Schecter Nick Johnston OR Fender Player Series (MEXICAN)

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  • @andydavid9
    @andydavid9  Рік тому +5

    Hey guys, everything I talk about in this video is related to the aesthetics and the differences in feel. This is not a tone comparison because I’ve changed pickups in the NJ.
    I figured where most people are buying guitars online now and not able to try before you buy, it’s handy to have a video talking about what they’re like to play. I hope that helps!
    P.s: the bits where I play both guitars are purely for entertainment as I felt it made the video better.

  • @deadrituals
    @deadrituals 2 роки тому +5

    I really love the finish on the schecter guitars I've seen, looks "worn in" in a good way instead of a plastic-y gloss

  • @jak.masters
    @jak.masters 2 роки тому +2

    Representing the chunky hand community

    • @bluwng
      @bluwng 6 місяців тому +1

      He is 100% correct but two tones allows you to some creative things. The better solution is for manufacturers to keep the one volume and two tones but move the volume pot location.

  • @jordansage9655
    @jordansage9655 2 роки тому +3

    Really great pts on Jumbo frets, volume pot placement… easy to forget about that stuff when comparing online. But it really makes a huge difference in comfort/feel, which certainly makes a difference in how we play!!!

    • @bluwng
      @bluwng Рік тому

      I think ESP is the only other company where their Strats have Jumbo frets.

  • @ShaneStoneOfficial
    @ShaneStoneOfficial Рік тому

    I love how lightly you have to touch the strings with jumbo frets… just can’t see myself playing anything else at this point. But I’ve always wanted a fender with jumbos

  • @sacasticus
    @sacasticus 10 місяців тому +1

    Just purchased a Nick Johnston Schecter. One thing I did notice was that the string tree was loose, is this by design? I tried to tighten it but the screw seems to be tight!

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  10 місяців тому

      hey man, the string tree shouldn't be loose

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  10 місяців тому

      Maybe see if the shop will exchange it for you, or get a tech to look at it. Bit annoying though as its a new guitar

    • @sacasticus
      @sacasticus 10 місяців тому

      @@andydavid9 I should have clarified that it’s a used guitar!

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  10 місяців тому

      @@sacasticus ahhh gotcha! The good thing is that it shouldn’t affect the playability of the guitar. Does it hold its tune well?

  • @rollinas1
    @rollinas1 2 роки тому +6

    My Schecter HSS just arrived, I have Fender Strat 70s reissue made in Japan, pretty rare guitar, costs about the same and plays like butter too but for me that volume pot was so annoying. I find that if I play standing up, it's less of an issue but I'm mostly noodling at home. As far as I'm concerned, there are always many reasons to buy another guitar. The end. If you want Schecter, buy one, they are all great guitars for their price.

  • @cookiemonster2949
    @cookiemonster2949 Рік тому +15

    Schecter offers quality with a relatively low price, but sounds a little harsh and modern. Fender has the strat soul. ❤

    • @Rajonty
      @Rajonty 11 місяців тому +1

      Are there any moderately priced guitars that capture that strat magic?

    • @DabsDad
      @DabsDad 5 місяців тому

      @@Rajonty Sire Larry Carlton S7 style is about $250 less than the Schecter and sounds more strat like imo. They also make an even cheaper S3 version at $399 too.

    • @noire1991
      @noire1991 День тому

      I mean it sounds poetic until you realize there is no magic. Nick Johnston helped designed those pickups they are supposed to be hot because he plays with a lot of gain. I have played both and I would happily replace the pickups in the Nick Johnston just because the quality of the guitar is way better than the fender

  • @JoshuaShorts169
    @JoshuaShorts169 2 роки тому +2

    Great song choice for comparisons.
    Something Like Olivia’s gold.

  • @tub7843
    @tub7843 11 місяців тому

    wondering what kind of weight on the schecter? over 8lbs , under 8lbs ? thanks!

  • @jeffh4510
    @jeffh4510 2 роки тому +11

    I've been a Fender man for nearly 50years but I think I prefer the Schecter

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому +1

      The Schecter is a really good guitar!

  • @erike5066
    @erike5066 Місяць тому

    I have the Schecter with SSS pickups in atomic orange. I think it’s awesome. I never had a problem with the volume knob. I guess I got lucky.

  • @rakotomirea1291
    @rakotomirea1291 2 роки тому +10

    schecter is very good but also fender is so cool

  • @gobodega5226
    @gobodega5226 2 роки тому +4

    Hi Andy, The Schecter tuners are a bit stiff. But the strings are easy to change and they stay in tune very well. I installed a new volume pot and CS Fat 60 pickups 😃👌The Neck Profile of the NJ is great.

  • @sbno119
    @sbno119 Рік тому +1

    thank you for your video I'm interested in these two models. and try to compare Thank you video helped me a lot. And I totally agree with Fender's volume issues that tend to get hit. and make the sound softer My friends talk about this problem

  • @checkitout611
    @checkitout611 Рік тому

    The Schecter is just such a great guitar! I did change out the PUPs to what I like though .... Duncan Custom in bridge, Duckbucker in middle and Little 59 with coil splitting in the neck. It's just such an awesome playing guitar. Love them!

  • @rockybalboa2526
    @rockybalboa2526 Рік тому +2

    Hey Andy. I just found your video and watched it. I wanted to correct you on some things. First the fret wire. Shecter is using TALLER frets ( maybe 6105 size ) those are tall and thin. Fender is using LOWER frets. Im not sure of their number but they are called MEDIUM JUMBO FRETS, And that mean, they are low and wider. The taller thinner fret makes it easier to play because it raised the string height and makes the feeling of pressing the string more personal. you can get a better feel on the strings and that actually does help to ring out the notes better. sort of like the scalloped effect. where as Yngwie Malmsteen says, YOU CAN REALLY GRAB THE STRING BY THE BALLS AND MAKE THOSE NOTES SING.. : / The other corrections i wanted to make for you are your comments on the thinner string gauge on the fender. This really is not an issue. Whenever you buy a new guitar? you will always make it your own. you string it with the strings you have been using on other guitars obviously! You change tuners, if you want to. You change pick ups if you want to. You can change the color of the pick guard, you can even take out that first volume knob right under the bridge pick up, and leave just a volume and tone under there! ITS ALL UP TO YOU! IN FACT, THIS IS WHY EVERYONE WHO IS A SERIOUS GUITARIST? SHOULD BE GOING TO WARMOTH.COM TO BUILD THEIR OWN CUSTOM GUITAR FOR A LITTLE LESS THAN ANY GOOD STORE BOUGHT OR NAME BRAND GUITARS COST! AND YOU CAN CHOOSE ALL YOUR WOODS, ROUTING, CONTROLS, NECK PROFILE, NECK RADIUS, BRIDGE ORIENTATION ( WHICH BRIDGE SET UP YOU WANT TO HAVE ) ETC..... NICK JOHNSTON BASICALLY PUT TOGETHER A GUITAR HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH AND THEN SCHECTER MADE THEM A SIGNATURE SERIES TO TRY TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY OFF EVERYONE WHO WAS THINKING " OH, I WILL GET A NICK JOHNSTON GUITAR AND SOUND LIKE NICK" : / IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY! BUT OK.. I UNDERSTAND.. STILL, THE FENDER HAS A MAPLE NECK WHICH I PERSONALLY PREFER, FOR LOOK AND SOUND. I ALSO PERSONALLY PREFER THE FENDER HEADSTOCK LOOK TOO.. I DONT LIKE THE SCHECTER LOOK. IT IS A FENDER STRAT WITH DIFFERENT VARIATIONS. THE BOTTOMLINE THOUGH IS PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY WANT OR AT LEAST WHAT THEY DONT WANT? AND THEN GO TO WARMOTH.COM AND BUILD THEIR OWN CUSTOM SIGNATURE GUITAR OR BASS!!! : )

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      I assume you work for Warmoth? Haha

    • @rockybalboa2526
      @rockybalboa2526 Рік тому

      @@andydavid9 : / ha ha.. NO I DO NOT! BUT I AM SERIOUS GUITARIST AND MUSICIAN MYSELF AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THE BS THAT IS GOING ON WITH INSTRUMENTS AND THE UNREASONABLE PRICES AND SCAMS BEING COMMITTED BY ALL THE COMPANIES. WARMOTH IS THE ANSWER!

  • @terrorgaming.6391
    @terrorgaming.6391 2 роки тому +1

    Why would you change the stock pickup?

  • @ahmed_elnaggar
    @ahmed_elnaggar 2 роки тому +2

    may I ask why you swapped the PUs on the Schecter? is it taste thing or the stock Pups on the Schecter were not good at all?

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому

      Purely because I wanted to try out something different! The stock pups were nice

  • @stephengaren2219
    @stephengaren2219 2 роки тому +1

    The fretboard radius is what makes the NJ feel wider. The NJ has a 14" radius, whereas the Player Strat is 9.5". I have 5 Strats and the Atomic Frost NJ SSS. I cannot feel a difference but then I have XL hands, the length of my hand is not that common for a male (long fingers and thumb). The NJ has a thinner profile neck, just a wide radius. That's what makes it feel bigger in hand. Most speed playing necks have a wider fretboard radius and thinner neck profile. Very common since the 80's when Shred was prevalent, except in Malmsteen's case. Lol

  • @malfeasant_dino
    @malfeasant_dino Рік тому +2

    I just stumbled across this video and I had to comment to say the guitar tones used in this video are fantastic. Can you let us know what is being used?

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      Thanks man! I'm just using some of my presets on the Boss GX-100

  • @bjornedvardsson5510
    @bjornedvardsson5510 Рік тому

    Thank you! The video was really helpful.

  • @juandanielgarciamercado
    @juandanielgarciamercado 2 роки тому

    I love my Schecter but I had to change the tone pot, it went but like 2 weeks after I bought it

  • @RafaelMarquesOficial
    @RafaelMarquesOficial Рік тому

    Does the Schecter bridge go up and down or it’s just down direction ?

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому

      Up and down so you can adjust the height

  • @webrbio3153
    @webrbio3153 Рік тому

    Two Nobs is the correct amount. Fender has been getting Strat tone Controls wrong for 60+ years. For an S-style its better to have either a single global Tone OR one for the middle & neck plus a dedicated one for the bridge. To have two for the the middle and neck but NOT one for the bridge where it actually matters is pretty ridiculous. I rewired my tone for global/all pickups and move the volume + tone nobs down to the edge of the pick guard where both tones used to be leaving the spot for the volume nob empty to make room as I thought it was too close to the strings.

  • @persiaguitar
    @persiaguitar Рік тому +1

    I got this guitar and I have an intonation issue, I did everything under heaven to resolve it and it did not resolve, went to the shop I got it , the man worked on it and said he needs a few days to fix It , I bought this just for 1 week today I decided to ask him to change it for me , still waiting for his response:(

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому

      Ah dude that sucks! I hope you get it resolved

  • @canyonproductions7683
    @canyonproductions7683 Рік тому +1

    I only had to watch 2 minutes to realize these are both rockin guitars but I DO wish Fender would make a series of the Player that have Jumbo frets. Small frets are NOT for us lead players. Us Bender guys. (And gals)

  • @trevorbelmont4633
    @trevorbelmont4633 Рік тому

    Which Dimarzio pickups did he use?

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому

      I put an Andy Timmons in the bridge and a true velvet in the neck

    • @trevorbelmont4633
      @trevorbelmont4633 Рік тому

      @@andydavid9 alright thanks they sound great.. so the stock pickups wasnt that good eh? Stock does sound a bit botique but kinda thin and boxy from the demo's ive heard.. Ok my next strat would be a Schecter NJ with Dimazrio TV+AT

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      @@trevorbelmont4633 no worries man! I didn’t think they sounded bad if I’m honest. I took it to get a service and while it was there I fancied trying some dimarzios, and they’re great pickups

    • @trevorbelmont4633
      @trevorbelmont4633 Рік тому

      @@andydavid9 Yeah anything from AT sounds great tbh.. I have the JHS@ and it sounds ridiculous

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      @@trevorbelmont4633 yeah dude, that was my favourite OD pedal!

  • @EricIgorsen
    @EricIgorsen 5 місяців тому

    I agree with most of what you say . I would add that for me fenders 9,5 fretboard radius is the dealbreaker for me. I o also like the schacters xtra jumbo frets although it wold be nice if they were SS frets. I like the schecter roasted neck , its more stable. I also like the schecter 2 controls . Its all you need and it doesnt get in the way . On s type guitars i mod i aways just use the bottom 2 control hole and plug the open one. This gives even more clearance. The pups on the schecter seem a little cheap and they should be flat staggered on this guitar with a 14" radius . I always take the tuners apart and fill with synthetic grease . I like the schecters tapered neck joint. What I dont like about many schecters are the color choices. The have like 100s of guitars that all look the same with dreary boring colors and some like this one in silly toyish colors. Be nice if the had this one in some more interesting and classy colors. G&L and Godin offers s guitars in nicer colors. Nice playing by the way.

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  5 місяців тому

      @@EricIgorsen thanks dude! Yeah, they’ve got a black one which is nice! A lot classier

  • @godofrainbows
    @godofrainbows Рік тому

    Is changing the pick ups really necessary?

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      Totally down to the player man. The stock pickups weren’t bad, I just preferred the Dimarzio’s. And as this guitar is my main one, it was worth it.

    • @godofrainbows
      @godofrainbows Рік тому +1

      @@andydavid9 cool. Thanks!

  • @erniesmusic27
    @erniesmusic27 Рік тому

    Great comparison!!! Which Dimarzios pickups have you installed in the NJ? Cheers!

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      Thanks dude! I put a true velvet in the neck and the Andy Timmons in the bridge

    • @erniesmusic27
      @erniesmusic27 Рік тому

      @@andydavid9 It sounds great!!!! I'm a fan of Andy Timmons by the way!!!👍💯

  • @dustinjlewis1
    @dustinjlewis1 2 роки тому +2

    You getting the new PT version of this guitar? It's like an HS tele. Got me one on preorder.

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому

      I really want to! They look soooo nice

    • @dustinjlewis1
      @dustinjlewis1 2 роки тому

      @@andydavid9 ua-cam.com/video/hJIV0ii7ccc/v-deo.html

  • @maxwiedemann5423
    @maxwiedemann5423 2 роки тому

    I have the schecter and it sounds VERY clear but doesnt have the warm sound of a strat. Did the Pickup-change help with that?

    • @BOUZOUKISIGNIS
      @BOUZOUKISIGNIS 2 роки тому

      In my opinion this happens due to the 500k volume pot that schecter uses in conjuction with one 250k tone pot. Fender guitars use 3 250k pots for all singles pickups when in sss and a concentric 250/500k and 1 250k pot for 2 singles for tone and 1 500k for humbucker tone pot (see the new professionals) volume pot when in hss . So no way a schechter will sound like a fender strat in terms of warmth etc.

    • @cookiemonster2949
      @cookiemonster2949 Рік тому

      No. Fender is fender.

  • @captn_hanky
    @captn_hanky Рік тому +4

    This comparison makes zero sense. Changing the pickups basically destroys the factory sound of the schecter.

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      This isn’t a tone comparison man that’s why I’m not talking about the tone. I’m only talking about the differences between the two guitars aesthetically and what they’re like to hold/play

    • @captn_hanky
      @captn_hanky Рік тому +1

      @@andydavid9 ok and why can I hear you playing if it is NOT about the tone?

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +1

      @@captn_hanky I only added in the clips of some playing as I thought it added to the video. Again, I spend the whole video talking about what each guitar has that I like and don't like, and why I would choose one over the other.

    • @sicilianmammalian
      @sicilianmammalian 9 днів тому

      Fr though lol why not put them in the fender for the comparison too

  • @JohnnyRoggio
    @JohnnyRoggio 2 роки тому

    Great playing bro, a new subscriber here. I have a 2012 & 2005 American Deluxe HSS. I'm curious to what single coils you have in the fender are & how you like the Pickups you dropped into the Schecter. Cheers !!!

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks man! The fender just has stock pups in. Just the standard player series ones. I like the dimarzios In my NJ. I think the bridge has a nice amount of punch to it.

  • @oguzhanaldemir
    @oguzhanaldemir 2 роки тому

    damn man you can play. perfect sound, perfect playing.

  • @kitcorner3668
    @kitcorner3668 2 роки тому

    Nice vid man

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому

      Legend! Cheers dude 👌🏼

  • @andrelp9596
    @andrelp9596 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Andy, what kind did you use to replace the hum bucker and the neck pickups. Thanks and nice video!

  • @tonys518
    @tonys518 2 місяці тому

    you can't really do a comp if you've changed the pups!!!

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 місяці тому

      @@tonys518 hence why I don’t compare the tones and only talk about what they feel like to play 😉

  • @davi4128
    @davi4128 2 роки тому +1

    in my opinion, Schecter wins easily ^__^

  • @tenebroruncr4374
    @tenebroruncr4374 2 роки тому +1

    I have Mexican, American and Japanese Strat and a Nick Jhonston SSS Beautiful Atomic Coral with a very dark maple.
    They are different guitars and feel different. The shape of the body is not exact and the fretboard the same. If you are looking for a Strat buy the original. What I like least are the pills, they don't have the clarity and tone of Fender. I still love it but I prefer my Strats. The quality in the finishes is like Fender Japan but bridge and tuners are of the low quality to Fender.

  • @Stratisfied22
    @Stratisfied22 Рік тому +1

    The Schecter NJ blows away the Fender in every way from fretwork to overall quality. Way better specs and appointments and that roasted maple neck with the ebony fretboard is something special. 99.9 % of the Fenders off the shelf need a fret job or some type of work.

  • @songmore
    @songmore 2 роки тому

    Schecter is a cool guitar, but has to be modified after you buy it. Hardware is bad, pickups are not inspiring. Also, ebony fretboards are prone to cracking, so you have to be careful with weather/humidity.

  • @georgyj111111
    @georgyj111111 2 роки тому

    I have ordered the Schecter and I disappointed. Doesn't hold the tuning at all, strings are rusty, don't really like the pickups, looks way more eggyellowwhite than on pictures, the frets are raugh and need leveling. Very weak.

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому +1

      Oh shit man! I’m pretty sure that’s just a bad one. I’ve posted quite a few vids on this guitar and it’s constantly getting great comments. Sorry to hear that though dude, nothing worse than opening a guitar box to be disappointed!

  • @sychustudio2525
    @sychustudio2525 Рік тому

    Schecter sounds more better, more transparent .

  • @Mexxx65
    @Mexxx65 2 роки тому +2

    Fender Players Series Mexican, if you want authentic stratocaster sounds
    Schecter Nick Johnston , if you want to sound like Nick Johnston

  • @paulhatzigiannis
    @paulhatzigiannis Рік тому

    Unfair comparison...

  • @bluwng
    @bluwng 6 місяців тому

    As an engineer electric guitar language is confusing it’s like Bizarro from Superman everything is backwards and nonsensical. They call vibrato bridge a tremolo or worse say whammy bar when the bar is just the lever arm, the bridge does all the work. Things sound dirty or muddy or warm none of which are terms used in acoustics. You use 10s which is plural are you saying you 10 awg across all strings why not just say 10-46? They believe wood species influences the waveform created from the guitar when it is an electro magnetic system. Worse off they ignorantly defend these ideas.

    • @soccerman127
      @soccerman127 6 місяців тому

      It takes a trained ear to hear how the difference in woods affect sound of an electric guitar

    • @bluwng
      @bluwng 6 місяців тому

      @@soccerman127 according to who…..you?

    • @soccerman127
      @soccerman127 6 місяців тому

      @@bluwng According to me, other experienced guitarists, and professional luthiers who’ve spent decades working on their craft. When I first started playing, I didn’t hear any damn difference either, but it came after some years

    • @bluwng
      @bluwng 6 місяців тому

      @@soccerman127 if it’s real it can be captured. This is why spectrum analyzers are used and they don’t have any bias.

  • @FrankFurther
    @FrankFurther 2 роки тому +1

    Weight is a bad thing, more weight means less resonance. This is why lighter les pauls are worth so much more than heavy cheap les pauls.

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому +2

      Again man, it’s personal preference 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @rollinas1
      @rollinas1 2 роки тому +3

      I recommend you watch the test on UA-cam how one guy ended up playing the guitar with no guitar body at all and that sounded just like a 'normal' guitar. The main difference to 'tone' is your pick ups and your speakers, everything else is personal preference.

  • @Jeremy-pe9jq
    @Jeremy-pe9jq Рік тому

    Once you change one in any way from what it is new,u can't honestly compare...next

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  Рік тому +2

      😅 that’s why I didn’t talk about the tone and only focused on what they’re like to play

  • @dannym4029
    @dannym4029 Рік тому

    S we

  • @kiarashpkt
    @kiarashpkt 2 роки тому

    so u just changed the pickups and then started to review? and you sure this is a great way to compare those both guitars?! it's like i buy and ltd mh50 and put seymour duncan nazgul on them and then say: "the tone this guitar is great! but fretboards and neck are not good" it same the same disaster man....

    • @andydavid9
      @andydavid9  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah man, I stated that the Schecter had a pickup change which is why I didn’t talk about the tone of them, This video is talking about the “feel” of each guitar.
      I only added me playing the guitar to give the video more substance. You’ll notice I don’t compare the tone. It’s not a tone comparison video