Fun fact: the Greek god of death is Thanatos, which I thought was funny. You may be thinking "wait the Greek god of death is Hades." No. He's god OF the dead. Thanatos kills people, Hades does the paperwork
@@nated8678 And he had to swallow his losses because he believed it was his destiny--because he sees himself as a grandiose hero on a journey who honestly thinks he's doing the right thing. Brilliant villain.
I mean he's just not intimidated by anything and only gets annoyed most of the time. His mind is constantly thinking about his next move so he can finally get to that farm in peace, everything that's gets in his way is meaningless to him, especially with the gauntlet.
I knew Thanos was perfect when 1. He DOES NOT lie, as bad his plan is, he knows it’s evil, but undertakes the task in a “noble” way in his own eyes. He is honest about it to himself and others. 2. He has NO CONTEMPT for the “avengers” specifically. He even lets some of them live, and some he even shows respect towards. He has no personal quarrel with them, they are simply an obstacle. As soon as he sees his task before him as greater than himself, he transcends the avengers and their little lives and motives. He is bigger than they are, more purpose-driven. His mission even transcends his OWN life.
The surprised look on Thanos's face after he snaps his fingers make me wonder if he included himself as a possibility in the random killing and he happened to survive. Or maybe he was just shocked that he finally managed to accomplish his goal. Either way it's an interesting scene.
The surprise he had after the snap and the vision of a young Gamora within the Soul Stone world, seem to suggest that not only was he a potential target, but that he was chosen and something about the gauntlet saved him. In the comics, when Thanos loses the gauntlet, Nebula picks it up and starts using it, despite being a near mindless zombie at the time. She reverses everything that had happened - including the snap - and proceeds to be assaulted by the remaining heroes and the combined might of the Celestials. However, Thanos notes that while she may have the gauntlet, she lacks the will to use it to its full potential, and that she is reacting mostly out of instinct. Because some of the gems are even sentient, he suggests that the infinity gauntlet itself was protecting her from attacks that would have otherwise easily defeated her. In the comic line "Illuminati" the group of the same name assemble the infinity gauntlet. Reed Richards is wearing the gauntlet at its completion, and everyone is holding their breath for what he might do, not having thought of the consequences of fully assembling the gauntlet in such a situation. For a moment, there is just strained confusion on Reed Richard's face before he finally says that he can't do it. He cannot will the gauntlet and the infinity gems to simply cease to be. The assembled gauntlet simply wont let it happen. The stones in the MCU are definitely less powerful than the gems in the comics, and the gauntlet itself seemed nearly destroyed by the act of unleashing its full wish-fulfilling power. Even so, if he really wanted to be preserved, he simply could have made it so. However, after having just watched a video about good villains needing good motivations, the motivation to preserve himself is quite lacking. Does he have a massive ego? Yes, but it was definitely taken down a notch after murdering the one person he loved the most in the universe. Does he think he is a god? Possibly but I doubt it. A god doesn't need an all powerful tool to do what he wants, and that smile at the beginning of the film to Loki's taunt wasn't one of "I will be a god, you can count on it" but more of a "you really have no idea what I really want, do you" sort of look. He doesn't clarify or argue, but then again, he rarely does for anyone he is outright going to kill. He doesn't argue with Loki, he just crushes his neck. He doesn't try to convince Gamora that he truly loves her, he simply bites back the pain and does the sacrifice. Interestingly, he even gives a soft and even reassuring speech to Tony Stark, who somehow received a non-lethal stab through the gut. Similarly for Wanda Maximoff when he consoles her for her sacrifice of Vision and yet despite clearly being the biggest threat of the entire team, he only swats her away AFTER she attacks him first. I would argue, to get back to the main point, that Thanos would have been very unlikely to have spared himself from the snap, mainly because the character we are shown throughout the movie isn't the type to do that. Indeed, he is more likely to do the reverse, seeing that preventing his own demise would fly in the face of his goal (that it is random, impartial, merciful, which to someone who has suffered as much, he would consider it mercy to be wiped away). The belief that he is utterly right in his goal, that level of ego, would prevent him from excluding himself. However, the icing on the cake is such, that as high as his ego is, it is not so high, that he doesn't have remorse or doubt, both shown brilliantly after the snap, when he shows genuine surprise at surviving, and genuine remorse at all of the sacrifices he had to make in order to get to that point.
Great point! This is exactly what I thought. Thanos didn't look valiant and successful, he looked very much confused and disoriented. Thor's reaction actually cemented that scene for me. In that moment, Thor had NO idea what that snap did but it made him instantly chastise Thanos and halt his attack. In those fleeting seconds, time was suspended and reality itself was warped. Thanos gave no response and simple left... Brilliant scene. Ponder away fanboys. Lol
I guess that he just realized the stupidity of his whole mission cuz in a few centuries the population will be the same it was before the snap! Actually it's a simple evolutionary fact that whenever there are more resources the population grows faster, so I guess in the case of humans, we'll be the same number in max 200 years!
Any villain is the hero when you look at the world from his perspective as long as the villain is deluded enough. Thanos is a crazy dude who was driven mad by his entire planet "Lord of the Fly"-ing themselves off the face of the universe. His plan doesn't make sense to anyone with their sanity still intact, but it does to him. At least, that's the only explanation I could find for his plan making no sense if you think about it for more than a minute.
Back in 2008, Thanos was only known inside the geek circles. Now he's among the greatest and most iconic villains of all time, among Darth Vader, and Heath Ledger's Joker.
Thanos is comparable to Joker when it comes to being a great villain. One is a psychological maniac whose goals you'll always wonder what, and one is a survivor and does what he thinks is right to save others.
Can we all just appreciate the fact that a studio, for the first time I know of, hyped a major film up for years, building up to it for a very long time, and actually didn’t mess anything up and made an almost flawless film? Edit: WHAT? Since when do I have almost 2k likes? Thanks everyone!
@@Grimloxz Exactly but according to the directors the test screenings were so good no one got up to use the bathroom despite the movie clocking in at 3hrs so Endgame might top Infinty War and if it does we might just have the best comicbook movie since TDK, maybe even better.
If they made a movie focused on Thanos when he first started on his path, I'd watch it. Would be interesting to see Thanos grow into the Mad Titan we all know.
Josh Blount yeah, i feel like the way he grew up and how the people around him treated him/their planet was why he is the way he is. It’s the same with the new joker, Gotham has destroyed him and themselves and he wants to bring a needed change regardless of if it’s evil or not
I like how he said he did what he said he’d do. He didn’t trust himself to keep the stones out of pure temptation so he destroys them. Then he goes off to live an honest farm life in a cabin.
the story of Cincinataus comes to mind here, a man who did what he had to do, (Lead rome as an elected autocrat in a war) and once it was done, he walked away and went back to his farm. it was expected of him back then, but as we know now, that is a rare thing.
Didn’t he realize that eventually the population would continue to procriate and comeback to the way it was before the snap? He destroyed the stones so how would he or someone solve the problem then?
Yea he was living a peaceful farm life....before the avengers rolled up to his crib and ended him. I mean am I the only one who thought that was messed up?? Even for the avengers!!
@@cucabeludo3596 Bruh you cannot be so sure about that. What if in a planet only males were left over after the snap. And even if it does have a chance to come back then, how long would that even take.
Avengers Endgame was a better film than Avenger's Infinity War. A lot less ridiculously absurd writing in its plot, and a closure story for the main Avenger's characters.
@@LordMalice6d9 infinity war is better than endgame in just about every way. Unless you think time travel, nebula network syncing and all the other randomness in the movie counts as good writing.
They had to make Thanos great...And they did. So, all the prior marvel movies they have tried focusing on the heroes and developing the heroes...Some movies did better than others, but with infinity war they had SO MANY main characters it was the wise choice to focus on the villain...And they did it right.
Well yeah, that makes sense. But there's no reason that villains couldn't be as deep or interesting as Thanos. Iron Man 2's villain played by Mickey Rourke could've been more, in fact the actor was disappointed that his character was so one dimensional. Had he have been better written, he could've provided more character development for Tony Stark as a result.
Very good point. Thanos was the one thread that actually connected every single one of these characters. He's the one character that almost ever hero meets.
@@Khalirei Well, thanks to dinner buying fox, we now have a whole lot of new villains that they can use and do right. I am very exited for when they introduce one of the best and hilarious villains into the MCU and finally do him justice on the big screen. Doctor Doom.
@@TheLoneChemistWhat is your opinion on Dr. Emma Russell from Godzilla: King of the Monsters, whose plan was similar to Thanos' plan in Infinity War. Most people criticized her for the same reasons you say that Thanos is perfectly written.
Thanos in Infinity War: *Just wants the stones. Is more or less initially friendly to the Avengers until they attack him.* Thanos in Endgame: "I'm about to end this whole universe's career."
@@daemonace5910 Yeah, he was exposed to the fact that his life's work was about to be completely nullified by the Avengers, who he did not even know. With Nebula's recording he knew exactly how much he sacrificed for it and how persisten the avengers were in getting in his way. He was pissed, they made it personal.
He still was altruistic. He wanted to destroy the universe to build a utopia in the ashes after he realized that snapping half of life out of existence would fail. He believed that the universe was beyond repair in Endgame.
@@aster1sk294 That's the sad part. Imagine if they kept Thanos the main character of Endgame indirectly, with the last fight scene not ending with silent Thanos, but a thanos that realized he was in the wrong.
Daemon Ace He's the same guy. His motivation is the only thing that changed. He was just going to go the extra yard and just rewrite everything in his perfect view. No one remembers the snap, the universe is balanced, and no one can stop him.
Thanos in Infinity War: *Perfectly written villain* Thanos in Endgame: Woah buddy, this could have been a spoiler for Endgame. You better be more careful when browsing through the comments
What I don't get is that Thanos talks about calculus yet he doesn't get that halving the population ONCE is only a temporary measure as he states himself - life will exponentially grow again to reach the same problem later. I mean WTF... you can't just use the snap once. You need to basically do it ad infinitum if you believe his "solution".
Thanos made the planet himself using the stones. The Russos have officially said it's called "Titan II" based off of how Thanos's home planet looked before it got destroyed.
@@ProlificPops Why didn't he make more planets instead of killing half the universe and why was he living by himself on the planet he created? There must have been resources and space for at least a few more people on that planet.
A little late to the discussion, but another thing that makes Thanos stand out to me is that his sacrificial conviction is exactly what the heroes lack. He is willing to, and does, make sacrifices for his goals, while the heroes repeatedly pull their punches at the most critical moment, leading to their defeat. Although he's deeply flawed and definitely worthy of hate, he has an attribute that the heroes don't that could be seen as noble, depending on where you're standing. And what really drives it home is that the conclusion of the film doesn't give us any reassurances. Did the heroes earn their failure? Is their unwillingness to make sacrifices a noble ideal, or selfishly naive? Is it even that simple?
+AM Journal Disagree , the heroic archetype is strongly based on *literal , tangible* SELF-sacrifice , heroism much like love has its roots on putting the others before one-self but in a much broader way , Thanos is willing to sacrifice others for his goals , but his version of sacrifice is a more "cultural" version if you will , since he is sacrificing individuals that are very important to him , and in most human societies , that does count as part of one's own individualism. Thanos wouldn't sacrifice himself for the cause because ultimately , he values himself as much as his mission , or perhaps higher , he even states that he is the only one capable and willing. The nobility is in him sticking to the plan with or without hesitation , and not being sadistic , the nobility doesn't actually come from being willing to sacrifice others for his own cause. If anything the classic nobility that we've been completly de-sensitized from of the heros is much stronger and purer , which is why they're heros and Thanos is the villain.
@@juanme555 Yeah, definitely, you make a good point! I still think that the main downfall that the heroes fall prey to is their refusal to let their friends make voluntary sacrifices that may have been their only way of beating Thanos (though that's debatable, I suppose). It's a weird thing to think about, because, arguably, refusing to let one's friends die could be noble, but then, it could be selfish, if it costs the lives of others (which it does). Is it better to save the people you care about, or let them make the choice to give their life for the good of others? Which is more noble? We'll have to see how it shakes out in Endgame. It's just a shocking thing to see presented in a movie, none of the heroes being able to do what's necessary to beat the villain even when they have the chance and losing outright because of it. (Thor's failure to kill Thanos in time for instance, and I think there are several other similar moments.)
One more thing you should have addded is his integrity and honesty. He never lies. His commitment for truth makes his character more strong and respectable.
STOP STOP Yeah, I heard that from someone else (didn’t read the comics myself), but that sounds infinitely more interesting than “balance” Thanos. Killing one half of a population doesn’t fix overpopulation, it just restarts the process, until the population numbers correct themselves. Contrarily, death obsessed Thanos would have been interesting and could be explored in many different ways (he could be a cynic and kill everyone to end their miserable lives, he could be a sadist/sociopath and so it for the joy of killing, it could be a cult things like the Faceless Men in Game of Thrones, maybe he’s vengeful because everyone in his planet was killed and wants to avenge them by killing everyone, etc).
The cinema I saw Infinity War with all walked out in complete silence. Not a word. It was a really somber ending and we all just....left. Nobody felt like cracking a joke or talking about their favourite scene. Such a good movie, a superb villain (kudos Josh Brolin) and a great ending!
@@HowIsAsh Actually, that's not completely true. There's a video on UA-cam that goes through how, at least on Earth, we wouldn't grow back to where we were at due to life and economic reasons etc.
@pyropulse People mindset is different now. They would be too focused in rebuilding to have children, just like they are too focused in their careers to have children now
I agree. Thanos is brilliant. When watching the films for the first time I felt that there really was no way to beat him. He was so driven and strong. Actually felt powerful, unlike most villains
STONEMATT agreed that Redfords performance was very good. I just didn’t find his motives that compelling. But, like the rest of the video, just my personal preference. Thanks so much for watching!!
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The reason he's so popular is he actually feels human, even though he's not. He's not evil for the sake of being evil. He goes by a philosophy and goes by his beliefs. He has compassion, even for those he defeats. He's never seen gloating or having an ego, he only fights if there's a need to. And once he accomplishes his goals he rests and finds peace, nothing more. He doesn't see himself as evil, he doesn't want to destroy life. He wants it to flourish and thrive, and he believes his methods are necessary for that to happen. There's tons more that can be said about the character but I'll end it here. He's the best on screen villian I've seen in any superhero movie to date.
Hitler didnt view himself as evil either. Ironically that's kinda what made him extra evil. "You're wrong and you think you're right, that makes you dangerous" ~ Spiderman
In the end of first endgame , when thanos sat and just looked at the sunset after the half world ended was really powerful moment , that’s why he was a great villian , he had great personality - dark and twisted but great
The ending of Infinity War is so darkly beautiful that I honestly wish that was wrap for the MCU. The hero sits watching a sunrise on grateful galaxy, having lost a lot, but gained peace.
James Trvck I feel exactly the same way. I realized a while ago that I don’t think endgame will impress me more than infinity war, even tho I will still see endgame, IW absolutely blew all of my expectations out of the water. Endgame will probably not do that since we all know this is supposed to be the movie that will bring the dead ones back
Zam weazle that’s what he says he would do after he accomplished his goal; he’d watch a sunrise on a grateful universe. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true, but from the hero of the stories view it is.
I feel like Zemo was a better villain than Thanos. His character was easier to relate to, he used no super powers to manipulate everyone, and basically succeeded in breaking apart the Avengers. The events of Age of Ultron killed his family which gives the viewer a total understanding of why he would want to do what he does. I love Infinity War, but the moment Tony Stark sees his parents killed by Bucky in Civil War makes it the best Marvel film so far.
Christopher Pauley Thanos is automatically better because for someone as powerful as he was, his goal still required sacrifice... a major one at that. Zemo was already an empty vessel with nothing to lose.
@@BillykOTW The quality of the moments of "sacrifice" feel almost fake. "This day takes a heavy toll" the tears for Gomora. Those moments feel like something someone just put in because they knew that had to. Moments like when he just slaughtered the collector without hesitation or snapped lokis neck - that's Thanos' character. Sorry don't agree...
“I’m the only one who knows that. At least I am the only one with the will to act on it.” I know there is more to thanos than just that line but I still think that line sums him up.
@Jonnathan Crane here in Italy they changed it in ineluctable and it really fits him we aren't even mad because during it's projection in theaters the search for this strange word spiked all around the nation a we started using and appreciating this word lol
I'll add that Thanos would not want to double the resources because it defeats the purpose. He believes the universe is imbalanced because its inhabitants have a natural culture of excess that makes them mismanage their available resources. Doubling them would make this trend even worse and would lead to even further imbalance down the line. Therefore the only practical solution is the extreme one of wiping out half of life. As far as Thanos is concerned, that is the only approach that has actually worked, and therefore that is his destiny to carry it out on a universal scale.
He could have made a second universe to send half the population to, he could have changed the minds of the entire universe to his philosophy, or he could have doubled the size of planets. He's omnipotent, he could've done anything.
And given that he probably saw the extinction of his own people - The Titans - due to their inability to resolve their own recourse crisis which lead to their species inevitable collapse - The Titans were basically Marvel's equivalent to the New Gods of the DC Universe - probably cemented this as the only viable option.
i liked infinity war much more than end game because i didn't know what would happen. thanos could win or lose. in end game i knew that thanos would lose and i don't feel as connected the the heroes as i do with thanos. i sort of started to dislike the avengers at the start of end game when everyone just ganged up on him when he was unarmed and did not show any signs to attack. thanos is one of the few villains i really like, along with handsome jack and lelouch
I liked infinity war more too, but I still find it hard to compare them since they have such different goals. Infinity war was basically the setup to the culmination, so it gives room for a lot more anticipation since it's not the end yet. Endgame was the culmination so they had a lot more to tackle in order to finally wrap the entire 11 years up which is probably why it felt so conveluded compared to IW.
Thanos: The universe is finite, I must eliminate half of the population if it is to survive. *SNAP* (Sixty years later - Population doubles back to original levels) Thanos: Do you think this is a ***** game?!
He wiped out half the universe because of a Malthusian proposition which could be overcome with a little creativity and something as strong as the infinity stones (Instead of wiping out half the universe, why not just make some more planets?). Killing half the universe seems like taking the easy way out. Oh yeah, and after wiping out half the universe, he goes and lives on a planet by himself. Guess Thanos doesn't practice what he preaches.
@Slow Motion Wiping out half the population or doubling the amount of resources have the same effect. Eventually populations will rise and you'll be in the same situation.However, unlike creating new planets, repeatedly killing half the population can be done indefinitely. You cannot indefinitely create new planets, eventually some areas will become too clustered, and any life in those areas will suffer the problems of what creating new planets was supposed to solve.
The reason Thanos doesn’t double resources is because your just increasing the problem. More resources = more mouths. More mouths = more mouths to feed. You just created a bigger problem and next time Thanos won’t be around to stop it.
@@danker9161 remember we are at a time where we’re working on being better for the planet and we know what we should do and we know we’re over overpopulated if you wipe out half of humans it’ll make the job easier
That doesn't make any sense. Increasing the resources *INCREASES* the standards of living, not the other way around. More resources equals less time and effort needed to obtain said resources, thus more time spent on the quality of life. Also, according to Endgame, the universe originally had 10 trillion souls before the snap. Our solar system can support over 10 *QUADRILLION* people and their standards of living would be *LEAGUES* better than the richest people on Earth. Assuming that a habitable Earth-like planet exists around every star in the galaxy and you spread those 10 quadrillion people across those worlds, they would populate the entire galaxy several times over. There's no shortage of resources anytime soon. Or he could just change reality so that resources work infinitely or make everyone immortal, but no character brings that up in the movie because the story would fall apart instantaneously. Thanos has all this power but he ends up underutilizing said powers in the worst way possible.
@@danker9161 If you like science, futurism, and realistic portrayals of sci-fi tropes, I highly recommend the UA-cam channel Isaac Arthur. That's where I got most of my knowledge from. He criticizes Thanos' plan in one of his videos, the Dyson Dilemma version 2 video, if I remember it correctly.
@@gstxd Oh, so you are telling me that there's a limit despite the fact that one of those stones can manipulate reality itself? Yeah, I'm going to call BS on that one.
Instead of screaming for vengeance, Thanos's last moment was just looking at Tony with a face full of sorrow like he think he had failed the universe. The MCU Thanos IS the best version of Thanos since the comic books are often portrayed him as an arrogant tyrant.
He wiped out half the universe because of a Malthusian proposition which could be overcome with a little creativity and something as strong as the infinity stones (Instead of wiping out half the universe, why not just make some more planets?). Killing half the universe seems like taking the easy way out. Oh yeah, and after wiping out half the universe, he goes and lives on a planet by himself. Guess Thanos doesn't practice what he preaches.
@@leowtyx There is plenty of particulate matter in the universe that hasn't coalesced into anything of use, bring it together and make a bunch of planets. First use the time stone to speed up the expansion of the universe and make a little room if needed. Seriously though he could have let a few people live on that planet with him.
I actually really liked Ronan and thought he’d be a very memorable villain if he had gotten a little more on screen development. He mentions how the Xandarians had waged war against his people and had slaughtered several generations of his family. I would’ve liked to see his upbringing, growing up surrounded by constant war, shaping him into the being of pure hatred we see on screen.
The smile at the end was very well done, it wasn't smug like most villains but almost like an old man finally retiring after decades of working hard to achieve his end goal. very good video i'm glad someone put into words how well this performance was.
Beautifully said. I already thought Thanos was the best villain, but my friend didn't agree. This video was enjoyable to watch because you explained perfectly why I love this character. You also mentioned something that I hadn't realized before: the peace at the end of the movie. The ending is very chilling, but you're right. There is a peacefulness to it because we know our protagonist won.
@Ronald McDouchebag ...Did you just not watch Endgame or what? Because, that was literally 2014 Thanos' plan. To destroy the Universe, and to become the god of a new one.
Neither had a plan that made any sense if you thought about it for more than 2 seconds, but they were both played by impressive, charismatic actors who brought their A-game. They were cinematically good villains, but not narratively.
Word! I agree to a certain extent, but I think that just comes down to the villain having relatable motives. Many villains are intentionally over the top, so it makes it difficult for the viewer to imagine their actions applied to their own life. If the villain is relatable, then no matter what the actions are, they can be somewhat sympathetic and therefore effective. Hope you liked the video, my dude!
Hey there's a monument in the middle of America that states that one of the main goals of humanity is to seek balance with nature and reduce the population of the world to 500m.... seems like Thanos is rather soft on population control compared to that.
Both of his deaths in Endgame made me genuinely bad for him. 1st one: He has assumed at this point the universe is happy, grateful for what he’s done. He lives as a humble man farming and knows he will be blinded with power so he doesn’t become a tyrannical god. He is then killed cold blood for doing nothing but believe what he did right. He sacrificed everything, his army in Wakanda, his daughter, his main crew.It’s like working your entire life for something, something heroic, something that will save the planet. Soon to realise the people you saved aren’t grateful and kill you in cold blood. 2nd one: He has at this point knows his destiny. He knows what he’s going to do is right and nothing to stop him. He then watches his entire army vanish before him. Everything he worked for, everyone he worked with, vanish in his eyes. At this point, he’s done nothing wrong except for the fact of destroying (saving) planets. Planet by planet, to then realise what you will do will be worth nothing, the people you save won’t be grateful. He seeks to become a god over a new universe and is again killed for doing what he thinks is right.
Yeah but he killed trillions on earth and in other planets he took away Hawaii's family and so may others families he forced his will to thousands planet and killed his daughter it's not nothing
The top 5 best written movie antagonists (in my opinion) based on character complexity: 5. Darth Vader 4. Hannibal Lecter 3. Thanos 2. Anton Chigurh 1. The Joker (Heath Ledger) An argument could be made for swapping Thanos and Chigurh. Thanos is certainly more complex than Chigurh; Chigurh is simply an unrelenting force whose presence is omnipresent. Chigurh is written in such a way that he accomplishes this with next to nothing, while Thanos, who has everything, never quite reaches omnipresence. For this reason, I gave a slight preference to Chigurh. It could go either way tho.
Thanos in the MCU doesnt make any sense to me at all. He basically wants to get rid of half the people alive, so that there will be more resources available to the people that are left, right? And he eventually gets the infinity stones to do it, because if you have all the stones you can basically do anything. So why not just use the stones to double the resources... or even triple them ect.. instead of killing half the universe? If you kill half the universes population, they will just breed themselves back up to the original number anyway given enough time, especially with the surplus resources. All hes done is put a temporary baindaid on the problem, at the cost of trillions of lives and the sorrow that comes with it. In the comics he wants to kill half the universe because he wants to create a massive amount of death to impress Death herself, the entity he is in love with, and because hes the mad Titan. Im not going to say which motivation is better, but the MCU version doesnt really make sense.
Yeah, when watching this I couldn't help but think of Zemo. Really interesting villain. Although I still think Thanos is the better written of the two after this video, maybe I'll go back and rewatch Civil War and think about it more!
Poorly written villain, he had potential and didn’t live up just because of the fact that if you questioned his plan at all it was an awful plan and everything needed to go perfect to happen
Colin Martin your own argument collapsed from the second you said it was an awful plan. He did exactly what he planned to do. Break the avengers apart. There wasn’t enough screen time of him for him to be critiqued as badly written. Plus I hear they want to bring him back so I’m sure they’ll do more than what he was intended for...
Thanos Far From Home Villain Killmonger Vulture Loki Zemo Spider-Man has had the most consistent streak of good villains so far. Even the Tobey version. That's a pretty awesome thing.
Thanos is such an amazing villain, and it was kind of a downer when he was used more as a 1-dimensional plot device rather than the decisive methodical evil he was built up to be. Although Endgame is arguably a more fun and entertaining experience (especially for veterans) I feel that infinity war is more stable writing wise
Truthfully. Endgame is the slightly better written movie, albeit both movies are over-hyped "event" films because of mostly fanboys, that never really come close to achieving true heights of greatness or cinematic masterpieces. At most, they are fun popcorn flicks with enjoyable characters.
I don't think thanos is a villan, he's more anti-villan with a purpose to make the world balanced with everyone against him and his ideas he is deemed to be a _mad titan_ He's just misunderstood
This entire video is fantastic. Probably the best analysis of Thanos' character I've come across anywhere so far. You are spot-on and acknowledged every single reason why Thanos is one of the best film villains ever. And as a writer, you gave me a lot to think about when I craft my own villains. Had to subscribe to you after watching this. I'm looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
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@@69mviewsnt Thanos is the protagonist of Infinity War, his goal was to wipe half of the universe and the movie shows his progress of getting there. In that sense, it is a proper ending.
@@MinedMoviez no it doesn't. did you know where the part when the superhero actually lose and then they manage to wake up and win? it is in every superhero plot. Thanos win is the middle part. Endgame is the Ending. Infinity War? more like Endgame Part 1 I have something in my mind that always says Endgame success in critics is also 1 in a 14, 000 506. But who knows. i just want another good overrated movie by Marvel after Infinity War that doesn't has an ending
@@69mviewsnt His saying it's the end of Thanos' story the end of in Thanos' opinion his journey. Endgame is the end but the end for the Infinity war series, infinity war was the end of Thanos' story.
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The best villain of recent years was most definitely Nolan’s/Ledger’s Joker. And he is neither relatable nor sympathetic. In fact, the ‘ungraspability’ (i.e. exact contrary of relatability) of the character is the main driver of its success
Thanos was an amazing character in the comic, but the exact motivation wouldn't have translated to screen. They made him a flesh and blood person, with cold logic, but feelings too. Fascinating and very well done. Can't wait for Endgame.
I also love how he never yells, or raises his voice. Sure when he was fighting he screamed, but that's not what I meant. Almost every villain has to be this crazy, over the top, lunatic that screams all the time to enforce his authority. But not Thanos. He's alpha. He doesn't need to raise his voice to prove a point.
I'm surprised this video hasn't given you a boom in subs. This was one of the most detailed dissections of a single character - albeit a now legendary one - and if this is what I'm to expect when I see more of your channel, then I hope others will come to see it the way I do
I thought the reason why he couldn't double resources was because you can't create or get rid of matter similiar to the law of conservation. Which is also why when the people dies they became dust instead of completely going away. Also I wanted to say, great video. I enjoyed it!
Well first off there are plenty of things in the universe that aren't useful resources, so why couldn't he transform sand, random rocks, useless gasses etc into food and combustable components etc? He can definitely do it. Second, he has the reality stone, he can alter the friggin law of conservation since that's definitely a part of reality. Third, killing off half the population would certainly result in further secondary deaths as I imagine hundreds of thousands (on earth alone) would die from accidents, riots and people taking advantage to commit cold blooded murder Fourth, this won't solve the problem, it would simply delay it till the population grows again
@@brandonakabdawg Then why not come up with something that produces an exponential growth of resources? Infinite energy/food sources? The limit is effectively his imagination, and he chooses the solution driven by his psychosis from failing to save his world
@@nakliid5652 no actualy stalin is drunk right now and hitler is raping a jew mussolini is at the barber i bet he will be bald soon :/ churchill is yelling at his radio for no reason hes talking about like never surrender or something idk no thanos actualy used his stones to get out of hell but satan is a real nice guy for real dude (PS one question) how is china doing know?
Kevin Feige says that the MCU tries to stay as close to the realm of possibility as possible. As such, Thanos can't double resources because matter cannot be created or destroyed.
then the "snap" has no sense. Well, truth be told, the way they scripted Thanos, his plan has no sense in any case, since with his now infinite power he can pilot the history of every single civilization in the universe to avoid excesses, but hey, the greatest mass murder in history is much more simpler, while badly justified.
@Pan Darius Kairos You're stupid. The writers could easily come up with countless justifications for why Thanos couldn't just double the resources. Each habitable planet has a carrying capacity for a start and even if you dump more resources on it, it might not solve that problem. You're also making the same dumb assumption all you people make which is that the gauntlet gives him total omnipotence and omniscience which is never stated nor demonstrated. The snap alone largely destroyed the gauntlet, it was smoking and ruined, so if just killing half of all life did that to the gauntlet, transforming gazillions of tons of matter could easily just be beyond the abilities of the gauntlet. The assumption any rational viewer would make is that Thanos did his research and knew the limits and potential of the infinity gauntlet and determined that snapping half of life out of existence was the only way. Maybe he was callous and there was some other solution, but all you people with your super simple explanations of "durr just make more stuff" are just making all these assumptions and you didn't pay attention to the movie and you're not as smart as you think you are. As far as population growth, maybe the snap is not a permanent solution, but seeing as Titan was totally destroyed and presumably the race Thanos belonged to went largely extinct, he sees it as necessary to prevent that from happening everywhere else.
@Pan Darius Kairos He actually says that part of killing half of all living things is to teach the remaining half to cherish what they have. On Gamora's home world, there is no reason that killing half of all life would suddenly make for full bellies and clear skies. You would need to kill a lot more people than 50% for that to happen, like with the near 90% for the various Native American peoples that were wiped out from disease. Their societal and economic collapse was so severe, it caused a mini ice age in Europe. Perhaps he thought creating a villain that would unite the universe would make for reduced wars, or perhaps he thought that those who have lost loved ones would cherish what life they did have left. A rather naive position to have for such an intelligent being. However, I suspect that the Mind Stone has lone since done away with reason and warped his tragedy into an obsession. He is evil - not stupid.
I love how honest he is. You don't doubt for a second that he truly believes that what he's doing is noble. Also, he doesn't immediately kill the heroes. He could have if he really wanted to but that wasn't his goal. He probably understood that the Avengers were good people doing what they thought was right, so he only tried to kill them if they kept on trying to stop him because his goal was the most important thing to him. I don't think we'll ever get a villain as good as Thanos again.
The only thing they could have done better is set up his connection and feelings toward gamora and his henchmen in prior films. These parts felt rushed
Yeah he snaps and you either die or get stuck for good unless you and other survivors hop in the other half of the cars to move them out of the way lol
Yeah, Traffic has a tendency to get worse when half the people on the road mysteriously disappear from their cars, and half of the people who tow the now abandoned cars are also gone.
Yea and then you are stuck for good since, you know, the cars can't drive by themselves...unless they "are part of the people" like evil Steve Rogers man's arm
Our planet is grossly overpopulated, and the resource/ environmental problems we face will not be solved nearly in time to prevent global catastrophe/ suffering/ mass species extinction. A Snap would absolutely solve those problems.
I love being able to fully understand Thanos, finding him awesome, and still dreading everything he does. My appreciation of his motivation does not make his success less horrific. If anything, it’s even more upsetting simply because I know how it was bound to happen from the start. I hate thanos’ actions, but I like him as a character
People always critics Thanos as having a dumb plan.But that’s EXACTLY the point.His motivation and determination to bring balance to the universe blinds him and leads him to a hole filled plan.
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I also love how he doesn't want to kill anybody that stands in his way except for Tony Stark and Loki for failing him. He never throughout the entire movie killed someone he didn't need to kill. That's, why endgame is going to be so interesting. He doesnt want to fight, he already accomplished his goal and has no further plans. He doesnt target the Avengers/Guardians they just happen to cross his path.
A lovely breakdown of, definitely, one of the best written villains in recent memory. A perfect demonstration that a comic book villain doesn't need to be silly.
Earth's population doubled between 1950 and 1987 (2.5 billion to 5 billion in 37 years). That was the fastest doubling the human population has experienced, but regardless, a doubling from 3.85 billion back to the current 7.7 billion should happen in less than 50 years. There are a lot of sentient intelligent species in the MCU, some which would reproduce faster than humans and some slower, but needless to say, halving the population would only temporarily solve resource issues. Merely alleviate the problem by decades for some worlds, like Earth, and perhaps centuries at most, for some others. So Thanos' plan doesn't really make sense.. or rather, it wouldn't work.
Never really thought about it, just took it for granted. But I mean he never kills if he doesnt have, too, has respect for people who are brave and the most stunning thing which I never picked up on was that he actually said "Sorry" to Gamora. That fact really hit me
What bugs me is the misapprehension that killing half a population will stop the population problem. It simply delays it ...for a SHORT while. If he tinkered with the fertility rate so growth is 0% he would have achieved his goal. And those who say “just double the resources” have the same misunderstanding of population ecology... just saying.
It’s never talked about. But I think he would see himself as a Shepard. Lead everyone afterwards. Proof he talks about teaching a grateful universe after he’s destroyed the last one.
Loki - *Wanted to prove himself for the greater good* Red Skull and Alexander Pierce: *Aims to bring order and unity* Ultron: *Promotes Peace and Superiority* Thanos: *Seeks balance and sustenance*
Hela,Ronan,Malekith,Dormammu - *Seeks absolute power/control* Ego - *Seeks Fulfillment of his Life* Kaecillus - *Was fooled but tried to make the world a better place*
Its so sad to see what happened to Thanos in Endgame. Not only to him the character in the sense of pain or destruction but also how much less interesting Endgame was compared to Infinity War
I think that's because Infinity war is seen from his perspective, therefore it's easier to see his point of view. Whereas endgame was more from the heroes point of view so you see him for the monster he really is.
Evening Star yeah. It shows us the real thanos, that even though his intensions seem good in infinity war, as soon as his “mercy” fails he resorts to complete destruction. I think it adds to his character, showing how far he’d really go, while also establishing that he is not fit to be a god because he doesn’t care about the universe, more about his own image of the universe. He actually lacks empathy, he can’t understand why no one else will feel grateful. I don’t think he ruined endgame or that his character really changed drastically off screen.
Evening Star Well said, that’s not a bad thing either. In fact it makes perfect sense, in infinity war, Thanos won completely, therefore it was seen from his POV, but in Endgame, The Avengers win so it makes more sense to show their POV.
You should have seen what it was like in the theaters while Infinity War was playing. At the end one could hear a pin drop in between the soft sobs in the dark. Nobody spoke. The mood was subdued and dark. Truly a one of a kind cinematic experience. Shoes that Marvel and the Russo brothers had the magic formula. I doubt anything like Infinity War will happen in movies for a longtime.
My favorite part of Thanos's character development is one I've never seen mentioned. It's just the subtle moment that he turns young Gamora's head away as her people are being massacred. Every time I see it it almost brings tears to my eyes to think that he's committing this horrible act yet at the same time trying to protect this little girl. It perfectly sets up and adds a lot more weight to Gamora's sacrifice scene.
Lmfao. Also to people defending me, really appreciate the love and you’re the real ones but it’s just a voicecrack. And I like the memes of it in the comment section.
I would love to see a solo movie on Thanos as some sort of prequel to where he became the “mad titan” or somehow bringing him back but in another parallel universe where he’s the “anti-hero” or him battling some greater evils out in the cosmos. I remember there being a comic issue of him traveling to the outer part of the universe where even death doesn’t exist.
Thank you, my child, for your praise.
...what did it cost?
Jack Stoutamore 1/14,000,605 scenarios
Thanos
*weeps in Korean*
Thanos are you related to Thanod?
Fun fact: the Greek god of death is Thanatos, which I thought was funny. You may be thinking "wait the Greek god of death is Hades." No. He's god OF the dead. Thanatos kills people, Hades does the paperwork
It was his smile at the end that sold me. That wasn't a victorial smile, or a smile of success. It was a smile of relief
It was almost a forced smile. Thanos, despite completing his goal, still lost. He lost the only thing he ever loved.
@@nated8678 And he had to swallow his losses because he believed it was his destiny--because he sees himself as a grandiose hero on a journey who honestly thinks he's doing the right thing. Brilliant villain.
Actually made me feel kinda bad for him with what happened during the first half hour of Endgame...
_Whoops_ - that was almost a spoiler, wasn't it..?
@@PeteTheGrouch lol I wouldn't worry about it, everyone who cares about spoilers should have seen it by now.
@@nated8678 Except he doesn't really love her. He loves Death, the entity. He's a lovesick, mad Titan. He was rewritten to the worse.
One thing I love about thanos is that he’s very calm and soft-spoken, it makes him even scarier
Agree
Yeah. He doesn't need to scream to scare the audience.
Yeah when he knows he is going to die he's calm
I mean he's just not intimidated by anything and only gets annoyed most of the time. His mind is constantly thinking about his next move so he can finally get to that farm in peace, everything that's gets in his way is meaningless to him, especially with the gauntlet.
It made him feel like he genuinely believed that he was fighting for a good cause no matter the means.
I knew Thanos was perfect when
1. He DOES NOT lie, as bad his plan is, he knows it’s evil, but undertakes the task in a “noble” way in his own eyes. He is honest about it to himself and others.
2. He has NO CONTEMPT for the “avengers” specifically. He even lets some of them live, and some he even shows respect towards. He has no personal quarrel with them, they are simply an obstacle.
As soon as he sees his task before him as greater than himself, he transcends the avengers and their little lives and motives. He is bigger than they are, more purpose-driven. His mission even transcends his OWN life.
Dwarves: am I a joke to you?
*Contempt, not content. I definitely didn't look at that for 30 seconds trying to read it lol
A normal villain would’ve killed Ironman
When give the time stone.
But honest ol Thanos did the right thing
Even if it meant his death.
Another good reason Thano's master plan blinds his "good" judgement, the same heroes he spared were the same heroes that led his demise.
This is a good comment but what do you mean he has no content for The Avengers that doesn't make any sense I think you mean contempt
perfectly written, as all villains should be
lol
Well said
Perfectly referenced, as all comments should be
yes.
Ill Omens lol
The surprised look on Thanos's face after he snaps his fingers make me wonder if he included himself as a possibility in the random killing and he happened to survive. Or maybe he was just shocked that he finally managed to accomplish his goal. Either way it's an interesting scene.
The surprise he had after the snap and the vision of a young Gamora within the Soul Stone world, seem to suggest that not only was he a potential target, but that he was chosen and something about the gauntlet saved him.
In the comics, when Thanos loses the gauntlet, Nebula picks it up and starts using it, despite being a near mindless zombie at the time. She reverses everything that had happened - including the snap - and proceeds to be assaulted by the remaining heroes and the combined might of the Celestials.
However, Thanos notes that while she may have the gauntlet, she lacks the will to use it to its full potential, and that she is reacting mostly out of instinct. Because some of the gems are even sentient, he suggests that the infinity gauntlet itself was protecting her from attacks that would have otherwise easily defeated her.
In the comic line "Illuminati" the group of the same name assemble the infinity gauntlet. Reed Richards is wearing the gauntlet at its completion, and everyone is holding their breath for what he might do, not having thought of the consequences of fully assembling the gauntlet in such a situation. For a moment, there is just strained confusion on Reed Richard's face before he finally says that he can't do it. He cannot will the gauntlet and the infinity gems to simply cease to be. The assembled gauntlet simply wont let it happen.
The stones in the MCU are definitely less powerful than the gems in the comics, and the gauntlet itself seemed nearly destroyed by the act of unleashing its full wish-fulfilling power. Even so, if he really wanted to be preserved, he simply could have made it so.
However, after having just watched a video about good villains needing good motivations, the motivation to preserve himself is quite lacking. Does he have a massive ego? Yes, but it was definitely taken down a notch after murdering the one person he loved the most in the universe. Does he think he is a god? Possibly but I doubt it. A god doesn't need an all powerful tool to do what he wants, and that smile at the beginning of the film to Loki's taunt wasn't one of "I will be a god, you can count on it" but more of a "you really have no idea what I really want, do you" sort of look. He doesn't clarify or argue, but then again, he rarely does for anyone he is outright going to kill. He doesn't argue with Loki, he just crushes his neck. He doesn't try to convince Gamora that he truly loves her, he simply bites back the pain and does the sacrifice. Interestingly, he even gives a soft and even reassuring speech to Tony Stark, who somehow received a non-lethal stab through the gut. Similarly for Wanda Maximoff when he consoles her for her sacrifice of Vision and yet despite clearly being the biggest threat of the entire team, he only swats her away AFTER she attacks him first.
I would argue, to get back to the main point, that Thanos would have been very unlikely to have spared himself from the snap, mainly because the character we are shown throughout the movie isn't the type to do that. Indeed, he is more likely to do the reverse, seeing that preventing his own demise would fly in the face of his goal (that it is random, impartial, merciful, which to someone who has suffered as much, he would consider it mercy to be wiped away). The belief that he is utterly right in his goal, that level of ego, would prevent him from excluding himself. However, the icing on the cake is such, that as high as his ego is, it is not so high, that he doesn't have remorse or doubt, both shown brilliantly after the snap, when he shows genuine surprise at surviving, and genuine remorse at all of the sacrifices he had to make in order to get to that point.
_"I literally cannot believe that worked!"_
Great point! This is exactly what I thought. Thanos didn't look valiant and successful, he looked very much confused and disoriented. Thor's reaction actually cemented that scene for me. In that moment, Thor had NO idea what that snap did but it made him instantly chastise Thanos and halt his attack. In those fleeting seconds, time was suspended and reality itself was warped. Thanos gave no response and simple left... Brilliant scene. Ponder away fanboys. Lol
I guess that he just realized the stupidity of his whole mission cuz in a few centuries the population will be the same it was before the snap! Actually it's a simple evolutionary fact that whenever there are more resources the population grows faster, so I guess in the case of humans, we'll be the same number in max 200 years!
It's confirmed that he does include himself in the snap
Infinity War: Villians Story
Endgame: Heroes Story
They were both amazing
God damn that’s the purest description of these movies
Matt Scallon Perfectly balanced.
Mr. Yeet As all things should be.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
A proper villain is one where he is a hero when you look at the world from his perspective 🔥🔥🔥
King Penuel much love fam
@@TheLoneChemist It's all love.
King Penuel That was really well-put! Bravo!👏
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Any villain is the hero when you look at the world from his perspective as long as the villain is deluded enough. Thanos is a crazy dude who was driven mad by his entire planet "Lord of the Fly"-ing themselves off the face of the universe. His plan doesn't make sense to anyone with their sanity still intact, but it does to him. At least, that's the only explanation I could find for his plan making no sense if you think about it for more than a minute.
Back in 2008, Thanos was only known inside the geek circles.
Now he's among the greatest and most iconic villains of all time, among Darth Vader, and Heath Ledger's Joker.
Thank you Russo brothers.
Agreed.
He really was inevitable.
@@darthsauron8052 don't forget the writers Markus and McFeely.
Thanos is comparable to Joker when it comes to being a great villain. One is a psychological maniac whose goals you'll always wonder what, and one is a survivor and does what he thinks is right to save others.
Can we all just appreciate the fact that a studio, for the first time I know of, hyped a major film up for years, building up to it for a very long time, and actually didn’t mess anything up and made an almost flawless film?
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Xplosives I know. The movie so easily could have gone wrong with so many characters and plot lines. But it didn’t 🔥🔥🔥.
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I think he was talking about infinity war
Ikr?! Infinty War was something else I don't know how Endgame will top it.
@@Grimloxz Test screenings of end game have gone really well apparently
@@Grimloxz Exactly but according to the directors the test screenings were so good no one got up to use the bathroom despite the movie clocking in at 3hrs so Endgame might top Infinty War and if it does we might just have the best comicbook movie since TDK, maybe even better.
If they made a movie focused on Thanos when he first started on his path, I'd watch it. Would be interesting to see Thanos grow into the Mad Titan we all know.
Josh Blount yeah, i feel like the way he grew up and how the people around him treated him/their planet was why he is the way he is. It’s the same with the new joker, Gotham has destroyed him and themselves and he wants to bring a needed change regardless of if it’s evil or not
Knew *
well, there is an Eternals movie coming out soon, of which Thanos is a member species
They might do that in the eternals
He has his own book
I like how he said he did what he said he’d do. He didn’t trust himself to keep the stones out of pure temptation so he destroys them. Then he goes off to live an honest farm life in a cabin.
the story of Cincinataus comes to mind here, a man who did what he had to do, (Lead rome as an elected autocrat in a war) and once it was done, he walked away and went back to his farm. it was expected of him back then, but as we know now, that is a rare thing.
Didn’t he realize that eventually the population would continue to procriate and comeback to the way it was before the snap? He destroyed the stones so how would he or someone solve the problem then?
He truly is a hero... from his point of view, which I think everyone would agree is the best type of villain.
Yea he was living a peaceful farm life....before the avengers rolled up to his crib and ended him. I mean am I the only one who thought that was messed up?? Even for the avengers!!
@@cucabeludo3596
Bruh you cannot be so sure about that.
What if in a planet only males were left over after the snap.
And even if it does have a chance to come back then, how long would that even take.
In my opinion I like Infinity War more as a film.
I like Endgame more in an emotional standpoint. If that makes sense.
Avengers Endgame was a better film than Avenger's Infinity War. A lot less ridiculously absurd writing in its plot, and a closure story for the main Avenger's characters.
@@LordMalice6d9 infinity war is better than endgame in just about every way. Unless you think time travel, nebula network syncing and all the other randomness in the movie counts as good writing.
LordMalice6d9 endgame sucked
Endgame was a little bit to fan servicy for me.
Infinity War: Better Story
Endgame: Better movie
They had to make Thanos great...And they did. So, all the prior marvel movies they have tried focusing on the heroes and developing the heroes...Some movies did better than others, but with infinity war they had SO MANY main characters it was the wise choice to focus on the villain...And they did it right.
Charles Gossett totally agree! Thanos was perfect. Thanks for watching, my dude! Sub if you liked the video please!
Well yeah, that makes sense. But there's no reason that villains couldn't be as deep or interesting as Thanos. Iron Man 2's villain played by Mickey Rourke could've been more, in fact the actor was disappointed that his character was so one dimensional. Had he have been better written, he could've provided more character development for Tony Stark as a result.
Very good point. Thanos was the one thread that actually connected every single one of these characters. He's the one character that almost ever hero meets.
Flipsy
@@Khalirei Well, thanks to dinner buying fox, we now have a whole lot of new villains that they can use and do right. I am very exited for when they introduce one of the best and hilarious villains into the MCU and finally do him justice on the big screen. Doctor Doom.
who knew Thanos has bars 9:03, "scrounging for scraps, your planet was on the brink of collapse"
Bro that hella 🔥🔥🔥
BARS!!!
"Full bellies and clear skies, it's a paradise"
Lmfaoooo
What are bars
"Understandable beings that are slaves to their imperfections." I really like this quote! That's what humans are!
ryadh456 much love fam, thanks for the compliment.
@@TheLoneChemistWhat is your opinion on Dr. Emma Russell from Godzilla: King of the Monsters, whose plan was similar to Thanos' plan in Infinity War. Most people criticized her for the same reasons you say that Thanos is perfectly written.
Thanos in Infinity War: *Just wants the stones. Is more or less initially friendly to the Avengers until they attack him.*
Thanos in Endgame: "I'm about to end this whole universe's career."
Change of personality n motivation
@@daemonace5910 Yeah, he was exposed to the fact that his life's work was about to be completely nullified by the Avengers, who he did not even know. With Nebula's recording he knew exactly how much he sacrificed for it and how persisten the avengers were in getting in his way. He was pissed, they made it personal.
He still was altruistic. He wanted to destroy the universe to build a utopia in the ashes after he realized that snapping half of life out of existence would fail. He believed that the universe was beyond repair in Endgame.
@@aster1sk294 That's the sad part. Imagine if they kept Thanos the main character of Endgame indirectly, with the last fight scene not ending with silent Thanos, but a thanos that realized he was in the wrong.
Daemon Ace He's the same guy. His motivation is the only thing that changed. He was just going to go the extra yard and just rewrite everything in his perfect view. No one remembers the snap, the universe is balanced, and no one can stop him.
Thanos in Infinity War: *Perfectly written villain*
Thanos in Endgame:
Woah buddy, this could have been a spoiler for Endgame. You better be more careful when browsing through the comments
I want to click read more so bad but I haven't seen endgame
@@nicholashopper5862 HAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT PLEASE CLICK IT LIKE ITS NOT A SPOILER YOURE GOING TO CRACK UP SO HARD
Dead
You are my hero
Nicholas Hopper iron man and black widow die
Thano's face when he says:
"I'm the only one who knows that..."
He had PTSD of Titan's destruction
Tamás Pákey i really love that detail
@@solitary2 I love that too .
What I don't get is that Thanos talks about calculus yet he doesn't get that halving the population ONCE is only a temporary measure as he states himself - life will exponentially grow again to reach the same problem later. I mean WTF... you can't just use the snap once. You need to basically do it ad infinitum if you believe his "solution".
@@Shivian124 exactly. Halving a population is a temporary solution at best.
Thanos has a simple goal: "If I don't kill 50%, 100% will face extinction."
But he'll recreate the world to be an utopia...that's his true simple goal, he just changed the means to do it because his first attempt failed
GEICO: saves 15%
Thanos: saves 50%
@@vitorguerreiro3902 its actually not dumb. Just think about will you
Skum Don But the thing is, it’s actually stupid as fuck
Nationalsozialist Hans killing half so the other half can live better
The score in that last scene on his home planet is amazingly emotional.
When he was telling a story to dr. Strange?
That's not his home planet. His home planet was where they fought.
he's inside the soul stone I think
Thanos made the planet himself using the stones. The Russos have officially said it's called "Titan II" based off of how Thanos's home planet looked before it got destroyed.
@@ProlificPops Why didn't he make more planets instead of killing half the universe and why was he living by himself on the planet he created? There must have been resources and space for at least a few more people on that planet.
A little late to the discussion, but another thing that makes Thanos stand out to me is that his sacrificial conviction is exactly what the heroes lack. He is willing to, and does, make sacrifices for his goals, while the heroes repeatedly pull their punches at the most critical moment, leading to their defeat. Although he's deeply flawed and definitely worthy of hate, he has an attribute that the heroes don't that could be seen as noble, depending on where you're standing.
And what really drives it home is that the conclusion of the film doesn't give us any reassurances. Did the heroes earn their failure? Is their unwillingness to make sacrifices a noble ideal, or selfishly naive? Is it even that simple?
AM Journal agreed. Insightful take! Thanks for watching, my dude.
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Disagree , the heroic archetype is strongly based on *literal , tangible* SELF-sacrifice , heroism much like love has its roots on putting the others before one-self but in a much broader way , Thanos is willing to sacrifice others for his goals , but his version of sacrifice is a more "cultural" version if you will , since he is sacrificing individuals that are very important to him , and in most human societies , that does count as part of one's own individualism.
Thanos wouldn't sacrifice himself for the cause because ultimately , he values himself as much as his mission , or perhaps higher , he even states that he is the only one capable and willing.
The nobility is in him sticking to the plan with or without hesitation , and not being sadistic , the nobility doesn't actually come from being willing to sacrifice others for his own cause.
If anything the classic nobility that we've been completly de-sensitized from of the heros is much stronger and purer , which is why they're heros and Thanos is the villain.
@@juanme555 Yeah, definitely, you make a good point!
I still think that the main downfall that the heroes fall prey to is their refusal to let their friends make voluntary sacrifices that may have been their only way of beating Thanos (though that's debatable, I suppose). It's a weird thing to think about, because, arguably, refusing to let one's friends die could be noble, but then, it could be selfish, if it costs the lives of others (which it does). Is it better to save the people you care about, or let them make the choice to give their life for the good of others? Which is more noble?
We'll have to see how it shakes out in Endgame. It's just a shocking thing to see presented in a movie, none of the heroes being able to do what's necessary to beat the villain even when they have the chance and losing outright because of it. (Thor's failure to kill Thanos in time for instance, and I think there are several other similar moments.)
"We don't trade lives, Captain".
Thanos stole the show without a doubt he was so well done and he sucks you in, the Avengers seem like just a supporting cast.
TonyDracon nein
Well this movie was thanos’s. Not the avengers. It is evident in the movie
One more thing you should have addded is his integrity and honesty. He never lies. His commitment for truth makes his character more strong and respectable.
I love his line where Dr. strange says “congratulations your a prophet” and Thanos immediately responds saying “I’m a survivor”
Strange became a priest now huh
XXXTentacles That line gets looked over so much that was a great line. You are so right!!
Comic Thanos: A thirsty virgin
Movie Thanos: Basically a hippie
*Eco-terrorist
Emil Andreasson Thanos isn’t a virgin. I think the “What Thanos Did On His Free Time” established that
A neomalthusian hippie, but a hippie still..!
@@youknowwhoiam2771 in the comics, thanos was obsessed with "death". Death is a hot girl.
STOP STOP Yeah, I heard that from someone else (didn’t read the comics myself), but that sounds infinitely more interesting than “balance” Thanos. Killing one half of a population doesn’t fix overpopulation, it just restarts the process, until the population numbers correct themselves.
Contrarily, death obsessed Thanos would have been interesting and could be explored in many different ways (he could be a cynic and kill everyone to end their miserable lives, he could be a sadist/sociopath and so it for the joy of killing, it could be a cult things like the Faceless Men in Game of Thrones, maybe he’s vengeful because everyone in his planet was killed and wants to avenge them by killing everyone, etc).
The cinema I saw Infinity War with all walked out in complete silence. Not a word. It was a really somber ending and we all just....left. Nobody felt like cracking a joke or talking about their favourite scene. Such a good movie, a superb villain (kudos Josh Brolin) and a great ending!
@ASDF jkl; I wish I was there to see you do it 😂😂😂
@@HowIsAsh Actually, that's not completely true. There's a video on UA-cam that goes through how, at least on Earth, we wouldn't grow back to where we were at due to life and economic reasons etc.
@ASDF jkl; Clapping in the cinema? What?
After that happened everyone was like "WHAT THE FUCK!?"
@pyropulse People mindset is different now. They would be too focused in rebuilding to have children, just like they are too focused in their careers to have children now
I agree. Thanos is brilliant. When watching the films for the first time I felt that there really was no way to beat him. He was so driven and strong. Actually felt powerful, unlike most villains
10:32 Loki was the perfect one to say this because Loki also wanted to be a god and learned from his ways.
Character development
Dude I really felt bad for him... he just turned his life to good and then gets killed
So true.
Loki is a god tho
Loki is a God. That's why he said that to Thanos, he knows what it is to be worshipped.
Alexander Pierce was a good villain imo. His motive was understandable and Robert Redford's acting was incredible.
STONEMATT agreed that Redfords performance was very good. I just didn’t find his motives that compelling. But, like the rest of the video, just my personal preference. Thanks so much for watching!!
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STONEMATT you’re a king.
The reason he's so popular is he actually feels human, even though he's not. He's not evil for the sake of being evil. He goes by a philosophy and goes by his beliefs. He has compassion, even for those he defeats. He's never seen gloating or having an ego, he only fights if there's a need to. And once he accomplishes his goals he rests and finds peace, nothing more. He doesn't see himself as evil, he doesn't want to destroy life. He wants it to flourish and thrive, and he believes his methods are necessary for that to happen. There's tons more that can be said about the character but I'll end it here. He's the best on screen villian I've seen in any superhero movie to date.
agreed!! thanks so much for watching
Hitler didnt view himself as evil either. Ironically that's kinda what made him extra evil.
"You're wrong and you think you're right, that makes you dangerous" ~ Spiderman
I'm sorry but you don't know that he's not doing it for the sake of being evil, people can lie to themselves about why they do things.
@@some1350 if he is lying to himself then he's being honest because he's not privy to the truth of his own intentions.
Heath Ledger's Joker was a well written villian and probably one of the best to date
In the end of first endgame , when thanos sat and just looked at the sunset after the half world ended was really powerful moment , that’s why he was a great villian , he had great personality - dark and twisted but great
The ending of Infinity War is so darkly beautiful that I honestly wish that was wrap for the MCU. The hero sits watching a sunrise on grateful galaxy, having lost a lot, but gained peace.
James Trvck I feel exactly the same way. I realized a while ago that I don’t think endgame will impress me more than infinity war, even tho I will still see endgame, IW absolutely blew all of my expectations out of the water. Endgame will probably not do that since we all know this is supposed to be the movie that will bring the dead ones back
Greatful universe
Crystal Dee I’m still excited for Endgame but it was just such a great ending. Glad I’m not the only one who thought so
Zam weazle that’s what he says he would do after he accomplished his goal; he’d watch a sunrise on a grateful universe. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true, but from the hero of the stories view it is.
James Trvck
Your right, I am seriously considering not watching the last avengers movie.
If you think about it, Zemo succeeded in what he desired. He was a good villain too.
and it's no coincidence that the russo brothers also directed that movie as well
I feel like Zemo was a better villain than Thanos. His character was easier to relate to, he used no super powers to manipulate everyone, and basically succeeded in breaking apart the Avengers. The events of Age of Ultron killed his family which gives the viewer a total understanding of why he would want to do what he does. I love Infinity War, but the moment Tony Stark sees his parents killed by Bucky in Civil War makes it the best Marvel film so far.
Christopher Pauley Thanos is automatically better because for someone as powerful as he was, his goal still required sacrifice... a major one at that. Zemo was already an empty vessel with nothing to lose.
@@BillykOTW
The quality of the moments of "sacrifice" feel almost fake. "This day takes a heavy toll" the tears for Gomora. Those moments feel like something someone just put in because they knew that had to. Moments like when he just slaughtered the collector without hesitation or snapped lokis neck - that's Thanos' character. Sorry don't agree...
@@christopherpauley8174 That the beauty of art. We all don't have the same opinions 😁
*The hardest choices require the strongest wills.*
“I’m the only one who knows that. At least I am the only one with the will to act on it.” I know there is more to thanos than just that line but I still think that line sums him up.
You're not the only one cursed with knowledge, Mr. Chemist.
Why are you everywhere on yt?
@Jonnathan Crane here in Italy they changed it in ineluctable and it really fits him we aren't even mad because during it's projection in theaters the search for this strange word spiked all around the nation a we started using and appreciating this word lol
@@iskandar7354 I've never heard of this word, either. I like it lol it does suit him, like you said.
His only curse is you.
@@dragonempress8367 I know right
I think they did an amazing job with The Vulture from Homecoming. Just a dad who got fucked around too much so decides to do what he has to.
Agreed, he was a very realistic villain, that took responsibility for his actions instead of trying to justify his cause
Because the video was about how certain villains were written
That was the real good Villain
The hero is what I didn't find realistic in that story.
Yeah, you have a good point.
I'll add that Thanos would not want to double the resources because it defeats the purpose. He believes the universe is imbalanced because its inhabitants have a natural culture of excess that makes them mismanage their available resources. Doubling them would make this trend even worse and would lead to even further imbalance down the line. Therefore the only practical solution is the extreme one of wiping out half of life. As far as Thanos is concerned, that is the only approach that has actually worked, and therefore that is his destiny to carry it out on a universal scale.
Exactly!!
Doubling resources makes no sense at all?
How does that even work
He could have made a second universe to send half the population to, he could have changed the minds of the entire universe to his philosophy, or he could have doubled the size of planets. He's omnipotent, he could've done anything.
Aleandro Mirabal True, and the glove was slightly damaged after the snap, so I hope it's not too powerful.
And given that he probably saw the extinction of his own people - The Titans - due to their inability to resolve their own recourse crisis which lead to their species inevitable collapse - The Titans were basically Marvel's equivalent to the New Gods of the DC Universe - probably cemented this as the only viable option.
Thanos in the comics was a simp
Joshua Ellerson truer words have never been spoken. thanks for watching fam. stay safe and healthy.
That's why it was the writers' responsibility to make this version an absolute chad
He wanted to clap Helas cheeks
@@Chuked meh close enough
@@childishbambino2024 he wanted to clap DEATHS HERSELF cheeks
the hulk becomes shrek in endgame
so true
#spoilersthatdontspoiltoomuch
@Will Daniels we have a fucking idiot
dont spoil shrek 5 fucking trashbag
*ALL STAR PLAYS*
That's why I liked Infinity War more than Endgame.
I'm not the only one!
@ThatGuyHudson endgame had so many plot holes and was all over the place. Still great though. Infinity War > Endgame
i liked infinity war much more than end game because i didn't know what would happen. thanos could win or lose. in end game i knew that thanos would lose and i don't feel as connected the the heroes as i do with thanos. i sort of started to dislike the avengers at the start of end game when everyone just ganged up on him when he was unarmed and did not show any signs to attack. thanos is one of the few villains i really like, along with handsome jack and lelouch
I loved endgame but I think infinity war had a better motivation
I liked infinity war more too, but I still find it hard to compare them since they have such different goals. Infinity war was basically the setup to the culmination, so it gives room for a lot more anticipation since it's not the end yet. Endgame was the culmination so they had a lot more to tackle in order to finally wrap the entire 11 years up which is probably why it felt so conveluded compared to IW.
Thanos: The universe is finite, I must eliminate half of the population if it is to survive. *SNAP*
(Sixty years later - Population doubles back to original levels)
Thanos: Do you think this is a ***** game?!
*Thanos: Am I a joke to you ?
Do you think this is a sex game?!
He wiped out half the universe because of a Malthusian proposition which could be overcome with a little creativity and something as strong as the infinity stones (Instead of wiping out half the universe, why not just make some more planets?). Killing half the universe seems like taking the easy way out. Oh yeah, and after wiping out half the universe, he goes and lives on a planet by himself. Guess Thanos doesn't practice what he preaches.
@@slowmotion40 Thanos was so obviously wrong. I find his motivation to be pretty dumb, but yeah... The movie was fine.
@Slow Motion
Wiping out half the population or doubling the amount of resources have the same effect. Eventually populations will rise and you'll be in the same situation.However, unlike creating new planets, repeatedly killing half the population can be done indefinitely. You cannot indefinitely create new planets, eventually some areas will become too clustered, and any life in those areas will suffer the problems of what creating new planets was supposed to solve.
The reason Thanos doesn’t double resources is because your just increasing the problem.
More resources = more mouths.
More mouths = more mouths to feed.
You just created a bigger problem and next time Thanos won’t be around to stop it.
@@danker9161 remember we are at a time where we’re working on being better for the planet and we know what we should do and we know we’re over overpopulated if you wipe out half of humans it’ll make the job easier
That doesn't make any sense. Increasing the resources *INCREASES* the standards of living, not the other way around. More resources equals less time and effort needed to obtain said resources, thus more time spent on the quality of life. Also, according to Endgame, the universe originally had 10 trillion souls before the snap. Our solar system can support over 10 *QUADRILLION* people and their standards of living would be *LEAGUES* better than the richest people on Earth. Assuming that a habitable Earth-like planet exists around every star in the galaxy and you spread those 10 quadrillion people across those worlds, they would populate the entire galaxy several times over. There's no shortage of resources anytime soon. Or he could just change reality so that resources work infinitely or make everyone immortal, but no character brings that up in the movie because the story would fall apart instantaneously. Thanos has all this power but he ends up underutilizing said powers in the worst way possible.
@@danker9161 If you like science, futurism, and realistic portrayals of sci-fi tropes, I highly recommend the UA-cam channel Isaac Arthur. That's where I got most of my knowledge from. He criticizes Thanos' plan in one of his videos, the Dyson Dilemma version 2 video, if I remember it correctly.
@@kellenwong1321 yeah but he can’t double resources since you can’t make something out of nothing that’s the limit of the stones
@@gstxd Oh, so you are telling me that there's a limit despite the fact that one of those stones can manipulate reality itself? Yeah, I'm going to call BS on that one.
Duolingo: did you do it?
Me: si
Duolingo: what did it cost
Me: *ma familia*
mi* you just lost your father
*HECTOR SALAMANCA INTENSIFIES*
Thanks for ripping this straight from a meme you unfunny, unoriginal loser.
U should’ve chosen a less well known meme
*mi familia
instead of ma
Instead of screaming for vengeance, Thanos's last moment was just looking at Tony with a face full of sorrow like he think he had failed the universe. The MCU Thanos IS the best version of Thanos since the comic books are often portrayed him as an arrogant tyrant.
his death was beautiful
@@beeclu yeah he just sit down and rest
He wiped out half the universe because of a Malthusian proposition which could be overcome with a little creativity and something as strong as the infinity stones (Instead of wiping out half the universe, why not just make some more planets?). Killing half the universe seems like taking the easy way out. Oh yeah, and after wiping out half the universe, he goes and lives on a planet by himself. Guess Thanos doesn't practice what he preaches.
@@leowtyx There is plenty of particulate matter in the universe that hasn't coalesced into anything of use, bring it together and make a bunch of planets. First use the time stone to speed up the expansion of the universe and make a little room if needed. Seriously though he could have let a few people live on that planet with him.
@@leowtyx Time Stone should take care of that.
"full bellies, clear skies."
-Thanos
Joshua B it’s a paradise
Joshua B Woah nelly! Thanos is the light
believe in the church of Thanos
@BLAIR M Schirmer ya but dude if he keeps on feeding the population it will grow in a faster rate and there will be no space for anyone to live on
HE has so many of these one liners, such a well written, acted, and edited character.
This just popped up in my recommendations and I'm not dissapointed. You just earned yourself a sub.
much love fam. thanks for watching and check out my other essays
@@TheLoneChemist sure will, just watched your star wars defined video, your videos are awesome :)
Actually, for infinity war, the avengers become the expendable villain while Thanos himself is the protagonist
care to explain why?
todd chavez beacuse most of the heroes were fucked up or killed like fodder characters
Thanos was *_very_* technically the protagonist in that story. It focuses on him as a character rather than the Avengers, which Endgame does.
@@nobutasu3285 basic calculus idiot
He was the protagonist sure, but he’s still a villainous character.
I actually really liked Ronan and thought he’d be a very memorable villain if he had gotten a little more on screen development. He mentions how the Xandarians had waged war against his people and had slaughtered several generations of his family. I would’ve liked to see his upbringing, growing up surrounded by constant war, shaping him into the being of pure hatred we see on screen.
Too bad he got beat by a dancing guy
Reminds me a bit of General Grievous
The smile at the end was very well done, it wasn't smug like most villains but almost like an old man finally retiring after decades of working hard to achieve his end goal. very good video i'm glad someone put into words how well this performance was.
Beautifully said. I already thought Thanos was the best villain, but my friend didn't agree. This video was enjoyable to watch because you explained perfectly why I love this character. You also mentioned something that I hadn't realized before: the peace at the end of the movie. The ending is very chilling, but you're right. There is a peacefulness to it because we know our protagonist won.
Thanos is my favorite villain of all time
Mine too!
Hannibal is still my number 1
I prefer the Joker, but Thanos is a close second
So you haven't seen Watchmen?
SAME, Tho Vader is comparable
Thanos 2020. Unemployment, housing costs, low wages, pollution... snap!
Kids with full bellies
Ronald McDouchebag wtf lol
@Ronald McDouchebag ...Did you just not watch Endgame or what? Because, that was literally 2014 Thanos' plan. To destroy the Universe, and to become the god of a new one.
@@preds43 Bruh, why you even tryna argue. The guy's name says it all
Loki: 420 4 2020.
Duolingo: Did you do it?
Me: Yes.
Duolingo: What did it take?
Me: *todo*
Underrated
*Did you learn Spanish?*
_Si._
*What did it cost?*
_Mi familia._
Ay coño, los gringos son unos locos 😂😂😂
👏👏👏👍
*Tudo
Kill Monger : I'm the best villian
Thanos: hold my infinity gauntlet
Neither had a plan that made any sense if you thought about it for more than 2 seconds, but they were both played by impressive, charismatic actors who brought their A-game. They were cinematically good villains, but not narratively.
@@zusfrankenstein8561 I disagree.
Joker didn't make any real sense.
But come on, Thanos has a plan.
The resources are finite.
@@chumlankithan1545 He could have just made more resources.
@@zusfrankenstein8561 He gives an explanation for that as well. If he goes down the road of making more resources then greed will take over.
Kill monger wasn't even a good villian. Kind of whiney actually
the best villian is the one where the viewer can think it can happen in his own life.
Word! I agree to a certain extent, but I think that just comes down to the villain having relatable motives. Many villains are intentionally over the top, so it makes it difficult for the viewer to imagine their actions applied to their own life. If the villain is relatable, then no matter what the actions are, they can be somewhat sympathetic and therefore effective. Hope you liked the video, my dude!
Hey there's a monument in the middle of America that states that one of the main goals of humanity is to seek balance with nature and reduce the population of the world to 500m.... seems like Thanos is rather soft on population control compared to that.
@@Peremptor What monument is that?
@@Lord_Muggs Georgia Guidestones
Guys, Endgame was just one of the 14,000,605 possibilities.
which means dr strange watched endgame before all of us
@Servine dr strange is a true master for not spoiling endgame for an entire year. Props to him
@@brandondinh9225 I mean Strange was dead for 5 years so even if he wanted to spoil it he couldn't
I wanna see a blooper reel of all those possibilities, like if the rat had missed the button haha.
TheDoctor Fez i want marvel to make the 14million timelines into a movie where thanos wins
Both of his deaths in Endgame made me genuinely bad for him.
1st one: He has assumed at this point the universe is happy, grateful for what he’s done. He lives as a humble man farming and knows he will be blinded with power so he doesn’t become a tyrannical god. He is then killed cold blood for doing nothing but believe what he did right. He sacrificed everything, his army in Wakanda, his daughter, his main crew.It’s like working your entire life for something, something heroic, something that will save the planet. Soon to realise the people you saved aren’t grateful and kill you in cold blood.
2nd one: He has at this point knows his destiny. He knows what he’s going to do is right and nothing to stop him. He then watches his entire army vanish before him. Everything he worked for, everyone he worked with, vanish in his eyes. At this point, he’s done nothing wrong except for the fact of destroying (saving) planets. Planet by planet, to then realise what you will do will be worth nothing, the people you save won’t be grateful. He seeks to become a god over a new universe and is again killed for doing what he thinks is right.
Yeah but he killed trillions on earth and in other planets he took away Hawaii's family and so may others families he forced his will to thousands planet and killed his daughter it's not nothing
Underrated comment.
I hope you think, that he did right from his point of view and not from any view of any sane being.
I agree with you man.
@@MANJYOMETHUNDER111 there is an obvious difference between Thanos' and Hitler's motivations and you are the ignorant one for conflating the two.
The top 5 best written movie antagonists (in my opinion) based on character complexity:
5. Darth Vader
4. Hannibal Lecter
3. Thanos
2. Anton Chigurh
1. The Joker (Heath Ledger)
An argument could be made for swapping Thanos and Chigurh. Thanos is certainly more complex than Chigurh; Chigurh is simply an unrelenting force whose presence is omnipresent. Chigurh is written in such a way that he accomplishes this with next to nothing, while Thanos, who has everything, never quite reaches omnipresence. For this reason, I gave a slight preference to Chigurh. It could go either way tho.
I know I'm late here, but Hans Landa?
Imagine thinking that Thanos is anywhere near as interesting a villain as Chigurh. Fucking hell.
That's funny cause Anton Chigurh tried to kill Thanos
Thanos in the MCU doesnt make any sense to me at all. He basically wants to get rid of half the people alive, so that there will be more resources available to the people that are left, right? And he eventually gets the infinity stones to do it, because if you have all the stones you can basically do anything. So why not just use the stones to double the resources... or even triple them ect.. instead of killing half the universe? If you kill half the universes population, they will just breed themselves back up to the original number anyway given enough time, especially with the surplus resources. All hes done is put a temporary baindaid on the problem, at the cost of trillions of lives and the sorrow that comes with it. In the comics he wants to kill half the universe because he wants to create a massive amount of death to impress Death herself, the entity he is in love with, and because hes the mad Titan. Im not going to say which motivation is better, but the MCU version doesnt really make sense.
I thought Zemo in Civil War was a fantastic villain as well. The Russo brothers have definitely made the best marvel movies.
Yeah, when watching this I couldn't help but think of Zemo. Really interesting villain. Although I still think Thanos is the better written of the two after this video, maybe I'll go back and rewatch Civil War and think about it more!
Poorly written villain, he had potential and didn’t live up just because of the fact that if you questioned his plan at all it was an awful plan and everything needed to go perfect to happen
And the vulture form Spider-Man homecoming
Colin Martin your own argument collapsed from the second you said it was an awful plan. He did exactly what he planned to do. Break the avengers apart. There wasn’t enough screen time of him for him to be critiqued as badly written. Plus I hear they want to bring him back so I’m sure they’ll do more than what he was intended for...
Thanos
Far From Home Villain
Killmonger
Vulture
Loki
Zemo
Spider-Man has had the most consistent streak of good villains so far. Even the Tobey version. That's a pretty awesome thing.
Thanos is such an amazing villain, and it was kind of a downer when he was used more as a 1-dimensional plot device rather than the decisive methodical evil he was built up to be. Although Endgame is arguably a more fun and entertaining experience (especially for veterans) I feel that infinity war is more stable writing wise
Squidmunk squid The way I look at it is that Infinity War is the Thanos movie, while Endgame is the Avengers movie.
That's... Actually a good point... But damn I love "Endgame".
Truthfully. Endgame is the slightly better written movie, albeit both movies are over-hyped "event" films because of mostly fanboys, that never really come close to achieving true heights of greatness or cinematic masterpieces. At most, they are fun popcorn flicks with enjoyable characters.
@@LordMalice6d9 endgame is not a well written movie. Things just happen.
@@ljpal18 Nah...majority will disagree but hey it's your opinion
Thanos 3:16
For Thanos so loved the universe, that he gave up his only begotten daughter....
"And Thanos saw that it was good."
The Book of Tony, 4:20.
There were six stones. And on the seventh day, Thanos rested.
Vishal Das Thanos snapped and said “let there be light”
*entire screen goes completely white*
She wasn't begotten. She was adopted. :-P
Thanos so loved the universe, that he killed off one of his many children, who he kidnapped and family he wiped out, to murder half the universe.
I don't think thanos is a villan, he's more anti-villan with a purpose to make the world balanced with everyone against him and his ideas he is deemed to be a _mad titan_
He's just misunderstood
He saved them from the celestrials so he a good guy in my opinion he delayed the emergence
This entire video is fantastic. Probably the best analysis of Thanos' character I've come across anywhere so far. You are spot-on and acknowledged every single reason why Thanos is one of the best film villains ever. And as a writer, you gave me a lot to think about when I craft my own villains. Had to subscribe to you after watching this. I'm looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
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The end of infinity war is like having 10 years of emotional weight thrown at you
Ikr!
Ending in Infinity War isn't a proper ending. it just a build up in a movie. the ending is in Endgame
@@69mviewsnt Thanos is the protagonist of Infinity War, his goal was to wipe half of the universe and the movie shows his progress of getting there. In that sense, it is a proper ending.
@@MinedMoviez no it doesn't. did you know where the part when the superhero actually lose and then they manage to wake up and win? it is in every superhero plot.
Thanos win is the middle part. Endgame is the Ending. Infinity War? more like Endgame Part 1
I have something in my mind that always says Endgame success in critics is also 1 in a 14, 000 506. But who knows. i just want another good overrated movie by Marvel after Infinity War that doesn't has an ending
@@69mviewsnt His saying it's the end of Thanos' story the end of in Thanos' opinion his journey. Endgame is the end but the end for the Infinity war series, infinity war was the end of Thanos' story.
14:04 The Voice crack that destroyed half of the universe
but seriously a great analysis of Thanos' arc in Infinity War
Why would you take note of such a minimalistic flaw? Nonetheless, thanks for pointing it out I suppose.
@@Marble_Pie get bent mlp fanboy
Lmao, to the people defending me, I love u. But the memes of my voice crack are hysterical.
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The best villain of recent years was most definitely Nolan’s/Ledger’s Joker. And he is neither relatable nor sympathetic. In fact, the ‘ungraspability’ (i.e. exact contrary of relatability) of the character is the main driver of its success
He is super relatable lol
@@ursosexmachina wait what?!
@@ursosexmachina you sir, seem scarier than joker.
@@helloworldx10 Why
@@etam8099 What?
Thanos was an amazing character in the comic, but the exact motivation wouldn't have translated to screen. They made him a flesh and blood person, with cold logic, but feelings too. Fascinating and very well done. Can't wait for Endgame.
If they've copied the Thanos from the comics, IW would be "NAHHH"
If they've copied the Thanos from the comics, IW would be "NAHHH"
I also love how he never yells, or raises his voice. Sure when he was fighting he screamed, but that's not what I meant. Almost every villain has to be this crazy, over the top, lunatic that screams all the time to enforce his authority. But not Thanos. He's alpha. He doesn't need to raise his voice to prove a point.
I'm surprised this video hasn't given you a boom in subs. This was one of the most detailed dissections of a single character - albeit a now legendary one - and if this is what I'm to expect when I see more of your channel, then I hope others will come to see it the way I do
Pete Madrona thanks so much for the compliment! Glad you enjoyed it, and stay tuned for more. Cheers.
I hope they remember you
I thought the reason why he couldn't double resources was because you can't create or get rid of matter similiar to the law of conservation. Which is also why when the people dies they became dust instead of completely going away.
Also I wanted to say, great video. I enjoyed it!
And even if he did, it would be less effective than killing half of the population, as the population grows exponentially
you can't turn glass into a black hole but thanos did anyway, so I doth think that matters
@@jorgepinzon1394 technically you can turn glass into a black hole but I 100% agree with what you said
Well first off there are plenty of things in the universe that aren't useful resources, so why couldn't he transform sand, random rocks, useless gasses etc into food and combustable components etc? He can definitely do it.
Second, he has the reality stone, he can alter the friggin law of conservation since that's definitely a part of reality.
Third, killing off half the population would certainly result in further secondary deaths as I imagine hundreds of thousands (on earth alone) would die from accidents, riots and people taking advantage to commit cold blooded murder
Fourth, this won't solve the problem, it would simply delay it till the population grows again
@@brandonakabdawg Then why not come up with something that produces an exponential growth of resources? Infinite energy/food sources? The limit is effectively his imagination, and he chooses the solution driven by his psychosis from failing to save his world
That's just a perfect video essay
Кръстьо Стоименов thanks so much!
i dont see thanos as a villian he is just someone with a different perspective
thats wy im actually for him!
I think his motive is very relavent in todays world.
Hey genocidal mao zedong. How are u doing in the hell with Stalin, Hitler, Churchill and mussolini. Is thanos with you all?
But if u think about it he could’ve just created some more resources
Thanos proves a very good point. Killing Half of the universe would give us more time.
@@nakliid5652 no actualy stalin is drunk right now
and hitler is raping a jew
mussolini is at the barber i bet he will be bald soon :/
churchill is yelling at his radio for no reason hes talking about like never surrender or something idk
no thanos actualy used his stones to get out of hell
but satan is a real nice guy for real dude
(PS one question) how is china doing know?
Kevin Feige says that the MCU tries to stay as close to the realm of possibility as possible. As such, Thanos can't double resources because matter cannot be created or destroyed.
then the "snap" has no sense. Well, truth be told, the way they scripted Thanos, his plan has no sense in any case, since with his now infinite power he can pilot the history of every single civilization in the universe to avoid excesses, but hey, the greatest mass murder in history is much more simpler, while badly justified.
@Pan Darius Kairos You're stupid. The writers could easily come up with countless justifications for why Thanos couldn't just double the resources. Each habitable planet has a carrying capacity for a start and even if you dump more resources on it, it might not solve that problem. You're also making the same dumb assumption all you people make which is that the gauntlet gives him total omnipotence and omniscience which is never stated nor demonstrated.
The snap alone largely destroyed the gauntlet, it was smoking and ruined, so if just killing half of all life did that to the gauntlet, transforming gazillions of tons of matter could easily just be beyond the abilities of the gauntlet.
The assumption any rational viewer would make is that Thanos did his research and knew the limits and potential of the infinity gauntlet and determined that snapping half of life out of existence was the only way. Maybe he was callous and there was some other solution, but all you people with your super simple explanations of "durr just make more stuff" are just making all these assumptions and you didn't pay attention to the movie and you're not as smart as you think you are.
As far as population growth, maybe the snap is not a permanent solution, but seeing as Titan was totally destroyed and presumably the race Thanos belonged to went largely extinct, he sees it as necessary to prevent that from happening everywhere else.
@Pan Darius Kairos He actually says that part of killing half of all living things is to teach the remaining half to cherish what they have.
On Gamora's home world, there is no reason that killing half of all life would suddenly make for full bellies and clear skies. You would need to kill a lot more people than 50% for that to happen, like with the near 90% for the various Native American peoples that were wiped out from disease. Their societal and economic collapse was so severe, it caused a mini ice age in Europe.
Perhaps he thought creating a villain that would unite the universe would make for reduced wars, or perhaps he thought that those who have lost loved ones would cherish what life they did have left. A rather naive position to have for such an intelligent being. However, I suspect that the Mind Stone has lone since done away with reason and warped his tragedy into an obsession.
He is evil - not stupid.
@@felixfeliciano7011 ice age is geological. has nothin to do with native genocide
Pan Darius Kairos apparently you got roasted by his logical thinking that you resorted to name calling, lmao, you are one pathetic ass bitch
14:04 this boi said “DaaAUghter”
Steeezy Q Yayyy, finally someone noticed it!
😎
lolol
The voice crack heard round the world lmfao
I love how honest he is. You don't doubt for a second that he truly believes that what he's doing is noble. Also, he doesn't immediately kill the heroes. He could have if he really wanted to but that wasn't his goal. He probably understood that the Avengers were good people doing what they thought was right, so he only tried to kill them if they kept on trying to stop him because his goal was the most important thing to him. I don't think we'll ever get a villain as good as Thanos again.
The only thing they could have done better is set up his connection and feelings toward gamora and his henchmen in prior films. These parts felt rushed
I agree. Maybe a flashback scene in Gaurdians 2, perhaps?
@RainFall that's not enough lol.
They had a deleted scene with Gamora and Thanos but sadly it was cut, it would have been nice to see it in the film
You know Thanos is a relatable meme when you’re stuck in traffic and you instantly think: Thanos snap
Maybe it’s just me
Yeah he snaps and you either die or get stuck for good unless you and other survivors hop in the other half of the cars to move them out of the way lol
Yeah, Traffic has a tendency to get worse when half the people on the road mysteriously disappear from their cars, and half of the people who tow the now abandoned cars are also gone.
Yea and then you are stuck for good since, you know, the cars can't drive by themselves...unless they "are part of the people" like evil Steve Rogers man's arm
Mr. Karl McYoda
Hahah! I never noticed that! And their clothes disappeared as well...
Our planet is grossly overpopulated, and the resource/ environmental problems we face will not be solved nearly in time to prevent global catastrophe/ suffering/ mass species extinction. A Snap would absolutely solve those problems.
I love being able to fully understand Thanos, finding him awesome, and still dreading everything he does. My appreciation of his motivation does not make his success less horrific. If anything, it’s even more upsetting simply because I know how it was bound to happen from the start. I hate thanos’ actions, but I like him as a character
pfff I love his actions
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Carlos Leon ya got me
People always critics Thanos as having a dumb plan.But that’s EXACTLY the point.His motivation and determination to bring balance to the universe blinds him and leads him to a hole filled plan.
Yep. Whether the plan would actually work is irrelevant to his character. The fact that he believes it will is what is important. Thanks for watching.
Thanos is such a cool character, easily my favorite mcu villian and character
TonyDracon what? Another delusional dc fan🤣🤣
TonyDracon better then steppenwolf.... the cgi looked if he was a villain from a cheap ps2 game
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@04:34 - # 1. Thanos is different from his source material;
@06:59 - # 2. Thanos' plan makes sense;
@09:34 - # 3. Thanos is flawed;
@11:35 - # 4. Thanos suffers;
@15:15 - # 5. Thanos [MAJOR SPOILERS].
I also love how he doesn't want to kill anybody that stands in his way except for Tony Stark and Loki for failing him. He never throughout the entire movie killed someone he didn't need to kill. That's, why endgame is going to be so interesting. He doesnt want to fight, he already accomplished his goal and has no further plans. He doesnt target the Avengers/Guardians they just happen to cross his path.
He was basically on his holy crusade, in end game he will be back to being the mad titan.
A lovely breakdown of, definitely, one of the best written villains in recent memory. A perfect demonstration that a comic book villain doesn't need to be silly.
The movie should've been called Thanos: Infinity war he was that good.
Thanos: Snaps fingers
The Universe: Reproduces
Thanos: Am I a joke to you?
Uh he meant snap half of life so other half to thrive will limited resources
@YugenDran 101 did you get the joke?
@@mr_overdrive9216 Nope brother i don't even realise this is joke haha
Earth's population doubled between 1950 and 1987 (2.5 billion to 5 billion in 37 years).
That was the fastest doubling the human population has experienced, but regardless, a doubling from 3.85 billion back to the current 7.7 billion should happen in less than 50 years.
There are a lot of sentient intelligent species in the MCU, some which would reproduce faster than humans and some slower, but needless to say, halving the population would only temporarily solve resource issues. Merely alleviate the problem by decades for some worlds, like Earth, and perhaps centuries at most, for some others.
So Thanos' plan doesn't really make sense.. or rather, it wouldn't work.
@@cykeok3525 keep in mind that thanos snapped half the universe, not just earth, so 70% of earth could still be alive or 25%
Never really thought about it, just took it for granted. But I mean he never kills if he doesnt have, too, has respect for people who are brave and the most stunning thing which I never picked up on was that he actually said "Sorry" to Gamora. That fact really hit me
What bugs me is the misapprehension that killing half a population will stop the population problem. It simply delays it ...for a SHORT while. If he tinkered with the fertility rate so growth is 0% he would have achieved his goal. And those who say “just double the resources” have the same misunderstanding of population ecology... just saying.
It’s never talked about. But I think he would see himself as a Shepard. Lead everyone afterwards. Proof he talks about teaching a grateful universe after he’s destroyed the last one.
@@Dannymiles1987 I saw it as a punishment so that people will learn from it and do better next time
Megamind is a perfectly written villian
SmokingPulp yooooooooooooooo
I'd argue he is more of an antihero; he never came across as genuinely villainous.
caj
if you come up with the ridiculous name megamind, you know they will never be a great villan
Not a real villan
Why not "Why Thanos is a Perfectly Balanced Villain"
Because his right hand is fucking heavy.
Peter Franz As all villains should be.
Thanos is such a wicked superhero. After Endgame I am still team Thanos
But didn't Thanos see the ending already it's weird but he should've still won
You're still onboard with his plan to wipe out the entire universe and start over?
@@mapleace6185 A small price to pay for salvation
@@Baboner984The only problem is that the plan makes no sense and certainly won't lead to salvation.
@@mapleace6185 yes it does make sense? I would do exactly the same if i was him
Loki - *Wanted to prove himself for the greater good*
Red Skull and Alexander Pierce: *Aims to bring order and unity*
Ultron: *Promotes Peace and Superiority*
Thanos: *Seeks balance and sustenance*
Hela,Ronan,Malekith,Dormammu - *Seeks absolute power/control*
Ego - *Seeks Fulfillment of his Life*
Kaecillus - *Was fooled but tried to make the world a better place*
Zemo - *Break a team apart for vengeance*
Thanos: has a plan that doesn't make sense.
More like Ultron wants change and evolution
Its so sad to see what happened to Thanos in Endgame. Not only to him the character in the sense of pain or destruction but also how much less interesting Endgame was compared to Infinity War
I think that's because Infinity war is seen from his perspective, therefore it's easier to see his point of view. Whereas endgame was more from the heroes point of view so you see him for the monster he really is.
Evening Star well said.
Evening Star yeah. It shows us the real thanos, that even though his intensions seem good in infinity war, as soon as his “mercy” fails he resorts to complete destruction. I think it adds to his character, showing how far he’d really go, while also establishing that he is not fit to be a god because he doesn’t care about the universe, more about his own image of the universe. He actually lacks empathy, he can’t understand why no one else will feel grateful. I don’t think he ruined endgame or that his character really changed drastically off screen.
You got to remember the brilliant Thanos you love was dead after Thor killed him. The Thanos you see from then on is the 2014 version
Evening Star Well said, that’s not a bad thing either. In fact it makes perfect sense, in infinity war, Thanos won completely, therefore it was seen from his POV, but in Endgame, The Avengers win so it makes more sense to show their POV.
Just saw Infinity Wars for the first time
You’re right he is the perfect villain
Still in shock with the end of the film
You should have seen what it was like in the theaters while Infinity War was playing. At the end one could hear a pin drop in between the soft sobs in the dark. Nobody spoke. The mood was subdued and dark. Truly a one of a kind cinematic experience. Shoes that Marvel and the Russo brothers had the magic formula. I doubt anything like Infinity War will happen in movies for a longtime.
And he is a great villain to use for memes
Ethan S Winter fax
My favorite part of Thanos's character development is one I've never seen mentioned. It's just the subtle moment that he turns young Gamora's head away as her people are being massacred. Every time I see it it almost brings tears to my eyes to think that he's committing this horrible act yet at the same time trying to protect this little girl. It perfectly sets up and adds a lot more weight to Gamora's sacrifice scene.
*gestures* see?? thanos is not a shitty person. is his plan shitty? yes. does it make sense? ...yes.
14:04 what happened to your voice mate?
*DaUghter*
It was just so emotional that he couldn't contain it.
Its called the human voice ...if your acting like it has never happened to you then your a idiot or a liar
yeah you probably wouldn't know tends to happen to people who have actually hit puberty so i guess that's why you don't know
its a joke yall being triggered by him saying this? lmao
Lmfao. Also to people defending me, really appreciate the love and you’re the real ones but it’s just a voicecrack. And I like the memes of it in the comment section.
I would love to see a solo movie on Thanos as some sort of prequel to where he became the “mad titan” or somehow bringing him back but in another parallel universe where he’s the “anti-hero” or him battling some greater evils out in the cosmos. I remember there being a comic issue of him traveling to the outer part of the universe where even death doesn’t exist.
"Where even death doesn't exist." Now that is a scary thought.
I used the stones to destroy the stones
- Thanos 2019
Then he got stoned
One of the best written parts is the sacrifice of gamora. The lines “the tears aren’t for him” and “I’m sorry little one” are some of my favorites.