Don't ever speak down to the Lucrehulk in my presence
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We'll take a look at the Lucrehulk as it exists in Star Wars canon and Legends. All that and more on today's Star Wars video.
Edited by Mar Mar!
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Doesn't matter to where I am at personally with the star wars franchise if it's doing good or bad. Anything CIS related always gets me excited to hear about.
You might like the video “what if the Droid Army joined the rebel alliance” by Pente Patrol Star Wars
@@buffalowt , I have seen almost every single video regarding the CIS. It's just one of my favorite Science fiction factions. But thank you anyways.
Same! I love learning about the CIS Droid armies. Their weapons are some of the most interesting things to me in Star Wars.
@benalor1973 1000% agreed. I've pretty much completely tuned out of Star Wars, both actual SW media as well as UA-cam. But I saw this video and immediately went to watch it. I love the CIS
Thats ong
The Lucrehulk is the best ship ever designed in Star Wars that doesn’t include super weapons or dreadnoughts. Prove me wrong
You can’t bro
Harrower class battle cruiser.
A decent argument could be made that it IS a dreadnaught, at least in spirit.
I mean seriously, have you *SEEN* how big those fuckin things are? like, really thought about it? Because I tried to 3d print one once, only to realize it would take like 3 rolls of 1kg filament. Things are massive, literally massive.
Venator and Imperial-Class Star Destroyers. The basic flagships are all dope tbh...
Neither come close.@@thalmoragent9344
I don't know why, but I like the fact that the Droid fighter craft walks around on its "legs" like a giant pterodactyl
They are a really good design, nothing else really looks like them
The Vulture Droids, yeah they do that.
They're the magnum opus of a dedicated race of engineers
It’s amusing and a fascinating design choice when landing gear and wheels/treds are tried and true options
It makes sense too since if there is anti-air, the droid can land and still be useful (my only changes would be in weapon strength, a shield, and missiles still being able to be used when landed
"Doom donut on standby. Prepare to be glazed." -Lucrehulk battleship captain upon exiting hyperspace. Probably.
Unironically though, the Lucrehulk battleship is one of the most powerful warships in the setting. It is closer in size and capability to a mobile Golan platform than a "traditional" battleship. It took to being a warship astoundingly well for a converted merchant vessel. Though, that may be in part because when it comes to star wars capital ships, bigger almost always equals better.
The day I found out that the Lucrehulk was a ship and not a space station was wild.
Yeah 😂 me too
@@sumukhvmrsat6347 It's so damned big it might as well be a station with engines bolted on
@@thebighurt2495 yup , it's in that secsy sweet spot between space station dreadnought and warship
A terrible ship for slugging matches, but a hauler refitted into a carrier? Magnificent.
Magnificent indeed! And if a hauler was refitted into a frigate it was ...
... munificent!
@@amarured*Slowly claps*
Now the door is open.
@@amaruredAh, a good star wars pun.
*I SHALL ADD IT AS A FINE ADDITION TO MY MEME COLLECTION*
The battleship variant was a beast comparable to kuat dreadnaughts
It's a great landing ship and carrier. Like an LHD. The guns for self defense are just a bonus.
It never occurred to me that the Lucrehulk we saw in TPM was unique amongst the Trade Federation's fleet, I guess I always just assumed that the other Lucrehulks we see on screen were also filled droids and fighters, but it makes total sense that they would only have one ship like that at the time while the rest were all still configured to carry conventional cargo, and it explains why they didn't have a backup droid control ship when the main one was destroyed.
I actually love this ship. Probably my favourite. It’s got great lore. Looks cool and impressive. And would love to know what a modernised version of it would look like.
...Thank you, now I'm imagining a Lucrehulk with the defensive systems of a Mon Calamari ship and the weapons of an ISD, and it's f*cking terrifying.
With all that cargo space… Interdiction bubbles on a ship that can actually take a hit?
I just realized. A corporation has a seat in the senate.
Did the Republic have a Citizens United case before their high court?
@@MonkeyJedi99 More likely was that the Republic prior to the prequals was bending over backwards to get big corporations to develop the neglected territories for them, and seats in the government were one of the offers made to the largest ones.
If nothing else, it does a wonderful job of highlighting just how broken their system is even before Palpatine started taking hammers to it during the Clone Wars.
I love how you're revisiting these vessels Eck. The first generation of Lucrehulk-class Battleship was only hampered with it's blindspots not covered by the arcs of the nasty quad-turbolasers across the equatorial and aft sections. In addition to the additional reactor systems linked to the main hypermatter reactor.
Surprisingly, the Geonosians drew inspiration from the centerspheres of these freighters for the basic shape of the First Death Star. Another behind-the-scenes fact is that the Lucrehulk-class was intended to be a thematic predecessor to the Imperial-class Star Destroyers as denoted by Times Magazine.
I love the Lucrehulk, with its large reactor you can fit definetly fit heavy turbolasers on it and it has plenty anti starfighter defense. That and the ship just looks cool, imagine being on a bridge and comanding one.
I think the Lucrehulk should've had a supersized version like the Providence had it's own supersized version.
It is a super sized ship man ,.... of the Munificients 😅
"By the Emperor, can these things get any bigger!" The Lucrehulk is HUGE already, it gets much bigger and it can probably give the Death Star a Hug.
Technicaly, DeathStar was supersized version oc LH Coreship 😉
How huge do you want the damn thing? It's already by far the largest ship you'd actually run into during the clone wars. The only things larger were the malevolence/subjugator class heavy cruisers and the few republic dreadnoughts, which were exceedingly rare.
It's already a supersized ship on the level of a dreadnaught....
I just love how useful the ship can be. It makes a great work ship, a great carrier, and while not a fantastic front line fighter it's one of the few ships with the ability to project 360 fire with main and tertiary weapons.
These ships are so big that entire smaller shipping companies could base their organizations out of one including just having everyone live on the ship. You jump into a system, release all your smaller freighters to different planets to drop off/pickup, they all fly back to the LH and you jump to the next destination with all your ships and cargo secured. Plus these ships are so vast that they can easily hide an ocean of weapons internally and externally and mount serious shields.
Lucrehulk was and always will be the most simple yet scary and powerful carrier/battle ship...saw ep 1 as a child and oh my lord I fell in love with the size of that ship, the powerful quad turbo lasers firing with immense fire power and carrying thousands of star fighters and planetary size invasion force
I used to buy into the myth that these things were a joke, until I played Republic Commando.
Yeah you were in a crippled acclimator; but that entire mission is just you hanging on by a thread. Pretty much anything up to a late war venator struggled to go toe to toe with the thing.
To be honest, RC gave a very realistic look at what the war was like for a non-superhero though, much like how stormtroopers are actually pretty terrifying.
Seriously. I still love Sev "seeing" the Lucrehulk on the edge of the system, and then it just drops out of hyperspace. Now that I think about it, RC might be one of the only times we see a lucrehulk drop out of hyperspace.
There’s a reason why it’s called a “battleship”
Idk.... 2 Acclamators (one of which was hanging by a thread as you said) taking out a Lucrehulk proved that it was extremely underpowered as the Acclamators themselves weren't particularly powerful.
@@richardched6085 Your ship was literally coming apart at your feet, and the Luchrehulk was in prolonged sustained combat AND had sent half of it's troop complement at you. It couldn't afford another sustained combat partially because of damage, but mostly because they didn't have the troops to sustain anything against a boarding action.
The Luchrehulk didn't lose because it was outgunned, it left because it's mission was a failure, there's literally nothing left to gain and no point in sustaining more damage. The other Acclimator have forced their hand OR would have destroyed our ship if they tried to force their way aboard the ghost ship again.
Honestly the damage your ship did was negligible, it just convinced them you had more fight in you than you did.
@@richardched6085Actually, I think Republic Commando shows the opposite. It shows how underrated the Acclamators are as capital ships in their own right. Twelve quad turbolaser batteries are nothing to sneeze at, and DOUBLE that number...that's a lot of guns on target. Of course we do have to assume the Lucrehulk chasing them was PRE-REFIT....
The episode 1 & 2 cross-section books are some of my favorite, just to see a little bit of the insides of these massive ships was amazing, also helped me as GM for knowing the basic layouts of ships for campaigns
Honestly, the Lucrehulk is a good concept for a space station. I'd personally fill in the entire thing so theirs no middle gap. And 3 kilometers wide? There's a lot that can go on in there. From recreation to ship maintenance and even limited ship manufacturing
The Lucrehulk is honestly one of my favorite ships. Basically a super aircraft carrier in space.
I love reading the Death Star novel where the Fortressa attempts to solo the Death Star. We need more ex-CIS Rebel ships.
Lucrehulk is the sole winner of the
"best warship never purposed" award
The Lucrehulk is, by-far, my favorite capital ship design in star wars. Evenly defended on all sides(at least the later versions), extremely durable, huge capacity, and it looks darn cool. They're basically a mobile battlestation, whereas other ships are weaker when pincered, the lucrehulk seems purpose-built for being surrounded. They're the perfect centerpiece to any fleet, meaning other ships can be more specialized and cost-effective destroyers. That's what I love most about CIS ships in general; they just seem a lot more practical.
A C-9979 landing craft measures 210 meters by 370 meters by 150 meters, which means it would take up a total of 11.6 million cubic meters. If you assume that a Tri-fighter droid would need a rectangular cube to be stored propertly (and not nested together) each Tri-fighter would take up 65 cubic feet of space. So if you could pack a tri-fighter droids with 80% efficiency (like taking up 80% of the space) into the same space as a C-9979 you would be able to 144,000 Tri-fighters. The Lucrehulk, with tons of extra space and other equipment and cargo, can fit 50 C-9979 landers. So you could _easily_ house 200,000 Tri-fighters inside of a Lucrehulk. If you were to replace all the C-9979 landers with Tri-fighters it would be well over 7,000,000. If the Lucrehulk were a dedicate starfighter carrier, then, it very easily fit 1,000,000 or so Tr-fighters in if you replace everything with Tri-fighters accept what you’d need to operate that many fighters (such as extra missiles and fuel). The problem then would be that it would take a very long time to deploy that many fighters.
Honestly, the Lucrehulk is still one of my top ships of all time still. The sheer size of it, the capacity of starfighters and/or ground forces it can carry. Plus how went from a cargo vessel to a battleship just oddly tickles my fancy. It was certainly a beast of its own time.
It is the ultimate carrier it could carry almost 2k fighters with a crew of 150 to 350 people
It normally carried that many, along with an invasion and occupation force of droids. If you crammed in as many droids as _could_ fit, the number it could carry would be in the millions of vulture, hyena, and tri-fighter fighters.
*1500
Actually, many captured Lucrehulks were used by the Imperial Navy as flight schools.
Not only is this a solid ship in its own right but it’s also almost as iconic as the Star Destroyers of the Republic and the Empire.
What would’ve happened if the Republic Judicial Forces fleet attacked the Trade Federation during the Battle of Naboo?
Or just the sector fleet of whatever sector Naboo is in. Either group would likely be too small to engsge full bsttleships though, espicslly if they are geared for antipiracy
It becomes more of a standoff than a battle. The Judicial Forces might not be able to take the Trade Federation but the Trade Federation likely wouldn't be willing to risk starting a civil war in which they might be standing alone over one planet by firing on "federal" Republic forces.
The only reason they destroyed that courier ship with the Jedi was that no one besides Naboo was watching so they had plausible deniability to the rest of the galaxy.
@@williammagoffin9324 interesting analysis
Highly underrated capital ship. Everything about it is perfect.
Might've used better Hangar placement. The ships coming off the donut hangars could've been pointing forwards relative to the ship's position, instead of having to make the sharp turn. Some fuel/power couplings and internal hangar blast doors to section off the hangar would be nice to have too, in case of fires.
I was always a fan of this ship. I can totally see it as a cargo ship converted into a massive carrier, and it is such a beast
Im just in that mood where your video hits the spot, just need some Sci fi
Oh so it's like an Indiaman ship from the age of sail.
Imagine taking a Subjugator and putting the Lucrihulk arms where the ion canons would go.
Supercarrier battleship.
There is something about this ship I have always loved. The simplicity in layout and it just looks so different. Always felt a squadron with one of these in command and paired with some Munificent Star Frigates would be devastating. Overwhelming fighters to overwhelm and keep enemy at a distance so large cannons on Frigates could snipe at enemies, when the enemy eventually go close the frigates could then advance to finish, and if they were lost it was not a big deal since they were almost entirely automated.
7:25
"Its a beast. Meant to sit in the middle of your formation, soak up firepower, dish out damage. It's not that fast, but it doesnt need to be."
That pretty much fits all definitions of a battleship!
Yo I am sure this is an amazing video, and I will watch it eventually, but for right now I can't get over the thumbnail, it's peak
Loved how you can just have a core ship as a separate detachable star ship
7:40 This screenshot is the top half of a poster I've had since Christmas 1999. It's a bit beat up, but it's still on my wall.
Love this ship so much! And some interesting trivia: it was based on the design of the Cothon, the harbor of ancient Carthage.
1) Take the biggest freighter you've got. Since you're the Trade Federation, that's going to be pretty darn big.
2) Design droid fighters that are basically Transformers that don't require any actual modifications to the cargo bay to use it as a hanger space.
3) Victory without breaking the bank. Since you're the Trade Federation, that's going to be pretty darn important.
Nice Video, that MarMar editor must be one lucky gal
The beauty of these ships is that you could easily refit the damn things into mobile stations. Imagine a mobile foundry, asteroid miner, colony ship, and the list goes on.
Frontline combat? Probably not the best idea, but with some reworking of the internals and weapons you could probably make it work. Have one act as the immovable center of your fleet.
#askeck Video idea/question for Eck:
You are in charge of New Republic fleet strategy, you have access to designs for all ships from present to a few years pre-clone wars, and you are aware that the Imperial Remnant is a potential threat. What would you put into the New Republic navy? There’s everything the Rebel Alliance had, and whatever they captured, but I’m talking about fleet composition and strategy going forward. What would you build, and how would you use them in this semi-clean slate navy?
The Venator would have complimented this ship well if the army wanted to focus on carriers over true battleships, and even if you're not, it's still a great ship to act as a base more than anything, a command and capital ship, large, durable, and having enough to defend itself
NGL though. The Lucrehulk is a massive and great Carrier.
The parallels between the Ruusan Reformation and the London Naval Conference and certain factions cheating on the treaties to get more tonnage out of their war fleets is just *chef's kiss*
since it is a vessel made with automated crew in mind, the thing is just hollow, it has a massive amount vacant space inside, the 70% of "donut" section is just massive hangars, you can actually believe that it was meant to be a cargo ship, thing can probably fit enough produce/food in it to feed an entire planet for months and months
it is no wonder that the clone wars was so messy, a single lucrehulk could have a big enough droid army inside to conquer an entire planet
I’m now imagining Lucrehulks with Star Trek-style beam arrays across the exterior surface of the curved arms, amplifying its anti-missile/anti-fighter point-defense capabilities to extreme heights.
Every fleet I’ve made in my head has included 2 ships. The Lucrehulk and the Raider Corvette
About time we had another Lucrehulk video
I loved it enough where I made an Imperial variant in Empire at War. It has green lasers and carries Tie droids instead of vaulter droids.
its one of my favorite star wars ships, and it has real world inspiration. the first flat deck aircraft carriers to see military service were actually modified merchant vessels. i think it very likely that fact was the inspiration for the lucre hulks origins as a cargo hauler turned warship.
Nothing made me smile more in Jedi Survivor than seeing the crashed Lucrehulk on the horizon from a vantage point early in the game and realising that at some point I'd be able to go there and explore it.
The Lucrehulk is literally the perfect flagship of a carrier task force. It is the ideal centrepiece. It is my precious, beloved baby.
The Lucrehulk is kind of a mobile Space Station, wich is why I love it so much
It can literally take on anything the empire throws at it. And imagine if it was chock full of High quality starfighters
A battle carrier that works is a dangerous one indeed.
Looks like someone bit a donut and spit it out
"Thats no moon, Thats the Lucrehulk"
The vite roman add both looks epic in the space battle side, and also the vite roman looks delicious
Great job mar mar!
Personally, I firmly believe the _Lucrehulk_ is inspired by the great _Cothon_ of Carthage.
Itt would be quite fitting, considering Carthage was quite the savvy merchant-empire, and also main rival to "the Republic".
I genuinely didn’t know about disney removing huge amounts of behind the scenes footage, etc. I can’t think of any way for them to justify that
Shoutout to the Battle of Teyr, where a Lucrehulk landed to act as a base.
my favorite thing about the luchrehulk is that it's a centralized place where you can remote control an army of battle droids. slap a cloaking device on the thing, make it untargetable.
5:23 in the Battle of Geonosis, I thought the spherical landers were the core section of the Lukerhulks in orbit
I have always loved the lumbering Giants the idea of setting of thousands of droid Fighters to do my bidding has always been a dream
Man I’m loving these video titles and thumbnails 🤣
Ah yes, the perfect starship. Good point defense, a thick hull, insane carrying capacity and a nice dining room.
Me: (flying above the Lucerhulk) people talk a lot of smack about you for something within proton torpedo range.
It’s probably the best fighter/troop carrier ever made in Star Wars. Sure they would need an escort and it’s kinda slow but it does what it was made for very well.
And far as i know this thing is like the only "super carrier" that exists, at least till after the galactic civil war. Not to mention its a Merchant ship turned warship which just adds to the cool factor.
the Lucerhulk is the best ship in star wars bar none. This is a _beast_ of force protection.
one ship is capable of blockading a planet.
_ONE SHIP_
and these things are avalable in relatively huge numbers for its weight class.
I get they don't quite fit the usual fleet doctrine of the Rebels, but I LOVE the concept of the Rebel Alliance recycling CIS ships to utilize against the Empire. On a symbolic level it just feels right that they're not only fighting to restore the Republic, but carrying on the fight the CIS believed in and was corrupted by the machinations of the Sith, that all worlds deserved equal treatment in the Republic and not just the wealthy and the corporations. There's an element of seeking to restore past ideals, while also accepting that the reality often fell short of those ideals, and they'll need to be better.
Honestly the best use for a Lucrehulk would probably be a mobile HQ. If the Rebels are worried that they won't be able to hold a planet for long before the Empire kicks them out, they could base their planetary operations out of a Lucrehulk in orbit. That way, when the Empire does show up, they don't need to spend nearly as long evacuating before they can bug out.
I love this ship.
Its an S-tier in logistics & supply management.
And a robust impromptu warship/battle carrier too.
CIS is basically the Dutch VOC (east india company) in space ;) and the lucrehulks are the space opera equivalent of a 17th century east-india-man armed for war, as they often were.
imagine if the post clone wars early revenge of the sith the trade federation stuck miniature death star lasers on the control sphere of the lucrehulk, so that a v formation of blockading lucrehulks could snipe through that little corridor that exposes the hangar's exit/entry way and the control sphere proper at whatever fleet of isd's, venators, unsolicited blockade runners, etc.
Don't make me angry.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
My personal absolute favourite ship in Star Wars. Whenever i look for a new mod for EAW, i always first look if this ship is in the mod somewhere where you can buy/build it. If not, no thanks.
Great video Eck!
The Lucrehulk is a perfect example of a doing a ship design thats outside the design standards of an average ship, and by that Im referring to its unique shape.
This ship to me is perfect for intergalactic travel to another galaxy. For its cargo capacity and ability to carry thousands of people/droids
I had a toy model of this as a kid when EP I was out in theaters. Best spaceship toy I ever had next to my vulture droid and N1. I love space battles that involve a lucrehulk.
Lucrehulk is all time great name for a spaceship, especially one that is a mass cargo hauler.
When i was six i thought this was the fist death star
Sometimes I wish we could see lore accurate capital ships in action, that would be some sights to see
The Lucrehulk is a neat space station design that got pressganged into being a warship and they did the best they could with that. It's kinda weird that the expanded universe has a lot about them serving an important position as the backbone of the CIS fleet but the Clone Wars series never really does anything with them. The fact that they have engines to move around makes sense and kinda makes me wonder why the Death Star doesn't have any engines either.
The whole Core Ship thing is a bit confusing; it was a nice spectacle in Attack of the Clones for a bunch of cores to be parked on Geonosis, but the whole explanation for that as some kind of regulations dodge is hard to follow. It's never really clear what the core ship adds, there's no weapons mounted on it.
If I could guess, I'd say that the core ship is there to ferry large quantities of cargo between the planet and the main ship. That way, the bulk of the ship doesn't need to land on the planet, saving large quantities of fuel as long as the core ship only needs to make one trip.
The big sphere is where all biological and bio-mechanical species of the cis live. It also serves as a mobile factory for it's complement of droids and craft if need be. TLDR: It's the nostromo (from the alien movie franchise) to the mobile refinery the nostromo was hauling in one.
Its not a space station pressed into being a ships, its more like a super container ship (modern super bulk carrier would be able to move the mass of 5 Yamato class battleships, and two fletcher class destroyers). Though one designed from the get-go to have limited but have concealed weapons.
I think the death star does have engines. They're just much smaller proportionally. How else would the first one have been able to move throughout the galaxy?
So happy that the Lucrehulk is getting the love it deserves.
The Luchrehulks main problem is it is severly undergunned, yes it has lots of guns but its lacking the larger ones.
If I were making a custom one, Id seal off the hanger access to the weak spot, add an extensive point defence battery of quad laser turrets, and mount many octuple heavy turbolaser turrets to the dorsal and ventral surfaces of the hanger arms.
With a full compliment of starfighters as an escort it would be rather brutal.
Video suggestion; go over the lesser known “cruiser grade” Star Destroyers from the Imperial Era ie the Vindicator, Gladiator, and Immobilizer 418 class cruisers, since the only smaller SD that tends to get a lot of video traction are the Victory-class (even though they REALLY need to be brought into canon on the big screen).
The perfect ship. Just by looks!
8:40 a cup, a ship, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa speeder.
Along with the Gozanti, the Lukrahulk is one of my all time favorite SW ships. If building a fleet, I'd quite possibly use one (or 20) as the key support craft. They'd act both as my fleet supply ships and my carriers. I'd very likely actually use one as the flag command ship. Setting one up as a command ship to head a large fleet from the second line and command on the startegic level rather than the chaos of the first line would be relatively easy. Add to that utility for invasion, planetary defense, area command ships, etc, they are extremely versatile.
I'm also the type who might watch a battle for an opportunity to pull an "Admiral Spoor Maneuver" i.e. disrupt an enemies formation by unexpectedly rushing my supply fleet directly into a pitched large scale fleet action seemingly unnecessarily with the goal not to actually join the fight or reach any actual goal but rather just punch directly through the enemies forces and out the other side purely to cause confusion amongst their forces enough to create a window for the actual fleet to exploit the disorder. To do that my supply force would have to have ships robust enough to 1: engage the battle line, 2: survive to the other side of the formation, 3: still present enough threat after punching through as to make an ememy feel there must have been an actual goal other than just to punch through, and 4: survive while the actual battle fleet exploits the confusion and breaks the enemy. Few but the Lukrahulk could pull that off and even then it would be several of them.
The CIS Had the best ship cause each role the fulfilled had a strategy and a purpose, each was modular and none of them acted the same as each other. Mean while you have the republic who whole strategy can be summed as 'Throw as many Vendors at the problem till a Jedi shows up'
Still wonder where all these vessel were at the battle of naboo. When the blockade started, there were loads of these and at the end there was only one.
FUCK. YES. This is my baby. This is the ship I would choose to live on if made to. Glad to see it finally gets the respect that it is owed. CIS is my favorite faction.
Most comfy captains chair in the universe
According to the Star Wars Eclipse trailer that thing has been around since the High Republic.
The thing I've loved about the pre-Disney EU is how much nuance we saw.
The early Trade Federation Navy were absolutely *not* the bad guys, they had to protect themselves because the Republic refused to do so.
I always loved the idea of a merchant navy militarizing, but still heavily indebted to it's historic ethos and design philosophy.
Hey Eck! Possible Video Idea, I'd love to hear about the different diseases we know of in Star Wars. There's a lot of info on bioweapons and things like Rakghouls, but not much on the everyday stuff citizens of the galaxy might see. For instance, I'm pretty sure niemodians are famous for having all types of diseases in their skinfolds. Does Bacta Help with disease? Are some Species not in contact with one another because one has a chance to nuke their society with pathogens? Idk, love your current stuff, I think there's a idea there lol. Keep killin it Eck!