Most people seem to believe that their initial exposure to a term or concept is also the origination of that term or concept. Simple things like facts and timelines don't exist to them.
@@brandoncoleman673I was thinking about Oblivion while playing Morrowind and just remembered how much I disliked most of the later game equipment. Sorry, maybe in another decade
@@thescatologistcopromancer3936 I can see where you're coming from yeah. But I'd say for the most part that Skyrim had the most consistently good looking armour. There's only a few sets that I'd actually call ugly.
The developers "not thinking that far ahead" is total BS. In Redguard, a game that came out in 1999, there is a cutscene that has 6 books all titled after the 6 then unreleased Elder Scrolls games. In 1999, the names of the games Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim were all name-dropped. The final and 6th one, Argonia, is thought to have been the ESO Expansion. So I definitely think that the developers were thinking "that far ahead" when talking about Syndicates in the Shimmering Isles.
“You move like a pregnant cow” is actually a reference to “Remo Williams” where his master tells him “you move like a pregnant yak” while training him.
For the Boba Fett reference I am guessing it’s a situation where the two took inspiration from the same source (real medieval helmets), thus there’s some similarities.
For Belisarius I would agree. Belisarius was a legendary Byzantine general irl , defeated the goths, vandals, and Sassanids. Before his legendary exploits, he was personal bodyguard of Emperor Justinian I after serving time within the Byzantine/Roman Army. He reconquered Rome even.
According to a certain member of the Oblivion Writing team(i will not name names) The line "The only good goblin is a dead goblin" was actually a direct reference to the Starship Troopers film, in which Casper Van Dien's Character, Johnny Rico, Yells into a reporters camera "The only good bug is a dead bug". The team were all Starship Troopers fans. (they chose to remain anonymous when they said this, which is why i wont name names.)
@@ABardsBallad, yes, I know that Jack is another version of the name John, but John was his proper name, and Calico John doesn't sound very intimidating, lol
I'd still buy it as a loose connection. Surely the Adoring Fan was planned, but I wouldn't put it past some tired developer to tweak the model to match a recent movie character. EDIT: or saw the design from a friend. Lots of devs know other artists, and so forth.
I think the hobbit pants for the hobbit outfit are either the green felt pants or the breeches. Both heavily resemble the overall style we see of the hobbitian residents of the shire in the peter jackson films, though I also dont think that its inspired by any specific outfit, its just the overall vibes they got
It sound like an effective torture device. The nails should let just enough room to stand up without being able to move. But there are easier and faster ways to do that and a giant coffin with lots of nails would take a lot of effort to build.
@@cpt_nordbart my comment said nothing about whether or not it would work, but that it does not have any reliable historic sources proving it's use. It's possible effectivness at torture is irrelevant as it has no historic sources siting it's use.
@cpt_nordbart Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine when people try to use "logic" to excuse a complete lack of evidence. But that's not what you were really doing, because I didn't elaborate before hand. Sorry
@@ABardsBallad i love listening to your videos man, I keep em playing while im working on customer cars. Your shivering isles storytelling made me feel like I was going mad, doing the same things everyday lmao
A correction in pronouncing Béla Lugosi: It's more like bAElah luhGOHshe, the english wikipedia somehow made it szound like if it was "Lagoszí" , hope this helps.
The wiki kids seem a bit too critical, there's no 'proof' for most easter eggs in general. Edit: Yeah their responses reek of people who are obsessing over the tiny amount of power they've acquired. What does 'community verified' even mean other than approved by this group of randos?
Hey Bard, I know you're going to start one of the other games next, and wanted to say if you want a video editor/graphic designer intern, I would love to help out! I'm really loving the deep dives and want to be a part of them!
Morning Glory could also be a reference to the Oasis album "Whats the story morning glory?" (Who have funnily enough reunited and whose tickets are extortionate 😂) Also in Bravil Mages Guild there's a woman called Ita Rienus, think for a minute and say it fast lmao
Honestly I never thought of Marin’s speech as anything other than a LOTR reference to Aragorn’s speech in the Return of the King when he talks to the men of Gondor before the black gates of Mordor
I think people need to decide on what counts as an Easter egg or not. Like the "its named after a town or place" is but "named after an item or historical thing" isn't?
The dark brotherhood was based on the Catholic religion. Night mother is Mary, and the speaker is your priest. There is a video this somewhere. With the guy that wrote the quest line.
it's mentioned in the Darkbrotherhood section of PatricianTv's Oblivion Retrospective. (although you may be referencing a different video- this is what i believe you're referring to)
Shrek is probably Luronk gro-Glurzog, they have the same outfit, as for the missing horse dialogue and the fact of it being an Easter Egg/intentional reference or not, I have no clue, but it probably isn't.
Random Notes: "By the nine, stay on the road" Could be someone getting too cute with the parallels between Tolkein and Cyrodiil. It's the most plausible Easter Egg out of the first batch. But there's too much circumstantial evidence within Tamriel itself. It could only be a confirmed Easter Egg if the original writer said they phrased the dialog that way as a deliberate reference. Thalmor reference - this is an internal reference to the in-game world, so I don't see this as an Easter Egg at all. Gaiden Shinji is a definite Easter Egg, but which game does it belong to: Arena, Oblivion, ESO? "The only good commie/goblin is a dead commie/goblin." is more likely a FalloutTES reference than a historic cold war reference. Historically, it dates back at least as far as bigoted European/White attitudes toward the Native Americans during colonization and westward expansion of the US. Another "weak" Easter egg candidate that doesn't get mentioned is the Mage's guild member Eilonwy in Cheydinhal whose name matches Princess Eilonwy in The Chronicles of Prydain. This is most likely a coincidence because so many fantasy worlds, including Tolkein, draw on Celtic and Welsh influences.
If I want to make a cute Tolkien reference: Orcs in Elder Scrolls come from elves, are green, and seen as dumb brutes. Orcs in Tolkien's works are corrupted elves, green, and dumb brutes. Or it might just be that Bethesda is taking the stereotypical orc, which is sort of a creation of Tolkien (and most of his ideas are taken from preexisting folklore anyway)
Lorem ipsum you could call a trope at a stretch, but not an easter egg. "Ahh yes, if you look closely, you can see that this texture is a reference to a default Photoshop texture, such an easter egg." naw bro that's just a designer doing the minimum expected of their job.
You didn’t do my favorite Easter Egg 🥺 The Dark Chest of Wonders and Ring of the Oceanborn in The Shivering Isles. Dark Chest of Wonders was a song by the band called Nightwish, and they also produced an album called Oceanborn, those songs on said album are about slipping into insanity or madness.
Saying the line "wizards gathering in the Summerset Isles" is a reference to the Thalmor is like saying the quest "The Replicated Man" in Fallout 3 is a reference to the Institute. Bethesda didn't thought that far ahead. You don't put a reference to a major faction in one game into the previous game 6 years earlier. But I could see them realising CC content down the line that hints at upcoming games. As in, doing it later, not at release of the previous game.
I heavily disagree. The names of all the 5 major games and their settings were determined all the way back in 1994 (Arena -> Daggerfall -> Morrowind -> Oblivion -> Skyrim) [and then they were going to go with 'Argonia,' for the 6th game, but the majority of the original team is gone and I guess Todd and Emil decided to change the original plans for the 6th game]. The people at Bethesda definitely *did* think ahead-in fact: far ahead. And there is *countless* times in the older games where something is referenced or foreshadowed that happens in a future game. *Modern* Bethesda might not think that far ahead, but the original Bethesda team certainly did.
The psijic order HQ was the isle of arteum which vanished in the 4th era abit after the events of oblivion (3E 433) but they’re mentioned in pretty much every elder scrolls game before Skyrim directly, first account going back to the first era
One thing that i wonder if you think its an Easter egg or reference or not is elder scrolls arena and magic carpet by bullfrog after finishing a level the symbols very heavily reminds me of arenas mages guild outside of some of the guilds
Maiq the liar talks about dragons and stuff that's a reference to Skyrim it was a foreshadowing so it's not out of the realm of possibilities for the thalmor theory that they thought far ahead
2:05 syndrome is the name of the villain :| i am reframing from making a terrible joke here its torture i love your channel wish you grow bigger edit: CHEESE FOR THE CHEESE GOD
Just to clarify, the beginning of each entry is read from the original poster’s perspective, not mine! I am in fact not Australian unfortunately 😂
I am lol
Iam german, and i have no clue what fartarsen should be, no clue what the OP was talking about
There's no way people actually think that "Wither" is a reference to Minecraft. I know people are stupid but I had hopes they're not that stupid.
That one was one of my favs 😂 such a loose strange connection to make to Minecraft lol
Most people seem to believe that their initial exposure to a term or concept is also the origination of that term or concept. Simple things like facts and timelines don't exist to them.
that's like saying the word fortnight is a reference to the game, when it's actually a century old term to refer to a period of two weeks.
@@HappyBeezerStudios classic
Fin Gleam is great, but the downside is you have to wear an oblivion glass helmet, which has got to be one of the ugliest helmets in the series
Something about that blue tint that would just drive me crazy to wear all the time lol
Real shit
It's pretty bad, but I think Oblivions ebony helmet is worse
@@brandoncoleman673I was thinking about Oblivion while playing Morrowind and just remembered how much I disliked most of the later game equipment. Sorry, maybe in another decade
@@thescatologistcopromancer3936 I can see where you're coming from yeah. But I'd say for the most part that Skyrim had the most consistently good looking armour. There's only a few sets that I'd actually call ugly.
It makes me mad that people tried saying there are Minecraft references in oblivion
Don't you realise minecraft invented the word wither? Like it's so obvious, Jeez!
Those arena posters are less an easter egg and more like a direct reference. There is nothing hidden about those posters, quite the opposite.
The developers "not thinking that far ahead" is total BS. In Redguard, a game that came out in 1999, there is a cutscene that has 6 books all titled after the 6 then unreleased Elder Scrolls games.
In 1999, the names of the games Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim were all name-dropped. The final and 6th one, Argonia, is thought to have been the ESO Expansion. So I definitely think that the developers were thinking "that far ahead" when talking about Syndicates in the Shimmering Isles.
Totally agree!
I can go further.
In Arena we can see most hose names already. So they planned one game per province all the way back in 1994!
“You move like a pregnant cow” is actually a reference to “Remo Williams” where his master tells him “you move like a pregnant yak” while training him.
Knowing how Todd came up with a last minute art style change; if there's anything that resembles a LOTR reference is, in fact, a LOTR Easter egg
For the Boba Fett reference I am guessing it’s a situation where the two took inspiration from the same source (real medieval helmets), thus there’s some similarities.
I don't think every reference is an easter egg. Sometimes its just a reference.
For Belisarius I would agree. Belisarius was a legendary Byzantine general irl , defeated the goths, vandals, and Sassanids. Before his legendary exploits, he was personal bodyguard of Emperor Justinian I after serving time within the Byzantine/Roman Army. He reconquered Rome even.
Yeah I think there’s just too many parallels for it to be a coincidence!
I surely think he is a Refference at the very least.
Some of these "easter eggs" are actually so absurd that they're just funny xD
They were too good lol
Calling lorem ipsum an easter egg would be like writing down the latin alphabet and calling it a reference to the roman empire.
😂😂😂
According to a certain member of the Oblivion Writing team(i will not name names) The line "The only good goblin is a dead goblin" was actually a direct reference to the Starship Troopers film, in which Casper Van Dien's Character, Johnny Rico, Yells into a reporters camera "The only good bug is a dead bug". The team were all Starship Troopers fans. (they chose to remain anonymous when they said this, which is why i wont name names.)
Interesting! Didn’t know that!
"The only good goblin is a dead goblin, now let's make these goblins good!"
-Goblin Slayer Abridged
Goblin witness protection
With the quality and effort put into these videos I don't understand why this page only has 16,000 subs
I really appreciate the kind words! :)
The youtube algorithm works in mysterious ways.... one day the wave will come give him the attention he deserves.
It's John Rackham, Jack was his pirate name, Calico Jack
I feel like that’s a Tomato “TomAwto”scenario
@@ABardsBallad, yes, I know that Jack is another version of the name John, but John was his proper name, and Calico John doesn't sound very intimidating, lol
Thankyou for this video, i enjoyed it!
The villian from Incredibles is named Buddy as a child and Syndrome as an adult.
Buddy syndrome!
My cat's government name
I'd still buy it as a loose connection. Surely the Adoring Fan was planned, but I wouldn't put it past some tired developer to tweak the model to match a recent movie character.
EDIT: or saw the design from a friend. Lots of devs know other artists, and so forth.
I think the hobbit pants for the hobbit outfit are either the green felt pants or the breeches. Both heavily resemble the overall style we see of the hobbitian residents of the shire in the peter jackson films, though I also dont think that its inspired by any specific outfit, its just the overall vibes they got
19:19 Except that the 'iron maiden' isn't a historical device. I thought this was common knowledge by now?
It sound like an effective torture device. The nails should let just enough room to stand up without being able to move. But there are easier and faster ways to do that and a giant coffin with lots of nails would take a lot of effort to build.
@@cpt_nordbart my comment said nothing about whether or not it would work, but that it does not have any reliable historic sources proving it's use. It's possible effectivness at torture is irrelevant as it has no historic sources siting it's use.
@cpt_nordbart Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine when people try to use "logic" to excuse a complete lack of evidence. But that's not what you were really doing, because I didn't elaborate before hand. Sorry
Absolutely love the channel and a 2024 Oblivion UA-camr.
I really appreciate the support! :)
I've watched every video you've put out and I've gotta say, you are my favorite tes creator. I'm gonna have to play this game again.
I really appreciate the support and I’m glad to hear your liking the videos! :)
@@ABardsBallad i love listening to your videos man, I keep em playing while im working on customer cars. Your shivering isles storytelling made me feel like I was going mad, doing the same things everyday lmao
A correction in pronouncing Béla Lugosi: It's more like bAElah luhGOHshe, the english wikipedia somehow made it szound like if it was "Lagoszí" , hope this helps.
"Riddle in some references to The Hobbit" was a great quip
The wiki kids seem a bit too critical, there's no 'proof' for most easter eggs in general.
Edit: Yeah their responses reek of people who are obsessing over the tiny amount of power they've acquired. What does 'community verified' even mean other than approved by this group of randos?
😂 it means exactly that! Just those who could respond on the forum 10 years ago lol
@@ABardsBallad great videos BTW, my comment isn't a criticism of you
Internet wiki admins realising they can just lie and get away with it.
Sweet new video. Glad you did another Easter egg themed video
Me too! This one was a lot of fun to make and research!
Omg so hyped to watch another oblivion video! Yours are the best !!
OMG Thank youu for posting! I can finally sleep with your entertaining content and voice which makes a good sleeping pill.
I hope you enjoy it and have a good sleep my friend! :)
Im not sure if I should be insulted or flattered if someone told me my voice put them to sleep
@@grug7793 consider it a compliment because you are helping others sleep
Ok if I don't get a Shrek batman election, I'm going to be very disappointed
Hey Bard, I know you're going to start one of the other games next, and wanted to say if you want a video editor/graphic designer intern, I would love to help out! I'm really loving the deep dives and want to be a part of them!
I appreciate the support! And a very enticing offer! :)
You had me with the thumbnail
You’re the first one to comment on it 😂 I’ve been waiting for someone to call it out lol
Morning Glory could also be a reference to the Oasis album "Whats the story morning glory?"
(Who have funnily enough reunited and whose tickets are extortionate 😂)
Also in Bravil Mages Guild there's a woman called Ita Rienus, think for a minute and say it fast lmao
That’s interesting it could be! And that’s an amazing name lol
Honestly I never thought of Marin’s speech as anything other than a LOTR reference to Aragorn’s speech in the Return of the King when he talks to the men of Gondor before the black gates of Mordor
i really enjoy the style of your vids, very relaxing. what are you moving onto next after oblivion?
Thank you I appreciate it! Likely Morrowind soon, but I’m going to try and get everything out of Oblivion!
The only good elf is a dead elf. I like dead elves. - Ysgramor
Ysgramor was definitely against communism too 😂😉
You should watch Casablanca it is a great movie.
Youre australian? Holy those suvvin accents are getting wild!!
How ya going’ 😉 (that’s about all I know lol)
WAKE UP BABE New Bard's Ballad Oblivion video dropped!!
I hope you enjoy it! :)
*Bardlings
I think people need to decide on what counts as an Easter egg or not. Like the "its named after a town or place" is but "named after an item or historical thing" isn't?
The dark brotherhood was based on the Catholic religion. Night mother is Mary, and the speaker is your priest. There is a video this somewhere. With the guy that wrote the quest line.
That's cool
That’s really neat! I’ll have to take a look at it!
it's mentioned in the Darkbrotherhood section of PatricianTv's Oblivion Retrospective. (although you may be referencing a different video- this is what i believe you're referring to)
Typical Catholics.
I'm stunned that you're Australian. You must have lived in the US most of your life or be amazing at changing your accent
I apologize for the confusion 😂 I’m not Australian! I was reading the post written from an Australian! I’m Canadian actually!
This genre of video where someone reads a wiki over footage of the game is interesting.
SHREK BATMAN ERECTIONS ???
Shrek is probably Luronk gro-Glurzog, they have the same outfit, as for the missing horse dialogue and the fact of it being an Easter Egg/intentional reference or not, I have no clue, but it probably isn't.
Apparently some British people say "morning glory" instead of "morning wood"
Random Notes:
"By the nine, stay on the road" Could be someone getting too cute with the parallels between Tolkein and Cyrodiil. It's the most plausible Easter Egg out of the first batch. But there's too much circumstantial evidence within Tamriel itself. It could only be a confirmed Easter Egg if the original writer said they phrased the dialog that way as a deliberate reference.
Thalmor reference - this is an internal reference to the in-game world, so I don't see this as an Easter Egg at all.
Gaiden Shinji is a definite Easter Egg, but which game does it belong to: Arena, Oblivion, ESO?
"The only good commie/goblin is a dead commie/goblin." is more likely a FalloutTES reference than a historic cold war reference. Historically, it dates back at least as far as bigoted European/White attitudes toward the Native Americans during colonization and westward expansion of the US.
Another "weak" Easter egg candidate that doesn't get mentioned is the Mage's guild member Eilonwy in Cheydinhal whose name matches Princess Eilonwy in The Chronicles of Prydain. This is most likely a coincidence because so many fantasy worlds, including Tolkein, draw on Celtic and Welsh influences.
Very interesting pieces to think about! I appreciate it! :)
If I want to make a cute Tolkien reference:
Orcs in Elder Scrolls come from elves, are green, and seen as dumb brutes.
Orcs in Tolkien's works are corrupted elves, green, and dumb brutes.
Or it might just be that Bethesda is taking the stereotypical orc, which is sort of a creation of Tolkien (and most of his ideas are taken from preexisting folklore anyway)
Lorem ipsum you could call a trope at a stretch, but not an easter egg.
"Ahh yes, if you look closely, you can see that this texture is a reference to a default Photoshop texture, such an easter egg." naw bro that's just a designer doing the minimum expected of their job.
You didn’t do my favorite Easter Egg 🥺 The Dark Chest of Wonders and Ring of the Oceanborn in The Shivering Isles.
Dark Chest of Wonders was a song by the band called Nightwish, and they also produced an album called Oceanborn, those songs on said album are about slipping into insanity or madness.
Saying the line "wizards gathering in the Summerset Isles" is a reference to the Thalmor is like saying the quest "The Replicated Man" in Fallout 3 is a reference to the Institute.
Bethesda didn't thought that far ahead. You don't put a reference to a major faction in one game into the previous game 6 years earlier.
But I could see them realising CC content down the line that hints at upcoming games. As in, doing it later, not at release of the previous game.
I heavily disagree. The names of all the 5 major games and their settings were determined all the way back in 1994 (Arena -> Daggerfall -> Morrowind -> Oblivion -> Skyrim) [and then they were going to go with 'Argonia,' for the 6th game, but the majority of the original team is gone and I guess Todd and Emil decided to change the original plans for the 6th game].
The people at Bethesda definitely *did* think ahead-in fact: far ahead. And there is *countless* times in the older games where something is referenced or foreshadowed that happens in a future game.
*Modern* Bethesda might not think that far ahead, but the original Bethesda team certainly did.
That Renault one is a bit of a stretch, given that it's a pretty common French name and most Breton names are French.
Also for Claw, the main protagonist is an anthro cat pirate man, guess what franchise also has anthro cats as a race.
I didn’t even think about that one lol, very good point!
perfect timing :)
I hope you enjoy it! :)
Easter egg time! Hell yeah bro 😃
I hope you enjoy it! :)
Nice Video
I really appreciate it! :)
Is it possible that the “Thalmor” one could have referred to the Psijic Order? I can’t recall if they’re from the summerset isles
The psijic order HQ was the isle of arteum which vanished in the 4th era abit after the events of oblivion (3E 433) but they’re mentioned in pretty much every elder scrolls game before Skyrim directly, first account going back to the first era
One thing that i wonder if you think its an Easter egg or reference or not is elder scrolls arena and magic carpet by bullfrog after finishing a level the symbols very heavily reminds me of arenas mages guild outside of some of the guilds
1:56 the video can wait, you can surely look up the name 😂😅
edit: okay you say it later lol i don't even know what to say
😂 without looking I’m assuming that’s the Syndrome connection lol
Maiq the liar talks about dragons and stuff that's a reference to Skyrim it was a foreshadowing so it's not out of the realm of possibilities for the thalmor theory that they thought far ahead
The bard is true blue I love that so much 🤣 glad to see another Aussie doing this type of stuff
The Vahtacen was awesome lol! I loved the idea of it!
The band name one I believe is a easter egg
Definitely could be!
I just like hearing your voice.
But also, I like the content of this video.
It would be funny if all of these were true. Maybe the writer used "judge, jury, and executioner" because of Judge Dredd
NONE of these are even remotely 'easter eggs' or references.
This is a huge waste of everyone's time.
Okay then 👋
I love Easter Egg and secrets vids thank you!
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
2:05 syndrome is the name of the villain :| i am reframing from making a terrible joke here its torture
i love your channel wish you grow bigger
edit: CHEESE FOR THE CHEESE GOD