18:53 "My platoon brothers still have battles to fight, obsolescence can wait" is a line that goes way harder than it needs to. Almost makes you feel a little bad for the B1 droids, being willing to sacrifice themselves for their brethren. Kolani's remnant force of B1s seen in Rebels is also very endearing, they're so friendly
Not gonna lie, as iconic as the B1 is in the Clone Wars as an antagonist force, I miss the Phantom Menace voice and personality of the 00M series. It felt alot more threatening then.
To be fair, we see that in the B1s in Attack of the Clones, so it's not even a difference between the models. They just decided to make them incompetent comic relief in The Clone Wars and Revenge of the Sith for some reason
Nah man it’s a different voice actor. So the 00M series sound different, a part of that is the voices lack the characteristics we’d like from clone wars, they lack warmth or curiosity.
Nah man it’s a different voice actor. So the 00M series sound different, a part of that is the voices lack the characteristics we’d like from clone wars, they lack warmth or curiosity.
@@retrodarktrooper6372They are not idiots in Revenge of the Sith and pretty much the same as in Phantom Menace. Only in Attack of the Clones they had no funny voice lines.
Well, seeing them attacking in large numbers is quite likely the Yuuzhan Vong would have problems. A platoon of B2 super battle droids known as the Orange Panthacs were deployed to the planet Mantessa to combat the Fire Breathers of the Yuuzhan Vong. So they have a chance to win
@@unitfifty-five7372they weren't produced anymore. (The empire made sure if that). But there were millions left over from the war that mercenaries and pirates picked up
Out of curiosity, an IG-100 Magnaguard costs 90,000 credits, now imagine a Commando Droid model that costs the same price as a TIE Defender (300k credits)
I think it is impossible that the Commando droid is more expensive than an IG 100 droid. It can be somewhere around the price of the Droideka, or at most double it.
@@nomercyinc6783 you have a very poor perception of the human condition. Understanding fiction is Understanding the mind of man. Inspiration often comes from nature, media, our struggles. The best inventions were inspired. The baffling stupidity of your statement makes me lose faith in the common man. Please shut up and leave the thinking for people who enjoy using their imagination.
@@nomercyinc6783yeah, because discussing which politicians lies you believe more or Lebrons triple double is much more important. It’s called having hobbies and it is important. It makes it so they don’t suck the fun out of every room they enter unlike yourself.
Destroy a hundred B1s, there's a thousand more to replace them. These guys may be fodder for the most part, but they are cost-effective and reliable enough for any job. The CIS certainly made great use of all the B1 was capable of with all the different variants and roles of the B1s there were. Them developing personalities and sentience during the Clone Wars was a nice touch too, giving them much more character than just mindless automotons, even if it didn't last long with their production being shut down after the Clone Wars ended and most B1s being shut down. But the amount reactivated warms my heart, knowing that so many still live long after the war ended.
I love the B1’s I’ve always felt that they got the short end of the stick. The clones at least had some semblance of compassion aimed towards them. The B1’s were always looked down on and mocked. I love Dr. Bones. I hope that one day we get a Star Wars show that will humanize the B1’s for us.
The B1s really are just existentially horrifying if you think about it. They're literally built to be destroyed with sloppy programming and directives.
I feel like a story of a stolen b1 being kept around as an "advisor"/pet/jester of a jedi general would be fun. Normal chatty personality but cut from CIS networks.
@@nomercyinc6783Just because they're made of metal doesn't mean they're not self-aware (and many Droids in Star Wars show a surprising amount of self-awareness, even those that don't speak basic or look humanoid). The tragedy of the B1s is that they weren't intended to be self-aware and through what is more or less spaghetti code, they became aware, and they're still treated as disposable, replaceable, and without any sort of valid experiences. The Clones, too, are tragic because they are more easily humanized, their individuality and self-expression encouraged by some of the same people they would be (through orders or chips) forced to kill, and for the thing they fought so hard to protect be taken out because of the Emperor and his cronies. Both of these combatants had the ability to live- to experience and appreciate the act of existing- stripped away from them. Both were discarded as soon as they were useful, seen as little more than numbers on a board.
The B1 battledroid was always so cool to me after seeing them the first time in the movie. Sure they were not the strongest, but it was something about their skeletal design that made them so appealing to me.
In our research of the B1s, our lead remembers an old source book, possibly a retconned edition he isnt sure, mentioning the Geonosian b1s were that color due to unique ores in the asteroids causing their orange color, a case of 'it's here, so lets use this metal' - Project Necromancer team
I think people underestimate just how profound that scene in the phantom menace with the legions of B1’s activating. It’s perhaps the first time the droid consciousness has ever been used for war in a many thousands of years. Pretty much the crow of omen for the dark times that led to the triumph of the Sith.
In one episode of the Clone Wars cartoon, there was an episode in which the republic asked for a loan from a banking clan and they raised the interest from 10 to 25 percent. But without an additional army of clones it would be very difficult. They would have to announce mobilization. And one of the representatives of the banking clan said that he had just given a loan to the Confederacy of Independent Systems under the same conditions (we know that they are not, CIS not pay any %) for 3 million battle droids. After which one of the senators said that they were wrecked. Of course, this was probably the middle of the war and 3 million would have meant a breakthrough and superiority CIS forces. So it makes sense.
Maybe "quadrillion battle droids" didn't literally mean B1 series battle droids but rather ALL the droids used for battle. DSDs, B2s, OG9s, the *entire* arsenal.
I love these guys in Jedi Survivor, as whenever I manage to get Cal killed by one of them (it doesn’t happen often, as I tend to target them first even when getting attacked by tougher enemies), their responses to being the ones to take out a Jedi are so freaking hilarious that I’m not even mad at having to respawn at the last visited meditation point before making my way back to where I was at before getting wiped.
The after-war life of these droids is heaps kool..even when playing the new jedi games with my kids, we get pumped to see all the Clone Wars droids, haha!! Pretty awesome storyline though
@@nomercyinc6783 No need to swear at me, its a Lego television show about a family named Freemaker. Lego shows are often surprising humorous for adults while directed at children, while also supplying a bit of action too.
It actually sort of is, Star Wars Squadrons, which is canon, has a paint job for the A-Wing that calls out one of the characters in Freemakers, I doubt all the Force stuff is real, but them as characters likely exist
there was never anything important about the cis. neither the republic nor cis were in control of their own lives. palpatine pulling every single string doesnt make any part of the cis great or special. the cis leadership deserved anakin ending them entirely and ruthlessly
I'd like to use the B-1s as minions. They're clumsy and stupid but they're loyal and they never give up. A single B-1 on Earth, today, would be the closest thing to a Terminator we've ever seen. Imagine the Atlas robot with a droid brain.
These droids have earned my respect they have so many advantages as a grand army and their big brothers the B2s they should be respected even if they are a little silly
Statement: It would behoove any ruler who wants to change the course of actions in the galaxy to simply make 100 of me, and send us to work. Unfortunately, this is not possible, as I am unique, and unable to be imitated properly
Imagine you are a GAR soldier, or a conscript, or even PDF trooper on some Mid Rim dirtball. You aren't clone, but you have been trained well and you have all the gear you need to keep that unnamed Mid Rim planet well in Republic hands. All is good, until Separatists decide they need that world, too. First some organic troopers come, maybe Koorivans or even local seppie sympathisers. They are trained, like you, but you have dug in, and they are not, so you repell them easily enough. Then Separatists deploy B1 battle droids. Those are even easier to fight against, they are walking openly, don't care to take cover and you cut them down. Then you learn those were just a recon... and Separatists now know, where your gun emplacements and strong points are. Now there are magnitudes more B1 battle droids, and they are supported by tanks, atrillery, aerospace assets and droid walkers. And the last thing you hear before your positions are overrun and your friends are dead is "ROGER ROGER" and discharge of E-5 blaster rifle...
I know that this show is in a grey area of canon. But I hope you have mentioned R0-GR aka Roger from The Freemaker Adventures. The Freemakers were a family of scavengers/mechanics who found Roger during one of their scavenging trips before the series began. I don't want to spoil the show for anyone who hasn't seen it. They join the rebellion somewhere in between episodes 5 and 6. And years later Roger was seen on the resistance base at D'Qar telling war stories as well as unique encounters during the imperial era.
I just checked, I can't believe you haven't done a video on these guys yet! I can understand if you forgot though, given you multitude of other videos.
I would guess that the transport vehicles that carry the folded B1 charge them. A type of wireless charging station as they are held or a small port. Using the same power generator as the transport to recharge any droids before redeploying them.
45 million droids is absurdly low for a galactic war involving thousands of planets, especially in canon where we rarely see organic confederate troopers.
A bit after the segment about the price of a B1, I remembered something mentioned in the Clone Wars series. When Grievous destroys a B1, Dooku reprimands him over a hologram, saying something along the lines of, "Battle Droids aren't cheap, you don't see the Jedi treating their clones so ruthlessly." Edit: Found a clip of the scene, he says, and I quote, "Grievous, those battle droids are expensive." The clip cuts off before the comment about the clones so I don't know how close I was.
We only ever saw smaller than a quarter of what the droid army was. During the Clone Wars. So we don't even truly know the actual number. Imma keep believing it was Quadrillion but was too much for Palpatine so it remained on standby.
I'm surprised nobody realized that if the separatists actually pulled their hands right and we're controlled by the palpa. the clones would have lost the war
I like the video and especially agree with the quantity. Often in such universes the sizes are inflated, hundreds of millions! BILLIONS, QUANTELIONS! But they never show them. Motivating laziness to draw, it is expensive to shoot in films and cartoons. But it seems to me that the matter is in relatively small quantities. 1.2 million clones? Yes. Maybe 1-3 million, seems realistic. But forgetting that there are still usually people in the planetary defense forces. 40 million droids or 60-70 of all modifications, more is true. The same goes for the number of ISDs. In legends there are 25,000 of them, which is a lot and we don’t see them. The alliance base on Hoth, led by Vader, was stormed by 3 ISD. Not 300 or 30. This is a rebel base. There is not a lot of nothing in either games or movies. In the universe, a lot of everything is explained by a low price. But I would suggest the opposite! Money costs more, and especially military products. Such as droids or spaceships. Now, as far as I understand, you can buy a space interceptor for 10 salaries. But this is nonsense. I think the price is from 1000 salaries. And besides, an apple costs not 1 credit, but 0.01 credit. Then the price of the equipment is really normal and at least a little realistic.
The numbers in Star Wars are generally far too small, tbh. How many habitable star systems are there in the known galaxy? Probably around 30 million. If you want to show military strength and presence like the Empire with its Tarkin Doctrine, 25,000 ISDs is not enough. Hell, even 100,000 won't cut it. The same goes for armies, especially the CIS. But I agree, giving huge numbers and then showing at most 20 starships seems dishonest and lazy. However, I also don't know how you could make a gigantic space battle - we're talking possibly hundreds of ships - visually appealing. An appalling example would be the battle of Exegol in RoS.
The most intense war was fought over several well-populated worlds with industry and economy. In other systems, how many living beings are there? The people of the Ahsoka race numbered 50,000 in total. And he had no economy or industry. They were simply taken into slavery and decided to be sold in one of the episodes of the clone wars. For such people, even 1 ISD will be too much. What is the point of inhabited worlds if 1000 oboregens with a stick in their hands can live there or 10,000? It is important to control sector capitals, strategic mines, trade routes, and shipyards. Nobody needed to sit on a planet with a population of 5,000 monkeys living in tents.@@Eric_Carraux_Eichler
The organic droid you mention might be something similar to what the CIS did to Echo after he was believed to have been killed getting Master Koth (spelling???) and Tarkin from the prison planet in the one episode of Clone Wars and with the final product seen in either Season 6 or 7 of the CloneWars show
I wonder if the B1's developing personalities is a side effect of not getting a memory wipe and simply experiencing things like an astromech or a protocol droid.
Numerical superiority is still superiority. Especially when it's as vast as the droid army. An army that doesn't think, feel, eat, sleep or do anything else other than expend ammunition in your direction. And ww2 Russian Army might have something to say about the efficacy of numerical wave tactics.
Anyone remember the movie Short Circuit? I always thought that those robots would actually be great combat droids. They put a lot of thought into that design. We already saw Johnny 5 take out 1-4 like it was game. Johnny could probably take out B-1s like a Jedi.
Programmed to never surrender? I recall seeing battle droids surrender on multiple occasions. Although the clone troopers or jedi involved just dismember/ blast them to pieces immediatly afterwards. The only one i recall being taken alive was the one in a jail cell scrubbing the floors
The OOM series were obviously more prototypical and not the finished article as far as the main run of the B1 series which they inspired. That said, they had their advantages. Although more vulnerable and technically less intelligent than the B1 series (and yes, they are, even if superficially more 'decisive' and less 'silly' than the B1s in the Clone Wars era), the OOM Series still had the advantage of not having as many rampancy issues. By this, I mean that, over time, B1 series had a lot of 'personality quirks' due to their comparatively simple programming being overburdened with far too many variables and commands, beyond what they were expected to deal with. Although the 'life expectancy' so to speak, of a typical B1 unit, wasn't exactly going to be rated that highly as mass-produced blaster fodder, there were simply so many of them (billions, perhaps trillions) that plenty of them were knocking around long enough to basically, start to go a little bit insane. It's why so many Separatist commanders from random Neimoidian ship captains to General Grievous, from Asajj Ventress (in her Separatist days) to temporary mercenaries like Bounty Hunters such as Cad Bane, became so frustrated with them. They were never mental juggernauts, though they started to become 'back chatty' and even argumentative. They began to develop 'personalities' not expected by their Separatist overlords, and many strange situations arose from this. In fact, it is one of the saddest aspects of the B1s, that many of them were 'intelligent' enough (even if portrayed to be comedic relief repeatedly throughout series relating to the Clone Wars, and even if commonly given a variety of horrible fates, again, largely for the 'humour', which is kind of dark when you think about it), to not only _fear_ their own demise, but actively try and avoid it. The OOM series were battle droids, and battle droids only. They didn't run away from Jedi even if said Jedi were carving through their squads with ease. They didn't panic and start talking in a depressive or jaded manner. They just kept fighting, comparatively mindlessly. This also adds to their more impressive quality on-screen, in that they are relentless in that respect. B1s have many advantages over the OOM series. Part of _why_ the B1s became so commonly 'quirky' and 'rampant' was that they were treated like they could handle many tasks they were never designed for, and so, they _did_ learn (there is absolutely no doubt that B1s did learn and develop memories on particular things; for instance, some B1s actually become saddened if they see approaching Jedi, because they essentially know they stand little to no chance, especially in small numbers) The OOM and B1 series alike are most dangerous in larger numbers. They are commonly underestimated for good reason, as indeed they are relatively weak, unit to unit. Flimsy, relatively cheaply produced and seemingly increasingly 'stupid'. In a way, it's ironic they come across as dumb, because they are behaving that way thanks to being overtasked and overworked with way too many jobs. The Clone Wars series (for all it's many, many flaws) even has them cleaning floors. It's like, okay, sure, the needs of wartime and corner cutting would definitely be a thing, though it sometimes becomes so 'on the nose' that it's comical (though that was _entirely_ the point; and in microcosm, it is a major example of how TCW series tends to 'operate', in that it made things up as it went along and generally messed a lot of things up for the sake of just getting from narrative point A to B as fast as possible, however was deemed 'necessary') A B1 bemoaning their lot in 'life' and sighing whilst being locked in a prison cell by Obi-Wan Kenobi, and just accepting it in a depressed way, is obviously just played for laughs. And yet, it does demean them a bit too much when this happens episode in, episode out. Back in 1999, the OOM series were established as a genuine problem in such large numbers, though they were deployed 'parade style' against the Gungans, mainly because the Neimoidians (and the Sith) had absolutely no respect for the Gungan Grand Army. I see some criticism for the tactics used, and indeed, attacking in block formations parade style indicates a level of arrogance and indifference towards their own losses. This is effective in this context, especially a full decade prior to the Clone Wars (22 BBY-19 BBY) in 32 BBY. The Trade Federation tended to collect it's debts using massed ranks of OOM series units, sometimes backed by Vulture Droids, AATs and eventually Droidekas as well once they became a thing. There'd be street patrols of squads of OOM series units, and this practice carried on with the B1s. However, pre-Clone Wars tactics like that often proved disastrous for ill-equipped squads of B1s, regularly hopelessly outmatched at points of contact, and defeated-in-detail patrol by patrol. To a capable Jedi Padawan, let alone a Jedi Knight or Master, a dozen or so B1s were hardly the most worrisome opposition. A hundred or a thousand were a different matter, depending on the Jedi; but it wasn't just Jedi whom could make short work of these battle droids. All manner of unit types routinely trounced them. However, this still obscures the sinister potential of B1s in massed ranks. The greatest misconception of all is that the Grand Army of the Republic was 'winning the war' against the CIS. No. Palpatine was winning the war how he decided to, whilst puppeteering both sides as controlled opposition. As demonstrably superior quality as the Clone Troopers were as combatants, they were far, far too few to have won the war without the interference of the Sith, meddling and balancing things out across the war, to stop the Separatists from truly asserting dominance. Greedy and corrupt leaders helped this ploy by the Sith, and the Separatists simply became the fall guy for the masterplan. The Republic lost the hardest of all. That said, the Clones themselves had it just about the worst, barring the Jedi of course. Although Order 66 wouldn't have been remotely possible without the Clones, the Clones were treated as detritus in the aftermath of their service careers. The Empire treated them like waste for disposal. Any Clone veteran would be worth many dozens of Imperial Stormtroopers in battle, and perhaps hundreds of them depending on the Clone Trooper. However, the Empire doctrinally opted for bulk; quantity, over quality. There were several millions Clones, though there were untold _billions_ of non-Clone Stormtroopers. It genuinely makes me wonder if the average B1 or OOM series unit, was about as good as your average Imperial Stormtrooper. Probably. George Lucas literally spoke about the Battle Droids sort of being like the original Stormtroopers (during the production diaries of The Phantom Menace) Imperial Stormtroopers would cost a _lot_ more than their B1 counterparts. It seems pretty obvious that B1s as a concept are better than Imperial Stormtroopers; more cost effective and can be deployed in even greater numbers. There are non-canon sources stating _quintillions_ of droids for the CIS, with the majority being B1s. That's clearly a bogus figure, though even a tiny fraction of that would still be so enormous, that it'd vastly outnumber the Clone Army. Dooku speaks of the Droids outnumbering the Clones 100 to 1 early on in the Clone Wars, and the odds are that the Droids were never really anywhere close to being depleted. Most Droids would be stored in starships for use later, or otherwise kept in reserve by other means, away from front-line action. Their attrition rates due to lower quality VS Clones and Jedi, would be horrendous, though expected and acceptable. However, it is likely only a small percentage of the Droids were _ever_ active at any given time, even at the height of the Clone Wars. In other words, they had more to use than they even knew what to do with, and on top of that, Palpatine interfered to make sure they didn't win the war. Given deliberately effective leadership, whom were _actively trying_ to win the war fair and square (without Sidious' shenanigans) then the odds for the Clones and Jedi winning the war, drop drastically. The entire thing was a big joke at the expense of the galaxy by the Sith, and a means to an end. Had Palpatine wanted to, he could have just let the CIS grind the Republic into the dirt and use attrition and far superior numbers to overwhelm the Jedi and GAR. They aren't invincible, though the Separatists were sat on more than enough military might to crush the Republic and Jedi. 10,000 or so Jedi plus a few million Clones? Stopping billions of Droids and heroically saving the day?! -- that's exactly the cockahoop malarky that Palpatine _wanted_ people to believe, to keep them distracted from creating the Galactic Empire from out of _both_ controlled opponents. The humble B1 was part of a doomed cause which still possessed a military capable of conquering the entire galaxy. They may seem stupid and useless, but trillions of lovable idiots with guns are still trillions of lovable idiots with guns. As for their quirks? Well, as a particular Jurassic Park doubter once said, 'Life, uh, finds a way'. No matter how much an organisation or megacorp thinks it knows about it's product (or it's people and in this case, droids), the universe at large will remind us to show more humility before nature. B1s having 'character defects' were never really 'defects' in the universal sense; defects to a military machine wanting to use them efficiently, yes; though this is not the full story. They become more 'human', as they learn, and their creators should not demean them for it (justice for the B1s etc) The Clones may have had it very rough, yes, but spare a thought for the B1s.
I'd argue that the B1s best strength was that they could do a wide variety of jobs. If they weren't shut down and thrown away, they would have been an excellent labor droid. If not in the sequels plot, then with new bodies that weren't politically sensitive.
All 25 B1 Droid Variants (Plasma Giants, Anti-Air, Assassin and more)
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2:02 Tyvokka is Plo Koon's master. Not Ki Adi Mundi's master.
I have a full size B1 statue that my dad made for me as a kid, it now guards my apartment. I love my little clanker
That's awesome!
WHOAH WATCH THAT HARD R!!!
That’s so cool your dad sounds cool as hell
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Your dad is trade federation employee?
It's pretty sad at how quickly the Battle Droids were beginning to gain sentience all the way until the end of the clone wars.
18:53 "My platoon brothers still have battles to fight, obsolescence can wait" is a line that goes way harder than it needs to. Almost makes you feel a little bad for the B1 droids, being willing to sacrifice themselves for their brethren.
Kolani's remnant force of B1s seen in Rebels is also very endearing, they're so friendly
Not gonna lie, as iconic as the B1 is in the Clone Wars as an antagonist force, I miss the Phantom Menace voice and personality of the 00M series. It felt alot more threatening then.
To be fair, we see that in the B1s in Attack of the Clones, so it's not even a difference between the models. They just decided to make them incompetent comic relief in The Clone Wars and Revenge of the Sith for some reason
Nah man it’s a different voice actor.
So the 00M series sound different, a part of that is the voices lack the characteristics we’d like from clone wars, they lack warmth or curiosity.
Nah man it’s a different voice actor.
So the 00M series sound different, a part of that is the voices lack the characteristics we’d like from clone wars, they lack warmth or curiosity.
Yeah they were so much better in The Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones. I hate that they made them into idiots.
@@retrodarktrooper6372They are not idiots in Revenge of the Sith and pretty much the same as in Phantom Menace. Only in Attack of the Clones they had no funny voice lines.
Pretty sad B1 droid stopped being produced after the Clone Wars. There's no way the Yuuzhan Vong would have got a chance against them
Well, seeing them attacking in large numbers is quite likely the Yuuzhan Vong would have problems. A platoon of B2 super battle droids known as the Orange Panthacs were deployed to the planet Mantessa to combat the Fire Breathers of the Yuuzhan Vong. So they have a chance to win
Wasn’t the vong stuff written before episode 1? Could be wrong tho
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The NJO series was written during the prequel Era, actually, from 1999 to 2005
Didn't the various criminal groups and warlords produce B1s still? The CSA made em right ? Cheap , mass produced and easy to sell.
@@unitfifty-five7372they weren't produced anymore. (The empire made sure if that). But there were millions left over from the war that mercenaries and pirates picked up
Out of curiosity, an IG-100 Magnaguard costs 90,000 credits, now imagine a Commando Droid model that costs the same price as a TIE Defender (300k credits)
I think it is impossible that the Commando droid is more expensive than an IG 100 droid. It can be somewhere around the price of the Droideka, or at most double it.
@@nomercyinc6783well then leave, and dont come back
@@nomercyinc6783 you have a very poor perception of the human condition. Understanding fiction is Understanding the mind of man. Inspiration often comes from nature, media, our struggles. The best inventions were inspired. The baffling stupidity of your statement makes me lose faith in the common man. Please shut up and leave the thinking for people who enjoy using their imagination.
@@nomercyinc6783yeah, because discussing which politicians lies you believe more or Lebrons triple double is much more important.
It’s called having hobbies and it is important. It makes it so they don’t suck the fun out of every room they enter unlike yourself.
@@nomercyinc6783They make up their own sh*t and then argue about it like it’s real life it’s weird af 😅😂
Destroy a hundred B1s, there's a thousand more to replace them. These guys may be fodder for the most part, but they are cost-effective and reliable enough for any job. The CIS certainly made great use of all the B1 was capable of with all the different variants and roles of the B1s there were.
Them developing personalities and sentience during the Clone Wars was a nice touch too, giving them much more character than just mindless automotons, even if it didn't last long with their production being shut down after the Clone Wars ended and most B1s being shut down.
But the amount reactivated warms my heart, knowing that so many still live long after the war ended.
As an old mech warrior once said, there is a special quality to being "good enough"
Ah, Clank Sinatra, My favorite B1.
He sings such wonderful songs such as My Way
Clankie Says Relax.
I love the B1’s I’ve always felt that they got the short end of the stick. The clones at least had some semblance of compassion aimed towards them. The B1’s were always looked down on and mocked. I love Dr. Bones. I hope that one day we get a Star Wars show that will humanize the B1’s for us.
The B1s really are just existentially horrifying if you think about it. They're literally built to be destroyed with sloppy programming and directives.
I just got promoted. Last words of a tank b1 before being sliced and diced by yoda
I feel like a story of a stolen b1 being kept around as an "advisor"/pet/jester of a jedi general would be fun. Normal chatty personality but cut from CIS networks.
@@nomercyinc6783Just because they're made of metal doesn't mean they're not self-aware (and many Droids in Star Wars show a surprising amount of self-awareness, even those that don't speak basic or look humanoid). The tragedy of the B1s is that they weren't intended to be self-aware and through what is more or less spaghetti code, they became aware, and they're still treated as disposable, replaceable, and without any sort of valid experiences.
The Clones, too, are tragic because they are more easily humanized, their individuality and self-expression encouraged by some of the same people they would be (through orders or chips) forced to kill, and for the thing they fought so hard to protect be taken out because of the Emperor and his cronies.
Both of these combatants had the ability to live- to experience and appreciate the act of existing- stripped away from them. Both were discarded as soon as they were useful, seen as little more than numbers on a board.
The Legend pf OOM-9. 😎
The B1 battledroid was always so cool to me after seeing them the first time in the movie. Sure they were not the strongest, but it was something about their skeletal design that made them so appealing to me.
As someone who mains the CIS in Star Wars Legion and loves using B1 swarm tactics, I approve of this video!
It’s literally a numbers game for the B1.
Droids are my absolute favorite thing about Star Wars. Not the Jedi, Sith, or even the force, but the Droids and the technology of the universe.
Same here
In our research of the B1s, our lead remembers an old source book, possibly a retconned edition he isnt sure, mentioning the Geonosian b1s were that color due to unique ores in the asteroids causing their orange color, a case of 'it's here, so lets use this metal' - Project Necromancer team
I think people underestimate just how profound that scene in the phantom menace with the legions of B1’s activating. It’s perhaps the first time the droid consciousness has ever been used for war in a many thousands of years. Pretty much the crow of omen for the dark times that led to the triumph of the Sith.
In one episode of the Clone Wars cartoon, there was an episode in which the republic asked for a loan from a banking clan and they raised the interest from 10 to 25 percent. But without an additional army of clones it would be very difficult. They would have to announce mobilization. And one of the representatives of the banking clan said that he had just given a loan to the Confederacy of Independent Systems under the same conditions (we know that they are not, CIS not pay any %) for 3 million battle droids. After which one of the senators said that they were wrecked. Of course, this was probably the middle of the war and 3 million would have meant a breakthrough and superiority CIS forces. So it makes sense.
Maybe "quadrillion battle droids" didn't literally mean B1 series battle droids but rather ALL the droids used for battle. DSDs, B2s, OG9s, the *entire* arsenal.
I love these guys in Jedi Survivor, as whenever I manage to get Cal killed by one of them (it doesn’t happen often, as I tend to target them first even when getting attacked by tougher enemies), their responses to being the ones to take out a Jedi are so freaking hilarious that I’m not even mad at having to respawn at the last visited meditation point before making my way back to where I was at before getting wiped.
Glad I just found this channel.... Getting me through some tough times
The after-war life of these droids is heaps kool..even when playing the new jedi games with my kids, we get pumped to see all the Clone Wars droids, haha!!
Pretty awesome storyline though
While not canon, there was R0-GR, Roger, from the Freemaker Adventures, a battle droid turned nanny for three generations of Freemakers.
@@nomercyinc6783 No need to swear at me, its a Lego television show about a family named Freemaker. Lego shows are often surprising humorous for adults while directed at children, while also supplying a bit of action too.
@@nfinity1421man I really thought that dude WAS canon nowadays, still no?
@@floydbaker2240 Roger could be. I heard one of the droid books mentioned him and it was canon, but I had not read it, so I do not know.
@@nfinity1421I'll just pretend he is because that's more fun
It actually sort of is, Star Wars Squadrons, which is canon, has a paint job for the A-Wing that calls out one of the characters in Freemakers, I doubt all the Force stuff is real, but them as characters likely exist
The quality of your videos is amazing.
Thanks I appreciate that!
a string of CIS centered content and i’m all for it!! love ya meta
there was never anything important about the cis. neither the republic nor cis were in control of their own lives. palpatine pulling every single string doesnt make any part of the cis great or special. the cis leadership deserved anakin ending them entirely and ruthlessly
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Mr. Bones is probably one of my favorite droids in canon.
I'd like to use the B-1s as minions. They're clumsy and stupid but they're loyal and they never give up. A single B-1 on Earth, today, would be the closest thing to a Terminator we've ever seen. Imagine the Atlas robot with a droid brain.
B1s are one of my favorite rank-and-file enemy footsoldiers in fiction. I also like how they have different variants.
2:02 Slight whoops here. It wasn’t Ki-Adi’s master, it was Plo Koon’s master.
These droids have earned my respect
they have so many advantages as a grand army and their big brothers the B2s they should be respected even if they are a little silly
Hk 47 wants a word
Clarification: while deadly on an armada scale, b1s are notoriously ineffective and clumsy. As individuals, they are next to useless
Statement: It would behoove any ruler who wants to change the course of actions in the galaxy to simply make 100 of me, and send us to work. Unfortunately, this is not possible, as I am unique, and unable to be imitated properly
I want a complete Break Down of the KX-series Security Droid.
I would love to see canonical encounter between Mr Bones and hk-47
Love Mr. Bones and the Aftermath book trilogy. Mark Thompson is the Star Wars voice acting GOAT
*Turn on the clanka*
*Cheer the clanka*
*Give all possessions to the clanka*
Edit: GIVE US AN VIDEO ON HKB-3 HUNTER KILLER DROID
Tyvokka was Plo Koon's master. Not Kai-Adi Mundi's. Just to clarify 😊
Imagine you are a GAR soldier, or a conscript, or even PDF trooper on some Mid Rim dirtball. You aren't clone, but you have been trained well and you have all the gear you need to keep that unnamed Mid Rim planet well in Republic hands. All is good, until Separatists decide they need that world, too. First some organic troopers come, maybe Koorivans or even local seppie sympathisers. They are trained, like you, but you have dug in, and they are not, so you repell them easily enough. Then Separatists deploy B1 battle droids. Those are even easier to fight against, they are walking openly, don't care to take cover and you cut them down. Then you learn those were just a recon... and Separatists now know, where your gun emplacements and strong points are. Now there are magnitudes more B1 battle droids, and they are supported by tanks, atrillery, aerospace assets and droid walkers. And the last thing you hear before your positions are overrun and your friends are dead is "ROGER ROGER" and discharge of E-5 blaster rifle...
Right off the bat, the Iconic B1 march on Naboo.
B1s have spawned so many memes over the years
Finnally the detailed lore ive been wanting
glad to hear it
I know that this show is in a grey area of canon. But I hope you have mentioned R0-GR aka Roger from The Freemaker Adventures. The Freemakers were a family of scavengers/mechanics who found Roger during one of their scavenging trips before the series began. I don't want to spoil the show for anyone who hasn't seen it. They join the rebellion somewhere in between episodes 5 and 6. And years later Roger was seen on the resistance base at D'Qar telling war stories as well as unique encounters during the imperial era.
The B1 Battle Droid aka the best and most funniest cannon fodder in media ever.
Rest in peace, my battle droid brothers...
15:15 "Maybe if you got rid of that old ye-ye ahh programming, you'd get some jedi on your nuts and bolts. Droidaaaaa"
A clone is worth a 100 droids, but one dreads the inevitable 101st droid.
14:22 that almost sounds like the Ssiiruvi entechment
Imagine if battle droids were built to look like human skeletons, like the Terminator
That’s the Yuuzhan Vong Hunter Killer droid for you
@@akumaking1 thanks for reminding me
Why am I only now getting a notification for this?! This video has been up for 5 days?
What is the gameplay footage at 20:40 that looks like an RTS with the battle droids?
Meta NerdZ, sorry if it's annoying if I make a suggestion, but could you make a remake of the TIE Advanced X1 video?
B1 battle droids, or Clankers as the clones call them
Most common droid, yes!
Most deadly, definitely not!
Ah yes the B1s.. These are by far my favorite droids of all time without question!!!
They deserve a lot more badass lore😂😂
I saw the title of the video and thought to myself self “This must be a early April fools joke” 😂
I just checked, I can't believe you haven't done a video on these guys yet! I can understand if you forgot though, given you multitude of other videos.
Great video!
I have an oc B1 named CZ-IZ who is the ultimate example of self preservation as he does self maintenance and is super smart
Love your videos ❤ 🎉glad I
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Dude did his research, props! 🧠 👍
We all love seeing a video titles "the deadliest droid in the galaxy" and the thumbnail is a B1
I would guess that the transport vehicles that carry the folded B1 charge them. A type of wireless charging station as they are held or a small port. Using the same power generator as the transport to recharge any droids before redeploying them.
I love Battle droids they are so freaking funny 🤣
The most deadly droid in history is Chopper C1-10P change my mind
Another Up-to-date remaster B1 Lore video of Metanerds lore.
they are fun bunch when they have their own personalities.
The ig-97s don't get mentioned often.
I hope a B1 will be a main character in future star wars content.
Occasionally I will still hear someone at work respond with a Roger Roger… Easy to recognize the prequel fans!
45 million droids is absurdly low for a galactic war involving thousands of planets, especially in canon where we rarely see organic confederate troopers.
A bit after the segment about the price of a B1, I remembered something mentioned in the Clone Wars series. When Grievous destroys a B1, Dooku reprimands him over a hologram, saying something along the lines of, "Battle Droids aren't cheap, you don't see the Jedi treating their clones so ruthlessly."
Edit: Found a clip of the scene, he says, and I quote, "Grievous, those battle droids are expensive." The clip cuts off before the comment about the clones so I don't know how close I was.
We only ever saw smaller than a quarter of what the droid army was. During the Clone Wars.
So we don't even truly know the actual number. Imma keep believing it was Quadrillion but was too much for Palpatine so it remained on standby.
Tyvokka was Plo Koon's master, not Ki Adi Mundi's
Does anyone know from which concept art books those screenshots came from?
I'm surprised nobody realized that if the separatists actually pulled their hands right and we're controlled by the palpa. the clones would have lost the war
I like the implication that droids can develop true sentience only do to software fuck ups
I like the video and especially agree with the quantity. Often in such universes the sizes are inflated, hundreds of millions! BILLIONS, QUANTELIONS! But they never show them. Motivating laziness to draw, it is expensive to shoot in films and cartoons. But it seems to me that the matter is in relatively small quantities. 1.2 million clones? Yes. Maybe 1-3 million, seems realistic. But forgetting that there are still usually people in the planetary defense forces. 40 million droids or 60-70 of all modifications, more is true. The same goes for the number of ISDs. In legends there are 25,000 of them, which is a lot and we don’t see them. The alliance base on Hoth, led by Vader, was stormed by 3 ISD. Not 300 or 30. This is a rebel base. There is not a lot of nothing in either games or movies. In the universe, a lot of everything is explained by a low price. But I would suggest the opposite! Money costs more, and especially military products. Such as droids or spaceships. Now, as far as I understand, you can buy a space interceptor for 10 salaries. But this is nonsense. I think the price is from 1000 salaries. And besides, an apple costs not 1 credit, but 0.01 credit. Then the price of the equipment is really normal and at least a little realistic.
The numbers in Star Wars are generally far too small, tbh. How many habitable star systems are there in the known galaxy? Probably around 30 million. If you want to show military strength and presence like the Empire with its Tarkin Doctrine, 25,000 ISDs is not enough. Hell, even 100,000 won't cut it. The same goes for armies, especially the CIS. But I agree, giving huge numbers and then showing at most 20 starships seems dishonest and lazy. However, I also don't know how you could make a gigantic space battle - we're talking possibly hundreds of ships - visually appealing. An appalling example would be the battle of Exegol in RoS.
The most intense war was fought over several well-populated worlds with industry and economy. In other systems, how many living beings are there? The people of the Ahsoka race numbered 50,000 in total. And he had no economy or industry. They were simply taken into slavery and decided to be sold in one of the episodes of the clone wars. For such people, even 1 ISD will be too much. What is the point of inhabited worlds if 1000 oboregens with a stick in their hands can live there or 10,000? It is important to control sector capitals, strategic mines, trade routes, and shipyards. Nobody needed to sit on a planet with a population of 5,000 monkeys living in tents.@@Eric_Carraux_Eichler
The Automaton army is strong, but the light of democracy shall prev... wait, wrong universe.
2:43 They aren't born. There is no mother involved. They are grown start to finnish in the pods.
The organic droid you mention might be something similar to what the CIS did to Echo after he was believed to have been killed getting Master Koth (spelling???) and Tarkin from the prison planet in the one episode of Clone Wars and with the final product seen in either Season 6 or 7 of the CloneWars show
I wonder if the B1's developing personalities is a side effect of not getting a memory wipe and simply experiencing things like an astromech or a protocol droid.
Honestly at times i like to imagine someone getting abunch if these and use them to serve as waiters at a diner somewhere
Astronomically numerous throughout the Clonewars.
Complete breakdown? Yea, them clankers tend to do that.
Imagine an army of B1's and clone troopers...
Numerical superiority is still superiority. Especially when it's as vast as the droid army. An army that doesn't think, feel, eat, sleep or do anything else other than expend ammunition in your direction. And ww2 Russian Army might have something to say about the efficacy of numerical wave tactics.
Anyone remember the movie Short Circuit? I always thought that those robots would actually be great combat droids. They put a lot of thought into that design. We already saw Johnny 5 take out 1-4 like it was game. Johnny could probably take out B-1s like a Jedi.
What about the one who was in control of the b2 on the colasas?
Sorry for bad spelling
Miss my b1 in galaxies..
Now so a video on the B1R droid.
I want an AI chat bot that sounds like a b1
Love the B1s there funny and cool looking and show signs of emotions and feelings and war crimes against them its sad. Rip all destroyed battle droids
I love the B1 droids. I’d love to own one. I’ll probably disconnect the chattering voice box. Or just program it to say “Roger Roger”
Programmed to never surrender? I recall seeing battle droids surrender on multiple occasions. Although the clone troopers or jedi involved just dismember/ blast them to pieces immediatly afterwards. The only one i recall being taken alive was the one in a jail cell scrubbing the floors
The best B1 was OOM-9. That droid was a beast
I mean, the droid army did give the clones a run for their money, so they had to be pretty tough!
I caught that GTA scene 😂
Sure look like there is Quadrillion of them in the clone wars microseries though XD
Cable recovery completed.
What background music is used?
❤ i showed this video to my brothers steam deck... It's a calculator now.
True
The OOM series were obviously more prototypical and not the finished article as far as the main run of the B1 series which they inspired. That said, they had their advantages. Although more vulnerable and technically less intelligent than the B1 series (and yes, they are, even if superficially more 'decisive' and less 'silly' than the B1s in the Clone Wars era), the OOM Series still had the advantage of not having as many rampancy issues.
By this, I mean that, over time, B1 series had a lot of 'personality quirks' due to their comparatively simple programming being overburdened with far too many variables and commands, beyond what they were expected to deal with. Although the 'life expectancy' so to speak, of a typical B1 unit, wasn't exactly going to be rated that highly as mass-produced blaster fodder, there were simply so many of them (billions, perhaps trillions) that plenty of them were knocking around long enough to basically, start to go a little bit insane. It's why so many Separatist commanders from random Neimoidian ship captains to General Grievous, from Asajj Ventress (in her Separatist days) to temporary mercenaries like Bounty Hunters such as Cad Bane, became so frustrated with them.
They were never mental juggernauts, though they started to become 'back chatty' and even argumentative. They began to develop 'personalities' not expected by their Separatist overlords, and many strange situations arose from this. In fact, it is one of the saddest aspects of the B1s, that many of them were 'intelligent' enough (even if portrayed to be comedic relief repeatedly throughout series relating to the Clone Wars, and even if commonly given a variety of horrible fates, again, largely for the 'humour', which is kind of dark when you think about it), to not only _fear_ their own demise, but actively try and avoid it. The OOM series were battle droids, and battle droids only.
They didn't run away from Jedi even if said Jedi were carving through their squads with ease. They didn't panic and start talking in a depressive or jaded manner. They just kept fighting, comparatively mindlessly. This also adds to their more impressive quality on-screen, in that they are relentless in that respect. B1s have many advantages over the OOM series. Part of _why_ the B1s became so commonly 'quirky' and 'rampant' was that they were treated like they could handle many tasks they were never designed for, and so, they _did_ learn (there is absolutely no doubt that B1s did learn and develop memories on particular things; for instance, some B1s actually become saddened if they see approaching Jedi, because they essentially know they stand little to no chance, especially in small numbers)
The OOM and B1 series alike are most dangerous in larger numbers. They are commonly underestimated for good reason, as indeed they are relatively weak, unit to unit. Flimsy, relatively cheaply produced and seemingly increasingly 'stupid'. In a way, it's ironic they come across as dumb, because they are behaving that way thanks to being overtasked and overworked with way too many jobs. The Clone Wars series (for all it's many, many flaws) even has them cleaning floors.
It's like, okay, sure, the needs of wartime and corner cutting would definitely be a thing, though it sometimes becomes so 'on the nose' that it's comical (though that was _entirely_ the point; and in microcosm, it is a major example of how TCW series tends to 'operate', in that it made things up as it went along and generally messed a lot of things up for the sake of just getting from narrative point A to B as fast as possible, however was deemed 'necessary') A B1 bemoaning their lot in 'life' and sighing whilst being locked in a prison cell by Obi-Wan Kenobi, and just accepting it in a depressed way, is obviously just played for laughs. And yet, it does demean them a bit too much when this happens episode in, episode out.
Back in 1999, the OOM series were established as a genuine problem in such large numbers, though they were deployed 'parade style' against the Gungans, mainly because the Neimoidians (and the Sith) had absolutely no respect for the Gungan Grand Army. I see some criticism for the tactics used, and indeed, attacking in block formations parade style indicates a level of arrogance and indifference towards their own losses. This is effective in this context, especially a full decade prior to the Clone Wars (22 BBY-19 BBY) in 32 BBY. The Trade Federation tended to collect it's debts using massed ranks of OOM series units, sometimes backed by Vulture Droids, AATs and eventually Droidekas as well once they became a thing.
There'd be street patrols of squads of OOM series units, and this practice carried on with the B1s. However, pre-Clone Wars tactics like that often proved disastrous for ill-equipped squads of B1s, regularly hopelessly outmatched at points of contact, and defeated-in-detail patrol by patrol. To a capable Jedi Padawan, let alone a Jedi Knight or Master, a dozen or so B1s were hardly the most worrisome opposition. A hundred or a thousand were a different matter, depending on the Jedi; but it wasn't just Jedi whom could make short work of these battle droids. All manner of unit types routinely trounced them. However, this still obscures the sinister potential of B1s in massed ranks. The greatest misconception of all is that the Grand Army of the Republic was 'winning the war' against the CIS. No. Palpatine was winning the war how he decided to, whilst puppeteering both sides as controlled opposition.
As demonstrably superior quality as the Clone Troopers were as combatants, they were far, far too few to have won the war without the interference of the Sith, meddling and balancing things out across the war, to stop the Separatists from truly asserting dominance. Greedy and corrupt leaders helped this ploy by the Sith, and the Separatists simply became the fall guy for the masterplan. The Republic lost the hardest of all. That said, the Clones themselves had it just about the worst, barring the Jedi of course. Although Order 66 wouldn't have been remotely possible without the Clones, the Clones were treated as detritus in the aftermath of their service careers. The Empire treated them like waste for disposal. Any Clone veteran would be worth many dozens of Imperial Stormtroopers in battle, and perhaps hundreds of them depending on the Clone Trooper. However, the Empire doctrinally opted for bulk; quantity, over quality. There were several millions Clones, though there were untold _billions_ of non-Clone Stormtroopers.
It genuinely makes me wonder if the average B1 or OOM series unit, was about as good as your average Imperial Stormtrooper. Probably. George Lucas literally spoke about the Battle Droids sort of being like the original Stormtroopers (during the production diaries of The Phantom Menace) Imperial Stormtroopers would cost a _lot_ more than their B1 counterparts. It seems pretty obvious that B1s as a concept are better than Imperial Stormtroopers; more cost effective and can be deployed in even greater numbers. There are non-canon sources stating _quintillions_ of droids for the CIS, with the majority being B1s. That's clearly a bogus figure, though even a tiny fraction of that would still be so enormous, that it'd vastly outnumber the Clone Army.
Dooku speaks of the Droids outnumbering the Clones 100 to 1 early on in the Clone Wars, and the odds are that the Droids were never really anywhere close to being depleted. Most Droids would be stored in starships for use later, or otherwise kept in reserve by other means, away from front-line action. Their attrition rates due to lower quality VS Clones and Jedi, would be horrendous, though expected and acceptable. However, it is likely only a small percentage of the Droids were _ever_ active at any given time, even at the height of the Clone Wars. In other words, they had more to use than they even knew what to do with, and on top of that, Palpatine interfered to make sure they didn't win the war.
Given deliberately effective leadership, whom were _actively trying_ to win the war fair and square (without Sidious' shenanigans) then the odds for the Clones and Jedi winning the war, drop drastically. The entire thing was a big joke at the expense of the galaxy by the Sith, and a means to an end. Had Palpatine wanted to, he could have just let the CIS grind the Republic into the dirt and use attrition and far superior numbers to overwhelm the Jedi and GAR.
They aren't invincible, though the Separatists were sat on more than enough military might to crush the Republic and Jedi. 10,000 or so Jedi plus a few million Clones? Stopping billions of Droids and heroically saving the day?! -- that's exactly the cockahoop malarky that Palpatine _wanted_ people to believe, to keep them distracted from creating the Galactic Empire from out of _both_ controlled opponents. The humble B1 was part of a doomed cause which still possessed a military capable of conquering the entire galaxy. They may seem stupid and useless, but trillions of lovable idiots with guns are still trillions of lovable idiots with guns.
As for their quirks? Well, as a particular Jurassic Park doubter once said, 'Life, uh, finds a way'. No matter how much an organisation or megacorp thinks it knows about it's product (or it's people and in this case, droids), the universe at large will remind us to show more humility before nature. B1s having 'character defects' were never really 'defects' in the universal sense; defects to a military machine wanting to use them efficiently, yes; though this is not the full story. They become more 'human', as they learn, and their creators should not demean them for it (justice for the B1s etc) The Clones may have had it very rough, yes, but spare a thought for the B1s.
I'd argue that the B1s best strength was that they could do a wide variety of jobs.
If they weren't shut down and thrown away, they would have been an excellent labor droid. If not in the sequels plot, then with new bodies that weren't politically sensitive.