and passive safety. There are many real world examples of Teslas automatically avoiding crashes, including many videos on UA-cam. Model 3 had the lowest probability of injury in a crash of any car tested by the U.S government, followed by the Tesla Model S and X. All other cars sold in the U.S. have a higher probability of injury. The recent EU crash test results were similar, but EU included active safety (crash avoidance) in their tests also. P.S. I said Toyota quality, which is also high, not Lexus, which is a bit higher. But you should check out recent Teslas. The panel gaps and paint are at least as good as BMW. They are not as good as Mercedes, Audi. Lexus, but getting nearer. In terms of driving experience, user interface, automation, Tesla is superior to all. Drive one.
Grizzy Bear you got me. I see that now BUT, nearly everything reviewed are items that are equal like trunk space, range, screen settings, etc. Only difference with mine is speed and wheel size and I can say my speed is phenomenal and the performance is only a bit quicker. His assessments are very skewed
We bought a Model 3 and it was such a stunning car in terms of driving dynamics, range, performance, convenience and cost of ownership that we bought another one a few months later. Both have been perfect and a real joy to own and drive.
You completely forgot to test the navigation. Will the Jaguar I-Pace navigate thru charging stations if I want to navigate to a destination too far to reach with my state of charge in the battery? Hows the billing of the available chargers, do Jaguar offer any kind of support for just plugging into the charging stations and automatic billing, as the Tesla does? Because it's a huge pain to drive for example to Portugal with an electric car, without any planning - if it's not a Tesla since every bloody charging provider has their own cars, chips, apps etc.
Test drove the Model 3 performance and ordered it, then test drove the I-Pace and bought one. It is bigger, more ground clearance so I don't scrap the ground in driveway, and with air suspension raises for mild off road driving. I charge at home and have pickup truck with camper, so do not use it for long trips.
With all due respect! Hands-down the model 3 is the better value! I’ve driven my Tesla model 3, dual motor, extended range battery pack, premium infotainment system, upgraded premium wheels & interior & I can tell you that the car has far exceeded all of my expectations! Also with over the air updates & I have received several but the last one allows me to use voice command to control most functions to include changing the position of the outside mirrors! Also I happen to like the piano finish on the consul & I have no problem with the backseats because I don’t sit there! LOL! Can’t wait for the full self driving update which is supposed to be coming soon! So I did give you 2 thumbs 👍🏾👍🏾 up for content & quality & I think you for posting the video!👌
@@HarvestMoonRadio exactly. haha i have a model 3 and if you close it normally it works and most of the stuff he says on here is bs the quick controls are super easy to use. trick is to put your fingers in the back of the screen and touch them with your thumb so it doesn't move when your driving
I love Model 3 for interior simplicity. It is true, once you're in a habit of driving Tesla, you don't feel like driving any other car. Too many buttons, confuses everyone.
Laughable range test.... not just a little off, but vastly less than my real world experience with city commuting, winter mountain driving, and two extended (3000 mile winter and 4500 mile summer) road trips. Also, it never occurred to you to put the key card in the cup holder? And don’t you have a phone? The key card is for the service center, tire shop, or valet. Never listening to Whatcar again... incompetence personified. Btw, nothing against the Jag. Find me a charging network in the western US and it’s an option...
Best electric car you can buy? The i-Pace? Hole on a minute junior. Take a couple deep breaths and try to remember the Tesla Model S. So unless you are going to set a price bracket here, you are going to have to face the reality that the i-Pace isn't anywhere close to the specifications of the Model S. Good video overall though. As to what I would choose, I voted with my pocket book in 2015.
Hey as far as I'm concerned the fart feature is worth every penny of the car. Im sold. I hope there is a volume control for that. My mother in law will never forgive me hahahahaha. Cant wait
It was like you were trying as hard as possible to make the case for the Jaguar for the first 24 minutes, focusing on niche negative things, not mentioning anything about autopilot or other active safety features unique to the Model 3 and then..... the Tesla is better. Probably best to be unbiased from the outset, rather than leading with the Jaguar is the best premium electric vehicle, which it isn't by any metric.
One day you will realise people want real unbiased reviews and not sponsored reviews from little more than some manufacturers mouthpieces to make their cars sound wonderful. Most EV manufacturers have long waiting lists, for some reason you won't have mentioned many Jaguar dealers have iPaces in stock. Even now the iPAce suffers from software problems and as for Over The Air updates - well forget it if you bought an iPace. Did you mention the CCS charging problems the iPAce has? Get real and try and do your job uninfluenced by outside sources.
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
Thought this was a really good review, commendably thorough. I initially rolled my eyes that the two cars should even be compared, given the different size classes and that the pricing matches a top-spec Model 3 vs an entry-level I-Pace. But if the smaller Tesla actually has *more* cargo volume than the Jag, I guess it is just about a valid comparison. That said, the WhatCar real-world range test remains a bit of a head-scratcher for me. Several of the cars tested perform very differently to owner experiences that I've seen elsewhere, and these two cars are particularly illustrative of that.
To be fair the CCS charging problems being reported on iPaces are generally old rapid chargers not able to handshake with the car. Tesla's are reporting the same fault on these old chargers - but then Tesla's have their own chargers so you don't rely on the public charging so much. One owner recently picked up his Tesla in Edinburgh and did a tour of Scotland using public CCS chargers without a problem. Not sure I would attempt the same in an iPace.
Oh forgot a good report 8/10 agreed about mileage rds etc you will always get some one who says different to those people every rd is different and day it’s not on a research track keep up the good work tesla
I had model 3 performance for over a year and than got a chance to drive I pace she model. I was sold in first 10 min of driving. I traded my honda civic on steroids in and love my I pace to this day.
Forget the speed, can anyone of those do off roading?? Because here in India, we don't have roads, we have off roads 👊😂... I am also curious what will be legendary questions that Indians gonna ask ? Like for petrol car, it was "Kitna deti hai?" One time, my friend went to Harley showroom, his dad asked, "kya...deti kitna hai ye?" 👊😂
Hello, not owning an electric car yet but becoming a big fan... I gave you a thumbs down on your review based on the comments left by most viewers. The Majority that I've read speak highly of the Tesla Model 3 in most categories and on mileage driven per charge. Something's not adding up here? Greg
Which car would you choose if you had to buy one with your own money, the Tesla or Jaguar? Let us know below!
I would personally buy the Model 3 I live in the U.S. with worse charging infrastructure than in Western Europe. I travel far distances often and the Tesla Supercharger network would be a game changer. The Model 3 long range with 18-inch aero wheels would be my choice.
Ipace is useless without fast charging network like Tesla's. It's also extremely inefficient getting only 230 miles from a 90kwh battery where model 3 gets 310 miles from 75kwh. I would like to see someone attempt to drive from Los Angeles to Las Vegas in an ipace, if it's even possible. In my model 3 it's fast and easy. Would have liked to see efficiency, software and safety compared as Tesla's unparalleled in these catagories.
I'd pick the Tesla. A long list of reasons, but the main ones would be the design(both interior and exterior), over the air update improvements, and the potential of full self driving when it comes online with a software update. I also happen to love the company and wish to support them if i can. I like the way they provide a 3 step solution to clean renewable energy, and the way they innovate.
Both are cool but I’ve been hearing jaguar dealerships have no idea how to deal with the first all electric ipace. For Tesla electric is their specialty. So I’d go with the model 3
Tried both. Choose the Tesla.
Been driving an AWD model 3 for 25k miles, something undoubtedly is wrong with your range test.
The WhatCar Real Range Test seems to somehow get far less range from all Tesla EVs than all other tests that I have seen. Just ask the current owners and there is no way the I-Pace has a longer range than a Tesla in the real world.
The I Pace I had on test did 220 miles easily on a mix of town and A road with usual 60 mile range remaining...Tesla 3 I had on test 245 miles with 20 showing as remaining..so not a lot in it
@@alanwayte1688 Electric car range is so dependent on variables that you really have to do a very careful controlled experiment to show anything meaningful. I can make my model 3 last 400 miles and I can make it last 200, easily.
Oh my god talk about stating the obvious....I actually have driven both....there is nothing between them in the real world...What Car has a reputation for unbiased testing...live with it....
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
Something is very wrong in your review. I highly doubt your range for the Model 3. I have never gotten less than 280 miles on a full charge even when driving for extended periods at 75 MPH or greater. Granted my 3 is a LR, not performance, but I have the 19" sticky tyres, and am known to have a heavy foot. Also you failed to show that the I-Pace back seat headroom is severely compromised in the middle limiting it to 4 adults, while the Model 3's can fit five. We have traveled over 600 miles with 3 adults in the back and got no complaints.
Yes but I Pace is American build quality...so liable to fall apart very quickly...
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto the website, they don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
lane johnson Recommend usable battery NOT usable battery. So your math is skewed.
"Something is very wrong in your review. I highly doubt your range for the Model 3. I have never gotten less than 280 miles on a full charge"
Perhaps there was something wrong with the specific unit that was tested. Wouldn't be a huge wonder.
My father has an I Pace and he's never been even close to the 400+km you claim, whether he's done long or short distance driving. I call bs.
The Model X Standard Range is more efficient and goes further than the i-Pace ... and Model 3 is even more efficient than the X ...
I dove 380 km in my I-Pace the other day. At speeds under 100 km/h it's actually remarkably efficient even compared to my old Model S. When speed picks up though the disadvantage in aerodynamics compared to the Tesla's makes more of a difference
@@EdvardHolst "At speeds under 100 km/h" - LOL. Yes, any EV's range can be increased significantly by driving it slowly. Model 3 has been hypermiled to nearly 1000km by driving it around a track at a snail's pace.
One uses drivecycles for a reason - so that all vehicles are tested in the same manner. And whether that's NEDC, WLTP, or EPA (US06+HWFET), I-Pace and Model 3 aren't even close to each other (the former having dramatically less range than the latter).
I also tested an IPace for a week. When the weather was 25 degrees I took it from Bham to London and bk. So actually, I too got similar results. Remarkable considering Jag is a quarter the size of Tesla (by sales) and this is their first go at an EV.
@@EdvardHolst this is good to know, I'd say 90% of my driving is under 100km/h and sadly much of it averaging more like 20km/h. Though I think Tesla has the right idea with the superchargers when you need to do longer distance and that is what will sway me to Tesla.
Let's be realistic, Jag will probably use Tesla batteries and charging network in less than a decade, as will most other manufacturers, so the playing field will level out. Until then, Tesla is leading the way on the technology and steadily catching up on build quality.
In response to all those that say he’s biased and pro the British Jaguar :
1. Jaguar is not British - it’s owned by Tata (Indian)
2. The I pace is made in Austria, not U.K
3. If you bother watching to the end - he recommends the Tesla over the I Pace.
You are correct that his range seems wrong, along with service costs.
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
Can you share how the Model 3 costs more to service than I-Pace? Never seen this data anywhere....
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
I-pace paid this fucker
Great question. This is a repeat of the Top Gear bullshit. No real information.
That's because it doesn't exist. They do recommend a brake inspection and filter changes every 2 years or so.
James Irwin At the Tesla store in Australia they've never repaired a car after 4 years!
The card is not the main key. It’s for guests and valets. Your phone is your main key, and you can have a key fob if you want. Poorly informed video.
Also if you unlock doors with the key and start driving within 30(?) seconds then you don't have to tap the card again!
Only with respect to that one thing, the vid is generally well aquainted with EVs.
Thanks for the info
The video also covers the app.
To me a regular LR AWD would be such a better buy than the Ipace and you pocket $20k
@Jonathan Young I think that in 20 years you'll be able to get a Tesla with a degraded battery for very very cheap but it will still be a great car for shorter range use. Think perfect car to buy your high schooler.
@Jonathan Young Unless you have owned some pretty quick cars, the S+ is still likely to be quicker/faster and have better performance than anything else you have owned. That's one of the best things about the Model 3. Even the base versions are quick and fun!
@Jonathan Young Haha, yeah, the 2020 roadster is going to be absolutely insane.
I went for the AWD model. Have some pretty nasty winters in the midwest. I couldn't convince myself (of my wife :-P) to want to go for the performance package for the extra cost. But ALL of the Model 3 trims are quick. Pre-welcome to the club. ;-)
Thanks for a nice and generally balanced review. There are however 2 MAJOR untruths.
1) Teslas are definitely NOT more expensive to service. They don't require regular service at all. I've paid less than £40 in maintenance for my Model S 85D during the last 3.5 years. Pollen filter + Windshield wipers. That's it. You won't find a cheaper car in its class or any class for that matter.
2) The range of the Model 3 Performance (even with the 20" wheels) is MUCH superior to the I-Pace. At least 30 percent better in real life scenarios, whether in the wet or warm/dry conditions. The I-Pace is a nice EV, but the range is so far from its rated range it's not even funny. That and it can only do up to 7kW AC charging. How do I know? I own a Model S 85D and a Model 3 Performance. My brother in law owns the I-Pace HSE. We've done plenty of testing and comparing and often exchange cars.
I appreciate that you are trying to give him the benefit of the doubt... But the bias was obvious, my man... He was not "balanced" at all here... Go back to 0:45 and watch for 5 seconds... All you need to know is said there.
Balanced? Really??? 45 seconds in and he declares the I-pace the best EV, BEFORE reviewing it and that's what you call "balanced"?!? LMAO... What you need is not "balance", it's OBJECTIVITY. The Tesla Model 3 is objectively far superior to the I-Pace on about every metric, except maybe interior luxury level. And even that is entirely subjective and a matter of taste and opinion.
Are you kidding? “ the best EV for I pace “? Tesla x and s has been in the market more than 8 years, and still better than any i pace
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
British really love their cars :D
Need to wait for a Commonweatlh's company to buy Tesla and then UK's boys will love Tesla...
@@vladimirtalijan most British cars, save for the McLaren's are pretty much junk!!
The best EV you can buy LOST to my KIA Soul 30kwh EV costing me £20k new. Simply watch a race between I-pace and Soul.
I-Pace lost as it is inefficient and charges the same speed as 90% other much cheaper EVs.
Having 50% more energy usage makes it 33% slower on any journey above 500km (after depleting the initial charge)
Big Disappointment: Where's the drag race v. IPace?? Nah, didn't think so. The Model 3 DMP will eat that Jag for breakfast , lunch and dinner and about every other car you Brits have, including the Astons, etc.
When considering acceleration, Model 3 Performance is really at the heels of hypercars and Model S Performance mops the floor with the very best from Ferrari - SF90 Stradale I think?
@@RiseAgainstTheDevilAndGod Bingo, Joshua speaketh the truth!! Even the 720S has a tough time beating a Model S P100D Raven in the qtr mile.
@@alexnutcasio936 The McLaren 720S is only slightly quicker than the Model 3 Performance. The difference in standing start acceleration is not very much. First hand experience.
The Steyr-Magna (not Jaguar) built iPace isn't even near a Model 3 Performance in any performance metric, including acceleration, handling and energy efficiency.
Is your house at the start of a drag strip?. How often are you going to be drag racing.
@@Robert-cu9bm Stop Light to Stoplight!! Happens all the time. Some Jag in a Jag always wants to race!!
Comparing a saloon to an SUV!? Yes that makes sense...
I've been in many saloons and yes, an SUV is different than any bar I've ever been in......
Unfortunately, at the moment only Tesla make saloons - the 'established' companies all went with SUVs
"The solution for this is the smartphone key" 🤦♂️🤦♂️
That card is for emergencies or if you want to lend your car........ That *IS* the "S0lUTi0N".
I didn't get that either. Your PHONE is your key. That card is in case you've lost your phone, you want to loan your car to a friend, or you're handing your car over to the valet.
Drones on about the limitations of the "spare key". Glosses over the superiority of the "master key."
@@qiX2wf48 Totally agreed
@@blueblood2555 ikr..... It's just a key to verify that you're eligible for driving the car or not.... And not a physical key that you put in the keyhole and have to keep it there all the time.
@@dzerres "I didn't get that either. Your PHONE is your key."
No, the CARD is a key too. Model 3 has two different keys: the phone of the owner and the card. The user can use whichever he wants. Both are inconvenient in their own way. It would have been easy to make the card more convenient to use, as can be seen in the video.
My boss has a ipace and i have a model 3. We drove feom Amsterdam to austria. Started together with full charge but he had to stop much sooner to charge then me. And it took him much longer to charge. The ipace is not suitable for long distance travel. Perfect car for every day use. After this trip he wished he got a model 3. Forgot to mention ipace has only one fase ac charging.
oebydoeby Did you drive to Austria to see Max win the F1 GP?
@@hidekikomine1388 ja. Was de reis meer dan waard.
Now do same journey with two bikes in the back. LOL
Tesla is better choice for fast charging and a better infotainment 🤓
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Yep, downside is any repairs.
geez, to get 239 miles from a model 3p you must have been driving it like a crazy person, not a single other m3p has done that. Your entire review is called into question because of that. Bad form.
Not necessarily. I've driven 27,000 miles in a P3D and averaged 330wh/mile. Thats about a 230mile range. Cold weather, heavy 20" wheels, and highway driving above 70mph hurt the efficiency. Don't make the mistake of assuming the Performance model will go as far as the other trims with smaller, lighter wheels.
As a caveat, there are weather conditions where moderately conservative driving will get you the full range in the P3D, but in the midwestern united states those days seem more uncommon than common.
Stephen Hoffman is right. I have a P3D- (18"wheels) and it's pretty damn easy to turn electrons into thrills rather than miles. Also cold weather seems to cut the range by a huge amount, and the effect starts to become apparent under 60F.
They're lying. Just like every other corporate-sponsored "reviewer".
@9.15..... grrrrr... the glass roof follows the exterior contours!!! Yet another journalist perpetuating the myth that panoramic roofs reduce headroom. On the contrary, in most situations there is going to be more headroom when a panoramic roof is present.
It's not a complete myth but in my experience it only affects headroom around the edges / frame of a glass roof, where internally it can reduce headroom significantly enough for me to be uncomfortable. I'm 6'4" and I notice this a lot as a passenger in taxis with pan roofs. Ironically, I have more headroom in an everyday Uber Prius with a glass roof than without, so no clue what they did there 😁
RandomShart clearly if you add traditional headliner below the exterior roof sheet metal, then the head room is reduced by thar thickness. When the exterior contour “is” the glass logic tells us there is going to be more headroom.
@@eurouc yes I think the reviewers confuse it with traditional pan roof. Directly under the glass you have headroom but around the edges there's typically an inch plus of liner that doesn't exist on the same model with standard roof. If there's no longer a liner at all then it's just like any car, check your have headroom before you buy it.
Incorrect about the key card. You tap the card to allow starting and moving. But it’s like a hotel key. You don’t need to leave the card there. Tap the card. Then put it in your pocket.
And note the main key is your phone which in this day and age and if you are a tesla driver you will likely have a smartphone.
Source; I’m an owner.
Eric Schmidt are you the google person 😳
Actually, you don't even need to tap the card at all if you select 'drive' (or reverse) within a minute or so of entry.
Ok your range test must be wrong...
How about charging at home? 1 phase charging vs 3 phase make a big difference depending on the country you life in. Over here you will not be able to fully charge your ipace overnight making this a huge disadvantage.
The review is generally very well made, balanced and enjoyable, but there's something seriously wrong/unrealistic in your range testing procedure.
Seriously!
@@Wirmish Someone has to believe their revenue biased reviews
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
Your What Car Real Range test appears to somehow produce poor results from all three Tesla models. Why do Tesla EVs do so badly in your tests? All the other range tests I have seen produce much better range from Tesla EVs and real world owners don't get such poor results. I don't accept your comment that it is because every other test involves driving slowly or gently. Bjorn Nyland just achieved a world record of over 2800km in 24 hours in a Tesla Model 3 long range at an average speed of 112km/hr. Hardly gentle driving.
My guess is its having the AC on, the M3 does not seem to be very efficient in that respect. With AC off, it would likely romp away with it. Remind me how often AC is needed in the UK? Compared to e.g. using the seat heaters, which is are more efficient than heating the air?
@@eubikedude na it's not that, the accessories have a non zero but ultimately very small difference. I put it down to these guys just being bad, when literally NO other reviewer or real world person has had these results.
@@stinger15au I hear that the heater in the model 3 is terribly inefficient. The air con is fine if cooling. However even with that the range is still terrible and the Ipace range is still amazing compared to other figures online.
From what other posts have said, their 'real world range test' consists of of driving 20-30 miles and then extrapolating the range using some dodgy math... They don't actually drive that distance.
As for the aircon and heaters - based on many other reports from those in both extremely hot and extremely code regions (e.g. Bjorn and others), Tesla use the most energy efficient options for both.
Well patriotisme is not a bad thing - but how did you manage to get only 239 miles out of it when the rest of the world gets closer to 300 miles out of it at 80 mph ?
They didn't. That was an extrapolation based on a single, non-controlled, very short drive. Worst "range test" in the history of range tests.
239 is not that far off the mark for what a lot of people are getting on the performance model. I think sensitivity to a colder ambient may have a much larger effect that anticipated...And England is typically somewhere between cool and cold. Anything below about 60F seems to adversely affect range, as well as regen and available power, until the battery warms up. This can be mitigated somewhat by charging right before driving. BTW I have lived with a Performance model 3 for about 10 months now and am speaking from experience.
@@johnmolloy4878 The Performance model is less efficient than the LR. Especially due to the 20" wheels.
Teslabjørn just did 400 km in the SR+ thats 250 miles - however at 90 km/h.
The cold doesn't really start to bite before you go lower than 50°F and only really packs a punch when freezing.
I have seen a lot of consumption data for the LR and they rarely go over 250 wh/mile - that should land you 300 miles in the LR.
Of course the 'operators' driving style has a lot to say and autopilot will also eat range (there is along technical explanation based on physics behind this but autopilot/cruise-control eats range).
I have driven a Leaf for 35000 miles and have no problem achieving more than EPA in the summer, spring and autumn - winter is a different story though.
But sure if you drive many short trips in either cold or very warm weather, it will cause a lot of secondary energy usage. But that should not be the case in a range test.
I would expect the SR+ to do > 200 miles and the LR >280 miles at highway speeds with the aero hub 18" wheels in non-rainy conditions, low wind speeds and at temperatures above 50°F.
@@renebergqvist599 I've been seeing an effect below 60F, and it just gets worse from there. The S and X have active battery heaters that mitigate most of this effect, but the 3 is passive (via inverters/coolant loop back to battery). This is really going to affect owners in the Northern latitudes. I live in Texas so I'm much less affected, but I definitely saw a loss of efficiency and range last winter. My lifetime wh/mi is around 280 and I have over 13,000 miles on the car (early performance with 18"wheels and aeros - non PUP). Still absolutely love the car... Just gotta know it's limits.
@@johnmolloy4878 Well - time will tell - i have my SR+ on order and I live in Denmark... not Canadian winter cold - but it gets cold. I have survived with the Leaf which in Nordic/Canadian trim is fitted with a battery 'heating blanket' that kicks in at really low temperatures (-20°C)... sure it loses up to 30% range when it is really cold but you can pre-heat the car on the home charger and then the heatpump is fairly efficient... But EV's just don't shine in the cold.
As the model 3 has a real actuve pre-heat feature as you stated - that should be better.
Yor consumption figure seems very high - if you have many short trips in cold/warm conditions - that is an explanation - or you are simply enjoying the performance model ;-)
Y range test is wrong, real Tesla drivers like me, will tell you that 230 miles is bullshit. Just got 10k on mine and average 170wh/km=441 km range and i drive fast.
Can confirm. I have 6000km on mine and average exactly 170Wh/km.
Your not saying a Tesla model 3 is terrible, are you?
Yes but UK is cold and wet....real world has mix of driving..I have driven both I found Tesla did 280 with 30 showing in reserve and Jaguar 230 with 25 miles in reserve...so very little in it...the Tesla however felt from a couple of classes below the Jaguar...I think this test has been very very fair to American offering ....it’s a shame you have Trump in office as in U.K. it means anything American is seriously seriously uncool
Alan Wayte geez dude why you so rude? I mean not to be rude but you have a slight chance that your part American and I don’t think that you should say anything American is is uncool because you may use something American or just America related
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
Reading comments below! I think What Car didn’t realise how Tesla people (including myself) are so vocal about the car. This is a good review for the Tesla... guys! People spending 40k on a car are going to research it... they will know about the key and smartphone access. People who buy the iPace were always going to buy it! What Car just said BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
I replaced my Range Rover with a Model X. After my experience with JLR, I don't think I would ever consider another Jaguar Land Rover vehicle. . Public charging networks, which are very unreliable in the US, would only be necessary for the occasional road trip as long as you charge at home. Still, Tesla's supercharger network is well maintained, fast, and positioned around shopping and restaurants where you park anyway. I was leery to purchase a car from a "startup" company. But after a wonderful year with my Model X, I am now considering a Model 3 to replace another car in my garage. Having owned vehicles from both companies, it's not even a question which one I'd buy. Model 3, without hesitation.
DoubleClutchOnline what experience did you have? Which location ?
@@anthonydayspring9923 Long story... fifteen pages worth of documentation. My first Range Rover was one service visit away from being branded as a lemon. So JLR took the car back and I was ordered a new one. While this was happening, I was without a vehicle for five months. The entire process was a nightmare, and I turned into a raging lunatic. I dealt with the Manhattan location, but they weren't the problem. I was in constant communication with JLR's main office in New Jersey. Most inept company I've ever experienced. When I finally received my replacement vehicle, it ran fine for about nine months. Then it started experiencing the same stalling issues as the first one. It was crystal clear that JLR doesn't know how to engineer a vehicle. That's when I decided to cut bait and sell it after getting it repaired. The X has been nearly problem free for 18 months. And it's an absolute joy to own.
iPace S isn't on its standard 18" wheels.
Oooh is that perforated leather? Optional glass roof? Adaptive suspension? Metallic paint? Electric tailgate isn't standard on the base iPace S.
What other options does it have?
Right? Thats clearly not the base ipace at 66k
So many things wrong with this video, so much bias.
The Jaguar isn't being produced at anywhere near model 3 production and won't be for the forseeable future, it's a an expensive farce since there's cheaper alternatives that offer more for a lot less. Also if you don't have the performance model 3, it's still quicker and costs even less with even more range.
Your bias is showing in several segments.
This is the the last video I will watch from this channel as you are omitting relevant facts and lie about others.
Omitting: you talk about the heated steering wheel and front seats but don't mention the model 3 has heated seats, even in the back... Didn't mention the audio system which is far superior in the tesla. Didn't say to much about security system, didn't really go into safety test since Tesla dominates presumably. Also omitting the epa range, which tells a very different story, so do all the people who have ridden them.
Lies: range, which I find very important, as do most. The long segment about the key card, that's lying to potential buyers, in pretending it's an issue. You did after that there was a solution, that's partly why the segment is a lie, that's like saying the spare key for when the batteries run out in modern key fobs is standard and the electric opening is a solution. The intention is to use a smartphone and use the card only for a valet or when you borrow the car out, the smartphone it's not a solution it's the standard key. The amount of time spent on this non issue is misleading and the way it's brought is equal to lying.
The model costs more to service? They changed they service plan so there's less services planned, also where are the numbers? You claim things without backing them up. Electric cars have a lot less moving parts when driving, so service isn't even required for the most part, must have forgotten to add that in your real world practicality bs story.
Tesla should have offered gifts to testers...
_"The model costs more to service?"_
Especially since at Tesla checkups are optional and do not affect the warranty.
@@Wirmish Yeah, because we watch videos on judging objects we might buy to get influenced mainly by what the reviewers got for reviewing the items.
NOT actual facts or a real comparison between the things we are trying to make a choice between.
If the iPace was such a great car there would be a long delay in getting your hands on one. But no in the UK many Jaguar dealers have them sitting in stock - seems no demand for them or returned cars from customers fedup with all the software faults
Your comments about the Tesla’s key card and many others things including service cost, etc. clearly let us views know you really don’t know much about the Tesla. It’s hard to watch this review and get a fair idea about the Tesla’s true attributes regardless of who it is compared against.
He's a Pillock, thinks you have to leave the card there....oof..... He seems against it very early on. Whiny as well
The legacy manufacturers are years behind. There hasn't been a EV made that challenges the 2012 Model S. The legacy manufacturers have finally recognized they are years behind and are teaming up together to try to catch up to Tesla. The latest joint venture is Ford and VW.
I'm sure the Jaguar dealerships will up the price and the service schedules but Tesla are saying you don't need to have it serviced that often, just tire rotation. Also the main key for the car is your phone and the card is a emergency backup. Dog mode, sentry mode and over air updates. Performance model means your real world test was better than Tesla expected. Ipace is good step for the Jaguar brand but should not be compared to a mass produced car.
Especially since at Tesla checkups are optional and do not affect the warranty.
Not quite understanding your sponsorship versus what you are reviewing. I clicked on your link, ask for a Tesla, and it came back with "Sorry no results found" (I didn't think it would because you keep mentioning "dealers" and Tesla has no dealers). When I bought my Tesla I ordered it via the Tesla webpage and some young dude drove it to our house, we signed the all the papers including loan documents, he showed us the details of the car; all in about an hour and a half. Finished, he called an Uber and returned to cyberspace. No oily dealer salespeople who jack up the prices and try to pull the wool over your eyes at every turn including the loan details.
you make a big point about the adjustment of the steering wheel and mirrors in the Tesla has to be done through the big screen and thumb wheels instead of the easy to find manual adjustment in the Jaguar.
but, you missed the point, the only reason you would want to adjust the steering wheel or mirrors is because multiple people might be driving it.
on the Tesla, each person has their own "profile" which can be linked to the keycard or smartphone of the person that unlocked the car
so, once for each driver of the car, on the steering wheel and mirror and seat position and choice of performance settings and favorite radio stations have been picked, they all automatically happen each time that driver gets into the car
It wasn't worth talking about.
_That is what the Jaguar representative said..._
My 2006 volvo has this feature, Tesla hasn't really discovered the wheel here.
Woah that’s cool. Thanks for teaching me something new about Tesla.
You dont need to keep the card behind the cupholders you only have to tap it there when you put it in drive then you can place the card in the cupholder
Yes. No harder than pressing the start button on the jag ... which you don't even need to do on the M3 once the phone is used.
I have owned my M3 for 9 months and never used card once. Only my cell phone. Just walk up to car and it's unlocked.. and it's so hard for me to drive my wifes Audi Q7 and remember I need the key fob..
Most Model 3 drivers use the phone app for automatic access and almost never use the key card.
The crazy thing about the tesla is there’s no start button! Or off button. So the phone works really welll. You enter and leave the car and the car sleeps on it own. And locks when you are further away.
@@ericschmidt1987 Actually it's the start button that's crazy, including on fossil cars. :) There was nothing wrong with starting a fossil car by turning the key.
The start button came from race cars that have no key. It's silly on street cars that have a key. Added cost and less efficient function in the name of style.
Maintenance and reliability issues ? for Model 3 ?? ...hmm..How does that explain the most satisfied and happy car owners ever?
"If you have a slightly bigger budget, then the iPace is the best electric car you can buy."
Apart from the Model S, Model X, and Model 3 you mean?
I have driven both of them, and ordered the Tesla . Best car I have ever driven .
0:45 Jaguar I-Pace, if you have a slightly bigger pocket, this is the BEST electric car that you can buy (wait...whaaaa???!!)
Yeah, his bias was clear in the very first minute of this video.
I stopped watching the video at the 0:48 already knowing the conclusion.
So let me get this straight - every car company says they can produce an EV with better fit and finish and lower cost than Tesla but the only thing they're willing to concede is that Tesla has superior battery/BMS/motor tech because they've been doing this for a decade now... and yet somehow you managed to eek out more range on the I-Pace than it's EPA rating of 234 miles (you got 253). In the Tesla you got 239 miles while the EPA rating is 310 miles for combined city/highway. You therefor have a positive delta for the Ipace of 8.1% and and a negative delta for the Model 3 of 22.9%. You ran 20" wheels on the Ipace!!! There is no way in hell you got 253 miles on the IPace on a single charge unless you were on a 253 mile downhill grade drafting behind a semi half the time.
if the same driver is driving both vehicles then we can conclude that either your driver (the host) was driving the vehicles with different driving styles (one was aggressive while the other was feather peddled), driving under different circumstances (one had AC AND HEAT running while the other had no HVAC running), one of the cars had a defect (ie a really bad tow in or bad camber), or that all 3 of the EPA/NEDC/WLTP rating agencies are complete rubbish (there's an English word for you to you keep you chaps happy, Americans would call it BS) and What Car knows how to do a controlled study better than these testing agencies.
Occam's razor would lend us to the conclusion that What Car is either incompetent at testing or heavily biased and making stuff up to fit the narrative. Please, if you're going to start off saying at the 45 second mark that the IPace is the best EV that money can buy you have lost all credibility. The new MB EQC beats the Ipace for the same price and nearly the same class. If you have the money the Model X is significantly more "car" for the money.
The one thing I really liked on the IPace (I drove one for 2 days) was the offroading ability which is significantly better than a Model 3 (obviously) and slightly better than the Model X. If there's any reason to get an Ipace it would be for people who live in an area with frequent mudslides or who do mild off roading. Most SUVs I see here in LA never see anything worse than the gravel in our potholes so 95% of drivers here only use their vehicles on the road. And yet your review didn't even bother to demonstrate that. Pathetic.
A Tesla with less range then the I-pace? How did you achieve that? Weather you drive at high, or low speed doesn't matter, it won't even come close near in either, even the 2012 Tesla's beat the Jaguar easely.
Model3 - and by the way, the card is for emergency start only.
These are two completely different classes of car. Yeah they're electric, but that's about it.
Kinda like saying a Porsche 911 turbo is comparable to a BMW X5 because they both run on gas.
Well, in that case I am fine with that because here the "911" won hands down while being cheaper and more practical. Damn that Jag is an embarrassment.
Shouldn’t the i-Pace be compared to the Model X? It seems like you’re comparing Apples with Pineapples. This is local bias at best. You won’t even give the Model 3 credit on trunk space.
Drove I-pace, crazy fast. Excellent interior and real leather , no vinyl. The problem is that this sport utility vehicle that lacks utility.
All you have to do is wrap the center console with a clear film (if u want to retain the gloss black look but without the fear of scratches and smudges and difficult cleaning) 👍🏼
Can't watch this whole thing. So much FUD. Stop spreading it.
So you are telling the ipace is the best ev to buy than the model while it costs twice the cost of model 3 and has no self driving hardware pre-installed.
Why would you adjust the steering wheel on the move ?
Not all phones has wireless charging.
Panoramic roof is what makes the headroom better .
15:20 - Do you really think you're supposed to leave the key card set on a smooth surface while you drive? Even if you use the keycard (which most people never do, we use our smart phones) you just tap the card behind the cup holder and then put it away.
STill an inferior system to a fob which doesnt have to be tapped against things.
@@TheSlideshowtube The key card is a backup. The main method is with a smart phone.
I walk up to the car and just open the door and drive away. No tapping a card or even pressing a button.
Looked at both the Model 3 and the I-Pace, then rented the I-Pace for a week and then bought the I-Pace.
First off, the build quality of the Jaguar simply is a lot better than on the Model 3, both on the outside as well as the inside. I don't think that is a very subjective statement and most people who look closely at both cars will agree.
Second, I think the I-Pace is a much better looking car than the Model 3. That, of course, IS subjective and is very personal.
I live in the Netherlands where you will see a lot of Model 3's (best selling car in 2019 actually), which, in my view at least, make it a bit like the VW Golf of EV's. Nice for Tesla, but I like to drive something different than just about every sales rep around.
Have had the I-Pace now for six months and am very happy with it. Got it in November 2019 and am now at 12K miles with zero problems. With the weather getting warmer this month (May 2020), my range at 100% SoC has now improved to around 450 km (280 miles). That's well ABOVE the EPA-rating of 234 miles btw.
Average consumption has dropped from my initial 22-24 kWh/100 km in December/January to around 18.5 kWh/100 km in May. However, with the C19-crisis there are very little traffic jams, so driving is more relaxed and that probably helps.
Have had ZERO issues with the car, no squaks or rattles, very quiet and comfortable. Am very happy I choose the I-Pace. The Model 3 certainly is a good car and I can understand owners are happy with it, but it just doesn't do much for me.
That's a 2020 model?? HMMM?? what's the 10th digit of the Vin#??
Tesla's approach to the model 3 is looking forward to when car sharing becomes the standard. It is that reason that drives the interior and the way you interact with the car as a whole. Since EVERYTHING has to be done from the screen, you can then control everything and place limits on what you can do and how much of it you get. That way people who use your car on a sharing service, can be limited to only certain functions of the car.
Car sharing will never become a standard, stop dreaming.
When I listen to the audio of this review I notice some sections were added later. I think after editing the overall opinion was so much in favor of the Tesla you had to throw in some extra positive bits for the Jag. The only real flaw is the range comparison. Drive an i-Pace and a Model 3 London to Edinburgh and back... The Model 3 will be home sooooo much sooner!
Yeah I do that quite a lot. 😂
A diesel car would be even quicker of course 😊
I'm going to buy an ipace because I want something for mostly local use but can do longer journeys comfortably. I am going to have to live with the slow charging and reduced range - it's a choice which won't affect me day to day but I will enjoy being in it so much more when we do short trips! Tesla is a great car with much better efficiency though just a bit generic nowadays. The fart noise is another downer but I'll survive 🤣
The boot of the I-Pace isn't "much taller in practicality terms" than what you find int the Model 3. It might open a bit more, but it's not going to fit much taller things. So you can subtly transition from holding the suitcase *sideways* ("look how cramped this is!") next to the Model 3 to placing it *upright* ("see, lots of space here!") in the I-Pace, but no way that that lid of the I-Pace is actually able to close @ 11:49 with that suitcase standing upright..
exactly!
Its like comparing a noob to a pro!😂🤣😅 The tesla has a more futuristic design, and a nicer and cooler infotainment system! PLUS, the tesla supercharger stations are a lot more than the i-pace chargers! ALSO, tesla only makes electric cars, so they are a bit more reliable in making electric cars than jaguar! The i-pace seems more dark and not futuristic! ALSO, it's a British car, and British cars are bad in my opinion!!!😊🤗🚗🚘🚗🚘
Highland Life I know! but I'm addicted to it!!!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😎😎😎😚
The thing about the key card position for driving, is that it is only necessary until you press the brake, and select D. Then the key card can be replaced into your wallet or purse. I myself have sprung for the cost of the Tesla Model 3 fob, which gives me full authority even if my phone is not on my person or I have forgotten to power it up coming from a meeting where phones are to be off.
The fob stays in my pocket and I prefer to use it when in public places from my pocket to assure myself that the car has locked. It does lock on walk-away but I walk fast, and looking back to see the mirror fold has occurred is too annoying in most car parks. So tapping the fob top once gives me the reassuring sound and sight of the mirrors folding as I begin my walk to the shops.
Re the USB cable routing. Not all phones are wireless charging compatible (ie any phone with a metal back to it) so it's actually a good bit of design on Tesla's part I think.
I have no idea how you got such poor range numbers out of your Model 3. I have had mine for a year now, and during spring, summer, fall I am getting just about the rated range, and I am not alone -- there are several apps many of us use that aggregate data from all users. My current efficiency is 95% (that is, 95% of the EPA rated 325 mile range), however that is lower than the average, with most people getting just around 100%, and many getting even better than EPA. So, uh, might want to check your testing methodology.
You can tell he stayed up all night trying to find negative things about the Model 3
Any Tesla allows you to save custom settings for multiple drivers by name. You only have to make all adjustments just once, except for the rear view mirror. Even your preferred air conditioning vent settings are saved for each driver. It’s not a big deal that it involves more steps to adjust things, because you only do it once. There’s no way that most journalists will get this correctly, but it just upsets me.
Center console visibly flexes like a flimsy piece of plastic
"you can see it's pretty sturdy as well"
LoL
Exactly what I thought 😂😂😂😂
On long trips, I switch my 3 to CHILL mode and get noticable range improvement but less smiles per mile... haha
Of course Tesla, no need to compare lol
sorry, you should not compare these two cars. This is like compering Bmw 3 with X3, pointless in my opinion
Why not? Their the only two decent electric cars on the market right now (excluding x and s)
They are both on-road 5 seat EVs. Arguably the two best EVs on sale so quite valid to compare them. No one is seriously going to by an I-Pace to go off roading.
Agreed. You can compare the ipace to the Model X (or the Model Y once that comes out). But comparing it to the Model 3 (i.e. comparing a SUV to a sedan) is just dumb. People buy these classes for entirely different reasons. No one goes: "I want a sedan because my user profile is optimal for a sedan...hold on: maybe I should look at SUVs, too!" (or vice versa)
Agree! Compare model Y when it comes out. Also, why use Performance model for comparison, use LR M3, much cheaper and much better, IMHO
I considered both of these when I was looking for an electric car so why not?
Tesla model 3 for the win
Overall a good review but some glaring oddness at the same time.
Range. Obvious one, something isn't right there as you can go watch any other range test and your tests are waaaaay off. For example Quentin Wilson just did a range test on UK roads just a few days ago and starting with the battery at 302 miles range, drove "100 miles" at motorway speeds (70-80mph he says) and arrived with 194 miles of range left (aka 108 mile range drop). A quick calculation says the Tesla stated 329 mile range would equal 302 miles of real range at that usage rate - and that's at UK motorway speeds even and not the more efficient, slower town driving speeds. This matches up with real world usage across hundreds of similar videos all over UA-cam as well...
The "key". Sigh. Those are the emergency keys for when your phone is dead/lost/forgotten. Pop it in your wallet (hence why it's credit card sized...) and forget about it. Your phone acts as keyless entry through paired bluetooth and unlocks the car as you walk towards it.
Service costs.
Jaguar say to service the car every 2 years/21k miles. They'll sell you a 3 year service pack for £1000 to give you some idea of that cost. Jag (or any traditional dealerships) make more money on the services than selling the actual cars. They HAVE to make money on the servicing because that's what keeps the dealership network running.
Telsa servicing costs are approximately £1000 less than that (aka you don't need to do anything, not even to comply with the terms of the warranty... it's simply not needed). You should probably consider a brake fluid change every 2 years so lets count that. My local garage does those for £50. As the Jag service pack is over 3 years lets call that £75 for the 3 years for the Tesla.
By your logic (assuming tyre costs etc are broadly the same) £1000 is somehow less than £75. What numbers did you use?
WhatCar mickey mouse numbers 😀
Shame about the a) insurance costs, b) delivery logistics, c) parts, d) paint quality e) build quality f) repair costs, and lack of PCP ..
If you're referring to Tesla, the current Tesla build quality and paint quality is on par with BMW and Toyota.
Yeah, sounds like a Jaguar (Tata) alright.
@@LoanwordEggcorn I wouldnt go that far, but its getting better. Lexus is still the benchmark and Tesla is NOT there (yet). As to insurance, they are all expensive in that price range. Delivery issues are also being resolved. Not bad for a company that delivered its first car in 2012.
@@alexnutcasio936 Insurance costs may vary with region. Here in the U.S. some Tesla insurance is relatively low cost. The Model 3 is one of the safest cars on the road as measured by both U.S. and E.U. government (crash and safety function) testing, and some of the insurance companies are starting to price insurance appropriately less.
I suspect in the U.K. Teslas are still somewhat of a novelty and insurance companies don't have much data for them, but long term, the insurance costs should be *less* not more, due to the superior active and passive safety. There are many real world examples of Teslas automatically avoiding crashes, including many videos on UA-cam.
Model 3 had the lowest probability of injury in a crash of any car tested by the U.S government, followed by the Tesla Model S and X. All other cars sold in the U.S. have a higher probability of injury. The recent EU crash test results were similar, but EU included active safety (crash avoidance) in their tests also.
P.S. I said Toyota quality, which is also high, not Lexus, which is a bit higher. But you should check out recent Teslas. The panel gaps and paint are at least as good as BMW. They are not as good as Mercedes, Audi. Lexus, but getting nearer. In terms of driving experience, user interface, automation, Tesla is superior to all. Drive one.
You haven’t seen the Facebook group of pissed off owners, I guess.
Thin paint, badly cured, coming off already.
I have the same AWD m3. Lol this is a piss poor review in many areas
Grizzy Bear No. AWD long Range like what he’s reviewing
Grizzy Bear you got me. I see that now BUT, nearly everything reviewed are items that are equal like trunk space, range, screen settings, etc. Only difference with mine is speed and wheel size and I can say my speed is phenomenal and the performance is only a bit quicker. His assessments are very skewed
We bought a Model 3 and it was such a stunning car in terms of driving dynamics, range, performance, convenience and cost of ownership that we bought another one a few months later. Both have been perfect and a real joy to own and drive.
You completely forgot to test the navigation. Will the Jaguar I-Pace navigate thru charging stations if I want to navigate to a destination too far to reach with my state of charge in the battery?
Hows the billing of the available chargers, do Jaguar offer any kind of support for just plugging into the charging stations and automatic billing, as the Tesla does? Because it's a huge pain to drive for example to Portugal with an electric car, without any planning - if it's not a Tesla since every bloody charging provider has their own cars, chips, apps etc.
TM3 hands down.
Test drove the Model 3 performance and ordered it, then test drove the I-Pace and bought one. It is bigger, more ground clearance so I don't scrap the ground in driveway, and with air suspension raises for mild off road driving. I charge at home and have pickup truck with camper, so do not use it for long trips.
With all due respect! Hands-down the model 3 is the better value! I’ve driven my Tesla model 3, dual motor, extended range battery pack, premium infotainment system, upgraded premium wheels & interior & I can tell you that the car has far exceeded all of my expectations! Also with over the air updates & I have received several but the last one allows me to use voice command to control most functions to include changing the position of the outside mirrors! Also I happen to like the piano finish on the consul & I have no problem with the backseats because I don’t sit there! LOL! Can’t wait for the full self driving update which is supposed to be coming soon! So I did give you 2 thumbs 👍🏾👍🏾 up for content & quality & I think you for posting the video!👌
"We only had a for a few days" This car from NL has been in almost every review in NL and the UK.
That'd be why they only had it for a few days then! 🤣
@@DanLMH Yeah, but they were talking about scratches on the mid-console. It has been driven by so many people already...
BS as usual against Tesla. No exception here. First and last review watched here. Jaguar and "competition" are lightyears behind. Cheers
why tf you whacking the center lid calm down dude. when do you slam that ever
Yes and lets do a really slow shut to try and make it look like thats the only speed you can do it at
@@HarvestMoonRadio exactly. haha i have a model 3 and if you close it normally it works and most of the stuff he says on here is bs the quick controls are super easy to use. trick is to put your fingers in the back of the screen and touch them with your thumb so it doesn't move when your driving
I love Model 3 for interior simplicity. It is true, once you're in a habit of driving Tesla, you don't feel like driving any other car. Too many buttons, confuses everyone.
Was regenerative braking turned off on both cars?
Laughable range test.... not just a little off, but vastly less than my real world experience with city commuting, winter mountain driving, and two extended (3000 mile winter and 4500 mile summer) road trips. Also, it never occurred to you to put the key card in the cup holder? And don’t you have a phone? The key card is for the service center, tire shop, or valet. Never listening to Whatcar again... incompetence personified.
Btw, nothing against the Jag. Find me a charging network in the western US and it’s an option...
Best electric car you can buy? The i-Pace?
Hole on a minute junior. Take a couple deep breaths and try to remember the Tesla Model S. So unless you are going to set a price bracket here, you are going to have to face the reality that the i-Pace isn't anywhere close to the specifications of the Model S.
Good video overall though.
As to what I would choose, I voted with my pocket book in 2015.
Hey as far as I'm concerned the fart feature is worth every penny of the car. Im sold. I hope there is a volume control for that. My mother in law will never forgive me hahahahaha. Cant wait
No question about it, I would definitely have the Tesla.
It was like you were trying as hard as possible to make the case for the Jaguar for the first 24 minutes, focusing on niche negative things, not mentioning anything about autopilot or other active safety features unique to the Model 3 and then..... the Tesla is better.
Probably best to be unbiased from the outset, rather than leading with the Jaguar is the best premium electric vehicle, which it isn't by any metric.
The Medical Method The iPace is selling well in places where Model 3 is not available.
The front windshield of the Tesla looks strange but only from straight on. Not sure why?
Tesla requires 0 servicing...therefore it's far cheaper than any Jag...
15:20 it's meant to be operated by your phone, it will open as soon as it detects it via Bluetooth. The card is just a backup.
One day you will realise people want real unbiased reviews and not sponsored reviews from little more than some manufacturers mouthpieces to make their cars sound wonderful. Most EV manufacturers have long waiting lists, for some reason you won't have mentioned many Jaguar dealers have iPaces in stock. Even now the iPAce suffers from software problems and as for Over The Air updates - well forget it if you bought an iPace. Did you mention the CCS charging problems the iPAce has? Get real and try and do your job uninfluenced by outside sources.
Since your at it can you please compare two other cars that are in complete different classes. Maybe a Porsche 911 and a ford fiesta
But... but... both are EV !!!
I have an I-pace and I have never done more than 180 miles.
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
Thought this was a really good review, commendably thorough. I initially rolled my eyes that the two cars should even be compared, given the different size classes and that the pricing matches a top-spec Model 3 vs an entry-level I-Pace. But if the smaller Tesla actually has *more* cargo volume than the Jag, I guess it is just about a valid comparison.
That said, the WhatCar real-world range test remains a bit of a head-scratcher for me. Several of the cars tested perform very differently to owner experiences that I've seen elsewhere, and these two cars are particularly illustrative of that.
What‘s about the charging issue of the i-Pace?
R E C A L L !!!
To be fair the CCS charging problems being reported on iPaces are generally old rapid chargers not able to handshake with the car. Tesla's are reporting the same fault on these old chargers - but then Tesla's have their own chargers so you don't rely on the public charging so much. One owner recently picked up his Tesla in Edinburgh and did a tour of Scotland using public CCS chargers without a problem. Not sure I would attempt the same in an iPace.
What about self driving?
They can't mention anything that would give the edge to the Tesla, that much is obvious.
Which is BEST⁉️⁉️ Bloody hell, there are two cars involved, it's which is BETTER‼️🤨🤨🤨
Those nobs in the i-pace look so retro.... :-)
And what's with the rainbow effect on the screens and knobs? Some funny cleaner used or do they really look that weird? I couldn't use them like that.
4:42 Tesla is offering a wireless charging pad, so why are you rambling about that? 🤔
Oh forgot a good report 8/10 agreed about mileage rds etc you will always get some one who says different to those people every rd is different and day it’s not on a research track keep up the good work tesla
Smudges are not a quality issue. If that’s the case, I’d like to show you an Audi Q3 touchscreen that loves to get smudges.
I had model 3 performance for over a year and than got a chance to drive I pace she model. I was sold in first 10 min of driving. I traded my honda civic on steroids in and love my I pace to this day.
Forget the speed, can anyone of those do off roading?? Because here in India, we don't have roads, we have off roads 👊😂...
I am also curious what will be legendary questions that Indians gonna ask ? Like for petrol car, it was "Kitna deti hai?"
One time, my friend went to Harley showroom, his dad asked, "kya...deti kitna hai ye?" 👊😂
Ehmm, isn't Ipace like almost twice the price of the Tesla 3? Shows how far ahead Tesla is.
You are talking about the entry model. Only 8k difference here
Hello, not owning an electric car yet but becoming a big fan...
I gave you a thumbs down on your review based on the comments left by most viewers. The Majority that I've read speak highly of the Tesla Model 3 in most categories and on mileage driven per charge. Something's not adding up here? Greg