It's crazy to me that a place that has been accused so many times of people being held against their will, hasn't been shut down yet! And all of the reports of physical and mental abuse while being held against your will...
So good to see both of you. Thanks so much for providing solid information in a professional and succinct manner. It’s so important to understand what things were like and we give thanks you’re no longer held by that awful cult. Best wishes.
Oh Snap! Right! Miscavige would not be happy with Shelly if she told him he needed to do Scientology. No one tells Davey what to do! Another great episode Thanks Headleys!
I always love your Shelly content. Claire is my favorite. Such interesting stories. Trying not to think about the past issues with everyone, so resubscribing to you.
I love when Claire cracks herself up! 🥰 It's gotta be utter hell to be anywhere near DM today. It's heartbreaking we may never see so many again...try to hold onto hope and hug those around you. On a side note - Spy Files! Looking forward to the next one! 👍
Another cracker Mr and Mrs Headley! My heart ached for you Claire listening to all this. The abuse, the sheer craziness of it, the emotional hurt. I felt I wanted to reach through the screen and give you both a hug. It also made me wish I had the power to just walk in the int base and say "that's it, it's all over now, come with me, I'm going to look after all of you!" Just to make it all stop. One can dream.
Me too ❤❤❤ But do understand why they took step back. It's been a real barrage. I'm not sure the incessant videos attacking them is the way to go... I miss the old crew's content.
Yes, me too. Very best wishes to you. I was thinking that some people might think twice about leaving the Sea Org - go from being attacked by David Miscavige to being attacked by the disciples of ASL.
It would make sense that Miscaviage would have a psychotic break, once he realized he directly killed someone. I can imagine that would push someone over the edge
Would Miscavige have a psychotic break over killing someone though? He seems like a genuine psychopath.... It gets thrown around a lot, but I think everything suggests that to be likely. I'm not so sure he'd break his bonds to reality, or break in any way, over the stress of having hurt of killed anybody. He seems like the type that genuinely just couldn't care less about others and would be likely unaffected or minimally affected by such a thing. Just my two cents!
@@buttlord4204yup! Agree! Prisons full of these type of psychopaths, and DM isn't any different. Self-centred narcissistic nut job. No i don't believe he had any psychotic break what so ever, more like a realism of his power position, and I just bet ya his friendship with TC just made him more aware of his power thus the aggressive behaviour escalates because what is anybody going to do to him, right? 🍻
@@SpykersB yeah I mean, on second thought, IF he did have a psychotic break, I guess it could conceivably be linked to him doing a murder... but, fear or punishment fueling the anxiety that eventually broke him, not the things that would happen to us normal folks if we did a murder The world has always been full of bad men, but many have their behavior constrained by their station, by laws, and law enforcement that would be likely to catch them, by threat of violence,.etc Miscavige is the exact type, little puugey-fart, that pushed the boundaries, doing absolutely everything he can get away with, then testing that boundary, always If David Miscavige was a civilian, and he were an uncle, those kids would've been diddled. No doubt. If he was a father, he'd be abusing those kids in ways they can't even understand until the become teenagers, warping then for life... which, something he'd never admit, but warping them was always one of the main goals. That is what DM is, what's in his heart, you can see it in his eyes too
Great to see you both again. Was the middle of our night when you went live. I very much enjoy watching your posts. The sad thing is that Shelley doesn't try to leave if that is possible.
Awesome, the last few mins explaining reasons behind "Where is Shelly Miscavige?" and how much it relates to so many others in the grips of this cult. Ev of Cornville, AZ
Marc and Clair your videos are addictive lol I watch that video who’s better leader L Ron or Dave fantastic thanks for that. Will there be more Shelly videos. I feel for her, being trapped having almost no known knowledge of a life outside even being possible. I wish we could save her and so many. How do we really know she is ok and not deceased? Can she ever have a chance of being saved and rescued.
Hi. Why dont you both share the same room when you do your videos? Im working my way through all of your videos. Im a never in, but im fascinated by it all.
It’s such a complicated situation. So many times I’ve asked myself while listening to this….Why would anyone want to find Shelley? She sounds kind of awful. I appreciate the honesty here.
I had a question. When Marc and Mitch were discussing the movie making they mention a Scientologist named Danny Dunnagan. I was wondering why the name rang such a bell. Okay, Donnie Dunnagan was the voice of Bambi and he also was the little boy in Son of Frankenstein. Later in life he was a decorated marine, so I seriously doubt that he had anything to do with Scientology. Do you know if maybe Danny is his son? Thanks, great video. The Shelly series is what hooked me and made me a subscriber. Love you guys.
Thanks. Danny Dunigan is a Sea Org member and security guard at the Int Base. He has been involved in many altercations with protesters and SPs over the years. He has also been in altercations within the Int Base with other Sea Org members. He is disliked by those outside and inside of the Int Base as he has a temper and has erred on the side of violence in many cases. I do not know his family members or any of his personal relations besides the two women he was married to while I was there at the Int Base between 1990-2005.
Thanks. Different spelling. I just couldn’t picture Bambi roughing people up at the int base, being a general POS. Donnie seems to be a great guy. Thanks for the reply.
I still think Shelly is still at twin peaks because of all the guards around the property. It's possible the others that have disappeared are there as well.
great podcast. how did claire have a bike accident? was claire riding the bike? was claire a bike passanger? was there a pot hole on the road? thank you
I am so sorry that the cult of Super-Chat-Levin-Smith and his members had a negative effect on your channel. I believe you two along with Mike Rinder are doing the real work to help people and expose the cult of Scientology. I see both of you and know what you are doing is genuine. Also, Mark your book isn't on 'Libby' the site to listen to audio books within the library system, I complained. Please keep doing what you guys do cuz it is important!!
I sometimes wonder if DM got rid of Shelly because she is a little older, was starting to show her age, and DM didn't want her around because he is always striving to appear young.
Was David Miscavige on cocaine during all of this? I know Scientologists are against drugs but I wonder if that guy was a hypocrite and the rules didn't apply to him?
The main “vices” I know about are, hanging out with Tom Cruise too much, breaking up families, elder abuse, fraud, beating people up, spending tons of money on dumb shit, whiskey, asthma meds, oxygen, and TONS of HGH.
Hi Claire and Marc! I have always had a feeling that David Miscavige had really bad breath or even halitosis. He just looks like he has THE WORST rotten breath. Can you confirm? 🎤
I wish Marc would let Claire finish speaking, for goodness sake, before moving the story along, especially when she clearly is trying to finish her thought. At 35:25
All these silly stories about Princess Kate went around after her surgery so they had her appear in public in a car briefly. If Shelly was ok they would do the same to stop these stories. So I’m very concerned for her well-being.
You have access to the “What Marc Headley should talk about in his own time on his own channel” survey that was done on the world? I appreciate you thinking of me. I will stay in my lane and keep doing me.
I can’t even listen to you anymore. I’ve lost so much respect for this channel I’m sorry. You’ve lost a follower or maybe a few. We should all be a tad more humble.
Keep posting your content, it is important to keep pressure on with what goes on in Scientology.
I am always delighted to see you. You're the best source of information concerning Scientology. Thanks for your diligence.
It's crazy to me that a place that has been accused so many times of people being held against their will, hasn't been shut down yet! And all of the reports of physical and mental abuse while being held against your will...
Always great to see you two, together. You both provide a wealth of knoledge and information regarding the horrible cult of scientology.
Excellent episode, thank you! It's good to see both of you. ❤
How great to see and hear you!
Loved this video! Never stop doing these. Makes my day when I see a new upload!
So good to see both of you. Thanks so much for providing solid information in a professional and succinct manner. It’s so important to understand what things were like and we give thanks you’re no longer held by that awful cult. Best wishes.
Oh Snap! Right! Miscavige would not be happy with Shelly if she told him he needed to do Scientology. No one tells Davey what to do! Another great episode Thanks Headleys!
I always love your Shelly content. Claire is my favorite. Such interesting stories. Trying not to think about the past issues with everyone, so resubscribing to you.
So nice to see you both 💜 great installment of the Where's Shelly series, good job!
I love when Claire cracks herself up! 🥰
It's gotta be utter hell to be anywhere near DM today. It's heartbreaking we may never see so many again...try to hold onto hope and hug those around you.
On a side note - Spy Files! Looking forward to the next one! 👍
Miscavige will disappear into hiding. He gets rid of all people that have importance eventually. (If he can't control them).
Another cracker Mr and Mrs Headley! My heart ached for you Claire listening to all this. The abuse, the sheer craziness of it, the emotional hurt. I felt I wanted to reach through the screen and give you both a hug. It also made me wish I had the power to just walk in the int base and say "that's it, it's all over now, come with me, I'm going to look after all of you!" Just to make it all stop. One can dream.
Hi Marc & Claire! Tell Mike, Amy & Mat we miss them!
Yes I miss them too 🥲
Me too ❤❤❤ But do understand why they took step back. It's been a real barrage. I'm not sure the incessant videos attacking them is the way to go... I miss the old crew's content.
@@cherrycupcake6327 yeah same
Yes, me too. Very best wishes to you. I was thinking that some people might think twice about leaving the Sea Org - go from being attacked by David Miscavige to being attacked by the disciples of ASL.
Same. We love you all.
Please know the adults in the space are still here. We never even flinched.
Alway happy to see you. 👋🏼👋🏼
More great information. Thanks, guys!
It would make sense that Miscaviage would have a psychotic break, once he realized he directly killed someone. I can imagine that would push someone over the edge
A psychotic break can indeed explain some things
Would Miscavige have a psychotic break over killing someone though? He seems like a genuine psychopath.... It gets thrown around a lot, but I think everything suggests that to be likely.
I'm not so sure he'd break his bonds to reality, or break in any way, over the stress of having hurt of killed anybody. He seems like the type that genuinely just couldn't care less about others and would be likely unaffected or minimally affected by such a thing. Just my two cents!
@@buttlord4204yup! Agree! Prisons full of these type of psychopaths, and DM isn't any different. Self-centred narcissistic nut job. No i don't believe he had any psychotic break what so ever, more like a realism of his power position, and I just bet ya his friendship with TC just made him more aware of his power thus the aggressive behaviour escalates because what is anybody going to do to him, right? 🍻
@@SpykersB yeah I mean, on second thought, IF he did have a psychotic break, I guess it could conceivably be linked to him doing a murder... but, fear or punishment fueling the anxiety that eventually broke him, not the things that would happen to us normal folks if we did a murder
The world has always been full of bad men, but many have their behavior constrained by their station, by laws, and law enforcement that would be likely to catch them, by threat of violence,.etc
Miscavige is the exact type, little puugey-fart, that pushed the boundaries, doing absolutely everything he can get away with, then testing that boundary, always
If David Miscavige was a civilian, and he were an uncle, those kids would've been diddled. No doubt. If he was a father, he'd be abusing those kids in ways they can't even understand until the become teenagers, warping then for life... which, something he'd never admit, but warping them was always one of the main goals. That is what DM is, what's in his heart, you can see it in his eyes too
So happy to enjoy another Shelley episode!! Keep up the good work you all do!!
Always happy to see you guys.
Great video! Very interesting indeed. I’m a new subscriber loving the channel. Though you really need to spellcheck the thumbnail - BANISSED?! 😀
Oops
Claire, is that a Marc & Claire bobblehead behind you and where can I order one?!? Thank you for continuing to upload content! 💕
Not sure if it's a bobblehead but certainly a figure of them. I zoomed in on HD and her head is in a pose so not sure if it can bobble.
Where you been betc?
Thanks! That was sent in by a fan. There are no bobbleheads of Claire or myself at this time that we produce or sell.
Great to see you both again. Was the middle of our night when you went live.
I very much enjoy watching your posts. The sad thing is that Shelley doesn't try to leave if that is possible.
Was so happy to get the notice of video. Still sad storyline 😢 poor Shelley
She made people do enemas though
Looking good. Happy to hear from the both of you. God Bless
Good morning, Headlys!
Fascinating chat! Thanks so much for this.
Awesome, the last few mins explaining reasons behind "Where is Shelly Miscavige?" and how much it relates to so many others in the grips of this cult. Ev of Cornville, AZ
Hey you two! Love you guys and your work❤
So great to see you both ❤
The danger of allowing one person too much power. History is full of such horror stories
Oooo this was so great. Lots of trouble in the SPTV community right now but who could stay mad with these two eh? Adorable
Great video! I wonder what the long term health effects of the purity rundown have been on the people subjected to it
We always learn so much from you both. Thank-you!!
Question: what would you think as a Scientologist when a high level person was suddenly washing dishes?
You would KNOW that they were busted. Usually it is because they thought about escaping or tried to escape.
Marc and Clair your videos are addictive lol I watch that video who’s better leader L Ron or Dave fantastic thanks for that. Will there be more Shelly videos. I feel for her, being trapped having almost no known knowledge of a life outside even being possible. I wish we could save her and so many. How do we really know she is ok and not deceased? Can she ever have a chance of being saved and rescued.
So happy to see you. Never get tired of hearing abt Shelly.
A great episode. Can you do an indepth on the lady that died please and the court case that followed? Cheers from Australia.
Good morning good interview 😊
Interesting stuff!
Hi. Why dont you both share the same room when you do your videos? Im working my way through all of your videos. Im a never in, but im fascinated by it all.
We need Bitty Miscavige, Valerie Haney, Jenna Miscavige for the where Shelly series
Hey guys enjoy this video ❤
Great podcast ❤
It’s such a complicated situation. So many times I’ve asked myself while listening to this….Why would anyone want to find Shelley? She sounds kind of awful. I appreciate the honesty here.
I had a question. When Marc and Mitch were discussing the movie making they mention a Scientologist named Danny Dunnagan. I was wondering why the name rang such a bell. Okay, Donnie Dunnagan was the voice of Bambi and he also was the little boy in Son of Frankenstein. Later in life he was a decorated marine, so I seriously doubt that he had anything to do with Scientology. Do you know if maybe Danny is his son? Thanks, great video. The Shelly series is what hooked me and made me a subscriber. Love you guys.
Thanks. Danny Dunigan is a Sea Org member and security guard at the Int Base. He has been involved in many altercations with protesters and SPs over the years. He has also been in altercations within the Int Base with other Sea Org members. He is disliked by those outside and inside of the Int Base as he has a temper and has erred on the side of violence in many cases. I do not know his family members or any of his personal relations besides the two women he was married to while I was there at the Int Base between 1990-2005.
Didn’t Danny have a brother? Chuck?
Thanks. Different spelling. I just couldn’t picture Bambi roughing people up at the int base, being a general POS. Donnie seems to be a great guy. Thanks for the reply.
Yes. It really needs to be the series of the missing witness.
I still think Shelly is still at twin peaks because of all the guards around the property. It's possible the others that have disappeared are there as well.
so glad your marriage survived and you can unite in spreading truth. Good job
It’s unreal!
great podcast.
how did claire have a bike accident?
was claire riding the bike?
was claire a bike passanger?
was there a pot hole on the road?
thank you
❤❤❤❤
I am so sorry that the cult of Super-Chat-Levin-Smith and his members had a negative effect on your channel. I believe you two along with Mike Rinder are doing the real work to help people and expose the cult of Scientology. I see both of you and know what you are doing is genuine. Also, Mark your book isn't on 'Libby' the site to listen to audio books within the library system, I complained. Please keep doing what you guys do cuz it is important!!
Thanks! We will look into the "Libby" issue and see if we can resolve.
I sometimes wonder if DM got rid of Shelly because she is a little older, was starting to show her age, and DM didn't want her around because he is always striving to appear young.
Everybody needs to watch 10 seasons of Chicago PD and get hypnotized.😊
I wonder when the last time Bronwyn spoke to her parents or any family?
Has anyone considered that DM might be hiding Shelly to protect her from being arrested like he hopefully will be one day? Just a thought.
I have a question: What is the average Scientology wedding like? Do they take special vows?
www.theknot.com/content/scientology-weddings-going-clear-hbo-tom-cruise
Was David Miscavige on cocaine during all of this? I know Scientologists are against drugs but I wonder if that guy was a hypocrite and the rules didn't apply to him?
The main “vices” I know about are, hanging out with Tom Cruise too much, breaking up families, elder abuse, fraud, beating people up, spending tons of money on dumb shit, whiskey, asthma meds, oxygen, and TONS of HGH.
So is this a new video?
I think so. I’ve never heard abt the tonics before.
Yes!
I really miss Aimee
Hi Claire and Marc!
I have always had a feeling that David Miscavige had really bad breath or even halitosis. He just looks like he has THE WORST rotten breath.
Can you confirm? 🎤
The video card says banissed
u tryna get a crack at my banussy?
Haha...yeah, I noticed that on the thumbnail - I thought my eyes were going crazy!
I wish Marc would let Claire finish speaking, for goodness sake, before moving the story along, especially when she clearly is trying to finish her thought.
At 35:25
What does “banissed” mean? XD
fixed
😊
54:15 A tale of Two Tommies.
After her banishment did Jenny Linson become 2nd in command?
Nope. Shelly was not replaced. There is no longer a “COB Assistant” he has multiple “communicators” now.
@@blownforgood ya gotta do an episode about Jenny linson!👍
I agree!
All these silly stories about Princess Kate went around after her surgery so they had her appear in public in a car briefly. If Shelly was ok they would do the same to stop these stories. So I’m very concerned for her well-being.
ten four
No one is worried about SHELLY anymore. New material is needed.
You don't need to listen. Many channels repeat the same stories with different perspective depending what positions they held in the cult
I am worried. How do you know what everyone thinks?
Why are you speaking for everyone else. There’s a number of other channels out there, off you trot
How do you know what other people are worried about?
You have access to the “What Marc Headley should talk about in his own time on his own channel” survey that was done on the world? I appreciate you thinking of me. I will stay in my lane and keep doing me.
This is old news. Please stop ignoring the second gens and the amazing work they are doing
Not sure why your trolling this channel. Support the channels you want.
Ignoring myself? Hard to do.
Old news you say and yet here you are listening and commenting on it.. no one is forcing you to be here so goodbye
Then go away. They've been doing this content for a while. You're just here to stir up trouble.
Seriously?😂
Nope. As I expierienced it, They are even worse. More sinister,more crazy.
I can’t even listen to you anymore. I’ve lost so much respect for this channel I’m sorry. You’ve lost a follower or maybe a few. We should all be a tad more humble.
(I guess your screen name is ironic)♥
You can’t listen to them anymore and yet here you are on their channel listening and commenting on it….
@@touchstonesandroses😂😂😂 nice
Then maybe go away quietly and respectfully.
You are neither peaceful nor silent. Say hi to your Scientology overlords!