Right I'd be unable to do both and focus properly. I'd either mess up my words and ramble or I'd forget what I did already. Def means he's done it so much he doesn't really need to think about it. Fucking leg!
I’m only half way through and I’ve already learned so much. I’ve always enjoyed all your videos over the years, Jay. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Just catching up on things. Life and what not. Hey man, I dunno what’s up, I don’t want to know, but I do want to say thank you for the years of knowledge transfer and transparency and passion. It’s not for nothing. You have effected me. For the betterment. To all the mechanical OCD people you know I am right. Next rung. Godspeed Jay and fam.
I really appreciate the honesty on prior experiences with products and companies that might not have aligned with what you are doing. Keep that forwardness and honesty alive with this new company. You have earned my business.
I started my current project back in 2021, still buying parts and in the process to refresh all bearings, gaskets and seals on my 2j gte vvti. from 2021 i never missed a video on the real st channel and probably watched everything going back a few years. It was weird not to see you on there. So Thank you for this channel and for taking your time to continue sharing your knowledge with us. I cant even count the number of times i watched and rewatched some of your videos to fully understand and absorb the knowledge.
I love all strong engines. 2jz guys are getting fire info For Free! I understand alot crosses over to different engine but man jays knowledge is valuable. And now he can really be himself. Love the channel.
It’s so awesome that we have these companies like dart making aftermarket blocks. Especially since cores on some of our favourite engines are becoming slim pickings.
Saying this again, I really hope Dart makes another B series block. The B series is still in the top charts at wcf, even tho you see k swaps in everything.
Thanks for the Bonneville coverage. Seems like a super cool group of people. I hope I can make it out to see it in person one day. Any possibility of tuning coverage in the future? Would love to see a bit more of that on here as well, if you’re still doing that.
@@RS_Garage_US Honestly, just you talking about the advantages of the system, you talking through what you’re doing while tuning, any coverage of events if you’re working with Brett on his car still, at least to the extent that you’re able to without giving away any competitive advantages. The more in depth, the better! Also, coverage of your role in those type of events like World Cup Finals, Bonneville, etc would be amazing to watch and likely bring in new subscribers. Now to just talk Cleetus/AdamLZ or some other popular automotive UA-camr into switching to Motec and you covering the install would be the dream as far as information, content, and bringing in new people where it’s so deserved. Either way, I’m here for the long haul! Congratulations on you getting to focus on what matters most to you with your new venture. Hopefully I’ll be able to spend some money to support you in the near future as I’m a fellow Floridian. Cheers!
Love that a blue collar guy that saved up can live the dream. 2J, ZL1, Hemi. Knowing that you achieve a dream, makes it easier to keep working. Saving up and collecting parts sucks when that one critical component is non existant.
Good to see this chanel I didn't know to now great video Jake I asamble my b18 block for first time thanks on your videos that give me the confidence the you can do it with a good teacher 🎉
1h with the master?! Hold on, let me get a refreshment this is going to be good. A question for you... I'm surprised by compression ratios typically seen in 2JZ builds, with 10:1 being considered "high". With the tuning tech advancements and parts quality in the past 10-ish years, I have seen compression numbers gradually going up - for example, I set my B series street/strip Civic at 12:1, with a Garrett G30-900 bolted to it running 33psi (ethanol only). With 15 degrees of timing at that boost level, the plugs look great. Only reason I question this is, I noticed a significant drivability difference when going to this compression. The engine is much snappier, more responsive, has more torque everywhere, and is a lot more fun to drive off-boost around town. Very nice to have more torque on a little 1.8 lol Edit: just realized I forgot to ask the question itself. Why do you think there aren't more 11:1 comp or higher off the shelf pistons for the 2J?
:) The smaller bore/smaller engines in lighter cars will get away with more compression ratio, they also have nice gear splits in the transmission. If your Honda was heavier with larger gear splits you'd be more knock prone. If you were turbo limited a higher compression ratio would something we'd be chasing. We can just add boost and mind the pressure ratio and heat. Direct injection is a good window into controlling detonation with high compression ratios.
Thanks for making this sort of video, Jay. Selfishly I'd like to see your opinion about rotary engines if you happen to find yourself spending time with them, the rotary community is so much smaller there aren't as many people with your background trying things and sharing info about them.
With 50psi what does 1st&2nd ring gap look like at this type of build? What does bearing clearance look like for main and rods with this being a dry sump?
Hi Jay good stuff as always. Do you think that Dart will come up with a tall deck block, like a 6mm increased deck hight. Will the increased deck height help with revving a 96mm stroke combo higher and more reliably. Just theory
I don't think the 96mm crank is the hang up, it's moreso poor head flow and pressure ratio. There are a lot of engines that are over square and rev up. As far as Dart making a tall deck, I sure hope so. ~Jay
Jay love all the information that you hand out. I was just wondering. Lately I started noticing that the brand new factory oil pumps are not starting to be at the same quality like they used to be. I was wondering, have you had any experience with wet sumps, external oil pump? I know it’s really common with the old-school Mopar guys to Use that style set up.
Before installing a factory oil pump Jay opens it, inspects it, applies lube and then loctite to the screws when he puts it back together. For higher stress application we go with a Dry sump.
Hey Jay. Question about rotor gear oil pumps. How do street bike engines survive when many of them still use conventional rotor gear pumps and often see upwards of 16,000 RPM redlines?
@@RS_Garage_US I see and I watched you video about the L19 be susceptible to corrosion since I’ll be using methanol only would you suggest I use the 8740 kit or does the CA 625 come in a 1/2 inch kit?
I’m just trying to do 800hp on oem block. I bought a power house modified oil pump would that be too much? I’m almost doing carillo pistons, Brian crower rods, and for bearings I’m using king bearing. I’m almost blocking the oil squirters.
The modified pump is not going to move less or more oil than the OEM pump. The size of the pump is the same. PHR blueprints the pump and makes sure it's not dry inside. I can help you get the parts for your build if you're shopping. RSgarageus@gmail.com Thanks~ Jay
Not sure if you have access, but grab a copy of "the 1000bhp gran prix cars" It's an excellent authority in what the "no budget" F1 turbo program did in the early years to make them live at 4000mbar.. water, then toluene...and never over 8:1 , some as low as 6.5:1 when avgas was used..all with very good specific power of minimum 140bhp\Liter\bar.
@@RS_Garage_US absolutely! It's kind of shameful if you really think about it😅 If we apply all that was made illegal, aka water, black smoke toluene, ridiculous power and durability should follow.. The secret they used was taking advantage of low turbine inlet pressure vs map... Combined with a large clearance volume.. super high ve was possible.. The zakspeed video shows this.. ,3.5 bar map vs 1.5 turbine inlet pressure... All the stuff is out there, it just needs to be uncovered again 🤌
Excellent 👌 one thing that I do hope, if an aftermarket head does happen, is the same raised ports of the ge.. it's a big deal.. I'm curious what compression ratio you settled on with the 84/87 combo.. Have you considered a proper water injection program to take the peaks and heat out of the combustion process? Would be a no brainer with the long "time on load" stuff you are doing now🤌
The new head should be a merger of the K series head and the JZ head. Moving the valvetrain up and out of the way, allowing the port height and volume we'd like to have. It would also leave us with rocker arms so we can run some lift! Yes I've considered water injection, I'm going to move to Methanol ASAP. ~Jay
@@RS_Garage_US I wonder what happened to that "suprasport" head from years ago... All K series gear... But yeah...cast is fast... Let's imagine the common K series turbo specific power of 145bhp\liter\bar...a 3 liter on 3 bar boost would net us 1750hp....👌 But yeah..excess fuel is king for keeping those temps down..I'd be careful with pre ignition though...surface discharge plugs might be in order... Loving the channel.. it's my new favourite 🤌 PS...could just do what Ferrari did, and mix the water into the fuel.. "emulsion"..10% by volume..
Supra Sport wanted like 20k for that head. Plus, they had VVT and VVL which pretty much ruled it out for everyone that would have the budget for it. The drag racers don't use those features. That's for street car guys. And street car guys aren't buying 20k heads. It's a shame though. There's probably a good space for cast or billet heads in the 2x OEM price range. Just not 10x.
Most of the skirt coats are present for break in. The last set of Manley pistons I ran at Bonneville the coating stayed intact. If you're looking for a better long term coating check out Line2Line ~Jay
I don't want to answer for Jay, but I lubricate them so they go into the block nicely. Pretty much all fasteners get a little lube when I'm assembling an engine. Just so the threads can glide nicely over each other.
@@kyleblair5004No they should go smoothly inside however ARP never stated to do so unless its exposed to water then you need to apply sealant on to them not lubricant, you do lubricant bolt not stud for thread portion that needs to rotate and stretch in case of stud it’s not correct and will affect the torquing number
I don't really understand the appeal of a straight six beyond the inherently good balance. It seems as if the engine length would offer packaging issues without a setback.
How many different engine platforms have you raced/owned? What's your favorite platform? I think the Jz became a household option as it lives well over 1,000hp and many engines just can't for the pricepoint. ~Jay
@@RS_Garage_USidk any other 6 cylinder than can do 1600whp with piston and rods upgraded girdle or main caps. My all time favorite engine vr38 can do 1600whp without being sleeved but needs some type of cut ring head gasket technology or top fuels hoops. Stock 2jz are out of this world and now the dart 2jz just further cemented its legendary pedigree.
There’s another channel with the same name as yours and when you put in rs garage his comes up first . Pretty sure he gained like 40000 subs in the last few weeks. His is called thersgarage .
Jay just casually assembling an engine while explaining why and answering our questions is exactly why you are such a legend and an inspiration
Final assemble is kinda easy tbh, you’ve already measured and checked everything, it’s all laided out nice, can just chill and work.
@@bigcncguy Agreed, it's nice work. I don't care for the mineral spirits or breaking down nasty cores. Otherwise it's great work.
Right I'd be unable to do both and focus properly. I'd either mess up my words and ramble or I'd forget what I did already. Def means he's done it so much he doesn't really need to think about it. Fucking leg!
@@sokegame8788 I think Jay could assemble a 2JZ in his sleep!
@@RS_Garage_USmain thing i cant stand is cleaning up gasket maker from pans/bottom of block and oilpump
If Jay did an hour long video everyday ,I'd watch every minute
man this is just ASMR. I don't even have a Supra or a 2J, I just like listening to Jay teach me life lessons
I’m only half way through and I’ve already learned so much. I’ve always enjoyed all your videos over the years, Jay. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks Scott.
2jz is the best engine EVER MADE! Iam glad your actually happy now Jay...
Heck yeah didn't realize Jay made his own channel 😅 thank you buddy for making this channel love your work
Thanks a bunch, I hope you enjoy the progress on the channel. I've started a new company and this channel should help spread the word. ~Jay
Just catching up on things. Life and what not. Hey man, I dunno what’s up, I don’t want to know, but I do want to say thank you for the years of knowledge transfer and transparency and passion. It’s not for nothing. You have effected me. For the betterment. To all the mechanical OCD people you know I am right. Next rung. Godspeed Jay and fam.
I really appreciate the honesty on prior experiences with products and companies that might not have aligned with what you are doing. Keep that forwardness and honesty alive with this new company. You have earned my business.
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I started my current project back in 2021, still buying parts and in the process to refresh all bearings, gaskets and seals on my 2j gte vvti. from 2021 i never missed a video on the real st channel and probably watched everything going back a few years. It was weird not to see you on there. So Thank you for this channel and for taking your time to continue sharing your knowledge with us. I cant even count the number of times i watched and rewatched some of your videos to fully understand and absorb the knowledge.
Best of luck with the new channel Jay, love watching your videos for years now! Wealth of knowledge my man, much love from ireland!
Much appreciated!
Jays tech tips on the next level. I dig it.
As always, appreciate the content Jay! You’re a legend in the engine building world.
I aint never Torqued a fastner before ... Yo go Mr Jay 👏
I love all strong engines. 2jz guys are getting fire info For Free! I understand alot crosses over to different engine but man jays knowledge is valuable. And now he can really be himself. Love the channel.
Jay makes assembling an engine like riding a bike! 🚴🏿
I found ya Mr Jay ! Your about to change my valve cover gasket on my Ford focus pal
It’s so awesome that we have these companies like dart making aftermarket blocks. Especially since cores on some of our favourite engines are becoming slim pickings.
Jay can you do a video on oil pumps before installing on engine. Like what to do prior to installing.
Thank you Jay
Saying this again, I really hope Dart makes another B series block. The B series is still in the top charts at wcf, even tho you see k swaps in everything.
That’s cool that it’s an 84mm stroke. Nice
Thanks for the Bonneville coverage. Seems like a super cool group of people. I hope I can make it out to see it in person one day. Any possibility of tuning coverage in the future? Would love to see a bit more of that on here as well, if you’re still doing that.
I'm tuning on some Motec platforms, what are you looking for? Yes, Bonneville is great!
@@RS_Garage_US Honestly, just you talking about the advantages of the system, you talking through what you’re doing while tuning, any coverage of events if you’re working with Brett on his car still, at least to the extent that you’re able to without giving away any competitive advantages. The more in depth, the better! Also, coverage of your role in those type of events like World Cup Finals, Bonneville, etc would be amazing to watch and likely bring in new subscribers. Now to just talk Cleetus/AdamLZ or some other popular automotive UA-camr into switching to Motec and you covering the install would be the dream as far as information, content, and bringing in new people where it’s so deserved. Either way, I’m here for the long haul! Congratulations on you getting to focus on what matters most to you with your new venture. Hopefully I’ll be able to spend some money to support you in the near future as I’m a fellow Floridian. Cheers!
You leaved Real Street Jay?
There is so much good information in this entire video, good stuff man!
That block is a beauty.
Love that a blue collar guy that saved up can live the dream. 2J, ZL1, Hemi. Knowing that you achieve a dream, makes it easier to keep working. Saving up and collecting parts sucks when that one critical component is non existant.
Really enjoyed this and picked up a lot of useful info. Thanks dude.
Glad to hear it!
Awesome video. It was a great listen, and production is awesome as always Luis ❤
The deck is a little tall, the cylinders are a little small - Jay Meagher the poet.
Keep the great videos coming Jay!
Building a 2j while mention how he love a dart B block and how the K head flows was awesome.
Yo go Mr Jay 👏 💪 🙌 😎 ...
Good to see this chanel I didn't know to now great video Jake I asamble my b18 block for first time thanks on your videos that give me the confidence the you can do it with a good teacher 🎉
Jay is a legend!
Great video Jay I've got 2 Dart blocks to build at SRD Tuning in the UK good to see you build one and really push it to the limits 👌
Great video Jay.
1h with the master?! Hold on, let me get a refreshment this is going to be good. A question for you... I'm surprised by compression ratios typically seen in 2JZ builds, with 10:1 being considered "high". With the tuning tech advancements and parts quality in the past 10-ish years, I have seen compression numbers gradually going up - for example, I set my B series street/strip Civic at 12:1, with a Garrett G30-900 bolted to it running 33psi (ethanol only). With 15 degrees of timing at that boost level, the plugs look great. Only reason I question this is, I noticed a significant drivability difference when going to this compression. The engine is much snappier, more responsive, has more torque everywhere, and is a lot more fun to drive off-boost around town. Very nice to have more torque on a little 1.8 lol Edit: just realized I forgot to ask the question itself. Why do you think there aren't more 11:1 comp or higher off the shelf pistons for the 2J?
:) The smaller bore/smaller engines in lighter cars will get away with more compression ratio, they also have nice gear splits in the transmission. If your Honda was heavier with larger gear splits you'd be more knock prone. If you were turbo limited a higher compression ratio would something we'd be chasing. We can just add boost and mind the pressure ratio and heat. Direct injection is a good window into controlling detonation with high compression ratios.
Great video Jay. I always like watching your videos. I hope Dart makes a 2jz head that flow like a k series also.
Thanks for making this sort of video, Jay. Selfishly I'd like to see your opinion about rotary engines if you happen to find yourself spending time with them, the rotary community is so much smaller there aren't as many people with your background trying things and sharing info about them.
Great video thanks for sharing the knowledge
With 50psi what does 1st&2nd ring gap look like at this type of build? What does bearing clearance look like for main and rods with this being a dry sump?
On the topic of fuel i think thats how snot rocket 2.0 survived the drag and drive
Hi Jay good stuff as always. Do you think that Dart will come up with a tall deck block, like a 6mm increased deck hight. Will the increased deck height help with revving a 96mm stroke combo higher and more reliably. Just theory
I don't think the 96mm crank is the hang up, it's moreso poor head flow and pressure ratio. There are a lot of engines that are over square and rev up. As far as Dart making a tall deck, I sure hope so. ~Jay
Jay love all the information that you hand out. I was just wondering. Lately I started noticing that the brand new factory oil pumps are not starting to be at the same quality like they used to be. I was wondering, have you had any experience with wet sumps, external oil pump? I know it’s really common with the old-school Mopar guys to Use that style set up.
Before installing a factory oil pump Jay opens it, inspects it, applies lube and then loctite to the screws when he puts it back together. For higher stress application we go with a Dry sump.
Jay could you do a video on s58 bmw engine? maybe even a build video in the future? thank you
Great content J, would the oem head gasket and maincaps be sufficient for drift application and 800whp ?
Sure, as long as you're not detonating the engine.~Jay
Hey Jay. Question about rotor gear oil pumps. How do street bike engines survive when many of them still use conventional rotor gear pumps and often see upwards of 16,000 RPM redlines?
Do these blocks support VVTI?
Does ARP have a part number specifically for the main studs on a Dart block? What material was the main stud you utilized?
Hey Jay did you use the CA 625’s or L19 instead of Dart’s main studs?
This engine has the 1/2" ARP 8740 kit.
@@RS_Garage_US I see and I watched you video about the L19 be susceptible to corrosion since I’ll be using methanol only would you suggest I use the 8740 kit or does the CA 625 come in a 1/2 inch kit?
I’m just trying to do 800hp on oem block. I bought a power house modified oil pump would that be too much? I’m almost doing carillo pistons, Brian crower rods, and for bearings I’m using king bearing. I’m almost blocking the oil squirters.
The modified pump is not going to move less or more oil than the OEM pump. The size of the pump is the same. PHR blueprints the pump and makes sure it's not dry inside. I can help you get the parts for your build if you're shopping. RSgarageus@gmail.com Thanks~ Jay
What's the difference in cost between aluminium billet block 2jz and the dart and also strength weight wise?
A billet block will run 10k+ depending on which manufacturer you chose, where the dart will be about half once all the machining is done.
i want to build one with the best low end torque and response with peak hp around 700 to 800 street use. do a build like that jay
Sounds like a Precision 6466 and VVti! ! ~Jay
@@RS_Garage_US what about a twin scroll borg warner efr? air to water intercooler 3.4 stroker with vvti
In an all Motor application does the Dart Motor outperform a Stock Motor? What is the maximum HP on that application? Interesting to know.
Not sure if you have access, but grab a copy of "the 1000bhp gran prix cars"
It's an excellent authority in what the "no budget" F1 turbo program did in the early years to make them live at 4000mbar.. water, then toluene...and never over 8:1 , some as low as 6.5:1 when avgas was used..all with very good specific power of minimum 140bhp\Liter\bar.
I've spent a lot of time geeking about about that era. It's really incredible how far we are behind that pace. ~Jay
@@RS_Garage_US absolutely! It's kind of shameful if you really think about it😅
If we apply all that was made illegal, aka water, black smoke toluene, ridiculous power and durability should follow..
The secret they used was taking advantage of low turbine inlet pressure vs map... Combined with a large clearance volume.. super high ve was possible..
The zakspeed video shows this.. ,3.5 bar map vs 1.5 turbine inlet pressure... All the stuff is out there, it just needs to be uncovered again 🤌
Excellent 👌 one thing that I do hope, if an aftermarket head does happen, is the same raised ports of the ge.. it's a big deal..
I'm curious what compression ratio you settled on with the 84/87 combo..
Have you considered a proper water injection program to take the peaks and heat out of the combustion process? Would be a no brainer with the long "time on load" stuff you are doing now🤌
The new head should be a merger of the K series head and the JZ head. Moving the valvetrain up and out of the way, allowing the port height and volume we'd like to have. It would also leave us with rocker arms so we can run some lift! Yes I've considered water injection, I'm going to move to Methanol ASAP. ~Jay
@@RS_Garage_US I wonder what happened to that "suprasport" head from years ago... All K series gear...
But yeah...cast is fast...
Let's imagine the common K series turbo specific power of 145bhp\liter\bar...a 3 liter on 3 bar boost would net us 1750hp....👌
But yeah..excess fuel is king for keeping those temps down..I'd be careful with pre ignition though...surface discharge plugs might be in order...
Loving the channel.. it's my new favourite 🤌
PS...could just do what Ferrari did, and mix the water into the fuel.. "emulsion"..10% by volume..
Supra Sport wanted like 20k for that head. Plus, they had VVT and VVL which pretty much ruled it out for everyone that would have the budget for it. The drag racers don't use those features. That's for street car guys. And street car guys aren't buying 20k heads. It's a shame though. There's probably a good space for cast or billet heads in the 2x OEM price range. Just not 10x.
look out for delamination on those manley pistons.
Most of the skirt coats are present for break in. The last set of Manley pistons I ran at Bonneville the coating stayed intact. If you're looking for a better long term coating check out Line2Line ~Jay
@@RS_Garage_US i agree line2line is the way to go for reliable coatings
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Jay do you still have your supra?
Wait wait wait, so Jay is now RS Garage and not Real Street? Or is he just doing double duty now?
RS Garage only now.
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Just wait till I build one of these with stock GE pistons/rods and make 200 wheel 😂
Why you applying lubricant to the bottom of the stud!
I don't want to answer for Jay, but I lubricate them so they go into the block nicely. Pretty much all fasteners get a little lube when I'm assembling an engine. Just so the threads can glide nicely over each other.
@@kyleblair5004No they should go smoothly inside however ARP never stated to do so unless its exposed to water then you need to apply sealant on to them not lubricant, you do lubricant bolt not stud for thread portion that needs to rotate and stretch in case of stud it’s not correct and will affect the torquing number
Not Real Street anymore? Why RS garage
I'd like to hear more about that transition also, but it's his business and I can respect if he doesn't want to make a big deal about it.
He dont have the other channel?
Strength is a consideration, but more than that [on any block]... oiling system.
I don't really understand the appeal of a straight six beyond the inherently good balance. It seems as if the engine length would offer packaging issues without a setback.
How many different engine platforms have you raced/owned? What's your favorite platform? I think the Jz became a household option as it lives well over 1,000hp and many engines just can't for the pricepoint. ~Jay
@@RS_Garage_USidk any other 6 cylinder than can do 1600whp with piston and rods upgraded girdle or main caps. My all time favorite engine vr38 can do 1600whp without being sleeved but needs some type of cut ring head gasket technology or top fuels hoops. Stock 2jz are out of this world and now the dart 2jz just further cemented its legendary pedigree.
There’s another channel with the same name as yours and when you put in rs garage his comes up first . Pretty sure he gained like 40000 subs in the last few weeks. His is called thersgarage .