The most intense dogfight of my life - Ace Combat X

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024

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  • @EduardoHernandez-jl5qt
    @EduardoHernandez-jl5qt 4 роки тому +92

    I've noticed that ACX AI becomes ultra skilled when the player completes multiple missions in succession without failing. I've also played Operation X multiple times, but one day I played and finished all ACX's campaign in succession Ace difficulty without being shot down and immediately afterward I started playing this mission. All the enemies were much more skilled than before re-playing the campaign; Scarface 1 was nearly impossible to defeat, he pulled the most impressive maneuvers I've seen an AI do in AC. Pure epicness from beginning to end; I can say that ACX has the best (and most underrated) boss fight of the Ace Combat series.

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger  4 роки тому +27

      I've never seen or tested this, but... interesting.

    • @kanalkanali
      @kanalkanali 9 місяців тому

      0:25 how do people look at the that isnt in you vision??

    • @kanalkanali
      @kanalkanali 9 місяців тому +2

      i think i can prove this becouse i died to much in that mission then the bots became really easy. so ithink they adjust the difficulty to you.

    • @deviousN
      @deviousN 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kanalkanali hold down the target select button (Triangle in this game) this works on all Ace Combat games

  • @gracecalis5421
    @gracecalis5421 5 років тому +71

    This game challenged me in ways, I couldn't imagine. I still have nightmares over trying to beat End of Deception II on Ace. Missiles in this damn game aren't slow and telegraphed like in AC7; they're like a crazed lovechild between HVAAs and QAAMs.

    • @YoRHaUnit2Babe
      @YoRHaUnit2Babe 4 роки тому +2

      true

    • @Osai1234
      @Osai1234 2 роки тому +1

      i remember first getting this game and making the learning curve from easy mode(3ds default) to regular controls; still blows my mind how now im considering how many missiles a ship/enemy needs to be destroyed, mastering gun kills, speed stalling & overshoots, the right special weapon for the plan, holding O and watching the missile land, even maneuvers. Basically everything changed how i thought during place of ACX. i would like to thank the game as well for challenging me

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 2 роки тому +3

      But the SAM sucked even at Aegis but SAMs on AC Joint Assault are terrifying

  • @JinteiModding
    @JinteiModding 3 роки тому +34

    This is why I love Ace Combat X dogfights over Joint Assault
    Here, the enemy AI does extreme manouvers and moves very smoothly
    Instead, in Joint Assault, they just fly in a straight line and turn left/right or even drop/gain altitude, but that's rare. You can notice this easily when fighting Varcolac Squad.
    The aircrafts don't "fly" as natural as they did in X
    Also the AI in Joint Assault is really easy, even on Ace (except during the naval fleet on the final mission, that is hard)
    In Ace Combat X's Operation X, the Falken are geniunly good with the lasers, instead, in Joint Assault's Operation X, they don't even try

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 2 роки тому +2

      Joint Assault Falken don't use lasers except for that one in each special mission

  • @sirchby
    @sirchby 5 років тому +94

    I can confirm.
    ACX has lowkey the hardest A.I. you can find on any other series especially with Ace difficulty.
    Its enemy ace is left to be desired (Alect), but the mooks are far aggressive and frantic especially in large number, it even makes that one intro in "Mayhem" become so real like you're inside the chaos.

  • @_One-Two
    @_One-Two 6 років тому +60

    A trick I found to make any dogfight in ACX easy (aside from the Fenrir one because of the camouflage) is to stay low to the ground (50 to 150m/150/450ft) This is also the case for ace combat x2 in some cases (Final boss). Either A. It's "realistic" by making radar less effective due to the increased interference from the ground, B. The enemy pilots don't know how to handle low flying planes because they aren't programmed to do so (Prevents them from phasing through the ground like some planes do in End of deception I/II) or C. The programmers snuck in a way to make the game somewhat manageable on ace mode to S-rank without resorting to cheating

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger  6 років тому +18

      You know, I've played this game for so long, but I never specifically tried that. Not that I haven't fought close to the ground before, but I can't say I noticed that then. Also surprising to hear they don't fly through the ground then, I'd assume that would only make it more likely.

    • @_One-Two
      @_One-Two 6 років тому +15

      TugaAvenger In my time playing, the only time I saw the enemy phasing through the world was through Archelon fortress, probably due to it being one of the very few huge structures in game. Mt. Nevera has phasers too I suppose but that is difficult to prove. This just shows that the AI doesn't really have any way of avoiding obstacles, so they probably just have a minimum altitude that they can descend to, in order to prevent players from complaining about the ghostly planes. The fact that they can phase through Archelon fortress indicates an altitude restriction, since the map is 90% water and making the planes zoom above 2km all the time would make the missions way too easy.
      What I've noticed in this strategy, specifically in operation X and Atmos ring, is that the enemy planes (aside from Z.O.E. and Scarface 1) will just keep circling around your position at 1-2 km and never get a really stable lock on if you do the same at 50-100m. In the case of mission 12C Wild card it's actually dramatically easier to avoid planes hunting you down by cheesing them with the low altitude flying trick. Sometimes the AI rages out because of you doing this and they just flee at unrealistic speeds and accelerations. All in all it's fun to nitpick the AI of an ancient game on an ancient console. Just a shame that this game is as good as it is and no handheld titles since could even come close to what this offered. Disregarding Joint Assault because that game was a paradox of design choice.
      Another quick thought, I feel that flying close to the ground only gives the enemy only 1 viable "angle of attack" on you, namely from behind and above. This makes it even easier to avoid missiles since the only realistic way to get hit is from behind. Good for them to have stealth planes I suppose.

    • @TheLeo1400
      @TheLeo1400 5 років тому +4

      Also works in Ace Combat 5 when you are betrayed by the 8492nd. If you fly low, you can "lose" the extremely fast SU-47s and then come back for cheeky head-ons

    • @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
      @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 4 роки тому

      Or alternatively, use the Fenrir, fly low, wait for the enemies to drop altitude and bust out the thunder nuke. Every enemy aircraft short of Z.O.E and Phoenix dies in one hit.

    • @Blacksmith__
      @Blacksmith__ 3 роки тому

      I just S-ranked the game on ace and it wasn't too bad. I did have the advantage of a dualshock controller instead of a PSP though lol.

  • @badasstasticusbadass4908
    @badasstasticusbadass4908 4 роки тому +21

    Basically both Z.O.E and Phoenix teamed up in order to take you out... damn

  • @staaticc
    @staaticc Рік тому +9

    holy fuck Scarface was moving like Mihaly

  • @Orisose
    @Orisose 4 роки тому +17

    I know it's become somewhat unimpressive for us in this post Ace Combat 7 world, but I think this mission marks the first time in the series that NPC fighters could effectively use weapons like the TLS (aside from Pixy, who I don't think has ever even grazed me with the thing in all my years of play). I remember the (Razgriz?) four-ship group of Falkens being a real bear if you don't deal with them quickly, since they can rather competently use the weapon. On the flip side, dealing with this and the Butterfly Master's drone cluster has made the full complement of weapon UAVs alongside Hugin and Munin from "Dark Blue" seem somewhat easy by comparison.

  • @comandarpotatoe
    @comandarpotatoe 2 роки тому +6

    I miss this game. This was my first Ace Combat game and I still remember only using the raptor going through the campaign and Operation X in Ace difficulty. The X button got screwed up afterwards lol

  • @nelson831104
    @nelson831104 4 роки тому +8

    *me shooting a LSWM on the ground
    SYS
    - Mission Accomplish -

  • @exumbra1399
    @exumbra1399 Рік тому +2

    I'm just imagining the sheer exhaustion a pilot would go through trying to pull off these maneuvers!

  • @andrewrogers7404
    @andrewrogers7404 9 років тому +46

    Man, Scarface has some damn good AI. Are you going to post more videos of Ace?

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger  9 років тому +4

      Andrew Rogers I have a full playthrough on my channel, but I am planning a few more videos, actually.

    • @andrewrogers7404
      @andrewrogers7404 9 років тому +2

      TugaAvenger I know I watched it all. Your Alect squadron was just.... Wow.

    • @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
      @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 6 років тому +2

      DINDRAGON Phoenix has a theme song bragging about how he's the very best, and anyone who stands against him is as good as dead...

  • @tieradlerch.217
    @tieradlerch.217 3 роки тому +7

    I wonder why Joint Assault had slower movement of aircrafts than this series, may be it include a psm? Like ace combat 7?

    • @JinteiModding
      @JinteiModding 3 роки тому +2

      Nah Joint Assault it's just bad
      while the more freedom of "tuning" your aircraft and select more special weapons, everything else is worse than Ace Combat X

  • @Blacksmith__
    @Blacksmith__ 3 роки тому +13

    The Cariburn AIs in this mission are harder than the Falkens lol

    • @mochammadfaiqramzy5616
      @mochammadfaiqramzy5616 3 роки тому +6

      Yes! I manage to defeat them before after fregata takedown i must try to shoot cariburn quickly

    • @kpjammerwolf330
      @kpjammerwolf330 2 роки тому +4

      The Cariburns are goddamn agile so you'll should not waste a single nanosecond engaging them

  • @mochammadfaiqramzy5616
    @mochammadfaiqramzy5616 3 роки тому +5

    Tips for takedown Scarface and Z.O.E is, fly fast as you can use QAAM until reach between 1100-800M and shoot it all. I tried with same plane as TugaAvenger but different Avionic/cockpit using salamander (because this avionice improve air-to-air combat than tracer).

  • @kpjammerwolf330
    @kpjammerwolf330 2 роки тому +7

    I just started playing this game, I'm an XFA-24 Apalis main
    And I'm gonna know that this mission is gonna be hell for me when I play this (if I complete the game, that's for sure)

    • @rockfeller6351
      @rockfeller6351 2 роки тому

      What's the best jet? I use the x02.

    • @kpjammerwolf330
      @kpjammerwolf330 2 роки тому +1

      @@rockfeller6351 I "was" once an Apalis main
      Now I'm using the X-02 Wyvern

    • @jdjGSHBFjh68827
      @jdjGSHBFjh68827 2 місяці тому

      ​@@rockfeller6351FALKEN bar none
      you can max out every stat on the plane besides defense with the right setup.

  • @deltaxeno7807
    @deltaxeno7807 Рік тому +4

    So I was here before...3 years ago...
    So then, first thing's first, you fly beautifully.
    And, I can see why you called it intense. I mean, I knew Z.O.E was here, but then I saw Scarface 1. Looked up who that is...
    *It's Phoenix from the first two games.*
    You mean to tell me you can go toe-to-toe with the very first of the Ace Combat series? And apparently he can *TANK 3 MISSILES?* Like holy hell...

  • @deltaxeno7807
    @deltaxeno7807 4 роки тому +10

    This is Operation X, I knew it in an instant.

  • @SorcererAC0
    @SorcererAC0 3 роки тому +3

    I wish the guns didn't just magically hit a bandit just because the aircraft datum or whiskey marker is over the aircraft. I wonder what the devs were up to if they couldn't have leading shots with guns in the game.

  • @pavise6333
    @pavise6333 4 роки тому +11

    After seeing Zap and PositronCannon's The Gauntlet mod, I wonder if this can be modded as well. Imagine the chaos, fighting lots of stealth fighters and dodging the lasers.

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger  4 роки тому +9

      *shot down*
      *IS TUGA'S CAREER OVER?!*

    • @EduardoHernandez-jl5qt
      @EduardoHernandez-jl5qt 3 роки тому +2

      Or even better: Fight against all the main protagonists and antagonists from the series

  • @ZeroSSOX
    @ZeroSSOX 7 років тому +22

    my first game was 5, then I got Zero and went to visit 4
    I have a special liking for the 5/Zero saga,liking Zero a bit more
    but this one seems like it has really fun concepts too that the series as a whole should adapt.
    what's your opinion?

    • @Derpy-qg9hn
      @Derpy-qg9hn 7 років тому +10

      X doesn't really have any special gimmicks to it, and its story isn't exactly the most complex, though it's enjoyable for what it is. But, it *does* have some of the most difficult AI dogfights in the series (as evidenced here), and its missions can be many times more brutal than anything even AC6 M15 can put out. If you want to be constantly fighting just to stay up, let alone finish the mission itself, ACX is for you.

    • @calamitousenigma9052
      @calamitousenigma9052 7 років тому +3

      Couldn't agree more. While I found Time Limit easy and enjoyable, End of Deception I and II pissed me off because it was so difficult, but Armada was always very difficult in my opinion. I got DECIMATED by it on my 2nd playthrough (did 7A, 12B, 15A on my 1st)

    • @Someone123_88
      @Someone123_88 3 роки тому +2

      I think everything of this game is awesome.

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 2 роки тому

      @@calamitousenigma9052 I just used this plane in the video and shoot all the center part of any ship with all 4 missiles. Then you're good, the SAMs in these game ain't great unlike in Joint Assault .But the plane especially mobs they're annoying , Alect Squadron ? They sucked ass. I'm playing the game right now with emulator and this is my 4th and making every mission at S rank

  • @NeSeeger
    @NeSeeger 3 роки тому +4

    Caught a glimpse of the thumbnail and vid title and thought this was AC7. Havent watched the vid yet because im still watching your playthrough of ACX and dont want story spoilers.

  • @YaksBall8
    @YaksBall8 4 роки тому +6

    Holy sh1t, that was intense! I like but kind of suck at this game, still in my first playthrough. That was a manouvering lesson, great action!

  • @YoRHaUnit2Babe
    @YoRHaUnit2Babe 3 роки тому +3

    woah an Aircraft Drag system *AOA* in Ace Combat? no way

  • @MoltenUprisingMK
    @MoltenUprisingMK 2 роки тому +1

    You weren't kidding. Well, y'know, everyone has one of those days.

  • @hendrihendri3939
    @hendrihendri3939 2 роки тому +1

    Trigger: "God damn. this kid is a Natural."

  • @sethmcintyre871
    @sethmcintyre871 4 роки тому +2

    Dame that was totally intense. And Scarface was good in this video if I have played this game I will be piss.

  • @ootarionastrofengia771
    @ootarionastrofengia771 4 роки тому +5

    Some very impressive flying here, though I do have to ask, how come you kept chasing after Scarface (XFA-27) when you had that Falken riding your aft the whole time in like the last few moments? Were I you I would have ignored the XFA for a bit and took out the plane trying to TLS me out of the sky.

    • @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
      @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Рік тому +2

      Killing the last FALKEN ends the mission. Scarface and Z.O.E. are optional.

    • @kaeaja
      @kaeaja Рік тому +1

      @@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Ooooooh okay thank you :3

  • @Arrow_118
    @Arrow_118 7 років тому +6

    Whats with the trailing red line behind the targets? Ive never seen that on ACX before. Is that a mod for the emulated version? If so, how do i get it?

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger  7 років тому +13

      It's the Tracer cockpit part. It's ultimately of very little relevance, but I sort of like it.

  • @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
    @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 5 років тому +15

    Considering ACX takes place after AC7, it's safe to assume that Scarface One is still alive and kicking during this time.
    How fitting that the first protagonist of the series ends up being the final (so far) superboss.

    • @Dumbrarere
      @Dumbrarere 4 роки тому

      It's equally possible that Mihaly killed Scarface 1. He did say "I've faced pilots like you in every generation, and I've felled every single one."
      Remember, Operation X isn't canon.

    • @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
      @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 4 роки тому +11

      @@Dumbrarere Mihaly would get absolutely annihilated by Phoenix before he even realizes that he came into the wrong neighborhood.
      My dude fought in multiple wars and won them. USEA used *HIM* as a superweapon during the First Continental War (AKA the Usean coup d'état). His victory was flat-out one-sided, taking down even USEA's most powerful Ace Squadron at the time, Albireo Squadron, and even Gr(UwU)nder Industries' own ADF-01 FALKEN, which canonically has the battle data of Cipher and Pixy.
      Phoenix is kinda overlooked despite being the literal most powerful protagonist in the series.
      Mihaly (Sol) VS. Edgar Grint (Albireo). That's a less one-sided match, since they're both the best Erusea has to offer.

    • @ninovalenzuela1019
      @ninovalenzuela1019 4 роки тому

      then again you maybe looking at things on the other side of the coin...
      Remember Mihaly has a scar on his face....
      He may as well be the Phoenix that all look upon

    • @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
      @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 4 роки тому +1

      @@ninovalenzuela1019 Mihaly was still working for EASA by the time Phoenix founded Scarface Squadron. Plus, Mihaly is an old royal who works for Erusea while Phoenix was presumably in his late teens when he became a mercenary who wins entire wars for the right price.
      Besides, it wouldn't make sense if they were the same person since Phoenix actually fought Erusea and felled its most powerful ace at the time, Albireo 1.

  • @comicszoneuniverse
    @comicszoneuniverse 3 роки тому +7

    I didn't realised I had the best plane game of the world in my hands when I played it 10 years ago on my PSP... Now I can confirm it's the best Ace Combat game EVER. People who say different don't know shit about gaming.

    • @frumpsterfire
      @frumpsterfire 3 роки тому +4

      The Holy Trinity would like to have a word with you sir

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 2 роки тому

      This is my first Ace Combat and played many times. The Alect Squadron sucks though compare to the Varcolac but the mobs in these game are terrifying even at normal. Also the missile in this game suck ass, the SAM here also suck but it's fine. I was just traumatized at the SAMs in joint assault especially Aegis SAMs

  • @blackburn666_gaming3
    @blackburn666_gaming3 2 роки тому +2

    And my My favorite plane is the F-22 RAPTOR

  • @kyrozudesoya1829
    @kyrozudesoya1829 5 років тому +5

    To quote Nathan Explosion,that was brutal

  • @shoreshmoore7665
    @shoreshmoore7665 6 років тому +4

    I know I asked a similar question, regarding the mobility of the planes, but it would seem that the airplanes in this game aren't even affected by gravity. When I make a loop on AC: JA, the bottom and the top of the loop slow my plane down. in ACX, the plane doesn't seem affected by this at all. And the AI's actually good.

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger  6 років тому +2

      That is true to some extent. The easier way to tell is to roll 90º to either side: in ACX you'll barely move, where in JA you'll start dropping towards that side.

    • @adrianh7896
      @adrianh7896 6 років тому +3

      Shoresh Moore ACX AI is far superior to that of AC: JA
      I will say though that I like AC: JA physics. If your plane is tuned well you can do actual IRL maneuvers like the cobra for example, I feel like the physics are sorta., real., try it. Speed up then stall and jerk your nose up. You can even move a distance forward with your nose up

    • @shoreshmoore7665
      @shoreshmoore7665 6 років тому +1

      Adrian Herrera i would try that... But my PSP just broke two weeks ago. It can't read the disc anymore.

    • @adrianh7896
      @adrianh7896 6 років тому

      Shoresh Moore do you have CFW? You can get the AC: JA ISO from PSP Archives because I had the same issue.

    • @shoreshmoore7665
      @shoreshmoore7665 6 років тому

      Adrian Herrera What does that stand for? Is it some kind of emulator?

  • @blackburn666_gaming3
    @blackburn666_gaming3 2 роки тому +3

    In my child hod when the first time i played the game it was easy as pie

  • @TheGhostOfRazgriz23
    @TheGhostOfRazgriz23 7 років тому +15

    7:16

  • @swedenball6684
    @swedenball6684 4 роки тому +2

    I got a ps1 and a ps2 today and i can't wait untill i get 1 to zero

  • @carranzabecerraalejandro8990
    @carranzabecerraalejandro8990 4 роки тому +1

    FAAAAAAACKKK FACK FACK FACK FAAAAAAAAK! I thought you was gonna win 😂

  • @Anonyhouse
    @Anonyhouse 2 роки тому +1

    Strangely enough no ADFX-01 Morgan

  • @MarkizenBlast
    @MarkizenBlast 2 роки тому

    7:07 Reminds me heavily of "Watch your jet! Watch your je- "

    • @theap0killyp1k2
      @theap0killyp1k2 Місяць тому +1

      The Gripen AI using every line of its coding to crash into my plane by performing a Cobra maneuver:

  • @randy0210
    @randy0210 4 роки тому +6

    Both of the X missions in Joint Assault are harder

  • @wilsonfuentes2900
    @wilsonfuentes2900 3 роки тому +4

    HOW Stupid 7:16

  • @anshverma2278
    @anshverma2278 5 років тому +4

    How did j get free dogfight mode..?,

    • @JinteiModding
      @JinteiModding 3 роки тому +1

      It's a special mission, Wich is called Operation X
      I don't remember if you need all missions to be S ranked, but I believe it has to be done on a difficulty higher than "Easy" (in this case, Normal and Hard, or even Ace)

    • @cipher7129
      @cipher7129 2 роки тому

      Complete all missions in the campaign, it doesn't have to be S ranked as long as you cleared it all

  • @santablyat180
    @santablyat180 18 днів тому

    Scarface AI is the hardest enemy to shot down
    But before that
    carliburn not gonna let you kill them easy for sure😂

  • @blackburn666_gaming3
    @blackburn666_gaming3 2 роки тому +1

    This MISSION IS NOTHING TO ME

  • @blackburn666_gaming3
    @blackburn666_gaming3 2 роки тому +1

    First game i played it was ace Combat 5

  • @blackburn666_gaming3
    @blackburn666_gaming3 2 роки тому +2

    Oh i forgot

  • @kanalkanali
    @kanalkanali 9 місяців тому

    0:25 how do people look at the that isnt in you vision??

  • @hello-hb1ll
    @hello-hb1ll 4 роки тому +3

    What is scarface 1 doing there? Is this some sort of "ace of aces"?

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger  4 роки тому +2

      Yeah. It's a cameo, like Mobius 1 in The Gauntlet in ACZ.

    • @JinteiModding
      @JinteiModding 3 роки тому +1

      @@TugaAvenger also Joint Assault "Ace of Aces"

  • @maxyaedo1267
    @maxyaedo1267 9 років тому +2

    Puts the Macross Plus dogfight between Isamu and Guld to shame

  • @aldhikabl482
    @aldhikabl482 5 років тому +2

    Not a good ending
    But epic

  • @blackburn666_gaming3
    @blackburn666_gaming3 2 роки тому +1

    Then ace Combat X

  • @blackburn666_gaming3
    @blackburn666_gaming3 2 роки тому +2

    I can do better than thjs

    • @Fox1One
      @Fox1One Рік тому

      Ok bud, do you play this on ace difficulty?

  • @NicolasHU3BR
    @NicolasHU3BR 8 років тому +2

    still easy