Honda pioneer 1000-5 dual battery
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This is Episode #1 of a 4 part series about upgrades and accessories I had made before I had started my you tube channel. This episode talks about the True dual battery connect and monitoring system, fuse block, ground bar, and the second battery install.
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How are the directions that come with the hook up? I have ordered some accessories and the directions get frustrating quickly, especially with electrical. Good videos
I found better directions on line. The ones that come with it are understandable but when you go to google and punch in tru dual battery Honda pioneer and then hit images. There is some really good drawings of how this should be done. Thank you and thanks for watching
Have you did an install video for this? I like the descriptive and informative videos that you do and I just purchased a stereo, speakers, the same dual battery system, the fuse block, ground block, and I have several different lights. But I like the way you installed yours.
Unfortunately I did mine before I started videoing on UA-cam. Glad your liking the videos and finding them useful. I haven't installed another tru dual system on another side x side since this video. I will see what diagrams I can find for you if you would like. My email is jnix73@yahoo.com
Wheres the installation videos?
As I stated in the video. I installed this before my UA-cam channel. If I end up doing another dual battery on a pioneer. I will film step by step. Thanks for watching
@@pineylife My mistake i thought you said you were going to break it up into a series? Dont mind me im a dumb dumb sometimes,,,lol,,
What size/type wire did you use to feed your fuse block?
I use 12 gauge wire to the fuse block and ground block. Here is the wire link i use amzn.to/4cxEU5h
Let me jknow if you need anything else. Thanks for watching
@@pineylife I meant to actually feed the block. The main wire
@@erichmischke3794 6 gauge wire here is the link amzn.to/3LigqB4
Cool beans. 😃
love that saying. Thanks for watching
As it is with every other video of this install , it’s different with several steps left out
Thanks for your input but I stated that this install was done before I had my you tube channel. As soon as I find a candidate that has a pioneer and willing to buy the kit. I will install it and video the process. Step by step. Thanks for watching.
Did you rewire your factory installed winch connection to the aux battery?
Not at the time of the video but its is rewired to the aux battery now.
I added the Tru dual set up on 2022 Pioneer. Just curious is the blue light in the isolator suppose to be on all the time? Mine is on when running and when the key is off. It's also on when it has a battery tender on it. Did I wire something wrong?
You didn't hook up anything wrong. Mine stays on too. It has never gave me any battery trouble over the last two years.
@@pineylife Thank you
@@scottcannon50 your welcome.
Is there a wire that runs from the ground block to the ground on the machine where the batteries ground?
yes. The ground That goes to my fuse block runs off of the secondary battery ground post. I used a 6 gauge wire to connect the two.
Beware I used the link and Amazon said PC925 like the one in the video but they sent ODS-AGM28L and it’s too damn big won’t fit sideways front ways etc
Did you get the link from my description? If so I will complain to them about it. I will also go back and see if they changed my link. Thank you for the heads up
I have 2d battery and True isolator installed. I have a winch, front led light bar and reverse lights, and a dual volt meter on my 2022 Pioneer.
I do not have a fuse box, or bus bar and everything works fine. Why would I need them?
Sounds like you got some accessories. Do you have every thing just hooked to the batteries or does the 2022 have a fuse block for each accessory with a fuse link?
Reason for the blocks is to separate your positive terminals on a fuse link and If there is any issue with a accessory you would just undo the wire from said block and hook up a new accessory. The cool thing about the blocks also is having the fuse to protect that one accessory.
can u chassis ground the lites as to not run as much wire to roil cage or other metal and not use a gnd block
Yes that shouldn’t be a problem. The main reason I ran the coated wire was because I figured with time the positive wire might get a break or the costing might get rubbed into and ground out. But I see exactley what your saying in less wires.
I’ve got a 2023 pioneer 1000-6. I added the Hondasxs 12” light bar that is wired in with the high beams. My lights have recently quit working. Low beam and high beam/light bar. From what I read through some of these comments here and on forums, I shouldn’t need a dual battery to do this. Do you have any idea what the issue could be? I’m all for putting in a dual battery if necessary. Thanks for any input.
Honestly for one light bar or even two light bars. You don’t need the dual battery set up.
On the light at and lights it’s got to be a fuse that just blew. I would check the fuses and see if one’s blown. If so just up the fuse a a few amps and you should be good. Also probably wouldn’t be a bad idea if you added a relay to the light bar hot wire that goes to the high beams just to help from getting the fuse hot. Let me know if you need anymore help or to look up a part for you. Thanks for watching
So what your telling me if you don’t add dual battery and your main battery goes low it’s going to. Damage your DCT ??????????
No that's not what I'm saying. You don't have to add a extra battery if your NOT gonna use a lot of accessories such as winch. EXAMPLE--The only time this would be a issue is if say you was stuck in a mudhole and you was using your winch to pull yourself out and trying to shift at the same time as the winch is pulling a lot of voltage from your battery and the battery is low you could damage your DCT. If you had a dual battery setup the extra battery would be hooked up to the winch therefor not affecting your main battery as it needs 12 volts to work your clutch properly. Your main battery will work the DCT just fine even when its low if your running a light or so fourth.
ONLY if you are using a lot of accessories or a big accessory (such as a winch) would this be a problem. The tru dual system is just a added insurance to protect your machines DCT. For me and my machine im running 4 lightbars ,radio, and winch so I would rather buy the kit than replace a DCT.
I'm confused on the L brackets for the battery. Any pics?
Here is the link for them. They are a l terminal adapter bracket. Let me know if you need anymore info. Thanks for watching
Why dual battery’s why not just one heavier battery ?????
Your main battery needs to be used for the pioneer electronics only, such as your dct clutch. You do not want to shift at a low volltage due to damaging your dct. The extra battery takes the load of all your accessories without pulling any volts from your primary battery. A larger battery will not fit in the factory battery location but there is two battery compartments in the front that allows you to run two of the same size batteries.
Hey Piney,
Thx for all the videos! The link you got for the fuse block has a ground block on it? I didn’t see a ground block on your fuse block? Do I need to buy a ground block as well with the new Amazon fuse block?
Me personally I like to have my fuse block separate from my ground block. I guess that is from my drag racing days. lol . I'm not sure how that got switched but I have corrected the video descriptions and links. The link now is for the correct part that i have on my pioneer. Thanks for catching the issue and let me know if I can help in anyway.
Would I need this if I’m only gonna occasionally run a 20” light bar and two small led light pods?
No you should be fine. They won’t use much volts being led light bars and pods.
Have you thought about adding a trickle charger? I also I see you have not used a Stinger? I’m typing to scope out the parts to build mine! Thanks for your work support the community!!
I have been looking at trickle chargers. I actually replaced the main battery not long ago. I had a switch cross over and drained the battery glad I had the volt meters for each battery. Lol. I haven’t installed a stinger yet but I’m looking into that also. I’m hoping to do a complete dual battery install video soon. I just haven’t found anybody close to me that wants to buy the kit and me install it. Lol. Your welcome and glad you got something out of the video. Thanks for watching.
I might be interested in letting you do the dual battery video with my 2017 1000M5LE if you are still looking for a unit to install it on.
I love your set up.
Hey there. May I ask a question that I can't seem to find an answer to? Why can't a larger capacity battery just be installed? Instead of a second with all the extra wiring.
Hello, With the pioneer running the battery in the front under the hood. That don't leave much room for a larger battery. Plus with a certain battery dimension for the tray you are limited on battery sizes. If you hooking up a few accessories then you should be fine on a regular battery but if your running a lot of accessories the second battery is a plus. Another good thing about two batteries is if one dies you can jump from the other if needed.
You can add a much larger battery under the driver's seat (and run long cables back there), but I would do that in ADDITION to the primary battery and the True Am isolator. The purpose of the isolator is to protect your main battery (responsible for starting the vehicle and operating the DCT, which is very picky when it comes to voltage) in the event that you run your accessories a long time and run the 2nd battery down. Without an isolator or other means to disconnect the two batteries, even with a larger battery, you run the risk of not being able to start your Pioneer and get home. EVERYTHING aftermarket should be powered by the AUX battery, including the winch (move the main leads even if factory or dealer installed). If you want the option to run your accessories with the key OFF, then you can install a DPDT switch that will allow you to (a) run it all normally via key-on power, (b) run any/all accessories connected to the AUX battery and fuse panel just by flipping the switch, or (c) put the switch in the middle position and not allow any accessory to run.
From what I can see, you are still running your winch of your main battery? Or is it plumbed into your second battery?
At the time this video was made it was run off of my main battery. When i bought the the side x side I wanted the winch covered under my blue torque warranty. So they installed it and hooked the winch up at honda but after my last battery replacement I moved it to the secondary battery.
Did you hook the power straight from the battery? Or from an egnition on power source?
James Fields the tru dual isolator is hooked to both batteries so it can charge them both. My power source is hooked straight to the main battery and the switch panel is hooked to the second battery. Hope this helps . Please Let me know if I answered your question .
Thanks my man! Liberty or death!! Love the flag. So I was looking heavily into other aftermarket roofs but after seeing your top 10 mods and keeping the Honda roof I feel that’s the best bet. I heard some of the ranch armor and larger ones can make it too heavy.
Your welcome and thank you. Me personally I have had my pioneer in some pretty crazy spots while retrieving deer and I have to say its held up flawless against trees and things hanging down that I have to push through. I really like the armor stuff and some of the aluminum or metal flat tops. But they don't work as good as the factory Honda tops. The main reason I like the Honda roof is the contour of it. It hangs over just enough on the front for a sun visor, it comes down on the back corners over the rear of the cage and it routes water away from the sides so you don't get soaked when it raining. They are just a great engineered part that holds up to stress and time.
What is the main benefit of adding the second battery? Just curious...
Its to help protect the dual electric clutch (dct). if your battery gets low on volts from running accessories it can damage your clutch. Adding the extra battery and running your accessories off of your secondary battery leaves your factory battery to keep your dct with full voltage for shifting.
@@pineylife It benefits the DCT because it protects the original battery from running low. The other benefit from protecting that same battery is that you're not left stranded somewhere because you can't start your SXS to get home.
where u found that fuse box Piney
I got it on amazon. Here's the link to it --- amzn.to/3b6xGdN
So, using the fuse and ground block that you added an answer to the key on for power? I've been looking at the plug and play harness that plugs into the back of the 12 v plug, but that looks painfully tough to do with big hands.
No not key on. My switch panel I added is Hooked to a 30 amp rocker switch which is hooked to my secondary battery. So that switch has power all the time. It’s not a lighted switch no more since I did not want it using any power while it’s parked.
So if I did the same I could run the key on power to the fuse for my winch, added lights, whip light and any other accessory that I don't want in the main battery, right?
Yes sir that is correct. I was the same way. I just wanted my main battery for the side x side. And have a way to turn the accessory panel off and on for less battery drainage.
Any video/pictures on how you added/connected the extra rocker switch that powers on/off your rocker switch panel?
No bud I sure don't. I haven't had a reason to pull the panel back out. But when I upgrade the panel I will.
@@pineylife did you end up adding a stinger relay to assist in this?
@@hickoryridgeoutdoors4494 Adding the relay and a fuse panel makes it much easier to add more accessories later. Forget the Stinger, though. They fail all the time, and freeze up. Find the Cole Hersee 24117 marine rated continuous duty relay. Older ones were rated at 65A and made here, but the latest ones seems to be made in Mexico, not UL rated, but rated at 84A. Hard to find anything but the latter.
Why didn’t you use a stinger relay?
I’m trying to wire in a second battery and watched Robert Sparrow’s video but I’m lost and overwhelmed in the process.
Sorry for the late reply. I didn’t see the need for it at the time and to this day I’m not running one on mine. But I do plan on adding one soon. If I do I will be adding one. Please let me know how yours goes and if I can help in any way. Thanks for watching.
Jamie thank you for the awesome video. I enjoy watching your videos they are very good and educational. When you hook up the battery tender to the main battery will it also charge the auxiliary battery? Praying that you have a Blessed turkey season my friend
Your welcome and I'm glad you are getting good use of the videos. Yes it does charge both. If I'm not using the pioneer for maybe a week at a time, I will attach a tender to it and both batteries are ready to go when I use it. Thank you again for your continued support .
I spoke to someone at the True battery isolator place and was told to hook the trickle charger the battery 2, the auxilliary battery. I also saw that on the website of one of their vendors for the product go figure. Counterintuitive, but I’m doing what they said.
Thank you for sharing. I will try that
Great video. What gauge wire did you use to connect to the main positive power lead on your fuse panel?
Thank you. I actually used 6 gauge wire. I had some left over from a winch I installed.
@@pineylife That’s a smart move. That’s about the gauge I was thinking about almost like the battery cables. We have a friend who’s a mechanic at a Honda shop and he said he had a lot of leftover cable from winch installs and he’s going to use that to hook us up. Thanks for the reply. We like your videos a lot.
@@edwardshamisjr.5262 that cable works great for this application. I always used 6 gauge when installing amplifiers in cars for big stereo systems. So this style cable worked great. Thank you for watching and supporting my channel. Keep me posted on your project
I have a Honda pioneer 1000 and I have hooked up the True Duel Battery with Isolater I am having an issue with the Duel Voltage meter staying on all the time
Where did you hook it up to to make it go off when the key is off
I have a fuse block and it still illuminates all the time. Thank you
Mine did too. I ended up putting a rocker switch in my dash that cuts the power of to my secondary fuse panel that goes to all my switches for my panel. also went to a single voltage gauge just for my accessories.
Sounds good
Thank you for getting back with me
Thx man for the time you took to share. It helped me a ton and saved me alot of time. you got a new sub ;)
Your welcome man, glad it helped you out. Thanks for watching and thanks for supporting my channel. Welcome to PINEY
You just convinced me that i need this
Goad you got use out of the video. Dual battery set up is the was to go. Thank you for watching
@@pineylife I got all of my stuff so once the grandkids will let me work on it I'll be good to go
Are you useing a odyssey pc925L gel battery or a Odyssey PC925 gel battery? Or is there a difference,
I am running a pc925 gel battery for my secondary battery. The way i understand it is the post are reversed and on the opposite side on top of the battery on the pc925L. It’s designed to lay face down where the pc925 can be mounted in any position.
Thank you for the information
I just bought 2019 honda pioneer, it has the hard cab, heater, winch, and several aftermarket lights, and I plan on adding a radio and some other electric add ons so I want to be prepared, I find your videos on the Honda pioneer very useful and informative. Thank you the good job of explaining stuff as you do them.
@@waydeclark3022 your welcome
@@waydeclark3022 Congrats on your purchase, sounds like you got a lot of extras with it! Thank you on the comments and support for my videos I really appreciate it! I had already done the install on mine before i started my channel. Im hoping to do a complete install of the dual battery system on another pioneer. Just haven't found the right candidate yet. Thinking about doing a free labor install on a pioneer if the owner buys the parts and then do a detailed step by step install video.. Anyways thanks for watching
I just installed this. Am I ok to put a trickle charger on it with the isolator?
I don’t see why you couldn’t because the isolator alternates between both batteries when they need charge. I have never needed to because my batteries stay charged up. But that’s not a bad idea at all. Let me know how it works and thanks for watching.
Very good video
Thank you and thanks for watching!
I did this awhile back for my talon but it seems like the battery doesn’t get charged enough or stay charged while I’m riding around using accessories. Have you had any issues like this?
Evan, No i haven't had any issues with mine keeping charge. I did run a switch on my panel so i could completely cut the power to the panel just incase something had a pull or developed a short.. is you tru battery isolator wired backwards? maybe?
If your aux battery is not getting charged up while riding around (assuming you're doing more than 3 minute rides), then you've got an issue somewhere with the wiring, one or more of the charging components (e.g., stator, regulator/rectifier, etc.), a battery, or the isolator. The OEM charging system on a Talon or Pioneer is more than adequate to keep up with the average load of accessories, provided you're not trying to pull 1.21 gigawatts at once.
I have a similar switch plate and switches. Can someone please tell me
where to connect/run the blue and yellow wires from the switches? I have
dual battery setup like yours and fuse box like yours. Thanks!
Mil Survival mine was all red and black. The only yellow and blue wire I have In my harness is the yellow from the radio and it’s hooked to the auxiliary battery and the blue wire is not hooked up till I decide if I’m running a amp. Is your yellow and blue coming off each switch?
Blue goes to keyed power and yellow goes to ground
Blue goes to keyed power and yellow goes to ground
How do you know what size of fuse to use?
My 52 inch light bar recommended a 25 amp fuse. so since I'm running two light bars on each side and a 14 inch on the back I just added 25 amp fuses to all my accessories. I haven't had any issues since the install. Thanks for watching
Piney everything still good with the set up? I'm about to pull the trigger but I don't want to throw away 300 bucks if its junk 😬😬
Yes sir, I have absolutely no problems. This time of year I’m running lights on recovering deer (running the front 52.inch light bar, radio, back lights and sometimes side lights)Radio is being used back in forth to my lease. Cold weather has not affected either battery at all. I’m extremely pleased with the kit and would recommend it to anyone who is gonna run a lot of accessories or a big winch. It’s worth the money.
@@pineylife thanks my man I'm about to put it in the Amazon cart and let the wife pay for it 😆😆 im just guessing but when I hook it all up it'll only be hot when the key is turned on, is that correct?
@@dustycrawley5215 Actually the isolator will have power on it all the time because its hooked to both batteries. It does not effect anything or theres no power usage from it having power to it when the switch is off... I have dual volt gauge on my batteries that display the voltage on each battery even while the switch is off so i can see what volt the batteries are at all times... The pioneer alternator charges the batteries after you start driving and the isolator just sends voltage to each battery as it they need it.
@@pineylife hey preciate you piney!!!
@@dustycrawley5215 anytime brother. Let me know how the install goes. Thanks for watching and welcome to piney life!
Well I got my True dual battery set up in my pioneer over the weekend. It wasn't to bad, just time consuming. I don't have a lot of stuff, winch, front light bar, 2-rear lights, and a phone charger port. I got the one with a relay for the dual voltage meters, powers them with key on, so they shut off when key is off. Take care, good luck bow hunting, bow season started today here in Missouri.
Tim Sr. Glad to here you got set up on the batteries. You will be happy with it. Your exactly right about it being time consuming... lol.. Thank you and good luck on your season also. Ours doesn’t open till September 26th. Thanks for watching.
Excellent video with links !!!
Thanks
3006USMC Thank you and thanks for watching. Welcome to piney life
So you didn't install one of those stinger relay's ? I'm thinking about doing a dual battery in my 1000 Pioneer, I'm not sure exactly what the stinger does, and if you need it. Thanks !
Tim Sr. No i didn’t install a stinger. I didn’t install anything extra than what come with the tru dual kit. And mine has worked flawlessly for 2 years. I have put a little over 800 miles on my pioneer. Hope this helps.
@@pineylife Thanks for the fast reply, I'm going to get the kit and do it like yours, looks very neat, and nice. I did notice your battery voltage light is on, does it stay on all the time ? Does it put any drain on battery.Thank you !!!
Tim Sr. Your welcome. It does stay on but I have not seen any voltage drop at all. That worried me for the first few weeks but it’s not enough to hurt anything. Been like that for 2 years. Lol.
@@pineylife Thanks, I just can't stand doing wiring !!!
Tim Sr. To be honest the battery install is pretty easy. Now wiring the accessories can be time consuming. The main thing that I would say helped me was that I installed all my switch’s and stereo on the panel. Then I ran extra wire from them , marked them and zipped tied them, that way I had plenty of wire to deal with once the panel was installed. That made hooking to the fuse block and ground block so much easier.
When you buy the battery isolator do you need the the stinger with it?
I did not install the stinger on mine but I have thought about adding it now that my battery has a couple years on it. But I have not had any issues so far with this set up and know stinger. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
@@pineylife thanks man
What does the stinger addition do?
@@andrewherzog9336 When I installed the dual battery isolator and battery I installed the stinger and wired it in the exhilarating fuse from the OME fuse box it will be the size 15amp fuse.
It sounds hard but if you install the ground buss and power fuse box for the power it will be easy to land all your accessories. If you need any help I can send you a lay out how I installed mine.
Can you make a video of the items on amazon we will need?
Thanks for watching. I have the amazon links in the description below the video if you click on them it will bring up the exact part i used . i don't mind at all to do another vid on the parts also.
@@pineylife please do