It's kind of overlooked how next gen you literally couldn't play a single 360 game on xbox one. Now you basically are keeping your entire library. Big upgrades to their process this time around
@@JoshuaKnab That's true, as I think the focus was elsewhere in improving graphics, but it should have been. It makes more sense than 4K, which is a gimmick.
@@christophercoey7804 As far as games including it that is true, but I've been using ReShade for graphic enhancements on top of what is in-game, which has an HDR feature. Some don't always work or show much of a difference depending, but there are options even if the game doesn't have it itself.
This is the first game I have tested on every HDTV I've ever bought since 2009. I always loved the way the colors pop against the black background. Super fun game too!
This feature adds SO much value. The fact that it's already implemented this well before the console even launches suggests the integration will be solid. Hats off to Microsoft for improving older games.
@@AnImperfectSoul I'm not talking about the Auto-HDR feature. I'm talking about HDR in general. Specifically the dev authored HDR in games. It's always gonna be different depending on the game.
@@pegasusdrive12 They literally just released a video completely in HDR across several different games. It's definitely not as difficult as you claim. Besides, they might not even be using premiere.
The one issue I have with HDR videos is that there are never any comparison points. I can tell that things look different, but I’d really like to see a side by side comparison
Honestly PDO is the best looking back compatible enhanced OG Xbox game. It's gorgeous now on the Xbox One X. I miss those old SEGA dev teams! AM2, Hitmaker (AM3), Smilebit, Overworks, and Sonic Team to name a few.
In a future update, I hope they enable a user option to enable/disable Auto-HDR on a per-title basis w/o going in and out of system settings to adjust the master toggle. * Comment edited for clarity.
Seems like thats kinda how it works. You enable it and the xbox does it on games that microsoft has specifically tuned it for. Otherwise it does nothing. But yeah it would make sense maybe to have a further control when you can toggle it off for a game that while microsoft has enabled it you dont like it and can shut it off. Im sure this is something that gets tweaked and refined over time.
@@devsfan1830 that’s what I meant (but I worded it poorly initially). For example: Hover over the icon for a game that doesn’t work as well w/Auto-HDR (like Dark Souls 2 as mentioned in the video), use the application-specific menu in the Xbox UI to enable/disable Auto-HDR in that specific application w/o disabling the master toggle for Auto-HDR in the system settings altogether. * Comment edited for clarity.
Right now that’s how it works. There are a few games that have hdr that look better without it. I have to go in and turn it off in the system settings every time.
With quick resume, going in and out shouldn't be a headache. You can access settings from in game but it will take you out. Id imagine its pretty painless on the x/s.
@ lol even the 3080 and 3090 have problems with ray-tracing 4k 60 maybe 1080p ray -tracing 60 ... I just got my first 4k 144 hrz monitor , with HDR 600 , not the best HDR but at least i have that option
At this stage I don't even want to play my One X now and just wait for Series X. I just replayed Assassin's Creed 2, this would look amazing with auto HDR
@@Darkstar18773 it just seems suspicious to me if you know your console can complete and stand up to the competition why wouldn't you want to show people that instead its all quiet
As a 3d artist, HDR is best when you have objects with reflections, and use HDR of real environments and lighting. Would prefer to see an actual comparison of autohdr. Show us images of old verses new.
Of course that would a lot of work in editing to try and get the tone mapping right when putting the SDR output into the HDR encode. I'm not sure you could ever guarantee it was an accurate comparison.
Enjoy it ill have to wait till next summer,my one x has been doing a great job! On 24 hours some times i forget to turn it off and deactivated the sleep mode
Watched this on my iPhone 11 Pro and with my SDR TV and it made my TV look so bad. I'll have to watch again later when it's darker as that's when it truly shines (Pioneer Kuro).
I can not believe this game has not had a remaster. Or at least a optimized version. I'd love to play it again but its hard for me to play older games that haven't been "one x optimized". Since I've gotten so use to the high resolutions.
I'm watching this at 1080p60 HDR. This is absolutely beautiful. I see a lot of games I've played or seen before and they really do look so much better. Wish my tv had HDR support though. I'm watching this on my phone.
I just have to say, I am impressed with Microsoft. The back compat features add so much value and even if the hdr implementation doesn't always work well, I just love the option and would definitely play will it a lot if I would buy the console! I don't know, apart from the PC overlap, the series x becomes a must buy for me later this generation (Playstation first) when I can afford it, because it just gives me the ability to play xbox games from all generations in probably the nicest or if there is a pc version, second nicest way. What incredible value. Sony take note.
I think it's been clear since last gen Sony isn't focused on backwards near as much. With more people asking for new IPs, less sequels and pushing the new hardware, it makes sense. You can still play backwards, but not the best service compared to others. I don't care because I find emulators work best, especially when you add programs like ReShade. Gaming has been playing it too safe with just sticking to what works and sequels, reboots and not creating new games. Preserving the past is vital, but stagnating at the same time nullifies it. Besides, XBox it's easier to do backwards. They don't have two countries developing games. Nintendo and Sony do, so take that into consideration when backwards comes into play. It's a massive library Microsoft doesn't have to deal with, though Nintendo is the worst at preserving their games.
@@blumiu2426 Speaking of Nintendo, it’s sad how we went from the Wii (full GameCube back compat), to the Wii U (full Wii back compat), and now Switch (only select re-releases...)
@@DLBBALL As much as Nintendo sparks that nostalgia of classic game approach and great their handhelds are, they are a horrible company. Suing fans for making tribute games, threatening anyone with a rom site (not to pirate necessarily, but to preserve games Nintendo locks away or allows to disappear). I've no idea why they aren't doing backwards at all with Switch, but I think part is they want to resell some? I don't know, they are a very hard company to figure out; you think they won't survived the next gen because of decisions, yet only a handful of games can keep them relevant and alive lol! That's why I don't worry about Sony or XBox fading. If Nintendo can make it, they definitely won't be going anywhere. They'll just continue to make dumb decisions that sting for a bit, forgotten later.
@@blumiu2426 I actually think that Microsoft was tirelessly working on recovering from that early xbox one Fiasko and one way that fans always seem to appreciate is back compat. Sony got rid of it in their ps3 since it was too expensive for them but they see what Microsoft is doing and with the ps5 they are trying to also get some back compat going (to the ps4 at least). But I agree, games got a bit stale, too many remasters, remakes and sequels, even from soft following a Formula now. But I think there are still gems to be found like kingdom come deliverance with bold medieval realism, cd project red that never seems to want to publish a game on the same level as the last and omg I can't think of any others of the top of my head.... Let's hope that either this trend reverses at some point or that AAA will be largely defined by that but there will be a new AA market emerging for people like us who wanna see games that push the medium rather than regress.
@@blumiu2426 I think the portability of the switch is what gives them success nowadays. Having lived and worked in Japan now for almost 2 years, I can tell you that nintendo strikes me as a very very Japanese company. So rigid. Hard for original thought to do anything if it doesn't come from the top. Sony a bit less so, which is surprising, but the leg engineer is mark cerny, the legend, right? So that seems more like an international team creating the PlayStations while I would expect that the switch was made by a Japanese team. Don't know though, if you do, please tell!
Because nobody would want the Series S if they showed what it’s capable of and Digital Foundry is trying to help Xbox sell consoles not scare them away
@Steps 😭😭😭 THE TOURYST 😭😭 You mean that game my girlfriend is playing on her switch right now that runs 1080p60 on a SWITCH okay you won, I’ll see myself out.
Just buy a PS5 and build or buy your own PC, AMD is announcing their lineup of desktop cpu's that should beat anything in the consoles. Not to mention the graphics cards announcements from both Nvidia & AMD In other words you can't go wrong with the future of gaming!!! Unless you choose Xbox...
@@JJACK2024 Why are you even mentioning Sony now? I wasn't trying to make this a console war discussion. My intention was to give Digital Foundry honest and constructive feedback on their video, that's it.
lolol was thinking the same thing. Actually had no idea youtube allowed HDR uploads. Now i am spoiled. Next feature upgrade should be support for HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. At the moment, it appears that only HDR10 is supported. Still fantastic, even in its slightly compressed fashion.
Apologies guys, I seem to have triggered someone who doesn’t agree. I personally think they have which is why this generation I have chosen an XSX over a PS5, well, for now anyway.
I've been banging on to friends about the joys of HDR but just like VR unless you experience it for yourself you just can't understand how great it is.
Its borderline criminal how Arkham Knight still hasn't had any X or Pro support. But yeah some of these look very nice and as a big Panzer Dragoon fan its nice to see it there and hopefully the likes of Sega's classic games allow you to use it as well
This is absolutely brilliant. Almost worth getting the console for this feature alone. I'm going to live in geometry wars. And I can imagine this feature will only get better with time. Especially when the back compact team eventually has a lighter work load and can go into specific games to tweak. Future is HDR bright 😎
Auto HDR has come a long way. I use it on PC with the SDR game Final Fantasy 14 and the difference is incredible. It takes a little tweaking to go from too bright and gaudy to amazingly enhanced but once it's done it looks amazing permanently. At one point the snow capped hills of Coerthas were burning my eyeballs out it was so bright but it's easy to tune.
Not even kidding, the very first game I'm going to play on the Series X is the original Mass Effect. It's my "big test" to see if Microsoft weren't kidding around with all that "your games will look and run better" talk, both for the frame rate and to test out Auto HDR (assuming it isn't one of the titles where Microsoft has disabled it). Auto HDR is something that's interested me ever since it was announced. I think I just like the idea that they can retrofit HDR into games that were released before HDR was a thing. Side note, the UA-cam app on the Xbox One X doesn't support HDR. Huh...
Mass Effect Trilogy are possibly my favorite games ever made. Better story & characters than any Sci-Fi movie I have ever seen. Then again I'm not really a Sci-Fi fan.
Nice video, really looking forward to Panzer Dragoon Orta, that's gonna be my launch title LOL. I even stooped low enough to watch an ad just so I could see the HDR version of the video.
Look up some '8K' HDR videos to see how good your screen can get (after some basic calibration). They're not displayed in 8K of course but the quality is so good that there's no compression visible from normal viewing distance.
Hey DF, could you analyse the new gameplay for Scorn which was running on the series X? I'm happy to see something that isn't dirt 5 or gears 5 running on the series X in what I assume is dynamic 4k 60fps.
Man, I just launched Halo 5 on my series x and I thought it had been updated for series. Had to plug in my one x in the same tv and switch inputs to find out what was up. Eventually realized it was auto HDR. It made a HUGE difference in halo 5, the game looks fenomenal.
If you are having issues with games getting overblown you might need to go into the xbox system settings and do calibrate hdr. The auto hdr system uses that for the settings since the games don't have it built in.
I wouldn't say it's terrible but even dynamic res up to 1080p would have made a big difference. But b/c it's a dark game, it's not as noticeable as it could've been. The thing that always bothered me the most with Arkham Knight was the insane pop-in when you're gliding or driving around in the Batmobile. This wasn't as big an issue in the PS4 given the faster memory... with Series X having an SSD & GDDR6 memory, I'm pretty sure that pop-in will be largely eliminated. But yeah, it's a damn shame that we never got a 4k patch. It's a stunning game, even to this day & would've looked amazing at higher resolutions.
I’d gladly pay for a series x patch at this point, they seem reluctant to do anything further to it though for some reason. They can’t be fully satisfied with how it launched.
@@SabatSch95 I was just talking about the hardware itself, doing native 1080p in 2013 was way more feasible than doing native 4K today. The fact that XboxOne compromised better GPU/CPU to package Kinect with the console thus making most multiplatform titles up until 2017 look worse than on PS4 was dissapointing.
@@vrubayka Agreed, and in oft related point, AC Unity most likely was not patched up from 900p to 1080p on the PS4 like the previous AC, Black Flag, because MS was mad and paid Ubisoft off to NOT do Unity in 1080p on the PS4. Lol. I half joke because Unity was initially a mess for both consoles, and Ubisoft probably either did up it to 1080p on PS4 and had even more problems on that console or they didn't even bother because it was hard enough running it at 900p.
Weird, since Arkham Asylum and Arkham City sold millions of copies, despite having lower resolutions and less detail. (720p max) But hey... 900p with more detail isn't good enough anymore?
Best? Neither, just play the games you like on the console that supports them. The Switch outsold the Xbox despite releasing years later, it’s always been about the games and not the power but we live in a generation where numbers are thrown around by companies to entice sales. 1080p, 4K and now 8k. It reminds me of Gillette who just kept adding additional blades, it gets ridiculous. A 1080p BLU Ray still offers superb picture quality, do we need 8K. Will an additional 2TF on the series X matter?! Do most of us really see these tiny minute things that sites like DF talk about? It’s all gone crazy. I will stick with Sony because of my existing game library, Microsoft are finally off their ass and doing something, Nintendo will continue doing their thing. There’s no best, there’s just a great time to be a gamer.
@@Carfilliot I dont think switch vs xbox is either or. Clearly they are not competing again each other. Ps and xbox are on the other hand comparable. Switch outselling xbox is irrelevant.
@@billpogi23 Bought a Ps2 before Xbox, then bought a 360 before ps3, then bought, Ps4 before xbox one, so definitely not biased. Now this a difficult decision. I'm not mad about 3rd person single player games so from my perpective, honestly I cant find any reasons to get the PS5 first. With that in mind i might be missing something 🤔 I happy for you to underline the benefits of getting a PS5 first.
@@zolikat4458 Watching on Note 8, it does the same. Also, the whole image is washed out. You can tell because you can make out the black bars all the time. Unfortunately, this an issue with a lot of android phones and TVs when it comes to UA-cam HDR and Netflix HDR. It works fine on Amazon Prime HDR movies though. Hopefully, UA-cam and Netflix will fix the issue but like many already, I'm not holding my breathe.
Hey I just saw a video on UA-cam of the Harassment Your colleague a John has been facing on Twitter. I don’t use Twitter but just wanted to say I hope he is doing ok. I can understand people getting excited over new consoles but personal attacks on people just for having an informed opinion is never ok. Please look after your team , you guys do an exceptional job with all the comparisons you have done over the years and I love the retro content John often does. Ion Fury and 3D Realms was a highlight for me. I hope things settle down in any case and everyone enjoys their platform of choice as this year had been challenging enough as it is so let’s make the gaming space a happy zone for all concerned from this day forward.
I'm looking forward to playing through some of my backlog of xbox one and 360 games on the series X. I'll be playing through Blood and Wine and Hearts of Stone 60fps mode first and then Fallen Order after that.
Can we all, no matter what platform you have, just stop and commend the Xbox Team for doing this? This is AMAZING...simply amazing. As the life of the console goes on, they will tweak and adjust over the years. This BC team is NEVER satisfied with their work and will continue to give us great optimization. Job well done!!
@@spenny2cents thanks, yeh I was in best buy and they said the 65s were on sale and they were out of stock so ended up ordering the 55 instead, I wasn't entirely happy with it but yesterday I saw they got more so I went and just paid the difference and now got a 65 coming I a week or so....very happy!
Great video! This will be a very nice feature when replaying older games. Are you also going to do a video where you examine VRR/Freesync/LFC? Would be interesting to know how well 30FPS games look on Freesync+LFC...
I'm so glad that more people get to enjoy it now with the price of those Oleds going down, and the new consoles nearing high end pc's. I've had a Lg65C7 since early 2017, and it's been the best upgrade I have done in years. Yes a 980ti/1080ti could barely run all games on 4k ultra back then, but with some tweaking...a Good ultra 1440p HDR game destroys the console games. I love my Xbox one X and Ps4 pro, and they do look good on my OLED, but combining a OLED with HDR games is a better upgrade than going from an standard console to the "pro" variants. I'm lucky that I invested early on, and saved the money to buy high end gpu's. I remember booting BF5 on Dolby Vison with some friends at my house, we played for hours and hours, stopping to enjoy the visuals, and since then I really have a new found respect for game developers, the amount of hard work and detail to put into these worlds is insane, so stopping to appreciate that happens more and more with an Oled, because our tech at home is not holding their vision back anymore. When my new home is finished building, a 3080 with a HDMI2.1 Oled is the next step. (I owned a QLED too, had the Oled at the same time to compare side by side for two weeks, and just for my taste and daytime lit room I returned the Qled, the black levels are just so good, I don't need the extra brightness of Qled. My screen is professional calibrated, and looking at the sun ingame makes me want to put on shades just like real life would. And to see so much detail in a dark tunnel, with some ambient lights is just on another level compared to the bleeding effect of other panels, I own a 144hrz ultra wide for my competitive gaming). Long post, not my native language, so excuse the typos. Have a cookie because you made it this far!
Just started replaying the Gears Of War series. The 1st one remaster was good but i thought it would ruin 2 and 3 for me. Not so, once i discovered how to switch to HDR and enhanced FPS. They hold up amazingly with the upgrades.
At first, I just didn't get all the hoopla over HDR because games just looked dark more than anything but over time, some games came out with it and it wasn't so dark or bothersome and looked downright beautiful. Looking at u, Death Stranding ;) That game is truly a mesmerizing sight to behold.
@Cptn_Avery Game streaming, Game Pass, 120hz modes for some MP games, PC games, back compat, powerful console with cheaper option, multiple studio acquisitions. Looking good for this gen and I don't know about you, but I have a backlog of last gen games to finish. It's nice to know that they will look and possibly play better.
Really enjoyed this video Tom hope to see you on more directs, Love that you guys put Panzer Dragoon on here! Didn't even think about how it could help original X box titles and with a title I've wanted to play so long this makes the prospect of a series s quite appealing!
Great video thanks. Would it be possible to produce a video which shows a side by side comparison of back compat games with Auto HDR on vs. Auto HDR off?
Digital Foundry I love you but for the love of God INCLUDE COMPARISONS. I can't believe you guys didn't show any non-HDR footage so we could tell the difference. I have an HDR compatible OLED and I regularly use HDR but I've never really been sure of the difference. Really hoped this would clarify things more.
Microsoft’s efforts for game preservation and presenting it in the best possible way is amazing.
It's kind of overlooked how next gen you literally couldn't play a single 360 game on xbox one. Now you basically are keeping your entire library. Big upgrades to their process this time around
They better preserve their old games because they don't have new ones.
@@whereitsatent5362 ouch
@@LonghornsLegend Yeah Phil Spencer and his team has really turned Xbox around since he took over from Don Mattrick's brand suicide attempt lol.
@@whereitsatent5362 that would make sense if this were true
Still don't know why Rocksteady isn't releasing a 4K update for Arkham Knight. Would be awesome.
I’m playing it right now 4K raytracing mod pc
@@spenny2cents no one asked
@@Adnan-sk4jr ewww I can taste the salt
Maybe they don't think it's worth it. Arkham Knight is considered the worst game in the series by many people.
@@BasketCase-rr7tx I like the game but yeah it is weaker then the other games in series
This is literally the first time I'm seeing anything in hdr on my phone. I didn't even know it was possible for colours to look like this
You don't play on PC?
@@blumiu2426 PC doesn't really use HDR much. Not many HDR monitors out even now.
@@blumiu2426 - HDR implementation in games development has been much more forthcoming on consoles, rather than PC.
@@JoshuaKnab That's true, as I think the focus was elsewhere in improving graphics, but it should have been. It makes more sense than 4K, which is a gimmick.
@@christophercoey7804 As far as games including it that is true, but I've been using ReShade for graphic enhancements on top of what is in-game, which has an HDR feature. Some don't always work or show much of a difference depending, but there are options even if the game doesn't have it itself.
Geometry wars will look absolutely insane on OLED with all these tiny particles.
I'm on an LG OLED and it did! It looked insane. Batman not so much, not sure why he was so impressed. Some games looked over-baked.
@@RobGMun and you have a series x with auto hdr?
This is the first game I have tested on every HDTV I've ever bought since 2009. I always loved the way the colors pop against the black background. Super fun game too!
@@cactoidpinata it still looks good on xbox1
@@Lead_Foot this video is in hdr, you can tell if it's good from just watching it on a screen with proper hdr support.
This feature adds SO much value. The fact that it's already implemented this well before the console even launches suggests the integration will be solid. Hats off to Microsoft for improving older games.
You guys should do more videos like this to show off games HDR implementation.
If they did another video a side by side comparison would be better
@@AnImperfectSoul I'm not talking about the Auto-HDR feature. I'm talking about HDR in general. Specifically the dev authored HDR in games. It's always gonna be different depending on the game.
@@14supersonic premiere does support HDR that well. There's tonnes of tone mapping issues and also capturing HDR content is a bit of a hassle.
@@pegasusdrive12 They literally just released a video completely in HDR across several different games. It's definitely not as difficult as you claim. Besides, they might not even be using premiere.
@@AnImperfectSoul if it looks better no HDR I'll take it 100% 👍
Dead Space would be awesome to see
Currently playing through it with my friend who has never played it before in Co-op on Xbox one.
100% - DS 1 and 2 would be outstanding with auto HDR
Open world dead space...... Destiny?
Oooo dead space hdr!!! That would be awesome.
Precisely!!!!! 🎯
The one issue I have with HDR videos is that there are never any comparison points. I can tell that things look different, but I’d really like to see a side by side comparison
Guess the best you can do is have two phones next to each other. One with HDR, one without. Or a TV and phone, etc. etc.
I just upgraded to a series s and there is a huge difference with how videos look, if you have a 4K display then it will look amazing
17 years later and Panzer Dragoon Orta still looks amazing.
i still have not played that game
this is a xbox one x enhanced game, runs at native 4k.
Honestly PDO is the best looking back compatible enhanced OG Xbox game. It's gorgeous now on the Xbox One X. I miss those old SEGA dev teams! AM2, Hitmaker (AM3), Smilebit, Overworks, and Sonic Team to name a few.
@@msg360 You need to rectify this stance my friend. Still the best rail shooter. Quite frankly, they've remade the wrong one.
And I am still waiting for GunValkyrie.
In a future update, I hope they enable a user option to enable/disable Auto-HDR on a per-title basis w/o going in and out of system settings to adjust the master toggle.
* Comment edited for clarity.
Seems like thats kinda how it works. You enable it and the xbox does it on games that microsoft has specifically tuned it for. Otherwise it does nothing. But yeah it would make sense maybe to have a further control when you can toggle it off for a game that while microsoft has enabled it you dont like it and can shut it off. Im sure this is something that gets tweaked and refined over time.
@@devsfan1830 that’s what I meant (but I worded it poorly initially).
For example:
Hover over the icon for a game that doesn’t work as well w/Auto-HDR (like Dark Souls 2 as mentioned in the video), use the application-specific menu in the Xbox UI to enable/disable Auto-HDR in that specific application w/o disabling the master toggle for Auto-HDR in the system settings altogether.
* Comment edited for clarity.
@@SanchezS1998 Genius idea mate!
Right now that’s how it works. There are a few games that have hdr that look better without it. I have to go in and turn it off in the system settings every time.
With quick resume, going in and out shouldn't be a headache. You can access settings from in game but it will take you out. Id imagine its pretty painless on the x/s.
You really need to see this on a very good spec HDR TV/monitor. Visuals really pop. 1440p@60fps +Ray tracing and HDR is going to look beautiful.
@ lol even the 3080 and 3090 have problems with ray-tracing 4k 60 maybe 1080p ray -tracing 60 ... I just got my first 4k 144 hrz monitor , with HDR 600 , not the best HDR but at least i have that option
@ DMC5 is 60fps with Ray tracing just not at 4K
Isn't gears 5 4k 60 with Ray tracing?
@@msg360 he clearly said 1440p not 4k
@@Rooster832 no.
At this stage I don't even want to play my One X now and just wait for Series X. I just replayed Assassin's Creed 2, this would look amazing with auto HDR
I sold mine before its value drops. No point in keeping it around with SX's backwards compat.
Disagree, 1X still good for some
@@Mycarisloose series x does everything better
Should just sell that Xbox for good money for the upgrade
@@brancolt_ Price drop difference will be 20$ everyone knows next gen comes out...
Benefit of having hands on a product is making great in depth details and analysis
It's just a shame they don't do that
Where’s the ps5?
@@Darkstar18773 it just seems suspicious to me if you know your console can complete and stand up to the competition why wouldn't you want to show people that instead its all quiet
@@Darkstar18773 still only in Japan's youtuber hands I believe.
Bring told exactly what to say is even better
As a 3d artist, HDR is best when you have objects with reflections, and use HDR of real environments and lighting.
Would prefer to see an actual comparison of autohdr. Show us images of old verses new.
For true comparisons, the video would have to support HDR and we'd all have to watch it on a HDR display.
@@Scalene_2 I thought this video has HDR working on HDR displays?
@@DLBBALL Sorry, you're right it does support HDR when you press ⚙️. I watched it on my laptop which doesn't 🤦♂️.
Of course that would a lot of work in editing to try and get the tone mapping right when putting the SDR output into the HDR encode. I'm not sure you could ever guarantee it was an accurate comparison.
Well done. So happy Xbox send you a console to make all those content
Only a few days away until I get my hands on this console.
How come you’re getting one early?
Enjoy it ill have to wait till next summer,my one x has been doing a great job! On 24 hours some times i forget to turn it off and deactivated the sleep mode
Lucky. Most of us are still a few weeks away
I tried the hdr mode on my tv and looked like the colors were lowered i like the dynamic more i stead the colors look more vibrant
@@scissortongue5772 you didn’t get one?? Xbox is giving em away at this point
Watching on a HDR supported phone and it looks incredible.
Same. Wow.
I didn't even know my OnePlus 7pro had HDR until now... And it does look amazing
Watched this on my iPhone 11 Pro and with my SDR TV and it made my TV look so bad. I'll have to watch again later when it's darker as that's when it truly shines (Pioneer Kuro).
Watching on my iPhone XR. Agree, looks awesome and runs well.
Ryse son of Rome is what i want to play with hdr n Ray tracing
sad that the xbox one most graffical game came on release date on the original xbox one
I can not believe this game has not had a remaster. Or at least a optimized version. I'd love to play it again but its hard for me to play older games that haven't been "one x optimized". Since I've gotten so use to the high resolutions.
@@danielallen7384 Build a PC.
this would be amazing, however they need to ramp up the resolution, cuz 900p on a 4k screen isn't that good.
Awful game.
Yep HDR video, my TV said so. Good work DF
I'm watching this at 1080p60 HDR. This is absolutely beautiful. I see a lot of games I've played or seen before and they really do look so much better. Wish my tv had HDR support though. I'm watching this on my phone.
Fascinating stuff. Amazing work as usual.
I just have to say, I am impressed with Microsoft. The back compat features add so much value and even if the hdr implementation doesn't always work well, I just love the option and would definitely play will it a lot if I would buy the console! I don't know, apart from the PC overlap, the series x becomes a must buy for me later this generation (Playstation first) when I can afford it, because it just gives me the ability to play xbox games from all generations in probably the nicest or if there is a pc version, second nicest way. What incredible value. Sony take note.
I think it's been clear since last gen Sony isn't focused on backwards near as much. With more people asking for new IPs, less sequels and pushing the new hardware, it makes sense. You can still play backwards, but not the best service compared to others. I don't care because I find emulators work best, especially when you add programs like ReShade. Gaming has been playing it too safe with just sticking to what works and sequels, reboots and not creating new games. Preserving the past is vital, but stagnating at the same time nullifies it. Besides, XBox it's easier to do backwards. They don't have two countries developing games. Nintendo and Sony do, so take that into consideration when backwards comes into play. It's a massive library Microsoft doesn't have to deal with, though Nintendo is the worst at preserving their games.
@@blumiu2426 Speaking of Nintendo, it’s sad how we went from the Wii (full GameCube back compat), to the Wii U (full Wii back compat), and now Switch (only select re-releases...)
@@DLBBALL As much as Nintendo sparks that nostalgia of classic game approach and great their handhelds are, they are a horrible company. Suing fans for making tribute games, threatening anyone with a rom site (not to pirate necessarily, but to preserve games Nintendo locks away or allows to disappear).
I've no idea why they aren't doing backwards at all with Switch, but I think part is they want to resell some? I don't know, they are a very hard company to figure out; you think they won't survived the next gen because of decisions, yet only a handful of games can keep them relevant and alive lol!
That's why I don't worry about Sony or XBox fading. If Nintendo can make it, they definitely won't be going anywhere. They'll just continue to make dumb decisions that sting for a bit, forgotten later.
@@blumiu2426 I actually think that Microsoft was tirelessly working on recovering from that early xbox one Fiasko and one way that fans always seem to appreciate is back compat. Sony got rid of it in their ps3 since it was too expensive for them but they see what Microsoft is doing and with the ps5 they are trying to also get some back compat going (to the ps4 at least). But I agree, games got a bit stale, too many remasters, remakes and sequels, even from soft following a Formula now. But I think there are still gems to be found like kingdom come deliverance with bold medieval realism, cd project red that never seems to want to publish a game on the same level as the last and omg I can't think of any others of the top of my head.... Let's hope that either this trend reverses at some point or that AAA will be largely defined by that but there will be a new AA market emerging for people like us who wanna see games that push the medium rather than regress.
@@blumiu2426 I think the portability of the switch is what gives them success nowadays. Having lived and worked in Japan now for almost 2 years, I can tell you that nintendo strikes me as a very very Japanese company. So rigid. Hard for original thought to do anything if it doesn't come from the top. Sony a bit less so, which is surprising, but the leg engineer is mark cerny, the legend, right? So that seems more like an international team creating the PlayStations while I would expect that the switch was made by a Japanese team. Don't know though, if you do, please tell!
Exactly what I was wondering
Love it the video and the 3d effect on the intro sound with the digital foundry logo. Thanks for another amazing work, Thom!
Are you guys doing a hands on tech showcase for the Series S anytime soon?
yeah they should have series S by now, I don't know why they only do test for XSX
Because nobody would want the Series S if they showed what it’s capable of and Digital Foundry is trying to help Xbox sell consoles not scare them away
@Steps hypocrite much... says outlandish thing. Shows nothing.
@Steps 😭😭😭 THE TOURYST 😭😭
You mean that game my girlfriend is playing on her switch right now that runs 1080p60 on a SWITCH
okay you won, I’ll see myself out.
They will probably after launch or closer to launch. For now, they only have a Series X to test.
Although I’m getting a ps5, I have no shade toward Xbox, this is truly an amazing time for console gamers blue or green we all love games.
Just buy a XBOX SERIES X and PlayStation 5, like I'll do.
Just buy a PS5 and build or buy your own PC, AMD is announcing their lineup of desktop cpu's that should beat anything in the consoles. Not to mention the graphics cards announcements from both Nvidia & AMD
In other words you can't go wrong with the future of gaming!!! Unless you choose Xbox...
Xbox and PC are both microsoft.
Switching from PS to Xbox
@@zeongepyon4041 I can support Microsoft without supporting Xbox... they can absolutely be separated
I would have loved to see some direct comparisons between Auto HDR enabled vs. disabled.
You asking alot meanwhile Sony has shown you shit🤣😂✅
@@JJACK2024 nothing to do with sony
@@JJACK2024 Why are you even mentioning Sony now? I wasn't trying to make this a console war discussion. My intention was to give Digital Foundry honest and constructive feedback on their video, that's it.
Exactly what I was thinking Martin. A good video, but felt that some comparisons would have been nice.
EXACTLY! like how will I be able to see the difference between both?
I want digital foundry talking about scorn gameplay...
In due time
Im sure they will, but as they said a few weeks back there so busy its impossible for them to always jump on new (unnounced) drops.
I seen the gameplay there’s nothing to talk about it’s a walking simulator in HR Giger,s brain.
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 well y’all were complaining about Xbox not showing a next gen game. so at least we see the great visual the game has.
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 gameplay looked bland yes. But the graphics were clearly next gen.
I am sure they will tweak this but damn am I impressed with the tech. Way to go MS!
I wish more UA-cam videos are HDR now.
lolol was thinking the same thing. Actually had no idea youtube allowed HDR uploads. Now i am spoiled. Next feature upgrade should be support for HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. At the moment, it appears that only HDR10 is supported. Still fantastic, even in its slightly compressed fashion.
I rarely see a bad video from digital foundry if any. They do great work.
I can't wait to get my XSX. Love your channel, keep up the good work.
Microsoft have brought a lot to the table this time. Very clever stuff.
@@IlIIlIIlIIl yes..yes they have.
Not really
@@Xavier1415 except any games so far but hope there will be some soon with all the devs they have
Xbox !!!!!
Apologies guys, I seem to have triggered someone who doesn’t agree. I personally think they have which is why this generation I have chosen an XSX over a PS5, well, for now anyway.
I've been banging on to friends about the joys of HDR but just like VR unless you experience it for yourself you just can't understand how great it is.
I cannot wait for the Series X. I am not even really playing the One X at this point other then Rocket League.
I’m playing fortnite and gears 5 horde
I can’t bring myself to play anything new
I’m waiting on the x
So what’s going to change with getting the new hardware?
You can't wait for something that will give you literally nothing?
I hope there will be a 120FPS Mode Patch for RocketLeague
It’s crazy that you said this bc that’s all I do on my one x is play Rocket league
About time you guys did a HDR video!!
This is game-changing!
Its borderline criminal how Arkham Knight still hasn't had any X or Pro support. But yeah some of these look very nice and as a big Panzer Dragoon fan its nice to see it there and hopefully the likes of Sega's classic games allow you to use it as well
This is absolutely brilliant. Almost worth getting the console for this feature alone. I'm going to live in geometry wars. And I can imagine this feature will only get better with time. Especially when the back compact team eventually has a lighter work load and can go into specific games to tweak. Future is HDR bright 😎
$700 CAD for old hdr games, wtf.
@@John_Frost28 logic and reading comprehension are your friends. also imagine caring how someone else chooses to spend their leisure money...
Microsoft has some grade A salesman it’s not this guys fault for being so gullible
1M subs! Congratulations DF! 🥳
Can't wait for this beauty 😍
Auto HDR has come a long way. I use it on PC with the SDR game Final Fantasy 14 and the difference is incredible. It takes a little tweaking to go from too bright and gaudy to amazingly enhanced but once it's done it looks amazing permanently. At one point the snow capped hills of Coerthas were burning my eyeballs out it was so bright but it's easy to tune.
Yeah
Windows on default has it so high, but owners of high end oled monitors need to just set the maximum nits to 1000 and minimum to 0
Yes. Keep feeding me XSX news. The anticipation is killllllling me
Less than 3 weeks!
@@Charlesofoldremond66718 just moved the $$ to the checking for M$ to bleed me dry. LET IT BE SO
@@Ruffi0 I've got over 200 dollars worth of reward points saved up myself.
Not even kidding, the very first game I'm going to play on the Series X is the original Mass Effect. It's my "big test" to see if Microsoft weren't kidding around with all that "your games will look and run better" talk, both for the frame rate and to test out Auto HDR (assuming it isn't one of the titles where Microsoft has disabled it). Auto HDR is something that's interested me ever since it was announced. I think I just like the idea that they can retrofit HDR into games that were released before HDR was a thing.
Side note, the UA-cam app on the Xbox One X doesn't support HDR. Huh...
Mass Effect Trilogy are possibly my favorite games ever made. Better story & characters than any Sci-Fi movie I have ever seen. Then again I'm not really a Sci-Fi fan.
Oh great thanks, now I have a giant backlog AND I need to get a new TV.
Nice video, really looking forward to Panzer Dragoon Orta, that's gonna be my launch title LOL. I even stooped low enough to watch an ad just so I could see the HDR version of the video.
Arkham Knight peaks at 1080p? Wasn't the original Xbox One *locked* at 900p? Other than that, great analysis.
Awesome video. It looked amazing on my phone and has sold me on HDR for good now.
First HDR video I watch on UA-cam on an OLED and it definitely looks good !
Look up some '8K' HDR videos to see how good your screen can get (after some basic calibration). They're not displayed in 8K of course but the quality is so good that there's no compression visible from normal viewing distance.
Loving the HDR content. Keep 'Em coming.
Great video as always guys I was expecting to see some comparisons though hdr on and off. To see the benefits first hand
Always nice to get an opportunity to watch some HDR on my oled. Looking good, this game just killed my eyes though: 7:35
Hey DF, could you analyse the new gameplay for Scorn which was running on the series X? I'm happy to see something that isn't dirt 5 or gears 5 running on the series X in what I assume is dynamic 4k 60fps.
Where did you see this Scorn gameplay on Series X?
@@nonyabusiness6084 UA-cam?
@@nonyabusiness6084 Gamespot has it
Is it just me or is this the first HDR video you guys have seen on UA-cam? So cool
not just you, but this is far from being the first i did. digital foundry itself has a handful of them, some almost a year old.
I loved Geometry Wars so much
Nice video. I would have like a side by side comparison with Auto HDR on VS off. That extra step is what I expect from DF. I guess you've spoiled me
I’m curious about Arkahm City since that was patched in the Arkham City Update.
Man, I just launched Halo 5 on my series x and I thought it had been updated for series. Had to plug in my one x in the same tv and switch inputs to find out what was up. Eventually realized it was auto HDR. It made a HUGE difference in halo 5, the game looks fenomenal.
Just ordered my oled lg cx yesterday for my series x and ps5 cant wait 😁
Half of your visual improvement will come simply from your OLED, so be prepared for the shock and awe.
If you are having issues with games getting overblown you might need to go into the xbox system settings and do calibrate hdr. The auto hdr system uses that for the settings since the games don't have it built in.
5:24
It's peaking at 900p, not 1080p unfortunately. The original Xbox One was terrible. A One X patch would have been sweet.
I wouldn't say it's terrible but even dynamic res up to 1080p would have made a big difference. But b/c it's a dark game, it's not as noticeable as it could've been. The thing that always bothered me the most with Arkham Knight was the insane pop-in when you're gliding or driving around in the Batmobile. This wasn't as big an issue in the PS4 given the faster memory... with Series X having an SSD & GDDR6 memory, I'm pretty sure that pop-in will be largely eliminated. But yeah, it's a damn shame that we never got a 4k patch. It's a stunning game, even to this day & would've looked amazing at higher resolutions.
I’d gladly pay for a series x patch at this point, they seem reluctant to do anything further to it though for some reason. They can’t be fully satisfied with how it launched.
@@SabatSch95 I was just talking about the hardware itself, doing native 1080p in 2013 was way more feasible than doing native 4K today. The fact that XboxOne compromised better GPU/CPU to package Kinect with the console thus making most multiplatform titles up until 2017 look worse than on PS4 was dissapointing.
The game was actually patched some time later to run at something like 1620x1080. It’s covered in one of the last Arkham Knight videos.
@@vrubayka Agreed, and in oft related point, AC Unity most likely was not patched up from 900p to 1080p on the PS4 like the previous AC, Black Flag, because MS was mad and paid Ubisoft off to NOT do Unity in 1080p on the PS4. Lol. I half joke because Unity was initially a mess for both consoles, and Ubisoft probably either did up it to 1080p on PS4 and had even more problems on that console or they didn't even bother because it was hard enough running it at 900p.
THANK YOU for actually uploading this in HDR! A really cool video!
Phil Spencer is what MS needed. MS is killing it so far.
This is incredible. I love when old games take on a new life with modern tech. Superb
Stop teasing me with these Series X videos. I want mine NOW!!!! lol
I didn't even think that my phone supported HDR before trying to watch this on a laptop. Good video.
Wow. I'd never seen my phone go into HDR mode before. It burned out my eyes.
thanks for upload in HDR, THIS is what I was looking for.
Regardless of how you feel about this, having an option to toggle HDR on and off is always a good thing.
Fantastic work.
Man that dynamic 900p resolution and xbox one graphic settings. Now i remember why i stopped playing the batman game immediately.
Weird, since Arkham Asylum and Arkham City sold millions of copies, despite having lower resolutions and less detail. (720p max)
But hey... 900p with more detail isn't good enough anymore?
@@tcbvgames those were the xbox 360 days. Those graphics were mind blowing.
@@Nikownzyu Good art holds up, even today. SEE: The best looking pixel art from the 20th century cartridge era.
I almost got blind with the flashes in panzer dragoon, they’re extremely bright
Got to give Xbox props, I still think PS5 will outsell the Xbox but I not sure which console will now be the best regarless of sales.
Best? Neither, just play the games you like on the console that supports them. The Switch outsold the Xbox despite releasing years later, it’s always been about the games and not the power but we live in a generation where numbers are thrown around by companies to entice sales. 1080p, 4K and now 8k. It reminds me of Gillette who just kept adding additional blades, it gets ridiculous. A 1080p BLU Ray still offers superb picture quality, do we need 8K. Will an additional 2TF on the series X matter?! Do most of us really see these tiny minute things that sites like DF talk about? It’s all gone crazy. I will stick with Sony because of my existing game library, Microsoft are finally off their ass and doing something, Nintendo will continue doing their thing. There’s no best, there’s just a great time to be a gamer.
Xbox is dead 👎
@@Carfilliot still better hardware
@@Carfilliot I dont think switch vs xbox is either or. Clearly they are not competing again each other. Ps and xbox are on the other hand comparable. Switch outselling xbox is irrelevant.
@@billpogi23 Bought a Ps2 before Xbox, then bought a 360 before ps3, then bought, Ps4 before xbox one, so definitely not biased. Now this a difficult decision. I'm not mad about 3rd person single player games so from my perpective, honestly I cant find any reasons to get the PS5 first. With that in mind i might be missing something 🤔 I happy for you to underline the benefits of getting a PS5 first.
Great stuff 👍
Watching on my phone which shows hdr and its hurting my eyes.
If I put it on 1080p the video freezes, and on 720p it freezes for a few seconds every now and then.
Watching on Galaxy S8+
@@zolikat4458 Watching on Note 8, it does the same. Also, the whole image is washed out. You can tell because you can make out the black bars all the time.
Unfortunately, this an issue with a lot of android phones and TVs when it comes to UA-cam HDR and Netflix HDR. It works fine on Amazon Prime HDR movies though. Hopefully, UA-cam and Netflix will fix the issue but like many already, I'm not holding my breathe.
@@zolikat4458 it plays smoothly on OnePlus 7pro
@@rickyh527
It's the phones.
Note 8 and s8 were some of the first phones to use HDR. And they just can't handle the higher resolutions for it.
Works perfectly on mine
How many original Xbox games work on XSX? Are we getting close to 100%? If so that's insanely good.
@De'vante Warner gotta go fast!
man I really wish the XSX or XSS was easy to preorder.
I ordered another one off bestbuy yesterday
@@vcmember I tried but it kept erroring out when I tried to go to checkout. When the website started working again, they were all sold out :(
Hey I just saw a video on UA-cam of the Harassment Your colleague a John has been facing on Twitter. I don’t use Twitter but just wanted to say I hope he is doing ok. I can understand people getting excited over new consoles but personal attacks on people just for having an informed opinion is never ok.
Please look after your team , you guys do an exceptional job with all the comparisons you have done over the years and I love the retro content John often does. Ion Fury and 3D Realms was a highlight for me.
I hope things settle down in any case and everyone enjoys their platform of choice as this year had been challenging enough as it is so let’s make the gaming space a happy zone for all concerned from this day forward.
I'm looking forward to playing through some of my backlog of xbox one and 360 games on the series X. I'll be playing through Blood and Wine and Hearts of Stone 60fps mode first and then Fallen Order after that.
Of course that’s what you’re looking forward to because there’s no new games 🤣
@@spenny2cents go away little girl. rip
@@lko1117 yeah good point maybe I'll wait for the patch 👍
Can we all, no matter what platform you have, just stop and commend the Xbox Team for doing this? This is AMAZING...simply amazing. As the life of the console goes on, they will tweak and adjust over the years. This BC team is NEVER satisfied with their work and will continue to give us great optimization. Job well done!!
Great to see Dark Souls 2 get some attention again
This will be another fun feature to play with. I like having options like this and its good you can turn it on or off.
just order my new TV, cant wait to game on it
Which one ?
@@Zester0009 sony x900h 65
@@sdmalpas good choice
@@spenny2cents thanks, yeh I was in best buy and they said the 65s were on sale and they were out of stock so ended up ordering the 55 instead, I wasn't entirely happy with it but yesterday I saw they got more so I went and just paid the difference and now got a 65 coming I a week or so....very happy!
@@sdmalpas that’s awesome gotta love Best Buy! I’m planning on upgrading my 55in to a 65 oled while the sales are hot
Great video! This will be a very nice feature when replaying older games.
Are you also going to do a video where you examine VRR/Freesync/LFC? Would be interesting to know how well 30FPS games look on Freesync+LFC...
I would love to see Mirrors Edge Catalyst in HDR with full ray tracing , it's such a perfect game for it.
Man, why you gotta tease me like that. What a game 😩
I'm so glad that more people get to enjoy it now with the price of those Oleds going down, and the new consoles nearing high end pc's.
I've had a Lg65C7 since early 2017, and it's been the best upgrade I have done in years. Yes a 980ti/1080ti could barely run all games on 4k ultra back then, but with some tweaking...a Good ultra 1440p HDR game destroys the console games.
I love my Xbox one X and Ps4 pro, and they do look good on my OLED, but combining a OLED with HDR games is a better upgrade than going from an standard console to the "pro" variants. I'm lucky that I invested early on, and saved the money to buy high end gpu's.
I remember booting BF5 on Dolby Vison with some friends at my house, we played for hours and hours, stopping to enjoy the visuals, and since then I really have a new found respect for game developers, the amount of hard work and detail to put into these worlds is insane, so stopping to appreciate that happens more and more with an Oled, because our tech at home is not holding their vision back anymore. When my new home is finished building, a 3080 with a HDMI2.1 Oled is the next step.
(I owned a QLED too, had the Oled at the same time to compare side by side for two weeks, and just for my taste and daytime lit room I returned the Qled, the black levels are just so good, I don't need the extra brightness of Qled. My screen is professional calibrated, and looking at the sun ingame makes me want to put on shades just like real life would. And to see so much detail in a dark tunnel, with some ambient lights is just on another level compared to the bleeding effect of other panels, I own a 144hrz ultra wide for my competitive gaming).
Long post, not my native language, so excuse the typos. Have a cookie because you made it this far!
Where is my cookie?!
@@V8RacerGT Doom guy eating a cookie! I'd like to see that, here ya go!
What about Fable trilogy?
Just started replaying the Gears Of War series. The 1st one remaster was good but i thought it would ruin 2 and 3 for me. Not so, once i discovered how to switch to HDR and enhanced FPS. They hold up amazingly with the upgrades.
I really want to see SSX 3 with HDR.
And burnout 3.
Said no body ever. Not once.
At first, I just didn't get all the hoopla over HDR because games just looked dark more than anything but over time, some games came out with it and it wasn't so dark or bothersome and looked downright beautiful. Looking at u, Death Stranding ;) That game is truly a mesmerizing sight to behold.
Xbox are on point this generation. Can't wait for the tenth.
@Cptn_Avery 🥱🥱🥱🥱
@Cptn_Avery Game streaming, Game Pass, 120hz modes for some MP games, PC games, back compat, powerful console with cheaper option, multiple studio acquisitions. Looking good for this gen and I don't know about you, but I have a backlog of last gen games to finish. It's nice to know that they will look and possibly play better.
Really enjoyed this video Tom hope to see you on more directs, Love that you guys put Panzer Dragoon on here!
Didn't even think about how it could help original X box titles and with a title I've wanted to play so long this makes the prospect of a series s quite appealing!
In the past months Xbox is doing gods work for the industry in general.
So many groundbraking features and ideas.
Great video
I'd love to see Mass Effect with this!
Great video thanks. Would it be possible to produce a video which shows a side by side comparison of back compat games with Auto HDR on vs. Auto HDR off?
How About Left 4 Dead And Left For Dead 2 Thats What I Want To See
HDR certainly adds a lot in dark scenes and in scenes with bright lights. Looking forward to trying it out on back compat games. Great video Tom
Series X is the way to go this gen.
Digital Foundry I love you but for the love of God INCLUDE COMPARISONS. I can't believe you guys didn't show any non-HDR footage so we could tell the difference. I have an HDR compatible OLED and I regularly use HDR but I've never really been sure of the difference. Really hoped this would clarify things more.