Near miss at Whitby on the Esk valley line with a ballast train and a very unhappy driver.

[@iangregoryhome]

Did I blink and miss the near miss!?

[@tonywilliams4357]

I must have fallen asleep and missed the exciting part...

[@ramblingrob4693]

Clickbait

[@samspade975]

We never seem to get any sit down protesters on the railways, ah well

[@user-jt2eu1cc6p]

I live in the isle of mann and there are many unmanned crossings on both the IMR and the MER.
I have always treated them as I would a road crossing as you could never know when an extra service can follow.
Even in the UK, at a level crossing even when the barriers are up I still took in both directions.
It's only common sense

[@viffviffer9804]

Old people though. They were probably at 100% just walking

[@Guytrains]

👍👍

[@tallmansfavorites7563]

There is a profound shortage of common sense anymore.

[@jonathanwills6030]

The bobbled hat lady was in the wetherspoons on the Quay afore it reached the crossing..Great footage though.. cheers

[@green856w]

Why did it take about 6 minutes of video to get to the key learning point?

[@IAmOftenWrong]

It wasn't a 'key learning point' video, it was a train video that had an 'interesting moment' in it and like many thousands of tube vids it used that 'moment' for the title. Fortunately you saved me having to watch it all to find the gold tho 😂

[@richardarthur4024]

Rest of it was dull

[@redboyjan]

First day on the Internet is it? Titles and descriptions aren't allowed to relate to the content now. If they do match you should like and subscribe immediately. You found a normal. Not many of them post ever unfortunately

[@nobbybrown8056]

Near miss? Where, those people were miles away!

[@RTTVProductions]

To anyone that's knows anything about the railway a near miss is when some of a danger could happen like idiot's crossing infant of an heavy move train. They could of tried. Anything. That's the near miss. People think they didn't even seem to notice the train was even there. Its idiot's like that that cause all the accidents and problems on todays railways.

[@terry-wc9sw]

all of 10 metres away ,did those people STOP LOOK LISTEN ,NO THEY DID NOT,any one of them could have fell over or any other mishap ,DONT EVER WALK IN FRONT OF ONCOMING TRAIN .

[@ncs8730]

They were rather near, that's why the driver gave a very long sound signal - an angry signal.

[@bigdarbs19]

Jeez it doesn't get any closer than that. I was holding my breath, then I realised I couldn't hold it for that long.

[@RTTVProductions]

Message to the stupid among you that think this is nothing. A train is not a car where you put your foot on a peddle to stop. read the comment before this of a gentleman that knows what he is taking about.

[@bigdarbs19]

@@RTTVProductions Except the train was practically stationary when they crossed. Most people would have seen that situation and judged that there was more than adequate time to cross. Which there was.

[@alanhesketh9265]

Nice video, but I would hardly describe it as a near miss, it wasn't as if the train was doing 50 mph. I bet they jumped out of their skin when he sounded the horn...lol!

[@terry-wc9sw]

WALKING IN FRONT OF MOVING TRAIN WHATEVER SPEED CAN BE DEADLY ,NOT ONE OF THEM STOPPED LOOKED OR LISTENED ,

[@MickeyM-yg9ty]

Moneyshot at 5:50 for those without time to watch all 7:41 of the paint drying

[@RTTVProductions]

The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.

[@Peasmouldia]

You leave emotional reaction behind when you step onto the footplate. The driver is just concerned for the safety of his train and the people on the crossing. It's what pilots call " the sterile cockpit principle". Don't get mad, just take a deep breath and focus!
Thanks and blessings.

[@RTTVProductions]

A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?

[@jondrizzle4554]

At least 200 Tons at a guess

[@itssteve1923]

@@jondrizzle4554 don't forget the loaded wagons too!

[@justinobrien3593]

the 2 locomotives are at least 250 tons plus the load i would say 500 tons.

[@justinobrien3593]

​@@jondrizzle4554a class 56 is roughly about 125 tons per locomotive so 2 loco's plus the load probably close on 450-500 tons.

[@philgray3443]

I have picked up quite a few pieces from the rail tracks around Sydney. I guess the trauma everyone else experiences isn't the first thing the jumpers think of. Removing legs from axles was not my favourite job before lunch.

[@FeckHallBahn]

Enjoyed this, thank you. Always nice to see freight.

[@RTTVProductions]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bartonseagrave9605]

Normally the Middlesbrough to Whitby Service is very poor, they could easily run one every hour in summer but this Holiday Special is much loved.

[@dafyddreesjones4323]

Great video thanks for sharing

[@kevanhubbard9673]

The mysterious platform 2 at Battersby Junction you must be stood on.I have never seen anything use it but somebody once told me that the NYMR use it for loco run arounds when they run their specials between Grosmount and Battersby Junction usually using vintage diesels.

[@andrewmonument8847]

Yes... The line extends for a short distance past the station platform. This means diesels can uncouple, then run round via the other line - to position themselves at the other end of the train.

[@andymckenna1262]

Yes used for loco run rounds, both on Nymr passenger trains( remember them? ) and loco and support coaches coming for galas etc to Grosmont. At one time the neck beyond the station ran to the ecml at picton as I recall

[@lesatkins42]

@@andymckenna1262, 4 lines met at Battersby Junction. I think the 4th went to Rosedale.

[@davidtalbot941]

@@lesatkins42 correct; to the foot of the Ingleby Incline, rope-hauled to the top (known as Siberia!) then on the Rosedale Iron Railway (and briefly also to Farndale).

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

​@@lesatkins42 only 3 lines met at Battersby. The line from Picton to Grosmont was the mainline, the 2 branches were to the Middlesbrough (now the main line) and to Rosedale.

[@charliepreston877]

What a load of crap, there is no near miss, and a driver who is horn happy, just boring old footage.

[@RTTVProductions]

YOU NEED SOME SENCE OF SAFTY For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows
1 The stopping distance of the train?
2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos?
People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!

[@pbsteamatspeed7683]

Good video. Scary how people take risks at crossings. There was footage on itv about people leaping barriers at Blakedown only this week.

[@Daytona2]

Nicely framed shots 👍

[@Ian-xq4rt]

Near miss? Did I miss something? A little extreme given the train was travelling slowly and the pedestrian crossing and individuals had plenty of time, be realistic or just after clicks I wonder

[@andymccabe6712]

Installing your brain....perhaps.....!?!?

[@RTTVProductions]

The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.

[@user-ru1sx5ex2x]

01:16 the purpose of the rear train is for the return journey....

[@boblovell5789]

It's good to see the raiway at work. That's what these videos portray. Makes a change to NYM services, or other!

[@RTTVProductions]

Couldn't agree more!

[@billmmckelvie5188]

For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows
1 The stopping distance of the train?
2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos?
People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!

[@tonyrobinson362]

That guy likes blowing his own horn!

[@rpearce18]

I thought it was going to be kids on the line, not people who should know a lot better

[@barriejowett2412]

Excellent video 👍👍👍👍👍

[@RTTVProductions]

Thank you 👍

[@markholinshedshistorydocum9938]

Near miss? I keep missing that bit, it must have been so fast, this near miss, where ever it happened.

[@RTTVProductions]

The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.

[@johnkeepin7527]

It looks a bit worse on account of the focal length in use, but if you look at the timing, it’s more than 30 seconds after the peds crossed over. Note that the minimum time for an automatic half barrier type crossing is 25s - so if it was one of those, it would be a non-event.

[@teessidetransport]

When was all this recorded?

[@ThePanzer6]

People need go learn patience

[@RTTVProductions]

A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?

[@catastrophic009]

I think the near miss was the driver nearly missing the serving time at the cafe !

[@RTTVProductions]

The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.

[@catastrophic009]

All a bit of a storm in a teacup ! This is why health & safety has gone mad !...he was hardly driving a Eurostar !!@@RTTVProductions

[@DavidR_192]

@@RTTVProductions- You don't "press" the brake. It's a Westinghouse lever. You push it to apply brakes.

[@roachcatcher266]

The couple could of had a cuppa on the tracks and still made it out of the way , with time to spare, krettin driver.

[@catastrophic009]

Yeah I was going to say the very same thing but I think my friend is an HSE consultant ! He'll have them doing safety homework from the green cross code man !@@roachcatcher266

[@mrpete1972]

What is the purpose of the engine at the back as it didn't seem to be running?

[@kristinajendesen7111]

On site, where the work is taking place to replace the ballast, it can head straight back out again in the other direction when the work is done or shunt on site without having to run the other engine round.

[@Test-hw5fn]

@@kristinajendesen7111It also saves having the loco to run round the train at Battersby🤔

[@rikwhite6337]

Its called Top and Tailing. Its so that you dont have to propel the train backwards, as this requires a man walking behind with a radio. The driver can just walk down to the 2nd engine and drive in the other direction.

[@bitmadmax]

Those wagons dont half moan and groan 😀

[@oddities-whatnot]

The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.

[@RTTVProductions]

Thank you. you seem to be one of the sensible people among the thousands of idiots leave replies on here. no wonder there is so many accidents at crossings these days. Thank you

[@IanAnthonyMartin]

Indeed; on a normal day, there was enough time for them to clear the crossing, but their lateness meant no allowance for exceptions - such as a fall.

[@teejayy2130]

I love how the train staff pile out at Battersby to reset the points. And now they've got rid of the Pacers it is nice to use the line. Just enough time at Middlesbrough to nip across the station to get the return trip.😊

[@lesatkins42]

There's a youtube video, one of the NYMR training-type videos (I think) that shows what is involved in operating the points at Battersby. Sorry, I can't remember what its called now.

[@jeremyrichards8327]

Didn't hear it because of the bobble hat.

[@lindsaypeterholden2701]

they had just had a pint in the Board inn🤣

[@CattusLiquorem]

Title is misleading ("clickbait", as usual).. there is no near miss and no 'very unhappy driver'.. should be titled 'a train driver sounds his horn approaching a crossing'.

[@RTTVProductions]

If you don't like it you know what you can do

[@KILKennyLaDa9898-js2nr]

Listening to the Boro match action on their ear pods.

[@Whitbylass1985]

Another enjoyable video thank you. 😊

[@RTTVProductions]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mattval6293]

Hardly a near miss

[@TrainVideosForFun]

Title is rather click bait’ish, they could’ve waited at the crossing no doubt about that.

[@RTTVProductions]

A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?

[@DarkAngel-ph9on]

Old people always know better it’s the same getting on a plane

[@SimonTog]

Good video Robert :)

[@RTTVProductions]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@user-zn4yh9ng6e]

Is the second engine powered up, or just being towed? Wondering how the lead engine communicates with the rear otherwise?

[@tgk300xx4]

Two drivers and a radio

[@VictheSecret]

It's turned off. No need to have it powering. It's used for the return journey there's nowhere for the lead loco to run round.

[@VictheSecret]

@@tgk300xx4It's turned off and unmanned. The crew of the front loco take it back for the return journey.

[@andrewdking]

Nice, interesting video, bit like someone else asked, what's the purpose of the loco on the rear on such a short train ?

[@philrichardson5726]

The line is a dead end, so to exit it via the second route to whitby you must use the second train to pull the train, think of a letter Y, you have to pull into the bottom of the Y and pull back out the other fork.

[@tonyrobinson362]

Slight overkill on horn, Ex secondman Sheffield Midland.

[@paulhayter2873]

Near miss my arse😂

[@Will-dm1kt]

Near miss if a tortoise was crossing the track, as always the "near miss" was at the end of the video. Won't be watching any more.

[@RTTVProductions]

OK goodbye

[@DavidR_192]

Oh come on, that was a clickbait title! They should have waited yes, but that was far from a near miss. Even if the bobble-hatted lady had fallen and was trapped in the track, if that Class 56 dropped the emergency brake it would have stopped in about 3 metres, at that slow speed. Look at the distance between the train and the pedestrains, and look at the train's speed!!! 5:55 Good video but don't clickbait with the title please.

[@RTTVProductions]

YOU NEED SOME SENCE OF SAFTY For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows
1 The stopping distance of the train?
2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos?
People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!

[@magsu]

What did it come into Whitby for? I live just over the river and I love it when something different comes into the station!

[@robertpowell7672]

To deliver railway ballast?

[@markholinshed9467]

Oh. I wonder why so many Muppets are attracted by such a dramatic headline - and then make a comment.

[@lawrenceparker2315]

NEAR MISS? I missed it!

[@richardkeeler2347]

Wow that was close

[@stevem-h3562]

was that it:...? Thats considered a "near miss""???????

[@RTTVProductions]

Yes a near miss something that could happen even though in doesn't. The idiot's crossing could of fallen or anything and a train of that wait doesn't just stop like a car.

[@camper234]

What's the cargo please?

[@RTTVProductions]

Its a ballast train

[@terry-wc9sw]

GRAVEL TRAIN TO LAY THE BALLAST BETWEEN TRACKS

[@caroltaylor4684]

Click bait

[@RTTVProductions]

A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?

[@johnhodgkinson7147]

What near-miss? Load of bollocks, driver wants a few days on light duties.

[@RTTVProductions]

The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.

[@paulspeight8398]

🤔Your probably right🤫In the old days we only gained 3 days as a depot spare driver, Now days they go off sick claiming STSD 🙄for weeks maybe months on full pay!🤑! If your a driver you expect this to happen sometime during your driving career, Just one of those things you have no control over as I had 3 before I retired😒.

[@michaelthomas6797]

Must have missed the near miss🤔

[@RTTVProductions]

A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?

[@scottuk66]

Near miss 😂

[@michaelrothwell4900]

Near miss... lol

[@RTTVProductions]

Message to the stupid among you that think this is nothing. A train is not a car where you put your foot on a peddle to stop it. read the comment before this of a gentleman that knows what he is taking about.

[@gregrsvr3947]

“Pedal” not peddle.

[@troo_story]

@@gregrsvr3947​​⁠ Not to mention:
* the missing article at the start of the first sentence
* the double space in first sentence
* failure to capitalise the start of the third sentence
* ambiguous meaning of "before this" in the third sentence
* erroneous use of the inanimate relative pronoun _that_ referring to a gentleman in the third sentence
* misspelling of _talking_ in third sentence

[@troo_story]

@RTTVProductions It's probably worth keeping in mind the old saying: "Let him who is without sin cast the first black kettle in glass houses".

[@incandescentwithrage]

Crap video, nothing happens

[@bobp6742]

If he thinks that's a near miss should of done the crewe/ holyhead run back in the 80s, section of line at Rhyl we called murder mile, the track split the caravan park and funfair and part of the fun for the kids was playing chicken crossing the tracks, used to just lay on the horn for the whole mile even at night though it made no difference.

[@itssteve1923]

I remember travelling over that line at the front of a DMU. Those crossings were busy. I believe they have been replaced by footbridges now

[@bobp6742]

​@@itssteve1923
They had overbridges at the time but no one used them preferring to use the foot crossings, but I think your right that the foot crossings have gone completely so you have to use the footbridge.

[@RTTVProductions]

No still all crossing are there today.

[@bobp6742]

@@RTTVProductions
Not been over that route now for 39 years and it was a nice run the holyhead line

[@kc5402]

Clickbait tile. No near miss. Boring. 👎

[@RTTVProductions]

HAVE SOME SENCE For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows
1 The stopping distance of the train?
2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos?
People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!

[@simonwhitlock9189]

Dull as can be, just clickbait.

[@RTTVProductions]

Nice to know it worked. Thank you

[@grahamsumner2984]

💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤

[@RTTVProductions]

A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?