How Ni Effects The Daily Life of an INTJ & INFJ
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The human side of having Ni as your dominant cognitive function and how it makes an INTJ/INFJ feel like an alien.
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Intj = alien
Infj = friendly alien
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We are just here amongst all these humans. 😅
lol, that's cute. 😆
That’s the best description ever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 As an INFJ I absolutely love the INTJs in my life .
I've never been this happy and fulfilled as an INFJ working for an INTJ for more than 3 years now.
Please talk about why Se is so hard for us
This made me chuckle. 😆
My friends are INTJ and once you get to know them, they are warm kind and have good sense of humor. The mastermind part is just how you understand the importance of planning and risk calculating. I am an ENTJ and I have a lot of things people misunderstood how I am. But for me, we treat people with kindness. These videos are meant to provide more info based on personal experience and not to be used to define anyone.
I guess we xNTJs treat people with respect and politeness without all the sugarcoating of the Feelers.. such a refined type of kindness IMO
Exactly! I hope this video can help you understand why the INTJs plan so much in regards to the last comment you left Glitter Bunny about the feeling of not having enough time in a day 🙃
Am an intj and 100% agreed.
Doubt. Intjs are the most mismatched MBTI type.
I actually have huge doubt for extrovert type being lonely, but if it does, i have an empathy for you.
I'm an INTJ myself, and it's so true when you say that we lose track of time. Some days, I can go through the whole day without noting it until it is time to go too bad, and at this point, I'm just filling empty because I just "did nothing" or "accomplish anything". And then I talk about this with someone, and they just don't understand at all...
Thanks for yours videos, I always feel more understanding, and that are other people just like me out there.
Good luck with your channel! 🍀
Thank you, I really do appreciate the support and I love hearing that people are feeling heard🙏
My brother, I know exactly how you feel. You must remember we are not robots.
ISFP often think they are INFJ then reject the theory lol😂
Ikr, I have so much stuff I could be doing in the sensing world, like chores, working on skills, etc. I am constantly thinking about how much more I could be doing, but then the day ends and I feel like I haven't done anything, all I've done is sit watching UA-cam videos and thinking about how things could be
I call it min-maxing. There are times, many times I feel lonely. Then I remember feelings get in the way of the target. It's hard, the multiple outcomes, I do that every day.
My co-workers right now (relatively new job 1 year), said to me today "You're always problem-solving, even when there are no problems." My retort was simple; "That's why there are no problems, I'm mitigating them out before they arise."
Great video Jon
THiS. 💜 Firefighters may get all the glory for swooping in and fixing a problem, but we know it’s far more efficient to mitigate any potential issues/fires from the start. People say that I jump to conclusions. In reality, I’m just really really good at understanding what the consequences will be for each action/decision, so I can usually make the most optimal choice. I try to, anyway, so that all our lives are easier. 😅
My old coworkers said the same thing that it seems like I never run into problems. It's just that I already prepared for them 😂
@FC7040
One of my creatures.
When this ship starts getting crazy-er.. I'll meet you at our spot.
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Anyway, it was as if you'd plucked that right out of my dome.
Many don't see that and still won't connect it once it's gone, it seems. It's unfortunate for all involved really.
"We need them" .. "Why?"
Cuz I dunno.. they know stuff and help us smoosh stuff for later better.
Yeah well that's not really tangible-
We're going to need to bomb it first and there's a possibility of coming to our senses later.
*Told ya! And it's not a happy I told ya I promise. Tried to avoid it but nope.
= Unfortunate.
sooo true
That's wild. I'm INTJ and when I was young my mother used to yell at me all the time to "Snap Back to Reality" - but I never understood why she and everyone else around me thought I had some weird bubble around me. When I started research on MBTI I finally got some insight that I'm not the only one who thinks just like I do! The way you explained this is just how I feel, especially the "how can anyone relate to someones Dom Ni?" what a question!
100% being an Ni-dom is weird compared to other types. I tried explaining it mulitple times to my loved ones and they never understood. It's nice though to be able to meet people online that understands ✊
RIGHT
@@justcallmejon22 As you said in the video... same for Ne doms. I'm ENFP and it is so difficult to "real world" explain how I came up with 5 possible solutions to a problem that seemingly have no connection to that problem at surface level. It is as though I live my entire life with each problem being a multiple choice question... and I can read all the answers, including the ridiculous ones, and still choose "E: All of the above", because I know they all have merit... especially when some are paired together. I struggle with choosing the best option, though. I can't extrapolate the final outcome and all the steps and variables in between very well. That's where my INTJ husband comes in. He loves the ideas I feed him, and I love that he makes the complex plan from the idea that will bring the best solution, and I simply get to carry it out in bite sized steps (especially since the doing and building of the thing is the part that is arduous for me... I think that is inferior Si's fault, if I'm understanding correctly).
Anyway, I also live my life in my head... with a cast full of colorful characters sharing their stories with me (and I'm actually typing them out... extremely slowly). I will go entire days without remembering to drink water or eat (when I'm focused in on an interest or project). I will forget how many days it's been since I took a shower, even though I know I freshen up each day. I never see faces in the store, because I simply recognize a body and inanimate objects in the sensory world and I move to avoid them while also keeping my mind engaged with everything I'm pondering. I hone in on what I need to buy, but space back out while moving to the next aisle. Teachers repeatedly told my parents I was daydreaming too much in class while I was growing up. Jokes on them, I made honor roll anyway, and still live in my daydreams as an adult. 😂
But yeah, it is so difficult to explain how I came up with certain possible solutions when some of them make no logical connection to the original question.
And now you tell me my husband has the entire multiverse in his head? I always pictured his mind as a super complex machine with thousands of wheels and gears all turning one another. Each wheel or gear is a new factor that impacts all the rest. And if even one wheel goes missing or gums up, the rest stop turning and maintenance needs to be done to overcome the broken gear and switch it out with a new one and a new plan. I think the multiverse analogy is cooler. Maybe this is why he loves Marvel so much... and Inception. And the movie, Live, Die, Repeat.
Anyway, thanks for an amazing video. After watching it, I understand my INTJ husband a little better... and now know his seemingly incessant questions serve a unique purpose for his mind.
It is very lonely for Ni doms for sure. I dated an ISTJ and my constant "what if and why" mind constantly clashed with his need to be a human scheduling app. It felt like I was dating siri and I'm sure my need to explore my imagination wasn't fun for him. When people ask me why I'm smiling or laughing I say "nothing", but really I think to myself "If only y'all knew how chill things are in here you'd never want to leave either..."
I felt the same way when I dated an ISTJ 😅
@@justcallmejon22 LOL, it was bad!
Me: "How was work?"
Him: In his robot voice: "I did x @ 13:00, y 14:00, z @ 15:00. I'll eat at 17:00 hours today and then workout until 18:30 we can hang out @19:15 until 21:00 then it will be time for me to go to bed."
Me:"Thanks siri for the scheduling update."😂😒
The only time he wasn't a scheduling app was when he was shields down lol, then he'd lose track of time altogether lol. Sadly that was the only time we connected at all as he's an imagination killer otherwise.
What if and why? Idk man sounds more Ne to me.
@@adorablechrysalis7386 "What if" is a place all Ni doms live, our curiosity (why/why not), and our need to gather as much information as possible to find the best idea/answer/conclusion is classic Ni. Unlike Ne doms where they just keep gathering information with no need of sorting/sifting/reason to get to a logical conclusion they just keep coming up with ideas. The ISTJ I was dating is an Si dom they think linearly, very black and white thus my Ni dom pattern-seeking mind was too much for him.
@@adorablechrysalis7386 "What if" is how all intuition work, as a secondary Ne user, Ne is more about "then what" rather than "and why"
This was so well done, I couldn't have put it better myself! I can't count the number of times I've felt like the only person seeing how the metaphorical bus is about to hit an oh so obvious wall, and for others to think I'm just being paranoid or making things up because they can't see the decision tree playing out that I saw two steps ago. It really can make you feel like this strange being that doesn't "belong" and has to put on a stage play to act like everyone else which can get lonely.
Also that Ni-Fi feedback loop is a good "real life" example of what the "cost" of having a super power is for having the ability of relative foresight. Like we can't predict the future, but we can certainly see more variables than most and where they lead, which helps if we have the influence to really steer the ship to try and point it to the best course. But the draw backs... oh boy... Not having enough info, Not knowing if the chosen path is really the "best" path or just the "easiest" path, the dreaded unknown-unknowns, so many things that can just mentally derail you at the most unexpected or worst of times. And that's before the negative loop of feedback kicks in where you can somehow manage to rationalize a miss as being your fault, even when there is realistically no way it could be, because of a spiderweb decision tree that you tracked back to a decision three months ago. 😅
I wouldn't trade being an INTJ for anything, because some of the funniest, greatest moments have been being able to see a plan play out perfectly as you predicted, and whether it was for the betterment of yourself and/or someone else, you called it. You saw the plan, and navigated it perfectly and it feels GREAT! But like all things it has it's drawbacks and we can truly turn into our own worst enemies and strongest critics. It makes it easier to shrug off when others may try to criticize, but only because there probably isn't anyone that can point out everything I feel I did wrong more than myself.
"t makes it easier to shrug off when others may try to criticize, but only because there probably isn't anyone that can point out everything I feel I did wrong more than myself." Bars bro, bars ✊
"Ni is trying to reduce randomness so we can choose the fate of the cat" Ahhahaha I can finally understand why I had a really hard time understanding probability during high school while almost all students regarded it as the most basic math subject.
After learning MBTI, I realized that basic is subjective 🙃
Exactly! What a brilliant way to wrap it up!
The more you upload, the more thankful I am for your channel. I don’t think I know any INTJ’s in real life, and at first I disregarded the mbti community because of the stereotypes people attached to different types and the community overall, but I stumbled upon your INTJ childhood video and the most misunderstood video, and it was like someone went back in time and explained my whole life. Your videos, The cognitive functions, it all made sense. I’ve never had this much clarity and insight into why I do what I do before, I am incredibly thankful. There is so much value in your videos and your comments, I had to leave a comment. This information is worth more than diamond to a growing INTJ. Thanks a ton man
Thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate the comment. I also hate the stereotype so I understand how you felt when you disregarded the community ✊
I hate the stereotype, too. My INTJ husband has one of the most caring and authentic hearts I know. He does everything with great intentionality to better our life and the lives of those he cares for. He's not cold. He's not calculating. And his sense of humor cracks me up. It's very off beat and random and out of left field, and I love that.
The stereotypes bother me because I know he is a good guy who uses his plans to help rather than hinder. His only plans for world domination are in the business realm... and even that is intended to help us and others.
Anyway, I think INTJs are amazing. Ignore the stereotype and keep being your awesome self.
-an ENFP who also hates her own stereotype of never being able to finish a project, being irresponsible, being only rainbows and sunshine all the time, and being an airhead with nearly no depth. 🤦♀️
I feel so recognised it hurts lol... I'm an INFJ and I often wish I wasn't one because everything you stated in the video is basically my reality down to the park example. It feels like I'm floating in an ocean and just staring at the sky with no clue what's happening and why and how I got there and it makes me feel dissociative at times. Ni-Ti loops for me are extremely hard to tap out of, it takes a whole lot of forcing myself to journal down my thoughts in a brain dump before my mind explodes or just touch some grass and watch the clouds to just ground myself into the reality. The despair I feel for the world around me knowing where we're headed but the constant undying hope for making things right especially in a humanitarian way is a conflict we face over a morning cup of tea sometimes. Ni is indeed both a blessing and a curse, it really depends on how we navigate with it 👐
Agreed, prespective is the key difference between a good day and a bad day. My Ni sibling, just remember that you're never alone ✊
Ni has always been hard to explain for me. When people ask why I am confident about my "insight", I just say "I just know". Explaining how I came up with my conclusions usually doesn't serve me well because I forget that I act based on connecting patterns and people usually dont get it even if you explain it to them.
Ni is great because it makes you see the world beneath its crust, but sometimes it hinders me to act upon things because I am _scared_ to face reality, foreseeing the hurdles before running the track.
Agreed, I was worried that people wouldn't be able to relate to this video because of how abstract Ni is to describe. I feel your pain talking to non-Ni users about the topic =)
I use this metaphor to explain Ni to people how I "just know" things: imagine a 100-piece puzzle. The more pieces of the puzzle that get put together, the easier it is to predict what the finished product will look like. If you've only put together 3 pieces, then you won't be able to predict what the final picture could look like; but if you put together 90/100 pieces of the puzzle, then it's easy to predict what the rest of it will look like.
I'm doing the same thing, except the "puzzle pieces" are little tiny clues that I picked up on subconsciously, but didn't realize the significance of until later. (I'm an INTJ.)
I'm actually an ENFP who happens to have a lot of INFJs in my life, and my dad was an INTJ.
This speaks so much to me, I see it so much in my loved ones. Thank you for helping me understand, and somehow also helping me feel understood with your Ne dom comment. It is lonely, and a lot of people can't wrap their brains around it.
I think I can love my loved ones more efficiently now, thank you. 🥰
Please take care of your Ni doms for me 🙂
I am an INTJ raised by my INFJ mom. We love using our Ni together (the things that could happen when we do a certain thing).
I absolutely love how you explained INTJ's Ni dreams that Te-Fi-Se work so hard to make Ni a reality. Its just a matter of time. We INTJs achieve our boldest dreams for a reason. Once we have a conclusion on our "whys" and "hows". Nothing can stop us except death. Our abstract dreams seem crazy to some ppl. But it makes perfect sense for us bc we already played out any possible outcome of things in our heads and we make structured plans in the next coming years that's why "we are 10 steps ahead". That's the map that we follow. We just need TIME. Thank you for this video!
I have a soft spot for INFJs so I'm glad to hear that you and your mom have a good relationship. Agreed, nothing in our way when we've decided on our plans 🙃
As an INFJ ― I always “known” that I need to follow the Right Way\Action (Dharma) ― which will lead me to the my ultimate Destination (Karma). That is instead of Plans; instead - there is a General Direction. Does this seem strange to INTJs?
I am an INFJ with an INTJ dad and one of the places we most often connect is imagining possible outcomes.
As an INFJ I legit assumed everyone just thought the same way I did, and that thus they would make bad choices on purpose. It took me a while to realize, some people do not have the natural ability to sit down and think everything through to the end, and do this over and over with all the possibilities. Or even be mean to someone, because they did not even realize that they were being hurtful, because they don't connect the dots of what that person said two weeks ago and what was on the news...
I feel like I do often change reality for people, but mostly by changing the way people think about things. Which in fact changes absolutely everything.
And yes to the forgetting which time-space-continuum I am on while on public transport. lol
It blew my mind as well the first time I realized that people don't think about decisions after what's in front of their own nose. I get you INFJ, keep leading humanity towards their best path ✊
This brought me to tears at the end. It gets very poetic and beautiful. Then you say that about how the other parts of the Ni dom personality remind you of how you get visions into reality and make it a bit more like your visions. Thanks.
same 😭
Ni brings me to very beautiful places 😀
@@justcallmejon22 let it keep bringing you there
I’ve watched a lot of MBTI content, but this is the first time I’ve heard someone describe Ni so accurately yet expansively. Rings true for me as a fellow Ni dom :). Thanks for this video!
Thank you! I still feel like I didn't do the topic Justic 🙃
This video is wonderful! Not only did you find a way to closely describe my reality, perception of the world and simply being, but, you do so from a humanistic/human be-ing perspective. You put a spin on the INTJ experience I've rarely found elsewhere (including textbooks & etc). So refreshing!
I'm really glad to hear that it's coming across that way 😀
The reason why Ni is more real than the sensory because the sensory world can easily be manipulated and people of the sensory will just see things for the way they are while Ni doms will know somethings not right and after some time, they will make sense of what's really going on
It's crazy how we're one of the only type's out there that can see what you're saying. It's common sense to us but man it is not common sense to anyone else 😂
@@justcallmejon22 It's not common sense, Ni isn't common😂. When I learned social skills because I never used to fit in, I went from someone who is misunderstood (reactive) to a leader of any group, being so popular and having them believe in anything I want them to (proactive after studying humans) but I'm an INFJ. As an Ni user or alien, it's either you don't fit in or be the most popular. There's no in between because we are not normal, we either outcasts or "gods"
@@ghostridda - I can't do that ― but that's probably mostly because my parents moved me to another country when I was a child; one that is inappropriate for me. But I have other plans for the World.
Thank you for making this video! ✨️ I've been trying to find more information about this side of Ni to make sense of some of the things I've always experienced. Just recently, someone called me out on my lack of time awareness, being indecisive, and stressing over little things.
Even though...
I'm not stressing, I'm just processing.
I'm not indecisive, I just need more time to make a decision.
And time is... well, irrelevant. 😅
I am aware of losing time, and I am literally just existing. I get stuck in my mind... This one is probably the most detrimental to people and things in this reality. But for me, I don't feel as though the time was wasted. A lot can be processed during this time warp. 🤯
It's so hard to explain, and you did it really well! ✨️ I always knew my weird behaviors were because of Ni, but I don't know any other INTJs and a lot of my friends can't even open up to a conversation about this 'weird' stuff. It makes me feel so much better to know I'm not alone! 🙃
Also, this video was over in 2 mins. I had to watch it again cuz time flew by 🤣
I always wish there were 72 hours a day. I have the energy to do so but my tunnel focus is just like horses w eye pads 😂😂😂
You're never alone ✊
Your comment is EXACTLY where I am! I've been struggling for the past 1-2 yrs with losing time and "not getting anything done". I've even explained to coworkers that although it looks like I'm not doing anything, I really am. Once I've sized up whatever task/situation I go full force, nonstop til whatever outcome/goal is achieved.
I actually decided to just be my own boss and am now self employed and MUCH happier now that I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
I apologize for novella length comments. I'm just SO EXCITED to have found people I can relate to!!
Again, I give my thanks to everyone else who have contributed to this!
you never disappoint with these vids! i wonder how many hours/days/weeks it took for you to actually narrate what being an Ni dom feels like. through out the video, it felt like you just clarified my whole life experience. thank you for the vids.
I always never had enough time!!! I need more 🤣🤣🤣
Most of my videos takes me about 2 weeks of thinking about from every perspective and how best to deliver the content. But this video and the rest of the videos on cognitive functions I've been thinking about since I started my channel 5 months ago 😅
Yes. Crazy. Narcissistic. Autistic... And- most people CANNOT understand. I have zero spontenaety. I can tell you every detail of my current project, but I cannot- absolutely would have to look to see- which underwear I have on or what I ate an hour ago.
It really does feel like we don't belong here. It feels like we were PUT here to do something- but with no clues as to what. And special roadblocks have been installed just to test us.
My entire existence is first in my head, even the smallest choices. It's exactly like you said. It's creating a predetermined end by "If this, then that". The beauty of free will is really just a riddle of consciousness and a lesson in managing our 6 degrees.
I'm not sure I'm lonely though. After years of pretending to care about the crap people find entertaining, funny, interesting, and so on.... it's nice to just be me. No more boring, dumbing down, seen as weird. Now if someone hates me, it isn't for no reason. I like it that way. Once convicted, you may as well benefit from the crime.
The Big Five (OCEAN) test is also very interesting. My scores for OCEAN correlate to my INTJ-T scores. A little scary like 0% agreeableness. But, still, very interesting.
As much as you appreciate us, we truly appreciate you as well.
I don't remember much about my Big Five score but I do remember that I scored 100% for Openness and relatively high for Neuroticism. Maybe that's why I'm so emotional in my videos 😂
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This is beautiful and so well-spoken. You have painted the most vivid Ni picture for me. It’s impossible for me to even begin to know how to describe Ni. You have to live it to know it. Thank you. THANK YOU. ❤
I'm happy to hear that the video was helpful and I hope you know that you're not alone my Ni sister ❤
I don't believe in good or bad, only cause and affect. If I lived your life, in your shell, I will be standing exactly where you are right now. Destiny (future) is written by the past.
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im an INFJ and yes i agree with you on Ni. I dont think theres a better way to explain Ni.
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Such a nice video! I guess its the first time I comment on a video, I’ve been binge watching this channel for a few days now 😅
I like the clarity of how you express our functions so much. We INTJs need time to mature properly and we’re usually late bloomers, but since we do, almost nothing can stop us. Sometimes I feel the burdens of Ni, it seems like I can’t ever relax or stop worrying about things, even on my free time my mind is working on something
You will get there. I am an ENTJ and I get passed that! You just need to be patient w yourself. That’s my personal experience.
I appreciate you commenting! I'm sure you have lots of knowledge that other INTJs would love to hear 😀
Ni is Lonely, until I was like 18 I legit thought I wouldn’t be able to be open with anyone about my mind (having SF parents), when I was in my early teens I found a niche video game series that just screamed Ni, with a ton of deep elements and lots to think about, turns out the creator was an INTJ which I didn’t find out till years later, it was something that felt like it actually appealed to me and not the typical sensor appealing content that honestly makes life feel pointless to me sometimes, then I met an intp which at the time I wasn’t that into MBTI so I didn’t know right away l, it wasn’t perfect ofc but compared to anyone else I knew I definitely could be more of myself with them. Now that I know about the cognitive functions and seen new communities I know that well at least there are others somewhat like me and those who can vibe with me. I think being able to express Ni can be done most closely through creation, I never been the artistic type as I been a more math and science kid growing up tho I found art neat, so using my more technical side to create things I decided that I want to create video games one day to express Ni, I would have to better my music composition skills and my art skills still but it’s a nice thing to work towards too. I majored in Computer Engineering and i also like creating robots and the creativity and logic that goes into starting from a thought concept and making it a reality from utilizing what I learned. So I am happy I chose that major (also helped with my programming skills for video games). Now I am working toward stability and then being able to express Ni by making video games as a hobby.
I'm glad to hear that you found your way! What's the title of that game btw that you mentioned early in your comment?
Name of the video game series?
INTJ - I noticed at a family dinner last night that I had so much Ni work done on a question I was asked that I had no idea how to condense it into an understandable form so I just explained the starting point of the thought which I was already lightyears away from.
Learning how to dumb things down took me decades to master and I feel like I still got a long way to go 😅
'Walking down the street, passing by a million people but not remembering a single face'. Wait, other types remembering those faces? 😅
I swear my boy remembers the face of every lady that we walk by 😂
ISFJs remember.
Probably :-).
But they won't remember meaningful things.
Great video! I sent it to my INTJ friend to explain how her cognitive functions work (I wasn't very good at explaining them, since Ni is very foreign to me as an INFP).
The only point I disagree with you on is the idea that feeling doms automatically have people who will empathize or understand them. I think that feeler-sensors might have this experience, but feeler-intuitives have a similar experience that Inutitive doms like INFJ and INTJ have. Because INFP's have Fi first and Ne second, also get lost in our own world, especially surrounding feelings, past experiences, and the potential of people and society. We don't feel like we belong to the world, only having Te as our tether to physical reality - our weakest function. We have a hard time explaining ourselves and our decisions to other people, etc., etc. Our Fi is so strong and so nuanced, that we often feel like no one can understand how we actually feel in all its complexity (despite our best efforts), so we more often just keep things to ourselves. Our Ne dreams feel so far out of reach, and we get frustrated with ourselves for not being able to "do" things the same way Te doms or aux can. It can be a very lonely existence, and probably why INFP's tend to feel a lot of depression in life (and our Fi let's us know right away that its depression).
All this to say, you're not alone INTJ's and INFJ's. We INFP's, ENFP's, and ENFJ's feel you. Let's keep exploring the colourful, vibrant, starlit wonders of Intuition together and bring them into the sun. The world needs people who can ❤❤
I hope my video helps your friend understand Ni a bit better! I agree that INFPs have just as difficult of a time (if not more) than INTJs when it comes down to being part of reality. I believe all introverted types feel that way, it's just different. What I noticed is that INFPs are more appreciated in society i.e have more friends, invited to more gathering, are talked in a more positive manner outside of the MBTI community that thinks all you guys do is go into a corner an cry all day. INFPs, ENFPs, and ENFJs are some of the best ❤
@@justcallmejon22 Hi Jon, thanks for your reply! You last comment made me laugh so hard lol
I understand more of what you mean now. Yes, I find that feelers, in general, tend to be thought of more positively in society and more actively included in social situations (though often times it feels superficial). Thinkers have a much harder time being part of the social atmosphere of society, often being harshly judged as antisocial or not needing people at all (which is absolutely not true).
Having healthy types describe their unique experiences and challenges, like you and your channel, really helps to bridge the gap and clarify the misunderstandings and toxic misinformation out there in the MBTI community. Like the stupid ignorant ideas that INTJ's are heartless robots or INFP's are weak crybabies.
Keep up the good work!
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The losing track of time bit is definitely true, I started writing a journal and sometimes I just forget to write in it and one time I thought that it was just one day I missed, but in reality it was 3 days that just because it was the holidays and I didn't have a set schedule for doing certain things I just got lost in thought for days and it's not like I just thought the whole time I was writing poems watching UA-cam and Netflix for hours and played Badminton and went outside in that time but the only thing that remained was thought a eairy feeling of what I thought a blurry memory of the scenarios and possible outcomes that I thought of. They do still help me make decision because my opinions and thought about people change through them but it's just really scary noticing that cometimes my view of a person completely shifts without me even rembering why but just feeling like I made a good and logical decision to feel and think a certain way without knowing why I do so. It's honestly frightening and doesn't make sense for people without Ni but it makes sense to me somehow. I do find myself sometimes remembering those kinds of thoughts through my poems but I still can't remember how I came to some of the conclusions I came to just that I think they're correct.
Does reality really exist?! 😂
INFJ here… untill now I didn’t know about the other personalities thank you for introducing me to the I NTJ! Where can I meet one? LOL #ForReal
There's 16 in total, go collect them all 😂
Thank you so much for sharing man. I’m an INFJ and you have made me cry a few times because I feel understood by you. Top video. Thanks for your understanding and your generosity in sharing with us. Truly means the world, in all it’s possible eventualities.
You're not alone my INFJ sibling, never forget that 🙂
I often say to my friends, "all I have to do is blink 7 times, and the year 2030 is now upon us," and they snicker at me because I offer that information in a comedic way. But it's technically true to me as an INTJ. We can get lost track of time.
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Yes this is how my 33 yr old self woke up suddenly one morning and found I was 75....
You bring tears to my eyes with your clear explanations.
Ditto 😢
This is my second recording of the video because I thought the first video was too emotional 🙃
INTJ and INFJ are seeking different states though. INFJ's are not helping to fix issues really as much as come to a consensus or understand how others feel. Your description of INTJ is not 100% true either as it makes us sound like gods, narcissists, or we are trying to manipulate others. INTJ's like to learn and to learn one must recognize when they are wrong. If you are constantly pushing your idea and thinking it's the best? You may be an INTJ, but you are also very full of yourself and kind of ignorant. We are not geniuses who know everything -nobody is. When I worked in research I did have a LOT of ideas for research or to build specialized equipment for testing which was difficult to do by traditional methods, but I would often pitch these and be told I was wrong and why I was wrong. Sometimes I would pitch and years of past methodology would be scrapped overnight because of my ideas.
Nobody has called me crazy, but people probably do believe you are argumentative if you are an INFJ or INTJ because we will ask a lot of questions.
I'm not trying to be rude but the video addressed everything you mentioned in your comment. We aren't gods or can see the future, but we do have a superpower that other's don't.
Definitely agree that the rest of our functions 'support' Ni to make our dreams into reality but it is also important to remember that dreams don't have to be big or grand. When we're off in our Ni world it may look to an outsider like day-dreaming. But quantum mechanics (through entanglement, observation, and entrainment) provides explanation how our focused intent does, in fact, create the future. I may not *consciously* know that I'm sorting variables and creating a desired outcome but I've lost count of instances of deja vu in my life and it is not deja vu of something from my past that I've forgotten and reexperiencing; it's physically experiencing for the first time something that I intuitively experienced in the past.
Well said my brotha ✊
Im an INFJ and this is insanely true. Great job telling it how it is
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I thought I was low IQ for years, because of all the Ni things you described after 9:00 mark. Both my parents were sensors. It took years to figure out my strengths.
If it makes you feel any better, I still think I'm low IQ 🙃
one thing i’ve never heard said is that Ni, for me at least, is drug like. It’s a coping mechanism. It has positives. But it’s also an escape hatch.
That's an interesting take. Since I can't imagine life without Ni, it feels like sobriety to me 😂
One of the best thing that can happen to all INTJs is finding this youtube channel and having enough attention span to focus on everything you say without going on tangent in their own thoughts.
Too much Fe I can't handle the compliment 😅
@@justcallmejon22Hey, nice explanation buy would you please give some Se examples? It would be beneficial if you provide some high level problem. As at low level even Se people are converting variables into constants. So having some Ni hard level difficulty Se example will give us some reality check and some direction to work towards ❤
thank you for this video, as an intj i have been thinking a lot about these things but not able to describe them or understand them. i find one quote from doctor who a really good insight to how we think and process. "I don't have a ton of plans, i just haft to chose one.
Ni vs Ne in a nutshell 😂
Thank you Jon. My brain felt like it just got a hug. It can be so much fun just to do deep dives in our heads, but the present, physical reality hits us at the same time. Sometimes my brain just goes so fast in so many directions, just to realize I have not moved my physical body or sometimes even forget to breathe. It can be so difficult to be around friends who always want to "live in the moment" so I get drained. I've often voiced out things I thought that will happen and most of the time the outcome that I've said, whether good or bad, ends up happening. However, it does get lonely at times when you know you always try to understand others but no one really gets you or tries to understand you.
The fact that we cannot turn it off makes me wish there was a pill that shuts off my brain's intuition. But I also don't want to lose this ability and would not think I'm better off without it. It really is a PARADOX.
I understand the feeling of wanting to turn Ni off so I definitely empathize with your comment. It really is a paradox because Ni is really what makes us unique and sometimes I wonder what/who I would be if I didn't have Ni. Always fun to imagine but it's usually a lesser version of my real self 🙃
🥺as much as I needed this…it HURT…but also, EVERYTHING!
Ni is lonely, but I promise you that you're not alone in that feeling ✊
I almost cried at the end. I see you and i feel you my fellow. I know that world you are in.
Infj.
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9:28 - Wow, that really resonates with me. When I was young, I suffered from asthma. My mom didn't allow me to skip classes, even when my symptoms were severe. The solution? Medication. But I ended up taking too much of it. I made it through high school entirely dependent on asthma medicine. And you know what? That was the only time I never procrastinated. I'm an INTJ by the way.
As an INFJ you put exactly how I feel into words. I haven’t been able to put this into words or express how I feel so clearly as you have in such a short video. Thank you for making this video-I really appreciate you sharing this with everyone. My heart goes out to you with how you feel, I’m sending you comforting vibes and it’s okay to feel how you feel. Because if you were any other type you wouldn’t be able to help INTJs and INFJs like you are now. The world would be a different place without you, you’re important and you are making a difference. Sending you good vibes.🌻
Thank you! So much Fe I'm not sure how to fully feel about it 🙃
I am trying to type my friend who i always believed is an intj because he is always obsessed with things like religion topics, what is the end of the world, etc. And he had mentioned that he is aware of things that people don't usually see and he talks about how he feels like an outcast in this world. Yesterday, I briefly told him about MBTI. He said he have done those tests and the result was istj, so I asked him questions about Ni, saying do you sometimes see some kind of 'image' in your head? But he said no, he said he is not imaginative. And I asked do you like to keep traditions or do new things? And for that he say he likes to keep things moving.
He also has this tendency to pay relatively little attention to the environment surrounding him. He mentioned before he don't understand the joy in just eating good food, shopping etc (basically sensory activities). However he's profession is Music.
I'm like super confused now 😂😭😵💫 Is he a intj or istj?
ISTJ and INTJ look very similar on the outside because we share the same two middle cognitive functions in the same order. Learn more about the difference between Ni and Si and it should become clear. It's not about thinking about the future persay, it's more the process we take to arrive to our conclusion because Si users do consider the future and Ni users do care about certain traditions. We both have Te as our second function so efficiency in food and tradition in doing certain things are important to us because it's the most efficient. Good luck on your journey in typing him ✊
I'm questioning whether I was typed correctly as an INTJ because I like to talk to people, but only: a) To learn new things b) To talk about my favorite subjects and future possibilities c) If my gut tells me that the person I'm talking to is someone who partially understands me. Nevertheless, I get my energy from spending time alone, social gatherings that go over 2,5 hours drain me like squeezing a lemon to make a lemonade.
When reading my law textbooks, my mind processes the information I acquired instantly, guessing already "how the story continues", and often times, I am right. I zone out at least 657 times every day, so that the people who are around me tell me to wake up or snap back, because I'm constantly contemplating future scenarios or synthetizing what information I've acquired. I also have terrible short term memory, but I'll remember what you said 15 years ago for example. Despite me being relatively talkative, I'm still socially awkward with little understanding of the emotional signals people, but I think I can read body language fairly well. Also, I plan everything and spending time with spontaneous people makes me extremely anxious, because I need to feed my (I guess Ni?) with input so it can spit out the best way to approach planning a trip, buying a bicycle, doing some task etc. Finally, even though I recognise patterns everywhere, especially in languages, I find it hard to express myself without rewriting or reevaluating every sentence. I feel deeply misunderstood and nobody really knows me, even though I have a small friend group, who I love and appreciate, but I always hang out only with 1 or max 2 people at a time. Even this is draining over 2,5 hours.
I would be thankful, if you could share your thoughts what I wrote.
I wish to thank you from the core of my heart for your final words, it described my dreams and goals so well.
"Most of the time we can't engage with this function unless we out effort into it"
SO TRUE
It's a struggle 😅
You just romanticized Ni to me, and I feel as though I do get it.
I’m INFP. I’ve taken a test that says I’m high Fi and high Fe as well as high Ne and high Ni. Ofc, highest in Fi and Ne. No idea how effective and accurate that test is, though.
But I was just thinking minutes before I watched this video how I can see the future based on enough variables. I can make often quick predictions based on certain variables and see imagery in my mind’s eye how it would play out.
And I relate to asking questions to understand my variables to draw an outcome.
I often get sad about my relationship I had with my ex-bf because I could see how happy and fulfilled we would have been had he not done certain things out of insecurity. It plays like a movie. Staying would have enabled him to just abuse my forgiveness as I wouldn’t be able to uphold boundaries because he couldn’t respect them. So my only option was to leave and abandon us because his poor choices made it impossible to peacefully coexist.
I’m so curious to deep-dive this Ni.
I'm sad to hear about your relationship not working out but I'm happy to hear that you're sticking to the bounderies that you set for yourself. I made a deep dive video on Ni so take a look if you haven't seen it yet, it should provide more insights on what it means to have Ni: ua-cam.com/video/Lg5xW8S9RsA/v-deo.html
"Time dilation" for INTJ is really weird. Sometimes I can sit and think about something "for hours", only to find out a few minutes passed. Sometimes I read something "for a sec" and that moment takes hours (or whole day).
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I love how you explain the NI. You totally get me, it’s like you took a trip in my head. Lol. I only found out I’m an INFJ a few years ago. This is the first time I’ve heard someone verbalize the real life process in such a down to earth way. Video is totally awesome, examples are easy for me to follow and fun to listen to.
I'm happy to hear that you found MBTI! It really does provide clarity on topics that aren't normally discussed 🙃
Although people think INFJ are people focussed and INTJ technology focussed, it’s not as simple as that. INFJ have Ti rather than Te as in INTJ. This is better for new ideas.
I’ve never ever ever ever.. felt so seen. This video is invaluable. I’ve already shared it twice and I’m about to watch it again. THANK YOU!!! -infj
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Oh my god! When you gave the examples I literally have done most of not all of these. At the gym I’m constantly losing track of how many sets I’ve done. Or miss count the reps in my current set. Even when I’m physically exerting to the limit I’m in my head.
INFJ here. this has to be the best Ni explanation i've seen so far. i'm utterly speechless, very well done!
Thank you 🙏
Bro, I actually forget to eat most of the time if I am super focused on a project of my interest. (Happens most of the time when I'm coding)
Since i don't use Ni i needed to do a bit more with my imagination to truly understand what's going on here... Ni is like converging and Ne is like- diverging... you just gave me Sherlock Holmes feel there. It feels like my Ne only delivers variables and only that which tells what can happen rather than what might happen.... Ni way of narrowing down the possibilities is very awesome. And the manipulation part? Well no wonder why you guys are called Strategists....... INTJ living in future is somewhat like INFP living in our head... so i can’t relate with the practicality of it but i do know the "losing the track of time" part.... and i think i don't know how the reality Ni create looks like but i know the imagination of an INFP and it's beautiful- and i think the satisfaction i get from it is something Ni dom might feel but then comes the uncontrollable factors... while i think it was quite easy for me to believe that i can’t do anything to flip it INTJ might actually feel like... like if they had all the chess pieces in their hands things could have different- better. I think imagination is the only thread keeping me connected with your words (and world) being an Fi i always things in a depth words can’t fathom.. it feels like there is no way of actual expression and eventually the will to express dies. And we feel like our emotions is our own to deal with.. in that sense i feel lonely so yeah "i don't exactly know how but i can correlate"
I would never dare say that INTJ are overthinking if you put it like that (even if you don’t i am the last person to have the right to say that). I think sometimes it’s better to live in your head but you guys have the potential to make it a reality and salute you for that very quality!❤❤
You're doing a fantastic job of relating to Ni-doms! Everything is really just in our head and similar to how Fi-doms are able to access emotions that most people can't fathom, Ni users imagine realities that most people will never be aware of. It's a bittersweet feeling but the beauty of being an INTJ is that we'll never stop trying to create the reality that we believe to be the best for ourselves or the ones we love 🙂
@justcallmejon22I think i get that "bittersweet" and it is kind of poetic of you to say that "people will never be aware of" .... you guys are trying to narrow down stuff to the point where your utopia may come in existence..... I kind of can imagine it because when i see tiny conflicts , any heated arguement- whatever that exist can be adjusted through a bit more.. understanding? here and there.. but that always ends with, "if they would try to understand"... my cousin told me i can adjust with people who, let's say, are pessimistic and "endure" it well.... point is i just empathize with what's going on in their heads and there is never an "altercation that leads to divisions " or whatever... the harmonious environment that i envision- "if they would think that way" is kind of like yours "if they would do that way" as i comprehend it- like you guys might manipulate and make it happen but even you guys can't control each variable... but like you said we would never stop and may we never stop.
My Ni creates lucid dreams so real like that i can feel pain. Then i wake up and i can still feel the pain. No it wasn't cuz i slept on my hand and it went numb. In the dream a child slapped me across the face. I also deal with my emotions in my dreams. like how in a dream my mom was there i was pulling nails 2 inches long out of my left shoulder then very bluntly and non sugar coated if you hurt me again i will kill you. I woke up soon after. I had this dream when i was in 7th grade.
I can't even express how much I am grateful for this video 🙏 it's like you read my mind. I always thought that being like this was a blessing and a curse. Lonely and misunderstood but never bored in my head. Wow, my favourite director is Nolan too😊 yes, I lost tracks of how many times I missed my spot or didn't remember how I got to the place or something like that. So agree about the reason behind this constant questioning. Moreover, I am so in love with multiple universe theory just because I live in it every moment of my life. Thank you again for this! It really helped me feel less like a lunatic
I know Nolan is an INxJ because time doesn't exist in most of his videos and I love it! It's so abstract and it's always interesting hearing my Sensor friends provide their opinions about the movie because then I realize that what's obvious for us goes over their head. He is a treasure for us Ni types 😁
That is probably one of the best explanations of how my intuition works. It took my a long time to understand my own mind (and still not done^^). Because I'm just this way, I know things and often I wasn't even sure why. But how to explain this to others? Especially in school/science where the order seems directly opposite to how our own minds work (and we are not aware...).
Agreed, it's hard to show our work especially because we're not even sure ourselves sometimes how we got there 😅
Joyce Meng was doing a video on the so-called "Mastermind" tag the other day. I think it does us more harm than good: now INTJ has become some kind of mythical type that's supposedly better than the others (it's not), and if you're an INTJ, it's almost as if someone wants you to prove it. There are plenty of INTJs who aren't always doing well in life, and are down on their luck and struggling. But how is that possible if you're a "mastermind"? ;-)
Agreed that the term Mastermind needs to go. Joyce is an INFJ Queen and I watch a lot of her videos especially the ones on INTJs. I learned a lot from the videos but I also noticed how some of the people she brings on perpetuates stereotypes whether harmful or not. The more you know the more you become I guess 😅
So many times I'll be bleeding from a cut I didn't know I had until someone points it out. I've gone days without food or water and wonder why I have a headache or the shakes and feel weak.
Idk. I am an intp but have strong Ni for sure. Like focusing through most probable way to achieve single future goal if that's what it means Ni, personal desire on the future. As Ti-Ni user, for sure not a sensor, i typed Lii sometime Ili on socionics, maybe Ti-Ne better suits (Lii). I don't care, but when eventually we walk through journey that no one sees and focus on, we end up feel lonely. But it's fine (coping mechanism).
At least my point is, i feel at some degree, the same. Well, let's enjoy the journey though😊. If we Ni-ing for better good and good faith or good consideration that can lift our feeling, let's just go.
I hope intjs feeling is good. I can't handle feeling either actually.
I also have 2 infj friends actually. 1 always looks sad now because feeling not in the right place and time. I only could help him with fact that he is rare as Ni dom, so it makes sense. That's why he need to adapt accordingly.
Infj live healthily in community, i hope best for him.
The best thing you can do for your INFJ friend is to listen to him and give him a safe space to voice his thoughts. We already don't feel human and it gets worse when we feel alone on this planet. Thank you for being a good friend to my fellow Ni-dom brother ✊
10:00 - for me it's the shower. "did i just entered or did i already took it? focusss maaan". I'm pretty confident i washed myself twice a lot cuz of that. -.-
So relatable 😂
Thank you! This is the best description of Ni I've found so far, and I've done a lot of searching. At one point, you mentioned Ne as being similar, and yes, as an ENFP, Ne gets it. We're aliens from yet another planet. Also, personally, I think my time lapses are generally shorter than those of Ni users, with a much broader range of possibilities, but they don't go anywhere near as deep.
I definitely seen Ne get lost multiple times in one conversation. Sometimes I know I'm just talking to your shell but I know that you'll be back soon 😂
@@justcallmejon22 Talking to the shell is fine. Once it's finished, I can usually play back whatever was said during that time lapse, and then respond to it. Maybe a benefit of Ne being external, one of the possibilities I'm seeing is reality where you're talking. Or.. I'm not sure how it works, maybe it is just a part of Ne, but I seem to have some form of parallel processing. I was observing myself reading a book the other day because I was curious about what I was doing when I was reading, where my eyes were focusing, whether I was reading line by line, etc., so I.. split my focus somehow and observed myself. I tried to comment on it to a family member as I was doing it, though, and my words came out as garbage, so that was just too much. 😆
Best explanation for Ni-Ti loops, it's so frustrating because we know that we're overthinking it but can't help it and hold ourselves back. Also, drugs/alcohol to be present..yup lol.
I don't know how INFJs function without Te. I actually have more respect for you guys when you get stuff done knowing how difficult it is to get motivated or just to start 😂
I’m an INTJ (though I think nobody including myself should be confident saying that) and having Ni is extremely less cool and complicated as you make it out to be. We don’t want to expand our intuition. So much so that Ni often just sticks to one prediction and does the most it can to make it happen. Ni definitely doesn’t look through every possibility, it is a waste of time to do so.
How do you know you're making the optimal decision if you're not looking at all possible likely conclusions?
Im an INTJ (though I think nobody including myself should be confident saying that) and this is just wrong bro.
Jon already handled you, but I'll bite.
INTJ's respect data. You should know this. Ni deals with a meta perspective. Data and perspectives are constantly shifting... Ni hates uncertainty. You saying it doesn't look at (consider is a better term to use here) other possibilities and that it's a waste of time is just false and reeks of ignorance. INJ's are some of the most paranoid fellas out there. Expanding ones intuition will bring a more holistic perspective; thus reducing uncertainty. You need to get educated before you try to shut someone else down.
As an INFJ, this is the single most resonant description of that function I have heard. Every point was so exact. It feels just like that. People will refer others to me for life advice, but others often resent the suggestion. I noticed early on those people willing to listen to try the things I suggested ended up happier and closer to their goals because I listen to what they want for themselves and envision the steps that will move them toward that outcome. I think of my capacity to do this like chess, that idea in "Searching for Bobby Fisher" of thinking twelve moves ahead.
Trying to explain all of the steps and considerations that went into the suggestion would wear the listener out long before I finished.
and most of the time, we're not even sure ourselves how we arrived to our conclusions! INTJs understand your Ni very well INFJ and it really is a refreshing feeling when we meet another Ni dom. Keep helping people INFJ, INTJs will continue to try to fix the system while you guys continue to heal the world. ✊
Sometimes I don't even feel like Ne is described as well as it could be and it's my own second function! Even having it myself, it took a while to realize the similarity to Se and just how *in the moment* Ne is despite the fact that it leads to so much daydreaming and physical obliviousness. So, thanks for this since Ni is something I really can't imagine as well! Even Si is easier to describe for me because it's the fun file cabinet where I pull out facts, examples, and experiences that I can then play like cards in a Magic: The Gathering or Yu-Gi-Oh game to play in a given situation.
I plan on making a video on Ne eventually but I will say that it's still difficult for me to ELI5. Personally, I can see it but can't put it in words yet 😆
@@justcallmejon22 I think the idea of a “disembodied” Se that sees or hears a thing and immediately plays free association or opens the Si drawer to grab other comparisons may help. It’s just that you go from stimulus to internal rabbit hole instead of from stimulus to external sensory response.
@@justcallmejon22 And just to make things even more fun for you, imagine Ne and Te running simultaneously. This probably explains one of the ways that sometimes my mom (ESTJ) and I can get on my ENTJ dad’s nerves. 🤣 Ne+Te will snap out a response REALLY fast.
(Though it offers an interesting perspective for me in that in my mom, an extremely well balanced ESTJ with all four functions really honed, I get to watch the same functions I have run in reverse in her. We’ll be chatting and while she’s quite logical, she’ll make the same kind of sudden “sideways slip” that leads to a really unexpected joke or some shift to a new topic that my dad finds completely illogical but makes perfect sense to us. People think ESTJs are hidebound but MAN can an ENTJ be relentlessly linear in their thinking to a fault! 🤣)
Haven't watched your videos in awhile. I forgot how good you are at this.
Watching this for me must be what it's like women seem to feel when they listen to Taylor Swift lyrics.
The part about loneliness and the explanation why is one of resonatingly-powerful things I've ever heard. Really.
Yes, I decided to go with "resonatingly-powerful" including a word that doesn't exist after immediately considering 6 different iterations and the 11 ways each of them would come across differently.
All while being in tears.
You guys really are the most interesting type out there 😀
We're not alone in the realm of ideas, when others expand upon and agree with an idea. But also, other type that you would think are not so alone end up all being alone or lonely in their own ways too. Look real in depth between an Fe user and a Te user, and at the values they are coming from which are not even seen by the other side sometimes. It's so confusing because they think they connect, but at that deeper level, there is no integration of their thoughts with the other, just a disassembly and a changing into one's own thoughts. This isn't just on the Te side, it's very much and perhaps in our society even more so on the Fe side. I've watched so much good get disassembled by Thinkers into something bad because they wouldn't even let me communicate it to them as it is.
But hey, we're all alone together.
I agree that every type feels inhereant lonely and I like how you broke down how the Te and Fe users feels loneliness. As sarcastic as it might've sounded, you're right that we're all alone together 😂
11:41 man this hits deep. it's just sad that I put a tremendous effort for someone to understand me to the extend that I'll just say flat out that I'm an intj and they can just do research about it yet they didn't even bother checking what an intj is and they just judge me right away coz i'm different and they just fail to understand me as a person.
People can only understand you as much as they understand themselves.
I've always made the mistake of basically writing up a whole paper with citations to explain what I'm talking about and I've only recently started paying attention to how ppl are treating me in specific words or thought vs feelings/vibes/abstract uncomfortablility (is that a word? Idk) and the two ppl I was most attached to literally dissociate before I finish a sentence and then start talking like it's a whole new conversation once I shut up if they wait that long. Like I'm just there to give them answers to their problems and they prefer them in as few words as possible. A sounding board maybe. Lots of epiphanies this last year. Not nice ones, bittersweet maybe. I'm really happy for them, written directions to the light at the end of the tunnel :)
Oh, additionally i have this repeating experience of these same folks putting my ideas/thoughts down and 3mo-1year later are starting new (in their mind) practices, exploring new topics, explaining a concept to someone else and I'm just observing like "whaaaaaat? Excuse uhhhhh me?" didn't you completely dismiss, or worse, this exact thing when I was sharing? The Inception comparison was perfect.
What I'm hearing is that the people in your life are actually listening to you if they're incoportating it into their lives....whether they arrived to the conclusion themselves or not 😂
As an INFJ I tend to use Deku’s method of “the microwave” explanation when it comes to NI and if that doesn’t work, I’ll use the picture method. The microwave method helps the non-NI dom person visualize a microwave being on which then makes them know that something will happen before the microwave starts beeping, this would also give them a weird feeling too, similar to anticipation or anxiety before the imagined microwave beeps. Once they do all that, they would understand (briefly) what I mean by “knowing” situations before they happen. This usually takes seconds too and they are surprised about how fast it was but to them it felt forever doing that one technique (which is prob why We INFJs and INTJs have time distortion issues 😂). I also think that it’s pretty cool that INTJS use their NI differently than INFJs since we tend to put other ppls emotions into consideration when making these NI decisions.
That's a really good way to explain Ni! I'm going to text it next time I'm around Si-doms 😂
For long time I was very sceptical about MBTI, cuz I couldn't find my type. But since I found an INTJ type I feel like fanatic, cuz I learn a lot about this system and INTJ, it's so scaring similar with me. I always tell myself: "this is not a science, how can it be so true? I have no proofs" I'm almost resigned that no one trust MBTI disputes me.
Welcome to the community! Don't forget that MBTI is only a tool for self-discovery and shouldn't be used as your identity. In regards to your question about science, emotions are illogical, so to approach with the same mentality as math will lead to a lot of dead ends 🙂
Why is memory such a problem for INTJ’s? Is it very common? I forget some important stuff even when I put extra effort into remembering it. But remember random insignificant things from so many years ago. What’s this about?? 🤷🏽♂️
That's Mama Te at work. Te filters out data and only remembers things that are relevant to what our goal is at that time. Having Se in our last slot makes it easy for us to lose track of time (external world) so combine that will only remember certain things makes us forget so easily 😂
Something that I kind of realized lately, and it's the reason why I got really addicted to eating edibles, is that for Ni doms, typically speaking, when we get high, it's a lot easier for us to get into our bodies and out of our heads. It's almost as if though THC brings us down to Earth. Whereas for pretty much everyone else, they enter our realm of being in their heads and out of their bodies. And this realization is what lead to me understand why I could never relate to when people would say they feel a head high when on edibles or while smoking. It's also the reason why I get so paranoid if I have too much. I'm more aware of myself and my surroundings when typically I'm very unaware. I suddenly feel so alive. And when you're not used to that, it can be very scary.
I said something similar in another video where taking substances makes me feel more human. I've been wanting to make an educational video about susbstance use and you stating it makes me consider making it more ✊
I don't agree with the title. Being alone and lonely are different. I'm ALWAYS alone, but NEVER lonely.
I'm alone and lonely 🙃
Good video. Yes it’s very lonely. We can see what others can’t.
It's a sad reality, but I'm used to it now 😊
As an INTP w developed Ni (Ni scores as high as Ti and Ne), I get most of the stuffs you said. Like you stressed over over, words arent enough to explain this function. Some points like 0:19 time distortion 0:32 seeing vision more than reality 0:41 minds first then body second is how I operate most time 😂 5:08 thinking about multiple realities are funstuffs 9:46 a lot of INTPs are like this too, losing track of time is common
Some other points that are different would be 2:25 I dont feel like Ni is my imagination entirely. Its mixture of different factors 3:18 absolutes are hard for me, I'm mostly a Maybe person even after making decision I'm sure of 4:32 Physics was my best subject 😂 my worst was Chemistry
11:17 the problem is not that others dont listen. Even when we share some stuffs in the most clearest explaination, other types cant understand intuitives communication. I wont say they refused us, just that its harder for them to grasp stuffs like intuition which is very personal experience
What I've gathered talking to my INTPs is that INTPs feel like humans but feel outcasted because ya'll aren't sure what to do to fit in. For INTJs, reality is an option 😅
It’s a pain to explain for other people about my vision. They don’t even have interest and patience to listen. 😂 I guess my hobby is minor.
But then people lie to the test to be called as INTJ. Such a joke. Before MBTI I were still me, after MBTI I am still me. INTJs don’t lie to be called special. They don’t even think themselves “special”. 😂
I think actually INTJs don't see the glamour in being an INTJ because we don't only see the strenghts but feel the depth of our weaknesses. I appreciate that you're not using MBTI as your identity ✊
Best INTJ channel on youtube.
10:27 This is way too accurate. I was eating while watching this video and didn't pay any attention to how the food tasted...
I hate that especially when I spent money on the food 😂
Oh my, I don’t know anything about Ni and such, thought I would take a listen. I am commenting, because I think something of what you have said near the start has stood out. When I took the Briggs Meyer decades ago at the technical college it came out INTJ. I was able to assess by lifting the hard copy that I was one point off from being an INFJ. I don’t know if that correlates or not.?
Both the INTJ and INFJ are dominate Ni-users. Read about the different cognitive functions between both types and you should be able to narrow down which type you are 🙂
Im grateful i found this video. Im ESFP and i understand im literally a stupid person just using my Se and Fi. Can you please share Ni in more detail or with examples which we beginner's can adapt? Cause as Se person it feels like from where should i start. Please it would be helpful ❤❤
Happy to hear that you're focusing on your lower function! The easiest way to start engaging with Ni is to just start asking why about something and list out all possible reasons. Once you're doing with your reasons, search online for other people's reasons. What you'll find is that the answers you had is probably only a small portion of the answer and that in order to fully understand 'why' you'd have to start considering other answers. Keep repeating that proess until you get to a definitiive answer or if the answer doesn't exist. That's the most basic approach that Ni doms take and we do it naturally at this point. Good luck but most importantly, enjoy the jouney!
I experience my Ni as a warehouse filled with filing cabinets and the Se data is the papers. The papers are flying around the warehouse ala Harry Potter style being filed, refiled and sorted based on the patterns and connections and then when I need an answer the correct file lights up like a quest item in a video game and I grab it saying "this is my conclusion". I then need some time to back track to realize how I came to the conclusion. Usually talking it through to my INFJ mom, and as im telling her my conclusion, the process unfolds right in front of my eyes and the logic is clear to both of us.
That's a great analogy and I've described Ni similarly as well. The only difference is that I add call it the DMV because everyone hates the DMV and I enjoy people's reactions 😂
For me it's not that strange, it's just connect-the-dots. It's funny how you mention that Ni types will manipulate people into thinking they're the ones who thought of something. I spend a lot of time thinking how to word concepts in a way that would make them seem "obvious" to others. I'm not really trying to manipulate people, just trying to dumb things down to their level, though I sometimes think "crap I hope I didn't brainwash him with nonsense" afterwards...
It you feel lonely and detached from the world, well here's my conclusion of the world. First you have to consider that our range of senses and even morality is determined by biology. For example, an octopus Cannot develop a moral system where each child is cared for and can grow up, reproduce and die of old age. This biologically cannot be, because they have so many babies that their numbers would explode if they were to all survive. Meanwhile, the range of biology is determined by the range of environments, which itself is the outcome of the history of the universe. From another end, civilizations are often the results of geographies, so even the "nurture" component of humans is determined by the history of the physical world. An advanced enough civilization could take a look at our civilization and determine the rough composition of the planet, what sort of geographical features there were etc.
In other words, what a single human consciousness is, is a manifestation of the history of the Earth, and more generally of the Universe. It is the world's history gaining consciousness of itself, and then looking at its own future. We are icebergs who don't realize we're extensions of the sea, and destined to become part of the sea once again.
So, if you don't feel anchored to This particular time, it's not strange at all, you're made up of billions of years of history, no reason your awareness must be stuck in just one figment of time.
Besides, being present is overrated. I tried meditation for a while, and I felt great at first, then I walked through a busy commercial street and got a major dose of sensory overload, after which I stopped meditating in a hurry. Eff that, my own mind is much cozier.
Thank you for your response! It oddly aligns with one of my favorite quotes (paraphrasing) "Humans are carbon-based lifeforms and carbon is a result of an exploding star. Therefore, all humans are stars." It puts into perspective that we're all the same and unique in a sense and that makes me feel grounded when I go into full-on Ni-nerd mode 😂
Not recognising someone you know who is right in front of you is facts. - Ni Dom user XD
I've described it as feeling as though I'm a disembodied consciousness that happens to be inhabiting a body. I've never heard anyone else express feeling this way. So uh...thanks
I got you ✊
Introverted Thinking makes us aware of a situation's many variables. When we use it, we recognize our power, as individuals, to exploit some variables at the expense of others to exert some effect on its logical outcome.
And it helps to recognize, in the midst of action, which variables are best taken into account and which are irrelevant to our goal.
I think it could work well with Ni which is good at predicting the ouctome when changing one variable in a situation 🤔
Ti & Ni pairing is easily one of the strongest pairing if we're both motivated ✊
INFJ here - I have been blessed with a great INTJ brother, who can tell me when it is time and okay to stop feeling/caring so much! Also with a great ENFJ best friend, who can use her energy to deal with the crazies out there!
I'm sure your brother and best friend are just as happy to have you in their lives 😊
This is great video. Never felt more understood. It's just hard to explain how your mind works. You get deeper and deeper, like living on a trance all the time. I had phases too when I hoped I could get myself out of slump. Getting over things easily as it is. Getting comfortable when things don't go as planned (years planning). Getting stuck into Ni-Ti over and over when I thought I was right and things still go wrong and it ended up changing people dynamics, destroyed relationships. It's ripple effect in your mind and you will feel responsible for knowing but powerless to prevent it. It sucks. Heck it sucks! Sometimes I wish I do not know. Sometimes I wish I don't see. It's too hard for us to be honest with ourselves, because we question whether it's appropriate, and we hold other people to Fe expectations too, but this time Fi being subtle and not overwhelming is comforting. I'm over emotional consolation, I need things to make sense why it happens for real. I hate the feeling of just accepting things falling apart and having no power to change it.
Thank you for sharing your story, I'm sure there are many other there that can relate. Feeling powerless as your described it is probably one of the worst feelings because it cascades into us examinaing our capabilities and everything else that's involved in it. I will say that I will never give up Ni if I had the chance because I made peace with it a long time ago and have accepted that there will always be pros and cons and life is all about balance. Good luck on your jouney INFJ, you got this ✊
Ni dom here and just wand to say, "I loved your video and thanks for being real."
You're welcome ❤
(infj)I appreciate this video so much. I'm doing a lot of healing work right now and even those that are willing to sit and talk with me about this path just can't really engage in a way that feels like they understand it in the way i do now after 10mo of research, regaining memories, seeing the roots of current issues, anything where somatic work is key for me, etc. i come bk to this video every once in a while kind of for validation that i don't just "think wrong" or "too much/deep" on topics of personal importance. I get a lot of ppl say i "go off on rabbit trails" as well but it's when they dont lete finish weaving the tapestry of the info I'm conveying. It isn't the Ne rabbit trails, it is all focused on making the bigger, universal point. I heard you and Joyce talk about this one time. I have a friend that never actually makes a point or replies to something ive asked by replying in that way (not dissing Ne at all, pretty jelly of it actually, just not in this particular aspect). Anyway thx for making the human side of Ni so viceral. Maybe I'll talk some ppl into listening to it one day and being a bit more patient when i ask questions so that i can complete the assigned task instead of getting caught up trying to not mess it up having less info than needed to feel confident moving forward.
You're not alone in that feeling and I do feel for INFJs since you have Fe and are seeking that companionship. I hope you find someone soon that will listen and validate your feelings. Those people are out there, you just have to find them ❤
ni kinda sucks. knowing how things are most likely going to go without being able to fulfill the burden of proof makes you just seem cocky and arrogant even though you're frequently right. i wish i could shut it off sometimes. infj btw
I understand the struggle ✊
Sometimes I wish I weren't an INTJ. I use to think it were a super power to think big when I am alone. But now, I have too many fractured thoughts. Everything is everywhere, but not here.
You're not alone in that feeling. I felt like I was lost in reality yesterday morning the moment I woke up. Gotta just keep keeping on my friend ✊
... and the deepest, hidden, passionate dream of a pure world...
I thought I was a shit INTJ in the first 5 minutes of the video. I mean it sounds so cool, but I can't recall myself doing something that cool. Something that come close might be how I "see" the future of certain political situation or how I enjoy predicting what my friends are going to say next. But honestly, these are just knowing your history & understanding your friends' personality. It does not sound anything as cool as the video. But in 7:30, I understand the whole thing immediately ...I always try to control the flow of an event or conversation to a certain desired outcome by some subtle moves/subtle changes in words.. I do that so often, I don't even think much about it lmao . I also have zero sense of direction as I just live in my head all the time .......
Yup! Ni is just as natural as breathing for Ni doms so it's difficult to notice. You start noticing it when you're around people and they talk about their own experience with their cognitive functions. We operate so differently from other types 😅
Inspirational, made me wanna cry. It's a blessing and a curse. Life is fair after all~
You're not alone ✊
This shi made me cry
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