The Newsroom - Booing a Gay Soldier
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- September 23rd, 2011. Was anybody surprised when the Republican Party primary voters booed a soldier in combat? Was anybody (anybody) really surprised that none of the pre-candidates sided with the soldier?
"How many different kinds of disgusting do you have to be to boo a man who volunteered to fight and die for you?" Perfect line!
+Erik T ask any hippie who spit on soldiers coming back from Vietnam.
@104125605797827274966
then be pissed at the people who sent them. plus, why is it ok to spit on a soldier from Vietnam but considered to be a crime to do it to a gay soldiers?
Be pissed at the people who sent them? Undoubtedly. But are the soldiers excused simply because they were following orders? Not really, I wouldn't say they are evil or what they did was completely in the wrong. But they were not heroes, they were not protecting their countries interests properly. I would neither spit on them nor salute them, it's a grey area and i'll treat it as such.
It is both a crime to spit on a gay soldier and viet vet, it's assault and the circumstance doesn't change the outcome.
+hint0122 - Short answer...it isn't OK to do either.
+Erik T The army/ marines is about brotherhood, it isn't about feeling good about yourself and upholding the new chic trends.
The saddest part of that was the booing was not fictional. At a GOP primary debate in 2012, republican supporters booed a soldier serving in combat because he was gay.
Because this was taken from a real footage of that debate :|
Wait is that for real???
@@maifa9922 Yeah sadly there were people who were low enough to boo an american soldier based upon his sexual preference rather than his character.
Having volunteered to serve his character wasn't much in question, their character was quickly shown to be lacking, however.
There were like 2 people who were assholes. Fuck off
yes, and did any of those candidates stand up to those 2 people? i mean you can clearly hear more than 2 but let's call it a very vocal but very small minority. in which case it should be hella easy for any of those candidates to step up and tell those people off. but none of them did, because they're cowardly shitbirds.
As a former infantry soldier for more than 10 years, having trained and served with units from the 25th Inf. Div. to the 101st. ABN (Air Assault) I can tell you not once did it cross my mind if the soldiers I trained with were gay or straight. The only thing we cared about was doing our job the best we could and being ready to go together side by side
Had a soldier who was transgender in my platoon. I was up at JBER and despite being one of the best soldiers we had, they went out of their way there to kick the soldier out. Pissed me off. You see a lot of people saying “none of this matters in the military”, but that’s not at all true. There were some real bigoted pieces of shit in Alaska.
Barry Winchell, 1999. 101st ABN, killed by a platoon member for dating a TG woman. It may not have crossed your mind, or mine, but I assure you, it crosses many other's minds. It's a sad state that is definitely getting better, but we're not there yet unfortunately.
If it hypothetically were to cross your mind, I hope nothing would have changed either way.
Thank you for your service, sir.
@@canorth i guess the difference on your example was that the transgender person was outwardly transgender? I guess it's fine to most people if it's something that can be hidden.. But it's a different story if someone were transgender like in your example, or perhaps if they were "camp" that would be an issue too. Still seems a little like the don't ask don't tell mentality.
As a combat veteran.... if you'tr gay, lesbian, transexual, bisexual, etc..... if you know how to use a weapon to preserve a life, you have my support.
Alpha Bet Thank you, that's a great comment.
Except they don't have Trump's and when the king makes a proclamation, all of the lemmings fall in line.
"if you know how to use a weapon to preserve a life, you have my support."
Not to be overly pessimistic but at best we have a zero sum game when it comes to warfare. We usually tend not to preserve a life with a weapon...
As a transgender veteran, thank you
@@SarahWilk100 ewww
I love the hidden anger behind Jeff Daniels character when he's introducing the Republican candidates. Deserved his Oscar.
Miles Finnch Emmy. Oscar is for movies.
James Anderson Damn. You're right. I was thinking movie star when I typed his name. My bad.
Miles Finnch I've done it myself.
@@Marcus-gz3lo that was unnecessary
@@carl_hansson Unnecessary people tend to say unnecessary things
He's the anchor we need but not one we deserve
Brian b America has exactly what we deserve. In our newsrooms and in our Senate and, especially, in our White House.
He’s democrat Bill O’ Reilly
He gets schooled by a few republicans on the show. I also think he gets crap for the Al-Qaeda comparison later in that episode. The Tea Party was a circus though (IMO). The character is supposed to be a republican, but I wasn't convinced. President Glen Allen Walken would have walked circles around this guy.
Just to be clear, I did not agree with that comparison. I am not a huge fan of the tea party, but even I know that comparison is extreme. Hell Antifa and the rest of the anti-speech morons fall closer to that description than the Tea Party ever will. Comparing people and groups you disagree with to Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Hitler, Nazis and the KKK are the rage nowadays.
I wasn't implying that it was a "bipartisan concession to a conservative" audience, it was clear from the get go what Sorkin's intention was in making this show. His political leanings showed here as well as in West Wing (less in the latter than in Newsroom.). I was simply pointing out that there were consequences for his actions, and that there were several characters throughout the show that leaned right and weren't bat-shiz cray. Now, I don't agree with the portrayal regardless, but I thought it was obvious what side of things the show focused on. Had it been conservative, it would have done the same to the other side. Either way, I am sure it was done to create some sort of drama or conflict.
I liked their idea of being uncompromising in the news, and instead of claiming to be fair and balance, they called a spade a spade. Well, supposedly. Their idea and the line was better than their execution. There is a lot wrong with the show, and the propaganda is strong. I believe that was the point of his SNL-esque monologues.
Now, I think I may not be explaining myself well, but I wasn't disagreeing with you. I myself lean to the right in the political spectrum.
Chrisko1492 You are all over the place, and there is a lot to cover and unpack here. I will only point out the obvious, and let someone else continue the brainwashing with some of our propaganda.
"Where is the threat? No one threatens the US. No one could actually attack the U.S. All ,,attacks" in US history are singular terrorist attacks. No one is actually in danger."
You claim no one could actually attack the US, despite the fact that several countries could if they wanted to. Now, whether it would successful or not is a different matter, but they could. Russia and China are capable. You should double check the part where said no one threatens the US, because several countries have. I would also like to point out that several of our allies are capable and could attack too, but why would they? Right? One of our biggest allies was an enemy once, but that was along time ago. I digress...
Now I know that I am brainwashed, being an American and all, but the War of 1812 and Japan's on attack on Pearl Harbor automatically destroy the rest of your statement there. Those are examples of two countries that attacked the U.S. on its own territory, and get this, they are two of "All ,,attacks" in US history..." unfortunately, those were not terrorist attacks. Oh, and American lives were "actually" in danger. Crazy right?
My country is flawed and far from perfect, and I am well aware of our transgressions. Many mistakes were made, and many more will come. However, my country has done great things too. It has improved and continues to do so. I will do my part to contribute to making it better.
Anywho... You seem level-headed, reasonable, and totally not brainwashed. You probably live in an amazing country whose people never secured oil, rape or killed innocent civilians. That is totally a US thing. US is evil.
I can't believe that people would ACTUALLY boo a soldier because he was gay. :/
+AshtimusPrime ua-cam.com/video/1HGo-B39Fhw/v-deo.html
+Gerardo Ochoa-Vargas It was a 5 minute segment of american history that the entire republican party should forever remember with shame. It should be brought up this election and every election until this shit stops being an issue and any candidate who cant give a reasonable answer to the question should be exempt from public office.
Ethan mossman agree 100%
+ThatOne
Ignorant
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Much of this show covered real and actual events, including that.
It shows the difference between a leader and a politician.
+Bijil Baji This is a good point. Back in the day, we had leaders. Today we just have actors.
Maverick so true.
yes we no longer have leaders, we only have politicians
+Bijil Baji
We have no leaders anymore...no more men of moral fiber. Just like what was said, we have actors and their facebook/twitter followers who change their views and loyalties on social media every day and just follow the guy that has the best one liner that week. The only acting i do is pretend that i am fine. Pretend that i am not scared how the world has become. Pretend that i don't fear the next terrorist attack. Pretend that i dont fear destruction of our planet. Pretend......well the list goes on. I choose not to fear BUT its normal that that fear sometimes creeps up on us. My biggest fear is that there are no leaders to make the changes we really need. My biggest fear is that we as human beings are so blinded by fear that we wil follow the wrong person to lead us because we are afraid. But my biggest fear is losing all humanity.
+HALOX30 love it
The saddest and most infuriating fact of this is that this actually happened. This clip shows real people booing a real soldier and a good man. The show didn't stage the boos or santorum for a scene. It actually happened. It's truly disgusting. The man volunteered to risk his life and serve his country for years, and those right-wing idiots who praise themselves as "patriots" and "Christians" do nothing but boo him because they can't get over a part of his identity. Some people genuinely do not deserve a voice in politics. Do they have the right? of course. Do they deserve it? No
well put, and thank you.
i remember when this crap happened. the only thing more disgusting than the fake patriots booing was the crowd trying to become CINC who refused to lead by standing up for that soldier.
then in 2016, Bonespurs Trump threw dirt on POWs, and the GOP put him into office--funny how if a Democrat ever pulled that, what they'd still be saying today about it.
Some people genuinely don't deserve the freedom or even the life they enjoy. They are worse than parasites, even worse than cancer.
He WASN'T a "good man". He chose to break the rules and hide his sexual depravity then later try and force his depravity to be celebrated! George Washington HIMSELF personally court-martialed two officers during the Revolution for sodomy and openly spoke of how America could only survive by the Providence of God. Now you want to spit in God's face and mock His Law because some sodomite LIED?!? That man didn't win the war in Iraq and the LAST thing our military needs is to be used as a tool to push Godless secularism.
I have to take umbrage at your "right wing idiots" - I am what seems to now be called "right wing" and I would have stood for Captain Hill, do not make the mistake of assuming all of us are the same, lest I decide that because you are openly "left wing" by your comment, that you stand with the Gen Z snowflakes who would not stand to fight AT ALL, lest they get "misgendered" on the field of battle, which is about all it would take to make them surrender. Should I ask if you stand with the left wing paedophiles who seem to think 1st graders should be learning about sexuality and have transvestite men strip off in front of them, or allowing sexual deviants in wigs into female locker rooms to watch young girls getting undressed, - dare I ask if YOU are one of those deviants? How about the left wing liberals who are openly saying the USA should have unlimited illegal immigration "for the poor people" which at the last count was 5 BILLION - more than half the population of the planet lives at a level below what is considered poverty in the USA.
Are you going to give them your home, your bed and the food from your table?
Ask Texas how that's going right now.
If you're going to decry "the right wing" I suggest you get yourself a big gun and dig a big hole, because you're going to need both very soon because of the actions of your fellow "left wing compatriots" who are in actual reality, anything but patriotic. "Sanctuary cities" promoted by the left, that are being overrun by both illegals and fentanyl zombies; gay men walking around in dresses, and sometimes not dressed at all, in front of CHILDREN, and the thousands of criminals forcing companies to close stores because of malevolent shoplifting and the police forces of the USA are almost powerless because of both BLM (which you also probably supported) and the call to "defund the police" FROM THE LEFT.
How's your "left wing utopia" working out, now that the left seem to be running the country - do you feel "more free"? Do you feel more enriched both culturally and in your pocketbook? How does your community look today; how do your children feel about the new world you have created for them?
I suggest you SHUT THE FCK UP sir, because you've already done damage enough to a once great nation, and in the coming weeks and months even you too, all you "left wing idiots" will see you are not immune to the terrible cost of your UN-patriotic actions
Sorkin wrote west wing as an example of what government could look like if those involved were qualified statesmen. And he did the same thing for the media with the newsroom. Good lord are we nowhere near those worlds.
Worse even, every day we seem to drift more and more far away from such potential scenario...
The single most obvious reason we are nowhere near those worlds is because of the idiocy of actually believing in a "god," "jesus christ," or even a "lord."
@@penboyasgod6103 You think that's the problem, and not the blatant white supremacy on which the nation was founded and which is now unabashedly fighting for fascism to preserve its unearned privilege?
I bet you think you're savvy, too. BTW, not a lot of historical debate over whether a figure like Jesus (as a man, not a supernatural figure) actually existed or not. We have records; try reading them.
@@michaelccozens
The white supremacy you refer to [which is very real, btw] *is a direct result of that bible --- i.e., fucking "religion."* chrissssssstian bibles were not only the beginning of slavery, but the continuation of it even after our Civil War. And to be frank, it's still going on today --- yes, in America. And, also because of that asinine "religion," we still have today more types of *religious slavery* --- sexual identity is just one of them.
*"religions" are not, in fact, religions by definition. What they actually ARE, are *Socio-Political Ideologies [SPIs].*
@@michaelccozens
As you noted, *the figure* of "jesus christ" did not exist except in that bullshit bible. The ONLY thing I might concede is that "jesus" may have been a common name so that there *may have been* a "jesus" name to a few men. _But here's the thing: why is there _*_no other "jesus" human mentioned in any REAL history books?_* There is no historical FACT of a "jesus." And that has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt.
I don’t think Jeff Daniels was acting. I think he was genuinely disgusted by the incident. As he should be.
When he says "They let him stand alone" always gets to me.
"Soon they'll surely be in hell, though not soon enough".
Orlando, hell. what's the difference?
Careful what you wish for
omg did you just predict the future?
Oh my god.
I don't think people in a gay club where the ones booing the soldier.
I'm amazed at the G.O.P.'s ability to both love the military and hate soldiers at the same time . . .
+CCJJ160Channels Try being a soldier and go to Boulder Colorado in uniform. BULL FUCKING SHIT, you absolutely do not know what you are talking about. At least the republicans stand behind us troops, those worthless fucking democrats treat us like shit. I know, I am a soldier and I have had to put up with that shit...
+Armyguyin longmont - Sending soldiers into conflicts and then not giving them the support they need or properly taking care of them when they come back is b.s. Not supporting any solider b/c of their sexuality is b.s.
For the record, you are, respectfully, wrong, sir. My brother was in the Army and served in the first Gulf War, I appreciate his service, as well as yours and every other man and woman who puts on the uniform.
+Armyguyin longmont "those worthless fucking democrats treat us like shit."
Yeah, you know those worthless fucking Democrats actually had the nerve to oppose the war. The fucking gall of people, to want to use you as some kind of sick "defense force" to guard the country against attack by foreign forces.
Thank the gods for right-minded Republicans who see war as a solution to every problem, wars on drugs, war on graffiti, war on any nation they deem needs another regime change. If it weren't for those Republicans, you wouldn't have a war to die in.
BTW do they have an entire section of the Army reserved for simply minded, irrational bigots, or are you the first of a new generation of anti-intellectual storm troopers ready to defend political dogma no matter what the cost to honesty and morality is?
Hating the military and disagreeing with a war that military is involved in are two very different things.
+CCJJ160Channels
You shouldn't be, hypocrisy is what the GOP does best.
I remember in 2006 when my Squad Sergeant told me he was gay. He came directly from phase 2 at the Q-Course for SFAS, and returned back to our Airborne unit so he could deploy. Looking back now I am so glad I served under him and he was the best soldier in my Company.....
I still remember thinking at the time how he was different and was a lil weird at first about it. It had a certain taboo about it and I remember feeling uncomfortable at first when we’d shower-shit-sleep in right quarters etc. And I shouldn’t have.
I’m glad that I was able to grow as a person and mature and that our society now openly accepts people like him. I know in an Airborne unit and him being 1/2 way through Special Forces Selection process he would’ve been immediately outed and prosecuted if they found out he was gay. I’m glad we have evolved as Humans.
Well God bless you man. That’s one thing people need to realize. It’s okay to be uncomfortable, and to learn and grow. Things we don’t understand often create a sense of discomfort. But from there we grow.
And just how "evolved" have we, as humans, actually become if so many of us still believe in the total bullshit of "god" and "jesus christ"?
We have until you realize how many WOMEN are sexually assaulted or harrassed in our military. Remember these are the same types of soldiers wanting to serve and NOT be judged or objectified.
@@penboyasgod6103 Let us religious people chill I hate it when non religious people bash religion.
@@robyn8039
I don't give a shit. Don't blame us [atheists] because you're so fucking stupid to actually believe in all that bullshit ( *and **_it is proven_** to be bullshit* ).
Such a well-written and intelligent show. Shame it had to end so soon. Credit you you,Aaron Sorkin
I can only imagine if this show had covered the Trump years, up to and through the pandemic and insurrection.
@@FreemanicParacusia I can imagine it being cancelled as a fictional show started doing better news than real news networks.
@@schrenk-d That wouldn't be reason to cancel it. In fact, Fox News did exactly that and remains super popular despite being proven to be fake as hell.
@@schrenk-dExactly. We need a news channel who does what Aaron Sorkin, the other writers, and the cast & crew did on this amazing show. Because unfortunately this rarely happens on news channels or news programs, and therefore the lying, corruption, exploitation & greed is allowed to continue.
As you say, well written and intelligent. It’s not what the US media market wants
Yes this show is fiction, but many of the "fake" reports they do are on real events and even if they are not real reporters I am sure what they say make people think. It is still out there and I am sure it touch peoples hearts. It sure did for me.
This is not really a fictional show. In my opinion, it is a commentary.
This reprimand of the GOP candidates was what I needed.
It would be fun to watch him giving a reprimand to Trump and Clinton during the elections. Maybe if USA had reporters like this (and had them heard), there would have been different candidates to begin with? Maybe better ones?
If I was a Republican and one of the candidates of that time, I would have waited for the others to speak their piece (and say nothing about the unacceptable reaction) and then I would have begun by reprimanding the audience for insulting a man braver than you, braver than me:
"I'm sure there are men and women in this audience who are appalled like me, for this hypocritical behaviour of members of this convention and my fellow candidates is appalling! On one side you are all about how we should respect our soldiers for their commitment and bravery - but here we are, seeing the same people who said that, preaching water and drinking wine. None of you saw fit to stand by this brave man, who didn't let bigotry stand in his way to serve this nation in a way that you or I would never do! What message does this lack of loyalty to a servicemember send to the public and those who are part of the armed services? The question of Captain Hill together with the despictable reaction of members of the audience was a test - a pop quiz if you want. And ALL OF YOU FAILED! None of you passed the test even remotely by saying something like 'Oh, this reaction of the audience was uncalled for." No one said anything. And I'm the only one! Seriously?! You want to be future commander-in-chief! You want to be this country's leader! But a true leader doesn't simply demand loyalty from others - he gives it back in return! A commander-in-chief has the back of his troops, and they have his! I may lose your votes for standing up for a fellow citizen - for a soldier braver then anyone of us! But that is a sacrifice that I'll gladly make! Better to do something right instead of taking the easy way. And if me standing up for a brave soldier like Captain Hill, who deserves to be honoured and is a greater and more inspiring leader then all of us loses me your votes, then I see no place for me in this party any longer.
In regards to Captain Hill's question: Captain Hill is a fine example why we are called the land of the free and home of the brave! Progress in civil rights and liberties that has been made by past administrations and legislatures shall not be undone, just because our party did not endorse it. The progress that's been made was direly needed. I pledge here and now, that I will support the rights of EVERY American, regardless of ethnicity, religion, gender, sexuality and so on."
That's perhaps what everyone of us waited for: A couragous candidate standing up and roasting the others over this.
I love this show because they base all the news on stuff that happened within a year or so of the episode airing, which makes it really cool to see the show and remember the actual events they are commentating on
Jeff Daniels is!
CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT!
...but in all seriousness, this shit ain't going away.
I don’t care if a soldier is straight, as long as they can shoot straight.
-Barry Goldwater
Cop: [They stick together like flypaper ... everybody thought they were queer.]
Harry: "If the rest of you can shoot like them, I wouldn't care if the whole damn department was queer."
_Magnum Force_ 1975?
And three years later, we've elected as President a man who never retracted his statement of "I like people who weren't captured" when referring to Senator McCain who was captured and held as a P.O.W. for five years.
He was also hated by the other pow's at the camp with him. As their flesh was rotting from being held in a bamboo cage in chest deep water, McCain was held as a guest in his own room with a bed. He was the son of Admiral John S. McCain Jr. who at his height was leader of US Pacific Command during the Vietnam War. He was a very important resource for the North, a bargaining chip.
This is all be detailed by the men next to him at the time, they could be lying, but so could McCain. I for one don't trust him from all his corruption and disrespect he has shown this country from his time in congress. That just one Marine Sgt with 3 combat tours opinion though.
Yes, but he's no fucking hero. He spent the remaining of his life keeping and trying to keep out the gays from our military with no good reason other than his brainwashed religion.
Penboy as 'god' Found the "witless bully." Or is it "punk?" Me, I prefer "human garbage."
@@statesmenol this all takes nothing away from trump being a trash person for the comment.
Anyone who boos a soldier should be drafted and sent to the front line.
BloodTar I am against any ignorant intolerant person, soldier or not.
BloodTar I served 7 yrs in the Royal Air Force. I know about the military. You are the sort of person I would be ashamed to have in my Flight..
BloodTar I doubt you'd even get past the selection process for the RAF. If you had managed it, I would have had you out in no time.
By the way, I'm not gay, just civilised.
Draugur Who are you talking to? You didn't address your remark.
BloodTar I've just been listening to the news. You must be pleased with the shooting of Gays in Orlando.
It;s people like you that give people like the killer encouragement.
Everyone who ever even thought of booing a gay soldier should watch this clip at least 10 times. The line at 2:46 was just perfect.
I already miss Newsroom. Aaron Sorkin is an unabashed liberal who manages to keep his pulse on an optimistic vision of what the USA can be.
*Not quite or not that much of a true liberal.* Very similar to the _The West Wing,_ he spent waaaaaayyyy toooo much time writing about bedroom politics and religiosity in _The Newsroom._
I wish we had real mainstream news people like that instead of treating traitors, grifters, & coup participants as just having a different opinion. This series was great!
The only problem with that is those so-called "real" news people tend to treat anyone with a different opinion than them as traitors, grifters, and coup participants when they're often not.
@@sastryvnk4402 If you were in the capitol building on 1/6, then you were a coup participant (AKA A Traitor).
If you voted for someone who stole dozens of classified top secret documents, then you're also a traitor.
If you think being friends with an authoritarian dictator like Putin is a good thing, then you too are a grifter/traitor.
Oh, and the clip of the RNC audience booing an actively serving military member in Iraq *was REAL.* It's from the Sept 2011 GoP primary debates, and it was despicable how spineless the candidates reaction was. Hair Führer makes them _almost_ look like patriots.
The last "good republican" was John McCain, who had the balls to call out & correct an old Karen at one of his town hall meetings for calling Obama a Muslim.
I served under an administration that discharged service members for being openly gay, or lesbian. They masked their reasoning for doing so under an underlying "personality disorder" and being "unfit for duty."
We also had a Sailor commit suicide because of those ideals, and how isolated they felt. The U.S. Navy made an official statement that the Sailor "fell overboard," as a means to contain the truth.
And people wonder why we have fuckin PTSD.
My grandpa was a line Sergeant in the UK in WW2 with a purple heart and he had a best friend who was gay, only he knew. It must be so hard. Ended up being marrying his man. A great love story.
"If any of us found out we were being deployed to Iraq we would go Corporal Klinger faster than you could pull on a yellow taffeta picnic dress"
Gold!
hanscombe72 Unfortunately the Army has found a way to fight it. They have a test to measure blood flow to determine your sexuality. They don't use it anymore since 'don't ask don't tell' was repealed.
I laughed so hard
@@soulcornflake1 jesus almighty. I forget people actually believe shit like this
@@dominikgose2609 And yet it took you FOUR YEARS to comment on it?
@@soulcornflake1 yet you somehow believe that you can detect someone's sexuality based on their blood flow.
You can just see the anger and disgust on Wills face as the members of his party trying to be president did nothing to stand up for this solider. What a powerful scene.
Many years later, it still hits hard. Sure it's a fictional show, but every clip used here was real.
I had an immense honour in having Stephen reply to a comment I made on another channel after he came home safely, and married.
R hypocrisy still is rampant.
They let him stand alone,soldiers never do that,leaders never do that bullies and witless punks do.. I APROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slenderriffic fuck off. There were like 2 assholes in the debate crowd get over it
@@Marcus-gz3lo Not one of those Republican Candidates stood up to those assholes, and that's worse than leaving your buddy behind. Attitude reflects leadership and not a single leader was standing up there, except the gay soldier.
@@Marcus-gz3lo the problem aren't the two shit-for-brains in the crowd but that not one of these “leaders“ had the simple strengh of character to stand up to them.
@@Marcus-gz3lo nah you fuck off.
@@Marcus-gz3lo Oh fuck off with your delusion. The point isn't the crowd booed him, the point is that none of these supposed "leaders" did anything to condemn it. They just stood there smiling while people booed a gay soldier for being gay. Cowards do that.
Okay. Was always a fan of West Wing. After hearing the rant on this show by Daniels about why America is not the greatest country in the world, and now this clip. I think I'm going to have to find this show and watch it from the start. Great stuff!
+guibox3 it's a great show, ended all too soon.
Yes. But, to criticize this show, they spent waaaayyyyy too much time on *personal romances* when they should have been replaying more of our history and how a real newsroom handles it.
UA-cam 'The American Taliban'.
Nuff said.
It's totally worth the watch, although the 3rd and final season is not up to par with the first two. And "The American Taliban" was a great moment, right up there with the opening "America isn't the greatest country anymore" dialog, and Olivia Munn's "don't call me girl sir."
I served in the army for almost 23 years with 4 combat tours....it is a ridiculous notion to think that a man or woman in uniform can not execute their wartime mission solely based on their sexuality....if the Soldiers i work with or that worked for me were gay, so what....if they can kill the enemy with their individual weapon, perform 1st aid, call for fire, air support or a MEDEVAC ....can turn a wrench, pull guard, properly wear the uniform and execute the proper customs and courtesies of the Army, then their sexual orientation is irrelevant
As a U.S. Army Recon Scout I agree with everything said in this video. People need to see that Gay is just a status. It does not make a man a different person, it's just a status like being married, single; black, white, Asian! lets stop seeing race or sexuality.
I like you,good sir.
Anthony Abramowicz I coulcn't agree more.Instead of seeing someone's sexuality, we should see why this person fights in a faraway country where consequently thousands of civilians die, and call it "fighting for freedom and democracy".
stdfreesteve Nah, but it would certainly make the world a better place.
Shar Thulovaas not really. not everyone has to agree with homosexuality. i personally dont either. im not gonna put people down, but its youtube what do u expect?
stdfreesteve This is what society has done, they pushed it and pushed it, they finally succeeded, homosexuality is now looked upon as the norm in most European Countries, and now if you speak out against it you are a word that makes no sense, an homophobe... WHICH is a made up word by scientists whom support the homosexual agenda, along with those whom agree with it, and yet homosexuals themselves.
Homophobia, no one actually fears it like an actual phobia, so why is it a phobia, well, it's a word designed to guilt you into accepting the lifestyle.
I do NOT hate homosexuals to death, but I hate the act of homosexuality, and wish it didn't exist, I can't just HATE homosexuals like that, because it isn't there fault, they were molested, turned out in some way or some other tragedy, no one is born this way I refuse to believe it.
So, now I guess I am going to go "kill" myself because I disagree with this homosexual agenda that was successfully pushed, which is going to open the door to other negative things, just you wait, pedophilia is already being pushed, and that also is an act Europeans back in the Greek, Roman, and Persian days existed, where they'd prefer young teen boys as sex partners, and to use the woman just for breeding purposes.
I don't care how you identify; if you choose to put your self on the line and serve your fellow countrymen and women - be it in the military, Law Enforcement, or as a First Responder, you will ALWAYS have my support, gratitude, and prayers for your continued safety.
The problem is both parties love troops when they are at war or fighting but abandon them when they come home. It is disgusting!
When people get angry about gays in the military it makes no sense to me what so ever.
They're defending the country they love just the same as a straight person would. Why does a sexual preference really make a difference??
nbkcq28 i guess you are liberal. But what do you think about islam
Why must you assume they are defending the country they love?
You can join the military and not give a shit about defending your country and you certainly dont have to love your country to join.
"Why does a sexual preference really make a difference?"
in this context it literally doesn't.
nbkcq28 what does GOD SAYS ABOUT ABOMINATION?
Clarence Henley I think your real question should be what did a bunch of bigotted old men say about abomination 3500 years ago?
As a former Infantryman, my only regret is that I will never be able to Salute Captain Hill. God bless you Sir. I would follow men like you into hell if you asked.
I'm hardly a liberal or progressive (I'm an Independent with a libertarian streak). But, this is a great speech.
Religious hypocrisy really grinds my gears. And yes, I believe in God.
So you're just a conservative then
Where the fuck was this guy during our election?
His name was Milo.
ravercorum20
You mean that dumb breitbart guy? or is this characters name actually Milo?
kuribo1 That;s the one, if you think he didn't have an impact on the election results I'd ask you to consider that our younger voting demographic has been the highest it's ever been.
Would rather not associate myself with the alt right or left movement thank you very much.
kuribo1 He himself has said on numerous occasions that he is not alt right, in his own words he says he simply gives them a fair media coverage without the bias.
I wish he was real just so he can go head to head with Tomi Lahren
idk, I think he could even beat Ben Shapiro or whatever fuck his name is lol
I wish Tomi Lahren would give me real head.
She couldn't even handle Trevor Noah, who frankly, is low in the totem pole when it comes to skills in debate. However, I don't think he could hang with Ben, as Viet N suggested.
+Erocktyle she couldn't even handle Trevor Noah
No, because a lot of the points she made are incorrect. Same points that Ann Coulter has made and have been proved wrong for years. Besides, it's not about winning. Human interaction is a discourse and an exchange of ideas. Here, for example, Will isn't trying to destroy the woman but rather counters her claims with facts. The same thing that has been done in any single debate, be it left or right. Lahren's claims were even disprove by multiple media sources, analysts and experts (based on said interview/debate). Now, nobody is saying Lahren and her followers aren't allowed to keep on carrying with their own beliefs. However, the problem with Lahren et al, is that they want to win an argument instead of just facing a fact and move on. Rather, most people like Lahren want to win at all costs, which in turn makes them create fake statistics/quotes/events. An interview is to know what the other person has to say based on the questions they're asked and one is allowed to counter false claims with real information. It's a mentality of us vs. them. Sadly, that's a very immature and childish way of seeing things, especially problems that affect different populations in any country.
"The audience members who were booing were in Orlando. Soon, they'll surely be in hell..." 😂
“... though not soon enough.” 🙂
I do not care if a soldier is gay, straight or sleeping with every carnivorous member of the reptile family. These brave men and women are our soldiers! I can't thank them enough for protecting me.
They deserve our respect.
+TheCoolProfessor lol
protecting you from what?
Nancy Melena All enemies foreign and domestic.
Protecting you from what? From what you Americans think it's evil...
You're so naive...
What if they like to watch child porn? Still don't care?
Sooooo...how good is this show? It's not on Netflix unfortunately.
Christopher Flores Overall, it's not too good. It has brilliant moments, I have another video in my collection, if you want to try. But as for the show, in a scale of 1 to 10... a 7.
thanks for the reply
Christopher Flores in all its right up there with actual other "smart" shows that encourages thought versus mindlessly staring at the television. one of the best shows I've seen in quite a long while. One of the most impressive aspects is they use controversial issues right out of the news in every episode.
Sandra Ashton which other shows would you suggest are 'right up its alley'? I don't know much about TV shows other than a sitcom every now and then, but the videos from this show consistently blow my mind.
Alitoh Definitely West Wing. Same people who made News Room. Both great great shows.
I served for 20 yrs, on 3 continents, and during 1 war - the entire time it was illegal to be gay in the military. There were witch-hunts about yearly where Special Agents would try to ferret us out. When they succeeded, the person was humiliated, discharged dishonorably and had zero veterans benefits. I feared those special agents more than any enemy forces. I know this clip is from a fictional tv show, but Christ it struck a nerve. I haven’t cried this hard since my mother died.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that.
I'm sorry you had to endure that. "Thank you for your service" seems so shallow and trite. But I do.
I always judge gays based on what Jesus said, "404 - scripture not found."
Corey Carnes HAH brilliant.
Yes indeed, there is not a single mention of negativity toward gays from Jesus Christ in any version of the Bible in existence.
The one and only place where it mentions anything anti-gay also happens to mention that you should be condemned to hell if you cut your hair, shave your face, wear mixtures of fabrics, eat shellfish, every single one of these the anti-gay crusaders are guilty of (maybe one or two of them never ate fish, but that's about it).
some guy in a million wasting time on youtube wait a minute.... did you basically just say "men are superior so fuck you"?
I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant to type "man and man". But if that were the case, and if God was so offended by it, he himself would stop it. The fact that it still exists shows that he either doesn't care, or is okay with it.
Furthermore, for anyone to engage in discrimination and violence using God's name is an even worse sin. If God is offended by the actions of a gay man, it is GOD'S responsibility to judge him, NOT YOURS. You are not "God's instrument", get over yourself before you earn yourself a one-way ticket to hell as well.
If being gay is a sin, then they will answer for it in the end. But don't be surprised when you find the almighty judge welcoming in a man who only wanted to spread love, and casting out those like you who only wanted to hate. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but again God is the judge, NOT YOU.
some guy in a million wasting time on youtube Teachings which you only assume are so, based on a book, re-written multiple times in multiple languages, all based on stories that were spread by word of mouth for centuries before written down and complied into literary format.
Besides, any God worth the slightest worship would love all living beings he created equally. Any offense to such a God would be taking the lives of the beautiful creatures he has created. And if he has a problem with anything, it is he alone who should deal with it.
The Bible is just far too easy to corrupt by the hands of men, as it was the hands of men who wrote it in the first place. Whether inspired by God, given direct passages to chronicle, or just pulled out of one's proverbial backside, it is almost guaranteed that the words have been changed numerous times over time. And those changes always to benefit one class over another.
I believe the ultimate truths of what Jesus said are relevant to any time and period. It's basically, "Love your neighbor as you would love yourself."
What that means, in no uncertain terms is that hatred is a primal and unnecessary thing. To "hate" the "gays" or to condemn anyone is not the place of a person but a God. God tells you how HE will deal with that, not what YOU should do to deal with that.
He tells you that you should love everyone and find a place in your heart for them. Any other teaching is not what Jesus said, but your crude and tortured interpretation of a book, as K1productions so eloquently put it, was rewritten hundreds of time and translated dozens. So, to say, "I know" about anything that the Bible says, is not only naive but untrue.
So please, take your hate and your malice for a thing that you're probably fighting inside of yourself and leave judgement to the deity you believe so devoutly in. That is, if you're a Christian and listen to what Jesus said. If not, keep being a lukewarm believer who will be spat from the mouth of God. It's completely up to you.
some guy in a million wasting time on youtube Yes, so why are you going by the bastardized, twisted, backward, re-translated modern English version of the Bible? There is no "original version" anymore, it died over 1500 years ago, at least.
So yes, all he asks is to follow what he has stated. Love thy neighbor, treat others as you would have yourself treated, spread love not hate. And when others show hate toward you, striking you in the face, show them the other cheek and ask to be struck there as well. The fact that you even mention despised, that fact alone says you are not following Jesus' teaching, as everything he ever stood for was the antithesis of despising anything or anybody.
The fact that humans even engage in sexual behavior is part of God's design to begin with, as he has given us these natural instincts for a reason. Besides, the more we are making love, means the less time we are making war.
"most gods are not merciful, that's why they are gods", that is the most horrible, backward and nonsensical approach I have ever heard. If you want to live in such a horrible existence, you go right ahead, but don't drag the rest of us down with you. The world is beautiful, it is people like you who make it ugly. I pity you sir, and I wish that you can find peace in whatever has gone so horribly wrong in your life.
These days I doubt it would be booing. It would be far worse.
Watching this entire series tonight.
still one of my favorites to watch - so much truth and great acting in there
absolutely love this scene! No one should be degraded for their sexual orientation as a person if you want to fight in a war you should not be criticized for being gay and or lesbian or any part of the LGBTQ plus Community, you are a citizen and are risking your life for this country therefore you should not be victimized by your own rights
I googled Rick Santorum to find out what he did in the military; I was assuming he had also risked his life to serve his country. NOPE. But he did enter politics, and had the gall to compare that to the potential dangers of being in the military. I'm totally disgusted! Who does he think he is?
Well he DOES have his very own Urban Dictionary entry...so there is that. Check it out.
***** religious has nothing to do with it.... he was just flat out stupid.
Brian Galloway Rick Santorum also had some BS to say about the Dutch people, anything he says is to be taken as a lie.
Because apparently, despite having some of the best health care in the world, a proven fact, he had the audacity to suggest we Dutch people do not go to the hospital to, and I'm not making this shit up "we're afraid our injuries are to severe and we'll be euthanized".
To be clear, even the very very sick who have no quality to life, have years of struggles a head of them to be allowed to be euthanized here.
I have to agree with you on that
He appears to be a complete twat !
This is a GREAT show. Not only is it highlighting MANY things wrong with America right now, it highlights many things wrong with news media and that, if they WANTED to, it could be made right.
We need more of that.
nuff said?
This is a message for Captain Hill---THANK YOU,SIR!!! And this is a message for those who booed AND the cowards on the stage---Turn left or right, there's a coast in the distance, go there & start swimming---the sharks are hungry.
Little known fact, one of the people that booed would soon become the governor of Florida.
I was 19, E-3 Nuke A School, 1993 NTC Orlando FL, 9 months into my enlistment, out of fear I went AWOL and drove to my home state to do the only thing I could do to escape the torture of being gay and being gay in the military. I failed in my mission to end everything. I was punished and kicked out. I've watched this many times and each time I cry.
I was there in 1981. Things must have changed on one front - if you made it through your other schools (for me, Electronics Tech A school) you were an E-4. I made E-5 while in school. But the important thing had not changed. We lived in barracks with four men to a room, and all of us in our room knew (eventually) that Brian was gay. Several others had figured it out too, but he was our buddy - period. Then one night, a machinist's mate from Alabama finally caught on, because we would go party at the clubs in town, but Brian usually left after one or two drinks. We all knew he was going to a gay bar or some other thing like that, and we did not care, but this guy was going to "report that pervert!" We were forced to let him know that if he did he'd get his ass kicked so high that he'd be shitting out of his neck.
Brian was one of the lucky ones, at least for a while. But I am sure he dreaded every transfer and new posting knowing that he might not have friends who would have his back. I lost touch with him after reactor prototype training, but I hope he never had to go through what you did.
This was the first scene I've ever watched from this show and I have to say, I loved it. Regardless if you agree or disagree they know exactly how to grab your attention by bringing up real events and issues at hand. Fully caught up thanks to HBO GO and patiently waiting for the third season.
People that Boo a Combat Soldier because he or she is different have NO HEART. People who boo a Soldier also need to Grow A Set and Learn Some Respect.
I served for 2 years (not in the US army), and based on what I have seen, all those that served and sweared to protect their people and country deserve the most basic respect. You want to teach them some respect, send them to bootcamp
+Joseph Nasr were you a marine?
+Eric Campbell no I'm not American
+Eric Campbell but we trained many times with US Marines and troops from different countries such as Germany, France...
+Joseph Nasr where are you from May I ask?
How ashamed would you be to be an American right now to see this 😪
Will McAvoy seems like a more serious John Oliver here.
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+MrBWhite88 Save for, y'know. John being a liberal, and Will being Republican, or at least supposed to be that way. He does come off sounding more Liberal. The large scale of this show had Will coming off as more of a Liberal than his intended Republican character. Best point in the show was the intro. The whole "America isn't the greatest country" bit. Because it did paint him as a Republican that at least some could respect. Recognizing the failures of both parties. Praising their successes. But in the rest of the show he goes on to being far more critical on the Republican party, despite preaching quite to the air of no political bias in the beginning.
Had McAvoy stayed true to that version of the character, I would watch someone like that, but seeing as he became someone like Oliver, someone who gets paid to make you hate a specific candidate, or a specific party while feigning the appearance of not being biased... Well, I mean that's kind of the reason I don't watch Oliver.
+AnonymousUser123 hear hear
+Cody Bradley i wasnt aware supporting the troops was a liberal concept.
+andrew Was McAvoy supporting the troops? He was supporting a gay soldier. Nothing more, nothing less. And supporting the supposedly disenfranchised such as people of color, LGBT, etc. is what liberals do best, its what they're known for. As a gay, and formal liberal, who was carted around by other liberal "friends" just to show how tolerant they are, I should know. Every day, whether it warranted it or not, was another day for them to fight for rights in my name, that I wasn't even concerned about.
But no, McAvoy wasn't supporting the troops. He, as a Republican, was railing into other Republicans for not adhering to Liberal ideas of what they should do in that situation. The issue with McAvoy, is the same that Sorkin has with any of his shows, Republican characters will fall into two categories. Exaggerated stereotypes, or RINOs.(Republican In Name Only ) The latter of which come off like McAvoy here. Hyper-critical of their own party, while sparse to comment on any shortcomings of the Democrat party. Of which there are many.
'Soon they'll be in Hell, but not soon enough.'
I laughed hard at that, simply from the way it was phrased alone.
2:16 "The audience members who were booing were in Orlando"
No surprise there (Still disappointed though)
Yes, all of the candidates spoke about how we should thank our young sons and daughters, husbands or wives serving for this proud nation. But when it comes to speaking up for a gay soldier, you can count them out. All bunch of cheap talk phonies.
Bestofthewest Think you misread the comment you were responding to, bub. whyicare was saying that the people booing were worthless pieces of shit. And they absolutely were. Love ya for the support, brother. Keep bein' awesome, but definitely take a minute to read things before you respond to them.
Brennan Hearn People delete their comments.
Im a Republican and believe that even though it is against my own religious beliefs that it is the governments job to represent the people. If people want gay marriage then give it to them. If someone volunteered to fight and die for me I would stand with them. Gays and lesbians should be allowed in our military. Since sex is not allowed in the military it shouldn't matter if you are straight or gay just don't bring it up.
I have honestly never read anything more touching on the internet, and I mean that sincerely. I'm not gay but I definitely support equality. People who have beliefs often think that just because they don't like something then it shouldn't happen. I don't like smoking weed, but the fact that more and more people in the UK want it legalised means that I shouldn't be getting in the way of positive progress. You don't have to join in with things you don't believe in if you are not forced into them. Thank you for being a stand up person :D
Gibblo13 I appreciate to hear that. I am a college student right now with very strong dreams to become a United States Senator and hopefully one day I would like to become President to show how each side can get what they want with a good compromise.
Liam Coyne you're better off finding a new paradigm to devote your energies to. Power corrupts. If you attempt to work within our current system you will be co-opted by it. Think outside the box. Don't allow yourself to be marginalized and absorbed by something as ineffectual and useless as our current government.
you are a great human being.
Good on you, Sir.
I don’t know why this old video would pop up but it does remind me how much I miss this show. How would it look today?
I wonder how many folks got the Cpl Klinger reference??!!
Darrell Frazier I got it
Really depends on their age. I remember watching the show all of the time as a kid because my dad always watched it.
I think you might have to be over 60 to get it
@@tonyfrenolaski7731 ... It aired from 72 through 83, so while you're close on the 60 reference, it's been running in syndication ever since. So you really don't have to be 60, fool
what I would give to see Will McAvoy having a drink with Tyrion Lannister!
Are you kidding me? I got a list of ppl who I'd LOVE to see have a drink with Tyrion. Lol!!! Awesome idea!
+Kevin Murphy What I'd love to see is 'murricans wake up from too much TVseries and honor their real life McAvoys to an crucial extend! Chomsky, Sanders and Hedges.
Oh my gosh that would be sick.
As in super cool lol
Kevin Murphy whoa you just blew my mind with that one! Lol
This is what actual left wing media would look like if it had someone as loud and dedicated as Tucker Carlson on their side, with the backbone of Walter Cronkite to stick to principles, and if there was actual left wing media in the US.
This is the center now. Right wing and left wing media are much more extreme.
Tucker Carlson is a lying sociopath that lies for money. What? You think he lied for Fox News because he had no choice? He's a fucking sellout. Stop bending your knees to losers that are mercernary for money. You fucking loser. Think for yourself, instead being a loser.
Could someone please just clear this up for me, what exactly is meant when Americans say that the troops are fighting for their freedom? How is what the troops are currently doing and have been doing overseas since 9/11 have anything to do with the freedoms granted to American citizens? Like AT ALL? How is ISIS really going to affect your freedom to vote, wave a flag, criticise the government?
I don’t care who you love! Anyone that is willing to serve their country, to put their lives one the line! For people they don’t and will never know? I thank them and am thankful xxx
I never knew that really happened. Very disgusting and upsetting.
That was damn powerful. Excellent writing. And Jeff Daniels couldn't be better in this role.
I'm tired of the adage "Fighting for our freedom" wherever we deploy our military. Like Iraq, we were there for stability in the region, oil, greed, etc., whatever one of the innumerable purposes people have postulated, but regardless of which one you choose, it never had anything to do with American freedom.
Herman Cain won the very first Herman Cain Award. He was truly a visionary. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Powerful and moving. Sorkin is a brilliant writer.
BRAD PITT Canceled for bashing the Tea Party? It was? Sure it was. Which totally explains why the show was renewed for a new season and will be coming out on HBO this month and all through December.
propaganda
Propaganda... huh. so me saying that it premiered and is showing on HBO would be lies then? Except that it *is* showing on HBO, and it did premiere, and it'll be showing throughout November and most of December.
You're welcome.
Seven Winged Angel ur so ridiculous I actually laughed out loud wen I read ur reply. address the issue. stop using red herrings to deflect attention. look I agree with ur first reply, but the second one was just bad.
Not really. He tried to dismiss the statement that the series had been renewed as propaganda. I demonstrated that it was given a new season that is playing now, proving that it's renewal was actually legitimate. That is not a red herring. Maybe you should look it up.
And now in Florida, this Captain would not even be allowed by law to announce his existence, thanks to “DeSantis and *”Don’t Say Gay.”* Orlando hasn’t improved any - even for its most important resident: Disney - who dared to speak up in support of LGBTQ citizens!
You feel amazing watching Will McAvoy rants on live TV and then when the video is over you realise its all fiction. :'(
+Rajith Maligaspe ...which leaves the responsibility to you to make this real... there is much more on the stake (not only) in 'murrica these days.
+Rajith Maligaspe Nope. It's truth. The buybull is fiction. That's the difference.
*****
buybull?
All the news he reports on is real though. I just wish he was a real newsman.
Dakota McKnight
Yeah! He wouldn't be silent about Sanders!
What an engaging, captivating show this was - Aaron Sorkin and Jeff Daniels created a real gem, I wish Mr. Sorkin would have given us one more season.
Don't know why UA-cam decided I should see a 7 year old clip. I have to comment anyway. I was in the Army as a medic. When a unit went out on patrol they would request a medic to go with them. Sometimes that unit would request a particular medic. There was one unit would always without fail request one medic. Now this guy in full field gear would make Cameron Diaz in a bikini look butch. Those in that unit could give a rats ass he was gay. All they cared about was that he was a top notch medic and would sacrifice himself to make sure they got back. In my experience only those in politics and administration were the ones demonizing LBGQT+ in the military not the ones with their boots on the ground.
This really happened. I remember megyn Kelly trying to defend the people booing the next day. I've forgotten what she said, I doubt it was anything factual, smart or substantial, because, Megyn Kelly.
If a man or woman wants to fight for my family, I don’t care what their sexual preference is, thank you whoever you are.
What did he meant when he said corporal klinger? Who is corporal klinger?
I like this episode, standing up for our service man and women in uniform😅😅😅
Corporal Klinger was a character on the show M.A.S.H. who constantly wore dresses and pretended to be gay in order to get kicked out of the military because he didn't want to be there. (MASH was set in the Korean War)
Goosebumps. Man, this is such spectacular writing. Wish there was an actual news channel like this one. Bravo as usual Mr. Sorkin
I'm not even an American but I was disgusted by every person in that audience who booed a serving combat offer on the front line in Iraq. But I was mostly disgusted by every Presidential candidate on the stage. Not a single one defended him. But most of them were re-elected to high powerful positions in the government...
I miss The Newsroom. Too bad they only were on for 3 seasons. Jeff Daniels Nailed this performance. Loved the rest of the cast as well. Great supporting characters.
My god, I love how pissed he gets when he talks about them booing that soldier. It's that kind of wrath the people booing deserve, and it's that kind of wrath that should be given to them every time they have a thought even remotely considering trashing on the LGBT community.
My Husband served 26 Years On a submarine IN the US Navy. He knew a Man that was what he called "The Best damn chief I ever met." No one Knew about his sexual orientation Because He worked very Hard to Keep it quiet. When He was found out By chance He was fired and Put Out Of the Navy Because He didn't ask and didn't tell But they Knew.
My Husband went from a Lowly deck div all the way to COB and Master chief Before He retired. He still said That That chief was the Best damn chief he ever served with. and My Husband was a Great damn chief and Master chief.
This show was Exactly what we all Needed during Bush all the way through Trump But it would Never Last Because It seems Like No one wants the truth
"a grateful nation is waiting to say thank you"
Well, some of us are.
Would love to see this show come back in 2021... So much fun stuff to respond to now
Perfect manner in which to expose the current rampant hypocrisy!
We need a another version of this show for this decade.
Who's freedom are US soldiers fighting for?
conskate we were fighting for the politicians... but at least there were decent benefits. we have basically just been policing and flexing for the last like 40 years.
conskate Ikr it's fucking stupid
The freedom of corporations to fuck the population in the bum
that seems like a question best answered by the US soldiers fighting
Freedom of US citizens to use oil and other resources, and continue to be as consumerist as possible.
Herman Cain should apologize for not getting a Covid shot. Oh, wait…
Too bad the truth has to be on a television show about news instead of actually being on the news.
Such an intelligent show -- some say anti Republican .. so what... Once I heard the speech - at the beginning of the pilot episode... I was hooked!
I don't think the show was anti republican, it was anti whatever the republican party has become. They haven't been the party of Lincoln for forever. They really should just be called the Money Grubbing, Gun Totting, Billionaire Ass Kissing, Religious Extremist, Gordon Gekko Worshiping, Racist Party.
+paradox963 The parties flipped roles somewhere in the 60s
this show had a better name for them calling them the American Taliban
The show is a well written liberal echo chamber. 'If we had known everything we do now, what could we have said to really zing them!' I appreciated them being honest with their bias towards collectivist principles though.
If you watch the full show, it was honestly more Pro Republican than anything since Will McAvoy IS a traditional (not radical) Republican. That being said, it was anti- being a piece of shit, no matter the affiliated party. That party was Republican at times like in this scene, Democrat at times, and all the others, too. A show that takes punches at everyone if you aren't wearing blinders.
I am a gay, retired solider ( army) and a republican. When the republicans in the room booed , I was mortified. HOWEVER, people must understand this was just one room full bozos...they DO NOT speak for the majority of us. Ask yourself this, if you are a democrat, do democrats say and do things that you agree with 100 percent of the time?
I know this is many years after you made your comment, but I hope in the time that has passed you have come to realize that this clip was not about the people in the audience that were booing. This clip was about the candidates on the stage and their failure to support someone who they are running for the office that will make them his commander in chief. Were you only mortified by the booing, or were you equally let down by their collective inability to support a soldier.
🤣😂 we haven't fought for freedom since we fought ourselves🤣
Deplorables before they were rightfully called Deplorables by Hillary.
The newsroom would have SO much new material nowadays. At the time I felt that at some point they would run up too much into "today" making it impossible to tell high quality stories any more. And this might even be one of the reasons the show was cancelled. Yet it would be a good time now to do a continuation or a reboot.
Hell yeah. Doesn't matter who you are or what you classify yourself as, your a human being who deserves the proper honor and respect until you prove otherwise.
Im from the UK did I see that doo? Look what happened in Orlando now? Hope all those brave soldiers no matter what sexuality they are come home safe always, God bless my country, and God Bless America.
I visited my gf who is a veterinarian student at Purdue. My gf and I went to a movie Saturday night. I asked if they gave discounts for military personnel. She said no, but we do for students. My gf spoke up and asked, why does she get a discount for being a student but my bf doesn’t for being in the military? I thought a valid question. She says, it’s not our policy. My gf says, then maybe you should change that? The man behind us is listening to the entire conversation and says, I’ll buy their tickets for them and you should be ashamed. The manager comes out and says I’m sorry but you’ll have to go, you’re creating a disturbance in our lobby. The man, who’s already said he’d buy the tickets for us, says: if you kick them out I’m calling my wife and the news will be here in 10 minutes, your move sir. There are some people who get it and some people who don’t. We watched aquaman with our new best friend for free 🙌🏽 thanks Dan and Semper fi
I fully acknowledge that The Newsroom, while an all-around brilliant show, is still completely fictional. However, the storyline DID expose a real-life double standard. Conservatives accused former San Francisco 49er Colin Kaepernick of being "unamerican", "unpatriotic", "hating America" and "disrespecting our military" for kneeling during the National Anthem. But, for some reason, real-life Republican audience members attending a real-life Republican presidential debate and booing a gay soldier who was literally deployed to Iraq was NOT considered "disrespectful" by Republicans, but was instead categorized as private citizens "exercising their 1st Amendment rights." That was a really interesting take on such a blatantly disrespectful act of expression towards an actively serving member of the military. Colin Kaepernick got blacklisted from the NFL for kneeling, which had NOTHING to do with the military. But private citizens who directly booed an actively serving member of the military were given a free pass.
Keep in mind that, while the show is fictional, this event did take place, in the date provided in the video. So your statement is more solid than you think it is. And yes, we all know how things roll there.
When I served back in 1980 we had a bunch of people working for the government come check our barracks . They were checking for anyone being gay. I had my own barrack only female soldier at the time the guys had 3. We were in isolation. Sad to see soldiers willing to fight for our country yet have to hide their sexuality.Who cares just be grateful for them protecting you and thankful. They're the true hero.
Loved this show, need more of them. Some of this Nations people need to be called out, held accountable for their rhetoric and their ignorant leadership