I remember I would play ME on my 360 awhile ago infront of my dad. He would always say "Why do you like playing this game? All the man does is run all everywhere. Is it a running game? Why does he run?"
Thats how i felt too. I tired to play it twice but i couldnt make it 2-3h into game. Later i tried again and now i played the trilogy with full dlcs about 3 times.. And its the best game ever. Best characters,emotions and amazing story. The only comparable game is dragon age.
Hey DF. I was wondering if you guys might do a "farewell" video for the Xbox One/PS4 generation? To take a look back at the graphics and performance showcases, maybe get some devs in to talk about the quirks of each of the systems, anecdotes. etc. I would love to see it.
That's heavy duty work, for DF Retro. For that idea, Patreon away my friends. UA-cam algorithm doesn't favor to pay for this type of content, it wants frequent videos low in depth. That's how you get paid in YT, unfortunately. Quantity, not quality... Unfortunately.
@@souljastation5463 Bespoke means “tailored to a specific user” For example, the PS5’s custom SSD could be described as bespoke The closest synonym would be “custom”
Yeah same. I was so hyped about the game before it's release I bought and read Mass Effect Revelations by Drew Karpyshyn which acts as a prequel to the games.
Playing a game this good with updated textures and running at 4k 60 really is a treat. I hope they do a great job with ME4. Anyway I still think that a modded PC version of the original running on a powerful computer looks better than this.
@@Keepskatin Maybe youre just too young to understand many things. You obviously werent around when old games came out, they were amazing graphics for their times, and now they can be unplayable. But if you played an old game when it first arrived on the scene, you would have been impressed, and that impression would leave a lasting imprint of how your memory compares an old game you havent played in over a decade or two, to games you have gotten used to in the present. Actually revisiting an older title can be jarring as you have fond memories of a game that is now aged for better or worse
@@SL1CEND1CEN I played the ME trilogy as they came out and I didn't need to see comparison shots to know that the Legendary Edition looks much, much better than the original. Your entire comment is just agreeing with what Keepskatin said: "yep our memories are unreliable, oops our eyesight has been affected by our nostalgia goggles".
Not gonna lie, hearing it called New Eden and not Eden Prime was very odd. UPDATE: I was pointed out to me that New Eden is the Colony, and Eden Prime is the Planet. DUH!!!
@@rockapartie Some 360 games I can’t play on Backward Compatibility. Dead Space looks like shit soup.. so much shimmering. Sometimes I wish I had a monitor instead of a 43 inch TV so it wouldn’t be as noticeable 😂 but I’ll be honest I wasn’t really planning on playing through it.
That makes me wonder... why all the new games are not running at least 1440p 30fps on the XSS? halo infinite for exemple, will run at dynamic 1080p. WTF MICROSOFT
@@vischl A lot more going on in the newer games? Greater density of objects, higher geometry on objects, larger textures with more information attached too them, longer viewing distances, higher levels of physics, improved lighting and shadows, higher antistropic filtering, improved anti-aliasing, more and detailed decals, improved reflections, higher frames of animation, and added effects like motion blur or Depth of Field.
One thing worth noting that I don't think was mentioned in the video: Framerate mode on series s removes dynamic shadows for characters and a few other objects.
@Garrus Vakarian You don’t know what you are talking about. Throwing more VRAM is futile if they are not powerful enough to take full advantage of that level of VRAM which no consumer GPU even has. They have enough VRAM if anything more powerful GPU’s would be the only thing worth upgrading.
@@ZeroShaneBob eh on my Xbox it says it’s optimized for series S & X. Also when I categorize my games based on console type my Xbox list this game under Xbox series X & S games and not Xbox one or even Xbox one x enhanced games.
It's crazy that although the upgrades are amazing, the 360 version looks fairly good even in comparison. Mass effect 1 was so ahead of it's time. Impressive!
Crysis was released the same year and the original @4k looks just as good as Mass effect 1 remastered. Mass effect 2 manages to look generally better, but not even mass effect 3 looks as good as Crysis 2 on a technical level.
It's weird, I was really afraid of them in 2007 as my younger self. Today they are just some enemies running around. Game didn't really change, but I did.
@Ruxis256 The only "marketing deal" that seems to exist is Sony gimping games that get released on platforms besides their own. Are you trying to tell us that MS somehow got bioware to not include a 120fps mode for this game on PS5? lol
@@spenny2cents XSX is only for moron peasants that don't know that you can buy a PC for cheaper and get more than the XSX will ever be capable of, on top of every game Xbox will release.
Digital foundry sold out on this video. If this was about a PC version this would be a laughable remaster. They're talking that this game was improved but there is an extensive list of issues introduced in this remaster on PC. No fov, letterbox ultrawide in 50% of the game (dialogue and cutscenes), negative mouse acceleration that can't be turned off, Lens flare that crap all over the screen and can't be turned off... And more
@@23cookieface the pc video is the more important one because it's completely botched. People are going to buy this trash on PC based off a digital foundry console comparison... In for a nasty surprise.
@@DravicPL It's clearly a console comparison. If people buy the PC version based off this then that's on those people. Also the PC version isn't nearly as 'botched' as you're trying to make out, you drama queen.
I'm really impressed by this remaster playing this on PS5 @ 4k 60 FPS is a great experience. A Massive upgrade from the original 360 release while still completely nailing the tone and feel of that game. TBH I don't really miss the abundance of post processing effects they draped the screen with in 360
@@Peer165 Only Series X at this time, yet a confirned planned addition to PS5 as well. Your TV needs to support it. Unlike what the other user mentioned, it is not a gimmick/bullshit marketing. It is a very real feature that makes up for poor frame pacing, frame drops etc; smoothing out your gameplay, reducing screen tearing, jitters etc.
@@FROSTIXA VRR has a nasty issue of lifting gamma levels, resulting in a loss of contrast and everything looking washed out. Not worth it, in my opinion. The hit to visuals is too drastic.
@VinAr Run I'd say it's more about accessibility to. My local Walmart has rows of S's, but not a single X. The S is also EXTREMELY impressive for the price man. I just have to assume your trolling lol
I really miss how Mass Effect 1 made me feel. Nowadays people play it and don't understand, but it was actually the game that introduced the cinematic conversations that everyone uses now and nailed the whole space opera and exploration feel like none had done before or since. (As polished as ME2 felt, it was a step back in so many ways)
I got 360 just for mass effect 1 in 2007. I had played kotor 1&2 before and i read about bioware making their own dream scifi game and i had to get my hands on as soon as possible. Now in 2022, there is no game that hype me as much as mass effect did. Maybe witcheriino3... I really miss well written mass effect universe. It is just so cool until me3. Writers changed and the vision to have cod bros in on the scifi nerd stuff.
The remaster is truly impressive! Although, are others playing on Xbox One X also experiencing massive screen tearing - especially in busier areas like the Citadel?
12:30 is a problematic and stuttery location on many systems, has always been since the OG release of ME1 and I guess that is why it is featured in so many clips in this vid. It is an area that drops my fps from 100-144 to 60+ just when looking in that direction, no matter the resolution or other graphics settings on an RTX2070. Seems like a culling optimisation issue in UE3 because the same fps drop happens if you go to the other end of the Citadel and look toward this point, the same thing happens.
The nostalgia gives me the feels. This series has always been my favorite. Really really hope BioWare does this with some of their other games, namely Dragon Age, but also maybe a remake of Jade Empire or KOTOR 1 & 2.
Yeah the work done on ME 1 was one of my main reasons for getting this remaster. Not just the PC specific fixes like making it work "out of the box" with controllers (any X-input based ones I think), fixes to work perfectly on modern Windows, and most of all the gameplay tweaks they made to ME 1. I love Mass Effect but could never really get into ME 1 like I did ME 2 and 3. So far a few hours in this remaster and the tweaks they have made to ME 1 have worked for me and I'm enjoying it a lot.
@@spenny2cents why are you in all the comments hating ? We’re all gamers and you’re bringing hatred into it for what ? Stop being so fucking toxic. There’s a reason no one likes pc players anymore.
Just a heads-up HDR is bugged on Xbox series consoles. If you have auto HDR turned on it enables it for the launcher and the games for some reason, even though the compatibility options say it's disabled. If you disable auto HDR in your video settings HDR is disabled in the launcher, but works once you launch the game. The auto HDR version isn't horrible, but the real HDR version definitely looks nicer.
@@2Guys1ControllerShow I have Dolby Vision enabled on my SX, how do you check to see if the game is running using that though? I'm using an LG CX but when the game launches I only see it trigger HDR mode
Returnal has entered my most unique games list Such a great game and I've never expected it to be that great In artwork, creativity and gameplay from a studio that is not even mainstream Puts other popular stuidos AAA titles to shame
@@john45hhh yep. Got lucky and was able to pick up both consoles out the gate. Looking at how things are right now, I realize how lucky I got. People are still struggling to get either systems.
I have extensively tested it on the PS4 Pro-The differences between framerate vs. quality mode are pretty striking. I noticed on quality mode, the game displays shadows, less geometry visual noise on small objects like weapons on the back, and objects in far distances fully rendered make the game much more modern. The framerate makes the game shows its age a lot more obvious but the gameplay feels far more smooth and modern with 60fps.
Except for the janky reflections, this game is basically perfect. Immediately takes me back to 2007, maximum nostalgia. And VRR fixes both the drops below 120 on the Series X and screen tearing on Series S...
It does fix it but it is bad for 90% of people since barely anyone has a 4k VRR Monior, even less a VRR capable TV and even lesser a 4k VRR TV. So the best chances without sacrificing too much is a Series S and a 1080p VRR Monitor. It's a great option for us who have those options but Games on xBox seem to demand to heavily on it... which could be a big issue in a casual centered media if it comes to gain ground compared to PS5.
@@AcidDotDrop I bought a 4K 120hz VRR TV for £750. People act like they are some crazy expensive luxury, or that you must have a OLED for it to work. I remember when people said the same about 4K, these consoles are going to be around for awhile, in a few years everyone will have VRR if they own a Hdmi 2.1 display. HDMI 2.1 is a literal must to get the most out of the new consoles. Plus VRR has been on monitors for years. My wife plays on a 4K 60hz VRR monitor on her series s. Plus the latest game release are gaining ground over PS5 without VRR. RE village and mass effect run better on Xbox just to name the latest two
@@V1CT1MIZED Well, lets ignore that 750 pounds is supposedly no luxury while it's roughly 1 to 3 monthly rents, depending on where you live, is a bold and somewhat arrogant statement. It's not just the 750 but the 450 bucks for a systems, so most don't have the money to get an additional TV. Especially if they, most likely, bought a 4k tv in the last two years. So all the average consumer (>90% of the market) will see is, the PS5 will look better on most 4k screens and the xBox games who depend on VRR look worse. Yeah... get a 450 bucks Series X and a 750 bucks tv to play it without screen tearing (aka, worse image quality) or get a 350 bucks PS5 that will do the same and to the averrage consumer look even better... so 1200 bucks vs 350 bucks... oh damn, what will the consumer do. Pick the more popular system that looks great on the stuff you own or the more expensive one that needs even more expensive stuff to look slightly better... what a difficult decission. Yes VRR TV's will be important ...next generation. The only big casual consumer products that are currently using it are the Series Systems and again only enthusiasts will buy a new TV for that or have a 4k capable VRR Monitor at home. Perhaps next time, consider the financial possibilites of ALL consumers, not just those who have loads of money, live in weahlty countries or waste all their money on their hobby.
I'm seriously disappointed with Sony and the ps5. How can it perform so much worse than the Xbox?! I have a ps5 but this comparison was shocking to me! Not even a 120fps mode wtf
@@tamim4235 I’ve always owned both but I only get the PS for exclusives. I use the Xbox as my main because everything else is just better. More power, gamepass, better dashboard and interface, can play games streamed on my phone, VRR, FPS boost, and on and on. I get why Sony did well last system but this generation the Xbox wins hands down. And now they even match Sony exclusives and I don’t have to even buy the games as they launch day one on Xbox. Crazy.
@@Hazmatt36000 I've owned every ps console from one to five. I bought the Xbox 360 and loved it, it was the superior console compared to ps3 (in my opinion). Right now I feel like a fool, I payed 500 bucks for a significantly weaker console, and news broke that Bethesda's Starfield is going to be MS exclusive... And I bet the news elder Scrolls game will be exclusive too!!!! Sony should be ashamed, it seems like they are sleeping this whole time.
@@tamim4235 yeah it’s not so cut and dry this generation. Xbox has really done a fantastic job at offering more than the competition. Sure you need a Sony to play Sony games just like always but that’s where it begins and ends for reasons to play on one.
@@tamim4235 yup, sony is pulling an apple. They think they're so big and popular, thanks to the ps4 last gen, that they can sell anything to their "fan base". Meanwhile from an outside perspective it's easily visible that the ps5 is lagging behind and trying to copy Xbox strategies.
As above it does with the caveat @120fps, unfortunately I don't think Dolby Vision will ever be the standard as most companies prefer using HDR10, shame but hopefully I'm wrong.
I was really hoping Bioware would finally fix the constraint they had regarding Saren's character model. Originally, the goal was to have Saren start out as a normal Turian and then slowly morph over the course of the game into the organic/synthetic hybrid we initially see. The Xbox 360 with it's RAM capacity couldn't accommodate that plan so they ended up just sticking with the one model, so they say. I was thinking that with the current hardware, even PS4/Xbox One could have made that a reality but I guess not, and you have to witness that scene of Saren with obvious Geth enhancements on him and the Citadel Council is like "there's no way this guy is evil"
@@tamim4235 ps5 is a joke of a console, complete robbery, and they had the audacity to put "120" on the ps5 box so people who buy it think they can actually do 120 fps LOL. The X can do 120 fps at 1440p ps5 can barely do it a 1080p
@@stephanogikas7689 umm... Weren't you watching any of the DF's old vids since the new gen came out? Ps5 came close to xbox way too many times and it beat X several times that I can recall. P. S: I play on PC. So that you don't pull the 'fanboy' card.
In order to use 120 FPS mode on PS5 it needs to be a PS5 Native App otherwise PlayStation doesn't allow to use 120Hz in back-compat mode due to programming.
Idk men even with a native next gen version I see dificult on PS5 to hold 120 fps with this game..... could be the engine that somehow it doesn't compile well with PS5 OS or something....I mean probably by lowering the res to 1080p or 1440p with checkboard maybe it could achieve something similar to 120fps....I think the GPU isn't strong enough to get there or even the overclock is making it even hard to get there because of the overheating issues
Hey, loved the video but you missed out something very very important. Right now Planar reflections are ALSO kinda broken right now. They seem to run at 15fps and the experience is quite frankly nauseating. Was hoping this issue could get some attention from your video. This seems to be on all platforms
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't notice it in the Citadel and mention it. Much worse and more jarring than the 30fps reflections and makes no sense in a 60fps target game.
@@DarTuga94 Im playing on PC but this issue is present on consoles as well. look closely at the reflections in flux club windows or the floors in the wards. Noveria the bar also has the same issue on the floors. Its everywere. Not sure if they are using planar reflections or render to texture.
I have a VRR tv (Q80T) and a series X. 120 fps is pretty smooth, I don't notice the swings in framerate with VRR and it definitely feels more smooth than 60 fps, though 60 fps is more than smooth enough. the 1440p, I can see a slight softening though in my display. So its more preference. Maybe the resolution diff would seem better if I had a smaller screen (I have a 65" and only sit like 7' away). VRR is definitely nice to have, as then you don't notice frame drops like if your display was fixed (I use my tv as a pc monitor too, once you go VRR/Gsync/freesync, you do not go back to fixed framerate, no matter how "locked" a game seems you notice every little stutter without it).
You don't need 120fps for a third person shooter. 120fps are mostly for fps. So, the best choice is 4k and 60fps for thus game. Clarity and 60fps without the need for VRR or a lower resolution.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 If my OLED was newer and had 120hz and VRR, I would be playing 120hz for sure. The difference between 1440p and 4k to me just doesn't matter much while an ultra buttery smooth framerate is always appreciated.
I have the same TV and I can't perceive any drops at all either. Makes me wonder - if Devs can't get that perfectly fixed 120fps they should probably add a little text disclaimer "recommended for use with VRR displays" or something.
@@Buffinator1988 I wish games would add an unlocked frame rate mode for those of us with VRR. So you’d get “quality”, “performance” and “unlocked for VRR”. One can dream, perhaps when VRR TVs have been around for a few years and HDMI 2.1 is better adopted we will see such an option.
@@madpistol Hm, so it seems I'm not that old after all. College for me is just 'being young' (vs my current 'over 30 being old'), it's still a while until I regard those days as my childhood :-D.
I finished ME1 on the PS5 and the planetary exploration in the Mako has heavy particle and alpha effects that bog it down to consistent sub-60 FPS. I suggest if you want the best running version it's Series X, but in all honesty, I love these games so much that I don't care I get small hitches here and there on PS5.
Two corrections: 1: The first mission is called 'Prologue: Find the Beacon' which takes place on 'Eden Prime', not 'New Eden'. 2: Those are 'Render-to-Texture' reflections on water/flat surfaces, in combination with screen-space reflections. This is probably why it's capped at 30fps because they use it quite a lot throughout the remaster (at least in Mass Effect 1 from what I've played of that so far).
To your second point, it uses a combination of SSR and render to texture. If you stand in water and pan the camera down, you can see some objects fade out as they become obscured by the camera while other objects have no change.
I got lucky today and found it at Target. 6am on a sat. morning they put a few series X's on Target. On my tv, I can't seem to get 120fps plus HDR to work. If I disable HDR, the 120 mode works, and if I leave HDR on, it automatically runs in 4k/60 mode. Not sure if it's a limitation of my TV or limitation of the game in general.
Nice stuff DF. 4k 60fps on the Series X and PS5 is looking like the way too go and 1440p 60fps on Series S is the way too go also. The 120fps on the Series X is neat and 4k 30fps on the Series S is defo a nice option aswell, every Gamers Play style n Preference is pretty much here on all 3 of these systems.
is there a need to mention half a second? The game effectively doesnt even load at all, the screens are there as a relic of the old days because its a remaster.... but console war on i guess...
Load times are way better on the x over the ps5 why not cover that usually they compare load times. Gonna pick this on the x while my pc Is more powerful I want to sit in my comfortable chair and 4k 60fps is fine. Still wanna get re8 not sure if I will get ps5, sx, or pc version. I like collecting games so I hate buying digital so I’m glad the new consoles are finally powerful enough especially the cpu over last generation. And having a nvme ssd is another game changer. I’m just glad I was lucky enough to get sx and ps5 at launch. Still trying to get a 6800xt or 3080 but that’s almost impossible.
Still 30fps at 4K or 60fps on performance mode for PS5. This is not next gen, I mean PS5 is only upgrade version of PS4PRO with SSD and without 1440p resolution...
@@nickmotsarsky4382 Yes I do, and I spent a lot of money a last decade on PC hardware & software & gadgets... Never ever!!! Waiting for my RTX 3090 or RTX 3080Ti... Still is better experience and not so much expensive than PS5. Because I live in country where torrents live forever... 😉 😉 😉
Colossal work Thomas. Great video! I think that Series S resolution should be modified in a patch. 1440p/30fps for quality and 1080p/60fps for perfomance. Hopefully that would deliver no fps loss at each resolution and no tearing. Also, and I insist this should be on EVERY game out there on every console, there should be a fps unlock toggable option on every 30fps game, scratch that, on every game that has any fps lock, for future proofing and/or user choice. This way, newer consoles, or newer iterations of same console could improve perfomance. I still remember BioShock and Saints Row 2-3 on PS3-360 having that option and both now play at 60fps on Xbox Series X (all 360 games, not remasters). Anyway, ME Legendary Edition looks absolutely great, going to get it on SX. Thanks!
More DF vidoes I watch.... more glad I become that I got Series X... Especially no GPU in sight for foreseeable future!! ☺️👍 Best alternative for PCMR!! 💻🖱️
I'm a PC gamer who like MANY others has been trying to get a new GPU since the new GPU's from Nvidia and AMD were announced. Is the series X any easier to get? I thought the PS5 and Series X/S were just as hard to find. Thankfully my 1080 (non Ti) has been holding pretty well @ 1440p. It's starting to show its age with the most recent AAA releases but it's still more than playable. In the worst cases it's just a matter of dropping one or two settings from ultra to high. RE 8 for example ran great with everything maxed out except volumetric lighting dropped from ultra to high. It's amazing how screwed the GPU market is though. I recently saw my exact model 1080 (EVGA GTX 1080 SC) sell for a little over $600 on ebay. I'm almost positive when I bought mine when they were brand new it was $500. They are selling for more now than they did brand new lol.
XSX does seem to be taking the lead in performance. I have a ps5, though and still don't regret the decision. I think if I didn't have an Xbox One x it would be a different story but even with the slight performance gains over the PS5 I still don't get excited about it. There are just no exclusives worth buying for currently. I'll probably grab one eventually but just don't see the rush.
No, it's not. No point when a cheaper PC runs better and has endless more abilities and gets every xbox game that will come out. Xbox is dead, MS had Win10 gaming take them over. The only existing real consoles are PS, Nintendo, and Quest.
I really hope ME3 multiplayer makes a return via an update. ME3 had the strongest combat/gunplay of the entire trilogy and the 4-player PvE element complimented it immensely and kept me playing ME3 years post-launch
Before even watching the video I see no ponybois talking crap on the comments and No John linnenman on the video at all... i automatically assume Xbox utterly destroyed ps5 version
For the 120hz 50% segments, put playback speed to 2X if you have a 120hz display or device. Like the galaxy S20 or S21. UA-cam will play all 120 frames per second without dropping a frame!
Love seeing the Original and Legendary side by side. This remaster bundle is incredible. I always loved ME1 but it was always the hardest to go back to. Now that I'm playing the Legendary Edition I'm really enjoying the combat and visuals of ME1. I also love that they've added a photo mode! $60 for three games with all of these improvements and all 40 DLC (most of which cost $5-15 each in the original games) this Legendary Edition is awesome.
Did they change the way reflections are handled sometime after this review? They're definately not screenspace any more. I can look down at water and see everything reflected from the tops of the trees to the sky. It's not just static objects either, NPCs offscreen are also fully reflected.
I’m Commander Shepard, and I can only sprint for 10 yards.
It's that chonky armour, must weigh a tonne.
Hahahaha! You got it! Playing ME1 right now and laughing my arse off. A 3-4 seconds sprint and my boy goes: ugh ugh ugh!
He probably beats most of us then.
@@derptyderp5287 a Tonne?
I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions!
Well, you've got Alan Wake beat.
WE NEED A DEAD SPACE TRILOGY LIKE THIS
i prefer to pretend dead space 3 didn't happen
Gawd, that would be incredible!
Yes!
@@zaorst 3 is my favorite due to the co op but I would like to see them redone with vr
Definitely.
14 years later and I still don't know where I'm going on Noveria.
Worst map layout ever. Knocked that out before going for liara
Ps5 is so underwhelming, why tf doesn't it have a 120fps mode like Xbox?!
@@tamim4235 dunno bro, ask Sony and not me.
@@tamim4235 That's because of the way backward compatibility works on Xbox vs PS5.
@@tamim4235 xbox is more powerful that’s why
Not gonna lie, for a 2007 game and hardware, it still holds up amazingly for its era. Crazy this was 14 years ago!
Dude, we all know it looks horrible 😑
And dated!
@@fernando_alfradique why not just say YOU think looks horrible and dated?
@@JochoPorocho not gonna lie? Why would you lie about that ?
@@JochoPorocho I think he’s crazy
I remember I would play ME on my 360 awhile ago infront of my dad. He would always say "Why do you like playing this game? All the man does is run all everywhere. Is it a running game? Why does he run?"
Why are You running?
As someone who just spent a couple hours running around the Citadel, your dad's got a point.
Thats how i felt too. I tired to play it twice but i couldnt make it 2-3h into game. Later i tried again and now i played the trilogy with full dlcs about 3 times.. And its the best game ever. Best characters,emotions and amazing story. The only comparable game is dragon age.
I've ran around Noveria for a while because I still don't have a feckin clue where I am.
Your dad was kinda wrong, Shepard could barely run.
Hey DF. I was wondering if you guys might do a "farewell" video for the Xbox One/PS4 generation? To take a look back at the graphics and performance showcases, maybe get some devs in to talk about the quirks of each of the systems, anecdotes. etc. I would love to see it.
A farewell video would be premature, maybe in another 2 years when they both finally commit to the new consoles.
@@TomsGotPowers I'd take a farewell vid to the Xbox 360/PS3 generation if they wanted to leave it a bit longer
That's heavy duty work, for DF Retro. For that idea, Patreon away my friends. UA-cam algorithm doesn't favor to pay for this type of content, it wants frequent videos low in depth. That's how you get paid in YT, unfortunately. Quantity, not quality... Unfortunately.
This is a great idea.
they are still in production and being sold so a little early
the soundtrack will remain timeless and one of the best / most atmospheric si-fi soundtracks ever
It'll get the full orchestra treatment one day
It's amazing, but I feel like Nier/Nier Automata might have it beat.
I'd say THE BEST
Leaving earth … the best
@@zues287 Nier automata/Replicant, Hollow Knight and Hotline:miami are my favourite
I’m here to see if “bespoke” is mentioned.
That tends to be John’s word
"curious"
If John Linneman’s not reviewing, the framerate’s never “buttery smooth”
I still don't get what it means. Could "ad hoc" be an adequate synonym?
@@souljastation5463 Bespoke means “tailored to a specific user”
For example, the PS5’s custom SSD could be described as bespoke
The closest synonym would be “custom”
I went from playing this back on a Xbox 360 at 720p , to a 3080 at 4k. They did an incredible job. Thank you for keeping the original audio !
Yeah same. I was so hyped about the game before it's release I bought and read Mass Effect Revelations by Drew Karpyshyn which acts as a prequel to the games.
*sub 720p
It’s not 3080. Even pc can’t do 3080p at 60fps
@@vitorfernandes651 right... it can do more than 60fps at 4k.. I have an RTX 3080 😂🤣
Playing a game this good with updated textures and running at 4k 60 really is a treat. I hope they do a great job with ME4. Anyway I still think that a modded PC version of the original running on a powerful computer looks better than this.
And again that moment when your memory looks like the remaster xD
That how the remasters of Modern Warfare 1 & 2 were for me.
You guys have bad eyesight and non reliable memory 🧠
@@Keepskatin Maybe youre just too young to understand many things. You obviously werent around when old games came out, they were amazing graphics for their times, and now they can be unplayable. But if you played an old game when it first arrived on the scene, you would have been impressed, and that impression would leave a lasting imprint of how your memory compares an old game you havent played in over a decade or two, to games you have gotten used to in the present. Actually revisiting an older title can be jarring as you have fond memories of a game that is now aged for better or worse
Exactly how i feel, i remember playing mass effect 1 and 2 and everything would look like the remaster to me
@@SL1CEND1CEN I played the ME trilogy as they came out and I didn't need to see comparison shots to know that the Legendary Edition looks much, much better than the original. Your entire comment is just agreeing with what Keepskatin said: "yep our memories are unreliable, oops our eyesight has been affected by our nostalgia goggles".
Not gonna lie, hearing it called New Eden and not Eden Prime was very odd.
UPDATE: I was pointed out to me that New Eden is the Colony, and Eden Prime is the Planet. DUH!!!
I think he means it like, New "Eden" not "New Eden".
@@dannonyogurt98 that's my theory too, but it still sounded odd lol
I think he just messed up the name of it.
The way he pronounces 'Remaster' irked me more.
@@carlharrison6476 Romaster
I can't believe how good the 360 version still looks to this day.
I don’t know… I remember when ME2 was current and I played it on PC. I then went and loaded up the ME2 demo on PS3, and it looked awful in comparison…
Forza 4 still looks amazing on 360.
@@rockapartie Some 360 games I can’t play on Backward Compatibility. Dead Space looks like shit soup.. so much shimmering. Sometimes I wish I had a monitor instead of a 43 inch TV so it wouldn’t be as noticeable 😂 but I’ll be honest I wasn’t really planning on playing through it.
Nah its just the remaster is shite
It was mind blowing technology at the time. I had never seen anything like it.
People playing these games for the 1st time.
I envy you
I only ever played 1, didn't have time to get into 2 or 3. In a few months, I'll have a load of spare time...
I will!
@@Varmint260 same
I was never interested in these games when they came out I just picked up the legendary edition and I'll play them for the first time today ☺️
I've never played any and will be picking this up and going in totally blind. I have no.idea what to expect
4K @30FPS on the Series S and 60FPS at 1440p.... Not bad at all!
That makes me wonder... why all the new games are not running at least 1440p 30fps on the XSS? halo infinite for exemple, will run at dynamic 1080p. WTF MICROSOFT
@@vischl A lot more going on in the newer games? Greater density of objects, higher geometry on objects, larger textures with more information attached too them, longer viewing distances, higher levels of physics, improved lighting and shadows, higher antistropic filtering, improved anti-aliasing, more and detailed decals, improved reflections, higher frames of animation, and added effects like motion blur or Depth of Field.
@@AFourEyedGeek assassin’s creed valhala runs 1440p 30fps but guardians of the galaxy don’t. Explain me that.
@@vischl It can only mean all developers of new games have suddenly become crap right?
@@vischl bruh ps4 pro runs this game at 4k30 1440p60 halo is much more demanding game
ME1 Shepard still runs around like he crapped his pants though.
Lmaooo
I was wondering if DF would be doing this video. And here we are!
Same haha
I looked for this video like 8 hours ago because I was curious.
I was also. Wasn’t sure if they would.
Yea but they didn't do one for the nier replicant remaster. Really wish they would have cause that game was excellent.
They didn’t finish the video without pc, ps4, and Xbox one though.
I hadn't played these games...just got the legendary edition and Mass Effect One is truly awesome so far! 4K looks great.
Playing the series 10 years ago was something else.. incredible games that hold up so well
It's so awesome to see new people get into the series. The story and lore are really great. Hope you enjoy your time with the rest of the series.
You’re in for such a treat!
Same here! Never played the original but I am enjoying. It already feels better than MEA story vise.
Tip: don’t forget to romance someone, I forgot to on my ME1 playthrough
It's a shame this wasn't called "Calibrated" edition.
At least they added "Calibrations" to the options menu. I love that little Easter egg.
such a wasted opportunity xD
It's not fool.
This remaster should be a re remaster for the ps3 and Xbox 360 version looks awful
@@tookanarrowtotheknee4894 Hell no. It looks awesome on my PS4 pro, 43 inch 4k tv with an aftermarket 21gbps hdmi 2.0 monster cable.
One thing worth noting that I don't think was mentioned in the video:
Framerate mode on series s removes dynamic shadows for characters and a few other objects.
:,)
Booted this up on my SeriesX and was blown away. 😲
@Garrus Vakarian You don’t know what you are talking about. Throwing more VRAM is futile if they are not powerful enough to take full advantage of that level of VRAM which no consumer GPU even has. They have enough VRAM if anything more powerful GPU’s would be the only thing worth upgrading.
@Garrus Vakarian you don’t know how technology works do you?
@Garrus Vakarian I mean, this is essentially a PS4 game though lol
@@ZeroShaneBob eh on my Xbox it says it’s optimized for series S & X. Also when I categorize my games based on console type my Xbox list this game under Xbox series X & S games and not Xbox one or even Xbox one x enhanced games.
@Garrus Vakarian More VRAM? lol you're so clueless.
I’m doing my best to resist the urge to buy this since my backlog is so big. This video just made it harder.
If you wait a couple months itll be cheaper.
@@stevenewsom3269 I'm waiting a couple years, like Bob Bob said, that back log
You buy now forget your backlog we all have now
Not worth 60 bucks.
@@frankdiaz6955 yeah, I can wait anyway
It's crazy that although the upgrades are amazing, the 360 version looks fairly good even in comparison. Mass effect 1 was so ahead of it's time. Impressive!
Yeah the graphics were really great for the time.
That framerate tho...
@@TruTrae slide show mode
Crysis was released the same year and the original @4k looks just as good as Mass effect 1 remastered. Mass effect 2 manages to look generally better, but not even mass effect 3 looks as good as Crysis 2 on a technical level.
apply a couple of visual mods and it looks pretty close to the remaster
@@TruTrae The Hot Labs on Noveria.
man, that music is still epic..
i remember those husks freaking me out so bad in 2007 :P
They still do.
It's weird, I was really afraid of them in 2007 as my younger self. Today they are just some enemies running around. Game didn't really change, but I did.
Hats off to XSX for giving us 120fps 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
where did u see 120fps? more like 80-90fps lol literally useless mode
@@CocoChris13 cry some more pls
@@CocoChris13 bruh at least there’s the option for 120 where the hell is it on PlayStation? Oh yeah ps5 is running the same stats as ps4 pro and xss.
@@CocoChris13 They literally said it dips below 120 rarely on SX, and ps5 can't even support 120 fps, lmao
@Ruxis256 The only "marketing deal" that seems to exist is Sony gimping games that get released on platforms besides their own.
Are you trying to tell us that MS somehow got bioware to not include a 120fps mode for this game on PS5? lol
Does anyone finds the galaxy map theme song soothing and relaxing ? I’m so happy they kept every music and sound effect intact.
Series X looking really, really good here.
I believe that.
Got both X Is killing P right now. We shall see! E3 coming soon.
@@nealbroussard8115 delusional can’t wait to check back here and update my comment after Xbox fails another e3
@@spenny2cents XSX is only for moron peasants that don't know that you can buy a PC for cheaper and get more than the XSX will ever be capable of, on top of every game Xbox will release.
@@evolicious I bought an xbox just because I hate the snobby sony fans
Seeing Normandy remastered in 4K at 60 FPS gives me goosebumps. Oh man that ship is so awesome....
As you can see, the Mass Effect Legendary Edition fixes the problem of every scene not containing Massive amounts of lens flare everywhere.
J.J Abrams and J.J Binks both were consulted to get the remakestered look just right.
Digital foundry sold out on this video. If this was about a PC version this would be a laughable remaster. They're talking that this game was improved but there is an extensive list of issues introduced in this remaster on PC. No fov, letterbox ultrawide in 50% of the game (dialogue and cutscenes), negative mouse acceleration that can't be turned off, Lens flare that crap all over the screen and can't be turned off... And more
@@DravicPL I mean it's a 'console' comparison breakdown. They will do a PC breakdown video soon I assure you that Alex battaglia has a list ready.
@@23cookieface the pc video is the more important one because it's completely botched.
People are going to buy this trash on PC based off a digital foundry console comparison... In for a nasty surprise.
@@DravicPL It's clearly a console comparison. If people buy the PC version based off this then that's on those people.
Also the PC version isn't nearly as 'botched' as you're trying to make out, you drama queen.
I'm really impressed by this remaster playing this on PS5 @ 4k 60 FPS is a great experience. A Massive upgrade from the original 360 release while still completely nailing the tone and feel of that game. TBH I don't really miss the abundance of post processing effects they draped the screen with in 360
I just started ME1 LE on PS5 this week and it's been amazing. It also looks fucking *_GREAT_* in HDR on an OLED display.
Agreed. The colours and resolution really pop in this remaster it looks very nice@@erikhendrickson59
Wish Bethesda would give Fallout 3 some love like this trilogy.
FO3 and New Vegas in one package remastered like ME1 is for XSX. Sign me TF up!
Lol only for game pass
Yes! And mod support
@@pleasuretokill that would be a dream come true😢
I would love a new vegas remaster for series x
If it wasn't for this video, I wouldn't even know game drops below 120fps. VRR really makes a difference.
Does the PS5 and Series X support this? And does my TV have to have this feature?
@@Peer165 no it's marketing bullshit just so you'll buy a 1500$+ tv or monitor
@@Peer165 Only Series X at this time, yet a confirned planned addition to PS5 as well. Your TV needs to support it. Unlike what the other user mentioned, it is not a gimmick/bullshit marketing. It is a very real feature that makes up for poor frame pacing, frame drops etc; smoothing out your gameplay, reducing screen tearing, jitters etc.
@@FROSTIXA VRR has a nasty issue of lifting gamma levels, resulting in a loss of contrast and everything looking washed out. Not worth it, in my opinion. The hit to visuals is too drastic.
@@8butsideways295 I was thinking A90J 83" inch.
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite video on Digital Foundry
Considering I never expected my Series S to play in 4K, even at 30fps, I’m quite proud of my little console lol.
Why not just save up for the x.
Ew
@VinAr Run I have the Series S and it is most definitely nit a waste of money. Go troll somewhere else.
@VinAr Run well we can't all be rich, smug morons now can we?
@VinAr Run I'd say it's more about accessibility to. My local Walmart has rows of S's, but not a single X. The S is also EXTREMELY impressive for the price man. I just have to assume your trolling lol
I really miss how Mass Effect 1 made me feel. Nowadays people play it and don't understand, but it was actually the game that introduced the cinematic conversations that everyone uses now and nailed the whole space opera and exploration feel like none had done before or since. (As polished as ME2 felt, it was a step back in so many ways)
That didn't start with Mass Effect. KOTOR had them in 2003!
I got 360 just for mass effect 1 in 2007. I had played kotor 1&2 before and i read about bioware making their own dream scifi game and i had to get my hands on as soon as possible. Now in 2022, there is no game that hype me as much as mass effect did. Maybe witcheriino3... I really miss well written mass effect universe. It is just so cool until me3. Writers changed and the vision to have cod bros in on the scifi nerd stuff.
You heard of Halo 2? They nailed the cutscene - go watch them all and your mind will be blown all over again.
The remaster is truly impressive! Although, are others playing on Xbox One X also experiencing massive screen tearing - especially in busier areas like the Citadel?
Man, that music is really bringing me back.. my God
Didn't play in the video but spectre induction is one of the best pieces of music in the series
@@LN.2233 And Uncharted Worlds. Goosebumps every time.
Vigil.
12:30 is a problematic and stuttery location on many systems, has always been since the OG release of ME1 and I guess that is why it is featured in so many clips in this vid. It is an area that drops my fps from 100-144 to 60+ just when looking in that direction, no matter the resolution or other graphics settings on an RTX2070. Seems like a culling optimisation issue in UE3 because the same fps drop happens if you go to the other end of the Citadel and look toward this point, the same thing happens.
The nostalgia gives me the feels. This series has always been my favorite. Really really hope BioWare does this with some of their other games, namely Dragon Age, but also maybe a remake of Jade Empire or KOTOR 1 & 2.
You can always play Jade Empire and KOTOR on Xbox One X or Series X at 16x their original resolution!
@@jsward96 Or play them on Steam like a normal person.
Kotor one is being remade by aspyr
Kotor 2 was made by Obsidian.
@@growlanser5600 I know that. I was saying bioware did a great job with kotor 1. The new remake is being made by aspyr
X Gon give it to you
Holy crap 120 FPS !!!!
Lmao 240fps on my pc no need for an Xbox
1440p 60hz for series s with VRR is amazing.
The NPC eyeballs are.... interesting.
Literally every other developer mastered them 20 years ago.
👁️👄👁️
6:52 Ashley is a little more ree-ree this time around.
They need to be calibrated.
My brand!
Series s actually handled itself pretty well here
This is amazing. ME1 is really hard to get into on PC. Mods, fixes, control issues, antiquated gameplay. This is a great reason to give it another go.
Yeah the work done on ME 1 was one of my main reasons for getting this remaster. Not just the PC specific fixes like making it work "out of the box" with controllers (any X-input based ones I think), fixes to work perfectly on modern Windows, and most of all the gameplay tweaks they made to ME 1. I love Mass Effect but could never really get into ME 1 like I did ME 2 and 3. So far a few hours in this remaster and the tweaks they have made to ME 1 have worked for me and I'm enjoying it a lot.
Oh yes been waiting for this thank you DF. It’s running well on my series X and looks great. 👍
It’s playing well and looking great but you still needed to watch DF video? Cringe
@@spenny2cents why are you in all the comments hating ? We’re all gamers and you’re bringing hatred into it for what ? Stop being so fucking toxic. There’s a reason no one likes pc players anymore.
Just a heads-up HDR is bugged on Xbox series consoles. If you have auto HDR turned on it enables it for the launcher and the games for some reason, even though the compatibility options say it's disabled. If you disable auto HDR in your video settings HDR is disabled in the launcher, but works once you launch the game. The auto HDR version isn't horrible, but the real HDR version definitely looks nicer.
So turn off auto HDR?
Thats because this game is a remasterd with hdr 4k 60fps ,auto hdr will only be enable in older games like a skyrim for example .
Ah I just re read it I understand now I'll try out the in game HDR rather than the auto HDR.
I'm using Dolby Vision with the Xbox Series X. Auto hdr is active but DV overrides it.
@@2Guys1ControllerShow I have Dolby Vision enabled on my SX, how do you check to see if the game is running using that though? I'm using an LG CX but when the game launches I only see it trigger HDR mode
Hey guys, how about a video about old demos comparing with new games, what was achieved or not. UE 3 & 4 demos, Unity demos etc...
Great video as usual. Went Series X on this release and picked up Returnal for PS5. No regrets.
Best of both worlds :)
Returnal is the worst game of the year lmao
Returnal has entered my most unique games list
Such a great game and I've never expected it to be that great In artwork, creativity and gameplay from a studio that is not even mainstream
Puts other popular stuidos AAA titles to shame
@@john45hhh yep. Got lucky and was able to pick up both consoles out the gate. Looking at how things are right now, I realize how lucky I got. People are still struggling to get either systems.
@@danny.4506 Nope.
I have extensively tested it on the PS4 Pro-The differences between framerate vs. quality mode are pretty striking. I noticed on quality mode, the game displays shadows, less geometry visual noise on small objects like weapons on the back, and objects in far distances fully rendered make the game much more modern. The framerate makes the game shows its age a lot more obvious but the gameplay feels far more smooth and modern with 60fps.
Except for the janky reflections, this game is basically perfect. Immediately takes me back to 2007, maximum nostalgia.
And VRR fixes both the drops below 120 on the Series X and screen tearing on Series S...
It does fix it but it is bad for 90% of people since barely anyone has a 4k VRR Monior, even less a VRR capable TV and even lesser a 4k VRR TV.
So the best chances without sacrificing too much is a Series S and a 1080p VRR Monitor.
It's a great option for us who have those options but Games on xBox seem to demand to heavily on it... which could be a big issue in a casual centered media if it comes to gain ground compared to PS5.
@@AcidDotDrop Yea. I don't have series x yet but I've noticed Xbox requires a great TV with at least VRR and 120 fps to get the most out of it.
@@AcidDotDrop I bought a 4K 120hz VRR TV for £750. People act like they are some crazy expensive luxury, or that you must have a OLED for it to work. I remember when people said the same about 4K, these consoles are going to be around for awhile, in a few years everyone will have VRR if they own a Hdmi 2.1 display. HDMI 2.1 is a literal must to get the most out of the new consoles. Plus VRR has been on monitors for years. My wife plays on a 4K 60hz VRR monitor on her series s. Plus the latest game release are gaining ground over PS5 without VRR. RE village and mass effect run better on Xbox just to name the latest two
@@V1CT1MIZED Well, lets ignore that 750 pounds is supposedly no luxury while it's roughly 1 to 3 monthly rents, depending on where you live, is a bold and somewhat arrogant statement. It's not just the 750 but the 450 bucks for a systems, so most don't have the money to get an additional TV. Especially if they, most likely, bought a 4k tv in the last two years. So all the average consumer (>90% of the market) will see is, the PS5 will look better on most 4k screens and the xBox games who depend on VRR look worse. Yeah... get a 450 bucks Series X and a 750 bucks tv to play it without screen tearing (aka, worse image quality) or get a 350 bucks PS5 that will do the same and to the averrage consumer look even better... so 1200 bucks vs 350 bucks... oh damn, what will the consumer do. Pick the more popular system that looks great on the stuff you own or the more expensive one that needs even more expensive stuff to look slightly better... what a difficult decission.
Yes VRR TV's will be important ...next generation. The only big casual consumer products that are currently using it are the Series Systems and again only enthusiasts will buy a new TV for that or have a 4k capable VRR Monitor at home.
Perhaps next time, consider the financial possibilites of ALL consumers, not just those who have loads of money, live in weahlty countries or waste all their money on their hobby.
What about the crack cocaine eyes?
Been playing all weekend on Series X. Freaking beautiful. Crisp would be the best word to describe it.
I'm seriously disappointed with Sony and the ps5. How can it perform so much worse than the Xbox?! I have a ps5 but this comparison was shocking to me! Not even a 120fps mode wtf
@@tamim4235 I’ve always owned both but I only get the PS for exclusives. I use the Xbox as my main because everything else is just better. More power, gamepass, better dashboard and interface, can play games streamed on my phone, VRR, FPS boost, and on and on. I get why Sony did well last system but this generation the Xbox wins hands down. And now they even match Sony exclusives and I don’t have to even buy the games as they launch day one on Xbox. Crazy.
@@Hazmatt36000 I've owned every ps console from one to five. I bought the Xbox 360 and loved it, it was the superior console compared to ps3 (in my opinion). Right now I feel like a fool, I payed 500 bucks for a significantly weaker console, and news broke that Bethesda's Starfield is going to be MS exclusive... And I bet the news elder Scrolls game will be exclusive too!!!! Sony should be ashamed, it seems like they are sleeping this whole time.
@@tamim4235 yeah it’s not so cut and dry this generation. Xbox has really done a fantastic job at offering more than the competition. Sure you need a Sony to play Sony games just like always but that’s where it begins and ends for reasons to play on one.
@@tamim4235 yup, sony is pulling an apple. They think they're so big and popular, thanks to the ps4 last gen, that they can sell anything to their "fan base". Meanwhile from an outside perspective it's easily visible that the ps5 is lagging behind and trying to copy Xbox strategies.
I dont love 1...i love 2 and enjoyef 3.
But man...this trilogy was something so special to me. I cried like a baby when i finished it
THIS is how you do a remaster, Rockstar.
I heard this game supports Dolby Vision on the Series consoles.
It does!
Unfortunately not at 120fps yet on the Xbox Series X. A patch is incoming from LG and Microsoft to fix that issue!
As above it does with the caveat @120fps, unfortunately I don't think Dolby Vision will ever be the standard as most companies prefer using HDR10, shame but hopefully I'm wrong.
@@greengrugach1984 it's slowly gaining. I hope it pretty much becomes a standard. It'll look much better on SX then
What's amazing is that all the graphical updates just highlight the astonishing ambition of the original vision.
No. No they don't. They clutter the streen with JJ ABRAMS level of insanity. Can't turn them off either. Lens flare lens flare lens flare editions.
I was really hoping Bioware would finally fix the constraint they had regarding Saren's character model. Originally, the goal was to have Saren start out as a normal Turian and then slowly morph over the course of the game into the organic/synthetic hybrid we initially see. The Xbox 360 with it's RAM capacity couldn't accommodate that plan so they ended up just sticking with the one model, so they say. I was thinking that with the current hardware, even PS4/Xbox One could have made that a reality but I guess not, and you have to witness that scene of Saren with obvious Geth enhancements on him and the Citadel Council is like "there's no way this guy is evil"
I prefer saren straight up being sketchy and modified and nihilus and the council being in denial tbh. It's pretty fitting.
Look up the saren stages mod
This is my favourite DF guy, the one still covering game launches. Are there any hopes for Nier Replicant?
I’m pretty sure they covered Nier Replicant
Absolutely hooked once again and great to see it running so well on the X.
Ps5 is so underwhelming, why tf doesn't it have a 120fps mode like Xbox?!
@@tamim4235 ps5 is a joke of a console, complete robbery, and they had the audacity to put "120" on the ps5 box so people who buy it think they can actually do 120 fps LOL. The X can do 120 fps at 1440p ps5 can barely do it a 1080p
@@stephanogikas7689 PS5 could do it just fine, stop fanboying.
@@sageninja7260 Nah sony IS trash this generation, trying to pull an apple and prove they can sell anything to their install base.
@@stephanogikas7689 umm... Weren't you watching any of the DF's old vids since the new gen came out? Ps5 came close to xbox way too many times and it beat X several times that I can recall.
P. S: I play on PC. So that you don't pull the 'fanboy' card.
In order to use 120 FPS mode on PS5 it needs to be a PS5 Native App otherwise PlayStation doesn't allow to use 120Hz in back-compat mode due to programming.
Idk men even with a native next gen version I see dificult on PS5 to hold 120 fps with this game..... could be the engine that somehow it doesn't compile well with PS5 OS or something....I mean probably by lowering the res to 1080p or 1440p with checkboard maybe it could achieve something similar to 120fps....I think the GPU isn't strong enough to get there or even the overclock is making it even hard to get there because of the overheating issues
It wasn’t even that bad in the original! Art direction and smart techniques go a long way.
Hey, loved the video but you missed out something very very important. Right now Planar reflections are ALSO kinda broken right now. They seem to run at 15fps and the experience is quite frankly nauseating. Was hoping this issue could get some attention from your video. This seems to be on all platforms
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't notice it in the Citadel and mention it. Much worse and more jarring than the 30fps reflections and makes no sense in a 60fps target game.
You're referring to console gameplay right? I'm playing on PC and I might be wrong but I don't remember having a problem of that sort.
@@DarTuga94 Im playing on PC but this issue is present on consoles as well. look closely at the reflections in flux club windows or the floors in the wards. Noveria the bar also has the same issue on the floors. Its everywere. Not sure if they are using planar reflections or render to texture.
I have a VRR tv (Q80T) and a series X. 120 fps is pretty smooth, I don't notice the swings in framerate with VRR and it definitely feels more smooth than 60 fps, though 60 fps is more than smooth enough. the 1440p, I can see a slight softening though in my display. So its more preference. Maybe the resolution diff would seem better if I had a smaller screen (I have a 65" and only sit like 7' away). VRR is definitely nice to have, as then you don't notice frame drops like if your display was fixed (I use my tv as a pc monitor too, once you go VRR/Gsync/freesync, you do not go back to fixed framerate, no matter how "locked" a game seems you notice every little stutter without it).
You don't need 120fps for a third person shooter. 120fps are mostly for fps.
So, the best choice is 4k and 60fps for thus game. Clarity and 60fps without the need for VRR or a lower resolution.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 I mean or you can just let him choose what he wants to play with it’s not like the option for 4k 60fps isn’t there anyways
@@kostasbousbouras2654 If my OLED was newer and had 120hz and VRR, I would be playing 120hz for sure. The difference between 1440p and 4k to me just doesn't matter much while an ultra buttery smooth framerate is always appreciated.
I have the same TV and I can't perceive any drops at all either.
Makes me wonder - if Devs can't get that perfectly fixed 120fps they should probably add a little text disclaimer "recommended for use with VRR displays" or something.
@@Buffinator1988 I wish games would add an unlocked frame rate mode for those of us with VRR. So you’d get “quality”, “performance” and “unlocked for VRR”. One can dream, perhaps when VRR TVs have been around for a few years and HDMI 2.1 is better adopted we will see such an option.
I’m Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite video on UA-cam lol.
Downloading on PC now. I need those childhood feels again.
Childhood? These games are rated 18+.
@@CyberKiller Well, I was in college, soooooo....
W
@@madpistol Hm, so it seems I'm not that old after all. College for me is just 'being young' (vs my current 'over 30 being old'), it's still a while until I regard those days as my childhood :-D.
Get ready for the stuttering and crashes. Big issue but none of these paid reviewers are mentioning it. Surprise surprise.
“I can smell the hate, why don’t you just start fighting already?” Yea, my favorite quote..
So Series X runs better than PS5 and also has a 120fps mode? Picking it up for Series X then.
Was there ever any doubt lol
It's back compat so of course it runs better on SX
This is the video I wanted from DF this week. Thank you, gentlemen.
I finished ME1 on the PS5 and the planetary exploration in the Mako has heavy particle and alpha effects that bog it down to consistent sub-60 FPS. I suggest if you want the best running version it's Series X, but in all honesty, I love these games so much that I don't care I get small hitches here and there on PS5.
He says near the beginning of the video that loading times are similar (a few seconds) across all consoles.
I'm Commander Shepherd, and this is my favorite comparison video on the Citadel
The lighting sucks, it's like they didn't give a fuck about any artistic direction the original games had and just did whatever the fuck
Great video, Tom! I imagine how hard it was to cover three games on three different platforms, props to you
This game is on PS Plus for December 🔥
Playing on XSX haven't seen any frame rate drops. Awesome experience.
Shepard is ready to bang through the galaxy again!
ok
Two corrections:
1: The first mission is called 'Prologue: Find the Beacon' which takes place on 'Eden Prime', not 'New Eden'.
2: Those are 'Render-to-Texture' reflections on water/flat surfaces, in combination with screen-space reflections. This is probably why it's capped at 30fps because they use it quite a lot throughout the remaster (at least in Mass Effect 1 from what I've played of that so far).
To your second point, it uses a combination of SSR and render to texture. If you stand in water and pan the camera down, you can see some objects fade out as they become obscured by the camera while other objects have no change.
@@stopthisatonce You're right. I've updated my original comment.
No clue when I'll be able to get a series X but once I do I'll be glad I'm planning on it vs the other options. 1440/120 sounds great
It's excellent, I'm really enjoying it but you do need VRR in the 120 mode.
Don't pay more for less.
My tv can do 1440p and 120 and has Freesync.
I got lucky today and found it at Target. 6am on a sat. morning they put a few series X's on Target. On my tv, I can't seem to get 120fps plus HDR to work. If I disable HDR, the 120 mode works, and if I leave HDR on, it automatically runs in 4k/60 mode. Not sure if it's a limitation of my TV or limitation of the game in general.
The upgrade on the original is actually really nice.
vrr for the win
Nice stuff DF.
4k 60fps on the Series X and PS5 is looking like the way too go and 1440p 60fps on Series S is the way too go also.
The 120fps on the Series X is neat and 4k 30fps on the Series S is defo a nice option aswell, every Gamers Play style n Preference is pretty much here on all 3 of these systems.
I’m going 4K 120 on my lg c1....
@@juniors3275 nice a very good choice man 👌.
Hmmm.... there was no mention of loading times.... that must mean the PS5 is loading the game slower than the Xbox Series X.
That right
Data from elanalistadebits:
Main menu loading screens:
PS5 14.63
XS 3.90
In game loading screen:
PS5 3.43
XSX 1.33
@@brewski535 facts
is there a need to mention half a second? The game effectively doesnt even load at all, the screens are there as a relic of the old days because its a remaster.... but console war on i guess...
@@Zado19
There you go!
Data from elanalistadebits:
Main menu loading screens:
PS5 15.0
XS 4.0
In game loading screen:
PS5 3.0
XSX 1.0
Wasn't expecting this on a Sunday. lol
Why did you laugh out loud? Is there a joke I'm missing?
@T3CHZ0MBi3 I'm with him, nothing more cringey than people lolling at nothing.
@@fandangobrandango7864 you don’t know if he didn’t lol
@@KesMonkey Lol.
@@KesMonkey lol
Xsx>Ps5
Load times are way better on the x over the ps5 why not cover that usually they compare load times. Gonna pick this on the x while my pc
Is more powerful I want to sit in my comfortable chair and 4k 60fps is fine. Still wanna get re8 not sure if I will get ps5, sx, or pc version. I like collecting games so I hate buying digital so I’m glad the new consoles are finally powerful enough especially the cpu over last generation. And having a nvme ssd is another game changer. I’m just glad I was lucky enough to get sx and ps5 at launch. Still trying to get a 6800xt or 3080 but that’s almost impossible.
Still 30fps at 4K or 60fps on performance mode for PS5. This is not next gen, I mean PS5 is only upgrade version of PS4PRO with SSD and without 1440p resolution...
The game runs at 60fps on the PS5 regardless of the mode. Did you even pay attention to the video?
@@nickmotsarsky4382 Yes I do, and I spent a lot of money a last decade on PC hardware & software & gadgets... Never ever!!! Waiting for my RTX 3090 or RTX 3080Ti... Still is better experience and not so much expensive than PS5. Because I live in country where torrents live forever... 😉 😉 😉
Colossal work Thomas. Great video!
I think that Series S resolution should be modified in a patch. 1440p/30fps for quality and 1080p/60fps for perfomance. Hopefully that would deliver no fps loss at each resolution and no tearing.
Also, and I insist this should be on EVERY game out there on every console, there should be a fps unlock toggable option on every 30fps game, scratch that, on every game that has any fps lock, for future proofing and/or user choice. This way, newer consoles, or newer iterations of same console could improve perfomance. I still remember BioShock and Saints Row 2-3 on PS3-360 having that option and both now play at 60fps on Xbox Series X (all 360 games, not remasters).
Anyway, ME Legendary Edition looks absolutely great, going to get it on SX. Thanks!
More DF vidoes I watch.... more glad I become that I got Series X... Especially no GPU in sight for foreseeable future!! ☺️👍 Best alternative for PCMR!! 💻🖱️
MLB the show is the only one the series X didn't perform better than in terms of the PlayStation 5 this year.
@@jayevans20 MLB probably forced one of the devs to port it overnight at gunpoint. With that, the port is pretty good considering.
I'm a PC gamer who like MANY others has been trying to get a new GPU since the new GPU's from Nvidia and AMD were announced. Is the series X any easier to get? I thought the PS5 and Series X/S were just as hard to find. Thankfully my 1080 (non Ti) has been holding pretty well @ 1440p. It's starting to show its age with the most recent AAA releases but it's still more than playable. In the worst cases it's just a matter of dropping one or two settings from ultra to high. RE 8 for example ran great with everything maxed out except volumetric lighting dropped from ultra to high.
It's amazing how screwed the GPU market is though. I recently saw my exact model 1080 (EVGA GTX 1080 SC) sell for a little over $600 on ebay. I'm almost positive when I bought mine when they were brand new it was $500. They are selling for more now than they did brand new lol.
XSX does seem to be taking the lead in performance. I have a ps5, though and still don't regret the decision. I think if I didn't have an Xbox One x it would be a different story but even with the slight performance gains over the PS5 I still don't get excited about it. There are just no exclusives worth buying for currently. I'll probably grab one eventually but just don't see the rush.
@@sean8102 both consoles sell out immediately.
I have a Series X and it's been great
Replaying these feels like coming home.
Series x is a must have.
It's a must have on PC with an FOV mod. FOV is disgusting in stock gameplay.
No, it's not. No point when a cheaper PC runs better and has endless more abilities and gets every xbox game that will come out. Xbox is dead, MS had Win10 gaming take them over.
The only existing real consoles are PS, Nintendo, and Quest.
I really hope ME3 multiplayer makes a return via an update.
ME3 had the strongest combat/gunplay of the entire trilogy and the 4-player PvE element complimented it immensely and kept me playing ME3 years post-launch
The instant loading times are the best improvement, you got to be a speed reader for the tips lol
i figure that you arent showing ps5 loading cause its about 10 seconds longer than series x ?
What's the point? We all know the ssd in the ps5 is at least twice as fast. But that doesn't mean every developer will use it regardless
Data from elanalistadebits:
Main menu loading screens:
PS5 14.63
XS 3.90
In game loading screen:
PS5 3.43
XSX 1.33
@@LILLO84 🤣ps5 is trash🤣sony trying to be apple🤣
Series X version for me!
Before even watching the video I see no ponybois talking crap on the comments and No John linnenman on the video at all... i automatically assume Xbox utterly destroyed ps5 version
It would be great to see an analysis on Base PS4, PS4 Pro, Xbox One, Xbox One S and Xbox One X. I know it's a lot, but it's optional.
Xbox was always the place to play ME. Another win for X.
Another L for consoles. PC version is better.
@@TheRedRaven_ console gamers don't like PC thx
For the 120hz 50% segments, put playback speed to 2X if you have a 120hz display or device. Like the galaxy S20 or S21. UA-cam will play all 120 frames per second without dropping a frame!
I have the s20 ultra but can't see 120fps mode
@@pizzagateisreal under display options. Set motion rate to smooth
UA-cam only show vídeos at 60 fps
@@Sda1011 it shows videos at the display refresh rate. It's called the UA-cam 120fps half rate video trick
Love seeing the Original and Legendary side by side. This remaster bundle is incredible. I always loved ME1 but it was always the hardest to go back to. Now that I'm playing the Legendary Edition I'm really enjoying the combat and visuals of ME1. I also love that they've added a photo mode! $60 for three games with all of these improvements and all 40 DLC (most of which cost $5-15 each in the original games) this Legendary Edition is awesome.
Another great comparison done by digital foundry!
Did they change the way reflections are handled sometime after this review? They're definately not screenspace any more. I can look down at water and see everything reflected from the tops of the trees to the sky. It's not just static objects either, NPCs offscreen are also fully reflected.
The fluctuations doesn't matter if you got vrr on your TV its unnoticeable
Ahhhhh snap, I’ve been waiting on this one baby!!!
Best game ever!
I never played them so guess I'll be infor a treat