Steve Reviews: The 90s Sonic Cartoons
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2022
- With the new Sonic movie coming out I thought I'd take a nostaligic look back at the unique 90s period of Sonic cartoons. These were cartoons I grew up with as a child, but how do they fair up now when I look back on them...
Note that the audio is a bit off in this vid as there was construction work outside whilst I was recording, I tried editing much of it out, but that has affected the voice over a little, so apologies.
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Sonic fact: One of the reasons Sonic can't swim is that the design team and other staff mistakenly thought hedgehogs couldn't swim.
Didn’t know that
Ok
reasonable mistake, seems counter intuitive
Swimming with Mickey Mouse gloves and sneakers is harder than you think, trust me I know
Fun fact: People have already said this numerous times, no need to tell us about it :/
I honest to god loved Sonic Underground as a kid! Though, I thought it was a fever dream until a friend mentioned liking it.
I liked it too! I had never seen Sonic SatAm so the whole "dark" aspect of the show was something completely new for me, and I still think a lot of it works incredibly well...if it hadn't been a Sonic cartoon, like as an adult it's even jarring how the designs of Sonic and his siblings just clash with nearly all side and background characters.
If they had made it an original cartoon with the background character aesthetic and the music, I think it could have been a lot more popular.
I also think Sonic Underground would have profited from serialization instead of being episodic. There was just so much emphasis on finding the queen and liberating the people that the whole episodic stuff got grating quickly.
@@garthst.claire3459 I have to agree!
I used watch Sonic underground as a kid too!
And I loved it so much
I loved it so much and I will defend it to my grave
Same.
Fun fact: Sonic's VA for one of these series , Jaleel White if I'm not mistaken, was planned to voice Classic Sonic in Sonic Generations, but it was discarded for unknown reasons, thus why Classic Sonic doesn't have a voice, although, for some reason, Tails and Dr Robotnik do have a voice, which I think it doesn't make sense in the game, but oh well, what I'm I going to do.
Edit: Jaleel White is the VA for both of these. Sorry for the mistake
It is Jaleel White for all three shows actually! He also plays Sonia and Manic alongside Sonic in Sonic Underground. I don’t remember hearing that he would play classic in Sonic Generations but it sounds reasonable. I think the reason it might’ve fallen through is because I remember in an interview, White said he actually hated playing Sonic and that Sega completely screwed him over. I might be remembering wrong but that’s my theory on it.
@@dreamwalker6500
White happily reprised the role of Sonic for a fanfilm.
@@Idazmi7 yep a little fun fact when he was doing the voice for Sonic Jaleel White actually tried finding a voice that didn't sound like it belong to a specific race or stereotype which was definitely interesting considering White himself is black and he didn't want to do a voice that sounded too Black and I think he perfectly balanced that tone of not sounding like he's from a specific racial background but also I've come to realise that Jaleel White was also the only black actor whose ever voiced Sonic
@@secoTheSonicFan Penders was always a bit of a drama queen.
13:29 sauce please? Lol
Adventures of Sonic: Meme.
Sonic Sat-AM: Lore.
Sonic Underground: Fanfiction.
This is such a weirdly accurate description of each show's vibes.....
Archie Sonic: Lore Overload
Now rate "Fleetway's Sonic the Comic", the IDW series, Sea3on, the OVA, Sonic X, Sonic Boom and Sonic Prime. Also do the movies that got made, and the ones that were scrapped.
I'm glad that there are many younger people who still like Sonic, my little cousins who are mostly under 14 love the characters and re-enact them.
My seven year old son loves Sonic, and is really looking forward to the Sonic 2 movie.
Of course he is. He's iconic and extremely popular.
U talking about sonig in general? Or the older cartoons?
Dude you are acting like he’s some ancient cartoon from the 40’s
No one is making those comment about Mario, doom guy, pac man, tetronimo, mega man, samus
And mega man is an icon despite not having many recent games.
But personally I wouldn’t mind the Sonic fan base consisting of 4-year olds (that part specifically, like cmon it’s worse than the fan art) who constantly talk about how Sonic could beat every possible fictional character die out
That's so nice to hear considering Sonic is seen as a big meme nowadays.
I used to read the comics a lot as a kid, and I remember there being one future version series where Sonic and Sally actually got married, became king and queen of the planet, and even had twin children named Manic and Sonia (literally a direct reference to underground). Everyone else was also grown with partners and children as well. I think it was called "30 Years Later" or something.
That's right it was also mentioned that Robotnik died before the events of that comic book series and Sonic and Sally decided to settle down and get married and have children though it's also indicated that her father had recently died and so Sally became queen of Mobius with Sonic becoming King because of the fact he is married to Sally
Penders.
Yeah, it was 25 years later/30 years later. It's gone down as one of the worst story arcs in the Sonic series, mostly due to 25 years later.
Ah yes, Ken Penders' "The Lara-Su Chronicles."
@@zuresei Lara-Su being the daughter of Knuckles and Julie-Su and from my knowledge Lara worked as Sonia and Manik's Nanny who the twins loved spending time with
Fun Fact: Bradley Pierce, who voices Tails, also voiced Chip in Disney’s Beauty and the Beast!
He was also Peter in Jumanji, and Pete in The Borrowers.
Waiting for someone to mention that
Another Fun Fact: Gary Chalk, who I believe was Grounder in AOSTH and Robotnik in Underground, is the General in the new live-action movies.
13:29 sauce please? Lol
@@nicholastosoni707 yep and in the upcoming Sonic Prime series it's been confirmed that Brian Drummond who did the voice of Knuckles in that show will be voicing a character in Sonic Prime which I'm thinking he may be reprising his role as Knuckles
Cool
Steve the reason Tails can’t really be independent from Sonic in AoStH is because he’s only a toddler here. He’s 4, independence means he dies. That’s why the episodes that show him doing his own thing he’s forced to do so via Robotnik actually succeeding in taking Sonic OOC. Forced to really step up his game and hopefully find other adults that can help him. And I think those episodes are some of the best.
Another thing that I think works in the adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was the fact that Tails was actually adopted by Sonic as a younger brother
so, he's half his age?
Ofc he wouldn’t understand that his opinion of amy shows he doesn’t know shit abt sonic 😭
He’s 4? When does it say that?
@@whitedragoness23 slooooooow going.
I actually remember being obsessed with the Sonic Underground theme as a kid. Oddly enough, though, the first time I heard it was in a trailer for the show on a Super Mario Bros. Super Show DVD.
Go figure
Dude that theme slaps. It's a pretty awful show, but that theme is gold.
NO WAY! I was this weird video game kid, and I loved that Mario Show. I also found this show through that very same DVD.
*_"(...) though the first time I heard it was in a trailer for the show on a Super Mario Bros. Super Show on DVD"_*
I had a similar experience similar, actually! I think it was a Polish dub of "The Amazing Zorro" cartoon film. I'm pretty sure the DVD had short trailers of other cartoons the company has dubbed/distributed, like "Groove Squad", "Time Kid", "Yolanda: Secret of the Black Rose", the Willy Fog movies and probably more. They also dubbed Sonic Christmas Blast, but it's pretty bad, which I found very disappointing, considering a lot of the stuff from them I watched I absolutely loved (and still do), so I felt kinda betrayed. :/
I even try to include the SU data in my take on the overall whole story, as well. I say Sonic's parents are Sir Jules (archie SatAM) ad Queen Aleena (Sonic Underground). This makes the triplets 3/4s royalty (which counts as them being royalty)...
Robotnik was one of the few redeeming aspects of AoSth. He's one of the few characters from that show that consistently made me laugh as a kid and can still make me laugh today. Long John Baldry nailed that role!
Agreed but mike pollock is still the best but only by a hair
Also fun fact Long John Baldry who did the voice of Dr Robotnik was actually a close friend of Elton John in fact that's where he got the John part of his stage name from also on the topic of Long John Baldry he also did the voice of a much more serious villain Komplex in Bucky O'Hare and the toad Wars
PINGAS
“Snooping as usual I see.”
-Robotnik’s immortal line
It's sad that he never got to live to see himself in the YTP hall of fame.
_Sonic the Hedgehog_ was my preferred version of the three. I grew up with a love of darker cartoons, so this fit the best. What I especially liked was when Sonic kept having nightmares that he had failed Sally & she been robotized.
What's cooler is that all the foreshadowing in the cartoon led to the creation of Mecha Sally. So, it was literally like Sonic's nightmares had come true. Sure, it was a comic-exclusive plotline, but it was still heartbreaking to see her attack her close friends and family.
To be honest, “Sonic SATAM” sounds like something that definitely should be remade today. It really stuck with me as a kid, like the original Star Wars trilogy. If you watch the review of “Sonic SATAM” by the “Nostalgia Critic” (Doug Walker) he figured out that the show has a subtle environmental message at its core about nature vs technology.
In this case, Robotnik is portrayed as a dictator symbolising technology, while Sonic & company are portrayed as “freedom fighters” symbolising nature: therefore nature conquering technology. Many shows in the 90’s was about protecting the environment & I bet kids were more invested when it’s portrayed like an actual war.
Considering the golden age of streaming & animation, on top of protecting the environment being just as relevant today as it was back then, this should be remade today. If I did this myself, the new title for it would be “Sonic and the Planet of Terra”. “Terra” is the Latin word for land, as well as a play on the word “terror” to symbolise Robotnik’s rule over the planet. It could draw inspiration from Endor, the forest moon in “Star Wars” where the Ewoks live. I’m positive it’s possible to do justice today, it’s just about finding the right creative team.
What do you think Steve? Please let me know, & I could describe how I would reimagine the characters & so on for this incarnation of “Sonic the Hedgehog”.
@@wadeyhyena1657 It really was a nightmare come true to have that story fully realized. Even quoted the "brains handed out" line verbatim. Shame it never got a proper conclusion due to the Pendering.
FUN FACT: Long John Baldry (who voiced Dr. Robotnik in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog) actually saved Elton John's life once when Elton tried to commit suicide after having problems with his engagement to a woman, and as Baldry's openly gay himself, he talked Elton out of marrying her and focus on his music career. In honouring Baldry, Elton John's song "Someone Saved My Life Tonight" is based on that experience and that "someone" (and "Sugar Bear" in the lyrics) are references to Baldry.
Great video as always Steve, love your reviews, and keep up with the good work mate!
@@williampulfer-melville8536 Great facts for everyone, Long John Baldry is an underrated legend. Shame the Rocketman movie didn't mention him instead they say Elton John named himself after John Lennon.
@@sgt-terrier441 yeah that is very true apparently It had something to do with legal issues whith Baldry's surviving partner why they couldn't use Long John Baldry in Rocketman
@@williampulfer-melville8536 That make sense, thanks for that info. Won't be surprise if they went for John Lennon as everyone knows him and most of the audience will be like "Who's Long John Baldry?" if the movie use him lol
@@sgt-terrier441 yeah possibly though I still think they should have used him because he was an important part of Elton's life
@@williampulfer-melville8536 I 100% agree they should, especially he was important and saved Elton's life. Ah well, decent movie anyway.
Sonic SatAM and Sonic Underground were the best and most underrated shows ever made, so sad that they both got cancelled early and weren't given a chance, wish they'd reboot it
I never played the games but I did watched the cartoons like Sonic satam and sonic underground and sonic x was my favorite next to them
“Underrated” is such an overused word these days, and even by it’s true definition, SU is not an appropriate application.
Wait Underground Was Also Cancelled? Man I Might Have Been a Little Too Hard On You My Music Friend
@Anonymous Blame Ken Penders for what happened to the SATAM Season 3 planned film.
SATAM got 5 million views per week. Well, 4.9 million. It only had 2 seasons, but it was moderately popular. Not as big as Power Rangers, but decent enough views
I loved Sonic Underground as a kid. I never realized how blessed I was to have it on tape. That show is the reason why I learned drums, and it gives me bragging rights to know of Manic and Sonia
Apparently the writers of SatAM planned to slowly bring Tails into into the main cast in a role similar to the one he had in the games but the show got cancelled before they could go there. One of many, many reasons it's a crime they ended things the way they did.
Also, he'd've apparently debuted in the second season of Underground.
@@cfruge444 Funny how Tails and Knuckles failed to appear in two shows while the other did appear and were planned to eventually be introduced but failed due to show cancellation.
It could be done today as a modern game called “Sonic Freedom Fighters”. This could be like a more kid-friendly “Just Cause” where Sonic & company have to liberate their Endor-like planet from Robotnik. ❤
It was a major mistake to ignore him for so long.
Ah, Sonic Satam. You were my most beloved cartoon when I was a kid, and I do still to this day miss Sally Acorn. She was such a likable character and really played of well with Sonic as a leader and love interest
It could work today as a modern video game as a kid-friendly “Just Cause” called “Sonic Freedom Fighters. ❤
As far as White voicing Sonya, it's cheaper to hire a single actor to play multiple voices than to hire multiple actors.
It's Rear to hear a Male VA voice a Female Character.
the only other male playing female VA I know of is the guy who does Lina in Bob's Burgers, and he's very convincing. For a long time I didnt even know she was voiced by a man.
@@SolarMessiah432 also Roz from Monsters Inc. Also the VA who plays Wolverine, Steve Blum, has voiced a female character (I don't remember who) but I remember it was kinda convincing.
He does solid job, he does a convincing female voice.
@@SolarMessiah432 Whoa I didn't even realize Tina was voiced by a guy 😅 it did seem convincing. But Nick Kroll is also a dude that plays a female character from the show "Big Mouth" he plays Lola.
SatAM still has my favourite version of Robotnik. He's got such a menacing design and is actually intimidating. That and it has Bunny Rabbot.
Plus Jim Cummings voice helped too
Same here
What i liked about Sonic satam was not only because of how dark it was but I also loved the Sonic and Sally love story as their romance felt very natural they start off as best friends when they were children and as teenagers Sonic is the one that has strong feelings for her so she won't admit it but she secretly does love him
You forgot Sonic X
@@jaygooese4242sorry but I agree with Williampulfer-melville, Sally was indeed a much better love interest for Sonic, I know Amy may have gotten better in later Sonic games, but her relationship with Sonic can be a bit uncomfortable at times especially during the 2000s where Amy was at her worst, she was rude in Sonic Heroes, Sonic Rush, and Sonic Riders, I understand that Amy having a crush on Sonic is part of her character, but the fact that she can be pretty aggressive at times whenever she doesn't get her way, that doesn't seem like a character you wanna root for, I get that people may like her character fine but for me I wasn't a fan of Amy growing up, which is also one of my main issues I had with Sonic X.
You are literally a genius for posting this right before the movie release. Also thank you for reviewing the cartoons, they were literally 90% of my early childhood, and i love seeing people's takes on them, thank you Steve!
Uhh it doesn't take a "genius" to post content relating to a highly anticipated movie's release. In fact, if you're looking for views and money it's common feckin' sense.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 Dude calm down. I don't see it happening to this extent that much. I thought it was cool. What's your deal?
17:09 That is exactly what I thought as a kid! I thought Snivley had been building Metal Sonic in secret and even now; It'd have been a unique way to introduce him to that series
Too bad the creators of the show revealed that Snively's "friend" is Ixis Naugus, not Metal Sonic.
I've heard about men voicing female characters, but mostly its to remark they're ugly or man-like. I guess they just wanted to save money with Sonia.
My favorite series was AoStH, it has its charm.
Fun fact: Gary Chalk is also the voice actor as grounder.
And he would later appear in the first Sonic movie as one of the army generals
Ah yes, Armanda Optimum Prime.
@@misterjersey5460 and, Beast Wars Optimus Primal (though, it's kinda the same thing.)
I'm not against the idea of Manic and Sonia being made canon, They don't have to be related to Sonic by blood, but who wouldn't want the trio to lip sync to a Crush 40 song or have Sonic sing his Adventure theme?
The SatAM cartoon was bloody amazing, one of the best out there.
I remember watching it on this channel whatever it was called but I love the show and sonic x their by far my favorite sonic cartoons
Kinda wish they got Jaleel White to do the voice of Young Sonic in the movies.
Or Classic Sonic in the newer games
He was gonna but for some reason they nix the idea. Probably fear of fan backlash
I honestly love Ben Schwartz since he sounds like Drummond sonic but even friendlier. Rcs sonic is a loud dorky dude not unlike Jaleel
@@yupazestru5189 thoughts on rogers peformance in frontiers?
Fun fact; The voice of Robotnik in Sonic Underground was Garry Chalk, who previously was the voice of Grounder in AoStH... AND he made a physical appearance in the first live-action Sonic movie as a government official
Sonic Underground was the first real exposure to Sonic young me had. I watched it on a road trip with my little sister using a portable DVD player - was very disappointed when their vow their mother would be found wasn't held up.
I'd consider it a guilty pleasure of mine.
One thing that wasnt mentioned about Sonic Underground, that I personally remember quite fondly is Sleet's delivery. He has a pretty good voice
And if that voice sounds familiar that was because Sleet was voiced by Maurice LaMarche doing his Orson Welles impression
@@williampulfer-melville8536 And Maurice LaMarche does the voice for Brain from Pinky and the Brain for all those people who can't place where you remember the voice from.
@@koolmckool7039 Of course. I do enjoy his voice performance. So of course I think of Brain when Sleet's voice comes out.
Same, I loved the opening of the show and is something that I loved
@@Julayla I think of Sleet when I hear Brain, ironically. XD But...Sleet is one of my FAVORTIE characters of all of Sonic, so...
Fun fact: Sonic doesn't have a brain, the reason to that is because if he did there wouldn't be enough room for the giant two pupiled eyeball in his head
I remember watching a newgrounds series years ago called "Sonic shorts". This audio at 2:48 was in it and I've been wondering for YEARS where it originated from.
Thank you for answering my lingering question !
That's been a *huge* meme among the fanbase for years, yeah, it's from the "Sonic OVA". And yes "Sonic Shorts" is an extremely popular series too, it's all on UA-cam now ua-cam.com/video/C006DTHfcbM/v-deo.html
Those videos were a MASSIVE part of my childhood
What's cooler is that Satam was technically continued through the Archie Comics. So, even though the cartoon was canned, the Freedom Fighters still continued to fight up until 2017.
RIP. Archie Sonic (1994-2017)
Did it ever get a proper conclusion?
@@Double-R-Nothing Nope. Unfortunately, it was stopped close to the end of a four-part issue. Due to Sega cutting ties with Archie in 2017. Such a tragic loss for Archie Fans everywhere.
@@wadeyhyena1657 SATAM just can't catch a break.
@@Double-R-Nothing It's tragic. But hey, at least the fans respect the legacy that the freedom fighters left behind, and are continuing the comics to finish up loose ends and expand on the Archie Universe.
@@Double-R-Nothing Even though at this point, I've moved to the current Sonic Comic for entertainment. I'll always have nostalgia for the original ones.
I loved Sonic SatAM as a kid! and Sonic's romance with Sally was one of my favorite romances in the entire Sonic franchise! i mean i know most people these days still prefer Sonic and Amy but i'm just saying that's just i how felt.
I'm sorry but Sally sucked. Kath Soucie may have done an excellent job voicing her but the character herself was just useless.
Dude Sally ,in all honesty, was a princess Mary sue. But I did grow up with Amy rose
@@SlyfyGummy Exactly, Sally was mainly just a useless plot device.
@@SlyfyGummy dude she not a marry sue she still does stuff wrong and if where talking about marry sue then Amy could be one because she hits sonic hurts him and tries to force him to marry her and they try to play that Amy did nothing wrong
I grew up with both Amy and Sally, but primarily Amy. I still prefer shipping Sally over Amy if I even do shipping at all w/this franchise 😂 but that’s just me
Seeing Robotnik wearing such revealing Egyptian clothes cracks me up so much! XD
Same here but I think it's funny because it just goes to show how vain The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog version of Dr Robotnik is
SatAM actually continued in comic form by Archie Comics. It started in 1992 but was sadly cancelled by Sega in 2016 and the comic rights ended up going to IDW.
Ok but I love that headcanon of Mecha Sonic being Chuck
Sonic Underground was interesting, but the theme went *so* hard lmao
SatAM was the shit! i loved the darker tone. it made Robotnik a real threat, not just a joke villain.
I like this opening 0:04
Oh my god, “Sonic SATAM” had the BEST version of Robotnik ever!
I think this epitomises where Sonic went wrong in his 3D games:
These episodes were set in a great and colourful world but had things not completely dependant on sonic’s speed (Mario can jump but that’s not all he does whereas Sonic just runs in a lot of his games, which is limiting).
An open world sonic game based on the world of “The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog”, would be amazing if made by Nintendo.
Id prefer SatAM for a setting
@@kungfuskull They’ve done games similar to that theme already (SA1 & SA2)
@@SRPC21 so make more, make new, they're constantly remixing stuff and that was the most interesting setting so why not use it more?
@@kungfuskull Because it’d be nice to have something we’ve not already had before.
A cartoony Sonic game in an open world with the characters of the first cartoon series would be really great- similar to Odyssey. With elements of puzzles, platforming etc and not just running (seen a million times before).
"Elements of puzzles and platforming, not just running"
So Sonic BOOM Rise of Lyric, if it were a finished game?
This one always gave me Ratchet and Clank vibes, and I'd have loved to see it become something similar.
My favourite Sonic show was always Sonic X, but Adventures was always a close second. I think i'm the only Sonic fan on the planet who hasn't somehow watched Sonic SatAM yet...
Don't feel bad, I actually never knew about SatAM growing up. I only watched AoSTH and Underground, had no idea it was on Saturday mornings at the time.
I never watched SatAM either. Only Underground and X were dubbed in my country and I only watched the former. Even nowdays I can't bring myself to watch SatAM due to my crippling laziness. I even started lowering my expectations in case I _did_ end up watching it, cuz people just *love* to overpraise stuff they used to watch when they were young. I'm not saying I expect it to be horrible, just OK.
Oh and despite not watching it, my selectively wild imagination has decided to conjure up a self-insert story for it, complete with treating my stand-in like a piece of trash. Man, I'm weird. 😒
First time I saw the other Sonic cartoon was when I changed the channel to watch "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" and instead Sonic was with Sally and I was utterly confused about why everything was so different.
Dang, i remember loving sonic underground as a kid with my sister, i forgot it existed until today. Thanks steve
Hello Steve
man, didn't have to go so hard on sonic underground xD, I loved that shit as a kid. Certainly feels like Steve went easy on the stuff he grew up on, and went a bit harsh on the stuff he didn't watch much back then. Underground imo still feels better then the first show, but thats up to the person. Sonic X still my favourite series to this day, wonder what Steve will say about that.
Totally agree, if I’d have to rank them, it’d be: SatAM, Underground, and then Adventures.
I’m in the camp of strongly disliking Adventures, as the more serious stuff was much more intriguing. Not to mention, Archie comics were very similar in style to SatAM and Underground.
Honestly I think Steve should wait till Sonic Prime releases and then do the retrospective on all of the "Modern" Sonic cartoons.
SatAM was a work of art.
Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog was Loony Toons meets Sonic.
My only regret with Sonic Underground is that we didn't get a proper finale.
And Sally Acorn IMHO is a better fit for Sonic than Amy. She doesn't idealize Sonic, and doesn't press the issue of a step Sonic clearly isn't ready for, she's able to match Sonic in talking smack, and is the strategist to Sonic's unpredictability.
Growing up with Sonic Underground, I gotta admit the music was a bop- just that one clip at 1:10 brought back so many memories
I was born after the 90’s but I still managed to watch Sonic SatAM and I loved it
I live for these reviews. Never stop 😍
I've had the Sonic Underground opening stuck in my head for my entire life.
It’s interesting to note that the Saturday morning show had a bit of a style change between the two seasons. Some characters had a redesign, there were a couple of new characters, new plots came while others were abandoned, and the tone had a slight shift.
There is a fan project making season 3 of Sonic SATAM using story notes from production and their goal is to get sega to make it official
To me, like the 80's TMNT cartoon before them, SATAM benefited from Archie taking them on as a comic franchised. They were able to flesh out the world and add some maturity as the audience grew. I liked how Antoine grew throughout the series. He went from a wimpy stuck up who looked down on Sonic flirting with Sally to a capable freedom fighter. A while the Sally and Sonic romance was nice, I liked the Antoine and Bunny more.
I feel more in line with the following ->
Sonic - Amy Rose
Tails - Cream
Knuckles - Julie-Su
Sally - Antionne
*Rotor - Bunnie*
Manic (SU) - Tiara Booboski (Sonic Xtreme)
Lord Bartleby - Sonia
Shadow - Rouge
??? - Sticks
*the OVA old man owl - Longclaw the owl*
There were so many times I forgot I was watching Steve Reviews throughout this video. It's quite a jump to go to Sonic from all the other dark and disturbing stuff reviewed here.
"For triplets born the throne awaits! A seer warns of a deadly fate!"
Wow, I honestly thought I'd forgotten that theme song!
Now it's stuck in my head again.
Thanks Steve!
I actually liked all of these cartoons even sonic underground. Imagine all of this combined with every othe sonic continuity which would include the game-idw universe the archie comics universe the fleetway comics universe and the sonic boom universe. All of this sounds impossible for story reasons since some of the history of a certin person who worked on archie sonic comics. Well if i had a story reason for this it would include a sonic oc i created called genesis the hedgehog and he has a lot of backstory for a oc so I'll mention it after mentioning his apperence and abilities. His appearance would be a grey hedgehog with green eyes but he would hide his identity because of story reasons but his disguise would be a black metallic mask similar to zeros mask from zero escape 999 with a black cloak similar to chris Redfields coat from resident evil 8 and while he is in this disguise he calls himself mr g so its kinda like a split personality when not in his disguise he has a calm freindly personality who gets angry when someone tries to do something like try to hurt someone he cares about but when he is in his disguise he is always calm and knows everyone's every move being a bit overpowered which brings us to the abilities he has the ability to cross through the different sonic universe's which was the main topic of the comment but he can also revive people but only if the body is at least 10 meters from him he can also travel back in time as well as stop tine itself like dio brando from jojos bizzare adventure part 3 stardust crusaders. His backstory is like i said is a bit complicated and long so i will make the short edition. He is sonic's eldest brother he was Gerald robotniks assistant and was close with maria he was also gave his dna to the black arms to make shadow and when genesis combined both dnas he basically created immortality so he used it on himself to make him immortal and then g.u.n came and killed maria and genesis was in a demonic rage but maria told genesis before she died she told genesis to not kill anyone so he escapes and returns to mobius. He was also freinds with cream the rabbits father and my reason he is not in the games is that genesis is being chased by the dark brotherhood from sonic chronicles because they sense that he has incredible power so they try to hunt him down and genesis didn't want creams father to get involved so he sent him far away from mobius for his safety and after that genesis was cornered by the dark brotherhood by a cliff so he jumped off the cliff and faked his death because of immortality. Genesis wakes up in a cave and he discovered that he had powers and left his universe to get stronger rpg style though this is not the end of the backstory because when he left his universe he went to the archie universe where he gets captured by robotnik and was transported to a prison where he met a certain female character who cheated on sonic with a certain evil green hedgehog but these events took place before that anyway genius became close freinds with her but then he was sent to public execution and so he fakes his death again and left to the fleetway universe where he meets extra life sonic and redeemed him and then both of them went back to the game universe and repaired mecha sonic from sonic 3 and knuckles and redeemed him as well and as a gift for redeeming them they gave genesis a disguise and nickname to become the multiverse hero named mr g. Well what do you think whoever is reading this.
Me too. I honestly didn't mind it mostly
I agree Jaleel White did a great job.
And I like how he actually made Sonic sound like a teenager which actually makes a lot of sense since Jaleel White was a teenager at the time
@@williampulfer-melville8536 He can still voice him.
There was something about Sonic Underground that made it super underrated. I honestly loved the musical segments growing up. But each to their own.
7:20 Remember. The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog had some crew members who previously worked for Ren and Stimpy, as well as some that later worked for Rocko's Modern Life and What a Cartoon. Of course the animation is gonna look different from the later Sonic cartoons.
Also, this came out in 1993. Hand drawn television animation in general wouldn't get officially improved until 1999/2000, when digital ink and paint got bigger.
Holy shit, Steve you're really bringing me back!
I was 4 when Sonic 2 came out and it was the first game I ever owned cause it came with my beloved Genesis.
Can't wait to see Rogue in the Sonic Cinematic Universe 🦇
With hopefully Scarlett Johansson being offered the role
@@williampulfer-melville8536 or Jennifer Live Hewitt.
Jim Cummings is great as SatAm Robotnik! Hes intimidating yet he can be a little bit goofy at the same time. Hes a man on a mission for sure to destroy the freedom fighters. Now the current voice of Eggman/Robotnik Mike Pollock. Is to me one of the best voice actors for this character and hes played him for like 20 years now. Hes the longest voice actor for the Doctor.
Baldry's performance is awesome and perfectly encapsulates how I imagined Robotnik would act like in the early games. He was a goofy villain obsessed with gimmicks who isn't usually that hard to beat, yet he keeps coming back with a new gimmick for each level (or episode). His minions are totally incompetent (can be killed in one hit in the games). Hell he's my profile pic, of course I loved this take on the character
The SatAM and Underground themes go hard asf.
I'm still praying for a 3rd season of SatAM.
Same here but the best we got so far is a group of dedicated fans who decided to make the third season themselves the channel called themselves Satam s3son
I heared of the fan project sea3on 3 too , if your fan of sonic satam, you should give it a try sometime, there videos about it on utube IF you're interested ..
The studio that made it is long in the ground
@@aruce9 maybe but if Ice Age can still continue long after Blue Sky closure anything is possible
I'm burned by what modern Star Wars has done... I'm happy to let SatAM sleep until current social trends blow over.
Sonic Underground was the cartoon that introduced me to Sonic in general,kind of a long story but here it goes
I remember as a child going on vacation with my family to Gatlinburg TN and we picked up a dvd copy of The Super Mario bros super show at Redbox,also it was also my first introduction to the Mario cartoon.Anyways after the show was over,the show had some trailers,first there was the legend of Zelda cartoon trailer and then the one that fascinated me the most and that was a trailer for Sonic Underground,though it was basically the intro.Holy Smokes as a little kid,this was amazing.The intro to the show got me hooked so I just had to find a way to watch this show. So the next time when we came back to the Redbox,I finally got the first Sonic Underground dvd I ever rented called the secret of the chaos emerald.When I watched the first episode called friend or foe.I was freakin hooked to the show.And then as Netflix arrived I watched the entire series.I really enjoyed the show while watching it as a kid. Fun characters,good music,a strong narrative and a good sense of mystery. It was fun watching Sonic and his siblings trying to deafeat Robotnik and search for there mother Queen Aleena.But strangely once I got done watching the show,something bothered me.They never found there mother.This really pissed me off even as a kid,because I though the show would at least have more episodes,but over the years after figuring out why the show ended and why we never got a conclusion. It all makes sense.Though I hope they do reboot this show someday because it would be nice to get an actually finally from this show.Because without this show I wouldn’t have become a big Sonic fan like I am today. Plus I wouldn’t be able to play the games,watch the movie or even watch the other cartoons.
That’s why I have a soft spot for Sonic Underground.
If I had a nickel for every person in this video's comment section that got introduced to Sonic Underground through the Mario Show DVD, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Finally some else agrees with me that the adventures of sonic the hedgehog series was good.
I grew up watching these and I'm pretty sure this is where some of my issues started ... 🙃
same
Despite being born in 95, the only sonic series I watched is sonic x. But that may be because I was a dumb child interested in anime, when in reality, I should have been watching series like justice league unlimited instead of yugioh. Because jlu was dope as hell.
You're not alone. I grew up with sonic x too. Pretty much people like us who were born in the late 90s would have grown up with sonic x while people born in the late 80s would grow up with all 3 90s sonic cartoons.
I'm glad I didn't know the difference between anime and cartoons when I was a kid.
I feel like underground was a merge between the two previous shows, mixing the visuals, stories, and goofiness.
sonic underground will always be my favorite piece of sonic media, and it's just heartbreaking that nothing will ever be like it :(
OMG I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THESE WITH MY SISTER. It’s scary man, like you’re reading our minds😂 Sonic Underground intro though, that shit slaps. Man these are just sooo nostalgic
So much of my childhood was Sonic, thank you for the trip down memory lane, god im old
From one raven to another, yes, we are old
"Now might be a good time to get angry, your bloatedness."
"That's my secret, Scratch... I'M ALWAYS ANGRY!"
Adventures Robotnik is always entertaining to watch. I recall the character designer describing him as "animation's sexiest fat man." And now he lives on making hedgehog stew and winning the race.
Bless iteachvader.
the last ep of SatAM was such an editing clusterfuck I was surprised they let it out like that. Repeated imagery, animation, probably seizure inducing?
Sonics famous line: That's no good
I ADORE Sonic SatAM. It was so cool.
I definitely prefer “goofball” Robotnik / Eggman in any of the cartoons. But I think my favourite of that type has been from Sonic Boom. YMMV about the series itself, and the calibre it was trying to be. But I like just the idea of Eggman being as disillusioned as he is funny and somewhat endearing.
I'm a huge Sonic fan- so I'd love to hear more on these other series you mentioned at the end. Especially Sonic X and Mania Adventures. I'm glad you're interested in Sonic at least a little bit. Never knew you were.
"Remeber kids, if someone touches you in a place that makes you feel uncomfortable, that's good"
-YTP sonic sez
I absolutely loved these cartoons. Going from super goofy to super serious.
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winnie: what color is my heart?
piglet: i don't see a heart pooh
winnie: extactly
You've just touched upon an idea I already had; Robotnik's latest plan backfires, and suddenly he's Winnie-the-Pooh in Robotnik's body. This means Robotnik in Pooh's body is REALLY pissed! Then Piglet switches with Snivley (after an attempt to restore order fails on *both sides* !) Then, Rabbit in Ixis Naugus' body explains some of what happened to Sonic's group (Sonic, Tails, Amy Rose, Knuckles, Cream, Big, Manic, Sonia, Sticks, Boomer the turtle). Meanwhile, Robotnik, Snivley and Naugus try taking over the Hunnerd Acre wood, beleiving that somehow _that's_ the only way they'll be allowed to restore order...
EDIT - Even Cluck (SatAM - Robotnik's pet) switches with Tigger!...
Interesting thing from the comics to note about Robotnik (Julian Ivo Kintobor) in SatAM is that he came from a royalty family of humans (House of Ivo) who were at war with the Mobians (furries). He defected from his faction due to unethical practice as a scientist which he was convicted for, and for involving a relative in a scientific 'mishap'.
He was taken up by King Acorn under political asylum where Julian demonstrated his advanced knowledge of miltary and technology, something the Mobians were lacking, and was appointed as the minister of war for King Acorn, helping him win the war. Once it was over, King Acorn ordered Julian's assets to be disbanded which would prevent him from practicing the very unethical and war-inspired experiments that got him to flee from the human colonies, enraging him, so he plotted a military coup on King Acorn and seized Mobotropolis (capitol of Mobius) for his own.
Another tidbit regarding Robotnik's robotic arm is that when Sonic was younger and trying to flee from him, he knocked Robotnik into his roboticizer which mechanically replaced his arm, and it's regarded as the very first moment that made him hate Sonic.
It's interesting because an idea Ben Hurst have the season 3 was that it was going to be revealed that Mobius wasn't actually a separate world but was actually a post-apocalyptic Earth and it would have been revealed that both Robotnik and Snivley were astronauts sent into space but because the 2 were in hypersleep the world's changed around that without them knowing a Nuclear war happend which lead to all the humans getting wiped out and the radiation ended up mutating the animal life into anthropomorphic animals and the animals then renamed the planet Mobius
@@williampulfer-melville8536 huh i never knew that but i always presumed it was a post-apocalyptic earth in which humanity returned to and began to colonise. Infinitely better writing than the joke of a series we have now.
My mother was actually a great fan of these 90s Sonic cartoons. I myself never really got into them.
I don't think the SatAM show will ever come back. Even if it did, I highly doubt it would do well. For three main reasons: People's way of thinking is entirely different to how it was back then, and I feel the show would be completely different from how it was in the 90s. Secondly, because of how long it's been since it last aired, they likely wouldn't have the same writers, and it'll end up being shit anyway. Finally, and the biggest reason is that things about the Sonic universe have been more or less codified now after so long. We have an idea in our heads of what Sonic is meant to be now, so a lot of people will watch it and be like, "what the hell is this? This isn't Sonic", and relying purely on the fans of the old series isn't going to cut it in terms of views I'm afraid.
The main writer for SatAM, Ben Hurst, died a few years after the show's cancellation, so it was going to be different regardless.
And as far the "That's not my Sonic" reaction, that's nothing new to the fandom. Despite how loudly some fans can got about things being different, they usually take it just because it's Sonic related.
The only real reason we haven't gotten a revival is because Sega of Japan has a grudge against their western media side. As well as have lots of weird rules and mandates regarding Sonic's personality and image.
The people saying "this isn't sonic" are either new to the series, very casual fans, or *extremely* dumb...
At this point, it's been long established that there is a whole multi-verse of Sonics. Shoot, even all three of the 90s cartoons are classifed as thier own distinct universes at this point... The BOOM series is its own universe. The newest netflix cartoon is all about traveling across the multiverse.
With this said, I've heard that Satam and the Archie comics are the same universe multiple times now. Supposedly, these comics were a continuation of the show.
Fun fact, several of the characters in Sonic SatAM were based on the little animal sprites that you save in the first game
Similarly to have Robotnik's minons on AoStH were based on actual enemies from the first game
Also the reason why Tails was so minor in Sonic SatAm was due to the show already being in development for some time when Sonic 2 came out
That's right Sally was actually based on the Chipmunks called Ricky Rotor was based on a little walrus called Rocky and Bunnie was based on the little rabbit whose name I can't remember though I still can't think of who Antoine was meant to be based on considering that isn't a little critter based on a coyote in the games
@@williampulfer-melville8536 Specifically, they were based on the western versions of these animals, which had different names than in Japan (the bunny was called Johnny Lightfoot iirc - he's the basis for Bunnie Rabbot). No idea if Antoine was based on any of them though.
Sonic SATAM had such a great theme song. I loved this show back in the day for being the 'dark alternative' to the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. I used to hold out for every episode thinking "this is the one where he will turn Super Sonic...."
I'm still waiting for a version of Super Sonic that matches the ultra dark, ultra violent, psycotic version from the Fleetway Sonic the Comic... its 29 years later, but a man can dream!
The 90s through early 2000s were pretty extreme and the only Cartoon Network show back then that is truly extreme is Code Lyoko, like XANA has truly nightmarish attacks and 1 is when he via spectre pins down a Sewer Rat with its little arms and enters through the mouth then eventually meets other rats and bites them spreading control as they become extremely hostile and due to XANA being a Multi Agent System, controls all of them independently and goes after the school, the most terrifying thing about them is a swarm of them moving in water. Oh and the next episode? Yeah XANA does this same attack on Hornets and remember what I said about the rats becoming extremely hostile and XANA controls them? Yeah that amplifies these Hornets and they go berserk and actually sting much faster than usual but the thing about XANA is he's a sadist, he isn't going to kill mindlessly if it ruins the fun for him.
Sally: *Casually approaches the screen*
Sonic SatAM is why I became an animator as an adult. It was the first cartoon to completely enchant me at 5 years old. After it was cancelled I spent my childhood and teen years feeling nostalgic for it. I would've thought it was a fever dream if it wasn't for the comics. The internet wasn't widespread yet so there was no easy way to rewatch it. Then when I was as an adult they put out a DVD set and boy, was that a trip to finally sit down and rewatch it all!
Adding onto your comment about Sonic SATAM getting a revival, there is an unofficial season 3 trailer that a large group of fans have been working on. The team even got Johnny Gioeli to sing the opening, hitting the notes nearly perfect for said song. (Vocalist of Crush 40)
Say what they want about Dr. Eggman's design in the _Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog,_ but if it wasn't for the show, then there would be no iconic "PINGAS!"
I'm not sure if I would count sonic underground. That was on the very cusp of 2000. Early 90's had the two sonic shows. You have the adventure one that tried to behave like looney toons. You then had the saturday drama one, arguably the best with some really well done scene. Also it had the best robotnik imo.
Fun fact: Gary Chalk, who voices Robotnik in Underground, was also the voice of Grounder in Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog, and is best known for his role of Optimus Primal in Transformers Beast Wars, and Optimus Prime in the Transformers Unicron Trilogy (Armada, Energon, and Cybertron).
There's actually another Web series called Sonic Colors: Rise of the Wisps just in case. I also actually enjoyed Sonic Underground especially the intro. Though I actually found and saw it in Netflix when it was in website form. I didn't play or really known much about Sonic at the time. So Sonic Underground and The Adventures Of Sonic were the only 90's cartoons I've seen. I do however with the power of the internet want to see the Saturday AM Sonic the hedgehog. Even more after your video!
Sonic Colors was on Netflix? I know some Korean web shows were on the app but wow. Maybe it depends on the country.
The animated short of Sonic Colors Ultimate was just for promotional purposes, mainly to help push the game.
@@ElectroBlastLuigi Ok I just noticed that the comment I made for you didn't upload? Wierd but ok. The Sonic Colors web series is free on UA-cam. I don't think it's on Netflix. I started talking about Netflix when mentioning where I saw the old 90's Sonic cartoon when I was little. Which Netflix was originally a website before becoming a big streaming platform where you could watch or rent series and movies. I hope I cleared a misunderstanding.
@@hectorirene763 Well yeah I know. It's the same with the Sonic Mania Web series. I just mentioned it because Steve said he was even gonna talk about the Mania Web series.
Sad that sally acorn is not in any recent sonic games or movies. I wish someone would bring her back
I miss her too, I didn't grow up on satam sonic but I do like the characters form it , when I was able to buy the complete DVD collection, ever heard of sea3on 3 , if not , I try looking it up sometime, IF You like sonic satam .. it's a fan project , But a REALLY WELL Done one still being made , u can find some videos about it on youtube, .. note/ it's Spelled SEA3ON not season, 🙂
If she appears in the games I actually think Cristina Vee the voice of Shantae and Marionette aka Ladybug would be perfect as Sally in the games
@@williampulfer-melville8536 I prefer Laura Bailey who voiced Chun-Li
@@antyep fair enough but you do know she did do the voice of Blaze the Cat a role that she recently quit voicing along with her husband Travis Willingham who did the voice of Knuckles
@@williampulfer-melville8536 Aw dammit…
I just got the Sonic the hedgehog tv show from the 90s and I still love it
it's funny you posted this tbh (for me anyway) as i just got back into the Sonic fandom and just finished re-watching SonicX, i was about to find a way to re-watch all the older sonic shows as well as Sonic was a huge part of my childhood lol so glad you posted this brings back alot of memories
Sonic Underground was basically my childhood. It was that, Star Blazers, and Rambo: the Force of Freedom.
Man, Jaleel White's voice for Sonia is him just using his Urkel voice, isn't it?
Yep and he also used that voice in the adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog for Sonic once in the episode where Sonic Tails and Robotnik get turned into babies by Robotnik's ageing Ray
It's *close,* but no banana...
When i was a Kid i Realy loved Sonic SatAM , its Realy Nostalgic for me
I remember being very young and watching both of the sonic shows as they were aired at the same time. I was so confused because they were so different and didn’t understand why there were two shows. I also remember reading the comics for years. I recently sold off a bunch of my childhood toys and collectibles which included these comics. In all, I think they were somewhere around 90 to 100 comics. I always looked forward to going to Walden books once a month to get the new comic. Wish I could go back……
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That episode really stuck with me too. I couldn't stop crying whenever I watched that episode. It even gave me nightmares for almost 2 months