Steve Reviews: The Iron Giant
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2019
- This week on Steve Reviews I look at the beloved classic, The Iron Giant. This is actually a film I had never got round to seeing beforehand, but I had seen it getting requested many times, so decided to see for myself what all the fuss was about....
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Interesting fact: The premise of the movie is based on a question, the question being is 'What if a gun didn't want to be a gun?'.
Why do you think guns jam? They are trying to resist
@@vapor-sings That explains the WW1 chauchat. It's French so it keeps trying to surrender.
@@AlibifortheAfterlife not trying to be that asshat who ruins the joke, but chauchat works quite fine on French's hands, it is because US soldiers recalibrated it to fire their ammunition where all the problems showed
@@infinitsai Yeah I know. Thanks for ruining the joke lol.
I saw the origin clip and yea its true
I don't feel cheated at all, I actually liked the more hopeful ending. And his regeneration was foreshadowed so it doesnt feel like an asspull
Dhaem16 also that doesn’t take away from the heroic act. The giant had no idea what was fired and for all he knew it could atomize him on contact.
Yep
I always felt it made sense. he's made by aliens and thus is probably not made of earth like metals. we only see his parts separate, they are never actually broke open.
Considering that Superman is a Jesus allegory, and the Iron Giant wanted to be Superman (and it was foreshadowed during the train scene) I think the ending is perfect. He dies saving everyone (this was placed during the coldwar, so there's a pretty good chance that missile would have set off a chain reaction of launches) and later is resurrected with his closest friend seeing the proof of his life. Symbolism is heavy handed but full circle.
I love the ending to as it goes well with what Hogarth said which was "souls don't die".
iron giant: *just in the city standing doing nothing*
the army: HeS aTtAcKiNg ThE cItY
I just want to imagine that Kent’s chin is a banana
Iron Giant: *rescues two boys from a dangerous fall and is praised as a hero*
Army: "He's just standing there, MENACINGLY!"
Vietnam: just trying to overthrow their oppressors and enact a new economic system
America: HeS aTtAcKiNg fReEdOm
That was the NVA and they were trying to oppose capitalism and make vietnam communist while killing hundreds of south vietnamese people and the US liking democracy decided to pull a "Democracy is non negotiable." And help out the southern vietnamese people.
@@raptorjesus5870 That worked out well. All they did was kill Vietnamese. They'd be better off not doing anything.
The mother being underdeveloped actually helps the feel.
As it lets the viewer feel how distance she is for her own son.
It shows and emotes that, she is comstantly occupied, the boy is alone, and thus desperate for a friend.
The "shehas to work late, thats why the boy is alone" momemts also fit better because of how theres some underdevelopement with the mother.
At least in my opinion
You can really tell in the twinke scene, honestly my favorite scene compared to the other emotionally heavy scenes.
A very interesting take on charter
This movie is my childhood
Not to mention it also rises the stakes when Kent threatens Hogarth to have him taken away from his mother. Because technically, he can. Since he has evidence that Hogarth was at the power station and can probably find some way to pin the incident on him, as well as the train wreck. And if word got out that these incidents were caused by some 10-year-old kid, people will start questioning what the mother was doing not watching her son. Therefore, social services may come to take Hogarth away as they see Annie as an unfit and neglectful mother.
I agree. I think one of the weaknesses of many stories, especially in movies/films where time is limited, is that the story spreads itself too thin to develop every character. This movie has a ton of characters who do have their own arcs, but does a great job focusing in on Hogarth, the Giant, and how the Giant interacts with the other characters/town. In fact, having characters with strong, not changing identities can really help provide proper reference points for other characters, and how they change relative to those around them, and also makes it clear which elements of the story is changing the main character. In this case, because the mom doesn't change, we can see all interactions of Hogarth and Mom as what they are in his everyday life, so it's clear that Dean and the Giant are the new elements changing Hogarth. When every character is changing all the time, it becomes harder to tell who influenced who, why things happen the way they do, etc etc.
The fact that he doesn’t actually die at the end is actually key. He didn’t have to sacrifice himself to stop that missile. He could have very easily blasted it out of the atmosphere with any of his weapons. He used himself because he chose to rebel against his nature. He didn’t have to die to be a hero, but was willing to, to show how much he was willing to sacrifice for the family and friends he’d made on a foreign world.
Never thought of it that way. The "I am not a gun" mentality really shines through that perspective and makes me want to cry watching that scene even more.
@@DARamosYT Means even more when you read up on Brad Bird's life & the personal tragedy that he used to inspire the message of this film.
I always assumed that the Giant may have not known that he'd be able to fix himself afterwards. Yeah, he could fix himself after a train hit him, but could he manage it after blowing up? Not to mention the added impact of falling back to earth? It's a big gamble and I believe the Giant was betting against his odds of survival. But he took the chance anyway, knowing he probably wouldn't survive.
I think its important he didnt die simply to prove a point that violence solves nothing, if Hogarth didnt give him a choice and the giant destroyed that ship in the end the bomb would only postpone the inevitable. love and thoughtfulness saved the world, not a bomb.
Aint his body everywhere like in Antarctica and Alaska and stuff
"Superman"
*cries like a toddler with a scuffed knee.
*cries like a shot toddler*
Same, yo. Same.
Same
I haven't seen this movie in YEARS and just seeing that clip made me wanna cry from nostalgia XD
Edit: @15:14 I was not prepared for the feels. I may have cried
Don't cry don't cry Goddammit me watching it like for the 20th time *"Superman"* FUUUUK! Me crying inside and outside
One of the most beautiful aspects of this movie is that Hogarth's father is never expressly mentioned, but it's the driving force behind the entire film. Why is his Mother working so often, why does Hogarth bond so intensely with the giant, why are they renting out a room? It's like Hogarth's father is really the absent main character.
It could be that he died. That kind of works with how Hogarth expressed death like he somewhat experienced it. He was probably too young to remember much of his father, but imagine his mother needing a reason to explain death to her young son.
I think he was a soldier who died in war. That's why he is so preoccupied with guns and stuff.
During one of the scenes that take place in Hogarth’s room - possibly more than once- there can be seen a framed picture of a man boarding what appears to be a fighter jet in one of those classic “turn back to ok at camera” poses.
I believe the implication is pretty strong that his father was a fighter pilot in the Korean War who got shot down and killed.
Probably his mom taught him that death isn’t bad because his father died in the war. We do see some framed pictures of a pilot in the house, and even Hogarth with a pilots helmet, never explicitly stated, but I’m pretty sure that’s his father.
I always thought it was moreso why Hogarth bonded so quickly with Dean who for all intents and purposes acted as a father figure to Hogarth, looking out for him, giving him a safe place to be, even having Hogarth asking him to come out and play at the lake. Seems he actually became a father to Hogarth in the end as well since the mom refers to him as "honey"!
Iron giant needs more love. It's an amazing movie, its AMAZING the lore, animation, and the PERSONALITY in these characters. Its action packed, it's scary in some bits!, and a do like a sad ending. But the cliff hanger at the end, and like the person explains there are deep meanings and lessons. I still haven't gotten over it in 7 YEARS.
I'm kinda irritated about the ending like there's no reason to end on cliffhanger if your not planning on a part 2 enless trolling people
@@SoulshadeVr101 i know! thats why i wanted a part 2 that never came out so badly that cliffhanger just made me so angry, its still and AMAZING movie though and still needs more love.
@@SoulshadeVr101 i think a second movie was planned but by some horrific turn of bad luck this masterpiece did awfully in the box office so it never happened unfortunately
@@TheGoodCrusader Yup!
@@killianmoore3044 a part 2 might ruin it. I’m cool with it just being what it is
Director: You can't make the audience cry with one word.
Giant: Superman
*sobs*
Every time I hear him say that I cry he's my childhood hero
😭
Pixar can make people cry with no words. UP
He even elongated his pronunciation of "Superman", almost as if saying "Oh yeah? Watch their reaction to this!"
The Giant coming back to life doesn't diminish his sacrifice. It wasn't like the Giant was aware he was going to live.
I think it's clear he thought It was the end
Eh, it does though. It really does.
If it was over then, it would have left things open afterwards. But instead the robot is still alive, everyone lived happily ever after.
@@NameName2.0 so? That's not always a bad thing. Besides a character surviving doesn't ruin the sacrifice if they went into fully prepared and expecting to die.
@@NameName2.0 I mean...for me, even though I know he comes back to life, the build-up and death of the Iron Giant still hits hard because of how attached I am at that point. I do agree that maybe an ending that subtly hints at the Giant's survival would've made it feel more hopeful, instead of explicitly telling you he's alive
@@NameName2.0 You also need to remember this is a kid's movie. End of Days style endings don't generally happen in kids films.
They quite literally teased him being able to fix himself how did you not see that happy ending coming?
That's one of my greatest gripes with this review plus the unfunny teasing of his death that should be played without commentary to get the umphh of the scene instead.
I feel like that scene where he puts himself together was to make the audience be sure that the giant wouldn’t die. It seems impossible. The only thing that could possibly kill him is something so big that it would destroy literally everything around it, like a nuke. Making the ending even more emotional. But, then the higher ups demanded a happier ending.
@sarahelucey corporate greed degrades the quality of everything. Welcome to 20th century America.
Fun fact: the scene where Hogarth explains death to I.G. is one that made everyone on the production team tear up. Ain't that something?
I would say it ain't (in meaning the polar opposite) entirely something else completely
Nah it was foreshadowed earlier when he repaired himself after getting hit by the train. It’s a perfectly fine ending. But I do agree maybe the nail just bleeping would have been better. When I was younger I always thought there was gonna be a sequel to the film because of that ending.
I heard somewhere that Brad Bird wanted to make a sequel at one point.
Though itd be really unnecessary imo
Wow, same. I remember myself as a kid saying that to my mom (asking if there was going to be a sequel)
Who knows. Maybe they were planning a sequel but since it did so poorly during its box office run any following would've been canned. So we're left with the suggestive ending.
it subverts the death-affirming message from before. i think that's a good thing.. (resurrection has become a bit of a trope with robot movies, but it may not have been back then.)
Agreed.
Fun fact: this movie was such an underrated gem. Cartoon Network did a 24 hour marathon of the Iron Giant a year later after its original movie released. Even they knew how good this movie was.
991yugioh oh god I remember that marathon it was amazing and probably the only reason I got to see it then.
Lol I thought I dreamed that marathon . :')
@@JayPalOfficial yes! After it finished, they played again from the beginning over and over again for the whole day! It was awesome.
@@JayPalOfficial yea
991yugioh I was just old enough to remember this they did it like six times and every time I would watch it in the morning go to kindergarten and return home and sadly enough that was the last time they did it, for reference the year was 2009 or 2010
Fun Fact: The old train engineer and the fireman were voiced by two of the then surviving members of Disney's Nine Old Men, Ollie Johnston and Frank Thomas. Brad confirmed that he was inspired by the two, so is nice to him honoring these two legends, and he did it once again with The Incredibles 5 years later.
The only movie that I wished there was a sequel during my childhood. It was a precious gem indeed.
Nah. Like The Secret of NIMH, the sequel would have been awful.
same 😔
I still can’t believe vin diesel was the voice actor for the Iron Giant.
Same it's pretty cool and crazy at the same time
Hanson Schmid it dosent make any sense.
Bro have you not heard this man in “pitch black” I deffinetly see it hahah
The person who played Iron Giant also played the Groot in Marvel.
Hanson Schmid it was vin diesel best work
I don't think the ending allowing the Giant to reassemble himself and survive the blast takes away from the movie in any way. In fact I think it makes it even better, and I think this quote explains it better than I could:
"Because it's a book about a man who doesn't know he's about to die and then dies. But if the man does know he's going to die and dies anyway, dies willingly, knowing he could stop it, then... I mean, isn't that the type of man you want to keep alive?"
-Kay Eiffel, Stranger than Fiction
It might not make sense given that it's in the context of its own film, but the point still stands. The thing that makes the Giant's actions so emotionally powerful is not the fact that he's going to die; it's the fact that he is ready and willing to give his life to save his friend and even the people who attacked him.
He's never seen a nuclear weapon, so when the person he trusts most tells him that it's going to kill absolutely everyone, he has no reason to believe he won't be obliterated beyond repair when he flies up there to stop it. The result of his actions are of course relevant, but not nearly so much as the intent behind them. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." And as implied by the movie quote above, the sacrifice doesn't necessarily have to result in death; it's still just as powerful (and I believe in this case even more so) that the Giant survived. A type of poetic justice as it were, because if anybody deserved a happy ending it was him.
The movie would be so much worse without that final scene. We all know in real life heroic sacrifices aren't generally survivable. In our fantasy worlds, we can have our cake and eat it too, as it were. And it's never a bad idea to end a movie on a happy note.
But hey, this is just my opinion.
Argonwolfproject wow thats something else
this is the best description of the ending ive ever seen
It was also important to have the train scene where he got destroyed but rebuilt, letting the audience know first hand he has that ability. However by the time the missile came, that scene was long gone we forgot that he had that ability so we thought he would be destroyed for good, until the beeping in Hogarth's room started. That's when we knew and remembered that the giant is still not dead, and it wasn't even a Deus Ex Machina copout because it was established earlier that the giant can in fact do that.
Damn right 👍🏻
Yeah plus we were shown that the robot can just repair itself. I liked the happy ending, especially ifI were a child I would've been extremely happy.
I was actually really happy with the ending of him being put back together even as an adult.
As a kid, I needed the happy ending. It would have traumatized me otherwise.
I love the ending honestly. The message is that the soul never dies, and I think it holds true even with that. The giant intends to sacrifice himself, learning from the lesson in the deer scene that death isn't always bad. He didn't make his sacrifice thinking he'd survive, but he did, which doesn't take away from the nobility of his character in my opinion.
^ This
Also seeing how the snow and mist allmost make him look like he is in heaven... Making the point he earned his soul be saving many and that his "death" would be for the greater good...
"Rattatoullie... which was 'okay', i guess"
*You initiated a gang war*
Lol
My reaction: *YOU FOCKIN WOT M8*
"So you have chosen death"
I’d pick that “Confit byaldi” movie over incredibles any day... mostly because I’m a cook myself, but let’s not get into the details.
Ya anyone who says Ratatouille is "okay" needs to go back to the drawing board on what make films great cause even if you don't like it, it's an objectively well made film
Every time I see the giant go into his enraged state I get chills. The way they drew it, and the vocal delivery by Diesel of the giant’s gut wrenching rage is awe inspiring. A true representation of what happens when you take away someone’s reason to be a man vs a monster.
Kent was unironically my favorite character in the film. I loved how well they treated all the characters and Kent is one of them. He portrays the fear perfectly while also being hilarious. He's basically the definition of being reasonably unreasonable
Iron Giant is a better Superman film than Man of Steel.
Nothing but facts
Dumb and Dumber is a better Superman film than Man of Steel and Superman wasn't involved in any way.
@Jacob Wood Why?
Not a fact. It’s an opinion
G B not opinion, fact
Man of steel or giant of iron
The ending was made if it “needed” a sequel
Definitely needed.
Its needed
THE E.R ROOM unfortunately, Brad Bird has gone on record saying that he will never make a sequel
@@VILEMasterShake **gun loading noises** *it will happen*
@@weezybfree ill get the baseball bat
People honestly feel they got cheated with the ending? Seeing that goofy smile brought even MORE tears to my eyes! Even though I know it'll be a happy ending, my heart still breaks every time he brings that line back. "You stay. I go. No following".
I suppose I could understand the argument if his regen power came out of nowhere, but it doesn't. Most viewers probably forgot about it after the train scene (I know I did). Being reminded in the end made that scene even more powerful!
Maybe it's part of movie critic culture these days to want something more abstract, making anything slightly familiar seem "overdone". But in my book, this is a kids movie with some extremely mature themes and believable characters. The ending doesn't take away from the giant's sacrifice, it mends a broken heart. If anything it made the movie a pleasure to watch that leaves you with a good feeling, instead of a pit in your stomach.
Let's face this guys. The Iron Giant is no longer a forgotten underrated film. Now, it's has become basically an animated phenomenon. The Iron Giant has received universal critical praise, it has sold millions of copies on DVD, VHS and Blu-Ray, it has been referenced in countless TV-shows and movies(most notably Ready Player One) and has been considered as one of the greatest animated films of all time, alongside Spirited Away and The Lion King.
The train scene foreshadowed the giant coming back to life.
That's definitely true
@@SushiManSoda That's exactly what he said tho
Said every person who doesn’t think it’s sad. (It’s true)
It did, and was also necessary so the ending wasn't a Deus Ex Machina copout to establish first hand that the giant can in fact rebuild himself.
@@Envy_the_Darksider good point.
vin diesel got paid a shit ton of money to say less than 10 words
Vin diesel is a genius
Iron Giant, Groot, he's just like, "if I don't speak less than the dictionary knowledge of a toddler, I'm out" (Well except for the fast and furious movies).
Ironically, all of my favorite films he's in are the ones where he barely says a thing
did he really? This was before Fast and Furious, IDK how much he got paid, but he wasn't nearly as big a deal back then.
Are we talking about this movie or Guardians of the Galaxy...? 🤔🤣
In all seriousness though, he was awesome as Groot.
This movie was and still is my childhood favorite, I was born 2004 but when my mom showed me this movie, and as child, this show me that I can choose to who I can be. This will always stay as number to me for childhood movies.
Interesting detail, the motorcycle Dean is on has the throttle on the left side which was accurate for bikes back then.
I remember actually watching this in a doctor's office, but the TV's audio was messed up so the voices seemed muffled and the Iron Giant's mechanical movements were the only things clearly heard. It made it seem like you were watching it from the view of the Iron Giant which was way more endearing in a sense.
That's kinda cool.
Vin Diesels famous lines
- Superman
- you'll always be my brother
- i am grout
:(
What can I say? He is grout.
@@thewholecircus We are Groot. -Groot
But nothing is stronger than family
What's the second one from
I remember when i rewatched the movie (shortly after the first time) to show it to a friend, at the end she was bawling and hugging a pillow, and when the bolt scene happened I'll never forget the transition to a sobbing happy smile. That was magical AF and made the rebuilding plot absolutely worth it.
The Iron Giant is and will always be a magnificent classic that I hope kids continue to watch for decades to come.
"You stay. I go. No Following."
EleriDragonfly Superman... 😭
DON’T REMIND US OF THIS LIKE THAT
Don’t make me cry plz
That is a cheap punch and you know it.
I remember swallowing back the tears in the theater. Lost it at “Superman”
Iron Giant is 20 years old!? God I'm getting old. Also that Spongebob joke 😂
SuperfluousStuckupitude yeah
We all getting old 😂
SuperfluousStuckupitude I was 14
@@darkmya19 I was 10 when it came out
Actually it's 19 and 8 months years old oof
not quite theres like 8 months till its 20
I definitely shed a single tear at the “Superman” ending scene.
Seeing this movie again really hit me, harder than ever before. The last time I saw it I was still young. I hadn't felt the deep pain of losing someone then. Seeing it again now, I feel a rush of so many intense emotions. This movie is beautiful. Thank you for reminding me of it.
The final 15 seconds were foreshadowed in the train wreck scene when the Iron Giant was able to rebuild himself.
I don't feel like it was a cheat, I feel like it was not meant to be a story about accepting death but hope to be able to change who you are for the better and be happy. With acceptance of death possibly being a fake out/plot twist, leading everyone to accept his death before the upswing of happiness when you find out he is alive.
For a kid's film it is nice to have a happy ending since most sad ending movies seem to emotionally scar some people and the sad scene is usually all anyone remembers. (cough cough -bridge to terrabithia/bambi/old yeller/My girl-).
Yeah from a train impact, not a NUKE
@@croc560 to be fair and balanced (tm) the nuke does scatter him across the planet, and he's shown to be far more resilient to shit exploding at him than your average human vehicle, taking a whole bunch of gunfire from tanks, jets, and a battleship, and at best getting knocked down out of the sky or staggered.
Oh, and falling from orbit only dented his head and, ocean or not, that's a pretty steep fall. He's made of some pretty durable material, clearly.
Maybe he was just built in such a way that his limbs would blow apart in the face of a force that could physically overwhelm him, so that he'd have a better chance at being able to self repair?
@@croc560 Nobody seems to pick up on this, but it's actually clearly established that the giant is indestructible/self repairing from the VERY OPENING of the film. A nuke is more than getting hit by a train, sure, but it's NOT more than.... CRASHING INTO PLANET EARTH AT 20,000 MILES AN HOUR. Giant brushes off re-entry like it's nothing. It's no surprise he can take a nuke and keep going.
And, especially during the first reassembly with the last piece being the jaw screw, and having that come back at the end, I think it's pretty obvious they had him coming back from the earliest storyboards.
@@Timestamp_Guy and he’s like obviously an alien or made by aliens
@@Timestamp_Guy Yes. I'm glad it was established, but it would've worked better if it were more subtle
“Welcome to down towns coolville”
Population us
POPULATION *US*
*POPULATION US*
I was gonna say it but I see I was beat to it “population us!”
Love those lines!
I watched this movie way back when I was a little kid. I remember I liked it back then but didn't remember much else. Just watched it again with my 4 year old. He usually won't sit through a whole movie. This film had his attention start to finish, and I realized watching it again how great it is. Awesome animation style, score, and a great message. 9/10!
Sad fact: when Brad Bird started working on the movie, he was still dealing with the death of his sister Susan, who was shot and killed by her estranged husband. I think that's where he got the idea for death and grief to be a prominent part of the movie.
Steve: "Rattatouille... which was "okay", I guess..."
Me: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. How dare you.
Why is noone else talking about this.
It's ok, dude
Your not alone👍
Me too....
Bruh my opinion of this dude totally flip flopped when he said this. Ratatouille is also a classic.
Ratatouille won an Oscar you fool.
Oh cool, the version you saw had the Giants dream sequence in it. The original didn’t have it, I think it was cut from the script. but Brad Bird brought the original animators back to make the cut scene for the rerelease
Denise Thasder I was about to say, I don’t remember that scene at all.
I hated the addition. We don't need to know the Giant is the first of many, because it leaves holes in the story. This is ONE GIANT and we couldn't scratch his chassis, we even blew him up with a nuke and it didn't stick. And a whole army is coming? The ending will be mass genocide. No. DON'T explain where he came from.
Yea not a fan of the additional scene.
Yeah when I first saw it I didn’t remember the dream sequence I still didn’t know there was a dream sequence
@@moonymonster major salt. Personally, I think that the scene was a decent addition. It bothered me a lot that we never knew where the giant came from. It could definitely have used some tweaking though.
I get that some of his actions would seem weird but Dean is one of my absolute favourite characters! He‘s funny and relatable and genually really nice. Also I think he was the one who actually told hogarth that you can be who you want to be.
Yeah, personally, as a 30something weirdo with frustrated artistic aspirations I find him pretty darn relatable lol
@@riabouchinska lol
I think as a kinda fatherlike figur for Hogarth he was also kinda unique, he was pretty laid back and cool outside of his moments of social awkwardness, while being rather responsible and reasonable, not falling into the typical adult traps in cartoons.
He’s my favorite character
Fun fact: the twist ending where it turns out the giant is alive is a reference to old 50's horror and B movies where the monster is revealed to be alive.
during the scenes before his death I was dead ass crying to my boyfriend "He just wanted to be a good boy and help people!" then he said super man I burst into even more tears, I was crying really hard. I also cried when he was called a gun and he said he doesn't want to hurt people or something of that sort
s u p e r m a n
@@Alleriian my heart
@@epkurnissheoway *blows up*
@@Alleriian I am drowning in my tears
I found it moving too love this movie!
The ending is... mixed for me. As a kid, "Yay! He's alive!" As an adult, I agree that it does muddle the message a little. Also, a nuclear bomb couldn't stop him! If there's an invasion, eath is Doomed!
yes but as an adult you're also able tp realise that he didn't know that he was not going to die, he remembered that "killing is bad. to die is not bad" and was at peace with dying for everyone
The evidence suggests that the Giant got to Earth by accident. Why would an alien race just send one machine to conquer the planet? It's a ridiculous strategy.
Besides, if an invasion force attacked, they would be destroyed on the ground, which would mean that the pieces would be far less spread apart, so the military could easily take the separate parts and seal them away permanently if they became too much of a threat.
Honestly, there's no way the aliens that made the Giant would invade Earth. This movie isn't intended for something like that.
@@warrioroflight6872 He could have been a scout. It could have been like DBZ where Earth was seen as harmless, so send one guy to easily conquer it. Only to have him get a bump on the head and forget his mission.
As for the military collecting the parts, I doubt the Giants would give them the chance!
@@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639 actually in a deleted scene where the giant was dreaming and his dream was showing up on the T.V,it shows that there was a whole army of them,and that they invade en masse to destroy a whole planet so imagine that,these giants are capable of surviving a nuclear blast,pice themselves back together,shoot a blast that is large enough to possibly erase the west coast of the united states,and that was just one of them, imagine a whole army of them
@@aestheticswim3397 Exactly!
Steve: ratoutoulie is fine
Me: no
Shaiffralis productions: well Steve...
I may already be an adult, but the final scene still makes me smile like my 6-year-old self
I think the happy ending is perfectly fine. It's not much of a cheat, since we saw the robot had self-repairing functionality, and there's no reason something as mundane as a nuclear missile would destroy an intergalactic planet-crushing robot.
Simply put; sappy but not out of nowhere. It makes perfect sense.
It works in that it doesn't end up being a deux ex machina, but it still defeats the message about death the movie was going with. I guess maybe a happy in-between would be the ending he suggested in the video.
I still laugh about the idea of the robot coming back but it's just a radioactive mess that you can't be near or interact with and it's just our iradiating everything
@@manofman5609 id assume that he has some form of radiation shielding given that he had to travel through space? maybe the metal he's made from doesn't absorb or he turns the energy into power for himself? Idk i feel a circa-1960's-ish earth made nuclear missile aint gonna really do a whole lot.... other than scatter his parts obviously
@@sourpuss5951 There's people that return to life after being clinically dead. That end was that.
i completely get your point, but when i was a kid i was grateful for the last scene, and i ultimately think that is why it was there, kids films are not necessarily made for critical adults 20 years in hindsight, as much as you and i may wish them to be when we watch them back.
i still think the ending was god and i hope the make iron giant 2 this or next year!
I think just a beeping bolt going into grass would've been a great hopeful ending without giving a true guarantee that he's alive
@@jesserenfro9180 I can get behind that
Dude, you lost me at Ratatouille. That film has as many layers as an onion. It can be recontexualized as a commentary for the cinema, as the predicted cautionary tale of the direction of Disney as a company, as reflection of artists in general, and it's admirable also for its use of imagery to represent flavor. I LOVE also its ACCURATE depiction of cooking as an art. It's one of the best edutaining films out there. How many films do you know of that teach real facts in its narrative?
8:15 deadly foreshadowing
eh, i think the happy ending was a good thing. not only was it cathartic, it didn't take away from the INTENT behind the giant's sacrifice. the giant thought he would die and did the superman thing anyway, and THAT'S what matters most. plus there was that message of "souls don't die" and death not being completely bad, which could be interpreted as a message of rebirth or reincarnation. the permanence of the soul contrasted with the fragility of the body. not only that, but the giant's ability to rebuild was already established in the film. it wouldn't have made sense not to have that pay off.
...plus i think happy endings get a bad rap. we're used to the taste of bittersweetness, so full-on sweetness comes off as sugary.
That wasn't the original ending the canon ending hit harder all the symbolism really is a higher note. With this ending I cried as a child but kid me wanted him to survive cuz the iron giant was misunderstood. Is rather believe he parishes saving the town from a nuke. Especially since a sequel wasn't made but he is a alien so he may have been more resistant than we know.
“Superman”
And just like that, ladies and gentlemen, I have a serious case of crippling depression
Last time I watched this movie it actually made me go through like 5 months of some of the worst deppresion I've ever had
Same!
Now in Multiverse they are fighting side by side!
@@Person-wz6iy true I hope he’s in the full game
16:40 I have a feeling that the ending was a result of studio meddling. It's not a sequel thing it's that they're paranoid about sad endings.
7:36
It was established that it was hiding in the woods and hogarth lives in a more isolated area near the woods so when it was established the giant was in the woods then its only logical the only phone near by would be the house it was approaching later when it was following hogarth home. And it just so happened there were train tracks in the same direction of hogsrths house. So it makes sense actually
The train thing and him reassembling himself would be a pointless part of the story without that ending.
Though a being hit by train and reassembling himself vs a nuke is way more believable. Such a small character detail being brought back up as an attempt not to be pointless is a terrible ending in comparison to devaluing the message the movie is trying to deliver
@@NoodleGoblin It doesn't devalue anything, we all know real heroic sacrifices almost always result in death, but this is fiction. Knowing he was willing to give his life is more than enough for me, and the twist happy ending is a perfect way to wrap up such an emotional film.
Also... he's a ROBOT, come on, it's called suspension of disbelief. The guns used by whatever they were on his own planet were probably as strong as a nuke, maybe they were built to self repair after an explosion, because it's a war robot built for massive scale war. This never threw me off, I already knew from the train scene that he would be repaired, and when Hogarth receives the little bolt they found, it just confirmed it for me; even if they didn't show the bolt leaving on its own and the scene in the snow, I would have automatically made the conclusion because if that bolt survived it he'll be fine based on multiple scenes showing his parts are all remotely controlled (not just the train scene but the hand wandering his house later too).
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Considering he did fall to Earth like a god damn meteorite I can see how he could survive a nuke i guess
this is the new directors edition with extra scenes. the original didnt have him dreaming
Yea I watched a disc and it was laggy but it was original
Dreaming??
And who?
I know Brad Bird was specifically putting an anti-gun message into this film due to what happened to his sister, and I appreciate that - but I always preferred to think of the Giant as a peaceful explorer who, if pushed, could defend himself - so I'm not a fan of the deleted scene showing him as a soldier in a war machine.
Yeah I don’t remember that part at all from when I was young. And I watched this movie so much I remembered pretty much everything
My all time favorite movie as a kid! I wish I still had the huge iron giant action figure, I bet it's worth a good bit now!
I still remember crying at the end
Even better when you realize Vin Diesel is the Iron Giant’s voice.
The memory scene wasn’t in the movie when I was young, maybe it was just the TV release or added in later.
It's actually in the special edition DVD
Naw really that cant be right...
Ok i ran over to imdb to check this shit and omg how did he not get an Oscar
I didn't have it either.
daniel gwinn voice of Groot and The Giant. Though the effects make it different. When you know it’s him makes it more awesome and funny.
Yup same here never seen that scene
This movie is actually based off of a book also called the iron giant, Hogarth is in the book as well. but the difference between the book and movie is at the end, there is no nuke, there is a huge bat kaiju called a star creature, and the iron giant, determined in saving the earth to eat more metal, challenges the star monster to a competition to who can withstand touching the sun longer, which the iron giant wins, sending the monster plummeting down to earth.
What the actual fuck? lmao no way is that in the book
The original book is called the iron man name was changed So it wouldn't be mistaken for the marvel iron man
@@Alleriian dragons.fandom.com/wiki/Space_Bat_Angel_Dragon
The 2 remaining brain cells left in my body have abandoned ship
Yep, I didn't read the book but my 4th/5th grade teacher read it out to us. That Space Bat Angel Dragon was a formidable creature that came to Earth because it was excited by the warfare going on and it wanted to take part. Thankfully, the Iron Man stopped him through the burning pyre challenge.
I do believe the sequel novel, The Iron Woman, was an even weirder novel that was quite heavy handed with its environmental message. My aforementioned teacher didn't want to continue reading it out to us when she reached the part where the wildlife was suffering from all the pollution.
Spoiler Alert: I skipped to the back of The Iron Woman and apparently the Iron Man gets married to the Iron Woman. That would be a very weird movie to watch if they did a sequel to the Iron Giant based on it, lol.
The Iron Giant is almost like a Disney film: Warner Bros version.
It has darker moments about the deer scene about "guns" can kill.
I know. People shouldn't using guns to harm one or another. It clarifies of violence
never solves any problems. This PG rated movie makes the most recognizably sadden even the ending just so devastatingly sadden. Brad Bird is a creative ingenious.
Very important that everyone knows that the giant's dream after the souls don't die scene is a deleted scene that was added back in and is only seen in pirated versions from a specific blu-ray directors cut version.
But I loved the end. It's cheesy yes but having watched this movie so much as a kid that our VHS is worn to all hell and barely viewable these days and it was always nice being able to see he was happy.
I'm about 99% sure the ending was always intended since we had an establishing scene about the giants auto repair function.
I think a sequal was intended, but due to the timing of iron giants release, and critics bombing it, it didn't perform so well in the box office. so they nixed that idea
You have absolutely no idea how happy you just made me. This movie was my entire childhood.
Same my dude
Also Stallion of Cimarron and Prince of Egypt they are animation and soundtracks at it's finest, also my childhood.
Facts
I had this on vhs as a kid and still remember it to this day and saw this pop up in my recommended. Thank you
For as many reviews as I've seen over the years of this film, I've never watched it in full. Love the messages presented, and the casting seems like it was an excellent fit. Nice review!
Naw, I still like the ending. I can't even say how happy it made me when I was a kid. Because let me tell you, before that part, I was in tears.
I loved the ending as a kid, and I still love it as an adult.
As a kid I just didn't want the Giant to be dead, and having confirmation that he wasn't felt great.
-It made we want to see the movie again and again.
As an adult, I see where you wanted this film to go, and how it could teach a lesson about death, but I don't think that was the film's intent.
Th Iron Giant shows us that communication is better than fighting.
Hogarth taught the giant about Earth things, rocks, trees, comics, death, etc. Hogarth risked his life between the army and the giant's battle form just to convince him to stop.
And in the end it was Hogarth's conversations with the giant that built their friendship and convinced him to risk his life to save the town.
The ending where the giant is put back together gives the audience hope he may find his friend Hogarth once again.
and having confirmation that he wasn't ' felt great. '
@@staypuft5879 What?
It rly gives u a hope after all sadness.. best ending ever in a movie
I remember some odd years ago I went to the Dallas Museum of Art with my family and the art director for this film was giving a presentation on the film and his influences... I've been kicking myself ever since I realized the amazing amount of emotion and plot development that this film portrayed, if only I could go back and tell my younger self to just "go sit down and learn some amazing things from this genius!".
you got disappointed by the Giant being alive? Dang man, cold.
I never really saw a problem with the end. We get an example of his regenerative powers after the train scene so the ending wasn't really shoehorned in. It also doesn't take away from the death scene because he could have very well have died and was willing to do so. In fact we don't see all of his parts return so it's even possible that some of them just didn't return. I think the reason why I was least bothered by this ending as opposed to the happy endings I felt were shoehorned into other movies, is because it doesn't just leave you with a 'yay, he's still alive' feeling. Instead, it's a feeling of 'his story isn't over, and he has more lives to impact', and I think that's really why I was excited instead of disappointed by the end.
This is exactly how I feel about this TBH.
but one of the big points is that death isnt always the worst thing ever, and how he was ready to die, and did die, it showed his death allowed all those humans to live
@@Greggers1516 He didn´t die, he clearly was ready to repair itself, and we never got even a hint about the outcome of that.
It could range from it going back town with unknown consequences to it having to fight the invasion of the one of its kind to the planet.
Rotsuoy and also the fact that he might not get back to Hogarth cause of how far away he is
I dont know i think it would have been better without the last scene. Bittersweet like he said. Kinda like gravity falls, would have been more impactful with the bittersweet moment.
*Superman...*
- The Iron Giant, 1999
1954*
That's when the movie takes place
Darth Hue But the character was made in 1999
Soy Latte but the movie takes place in 1954
Darth Hue 1957
I remember when I was crying in the theater in front of finding dory because the ending was just so sweet, I am the biggest man child
Just found your channel and 4 vids deep and found this, I absolutely love that you covered my favorite film as a kid
That part where the iron giant had memories of his past is actually a bonus scene added in for a directors cut blu-ray/dvd released just a few years ago. There’s also a couple other scenes that are new too. I’m happy they decided to finish and include a couple deleted scenes which I think added more to the story. I saw the original movie on dvd back in 2002 (too young to see it in theatres) and I loved it. After seeing it for so many times it’s easily one of my fav animated movies. Seeing the directors cut was like seeing it for the first time all over again. I cry every time
That explains it. I had it on DVD as a kid in the early 2000s. And I think its not the only scene. I think the soul discussion and intaragation. And possibly its my sculpture "the iron giant" I remember some of them on the deleted scenes.
ohhh wow thank you, i was sitting here going "i never saw that scene once in my life is this some weird alternate dimension" lmao
I have a special edition DVD that doesn't have this, so it being a special directors cut specific scene makes sense. I loved Thai movie so much as a kid and my sisters and I rewatched it so much that our VHS is worn to all hell, barely viewable now.
I rewatched it recently, and was wondering how I missed a scene after watching the movie like, 20x as a kid on VHS. I really like the scene since it shows that he not only defied his destructive nature (the fight at the end), but that he even threw away what was likely his original purpose, being a weapon. He wasn't just some robot with weapons, based on that scene, he was made to be a weapon himself, which really drives home the you are who you choose to be message.
I’m a man I don’t cry
“Superman...” **EXPLOSION**
Me; **Niagara falls**
I was the thing that made water probably when I saw that scene
Still cry
I am so proud that I was one of the people to watch this in cinema, it's always been a favourite of mine and I'm glad he survived in the end.
When I was a kid, I liked every bit of it, even the part where I got this in a CD form in a metallic like casing. I watched repeatedly dozens of times. Eventually life went on, CD was lost. Many years have past and the cartoon comes to mind once in a blue moon, perhaps hoping for a part 2 to come.
I like the ending because it makes sense it’s a robot made by smarter and stronger creatures than humans so of course it would survive a nuke also it dosent take away from the fact that he still sacrificed himself to save the town
why wouldnt he just shoot the missile
@@leonleon665 you know what you right that robot dumb af
@@leonleon665 Because he didn't want to use weapons.
@@kingkiller5325 oh right thx
Giant: crashes into earth at 20,000 MPH and is completely unscratched
steve: 😁👍
Giant: survives nuclear bomb
steve: 😳👎
🤷♂
You should review Treasure Planet.
YES
Please yes
Yeah
@Samuel Fontaine People have looked up why it failed and the discovery is pretty disgusting. The guy in charge of Disney Studios at the time saw hand-drawn 2D animation as a dying breed and wanted to cash in on the success with CGI animation. So he assigned the release of the movie to directly compete with Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. Two huge titles that he knew Disney would struggle against. It's a great movie and there's so much detail in it.
There's a video BREADSWORD did for it called "Treasure Planet - Disney's Biggest Mistake" you should check out.
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I’m 28 I watched this as a kid and cried and now watching this review started crying at the superman bit again :/ I mean I took it like a man.....
As a little kid when this came out originally, I think I was 5-ish, I remember going to the theatre opening day in my town with my mom and we were the only 2 people in the theatre. We both loved it. It's since been a movie that I've told tons of people about even right out of the theatre.
I think the reason that Hogarth says death isn’t always a bad thing because his dad died in WW2
Edit: Yeah, it’d be the Korean War. I misread the dates.
I thought he died in the Korean war. I remember seeing a documentary about the movie and they had a little Easter egg of his dad being a pilot in the war. In hogarths room is a pilot's helmet next to an f86 saber.
Hogarth would have to be born in the 40's then but no because if he was he would be a teen or so in the 60's
Death might not always be a bad thing, but it's never a good thing either.
The timeline doesn’t fit. It would be Korean War.
I don't remember that dream sequence
*looks it up*
(NEW SCENE).
Huh, that explains it.
Preston Jones yeah, me too
Yeah to think about it actually, I love this movie and i dont remember that scene .
In what collected version does that scene exist? All these years of watching it on this one DVD I have and I never knew it existed, wtf
@@RoseyRaptor I have a DVD with the dream sequence. The signature edition.
@@LloydTheZephyrian Gonna look into this. Tysm!
The Iron Giant leaves a special place in my heart. I grew up with this, and I'm glad we all appreciate the respect and the moral of the story that it deserves also best video of this channel 10/10 keep up the good work
6:26 Iron giant is true Slav, he squats with heels on ground.
10:59 Not framed.
"You can't' protect him, Hogarth. Any more than you can... protect your mother."
"My mom?"
"Ah, it's difficult to raise a boy all alone. We can make it more difficult. In *fact* we can make it so difficult that it would be irresponsible for us to leave you in her care. You'll be taken away from her, Hogarth."
"You can't do that!"
"Oh, we can, and we will!"
I always saw this as a bluff, because I thought it meant raising the living standards for every family in the country. And there's no way the government would be able to handle that.
I love how this movie wasn't afraid to express a religious point of view to explain why death isn't the end.
It doesn't really matter whether you're the religious type or not, the movie was seriously deep at that point and it was impressive that they were actually willing to make that decision rather than being too scared of being different from most other films these days.
Hogarth had already proven that his family was Christian with saying Amen before eating dinner. So it would make sense that he would believe in souls.
The resurrection theme really spoke to me. You can’t keep a good Man down.
Yeah their family was religious, but I also feel that fit with a spiritual perspective too! It's great, man. Such a masterpiece!
I've just seen you in another iron giant clip giving different attacks he has names and I'm freaked out now
It’s sweet that both religious and secular people can find so much comfort in this film :)
7:29 Those train drivers are easter egg appearances from legendary disney animator duo: Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston. Same appearance happens when they win the giant robot at the end of The incredibles movie. There are those 2 old men who look just like the train drivers from Iron Giant :D
I watched this yesterday and I love it so much! It’s so underrated it needs to be recommended more!
"Ratatouille (...) was okay, I guess."
EX-FLIPPING-CUSE ME?
Mine too.
Ratatouille is by far one of my favorite Pixar films! I used to watch it every other day when I got on DVD. So screw this British Squidward, lol.
I agree with him on this. Ratatouiile TRIED to be its generation's Iron Giant, in part hoping to teach about acceptance...however it went happy go lucky over "I'm not crying, YOU'RE CRYING 😭😭😭" which was its downfall at the end.
@@SegaDisneyUniverse He legitimately sounds like that! I was hoping I was not the only one who noticed that!
@@NickCamokidVisneski So, are you saying that it's good or bad?
As powerful as the Giant's sacrifice scene was, the scene that really made me tear up was where Hogarth explains to him what soul is.
By the way, I think the best way to experience this movie is in the middle of the night.
I had this movie on DVD as a kid in the early 2000s I don't remember the soul scene being in the final cut. I remember that in the deleted scenes
Even the crew working on the movie said to have cried when watching the scene
@@railroadmillion681 That’s something great to know, thanks for that!
Ive been looking for this for years
Thank you
Maybe ill watch it again when i have time
:)
I always thought even as a kid that the ending was to set up a sequel that never happened