Will Dragon Ball Daima Make Super Saiyan 4 CANON?!!
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Who would've thought it would be vegeta with the first canon super Saiyan 3 win.
Which brings us to the premise of this video, I've made quite a few a videos talking about the idea of super Saiyan 4 being implemented into daima. Some of the reasoning for this stems from how every dragon ball series brings a new transformation and goku is always the one to showcase it.
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GT SSJ4 felt way more powerful than SSG & SSB have ever felt in Super..
Er no it didn't. SSG shook the universe while ssj4 did sweet f all
@nemanja162 In GT SS4 was more powerful than universal. Hell, Shenrons mere existence made the universe slowly decay. SS4 Gogeta was more powerful than that. Regular SS4 was just a bit less powerful than that.
SSB was said to shake the universe, but you don't quite get that feeling throughout Super as much as you did in GT.
Super sucks@@nemanja162
Nah
They could just make the new fusion unlock ssj4 so people don’t get mad that its just goku getting new forms and keep it fusion bug/demon realm exclusive only 👍🏻
That's actually a really good idea. Their fusion makes super saiyan 4, like goten and trucks reaching super saiyan 3 through fusion.
@ exactly
Just make gt canon but later SMH.
Fact: vegeta is the only one capable of using every form at its peak performance.
He truly masters every level of his forms and evolves them, while goku gains more, and focuses on individual forms to master or augment, both are amazing at this, and it shows their difference
Honestly, I think the best way to bring back ssj4 would be to give it to broly
It should go to vegeta then broly
Vegeta already has his ultra form it's definitely for broly, he doesnt need his tail cause he has ikari
@kingnukeomega this guy gets it
@kingnukeomega?
He has a version already
What Dragon Ball Super did lack was the adventuring and it's what hurt it in the long run.
super just had awful storyboarding
fr. every single arc was a single day in a single location
Idk why people want ssj4 here in daima. It makes no sense for it to be here. Just have a new fusion and or ssj form buffed with magic, thats it
I hope we get to see ssj3 kid Vegeta and Goku 1 more time in daima
Don't forget they said a new series is being worked on after Daima. This is setting up for something
It has to be Dragon Ball Super continuing after Broly @@Caleb-p4t
I'm sure it will super 2 is in the works
Daima loves showing off Gloria’s ssj4 like eyes, furthermore I believe the series gave us an early hint with the ware wolf character. It would be fresh if Goku uses the fusion bug with a demon from the actual demon realm.
I imagine the majins are going to eat the bugs to fuse and not Goku and vegeta
They been said no new transformations in daima. Honestly I feel like if we see ssj4 it’ll be Broly which will be his way of keeping up with vegeta, goku, and Gohan
Where
@ on one of the interviews With toriyama before he passed and daima released
I hope you’re right and Broly is the only one who gets ss4.
Edit: If ss4 even shows up
@@TraffyCorazoneme when I lie
It royally does my head in when titles imply it's official and canon, then it's.. again, just another fan theory. UA-cam is f*cking annoying for this. Clickbait everywhere. -_-;
@@Kerbaeus I can’t say too much but between you and me bud it is canon and remember I told you 😎
while i do want to see ss4 i think having it in daima will cheapen it i would personally like it to become like it was in GT as the ultimate saiyan form
I doubt that we'll get ssj4 in DAIMA only because of super, but I do think that we'll get a "teaser" for it. Something like goku temporarily using the same rage state broly used. My theory for a while has been that brolly will be the key to everyone unlocking ssj4 and that his ikari transformation is an unstable ssj4. And by that logic, gohans beast transformation could just be an incomplete ssj4.
Fair point. Call me dumb or crazy
I was never a fan of rageboosting for characters. It is fitting for Broly or gohan, because they are calm characters with a beast inside. But goku and vegeta alway use their full potential and push themselves
beast isnt a saiyan transformation. its the next step of ultimate gohan. its effectively potential unleashed 2 or 3 depending on how you look at it.
Ssj4 is already ikari....they brought the idea in the broly super movie
The bug could fuse 3 people.. piccolo vegeta and goku.. with piccolo’s genes they could regrow their tail
I agree with you and the 📷 video as a whole . Especially the genetic Saiyan hidden auto regrowth .
The writers of dragon ball seem to wing their stories and somewhat contradict themselves and the entire DB storyline. Don't think they're sure of themselves what direction they should be going with DB 🤔
you said supersayin dark blue was SLIGHTLY BEHIND .stop bro
How exciting it would be to see this form it will not do it justice. It will make it a lower level transformation compared to get SSGS, SSBS! SS4 should be more powerful than the God tier version if you ask me. I would love to see it but only for it to be a weaker version than I would like it to be. That’s a no for me. It would be for nothing if SS4 is just a transformation for the demon realm and its power is just higher than a SS3 but weaker than a Super Saiyan God. I don’t want that for SS4. I hope they don’t use it and do something different.
No they won't make ssj4 cannon in daima, that would definitely make lot of people angry and also retcon super, too risky. It's obvius they will show another fusion character either Vegito, Gogeta, or even someone new idk
A perfect video, Thanks MajinBird!!!
I hope they don’t add Ss4, just give us something new at this point like they have been don’t ruin Ss4 by changing its continuity in the timeline
I wonder if Shin having the ability to magically make Goku grow pointy ears is foreshadowing him giving Goku his tail but it may be temporary.
if they fused and goku went ssj3 id imagine it to have white long hair like ssj5 which would look cool ngl
I don't see any reason for that
@@mochimonarch he lowkey just said a leak
@airdraco3678 istg if we get another Gohan Blanco becoming cannon I'm expecting Super Saiyan Orange next
@airdraco3678leak from where?
@@mochimonarch wish Gohan attained ss3&ss4
ATAVISM!!! They could just rebrand it as an atavism that is achieved through these trials. They could also stack on a similar thing from Yusuke's atavism from Yu Yu Hakusho where the only reason he can achieve it is because of what his body went through as a spirit detective. The final trial could force Goku to lay down his life and that could trigger the change into a new variant of great ape which then forces the others to try and fight him until he regains control. And because he's not only mastered super saiyan, but also using God Ki as a mortal, he can transform by retaining his mind and learning to control this new great ape. Which wouldn't technically be SS4 but rather a true Super Saiyan God. This could also be the form that Yamoshi achieved but the legends after being passed down for thousands of years and from technically 2 different home worlds were misinformed. Considering what they've retconned already this wouldn't exactly be a stretch and would be able to establish the form as being able to stand above the previous forms that used God Ki. I just hope Vegeta gets it too just like in GT....eventually.
SSJ4 is impossible since Daima takes place before supper
No terrible take.
What say you about daima’s time frame before super
Y’all are gonna ruin the lore and hype of ssj4 by constantly beggin for it. Reasons like this is why dragon ball has become a complete shit show of fan service. We don’t need any more transformations. Keep ssj4 in gt. And it’s literally my favorite transformation and I’m saying this.
You know somebody is on bs when they start talking about Yamoshi im cryinggggg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I say just make Goku and Vegeta have a new transformation that they can only do in the demon realm
Imagine they add both a transformation for demons and ss4
Ss4 is goated in my opinion.
Hundred, my favourite transformation
With Ultra Ego Vegeta finally matched Goku.
Vegito is still foreshadowed so it’s most likely not ssj4
New form? Super = godly ki; Daima = demonic ki. Right? SSJ4 doesn't look demonic though.
well in dragon ball where goku was was fighting master roshi in the tournament and im talking about kid goku he instantly regrow his tail after roshi was getting a swing on him but that tail was cut off after he turned into a great ape when roshi took out the moon LOL I STILL TO THIS DAY wonder if ppl ever notice of powerful roshi is before piccolo came on the seen LOL but still yeah they can could that same rug pull and nobody would question it cuz goku has done it before and also the fact The Daizenshuu description is that the tail will often suddenly grow back if the Saiyan is in danger; such as when it did during Goku's match against Giran or for Gohan during the battle against Vegeta so yeah their no stressing over the fact how its done its just that ppl want ssj4 back and thats all that matters but still presentations matters
Bruhhhhh there's no Ss4 in Daima.
It makes sense that Vegeta reaches ss3 , because later on they're evenly matched in Super.
They're not gonna pull a nonsense ss4 transformation that would make no sense in the continuity of the Story. And yes Super is the only official continuity. NOT GT
Or it could happen after
5:12 they can just make fSJ OR SSJ5 BUT JUST CALL IT 4
If SS4 does get put into DAIMA then that confirms that SS4 is below SSG narratively.
Bro got this theory from his cheeks 😭🙏 but anyways this isn't true at all
No
@ yes
@@Bardocks_Fig_Collection it is true
@@TheMightOfGeburah you're own head cannon doesn't count lol
realistically a fusion of Goku and Supreme Kai would just be a purple skin version of Merged Zamasu since it was the same basis, except Zamasu was green.
That'll actually be quite interesting. Imagine having a polite (with Shin's speech pattern), but goofy (Goku) Zamasu-
Still in DBS Goku has not mastered SSJ3 so he basically abandoned it for SSJG
yall buggin it aint like he's never use it off screen
is Daima just GT through Akiras lense lol
He died I think.
i hope they let vegeta have his W FOR THE ONE TIME
they could make some sorta super saiyan four sign
Hopefully, they make Goku smart again and show off his battle iq. Like when he was fight Baby Vegeta
In my head cannon they will get a more animal like form since they have god ki,could have evil /demon ki and be more animalistic.Since they would probably do it as kid size and probably have more innocence,they won’t go wild
IMO ssj4 should’ve been used as the ssj God form👍🏽
Tbh SSG is Goku's one up on Vegeta, I don't think it'd be canon unless if it was like Ritual SSG and was temporary. I'd imagine it sort of being some sort of Majin spell mixed with Goku transforming, or Goku staring at some sort of demonic moon, but I think fusion is far more likely.
Or a Sayian demonic moon 🌚 🌝🌝🌚 or version of a 🌙 that relates to Sayians
@@AJ-kt5zo yeah das what i said ye
it ain’t happening
Bro hasnt seen the gear 5 goku leaks
No, Vegeta going SSJ3 is indeed a gimmick--the only reason Goku reached it was due to his intense time in the afterlife training endlessly against beings across the cosmos. And even then, he could barely control it. And even then, everyone knew immediately when he transformed, the energy pull being so great.
Vegeta suddenly and secretly having the ability is nothing short of fan pandering. It wasn't earned, it was just given.
Toriyama made Daima before he died? Did i wake up in the wrong place again?
It's not gonna be a transformation in daima, it's gonna be a fusion. They already showed the fusion bug.
i just want ss4 to be gold. never liked the color inconsistancy of golden oozaru to then black hair
I hope so ssj4 is my favorite transformation personally but i doubt they will ever adopt it
Have hope
Not happening
Never know it could
Super Saiyan Fur
Imagine super Saiyan fur activates the tail 🧬 genes
What if they unlock ssj4 with the evil third eye
Didn’t think of this but that would mean Gomah Isn’t the big bad even though he has the eye In the new episode.
I doubt ssg4 would happen here. The reason being that there has been foreshadowing to what new form Daima would showcase. In one of the earlier episodes, when goku gets glorio to by some medi bugs, he also bought some called Join Bugs. Which apparently allow any number of people who eat them near each other to fuse together. This will probably be how they defeat Gomoh.
Exactly my point, what is the point of fusion bugs if goku gets a new form and how are they gonna showcase a new form, a new fusion, fight with buu and kuu, fight with gomah and ending peaceful episode in just 4 × 20 min episodes
Super Saiyan Grade 4 is in fact weaker than Grade 3. It's just more efficient.
Cell's aura wasn't a Super Saiyan transformation.
Super Saiyan 4 wasn't unlocked as a result of compassion, though that was the catalyst. It's unlocked by controlling the Great Ape form.
Goten and Trunks didn't psychologically regress. That's what makes Chibi Goku different from Kid Goku in GT. The only reason Trunks and Goten were acting like children was because they still are children.
Why does this being a Toriyama show mean that Goku will certainly be stronger than Vegeta? That's never been the case before. Goku may always seem one step ahead. But that's it, only one step. And it's common for them to be on the same step for a while. In fact, it's not uncommon for Vegeta to be ahead. In the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta was the stronger, and would've won if it weren't for a team effort. Vegeta reached Grade 2 and 3 before Goku did, and didn't need a training partner to do it. Goku managed to reach SSJ3 thanks to training in the Other World where he never noticed the stamina drain, making Vegeta's SSJ3 likely more efficient. Goku was able to reach SSJ4 by regrowing his tail where Vegeta brute forced it without a tail. Goku reach Super Saiyan God through a ritual where Vegeta acquired it on his own. Where Goku managed to learn Ultra Instinct, Vegeta was able to develop his own power. And let's not forget the fact that Goku has never beaten Vegeta in a fight.
We actually don't know how strong SSJ4 is in relation to SSG. I'd be willing to grant that Super Saiyan Blue is stronger though.
I'm all for canonizing SSJ4. I'm just convinced that if it happens, it won't be in Daima. If it does happen in Daima though, and it's some form of demonic transformation, perhaps that can be an alternative to Super Saiyan rather than an evolution of it. And with it's demonic origins, perhaps Daima's SSJ4 can also have pointed ears.
You really love vegeta. But he turned ssj4 because a machine let him, he didn’t brute force it. Ultra ego is also something that happened by vegeta using the power of destruction, the same way goku developed his version of UI.
@@Dannyboy90ify When I was referring to Brute Force, I was referring to the machine. The point is that he was able to do it without a tail.
I'll grant that it's safe to assume that Ultra Ego uses the Power of Destruction. But that has never been confirmed. But that's not the point. Ultra Ego wasn't developed in the same way as Ultra Instinct. Ultra Instinct is just an ability, like Kaioken. Unlike Kaioken and Ultra Instinct, Ultra Ego IS a transformation. I suppose it's a transformation that happens whenever someone harnesses Destruction energy. But the transformation is unique to each individual. And on a side note, Ultra Ego is perfect for Vegeta because it's basically the polar opposite of Ultra Instinct. And that technically makes it different from anything a God of Destruction has, since GoDs can use UI, and UI and UE cannot coexist. So it's a power unique to Vegeta.
I feel like they should leave the rule of it bringing the person to their peak making them become adults again but only in ssj4 like it is
For those who say daima is non canaon because dbs vegeta doesn't have ssj 3
Remember what Vegeta said in buu arc he said it drain lot of energy it can't use for long combact or effective against powerful opponent
And that was same or similar reason grade 2 and 3 where never used by Vegeta or Goku and he even advice trunks about its downside in dbs
Now remember Vegeta Never used ssj god in series (ys he did in manga ) until broly arc and he always use strongest form ssj blue all the time
Why would a guy use a form that have a great down side when there is a better form on hand with less downside
Simple logic
I'm glad you're acknowledging the fact that Vegeta accomplished SSG Before Goku.
Trunks managed to turn his ssj2 into simular or equal power to gokus ssj3 in the anime, what makes you think Vegeta couldn't do the same and just doesnt like ssj3? Vegeta also coonsidered broky a warmup, against freiza he wanted to show freiza how strong he was and thought blue was gonna help him easily, every other arc he kinda had to fight full power or something wouldve happened. My head cannon is just vegeta trained ssj2 too as strong as gokus ssj3 or similar like trunks and made ssj2 have no stamina drain.
Gonna say, those arguing aboht canon in the comments, are the same ones that argue what toriyama stated with the promotional material, which being a canon movie, dbs broly, would have had to be approved by him, doesnt count.
ITS GONNA BE LSSJ
they might make Neva make it a one time transformation in the demon realm
I don't see ssj4 being canonized at all in daima but maybe it would be allowed only under some conditions beyond their own abilities
if Goku did fuse with shin it would be something like ssj5
I can say 100% we get no SSJ4. but a 3 person fusion with goku vegeta and piccolo and a special golden armor that makes goku look more "wu kong" like and gives him some magic. the armor was hidden/teased in some of the promo footage for diama and 3 person fusion was literally drawn on the sign for the fusion bugs. rather then giving goku a stronger form it makes more sense to give him an alternate one that is weak in normal combat so useless vs beerus. but gives resistance against things like being turned into candy.
I wanna note i do believe tails aren't gone, rather they just keep slicing them like shaving, it just takes time to regrow
While it doesn't grow for people like goten or trunks etc due to more human genetics
Doesn't explain why it regrew so easily for Gohan between 4 and 9
The tails don't grow back once a Saiyan reaches a certain level in power, therefore making the tails useless to continue being present. Goten, Trunks, Bulla, and Pan don't have tails because it's a recessive trait in hybrids, Gohan was a standout exception.
@@falconeshield 2 reasons, the first obvious one being plot (lmao) and the fact that Saiyan tails (according to Toriyama) are a recessive trait in hybrids, thus more likely than not, they won't be born with the tail. Gohan just ended up being the one to manifest that recessive trait.
@@acecashman1237 Fair point. Would be nice if they all grew tails 🐾🐾🐾🐾
Ss4 won't be in daima because it won't make sense cuz dragon ball daima happened before the events of dragon ball super and in dragon ball super ssj4 was never introduced in it
Brotha if goku gets a new form, what about the fusions? We only have 4 small 20 mins episodes left in which first they will fight buu and kuu and i doubt it they will defeat the majin bros in a single episode and then there is the main fight with gomah and ending episode with peace and everyone returning back to their original realm with everyone happy and adult and removing all of that only 1 episode remains of just 20 mins? How are they gonna showcase ssj 4 and fusion power in just 20 mins? It doesn't even make sense to me , y'all are yapping so hard , goku ain't getting a ssj 4 outta nowhere just like beast gohan, maybe the fusion would but ain't no time to introduce a new form and a new fusion in the same 20 mins episode , ain't no way logically, so you all can stop crying now, doesn't make sense at all
There's actually should be 1 more transformation from Goku or Vegeta that we haven't seen yet
I really don't want to watch Goku as a kid anymore. It was boring enough in GT and now they want us to sit thru that shit again... nah
They literally have God forms and yall getting hype for a lesser ss3 form? Why?
for goku to be able to revert back to to his mature self i think it would work out kinda like gotenks in ssj3 trunks and goten on theyre own cant reach this feet so they fuse so i think with enough power its possible i mean look at z broly hey 7'11 in base but turn damn near 10 in legendary
I mean it makes since vegeta never used it cause as goku stated it puts a great strain on there bodies so of course vegeta isn't gonna use it untill he was forced to
There will not be a ss4. They would pretty much be showing the gap between God and ss4. Heros though not cannon did it perfect. Ss4 was a little bit weaker then blue and ss4 limit breaker weaker that MUI. Leave ss4 alone.
Doo and kuu are 100% fusing to be Duku
I mean goku in a sense only had ssj3 similar to how he had ssj during the android saga before getting full power version
Look, I get the thematic quality of goku ALWAYS having a one up over vegeta even after ssj3 but ssj4 doesn’t seem like it. Stuff would’ve leaked by now homie
Ss4 in daima makes no sense since its before super. Sorry if you think about it even just a little.
They won't bring ssj4 since 1 is way too strong for daima and two we already getting bugs fusion, hope they call it veku for the memes.
I’ll keep saying this give ssj4 to Goten and Trunks Goku and Vegeta have no reason to gain the transformation bc of both the paths they are taking with Ui and Ultra Ego Goten and Trunks desperately needs something to help them stand out that isn’t Gotenks or the writers just keeping them as kids we literally have pan for that Gohan got his beast form ssj4 could be their form to catch up with the rest of the sayians and they could still amp the form with god ki to help them have a chance of surpassing or truly matching their fathers
Ssj4 might not be introduced into daima . Even if it gets introduced then goku will have yellow fur instead of red but green eyes instead of yellow
If Super Saiyan 4 does happen it's most likely not going to look like how it did in GT instead it's Super Saiyan 4 but with Akira Toriyama original design that to me will probably be a little more predictable but hey sky's the limit
What if gogeta tried to reach a new form. I mean Goten and trunks were just ssj1 and gotenks became ssj3. Gogeta or Vegeto never go above what goku or vegeta are.
But they don't have tails in Super though. :(
Baby couldn't become a SSJ4 because the body wasn't a pure Saiyan due to his parasitic Tuffle body corrupting it, not due to him being blinded by anger and hatred.
why do you make up headcannon
Baby literally turned ss3 and golden great ape he could’ve turned ss4 if that battle continued
It’s been stated manga wise that “love & compassion” is needed to achieve 4, and Baby was understandably a VERY angry individual😂
@@AreYouFNQRAZII damn, you got a point 😭
@@ssjmontana1659
When did baby turn ss3?
you talk too fast....
@@ThnkiT my bad lol
Are yall smoking crack? Ssj4 is not happening in Daima, what kind of ass backwards wishful thinking is this? Most likely scenario we're getting a fusion between someone most likely Ssj3 Vegito/Gogeta. Ssj4 is too legendary and iconic a form to be introduced in anyway just to never be used or mentioned again later in Super, it would be even more convulted than Vegeta never using Ssj3. It wouldn't be as epic as GTs Ssj4 anyway so why bother?
It would probably be more epic than gt ssj4
What if gokus staff is actually his tail??? Anyone?
Beast vegeta 3
Yep Super Saiyan 4 is way stronger than blue and God 😊
I think that ssj4 will not be in Diama simply because it the first transformation was in GT which is canon btw
Gt isn’t cannon anymore
What cannon
Bro are you slow
@im_bad_at_this6333 it’s literally shown at the end of Z wdym it’s not canon
@@dagger2702 how I watched dbz so I seen the end with the world tournament with goku vs uub
Why must they look like funco pops though.
Daima canon transformation it bee Fusion Vegito SSJ3 , in Daima it bee not SSJ4 sory forget it if Toyama do it it bee copy anime sery of GT no sens of it , Potara in all DB is not say how it is created
Goku will always one up vegeta but Goku never defeated vegeta one on one 😉
@@calfdot791 not true actually
Gt is better then DAIMA period n I’ma keep saying this 😂
I dont think ssj4 will apear in daima cuz no one uses it in super
Must be form connected to demon realm
Nah we are just gonna see ss3 vegito or gogeta watch
ss3 in daima looked more like a fan service than something earned; besides it has no explanation of why it happens , we know what trigger Goku to reach SSJ and we know what trigger Gohan to reach SS2, but SS3 was only told about: Goku learns it after years in the other world training, where time passes faster than in RL. but now all the sudden Vegeta reaches it with no explanations. I guess the reason they will explain it is just saying "he learn it in another world like goku; ss3 is linked to other world, so you can only reach it out universe 7, the end" .
the main reason why Goku was able to learn SSJ3 in Other World was because of his dead body being less prone to stamina fatigue, so he was able to push him harder and learn it in those 7 years, it wasn't because of different time passage. Once Goku is alive, SSJ3 wears him down a whole lot more.
@@acecashman1237 there is no official/cannon explanation of how or what are the conditions to archived ssj3, we only assume that what you said, and that is exactly the point i am making. Hell! even SSJ4 has a explanation of how its obtained, Osaru sees the earth in the sky from the moon, as simple of that, a simple hokus pocus way to indicate how it's obtained, but it's an explanation non the less... but SSJ3? nope, just Goku training a lot in the other world for 7 years, ALSO! remember in super, saijans in universe 6 could EASILY archive SSJ and SSJ2 because "a tingly sensation on their lower backs", but they could NOT achieve SSJ3; doesn't that tell us there MUST be a special condition for that transformation? one that has never been explained? i think there is, only that Toriyama never tell us and took to his grave. I say it's only obtained out the realm of the known universe, SSJ3 is only obtained either in the afterlife or the Dai Makai.
What's up y'all, I'm CJ. My first video on this channel, I really like your theory dude. One thing I want to add in, let's say they beat the baddie as we know they will. But when they wish for their adult bodies back, their tails come back as well. Just a thought to consider, considering they should have grown back when they became kids again and my opinion but hey, let's see what toyotaro gives us at the end of all of this. Great theory though my man
Not getting ssj4 in Daima and GT is canon simple.
Bro gt is not fucking canon
Ssj4 is not happening
Never know. But after diama