Why Grand Theft Auto VI will NEVER work on Mac
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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Thanks, Andrew! If all AAA games on Steam were playable on Mac, the percentage of Mac players on Steam would increase significantly. Apple should make a more concerted effort to persuade game publishers to develop games for the Mac
I don't know about that. It's more than that. Publishers aren't willing to make a mac version due to it's very low gaming population and having more games wouldn't necessarily make that better. Could increase it but I don't think it'll be that big. If apple wants in this industry they will have to pay and convince many PC people that it's worth switching, despite the cost of Mac hardware
@crestofhonor2349, do you know what the most popular gaming platform is right now? iPhone! And when they start making games like Resident Evil 4, Village, or Assassin's Creed cross-platform for iOS macOS in the next 2 to 5 years, everything will change.
@@fistouille23 Mobile gaming is not the same industry. They are not the same thing. It doesn't matter how big mobile gaming is, the type of games most people play on their phone is completely different from what they play on their laptop, desktop, or handheld.
@crestofhonor2349, what about Assassin's Creed: Mirage, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Village, and Death Stranding coming to iPhone 15? They are exactly the same as the desktop versions. This confirms Apple's plans to unify the ecosystem and, at the same time, proves you wrong
@@fistouille23 Those don't prove anything. There have been other AAA games ported to iOS that have changed nothing about it's standing. It proves nothing other than Apple striking a deal with Capcom to bring their games over to iOS and MacOS
If apple were really smart, they'd pay whatever rockstar wanted to get a Tier 1 port made and supported. TBH same thing with CDPR, etc. The amount of money it would take would be pocket change for them.
Yeah, Apple stepping in to bankroll a port is probably the only way it can happen. Rockstar won't do it on their own. They even treat Windows as a second class platform.
I don’t think GTA 6 will be ever released on Apple Silicon, even though I would really like to
not officially but I don't doubt you'll be able to get it on Mac a few days or weeks after the PC version is out. Somewhere in late 2026/27 at this point.
@@alexfvcruz I really hope so
The stats on the Steam Userbase OS aren't quite straightforward. If you're running Steam through crossover you'd be counting as a Windows user, so the Mac percentage might be a bit higher than 1.5% if you factor that in
Yes, plus the "old" intel Mac user base, they either use virtual machines or dual boot to play games. But probably would just play the games on macOS if they were available. I expect the true number to be higher than 1,5%.
I like how mac gamers are "dreaming" and we PC gamers are "waiting".
I hope GTA 6 runs on arm instruction set as future is trending more towards arm including snapdragon x elite release
Would love to see you do an update on Heroic and Crossover.
@Andrew Do you have an updated way to play Genshin on Mac? I'm trying to figure out how to play the PC version for the quality, but I think your other video may be outdated. help?
If apple really wants to push gaming, this game needs a native mac port, or else it will still be lacking of that, with just the crossover way, which is nice to have, but is far away from being the ideal way. Best
You're mentioning Steam survey percentage, but it doesn't include all the mac gamers who play on crossover or parallels
That shouldn't really make that much of a difference. Probably even less than a percentage point
There's a rumor of Windows 12 releasing with ARM support natively, maybe this will mark a return of bootcamp on Mac, that's pretty much the only hope for this game to ever run on Macs. But tbh GTA 6 will make people buy new gaming consoles just for it, that's the power of the biggest entertainment brand in the world.
Those platform user base states are slightly misleading since users playing games on their macs through Parallels or Crossover will also show as being Windows users, since they are HAVING to play Windows versions if a Mac version doesn’t exist.
If it happens, great! And a lot can change in 3-4 years.
But I'm not holding my breath. 😅
For me, the simple answer to this question is NO. Guys, just get a PS5 or an Xbox, it's much cheaper than any gaming PC that will be able to handle GTA VI once it's released for PC.
A used Series S could very well be $100 or less by the time this game releases so it really will be the way to go if you really want to play it. You could even use an Elgato to run it on a laptop display.
Simply not true anymore the PC port isn't coming at launch they already said that it's just coming to current gen console we'll see PC a year later and PC parts have come down enough that you can build a more powerful PC for the same cost as a console now and especially in 2026 when we actually see the PC port
Sucks to be from a third world country Fawking heck I can’t even get a console but I’ll try for gta 6 I have to 😭
PCs are more affordable and the PC will be the best way to experience this game, I’ll wait a year more without any problems.
@@darth_27 Where are you from?
Hey Andrew, any chance you could take a look at Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader which comes out tomorrow?
Have you planned doing vita emulation video? i heard vita3k has mac build
Please do a GTA V Mac tutorial there isn't ANY on UA-cam at all up-to-date
maybe at the time when the PC port comes out. porting it to work well on ARM would be a tough challenge
Thank you.
It’s only possible if Apple decides to make an agreement with Rockstar and invests heavily into the Mac port
Would probably not be a bad investment tbh
That will be a good step to take for Apple if they want to increase the sales of their Macs. if GTA6 is on silicon Mac, people will definitely choose Mac over Windows. The question is, how many people.
Could you test games with Low Power mode for performance and how much battery you would get? (or just what the total system draw is, you can kinda extrapolate from that)
Alternatively, you could run games at maybe Medium ~800p with a frame cap of 60 (or Vsync, but it would go to 120Hz unless you adjust it down)?
Or both. (and maybe a comparison between Pro and Max)
Just wondering how good gaming on battery is, wondering if Macbooks can do a better job than handhelds / APU laptops (if you get good battery you could increase the brightness to make it somewhat usable outdoors, certainly with forced HDR brightness, at the cost of battery and a few $100 more)?
I’m using m1 pro and It runs almost the same when in low power mode and on battery
Is it possible to fix Geometry Shaders in games? I am running a direct x game and some things go black.
This is will be an Announcement on next WWDC , like death stranding & RE: Village
Hey Andrew! You should showcase Warframe. It runs really well on crossover 23.7 with msync now!!! Before it was choppy on my M2 Max .
From what other sources I have heard mentioned the PC version will be coming a year or two after the consul release. Which makes sense because they did the same thing with GTA 5.
By that time. the M5 MacBook Pro will be released.
@@luxurybuzz3681, probably so! 😂
@DenOfTimbs the M5 will probably be as powerful if not more so than RTX 4090
Hi Andrew I’m using Crossover on my M1 Max and I’d like to know if you recommend using the MSync alongside with the D3DMetal? Cause I’ve noticed that the GPU 1,2,3,4 temperatures go up to 85-90 degrees C and the GPU usage goes up to 90% when using Crossover to play Elden Ring (the above stats are from iStat Menu app). I don’t see any graphics on the game (don’t even know how to do it and if it’s possible so). I wouldn’t like to pay for a long period of time and ruin my Mac’s components. Thanks for answering.
Increased GPU usage is normal, as main goal of MSync is to reduce CPU bottleneck - so CPU has more time to process the frame data and GPU has more work to do - less time wasted on waiting and better framerates.
I suggest using Mac Fans Control app when playing games (or any other fan speed control app) - it allows you to set custom temperature target and fans speeds.
thanks very much. So I can switch off MSync since it would put more strain on the GPU, right? (plus I haven’t seen any noticeable improvement using it). I’ll try the app you’ve suggested me. Would you suggest me any temperature and fan speeds that it shouldn’t go above, so I can set it on the app?
@@AntonioMM92 If you see no improvements, you can turn MSync off - however it varies from game to game.
As for fan settings - I'm pretty sure it depends on the model - on my 2021 16-inch Macbook (M1 Max) I use Airport sensor - Minimum temperature 35C, Maximum 50C (for both fans). For my use case it keeps entire laptop nice to the touch, and both CPU and GPU temps around 70C (under load)
@@AntonioMM92i have an M1 and I played Senuas sacrifice at medium settings without msync. With msync on, I am able to play the game at max settings without any fps drops. So maybe it’s depending on games but msync definitely works.
@@humppa5 Yes I know that the MSync works but haven't seen any differences on Elden Ring so since I've been told that it puts more strain on the GPU I won't put it.
When I use steam on crossover that’s going to show up as PC In the steam stats, right?
Andrew, how big chance that in 2026/2027 Microsoft will release ARM Windows for MacOS devices, with x86 games support?
Its likely i think
Maybe the community might have by then too
Another theory: By 2027, Windows on ARM is going to be really good and support all DirectX games. Then will Apple will add bootcamp support and GTA 6 will be fully playable
Looking at Steam's November 2023 stats doesn't say much, as Mac owners that are also AAA gamers know Steam is useless for them as a native gaming app and therefore don't go to there anyways. From those stats it would be more interesting to get how many of those Windows players are CrossOver / Parallels users, but that datum cannot be produced.
Maybe if Apple launch a cheap console like steam deck and people is interested rockstar will make a port for Apple Silicon but is hard to this happen
They have mad ports for iPad of older games so never say never
Can you make a GTA V Mac tutorial then?!?!?!
I think another point is that by developing for Apple silicone Rockstar's true target should be the iPhone market. by 2025 iPhones will be able to run gta6, so will the Mac. Huge user base imo. Basically iPhone should be treated as console platform no different to PS or Xbox.
Yea I agree and if they make it for iPhone then it would be possible for iPad and Mac too. Otherwise cloud gaming is getting heaps better too. Till 2025 or 2027 we might have heaps of improvements in cloud gaming
There is no way an iPhone will be able to run GTA 6 in 2025. They barely put enough ram in it as it is
iphones can run assasins creed @@jamiehoy2320
If a Series S can run this game, then some 2025 Apple hardware should too
only if Apple put their muscles behind it
They even delay the PC version probably with a year or two no way that thhis will run natively on silicon. If you want to experience this "at its fullest" get a ps5 or xbox.
If Apple isn't pounding on Rockstar's door, they need to start.
I think so.
Stray game is out
The answer is that it will be ONLY if Apple wish so to make it happen. At the moment after lots of years and efforts at M1,M2,M3 it is playable GTA V. So to talk about GTA VI it is too early to be discussed. First of all at the first year of the game it shall be available only for consoles, that means that Apple has an extra year to make this happen, and thats a plus. I can make to you another question...what if it shall be available as a game for IPAD, IPHONE and then as with many other apps it might be available to be played in Macbook too as an Ipad App. It is also a quick solution for gamers that wish to learn the map of the game, that shall remain the same either in console, phones, tablets or pc.
And which GPU would you use to play such demanding game? lol
It's going to be on the series S and that GPU isn't that powerful
@@crestofhonor2349 It's working natively on Xbox S though.
I hate the point of "Mac users make up a small percentage of pc gamers". Well maybe that's because there are NO GAMES FOR THE MAC. AND NO I DONT WANT TO PLAY RESIDENT EVIL
It's not just that. Apple themselves have never really catered much to gamers. Apple doesn't care much about gaming and actively makes somethings harder than they should be. Mac has never been a popular gaming platform and it needs more than just game ports to make it more popular. Even Linux is beating it in numbers because it's more friendly to gaming and a more open platform
no the reason gta 5 was delayed was bcs of the development time so for sure it will come to pc
We will have M5 macs by the time this game is released. Those macs will have RTX 4090+ graphics capability.
No way....
It’s pretty sad Andrew even needed to make this vid to begin with
The question that a mac user should ask is if GeForce now will have this game or if shadow pc will still be alive by 2027
Nah cloud gaming is lame
Cloud gaming can solve this problem
That’s because 1.53% of steam games are able to run on Mac 😂
Pc hardware is all its going to work on properly. Ps5 is too under spec for this game for sure
I don’t even know if the Macs can even run the game tbh. This seems like a game where you need the top of the line GPU to even attempt to run it
M3 Max: am i a joke to you?
Sadly Rockstar hate Mac... It's a shame
The now very old, dated and stale excuse. If there are no games on Steam for the Mac, the percentage of Mac gamers on Steam will stay low.
It's just an excuse because they don't like Apple.
Stop looking at the Steam Mac stats, most Mac users do not use the native Mac Steam because it's garbage and has almost no games. Most would use them through Parallels or CrossOver, which are being considered native windows 10/ 11 or Windows 7's due to the emulation...
m6 in mac
Ok.......! Imagine GTA 6 on iPhone 16 its to blow up in popularity. iPhone handheld gaming combine with 5g in your pocket, Pc/Mac, playstation, xbox. Credibility: Resident Evil on IPhone now. why is no one talking about this
Easy no 😂
GTA 6 will come probably in 2026, on PC. This is 3 years from now on, and in 3 years many things can change. Mac's in 2026 can be more popular for games than now. Remember that also Apple Vision Pro will come in next year, maybe in 2026, Vision Pro will be such a popular device that Rockstar will consider port GTA 6 for Vision Pro and Mac? This is not impossible😉. Imagine playing this game on Vision Pro, on very big display in front of your eyes, in VR mode.😍
Sir, Copium is a dangerous substance
this is impossible lool
@@oofdian2968 Why?
It is only console at launch so. No.
Six minute video to answer no….lol
A PS5 is in my future. I’m extremely disappointed with the state on gaming on MacOS.
It's not like it's gotten any better in the past decade. In some ways it's gotten worse because of the shift to ARM and MacOS completely removing all 32bit apps and games from working. Much of this is Apple's fault themselves as they are the ones making it more difficult for games to come to their platform
There will never be GTA 6 on Mac because the game is based on Unreal Engine 5, and in 2025 Unreal Engine 6 will be possible at that time, supporting Apple Silicon, but Epic will not do this. The evidence is that most of the games in the Epic store support Windows only, and 3% support Mac. . It is possible that we will see Rockstar games on the Mac in one case, which is a change in Apple’s policies in the courts, which is to allow a third party to install programs and games without restrictions, and then I guarantee you that we will all play Rockstar games on the Mac.
Actually, UE 5.2 already introduced support for native apple silicon.
@@darkelipse04
Does Unreal Engine 5.2 now support GTA 5 and Red Dead Redemption 2 on Mac Apple Silicon?
@@RaoufBouna nope, never expected them to. Just pointing out that UE 5.2 is already out and supports it. No incentive for developers to use it though.
@@darkelipse04
I agree
Rockstar used their own engine for all big titles - RAGE Engine.
wouldn't matter lol. id get a gaming PC by that point
I'd say no mate
I don't think such a demanding game would run properly on an integrated gpu. I've got a 14 inch macbook pro m3 max 16/40 and playing frostpunk max settings, it was blowing the fans like crazy, plus it drained the battery like crazy. From 100% to 9% in 60 minutes. Apple should develop graphic cards for desktop to compete with nvidia and amd to be a reality.
Apple isn't going after the hardcore gaming market. You probably want to play it on a 16" with a battery pack if that's what you are after anyways ...
I have an M1 Max and Frostpunk runs at ~30 fps pretty well running at 4K. Sure, the fans are running, but the fan noise is pretty low. Good luck getting Nvidia or AMD graphics to give you an hour running on battery!! Cyberpunk 2077 runs in the mid 40 fps under Game Porting Toolkit at 4K, so I would expect this game to run as well, especially if they do a native Mac version.
I talked about desktop gaming. They need to develop graphic cards to make that a reality.
@@Hiimbald12 "I talked about desktop gaming." Really? So why did you talk about battery life? The future M3 Ultra will likely match the 3090 or 4070. I don't think they need to develop graphics cards when their integrated graphics are performing so well.
I doubt it. Apple isn't good at gaming which is why most developers port their games on the PC.
1 word. No.
I don't care for Gta but I am still excited to see if it gets ported
Those platform user base states are slightly misleading since users playing games on their macs through Parallels or Crossover will also show as being Windows users, since they are HAVING to play Windows versions if a Mac version doesn’t exist.