And idk if that consider winning.. Since thanos already won in the end of Infinity war and the snap already happen and everyone have receive the after math of the snap..
@@khattab5351 he won 14 million times in alternative realities, say different parallel universes, but Avengers only made it once, and we are shown that universe, so he had the ultimate probability
I feel so sad for him, he lost everything he had just to achieve his ambition. He worked selflessly for it. Some people say it's wrong and some say it's right, but what matters is his dedication towards his goal and how focused he is no matter what, i love that and i think everyone should learn that quality in life, including me.
@@DetectivThomas that's not how the time stone works, it shows you different future that may or may not happen, it doesn't show you other parallel universes, it's called TIME stone, not parallel universes stone, he didn't win 14 million times, he just had the odds of 14 million:1 to win, which honestly is a huge exaggeration, the avengers had it in the pocket, there is no way they had that slim of a chance to win
1. tried the hardest 2. willing to break himself 3. aware of his flaws 4. didnt wear a mask 5. didnt rest on hope 6. didnt put trust in anyone other than himself
@@furycarnategaming for me they are more strengths than weaknesses you shouldn’t hope for a savior if you can find one or find something for you to hope for that’s good but you should try to do it yourself and yeah you should have people that you can trust around you but also be vigilant so you can be be prepared for betrayal
"We see Thanos call his cleansing merciful, yet we see a child panic in fear as they violently hold on to life." Damn didn't know it was that type of day again
@@Testingthisname Actually, I'd say they are, but they don't feel pain, at least. That is the best and most merciful way to die, far better than everything else it has to offer.
Thanos is frighteningly relatable..we all believe what we do is right. Infinity war made me step away unknowing how to feel. All we do know is Thanos wanted it the most.
I still think that Thanos should’ve won, he’s like endeavor but looks towards the greater good, he has sacrificed more than the avengers can imagine, he was the embodiment of the quote “he’s out of line but he has a point”
Thanos: I have infinite cosmic power... Imma kill half the ppl in the universe. Everyone else: But... u could double resources and itd have the same effect. Or like... Make all life survive by photosynthesis? Thanos: NOPE... murder is the only answer Thanos was beyond wrong... you people need critical thinking skills
Did... did you actually color code each section like they were Infinity Stones..? Dude. And it looks like they're in the order Thanos acquires them. Duuude. A1 attention to detail.
Thanos had the conviction. Coulson: You're gonna lose. Loki: Am I? Coulson: It's in your nature. Loki: Your heroes are scattered, your floating fortress falls from the sky... where is my disadvantage? Coulson: You lack conviction.
The funny thing is, in the original comic, Thanos lost because of his lack of conviction. Adam Warlock's whole plan against him (as far as I recall) was based on having some insight into Thanos' mind and knowing that he would have to lose because deep in his psyche he is a big loser who will always self-sabotage and is destined to fail.
@Categórico Just because the movie tells you that it makes sense does mean it actually makes sense. A lot of people are annoyed at the fact that Dr. Strange's master plan relied on a random rat walking over an ipad, but I think that it's worse than this. The entire plan relies on Scott going to the avengers with the idea/tech and Tony figuring out how it would work right? Well what if Tony and Scott died in the snap? If either one had died in the snap, Endgame couldn't happen and Dr. Strange's plan would have failed. And theres no way he could know who would get snapped or not since it's completely random, so he gave Thanos the time stone, hoping that the right people would survive the snap and that the random rat would trigger the van. Also, Tony didn't rely on that until the end of his life. He clearly gave up on Strange's plan for 5 years while he abandoned the avengers and went to live in a cabin in the woods. He only restarted believing in the plan once he figured out the time travel. In many many ways Endgame made Infinity War worse. This is a prime example
@Categórico I guess I misunderstood your point because we interpreted Strange's line differently. The way I understood his whole "I looked at 14 million different future timelines and only in one of them did we win" is that in that timeline, he literally saw Endgame play out where Scott and Tony survive the snap and the rat gets him out of the van, etc. So I thought that Strange thought that if he gave the time stone up, Thanos would do the snap and set up the avengers perfectly for Endgame, but my problem was that there was no way to predict who would survive the snap. The reason I say Infinity War is worse because of Endgame in this case is that I assumed that Strange's 1 in 14 million wasn't reliant upon complete chance, and that predictable actions would lead to that 1 if he gave up the time stone. The rat is fine...i guess...I do find it overly convenient. I think it would have been far better to have some looter break into the storage facility and mess with the tablet, therefor bringing Scott back. But it's a very minor issue in a very flawed movie. Absolutely agreed with Thanos plan in IW. Malthusian theory was debunked long ago and his culling of the universe would have a less than negligible affect on the progress of history as a whole. Before Endgame, the only way I could come up with a reasonable explanation for his plan is that he arbitrarily can't create new resources for the universe and that he is planning to cull the universe by half every million years or so FOREVER in order to have any actual impact at all. Another way that Endgame makes IW worse is that it reveals that Thanos was only going to cull the universe once then destroy the stones and he could have created new resources instead of killing anyone in the first place turning his whole plan into some random immature outburst of genocide for literally no reason in the face of a peaceful and logical alternative solution. I also enjoyed the movie, for what it was. I think that Endgame is a 5 at best and IW was around a 7 at the time and a 6 now. These are actually pretty good scores for Marvel movies for me as I only actively love two or three of them and dislike most of the rest of them.
Plus, Doctor Strange is most likely stretching the truth. Think about it, this is all different possible outcomes. Only 14 million? What seems like a very low number when compared to infinite possibilities. There must’ve been some other outcomes where Thanos was defeated. Remember, this is infinite other outcomes. For all we know, there could be a possibility were Thanos realizes that he just killed the producers of Shrek 5 before it came out!
I feel like I'm the only one in my group of friends that was sad when he didn't eat his soup. He was just making food and then he got jumped by everyone.
I feel that First Man wasn't undeserving of that Oscar either. The visual effects in that movie were astonishing as well, it was really hard to tell what was practical and what was CGI.
Honestly Thanos isn’t just one of my favorite villains in the MCU, he’s one of my favorite characters. Appearance, powers, motivations, personality, all of it.
Thanos is my favorite villain because of all that. He may be an evil man, and he even acknowledges that his actions are brutal, but at the end of the day he thinks what he does is right. Plus Thanos is strangely honest for a villain. Even Darth Vader is a liar, though not to the extent of Darth Sidious. Also he’s just a bad-ass in general, haha. I love his design too, especially the variation of colors. It’s the same reason why the Joker has a great design.
@@ralyman2 Did you watch the movie? Thanos had experienced the struggles of over population firsthand with his people which is why he goes and does the things he does in the movie. It's pretty clear he knows that being the cause of death for half of the fucking universe is evil, but he still does it to prevent the people from experiencing the same thing he did.
Most of the people are good and sometimes do something they know is bad. Some people are bad and struggle everyday to control it. Others don't give a single damn as long as they are not caught. But evil is a completely different creature, evil is bad that believes it's good.
@@medic5258 Understand your point but this would make him an hypocrite. He had the right idea but the WRONG execution. He took innocent people lives away and even though people say he “should’ve won” doesn’t make him any better because he should’ve died with them. He caused destruction continuously as well and he’s not perfect either and has sins just like everyone else so him trying to excuse his actions by saying it’s something good wasn’t okay.
@@medic5258 Like I said before his idea was good but the way he planned it was stupid or on MCU’s part. There was no “what’s next” because even though he wiped out half, the population can still grow even more and fertility rated are the reason population is so high. Maybe if he dug deeper, he could’ve find an actual way to solve his problem without people getting hurt.
@@medic5258 he did all of that for a temporary solution. Cutting the population of the Universe in half... Growth rates would bring it back in time, consumption of resources would continue... He would have been better served trying to create some revolutionary technology, or agricultural improvements to minimize the needed resources.
Would he have won if he didn't have super powers. Second of all if you sacrifice everything for you goal then WTH do you deserve to win? You don't actually win you lose in the end. All The Averagers lost including Thanos.
Turn that one around, if you can. Thanos is the last of his people, the only survivor of a failed race. A man without family or home; a foreigner everywhere, even on Titan, where his most dominant memory is his own failure. And like Titan, ruins are all that remains of his people. You probably can't imagine, but try anyway. Would you wish this fate onto anyone? To have nothing left of your home, your family, your culture, even your planet; nothing excepts for ruins and dust. Like a man who lived in Pompeii in 70 AD and returned home to find nothing but molten rock where once there was his home, his world. Yes, children die. Children died on Titan, panicking in fear as they violently clinged to existence and were ripped from their mothers arms in death. There are no heroes, only villains with improper story telling.
@@sorrowandsufferin924 a very eloquent endorsement of a sick person. Thanos vision/mission while understandable given his experience is deeply flawed and pretty easy to poke holes in.
I never quite understood why Dr strange didn't open a portal below his feet then close it as he's half way thru falling. They established what happens with Cull Obsidian's unbreakable skin. Hot knife through butter.
He didnt win 14 million times. He only won 14 million times from that key point in the timeline where Strange says so. So that point was the point which made the difference where he lost the one reality based on how Strange set it up since he saw that, that was the point where it became just one possibility which strange set up. Strange just went through 14 million possible options.
But remember that he killed thor's brother and his best friend in front of him. The murder was justified. For everyone else, loved ones turned to dust but thor witnessed the people he loved get stabbed or strangled to death and thrown away like garbage. Thanos had it coming.
In my opinion Thanos was the best part of Infinity War, he really stole the show and it was more a film about him and his journey to collect the infinity stones and restore the balance as opposed to focussing on the avengers. He was a very compelling villain through his cunning, determination and relatable character traits. He is without a doubt the best villain in the MCU!
The truth is THANOS did WIN. What he really wanted to do was to be with 💀 DEATH because he loves HER. If you read the comic books he was courting DEATH. 💙
That's how he wanted it hid original plan was explained on Titan to genocide in a unbias way rich and poor healthy and sick doesn't matter who as long as half is gone. I'm sure he'd have control over who dies if he wants to a certain extent and because of that he chose random genocide just like he originally planned. It's him thinking it's fair.
Apparently he spared a few characters. He got the space from Loki by torturing Thor, the soul stone's location from Gamora by doing the same to Nebula and the time stone in exchange for Tony's life. Apparently that's why them three survived.
@@reenokop”apparently”… bro you say this statement as if it’s lore accurate. You can find shit ton of coincidences like these but that’s what he meant by random! IT IS RANDOM!
Alec Powers that was before Thanos lost Gamora. That Was the 2014 Thanos. 2018, 2023, and 2014 are all completely different Thanos’s. 2014 Thanos lived in vain and didn’t care about life. 2014 Thanos hadn’t experienced losing Gamora. Hence he doesn’t value life of others yet.
Unfortunately neither the clap nor the snap actually fix anything for too long. A very intelligent man called Thomas Malthus described it: Resources in general tend to grow arithmetically (meaning they pile up at the same rate every generation), while populations grow geometrically (meaning every generation grows more than the one before), when the resources are available. Resource scarcity and competition is the only known way for life to balance this out on its own.
@@apopompi The biggest criticism of Malthusian theory, which explained why his predictions failed, was that he failed to account for the fact that a certain fraction of the population also becomes producers. So, an exponential growth can lead to an almost equivalent growth in resources (more production, more technological advancement, more productivity etc.).
Best way is to make a third of the population in all species sterile and make it a gene that passes down from generation to generation (basically Dan Brown's Inferno). That will keep the growth under control
Admit it boys, we're all kinda getting bored of seeing villains lose. Cartoon villains are too slow with their final task, or are stupid. Movie villains are just bruh
@@butterfinger28 thats not a hard bar to hit. his entire character falls apart for me due to the inherent stupidity of his big evil plan. He was better as an insane stalker/worshiper simping after Lady Death. Not some ecoterrorist bent on enacting a plan that wont actually work, the flaws of which can easily be figured out with a mere fractio of the brainpower of Thanos himself.
If they made more villain plots smaller scale and more personal there could be more villain wins but as it stands most of the time the villain winning means the entire planet or galaxy is gonna 'splode or something. But if the villain winning meant maybe only a country or a state or something gets nuked, that could happen a lot more. Invincible Comic spoiler but one of the 'villains' actually nukes Las Vegas into literal glass and essentially 'won' as an example since hey, that was the goalpost instead of the entire world lol.
@@codyj6505 Lol true, Joker hit's hard for a villain story. And it's better if the entire universe isn't annihilated since it leaves everything hanging in the fact everyone's dead nothing left. But if a city, state, country or even one guy is erased then I'm more fine with that tbh.
Mr CIA Boss Man honestly, I've only seen The Avenger, Age of Ultron, Civil War, Black Panther, and Spider-Man Homecoming as well as Agents of Shield, but I've learned everything about the Iron Man and Captain America movies
It was an obnoxious gimmick. The attributes were as nonsensically divided and overlapping as the infinity stones themselves. There's a huge market for verisimilitude of profundity, that's for sure.
Infinity war was all about him. That's Thanos's movie. Endgame is all about the avengers on how they can stop someone that had totally beaten them senseless
@@SethKolbePrefect That's why he had to die *twice in the same movie* 1st for revenge for him winning in infinity war and 2nd to stop him from winning again but more escalated since he's fighting seriously this time.
@@Random_Travelling he will probably return someday, he is the best character in the mcu, i wanted to thanos snapped, stay done, not reversing anything, he is right, in 100%
12:25 I think I know that quote there "The death of one is a tragedy, the death of millions is just a statistic" - Joseph Stalin Gamora's death is a tragedy Half the universe dying is just a number
I would agree, if not for the care taken in showing members of that half the universe as well. "I don't feel so good, Mr. Stark." Half the universe being gone was, at least for me, devastating compared to Gamora's death. This particular situation subverts that generally true quote.
@@RilfDanielson The quote doesn't apply to how the film is shot. The reason for that quote is that a single death is a "hot" example, where the person has a name, has a mother, etc. The point is that you empathize with the individual compared to the millions being a "cold" example. The "cold" example being a large group of nameless and faceless people, where even if you throw the names on screen, they all blur together preventing that personal emotional connection. The movie was shot in a way to give you a "hot" reaction to Gamora's death and a "hot" reaction to half the universe being gone. It wants to pull at your heartstrings in BOTH cases, not just in Gamora's. YOU can of course feel any way you want, but the movie itself is trying to get you to feel a different way. (An interesting Hot/Cold discussion point is looking at the morality of the following situations; a train is out of control going down a track and will certainly crash and kill 15 people down the line, but you can flip a switch to change the track. Changing the track will cause one person to die that would have normally survived. This is a cold situation where you can just weigh 15 lives against one. The hot version is the same set-up, but instead of a switch, there's a really fat guy you could push on to the track that will derail the train and save the 15. Mathematically, its sacrificing one for 15 in either case, but humans generally will have a larger problem pushing someone to their death than flipping a switch that will kill.)
For anyone who has ever complained about Cap holding back Thano's hand, they need to be shown this video and maybe help them understand it was Thanos holding back. This was just a magnificent character study, keep up the awesome work!
When thanos pinched captain America in the face, he should’ve died. Remember at the start when thanos overpowered hulk with one stone, well thanos punches cap with 4 stones and he didn’t even show any sig of pain or bloodshed
@@legendary3952 1) He's not using the stones against Hulk or Cap. The gauntlet in the MCU is not passive. 2) He's always holding back against humans, while Hulk is someone near his level, and even then he doesn't try that hard to wreck his ass with no stones
@@legendary3952 Yeah man, Thanos is about making everyone see the world through his eyes, so he's not trying to close as many eyes as he can. He's surprisingly controlled.
Thor and Thanos are the most tragic characters of MCU who lost everything people talk about Ironman and captain America yes tony sacrificed himself but he knew his wife and daughter are safe when he died Steve went to live with love of his life but Thor lost his father, mother, brother, home,his whole planet , half of his people, his eye , hammer, hair, I think he even lost himself in endgame he lost so much that maybe I'm forgetting somethings
I feel they had a good balance with Thanos in that he's a very powerful and dangerous character, but without feeling so overpowered you assume the Avengers don't stand a chance. Like's he's an 8feet tall imposing purple giant, but he's not quite on the level of certain 'cosmic' characters we've seen in the MCU like Ego or Dormammu or Surtur. Its that combination of power combined with willpower that makes him such a great villain.
He's depicted as powerful but also smart. There are times where he is out gunned, such as by Scarlet witch and Captain Marvel. But he comes out on top, because he out thinks them.
Who wins: thanos with 5 infinity stones of his choice, or every marvel hero all at once, without any of the major disadvantages they had in infinity war?
@@minecrafter3448 i think he still beats most of them, but I’m using comic thanos as a guide if anything the marvel heroes will just get up again after losing at first and beat him
Well end game is basically part 2 to infinity war for the final part of the third Avenger movie but, rather than a part 1/2 title like Harry Potter, Hunger Games, etc... they just titled it different cause you can’t have a 5 hour plus movie but, what I’m saying is endgame is infinity war continued half so essentially you prefer the beginning half of the movie...?
@@CallumsVNETWoRK It was originally intended to be part 1 and 2, but they changed that. They are two seperate movies now buddy. Infinity war is one movie and endgame is another. Yes Infinity War was better than Endgame. Simple as that
Unironically one of the best Video Essays I have seen. Your arguments are expertly crafted, perfectly phrased and well-structured. Thank you for this exemplary Character Analysis.
Thanos himself should've died with the SNAP. That would be the perfect ending for his character, it would show how much he was prepared to sacrifice. Plus it would mean remaining Avengers bringing back the lost ones also bringing Thanos back.
You definitely miss the point. He's not selfless. It's all an act. He doesn't help the universe, not does he intend to. He just wants his cult to help him on his power trip. And this makes him a more interesting villain than you give him credit for.
@@sk8erbyern The point is that Thanos killing himself/including himself in the snap would be out of character. He presents the fisaad of selflessness to his cult. It's not personal to them, so the shared responsibility makes sense to them. The Infinity Gauntlet should be able to do anything, but instead he does the bare minimum to fulfil a power trip. He doesn't truly believe what he is doing will benefit the universe. The Russos confirmed that he is a sociopath. He's doing to the whole universe what he wanted to do with Titan. It's a power trip. The villain is deceptive. People buying the Thanos he sells are part of the message. The cultural impact affirms the film's comment about how dictators are manipulative. The charisma along with the absolute conviction can do something as insane as convince perfectly sane people that something with the power to do anything can be wielded by a man with good intentions who uses it only to cause mass genocide. When his real motive is laid out so plain, people believe in him. That's why Thanos is so scary. The villains that get under our skin expose something about us. r/Thanosdidnothingwrong is more shocking than "I am your Father" because it's among us. Tangible. A change I would make to Endgame would be that Thanos uses the time stone to bring back Titan, only for him to prove them right and force the people to acknowledge that. Or anything to reveal his true motives in IW.
"How Could Thanos Be Sure His Plan Wouldn't Have Killed Him? Thanos' ultimate plan to bring balance to the universe is simple. By killing half of the universe's living population, he reasons that he can avert resource shortages that, if left unchecked, would lead to the collapse of life on various planets. But when asked how it is that Thanos could be certain that he himself wouldn't be one of the randomly selected people who were atomised at the end of the movie, Russo hinted that the Titan might not have actually been fully in control of the process: You can ask if he allowed himself to be apart of that random process. He does have a very interesting look on his face. When we come back to him after the snap before he disappears, a look of surprise." Source: www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/05/report-joe-russo-gave-the-infinity-war-answers-youve-been-waiting-for-to-a-bunch-of-teens/amp
I honestly hope Thanos remains undefeated, and rather than being killed, he gets talked into doing the right thing. It would really break the mold of heroes always win in the traditional sense
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people run on ideas show them whats wrong with the idea by addressing the one motivating factor they have show them examples using analogy first write a story on every single flaw and examples for the arguments then address him
@@stoffe010 There was a story in which Thanos erased the universe, then realized how wrong he was. He restored the universe and chose to erase himself.
I know but do you really think he would change now? He lost everything to get to this point, he can't turn back now and he knows it... My theori is that hulk will come back and finish off thanos to end the story like how it began (With thanos fighting hulk) and it would also be cool to see hulk using the power stone in some way maybe. World breaker hulk in A4?!
Great video, but I would also add that another reason Thanos is the perfect antagonist for the Avengers is that unlike them he has both power AND control. So many of the Avengers are massively powerful yet lack control over themselves; Stark can't control his ego at the best of times, (and completely loses his mind in Civil War,) Black Panther is introduced letting vengeance consume him, Thor is introduced as a spoiled child, Cap does stupid and reckless things for his friends, Spider-man is young and inexperienced etc. In Infinity War, both Quill and Thor screw everything because they let their desire to hurt Thanos overrule their common sense, while Thanos never loses sight of his goal. Even when he realises he has to kill Gamora, his reaction is grief rather than turmoil, because to him she's already dead; there's not really any question in his mind whether or not he has the commitment and willpower to do it. Consequently, throughout the film he has the classical hero's peacefulness, because he's not conflicted in any way, unlike the Avengers who constantly second-guess themselves. This also shows when he goes from speaking softly to openly roaring and relishing a chance to indulge his bloodlust in combat; it's not the uncontrolled mood swing of the lunatic, nor the Wolverine-style struggle to tame the inner beast. He has no self-deception or inner conflict, and can bring everything he has and everything he IS to the fight, knowing exactly when to whisper and when to snarl, and can use every facet of himself effortlessly and efficiently. This combination of power and control is also perfectly communicated physically, not just the skillful way he beats the Hulk, but everything about his body language. He's as heavily built as the Hulk, yet there's no brutishness to him; he stands perfectly upright and poised, moves with grace and without stomping, and uses his massive hands as precisely as someone human-sized. Normally you see big characters either being clumsy and breaking stuff by accident, or so careful not to that every movement is hesitant. Thanos is confident and decisive in every move, even when it requires both strength and precision simultaneously, like when he plucks the comparatively little stone out of Vision's head with fingers strong enough to crush his vibranium skull. If you saw the Hulk with the young Gamora, you'd worry he'd hurt her by accident, you know Thanos only crushes people when he wants to. In the video you compared him to a hero and to a holy man, and I completely agree; the typical journey of the powerful but headstrong hero involves them learning control, calming their inner struggle in a Zen-like manner and dedicating themselves to an ideal rather than being dominated by their own desires. Thanos was already at that point before the film even started, and the plot of the film was just the climax of his personal epic story. Of course all this is only possible thanks to the magnificent performance by Josh Brolin and the incredible CGI, so all credit to them as well as the writers and directors for making one of the most perfect villains ever put on the screen.
Stark has already mastered his ego by civil war tje only reason he went all out was because he literally was standing in the room with the same guy who shot his dam parents
This might be the most beautifully discussed Thanos Analysis video I've seen. To me he is the greatest villain of all time & this video backs it up perfectly
no he is a moron - Now before i explain. IW is my 3rd fav MCU film, I think it's great - however There is a glaring issue with Thanos overall plan and motivation. this problem makes him a terrible villain. NOW HE IS COOL. but he can never be considered up there with Magneto or Zod or Vader etc. Cause his plan has fundamental flaw. Its a stupid plan for children who don't want to think or use their brains. Its a surface level plan that when you actually examine it - is moronic and achieves nothing. Here is why killing half the Universe at random equally for every planet to bring Balance so that resources last for said planets IS COMPLETE NONSENSE Ok firstly lets pretend the universe has 100 Billion Planets harbouring life. ok. just to put a number on it, could be less - most likely more. however lets simply work with that number. ok so not all planets are the same age. not all planets are at the same stage of evolution for it's life. example some planets will be over populated. most will be ideally populated and some will be completely under populated. such as Earth - NOT over populated, some planets will be like earth 50,000 years ago when we had to migrate from Africa due to Climates, and our populations were dangerously low. now if the human race lost half its population then - we would have gone extinct - not bringing balance or paradise but simply ending the RACE - so IT doesn't work. Laws of probability would dictate 200 million planets are over populated and htis measure would help. 200 million would be under populated and this measure would cause extinction, and 600 mill would be ideally populated and this measure would slow the development. Now what is considered LIFE, is it only intelligent life. if so whats intelligent. would half of all dolphins die? why half of all the fish they eat would also die, and there for BOTH things would cancel each other out. no balance in that. NOW biggest flaw of the whole plan is that it is simply a STOP GAP - yes, every planet thats over populated running out of resources. if the resources didn't also lose half their population. well this will help them. until they re populate. and then what - click your fingers again, and again and again - what the point on saving a universe in your own mind, if you simply have to kill half of it over and over? its not a plan that can work. as every time you destroy half you are doing it for the survival of 200 million planets but to the detriment of the other 200 million under populated planets and to the harm of the 600 million ideally populated planets. So it's not only pointless - its moronic. there are far more issues with it than this. but these are the obvious problems to a plan that simply achieves NOTHING
@@reddevilsunited7780 That's the point, Thanos is a Sociopath, he doesn't see any other option because he is batshit insane. Thanos's plan isn't meant to be a good plan or even really one that makes sense, but it's the plan of a genocidal mad man. Thanos saw something that made him think that in the end, the best solution to resource scarcity is to remove the strain on said resources by removing half the users of the resource. Is it a absolutely idiotic plan? Absolutely, but he believes his mission so completely that if you only look at it at face value it could make sense but it is ultimately it's just the desire of a genocidal mad man who simply wanted to kill half the universe.
@@thatspookagain4030 that was 2018 Thanos, not 2024, he never lived that long; but what I meant was that they won twice because they brought everyone back on their reality and then killed Thanos from another reality, so now there's 2 realities where Thanos loses (since by killing Thanos from 2014 they created a new reality without Thanos), and that's without counting the one where Caps goes to the past to live with Peggy
@@miningtrout2868 but bringing everyone back did make him lose, that's my point; they saved everyone on the original timeline, killed 2014 Thanos making a new timeline without him and then Captain America created another timeline after they defeated Thanos, so they won three times
The fact that he said he likes Peter Quill and doesn't kill him and he wholeheartedly respected Tony Stark and hopes that people will remember him, makes me respect Thanos a bit. The characteristics he admires in people are all very respectable traits. Unfortunately he's probably seen, witnessed, and experienced all kinds of hell and hardships, with him losing his home, to be this way. Ego from Guardians wanted to take over EVERYTHING AND EVERYWHERE. Atleast Thanos' intentions are to save the universe as a whole for the greater good. He just lacks compassion and doesn't sympathize people on a personal level with people having to deal with losing their friends and family.. mainly b/c he's already lost everyone on Titan, knows what it's like to prevent more suffering to others. I mean vanishing into dust in seconds seems like a painless way to go for alot of people who are actually suffering. Unfortunately, he's right, it IS mercy
He could have doubled the resources in the snap, or just kept people from being able to reproduce. His intention was the same but it was retribution for his past in the darkest way so that he could inflict the same "strength through suffering" he had endured. His psychosis prevented him from seeing a more gentle solution
Jacob gm The thing is, reducing everything to half was much more possible since all he had to do was transfer them into another place. But if he doubled resources, it doesn’t just come out of nowhere. He’d still have to sacrifice something.
Totally agree. I feel like his intentions are good and well-founded. It's his execution of the solution that's a little sketchy but I kinda like him. I actually did a video on why I feel Thanos is the hero in Infinity War ua-cam.com/video/YOtiv9pePwQ/v-deo.html
Endgame should have ended with thanos winning again. It would have been perfect to know that heroes don't always win. Then they could just reboot the mcu and include xmen
Nichole Omg meee toooo! And when Gamora had just started to realize that THANOS’ tears were for her, and what He was about to do, I started bawling 😭 like a sobbing baby! Ughh and when He said “I’m sorry Little One” ughhh I tell you the tears were like floods!
@@nitamishra9645 nah, he is one of the scarce ppl who understood that there are only three movies. it's just like with star wars. there are only two trilogies. I really don't know what you're talking abt. u mean the fan fics?
I would say that sometimes you need a great will to act, but in others an even greater will to not act. When Thanos does all this Chaos, bringing destruction and pain to so many people including himself and the ones he loved, that is the type of situation where someone would need an EXTRAORDINARY will to stop and give up on doing what is wrong.
Or the most arrogant. His selfish pride and will stopped him from seeing other options. He has not grieved the memories of his home destroyed. That ultimately is his weakness. Why didn't he create double the recourses? Why didn't he create universe wide peace so that everyone could work together? Why didn't he give worlds the technology to speed across the INFINUTE universe with INFINUTE recourses and harvest them? It is because of his fear of the natural order of things. His memories make him want to stop others from feeling his pain. Which seems good but would you let someone into your house with the intent to give all your money to the poor and needy and hold you at gunpoint to do so?(also you don't know their intent) If yes that is your opinion. But if not you understand the avengers. Someone is going to earth! THEIR HOME!!! and holding it at gunpoint. They don't know why. all they know is that he plans to kill half of all people. The others like the Gradians of the galaxy (excluding Gomora) know much more. They still try to stop him though! I'm sorry but I cannot agree with Thanos.
@@hunter-1717 The gauntlet in the movie doesn't have the ability to create. It just alter an manipulates. Nothing can be truly destroyed or created. The universe is NOT infinite, its finite in the grand scale of things. Its like you didn't even paid attention when he explains it. Thanos have a really strong conviction. its not about pride or arrogance. he truly believes on what he was doing. Which the Avengers lack besides Tony. It doesn't matter that you agree with it or not. Also, what the hell is infinute..
@@RhazOfRheos The gauntlet can't create matter but form matter. turn all trash and useless stars into great recourses. I saw this movie 15 times and love it! I am also a Marvel nerd and know more than the average joe about things like this. Also infinute is my computers way of saying "this guy sucks at spelling" in other words auto correct is garbage. Yes Thanos truly believes what he is doing is right. But where did that start? It started with pain he felt! What I am saying is what he wants to theoretically do is good! But it is his stubborn and unchangeable ways that kept him from sing different options. Your right the universe is finite but the multiverse is infinite in Marvel. That means Infinite possibilities! The gauntlet gave Thanos the power to travel between these dimensions. Take and reform recourses from evil in the other dimensions. Or a dimension with no people!
@@hunter-1717 If you know more than the average joe, you should know that the IG doesnt work outside its Universe. Going to other multiverse will make it null. And the movies IG also have the limit that altered reality wont stay as it is if the IG isnt in the vacinity. Hence why Drax and Mantis isnt dead during their first accounter. The movies IG is so limited and its not something that can do everything. Its just a very powerfull item. Doing anything in a unversal scale almost destroyed it. He does what he does not because of the pain, he does it because thats the only thing he believed in to save everyone. He propose the Idea long before his people was all gone. His people doesnt head to his words and everyone died and they were a civilazation that can travel the stars. After that he implemented it him self. Swore to help others from facing what his people did. And it WORKED. Gremoras people were on the verge of extinction before, now they prosper more than they ever were after Thanos did what he did. That adds to his conviction that theres nothing else that he could do And he will be the onlh one who have the will to do it. He knows no one will agree to it because no one understands and experiance it. Now judging by the feats of the IG that you see in the movie, what else do you thing he could do?
@@RhazOfRheos "Combined with the other Gems the other powers could usually be granted another dimension to spread their effects. Create a portal through time, gain knowledge, presence, or change reality through all time at once." screenrant.com/marvel-infinity-stones-movie-version-comics/
Great video, as you pointed out in this, Thanos is a character with a moral code, he seems impressed with characters such as Stark, Star Lord and Wanda. He sticks to his word and he kills only when necessary. HOWEVER there is one moment that contradicts this, one moment which portrays him as a stereotypical villain, and that’s with the Dwarves. He said he would let the dwarves live if they made him the weapon, but he killed them anyway. He didn’t even spare half like normal, he killed them all. This goes against everything we learn about the character, I’m working on a video where I explore this more. My main idea is that he knew they had the potential to make a stormbreaker type weapon so he was safeguarding his plan
I think that's exactly it If the dwarves could create a device capable of harnessing the power of the stones then surely they could create a weapon that could kill him And indeed they did But luckily for Thanos it didn't go for the head
The thing is, we never see him actually kill dwarves. We only hear it from last survivor, who naturally hates Thanos. But we don't know why he wiped them out. Dwarves could have attacked Thanos first and he killed them because he had to. And if that was the case Eitri would never say that his people shot first. We, humans, tend to twist the history in our favours. If we are talking about friends, we only remember positive parts about their existance and negative for our enemies and people we dislike. Eitri woud not dishonor his entire race, by talking ill of his people no matter was it truth or not.
@Angelo Casin Its breaking his code by telling them he wouldn't kill them if they make the gauntlet. As mentioned in this video, Thanos sees himself honourable and does not lie. He seems to relate to his opponents and treats them with respect, but in the case of the Dwarves, he acts more like a classic villain going back on his word. His choice to kill the dwarves makes sense, and clearly he felt too much honour to kill Eitri (as you mentioned, in retrospect he should have), but although the choice is logical, it is still uncharacteristic.
He had mercy. He knew the dwarves could help people defeat him, and let 1 of them live anyway. And that almost ruined his life goal, if Thor went for the head...
I cant wait to have a child, kneel next to them after their first big let down, and say "In time you will know what it is like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail all the same. Dread it, run from it. Destiny still arrives."
Something I love about infinity war is how the avengers from the beginning are set up for failure with one major difference. In a few lines we can see this divide Steve: "we don't trade lives." (Can't remember full quote) Thanos:"I've ignored my destiny once, i won't make that mistake again, not even for you." This is why the avengers failed, Thanos was willing to sacrifice everything to complete his goal no matter the cost. The avengers refuse to make a sacrifice they wanted everyone to make it through, and if someone had to make a sacrifice to complete the mission then they wouldn't do it. Thanos won because he had the will to do it, because he could go all the way. The two sides bring up a great moral dilemma, what's more important, sacrificing lives and what is necessary if it means completing the mission or trying to get everyone out with no sacrifice at all but high risk of failure.
Reminds me of what CAP told Stark. "Sometimes you have to lay on the wire so the next man can crawl over your body. You dont look like the type to do the sacrifice play".
Josh Brolin is definitely one of the reasons why I love thanos so much, such a brilliant actor playing such a brilliant character. If you ask me, Josh's voice perfectly fits the appearance of thanos, and because of thanos' large appearance, his voice never feels impeding or too intimidating.
Thanos is commonly reviewed as a poorly developed character. I call bullshit. This video is a great example. Thanos is probably the best comic movie villain we’ve seen since Heath Ledger’s Joker.
@@traviswheeler8885 READ Watchmen. Unfortunately, Ozzymandias' ending was a little too pat in the movie. Doctor Manhattan's final response to Ozzymandias in the original graphic novel/comic laid bare the flaws of Ozzy's plans. Without this awareness of the tragedy of his own sacrifice, Ozzy ends up just a bit too smug. He's still in my top 5, though, I agree he's a fantastic antagonist. Matthew Goode deserved some awards for his portrayal of Ozzy. Oh well.
I honestly haven’t seen anyone say he’s a poorly developed character. On the contrary, every review I’ve read, seen and every friend I speak to praise him.
ENDGAME SPOILER What makes Thanos even more amazing is that he destroys the stones, therefore showing that he doesn't need or want them anymore after he completed the only 1 think he had to do, yet the avengers still murder him on his farm.
iRaliex it’s funny cause that scene they are acting like they are doing something really hard. Holding down and disarming a man who isn’t even trying to fight back. It’s only for a little bit but the heroes looked like such scumbags.
@@raulramirez4734 yooo that's a great way to put it. What are your opinions on him this season? I feel he is acting the way he is because he knows how to win but still its kinda scary how he took a 180 in his character
All your descriptions are very true, but when you look at them as a whole, it highlights what truly makes Thanos a interesting villain. Specifically, he’s not written as a villain at all. Creed- an unceasing dedication to a well explained and logical worldview, spawned from relatable origins. Integrity- a need to stick to your code of honor and not cause any pain that is not absolutely necessary. Cunning- the ability to outthink your opponents, showing intelligence and thought. Vulnerability- being against insurmountable odds, and struggling while the whole world is against you. Determination- despite this, never giving up, because you know you have to do what you feel is right. Sacrifice- a willingness to give up the things that make you happy or whole because it’ll make the world better. Look at these traits again and you see they are not villainous, in fact they’re usually given to the heroes of the story. This is why Thanos works so well as a villain, because he’s written more like a hero who just happens to be fighting against other heroes. That’s why no one wins in the end.
They did the same with Killmonger, who also ended up being a great villain. At the end, he had respect for Tchalla (for not giving up, for not fleeing, even for doing a "sick move"), and was so adamant on his own code that he chose to die, rather than to live outside that code. It felt bad to lose him, because he was absolute hero material.
How can a universe wide mass murderer genocidal maniac not be a villain? If he did all those things in order to be good, which I dare to argue, how come they didn't write him as someone who actually helps people? Or there must be some even greater evil that Thanos tries to fight, but I don't know if that's gonna happen. It's like saying someone thinks it's for the better to commit battery, because it helps discipline people... The perp may think he's right, but it's still wrong. At least in my book... IMO Thanos is, at most, a damaged youth that grew up crooked because he couldn't deal with his trauma's and concluding became the universe's most deluded god-complexed dick.
Dextriathlon I think you missed a lot of the nuances Thanos brings and seem to be projecting things either from other villains or the comic Thanos onto the film version. Thanos doesn’t have a god complex, in fact he smirks at Loki when he tells him that, because it’s not true. Thanos doesn’t want to be a god, he wants to save the universe and in his mind he’s the only one with the will to do what is necessary. In his words, he’s a survivor. Overpopulation and resource consumption are very important issues, and while there are better solutions than killing a ton of people, we aren’t doing them, in fact we’re making more and more people regardless. Many philosophers would say that Thanos’ reasoning is sound.
Just perfectly encapsulates why Thanos is this generation’s Darth Vader. We can only hope he’s just as good a villain in Avengers 4. Because it’s not just the writing of his character that makes him so good, but Brolin’s performance as well.
I see Thanos more as this generation's Emperor Darth Sidious. Just like Sidious, Thanos has: -operated from behind the scenes. -sent other villains to do his dirty work. -created a series of wars just to gain more power for himself (that power being the infinity stones). -corrupted a young child into being his apprentice (that child being Gamora). -only fought the heroes when they found out he's the main cause of all the conflicts. AND -commited intergalactic genocide.
@@loudboy317 I think he was talking more about Vader's impact Thanos is like Vader not in terms of motivations or actions but more on his impact in this generation in just one movie his character has spawned in-depth character analysis, memes, and off course merchandise.
I know this may sound like a large leap, especially with the implicated weight it carries, but I'm gonna say it: Thanos, in my opinion, will go down as one of the greatest villains, not just in the MCU, but in *film history.* Right up there with Darth Vader, The Joker, Hannibal Lector, and so on and so forth. This video, along with many others like it, only validate this for me.
Absolutely phoenominal breakdown. Thanos is by far one of the top 3 villains ever put on screen, and my personal favourite. What make him scary isn't how intimidating he is (like Vader), or how crazy and unpredictable and careless he is (like Joker). What makes Thanos terrifying is his conviction, his sheer will to achieve this goal. The fact that he truly believes that he is doing the right thing, and making life better off for it. Think about it, the only time we saw him mad was when he saw Nebula, his failure of a daughter. Everyone else he treats with respect. This respect + how logical he is + how calm and collected he is = one of the most grounded, relatable villains ever put to screen.
Now before i explain. IW is my 3rd fav MCU film, I think it's great - however There is a glaring issue with Thanos overall plan and motivation. this problem makes him a terrible villain. NOW HE IS COOL. but he can never be considered up there with Magneto or Zod or Vader etc. Cause his plan has fundamental flaw. Its a stupid plan for children who don't want to think or use their brains. Its a surface level plan that when you actually examine it - is moronic and achieves nothing. Here is why killing half the Universe at random equally for every planet to bring Balance so that resources last for said planets IS COMPLETE NONSENSE Ok firstly lets pretend the universe has 100 Billion Planets harbouring life. ok. just to put a number on it, could be less - most likely more. however lets simply work with that number. ok so not all planets are the same age. not all planets are at the same stage of evolution for it's life. example some planets will be over populated. most will be ideally populated and some will be completely under populated. such as Earth - NOT over populated, some planets will be like earth 50,000 years ago when we had to migrate from Africa due to Climates, and our populations were dangerously low. now if the human race lost half its population then - we would have gone extinct - not bringing balance or paradise but simply ending the RACE - so IT doesn't work. Laws of probability would dictate 200 million planets are over populated and htis measure would help. 200 million would be under populated and this measure would cause extinction, and 600 mill would be ideally populated and this measure would slow the development. Now what is considered LIFE, is it only intelligent life. if so whats intelligent. would half of all dolphins die? why half of all the fish they eat would also die, and there for BOTH things would cancel each other out. no balance in that. NOW biggest flaw of the whole plan is that it is simply a STOP GAP - yes, every planet thats over populated running out of resources. if the resources didn't also lose half their population. well this will help them. until they re populate. and then what - click your fingers again, and again and again - what the point on saving a universe in your own mind, if you simply have to kill half of it over and over? its not a plan that can work. as every time you destroy half you are doing it for the survival of 200 million planets but to the detriment of the other 200 million under populated planets and to the harm of the 600 million ideally populated planets. So it's not only pointless - its moronic. there are far more issues with it than this. but these are the obvious problems to a plan that simply achieves NOTHING
@@reddevilsunited7780 Yes it's not a great plan - but it's what makes him the villain, and also what makes him real. History is full of men who committed great evil in an ideological fanaticism to do what they thought would serve the greater good - and most of the time what they thought was the solution the world's or their nation's problems was moronic, simplistic and very shallow. Your argument is one that Thanos was wrong (hence him being the villain), not that he was badly written.
Edward Lightowlers no. You completely mistaking a flawed villain and a moronic stupid plan. It's the equivalent of me saying I'm going to blow up the bank with a nuclear bomb in order to rob the money. It simply doesn't make sense
I just noticed the colour filter changes according to the infinity stones and the order he gets them. (Kinda obvious)Also finally an analysis where the speaker is calm and not overexcited
Has anyone else noticed this? Thanos to Loki: the Stone or your brother. Thor survives the snap Strange to Thanos: spare his life and I will give you the Stone. Tony survives the snap Thanos to Wanda: I understand (your loss and pain). Wanda gets reunited with vision
you on to something there, Strange ple to thanos makes a lot of sens wen looking at how endgame trund out. In fact it could seem like Strange mad a calculated move for that 1 chance to happen
The only issue I ever had with the MCU's version of Thanos was his goal: wiping out half the population of the universe. I understood the Russo's reason for this goal, which was to make Thanos into a character that is doing bad things for a seemingly good reason rather than the selfish villain from the comics who is doing it to win the heart of Lady Death. The problem I have with his goal in the MCU movies is that he is too intelligent to have that goal. If you wipe out half the universe, over time the universe will repopulate and leave you with the same situation which led to Thanos wanting to destroy half of it to begin with. He then destroyed the thing that allowed that solution to be used again, temptation as he called it in End Game (there is also the fact that someone like the Avengers would want to find him and use it to undo what he did). Thanos is smarter than that. He would have a more permanent solution to the problem, to avoid it happening again. His goal just seemed too temporary.
@@williamblazkowicz5587 One, he is from the planet Titan. He was called "Mad" by his own people (other Titans) for his solution to their planet's resource problem. His solution was dispassionate and fair, but still genocide. This does not mean he is insane, just extreme.
Idk if it helps that much because we only see the aftermath of infinity war on earth, but the snap still hindered everything for 5 years on earth, the impact and distraught is what i believe gave thanos the edge and his thinking being, if they were to try it or itll happen again theyd fear the inevitable of it happening again, it doesnt sound like his thinking but it matches up in a way, his way to keep things in the universe balanced for the time after is fear for something worse
perhaps the population was simply outgrowing the technology capable of supporting the population. with half the population wiped, the technology to expand will keep increasing exponentially to overtake the rate of growth of the population. my theory anyways.
@@samuelvillegas7635 it did end right there thanos won countless times. this is why everyone prefers infinity war over endgame. endgame is a ending they won but with sacrifice but thanos still won every other possible outcome. but as for the whole cinematic universe ending? boy oh boy pick up a comic book involving dr doom hes on par or even better and it would be sad to never see a true adaptation of him (looking at the 2000s live action dr doom smh) so no it shoudlnt have ended the only thing that ended was the avengers saga we still have to do fantastic four and xmens
lol oh the sweet naivety XD ever heard of overprotective fathers? As if fathers had not killed boys for almost as little as looking wrong at there daughters, and they sure did it out of love. Also Thanos hole character, is he will do what he thinks right and not care what others think: if he did not like "gamora's boyfriend" i see no reason he would not snap that guy out of existence.
@@MouseGoat Thanos didnt think of every single individual being that was snapped out of existence to fade. Even if Thanos did not mean to kill Quill, his will was to wipe out half of existence and the gauntlet simply followed through There was no picking and choosing
@@MouseGoat Did you not watch the video? The whole point of Thanos is his principles. It's not about what he likes or doesn't like, it's about what he thinks is right. There was no reason for Quill to die before the snap, so he didn't kill him.
Man I remember the buildup to infinity war, everyone was so worried Thanos wouldn’t live up to the hype, but then they went and did it. Infinity War was an experience.
I like what you did with the color scheme. Purple(power), Blue(space), Red(reality), Orange(soul),Green(time) and when it's finally completed with the last color Yellow(mind) . Edit: you even timed it when he puts the last stone in the gauntlet. Nice!
@@HowardTheDucksWong Endgame was a complete mess, predictable, bland and at times just cringeworthy. 5 out of 10 for me, i kept watching the time in movie theater.
Very notable is how Captain America’s mantra in this movie is “We don’t trade lives.” Meanwhile, it’s shown to be the only thing that can actually work with stakes this high. But what Thanos fails to recognize is that his ‘sacrifices’ aren’t noble. Noble sacrifices are a sacrifice of one’s self, and enabling someone else to sacrifice themselves by their own active choosing. Not sacrificing someone else for your own ends. Cap is wrong because he refuses to allow Vision to destroy the stone in himself. Thanos is wrong because he chooses his own personal beliefs over the lives of others. Starlord, ironically, is the only person in the movie to make a sacrifice out of genuine love, instructed by Gamora to kill her and held to his word on behalf of his own deceased mother, and he and Gamora were the only ones who weren’t allowed to make it. Thanos stole that sacrifice from the both of them. If they had been able to fulfill it, Thanos wouldn’t have been able to win. He would’ve had nothing to ‘sacrifice’. It’s easy to see why Peter snapped when he learned Thanos killed her. Thanos stole Gamora’s sacrifice, stripped her of all agency, and used his own sense of purpose to justify it. Starlord’s even seen a woman he loves get treated this way before when he learned Ego the Living Planet put the tumor in his mother’s head so as to not keep himself emotionally tethered to Earth. It would seem the Cosmic Entities in the Marvel Universe are very keen on killing people they claim to love in the name of furthering their own ends. It’s the gravest insult imaginable and it pisses me off even thinking about it.
But... trading lives doesn't work. They still failed. They destroyed Vision but Thanos still got to the mind stone. On that thought. Time was the only thing that completely obliterated Cap's plan. They always intended to destroy the stone but not until they could have Vision maintain his consciousness without it, which was established as possible, simple even. They simply ran out of time. It's also the time stone that allows Thanos to recover the smashed mind stone. I find that it would also be interesting to see which characters manage to get Thanos' respect during the film and compare them to those who don't to get an even better idea of what he values.
@@davidwillcocks808 vision died too late. Same with peter and gamora. Had he fired immediately he would have killed him. Also, gamora didnt kill herself right away knowing she is the one that can end it right then and there. Also, Thor didnt go for a killing blow, he went to mock him. All avengers made mistakes in crucial moments, thanos is the only one who did what he had to when he had to
UltimateKyuubiFox but Starlords noble choice is most likely, probably is, the reason Thanos won. They were so close to beating him bit Starlords emotions got the best of him in that moment and it cost literally have of the universe
I have only seen such a scene twice, I admired that scene so much, and I instantly remembered the scene where Madara gets sucked into kaguya and in a moment of realizing that he’s failed he silently thinks to himself “where have I gone wrong”, and I think when Thanos just calmly sits down and stare while slowly fading I could just see him thinking the same words “ where have I gone wrong “ and it hits, after all, the Thanos that’d lost and faded in the end of endgame isn’t the same Thanos that Thor chopped his head off, the Thanos that won in the end of infinity war, or did he? Madara is a villain with the same god complex as Thanos from Naruto shippuden, a Japanese animation.
The guy tortured his daughter in front of his other daughter to get the LOCATION of the Soul stone and then killed his own daughter to get it. Also he halved ALL life including, animals, MICROORGANISMS, and PLANTS, yknow, FOOD AND RAW MATERIALS?!?!? His choice to snap half of ALL life instead of sentient life is a REALLY big oversight and makes no damn sense. TL;DR Watch this ua-cam.com/video/Y4XgpB7WbYY/v-deo.html
Lemmon Boy ok but do you really care about all of those microorganisms that died? Plus Thanos could get rid of corona so idc what you have to say but that alone makes him likeable
Proskilzz Google what the largest producer of oxygen on Earth is (Also him removing a virus that kills hundreds of thousands when him halving food will cause MILLIONS to die from famine on Earth ALONE is still a shitty and short sighted thing to do)
Thanos was a refreshing take on the bad guy for the MCU and IW was a refreshing marvel movie. It was the first MCU that had actually pulled me in fully since Cap Winter Soldier, and the story itself actually got an emotional response from me where no MCU had managed to before. Thanos the Mad Titan succeeded in becoming memorable along side the other great villains of movies. Great video man! I had never heard of you before this, cant wait to see what else you have.
He was exactly what humanity actually needed. Dude didn't have a vendetta with anyone or age old bitter rivalry. He simply believed what he was doing was right. Fix the problem in a way no one else had the balls to, and then go about his own business.
That was Thanos’ movie. He was the protagonist and he defied all our expectations and outsmarted Earth’s mightiest heroes. None of us expected him to be such a deep and complicated character. Definitely the best villain.
Alyssa Popov • Tʜᴇ Lᴏɴᴇ Sᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴏʀ Yes he is. Just like Killmonger. Having a reason doesn’t justify your atrocities. Especially when your reasoning is so substantially and scientifically flawed, as is the case with Thanos. Killmonger had more legitimate criticism than Thanos and even he was a villain because of his tactics, so Thanos is not exempt at all.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox didnt the avengers lead to deaths in cities cause of their reckless battles? Gonna act like Thor and his asgardians are not villains even though they wiped out Loki's race? There are no heroes or villains just sides with different ideas and methods to reach their goals
@@Silverman216nah the heroes try to protect the city and people died as collateral. Thanos and his stupidity thinks killing half the universe is the answer when people will just repopulate in more number s
I just love how different this Thanos is. All those words describe him so well and the fact he is the one with the will to act on things even if he knows he'll lose someone. That sense of pride and vulnerability are what I want in a great villain
It's not that He needed gamora to retrieve the soul stone He knew by gamora's sister that gamora discovered where the stone is Thanos never disapproved quill He actually was amaze by peter's loyalty as peter kept his word Thus thanos was impressed
If the sacrifice wasn't required, I'd imagine the following scene would go something like this: Thanos teleports back to Quill and throws Gamora to him "Keep her safe..." Quill lashes out at him to try and kill him "YOU SON OF A-!" He yells as Thanos promptly kicks him back with a mild blow from the power stone "...and don't get in my way." Finished Thanos as he teleports away.
This proves that it goes beyond saying Thanos is the best MCU villain, you can now say he's one of the most complex and fascinating villains in all of cinema. I'm amazed you could list his qualities into just one video.
The thing is. If they replaced strange with Thanos, there's a very high chance that he wont stop at only 14 million. Guy is willing to fight the entire universe, nobody has as much willpower as him.
hi Houston! love your videos. I have complicated feelings about that movies with mikey video because I don't entirely disagree with him. I would love to hear your feelings on it
@@SUCSC that video was just weird. I haven't seen any of his other videos and I understand that a lot of people like his channel but to me it just seems like he ranted about not liking it because of the darker tone that the mcu took with this movie (never mind that the comics it's based off is way darker), references something about him having a bad year like the movie was having a go at him personally and goes on about the relationship between Thanos and Gamora like he is the first person to notice it might not be 100% healthy.
@@somethinglikethat2176 You should check out his other videos, he is fantastic. I understand how he feels about Thanos but ultimately still love the character and movie
"We see Thanos call his cleansing merciful, yet we see a child panic in fear as they violently cling to existence."
This hurts
to be fair, not everyone has spider senses. if we did, then i would have never been caught masturbating.
@@alphariusomegon8507 Noted.
Mr stark
Angelo sky wtf
@@alphariusomegon8507 I wish I had spider senses
So he is reasoning like a dictator then
Thanos: "I like him"
*disappears*
*comes back*
Thanos: "No Homo"
LOL. I hadn't seen this type of comment in a while.
Bro made me lmfao
I’ve seen the video/Meme
Lmao best comment
You just stole it from another video lol
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He won millions of times.. but Avengers won only once..
Eby George facts
In that one time he only lost because iron man tricked the most brilliant tactician in the mcu. He wasn't beaten by any means when it comes to power
And idk if that consider winning.. Since thanos already won in the end of Infinity war and the snap already happen and everyone have receive the after math of the snap..
That was possible futures but none of them happened
@@rorygamble8599 those possible futures could have happened in alternate realities...So *1 : 14,000,604* it is
“Deserves to win” my man already Won 14 million times
well he didn't actually win 14 million times, he just had the odds of 14million : 1 which frankly doesn't matter cos we know they will win anyway
@@khattab5351 he won 14 million times in alternative realities, say different parallel universes, but Avengers only made it once, and we are shown that universe, so he had the ultimate probability
I feel so sad for him, he lost everything he had just to achieve his ambition. He worked selflessly for it. Some people say it's wrong and some say it's right, but what matters is his dedication towards his goal and how focused he is no matter what, i love that and i think everyone should learn that quality in life, including me.
@@DetectivThomas
that's not how the time stone works, it shows you different future that may or may not happen, it doesn't show you other parallel universes, it's called TIME stone, not parallel universes stone, he didn't win 14 million times, he just had the odds of 14 million:1 to win, which honestly is a huge exaggeration, the avengers had it in the pocket, there is no way they had that slim of a chance to win
I don’t know about that homie.
1. tried the hardest
2. willing to break himself
3. aware of his flaws
4. didnt wear a mask
5. didnt rest on hope
6. didnt put trust in anyone other than himself
5 and 6 shows his greatest flaws, and his ego thinking his way was the only possible path.
@@furycarnategaming for me they are more strengths than weaknesses you shouldn’t hope for a savior if you can find one or find something for you to hope for that’s good but you should try to do it yourself and yeah you should have people that you can trust around you but also be vigilant so you can be be prepared for betrayal
He didnt seem to be aware of thye flaws in his plan
Yeah he tried hard. That means he deserved to get to massacre quadrillions.
@@nerdynobody1721 creating more resource won't solve the problem greedy living things is the only one that will benefit from it
"We see Thanos call his cleansing merciful, yet we see a child panic in fear as they violently hold on to life." Damn didn't know it was that type of day again
@@-juju3026 Calm down there Jaqqen H'gar
@@Testingthisname Actually, I'd say they are, but they don't feel pain, at least. That is the best and most merciful way to die, far better than everything else it has to offer.
In next year’s Snyder Cut of Justice League, Darkseid will make Thanos look like child’s play.
@@TheVladMan. so what you are just as irrelevant as that shit
Fun isn't something one considers when watching youtube videos, but this.. does put a smile on my face
Morgz: If you're making UA-cam videos I do have some experience in that arena!
iNabber: If you consider failure experience.
This comment’s ironic is perfectly balanced, as all things should
ermm...I am Groot?
You don't consider UA-cam fun?
@@NabilMyron
I am venseyness.
Thanos is frighteningly relatable..we all believe what we do is right. Infinity war made me step away unknowing how to feel. All we do know is Thanos wanted it the most.
I still think that Thanos should’ve won, he’s like endeavor but looks towards the greater good, he has sacrificed more than the avengers can imagine, he was the embodiment of the quote “he’s out of line but he has a point”
Well at least he died swiftly thanks to Thor, and also knowing he won, that he did it.
"Everyone is the hero of your own story"
Thanos: I have infinite cosmic power... Imma kill half the ppl in the universe.
Everyone else: But... u could double resources and itd have the same effect. Or like... Make all life survive by photosynthesis?
Thanos: NOPE... murder is the only answer
Thanos was beyond wrong... you people need critical thinking skills
@@WinglessAngelic I never thought about this either tbh.
Did... did you actually color code each section like they were Infinity Stones..? Dude. And it looks like they're in the order Thanos acquires them. Duuude. A1 attention to detail.
Dirk Loyd that and he didnt want copyright
@@connerhagerman2470 yeah, that too.
Bruh I thought my screen was broken
Yes very hard adding color correction duuuuuuuuuuude
Underrated comment.
Thanos had the conviction.
Coulson: You're gonna lose.
Loki: Am I?
Coulson: It's in your nature.
Loki: Your heroes are scattered, your floating fortress falls from the sky... where is my disadvantage?
Coulson: You lack conviction.
Brilliant. Wish I had thought of that.
I didn’t thought that, so true
which is I think the sum total of this video. It's not that Thanos is right or good...
The funny thing is, in the original comic, Thanos lost because of his lack of conviction. Adam Warlock's whole plan against him (as far as I recall) was based on having some insight into Thanos' mind and knowing that he would have to lose because deep in his psyche he is a big loser who will always self-sabotage and is destined to fail.
First conviction doesnt make any sense isnt conviction mean like some one who is in prison?
You got to remember the avengers only won once out of 14 million different outcomes.
@Categórico Just because the movie tells you that it makes sense does mean it actually makes sense. A lot of people are annoyed at the fact that Dr. Strange's master plan relied on a random rat walking over an ipad, but I think that it's worse than this. The entire plan relies on Scott going to the avengers with the idea/tech and Tony figuring out how it would work right? Well what if Tony and Scott died in the snap? If either one had died in the snap, Endgame couldn't happen and Dr. Strange's plan would have failed. And theres no way he could know who would get snapped or not since it's completely random, so he gave Thanos the time stone, hoping that the right people would survive the snap and that the random rat would trigger the van.
Also, Tony didn't rely on that until the end of his life. He clearly gave up on Strange's plan for 5 years while he abandoned the avengers and went to live in a cabin in the woods. He only restarted believing in the plan once he figured out the time travel.
In many many ways Endgame made Infinity War worse. This is a prime example
@Categórico I guess I misunderstood your point because we interpreted Strange's line differently. The way I understood his whole "I looked at 14 million different future timelines and only in one of them did we win" is that in that timeline, he literally saw Endgame play out where Scott and Tony survive the snap and the rat gets him out of the van, etc. So I thought that Strange thought that if he gave the time stone up, Thanos would do the snap and set up the avengers perfectly for Endgame, but my problem was that there was no way to predict who would survive the snap.
The reason I say Infinity War is worse because of Endgame in this case is that I assumed that Strange's 1 in 14 million wasn't reliant upon complete chance, and that predictable actions would lead to that 1 if he gave up the time stone.
The rat is fine...i guess...I do find it overly convenient. I think it would have been far better to have some looter break into the storage facility and mess with the tablet, therefor bringing Scott back. But it's a very minor issue in a very flawed movie.
Absolutely agreed with Thanos plan in IW. Malthusian theory was debunked long ago and his culling of the universe would have a less than negligible affect on the progress of history as a whole. Before Endgame, the only way I could come up with a reasonable explanation for his plan is that he arbitrarily can't create new resources for the universe and that he is planning to cull the universe by half every million years or so FOREVER in order to have any actual impact at all. Another way that Endgame makes IW worse is that it reveals that Thanos was only going to cull the universe once then destroy the stones and he could have created new resources instead of killing anyone in the first place turning his whole plan into some random immature outburst of genocide for literally no reason in the face of a peaceful and logical alternative solution.
I also enjoyed the movie, for what it was. I think that Endgame is a 5 at best and IW was around a 7 at the time and a 6 now. These are actually pretty good scores for Marvel movies for me as I only actively love two or three of them and dislike most of the rest of them.
acktually aintaddingup it was not
From Tony’s view
Plus, Doctor Strange is most likely stretching the truth. Think about it, this is all different possible outcomes. Only 14 million? What seems like a very low number when compared to infinite possibilities. There must’ve been some other outcomes where Thanos was defeated. Remember, this is infinite other outcomes. For all we know, there could be a possibility were Thanos realizes that he just killed the producers of Shrek 5 before it came out!
I feel like I'm the only one in my group of friends that was sad when he didn't eat his soup. He was just making food and then he got jumped by everyone.
I hate Thanos' guts but damn it. They didn't let the man eat his soup and that ain't right to me >:(
I felt the same 🙁
avengers are idiots
Can't lie, I never thought of that and when I read this I laughed. Too real!
I know we have to avenge all the people he killed, but first just let the man finish his soup
Thanos Deserved to Win
An Oscar For Best Visual Effects.
Yeah, but thanos was purple not black so it wasn't diverse enough.
noob saibot
I bet the racist bastard man spreads to
They had us in the first half not gonna lie
I feel that First Man wasn't undeserving of that Oscar either. The visual effects in that movie were astonishing as well, it was really hard to tell what was practical and what was CGI.
I know why he didn't win he killed grout!
Honestly Thanos isn’t just one of my favorite villains in the MCU, he’s one of my favorite characters. Appearance, powers, motivations, personality, all of it.
cause he represents the Almighty
Motivations for making deadpool immortal :/
@@SEFIKURAGAL His deep voice... God damn...
Me too sometimes I want to destroy half of all creatures in the universe.
Thanos is my favorite villain because of all that. He may be an evil man, and he even acknowledges that his actions are brutal, but at the end of the day he thinks what he does is right. Plus Thanos is strangely honest for a villain. Even Darth Vader is a liar, though not to the extent of Darth Sidious. Also he’s just a bad-ass in general, haha. I love his design too, especially the variation of colors. It’s the same reason why the Joker has a great design.
"The kind of evil that doesn't realize that it's evil, is the worst kind of evil there is"
-Wes Bluemarine
And before you ask, yes, this is a Jojo reference
Thanos does know that what he's doing is Evil, but it is good and merciful in the long run.
@@TheJallumn No, it's not. Only an idiot with a messed up moral compass would claim such a thing.
@@ralyman2 Did you watch the movie? Thanos had experienced the struggles of over population firsthand with his people which is why he goes and does the things he does in the movie. It's pretty clear he knows that being the cause of death for half of the fucking universe is evil, but he still does it to prevent the people from experiencing the same thing he did.
Most of the people are good and sometimes do something they know is bad.
Some people are bad and struggle everyday to control it.
Others don't give a single damn as long as they are not caught.
But evil is a completely different creature, evil is bad that believes it's good.
Thanos lost literally everything for his goals. The black order, nebula left him, he sacrificed Gamora, and lost a great deal of his army
And his homeworld
His loses should have told him his path was the wrong one.
@@medic5258 Understand your point but this would make him an hypocrite. He had the right idea but the WRONG execution. He took innocent people lives away and even though people say he “should’ve won” doesn’t make him any better because he should’ve died with them. He caused destruction continuously as well and he’s not perfect either and has sins just like everyone else so him trying to excuse his actions by saying it’s something good wasn’t okay.
@@medic5258 Like I said before his idea was good but the way he planned it was stupid or on MCU’s part. There was no “what’s next” because even though he wiped out half, the population can still grow even more and fertility rated are the reason population is so high. Maybe if he dug deeper, he could’ve find an actual way to solve his problem without people getting hurt.
@@medic5258 he did all of that for a temporary solution. Cutting the population of the Universe in half... Growth rates would bring it back in time, consumption of resources would continue...
He would have been better served trying to create some revolutionary technology, or agricultural improvements to minimize the needed resources.
And thats why he wins. Because he was ready to sacrifice everything for his goal. Perfectly said man.
thank you Mr Murdoch
The Devil we miss you Matt.
I hope the DAREdevil series returns to Netflix or continues on Disney Plus
But he still fails
Would he have won if he didn't have super powers. Second of all if you sacrifice everything for you goal then WTH do you deserve to win? You don't actually win you lose in the end. All The Averagers lost including Thanos.
"Yet we see a child panic in fear as they violently cling to existence." Wow
Turn that one around, if you can. Thanos is the last of his people, the only survivor of a failed race.
A man without family or home; a foreigner everywhere, even on Titan, where his most dominant memory is his own failure. And like Titan, ruins are all that remains of his people.
You probably can't imagine, but try anyway. Would you wish this fate onto anyone? To have nothing left of your home, your family, your culture, even your planet; nothing excepts for ruins and dust. Like a man who lived in Pompeii in 70 AD and returned home to find nothing but molten rock where once there was his home, his world.
Yes, children die. Children died on Titan, panicking in fear as they violently clinged to existence and were ripped from their mothers arms in death. There are no heroes, only villains with improper story telling.
Struck me 3 thousand
@@sorrowandsufferin924 a very eloquent endorsement of a sick person. Thanos vision/mission while understandable given his experience is deeply flawed and pretty easy to poke holes in.
@@ShawDAMAN As that of the Avengers as well. All a matter of perspective, nothing more, nothing less
@@sorrowandsufferin924 flawed yes, but some perspectives are simply wrong. I don't subscribe to moral relativism
Technically he did win like 14 million times only lost in one reality.
And technically they only defeat a clone of Thanos. Tho the original dies and is resurrected more times than Tony Stark.
dude if starlord wasn’t punching him while he was in mind control and if thor aimed for the head ez win
I never quite understood why Dr strange didn't open a portal below his feet then close it as he's half way thru falling. They established what happens with Cull Obsidian's unbreakable skin. Hot knife through butter.
He didnt win 14 million times. He only won 14 million times from that key point in the timeline where Strange says so. So that point was the point which made the difference where he lost the one reality based on how Strange set it up since he saw that, that was the point where it became just one possibility which strange set up. Strange just went through 14 million possible options.
@JT Starshit killed everyone by being an idiot while the others actually tried to stop Thanos.
Thanos was just being farmer and then they cut off his head, that was kinda mean.
Maybe cus a lot of the ppl they love were gone? 😂
Truue
he did say you should’ve went for the head. kinda asked for it.
But remember that he killed thor's brother and his best friend in front of him. The murder was justified. For everyone else, loved ones turned to dust but thor witnessed the people he loved get stabbed or strangled to death and thrown away like garbage. Thanos had it coming.
🤣🤣🤣 like the fight was over
9:06
“His vulnerability and determination are perfectly balanced”
-“As all things should be.”
I don’t get it, could you explain what this means in depth?
@@Iskandarthepanda it's just a play of words :))
@@Iskandarthepanda means he's well balanced like it says goof
@@Iskandarthepanda it's a reference to a meme from the movie.
By any chance can someone tell me what the background music is
Thanos: I am Inevitable
Tony: I am Iron Man
Yundo: I’m Mary Poppins Y’all
Yundo would’ve incinerated Thanos.
tf u mean yundo its yondu lmao
It’s Yundo now b
Rat: I am the saver of the universe
This deserve more likes
In my opinion Thanos was the best part of Infinity War, he really stole the show and it was more a film about him and his journey to collect the infinity stones and restore the balance as opposed to focussing on the avengers. He was a very compelling villain through his cunning, determination and relatable character traits. He is without a doubt the best villain in the MCU!
This isn't an opinion.
This is an absolute fact.
Samuel Varvodic he’s not a villain. All he ever wanted was everyone to be equal and have the same opportunity
The truth is THANOS did WIN. What he really wanted to do was to be with 💀 DEATH because he loves HER. If you read the comic books he was courting DEATH. 💙
Thanos is the greatest character, along with Cap, in the MCU, regardless of villain or hero status.
Then they completely ruined him in Endgame...
Let’s not forget that the snap was completely random. Thor literally dug an axe into Thanos’s chest and still wasn’t included in the snap.
That's how he wanted it hid original plan was explained on Titan to genocide in a unbias way rich and poor healthy and sick doesn't matter who as long as half is gone. I'm sure he'd have control over who dies if he wants to a certain extent and because of that he chose random genocide just like he originally planned. It's him thinking it's fair.
Apparently he spared a few characters. He got the space from Loki by torturing Thor, the soul stone's location from Gamora by doing the same to Nebula and the time stone in exchange for Tony's life. Apparently that's why them three survived.
@@reenokop”apparently”… bro you say this statement as if it’s lore accurate. You can find shit ton of coincidences like these but that’s what he meant by random! IT IS RANDOM!
Could Thanos have died from the snap? If it were completely random, would he have believed in his philosophy enough to put himself into the equation?
@@Reginald425Would’ve been hilarious if someone sabotaged Thanos’s gauntlet and he just ended up snapping himself away.
“Okoye and the wakandans lose their king” hits different now.
@@tateullock7236 💀
@@tateullock7236 Devil
@@tateullock7236 please bro . have you heard about the actor's death? please dont take his death as a joke
Lmao
@@tateullock7236 who fucking liked this
People love him because he isn’t a coward. He has an army and yet, still goes fight the avengers alone
Reign fire
But sir the troops
fuck the troops Reign fire mmm mot really a good leader
@@606danco fuck the Endgame
Alec Powers that was before Thanos lost Gamora. That Was the 2014 Thanos. 2018, 2023, and 2014 are all completely different Thanos’s. 2014 Thanos lived in vain and didn’t care about life. 2014 Thanos hadn’t experienced losing Gamora. Hence he doesn’t value life of others yet.
He's an idiot. Gratz boys, our strategist just charged onto the field and got ganked lol. 10/10 tactics
He had an army lol
Legend has it that if he clapped, he could've doubled the resources
*thanos sees a good clapworthy thing and starts clapping* thanos: oops
Unfortunately neither the clap nor the snap actually fix anything for too long. A very intelligent man called Thomas Malthus described it: Resources in general tend to grow arithmetically (meaning they pile up at the same rate every generation), while populations grow geometrically (meaning every generation grows more than the one before), when the resources are available. Resource scarcity and competition is the only known way for life to balance this out on its own.
@@apopompi The biggest criticism of Malthusian theory, which explained why his predictions failed, was that he failed to account for the fact that a certain fraction of the population also becomes producers. So, an exponential growth can lead to an almost equivalent growth in resources (more production, more technological advancement, more productivity etc.).
double ressource will still lead the same end...just more and more people until the climax and in the end just more(double ) will go extict
Best way is to make a third of the population in all species sterile and make it a gene that passes down from generation to generation (basically Dan Brown's Inferno). That will keep the growth under control
Admit it boys, we're all kinda getting bored of seeing villains lose. Cartoon villains are too slow with their final task, or are stupid. Movie villains are just bruh
I’m for villains winning rarely, but the writing and character has to be done good, on par or better than thanos.
@@butterfinger28 thats not a hard bar to hit. his entire character falls apart for me due to the inherent stupidity of his big evil plan.
He was better as an insane stalker/worshiper simping after Lady Death.
Not some ecoterrorist bent on enacting a plan that wont actually work, the flaws of which can easily be figured out with a mere fractio of the brainpower of Thanos himself.
you would like garou from one punch man
If they made more villain plots smaller scale and more personal there could be more villain wins but as it stands most of the time the villain winning means the entire planet or galaxy is gonna 'splode or something. But if the villain winning meant maybe only a country or a state or something gets nuked, that could happen a lot more. Invincible Comic spoiler but one of the 'villains' actually nukes Las Vegas into literal glass and essentially 'won' as an example since hey, that was the goalpost instead of the entire world lol.
@@codyj6505 Lol true, Joker hit's hard for a villain story. And it's better if the entire universe isn't annihilated since it leaves everything hanging in the fact everyone's dead nothing left.
But if a city, state, country or even one guy is erased then I'm more fine with that tbh.
I've probably spent more time watching videos about marvel movies than watching marvel movies
Hallmarks of a great series
Mr CIA Boss Man honestly, I've only seen The Avenger, Age of Ultron, Civil War, Black Panther, and Spider-Man Homecoming as well as Agents of Shield, but I've learned everything about the Iron Man and Captain America movies
@@daniellike5pie777 Did you watch Infinity War?
Sounds like me
That’s alright what are your top 5 favorite marvel movies
Love how you put the colors of the Infinity Stones in this video! When each topic starts... the color changes...
thank you :)
Also chronologicly how he collects them :D
It was an obnoxious gimmick. The attributes were as nonsensically divided and overlapping as the infinity stones themselves.
There's a huge market for verisimilitude of profundity, that's for sure.
I noticed that too! Very well done!
Also prevents copyright :p
“to feel so desperately that you’re right, yet to fail nonetheless”
Applies to Thanos himself in Endgame.
In Endgame, Thanos felt so desperately that he was right, yet he failed all the same.
"And where did that lead to? Back to me."
And thanos only failed because the Avengers raped the fabric of time and space
@@ivanmegafanboy1981 lol
This weirdly gave me motivation.
Sameee.ahahahaha. and then i was like bruh wtf he is a maniac stop being motivated.
Well you're kinda lucky
There are no avengers in real life😁
>:D
Kill everybody
I got so motivated at 3 am that I don't even know what to do
"NOW I'M MOTIVATED!!!"
Spoilers
My only real complaint with endgame is there wasn’t enough Thanos
It was not about him. Thanos punched Avengers, he showed his greatness, now Endgame was about avenger's turn, now they have to show what they can do
Infinity war was all about him. That's Thanos's movie. Endgame is all about the avengers on how they can stop someone that had totally beaten them senseless
@@SethKolbePrefect That's why he had to die *twice in the same movie* 1st for revenge for him winning in infinity war and 2nd to stop him from winning again but more escalated since he's fighting seriously this time.
I wish he comes back again in the future MCU movies.. I miss his hard hitting dialogues.Every dialogue out of his mouth sounded epic.
@@Random_Travelling he will probably return someday, he is the best character in the mcu, i wanted to thanos snapped, stay done, not reversing anything, he is right, in 100%
Smarter than Stark stronger than Thor and more honest than Cap... No wonder he won.
@le Hoarderz Al-Shekelsteins so smart that he was smitten. Thus smarten
Μαργαρίτα Κ And they also were too fragile and lacked common sense throughout the film.
Not smart as Strange lmao
Well not to those dwarves not so honest there
@@connorbarry3477 yeah that part sounded out of character to me
And yet Suicide Squad won an Oscar and Infinity Wars didn't.
Oscars are rigged garbage.
This is some massive bullshit
Oscar's mean nothing it all in the money people use to advertise
@@sheerpoint4251 Indeed, I never cared about it and it's popularity and relevance is declining.
wait what? really? what the fuck? ahhhhmmmmm i guess i really didnt care about it the last years, what the fuck suicide squad was SO BAD xD lmao
"Thanos was right"
- My Gym teacher, 2017.
Your gym teacher time traveled
12:25
I think I know that quote there
"The death of one is a tragedy, the death of millions is just a statistic" - Joseph Stalin
Gamora's death is a tragedy
Half the universe dying is just a number
SCP- 2661 Thanos is Stalin confirmed
1/2
I would agree, if not for the care taken in showing members of that half the universe as well. "I don't feel so good, Mr. Stark." Half the universe being gone was, at least for me, devastating compared to Gamora's death. This particular situation subverts that generally true quote.
@@SquallLionhart409 For you maybe, I didn't care. Thanos had me rooting for him. So the quote still applies.
@@RilfDanielson The quote doesn't apply to how the film is shot. The reason for that quote is that a single death is a "hot" example, where the person has a name, has a mother, etc. The point is that you empathize with the individual compared to the millions being a "cold" example. The "cold" example being a large group of nameless and faceless people, where even if you throw the names on screen, they all blur together preventing that personal emotional connection. The movie was shot in a way to give you a "hot" reaction to Gamora's death and a "hot" reaction to half the universe being gone. It wants to pull at your heartstrings in BOTH cases, not just in Gamora's.
YOU can of course feel any way you want, but the movie itself is trying to get you to feel a different way.
(An interesting Hot/Cold discussion point is looking at the morality of the following situations; a train is out of control going down a track and will certainly crash and kill 15 people down the line, but you can flip a switch to change the track. Changing the track will cause one person to die that would have normally survived. This is a cold situation where you can just weigh 15 lives against one. The hot version is the same set-up, but instead of a switch, there's a really fat guy you could push on to the track that will derail the train and save the 15. Mathematically, its sacrificing one for 15 in either case, but humans generally will have a larger problem pushing someone to their death than flipping a switch that will kill.)
For anyone who has ever complained about Cap holding back Thano's hand, they need to be shown this video and maybe help them understand it was Thanos holding back. This was just a magnificent character study, keep up the awesome work!
Thank you Marc!
When thanos pinched captain America in the face, he should’ve died. Remember at the start when thanos overpowered hulk with one stone, well thanos punches cap with 4 stones and he didn’t even show any sig of pain or bloodshed
@@legendary3952
1) He's not using the stones against Hulk or Cap. The gauntlet in the MCU is not passive.
2) He's always holding back against humans, while Hulk is someone near his level, and even then he doesn't try that hard to wreck his ass with no stones
@@legendary3952 Yeah man, Thanos is about making everyone see the world through his eyes, so he's not trying to close as many eyes as he can. He's surprisingly controlled.
3) Thor is a not human.
Thanos: I am inevitable
Iron Man: I am iron Man
Vader: I am your father
Armani Webb Yes
Groot: I am Groot
I like trains!
Vision : I am
@@joshuahughes5647 i cant see what you did there
Thor and Thanos are the most tragic characters of MCU who lost everything people talk about Ironman and captain America yes tony sacrificed himself but he knew his wife and daughter are safe when he died Steve went to live with love of his life but Thor lost his father, mother, brother, home,his whole planet , half of his people, his eye , hammer, hair, I think he even lost himself in endgame
he lost so much that maybe I'm forgetting somethings
Heimdal
Scarlett Witch has had more tragedy happen to her
Wolverine enters the chat
@tired af stfu fucking dweeb
@@MessiKill10 nah
Hey, Thanos has 6 traits and 6 infinity stones.
Cool Coincidence.
or maybe I planned it 0_o ooooooooh
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Hey, he probably has more than just 6. Woahhhhh
He has more than 6 traits.
I feel they had a good balance with Thanos in that he's a very powerful and dangerous character, but without feeling so overpowered you assume the Avengers don't stand a chance. Like's he's an 8feet tall imposing purple giant, but he's not quite on the level of certain 'cosmic' characters we've seen in the MCU like Ego or Dormammu or Surtur. Its that combination of power combined with willpower that makes him such a great villain.
He's depicted as powerful but also smart. There are times where he is out gunned, such as by Scarlet witch and Captain Marvel. But he comes out on top, because he out thinks them.
Who wins: thanos with 5 infinity stones of his choice, or every marvel hero all at once, without any of the major disadvantages they had in infinity war?
@@minecrafter3448 i think he still beats most of them, but I’m using comic thanos as a guide if anything the marvel heroes will just get up again after losing at first and beat him
To be honest, I like Infinity war more than Endgame
same, this thanos feels far more intimidating and fierce than the one in endgame
Endgame Thanos becomes too 1 dimensional in the end.
Same
Well end game is basically part 2 to infinity war for the final part of the third Avenger movie but, rather than a part 1/2 title like Harry Potter, Hunger Games, etc... they just titled it different cause you can’t have a 5 hour plus movie but, what I’m saying is endgame is infinity war continued half so essentially you prefer the beginning half of the movie...?
@@CallumsVNETWoRK It was originally intended to be part 1 and 2, but they changed that. They are two seperate movies now buddy. Infinity war is one movie and endgame is another. Yes Infinity War was better than Endgame. Simple as that
Unironically one of the best Video Essays I have seen. Your arguments are expertly crafted, perfectly phrased and well-structured. Thank you for this exemplary Character Analysis.
Wow, thank you!
Thanos himself should've died with the SNAP. That would be the perfect ending for his character, it would show how much he was prepared to sacrifice. Plus it would mean remaining Avengers bringing back the lost ones also bringing Thanos back.
You definitely miss the point. He's not selfless. It's all an act. He doesn't help the universe, not does he intend to. He just wants his cult to help him on his power trip. And this makes him a more interesting villain than you give him credit for.
@@silkworm2595 you don't even have a point
@@sk8erbyern The point is that Thanos killing himself/including himself in the snap would be out of character. He presents the fisaad of selflessness to his cult. It's not personal to them, so the shared responsibility makes sense to them. The Infinity Gauntlet should be able to do anything, but instead he does the bare minimum to fulfil a power trip.
He doesn't truly believe what he is doing will benefit the universe. The Russos confirmed that he is a sociopath. He's doing to the whole universe what he wanted to do with Titan. It's a power trip. The villain is deceptive.
People buying the Thanos he sells are part of the message. The cultural impact affirms the film's comment about how dictators are manipulative. The charisma along with the absolute conviction can do something as insane as convince perfectly sane people that something with the power to do anything can be wielded by a man with good intentions who uses it only to cause mass genocide. When his real motive is laid out so plain, people believe in him.
That's why Thanos is so scary. The villains that get under our skin expose something about us. r/Thanosdidnothingwrong is more shocking than "I am your Father" because it's among us. Tangible.
A change I would make to Endgame would be that Thanos uses the time stone to bring back Titan, only for him to prove them right and force the people to acknowledge that. Or anything to reveal his true motives in IW.
No he did kinda die in the snap but the sole stone pulled him into its dimension and let him see gamora again lol
"How Could Thanos Be Sure His Plan Wouldn't Have Killed Him?
Thanos' ultimate plan to bring balance to the universe is simple. By killing half of the universe's living population, he reasons that he can avert resource shortages that, if left unchecked, would lead to the collapse of life on various planets.
But when asked how it is that Thanos could be certain that he himself wouldn't be one of the randomly selected people who were atomised at the end of the movie, Russo hinted that the Titan might not have actually been fully in control of the process:
You can ask if he allowed himself to be apart of that random process. He does have a very interesting look on his face. When we come back to him after the snap before he disappears, a look of surprise."
Source:
www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/05/report-joe-russo-gave-the-infinity-war-answers-youve-been-waiting-for-to-a-bunch-of-teens/amp
I honestly hope Thanos remains undefeated, and rather than being killed, he gets talked into doing the right thing.
It would really break the mold of heroes always win in the traditional sense
this is how it might end up
people run on ideas
show them whats wrong with the idea by addressing the one motivating factor they have
show them examples using analogy
first write a story on every single flaw and examples for the arguments
then address him
Thanos would never turn good XD
@@stoffe010 There was a story in which Thanos erased the universe, then realized how wrong he was. He restored the universe and chose to erase himself.
I know but do you really think he would change now? He lost everything to get to this point, he can't turn back now and he knows it... My theori is that hulk will come back and finish off thanos to end the story like how it began (With thanos fighting hulk) and it would also be cool to see hulk using the power stone in some way maybe. World breaker hulk in A4?!
Great video, but I would also add that another reason Thanos is the perfect antagonist for the Avengers is that unlike them he has both power AND control.
So many of the Avengers are massively powerful yet lack control over themselves; Stark can't control his ego at the best of times, (and completely loses his mind in Civil War,) Black Panther is introduced letting vengeance consume him, Thor is introduced as a spoiled child, Cap does stupid and reckless things for his friends, Spider-man is young and inexperienced etc. In Infinity War, both Quill and Thor screw everything because they let their desire to hurt Thanos overrule their common sense, while Thanos never loses sight of his goal. Even when he realises he has to kill Gamora, his reaction is grief rather than turmoil, because to him she's already dead; there's not really any question in his mind whether or not he has the commitment and willpower to do it. Consequently, throughout the film he has the classical hero's peacefulness, because he's not conflicted in any way, unlike the Avengers who constantly second-guess themselves.
This also shows when he goes from speaking softly to openly roaring and relishing a chance to indulge his bloodlust in combat; it's not the uncontrolled mood swing of the lunatic, nor the Wolverine-style struggle to tame the inner beast. He has no self-deception or inner conflict, and can bring everything he has and everything he IS to the fight, knowing exactly when to whisper and when to snarl, and can use every facet of himself effortlessly and efficiently.
This combination of power and control is also perfectly communicated physically, not just the skillful way he beats the Hulk, but everything about his body language. He's as heavily built as the Hulk, yet there's no brutishness to him; he stands perfectly upright and poised, moves with grace and without stomping, and uses his massive hands as precisely as someone human-sized. Normally you see big characters either being clumsy and breaking stuff by accident, or so careful not to that every movement is hesitant. Thanos is confident and decisive in every move, even when it requires both strength and precision simultaneously, like when he plucks the comparatively little stone out of Vision's head with fingers strong enough to crush his vibranium skull. If you saw the Hulk with the young Gamora, you'd worry he'd hurt her by accident, you know Thanos only crushes people when he wants to.
In the video you compared him to a hero and to a holy man, and I completely agree; the typical journey of the powerful but headstrong hero involves them learning control, calming their inner struggle in a Zen-like manner and dedicating themselves to an ideal rather than being dominated by their own desires. Thanos was already at that point before the film even started, and the plot of the film was just the climax of his personal epic story.
Of course all this is only possible thanks to the magnificent performance by Josh Brolin and the incredible CGI, so all credit to them as well as the writers and directors for making one of the most perfect villains ever put on the screen.
Amazing analysis
Stark has already mastered his ego by civil war tje only reason he went all out was because he literally was standing in the room with the same guy who shot his dam parents
Nice touch, shading each chapter with the hue of a different infinity stone. Great video.
Thank you very much!
This might be the most beautifully discussed Thanos Analysis video I've seen. To me he is the greatest villain of all time & this video backs it up perfectly
Thank you D'Challa. Wakanda Forever!
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Agreed.
no he is a moron - Now before i explain. IW is my 3rd fav MCU film, I think it's great - however There is a glaring issue with Thanos overall plan and motivation. this problem makes him a terrible villain. NOW HE IS COOL. but he can never be considered up there with Magneto or Zod or Vader etc. Cause his plan has fundamental flaw. Its a stupid plan for children who don't want to think or use their brains. Its a surface level plan that when you actually examine it - is moronic and achieves nothing.
Here is why killing half the Universe at random equally for every planet to bring Balance so that resources last for said planets IS COMPLETE NONSENSE
Ok firstly lets pretend the universe has 100 Billion Planets harbouring life. ok. just to put a number on it, could be less - most likely more. however lets simply work with that number.
ok so not all planets are the same age.
not all planets are at the same stage of evolution for it's life. example some planets will be over populated. most will be ideally populated and some will be completely under populated. such as Earth - NOT over populated, some planets will be like earth 50,000 years ago when we had to migrate from Africa due to Climates, and our populations were dangerously low. now if the human race lost half its population then - we would have gone extinct - not bringing balance or paradise but simply ending the RACE - so IT doesn't work. Laws of probability would dictate 200 million planets are over populated and htis measure would help. 200 million would be under populated and this measure would cause extinction, and 600 mill would be ideally populated and this measure would slow the development.
Now what is considered LIFE, is it only intelligent life. if so whats intelligent. would half of all dolphins die? why half of all the fish they eat would also die, and there for BOTH things would cancel each other out. no balance in that.
NOW biggest flaw of the whole plan is that it is simply a STOP GAP - yes, every planet thats over populated running out of resources. if the resources didn't also lose half their population. well this will help them. until they re populate. and then what - click your fingers again, and again and again - what the point on saving a universe in your own mind, if you simply have to kill half of it over and over? its not a plan that can work. as every time you destroy half you are doing it for the survival of 200 million planets but to the detriment of the other 200 million under populated planets and to the harm of the 600 million ideally populated planets. So it's not only pointless - its moronic. there are far more issues with it than this. but these are the obvious problems to a plan that simply achieves NOTHING
@@reddevilsunited7780 That's the point, Thanos is a Sociopath, he doesn't see any other option because he is batshit insane. Thanos's plan isn't meant to be a good plan or even really one that makes sense, but it's the plan of a genocidal mad man. Thanos saw something that made him think that in the end, the best solution to resource scarcity is to remove the strain on said resources by removing half the users of the resource. Is it a absolutely idiotic plan? Absolutely, but he believes his mission so completely that if you only look at it at face value it could make sense but it is ultimately it's just the desire of a genocidal mad man who simply wanted to kill half the universe.
He was so focused that he won million times than the avengers.
Those were possible futures, not actual realities, the Avengers only needed to win once and they won twice (killing 2018 Thanos and then 2014 Thanos)
@@alexnikos8961 I mean wasn't 2024 Thanos just sitting in his garden cultivating fruits?
@@thatspookagain4030 that was 2018 Thanos, not 2024, he never lived that long; but what I meant was that they won twice because they brought everyone back on their reality and then killed Thanos from another reality, so now there's 2 realities where Thanos loses (since by killing Thanos from 2014 they created a new reality without Thanos), and that's without counting the one where Caps goes to the past to live with Peggy
@@alexnikos8961 2018 Thanos achieved his goal, he won at the end of Infinity War. Killing him didn’t make him lose.
@@miningtrout2868 but bringing everyone back did make him lose, that's my point; they saved everyone on the original timeline, killed 2014 Thanos making a new timeline without him and then Captain America created another timeline after they defeated Thanos, so they won three times
The fact that he said he likes Peter Quill and doesn't kill him and he wholeheartedly respected Tony Stark and hopes that people will remember him, makes me respect Thanos a bit. The characteristics he admires in people are all very respectable traits. Unfortunately he's probably seen, witnessed, and experienced all kinds of hell and hardships, with him losing his home, to be this way. Ego from Guardians wanted to take over EVERYTHING AND EVERYWHERE. Atleast Thanos' intentions are to save the universe as a whole for the greater good. He just lacks compassion and doesn't sympathize people on a personal level with people having to deal with losing their friends and family.. mainly b/c he's already lost everyone on Titan, knows what it's like to prevent more suffering to others. I mean vanishing into dust in seconds seems like a painless way to go for alot of people who are actually suffering. Unfortunately, he's right, it IS mercy
He could have doubled the resources in the snap, or just kept people from being able to reproduce. His intention was the same but it was retribution for his past in the darkest way so that he could inflict the same "strength through suffering" he had endured. His psychosis prevented him from seeing a more gentle solution
"Yet we see a child panic in fear while he violently clings to existance ."
Jacob gm The thing is, reducing everything to half was much more possible since all he had to do was transfer them into another place. But if he doubled resources, it doesn’t just come out of nowhere. He’d still have to sacrifice something.
Totally agree. I feel like his intentions are good and well-founded. It's his execution of the solution that's a little sketchy but I kinda like him. I actually did a video on why I feel Thanos is the hero in Infinity War ua-cam.com/video/YOtiv9pePwQ/v-deo.html
No, he’s wrong. He’s spouting malthusian bullshit to justify himself
Endgame should have ended with thanos winning again. It would have been perfect to know that heroes don't always win. Then they could just reboot the mcu and include xmen
Well put
I like your input Thanos
That would be useless
Based
Isn’t that what infinity war is for lol
“Determination” was done very strongly. I felt goosebumps.
Nichole same!
Raja Raajan They did such a good job.
Nichole
Omg meee toooo! And when Gamora had just started to realize that THANOS’ tears were for her, and what He was about to do, I started bawling 😭 like a sobbing baby! Ughh and when He said “I’m sorry Little One” ughhh I tell you the tears were like floods!
Fine youtube, ill watch the damn video
Edit: thanks youtube, it was a good video
Child Gamora, “what did it cost you”? Thanos , “everything”. The best moment of the entire trilogy
What trilogy???
Nah
Yee
@@CorrectionUnknown avengers trilogy which is now a quadrilogy because of endgame
@@nitamishra9645 nah, he is one of the scarce ppl who understood that there are only three movies. it's just like with star wars. there are only two trilogies. I really don't know what you're talking abt. u mean the fan fics?
Thanos is my favorite Marvel character. I was rooting for him to succeed.
Same bro
Same, but you know... plot armor
Are you sure you're not a psycopath?
@@jamesslater9098Respect others opinions, you only hate Thanos bcs they told you to hate him😂
@@Notwhatyourethinking-NPC what? You mean the genocidal maniac. Do you not hate hitler or stalin or mao then?
“The hardest choices require the strong wills”
“I am the ONLY one who knows it, at least, I’m the only one with the will to act on it.”
"It's better to do something then do nothing in life."
I would say that sometimes you need a great will to act, but in others an even greater will to not act.
When Thanos does all this Chaos, bringing destruction and pain to so many people including himself and the ones he loved, that is the type of situation where someone would need an EXTRAORDINARY will to stop and give up on doing what is wrong.
Success: The hardest choices require the strongest wills.
Or the most arrogant. His selfish pride and will stopped him from seeing other options. He has not grieved the memories of his home destroyed. That ultimately is his weakness. Why didn't he create double the recourses? Why didn't he create universe wide peace so that everyone could work together? Why didn't he give worlds the technology to speed across the INFINUTE universe with INFINUTE recourses and harvest them? It is because of his fear of the natural order of things. His memories make him want to stop others from feeling his pain. Which seems good but would you let someone into your house with the intent to give all your money to the poor and needy and hold you at gunpoint to do so?(also you don't know their intent) If yes that is your opinion. But if not you understand the avengers. Someone is going to earth! THEIR HOME!!! and holding it at gunpoint. They don't know why. all they know is that he plans to kill half of all people. The others like the Gradians of the galaxy (excluding Gomora) know much more. They still try to stop him though! I'm sorry but I cannot agree with Thanos.
@@hunter-1717 The gauntlet in the movie doesn't have the ability to create. It just alter an manipulates. Nothing can be truly destroyed or created. The universe is NOT infinite, its finite in the grand scale of things. Its like you didn't even paid attention when he explains it.
Thanos have a really strong conviction. its not about pride or arrogance. he truly believes on what he was doing. Which the Avengers lack besides Tony. It doesn't matter that you agree with it or not.
Also, what the hell is infinute..
@@RhazOfRheos The gauntlet can't create matter but form matter. turn all trash and useless stars into great recourses. I saw this movie 15 times and love it! I am also a Marvel nerd and know more than the average joe about things like this. Also infinute is my computers way of saying "this guy sucks at spelling" in other words auto correct is garbage. Yes Thanos truly believes what he is doing is right. But where did that start? It started with pain he felt! What I am saying is what he wants to theoretically do is good! But it is his stubborn and unchangeable ways that kept him from sing different options. Your right the universe is finite but the multiverse is infinite in Marvel. That means Infinite possibilities! The gauntlet gave Thanos the power to travel between these dimensions. Take and reform recourses from evil in the other dimensions. Or a dimension with no people!
@@hunter-1717 If you know more than the average joe, you should know that the IG doesnt work outside its Universe. Going to other multiverse will make it null. And the movies IG also have the limit that altered reality wont stay as it is if the IG isnt in the vacinity. Hence why Drax and Mantis isnt dead during their first accounter. The movies IG is so limited and its not something that can do everything. Its just a very powerfull item. Doing anything in a unversal scale almost destroyed it.
He does what he does not because of the pain, he does it because thats the only thing he believed in to save everyone. He propose the Idea long before his people was all gone. His people doesnt head to his words and everyone died and they were a civilazation that can travel the stars.
After that he implemented it him self. Swore to help others from facing what his people did. And it WORKED. Gremoras people were on the verge of extinction before, now they prosper more than they ever were after Thanos did what he did.
That adds to his conviction that theres nothing else that he could do And he will be the onlh one who have the will to do it. He knows no one will agree to it because no one understands and experiance it.
Now judging by the feats of the IG that you see in the movie, what else do you thing he could do?
@@RhazOfRheos "Combined with the other Gems the other powers could usually be granted another dimension to spread their effects. Create a portal through time, gain knowledge, presence, or change reality through all time at once." screenrant.com/marvel-infinity-stones-movie-version-comics/
Great video, as you pointed out in this, Thanos is a character with a moral code, he seems impressed with characters such as Stark, Star Lord and Wanda. He sticks to his word and he kills only when necessary. HOWEVER there is one moment that contradicts this, one moment which portrays him as a stereotypical villain, and that’s with the Dwarves. He said he would let the dwarves live if they made him the weapon, but he killed them anyway. He didn’t even spare half like normal, he killed them all. This goes against everything we learn about the character, I’m working on a video where I explore this more. My main idea is that he knew they had the potential to make a stormbreaker type weapon so he was safeguarding his plan
I think that's exactly it
If the dwarves could create a device capable of harnessing the power of the stones then surely they could create a weapon that could kill him
And indeed they did
But luckily for Thanos it didn't go for the head
The thing is, we never see him actually kill dwarves. We only hear it from last survivor, who naturally hates Thanos. But we don't know why he wiped them out. Dwarves could have attacked Thanos first and he killed them because he had to. And if that was the case Eitri would never say that his people shot first. We, humans, tend to twist the history in our favours. If we are talking about friends, we only remember positive parts about their existance and negative for our enemies and people we dislike.
Eitri woud not dishonor his entire race, by talking ill of his people no matter was it truth or not.
Cinemaze Well that makes sense...
@Angelo Casin Its breaking his code by telling them he wouldn't kill them if they make the gauntlet. As mentioned in this video, Thanos sees himself honourable and does not lie. He seems to relate to his opponents and treats them with respect, but in the case of the Dwarves, he acts more like a classic villain going back on his word. His choice to kill the dwarves makes sense, and clearly he felt too much honour to kill Eitri (as you mentioned, in retrospect he should have), but although the choice is logical, it is still uncharacteristic.
He had mercy. He knew the dwarves could help people defeat him, and let 1 of them live anyway. And that almost ruined his life goal, if Thor went for the head...
I cant wait to have a child, kneel next to them after their first big let down, and say "In time you will know what it is like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail all the same. Dread it, run from it. Destiny still arrives."
LMAOOO dont have a child.
Good idea lol
Please don't have a child.
👍
This video is perfectly balanced
As all things should be
PastIconoclast
Wooosh
"Beautiful isn't it"
The moment i felt for Thanos was when young Gamora asks him what victory cost - "Everything."
Something I love about infinity war is how the avengers from the beginning are set up for failure with one major difference.
In a few lines we can see this divide
Steve: "we don't trade lives." (Can't remember full quote)
Thanos:"I've ignored my destiny once, i won't make that mistake again, not even for you."
This is why the avengers failed, Thanos was willing to sacrifice everything to complete his goal no matter the cost. The avengers refuse to make a sacrifice they wanted everyone to make it through, and if someone had to make a sacrifice to complete the mission then they wouldn't do it.
Thanos won because he had the will to do it, because he could go all the way.
The two sides bring up a great moral dilemma, what's more important, sacrificing lives and what is necessary if it means completing the mission or trying to get everyone out with no sacrifice at all but high risk of failure.
my man
Reminds me of what CAP told Stark. "Sometimes you have to lay on the wire so the next man can crawl over your body. You dont look like the type to do the sacrifice play".
@@cmcbunch I would just cut the wire
@Meng Hao and only the naive believe that anything can be accomplished without sacrifice.
Josh Brolin is definitely one of the reasons why I love thanos so much, such a brilliant actor playing such a brilliant character. If you ask me, Josh's voice perfectly fits the appearance of thanos, and because of thanos' large appearance, his voice never feels impeding or too intimidating.
to be completely honest i thought the ending to infinity war was extremely satisfying
@@mushypork1272 EndGame trailer revealed that she did indeed fade away
For me its rhe real ending the final ebdung wil be cheesy abd lame
Mushy Pork god damn
Ending? Not yet!
Mushy Pork lmao
Thanos is commonly reviewed as a poorly developed character. I call bullshit. This video is a great example. Thanos is probably the best comic movie villain we’ve seen since Heath Ledger’s Joker.
Thanos beat Vader as my favorite movie villain.
Watch watchmen
@@traviswheeler8885 READ Watchmen. Unfortunately, Ozzymandias' ending was a little too pat in the movie. Doctor Manhattan's final response to Ozzymandias in the original graphic novel/comic laid bare the flaws of Ozzy's plans. Without this awareness of the tragedy of his own sacrifice, Ozzy ends up just a bit too smug. He's still in my top 5, though, I agree he's a fantastic antagonist. Matthew Goode deserved some awards for his portrayal of Ozzy. Oh well.
My son and I saw it in the theater. Afterward, he said he wanted a gauntlet. Thanos made an impression on at least one person.
I honestly haven’t seen anyone say he’s a poorly developed character. On the contrary, every review I’ve read, seen and every friend I speak to praise him.
ENDGAME SPOILER
What makes Thanos even more amazing is that he destroys the stones, therefore showing that he doesn't need or want them anymore after he completed the only 1 think he had to do, yet the avengers still murder him on his farm.
Death penalty for what he did
iRaliex let’s ask Vision and Gamora what they think after what he did to them.
@@epicfights7898 He had to do what he had to do, they weren't going to stop him finishing his goal and I respect that.
iRaliex it’s funny cause that scene they are acting like they are doing something really hard. Holding down and disarming a man who isn’t even trying to fight back. It’s only for a little bit but the heroes looked like such scumbags.
Well of course, lmao. After killing half of the universe, he deserved to die. Yes I love Thanos because he’s a great villain, but he deserved to die.
To paraphrase former pro-wrestler Mick Foley, "The best villain is the one that absolutely believes that they're right."
@@raulramirez4734 yooo that's a great way to put it. What are your opinions on him this season? I feel he is acting the way he is because he knows how to win but still its kinda scary how he took a 180 in his character
All your descriptions are very true, but when you look at them as a whole, it highlights what truly makes Thanos a interesting villain. Specifically, he’s not written as a villain at all.
Creed- an unceasing dedication to a well explained and logical worldview, spawned from relatable origins.
Integrity- a need to stick to your code of honor and not cause any pain that is not absolutely necessary.
Cunning- the ability to outthink your opponents, showing intelligence and thought.
Vulnerability- being against insurmountable odds, and struggling while the whole world is against you.
Determination- despite this, never giving up, because you know you have to do what you feel is right.
Sacrifice- a willingness to give up the things that make you happy or whole because it’ll make the world better.
Look at these traits again and you see they are not villainous, in fact they’re usually given to the heroes of the story. This is why Thanos works so well as a villain, because he’s written more like a hero who just happens to be fighting against other heroes. That’s why no one wins in the end.
They did the same with Killmonger, who also ended up being a great villain. At the end, he had respect for Tchalla (for not giving up, for not fleeing, even for doing a "sick move"), and was so adamant on his own code that he chose to die, rather than to live outside that code. It felt bad to lose him, because he was absolute hero material.
@@salgamate13 I disagree but understand your viewpoint
Couldn't have said it better!
How can a universe wide mass murderer genocidal maniac not be a villain? If he did all those things in order to be good, which I dare to argue, how come they didn't write him as someone who actually helps people? Or there must be some even greater evil that Thanos tries to fight, but I don't know if that's gonna happen.
It's like saying someone thinks it's for the better to commit battery, because it helps discipline people... The perp may think he's right, but it's still wrong. At least in my book...
IMO Thanos is, at most, a damaged youth that grew up crooked because he couldn't deal with his trauma's and concluding became the universe's most deluded god-complexed dick.
Dextriathlon I think you missed a lot of the nuances Thanos brings and seem to be projecting things either from other villains or the comic Thanos onto the film version. Thanos doesn’t have a god complex, in fact he smirks at Loki when he tells him that, because it’s not true. Thanos doesn’t want to be a god, he wants to save the universe and in his mind he’s the only one with the will to do what is necessary. In his words, he’s a survivor.
Overpopulation and resource consumption are very important issues, and while there are better solutions than killing a ton of people, we aren’t doing them, in fact we’re making more and more people regardless. Many philosophers would say that Thanos’ reasoning is sound.
Just perfectly encapsulates why Thanos is this generation’s Darth Vader. We can only hope he’s just as good a villain in Avengers 4. Because it’s not just the writing of his character that makes him so good, but Brolin’s performance as well.
Arthas is this generation's Darth Vader
I see Thanos more as this generation's Emperor Darth Sidious. Just like Sidious, Thanos has:
-operated from behind the scenes.
-sent other villains to do his dirty work.
-created a series of wars just to gain more power for himself (that power being the infinity stones).
-corrupted a young child into being his apprentice (that child being Gamora).
-only fought the heroes when they found out he's the main cause of all the conflicts.
AND
-commited intergalactic genocide.
@@loudboy317 I think he was talking more about Vader's impact Thanos is like Vader not in terms of motivations or actions but more on his impact in this generation in just one movie his character has spawned in-depth character analysis, memes, and off course merchandise.
I know this may sound like a large leap, especially with the implicated weight it carries, but I'm gonna say it:
Thanos, in my opinion, will go down as one of the greatest villains, not just in the MCU, but in *film history.* Right up there with Darth Vader, The Joker, Hannibal Lector, and so on and so forth. This video, along with many others like it, only validate this for me.
He's for sure going to be up there
DefinitelyNotaPervert He's not a villain ;)
And the thing is, he is in a way better than all of them
Luke White truth!
Thanos may well surpass all of those...
Thanos is the representation of being a perfect person on the atrocious side of morality
Absolutely phoenominal breakdown. Thanos is by far one of the top 3 villains ever put on screen, and my personal favourite. What make him scary isn't how intimidating he is (like Vader), or how crazy and unpredictable and careless he is (like Joker). What makes Thanos terrifying is his conviction, his sheer will to achieve this goal. The fact that he truly believes that he is doing the right thing, and making life better off for it. Think about it, the only time we saw him mad was when he saw Nebula, his failure of a daughter. Everyone else he treats with respect. This respect + how logical he is + how calm and collected he is = one of the most grounded, relatable villains ever put to screen.
thank you :)
I like that you noticed how much he hates nebula, "It'd be a waste of parts" was a rather surprising response from him
Now before i explain. IW is my 3rd fav MCU film, I think it's great - however There is a glaring issue with Thanos overall plan and motivation. this problem makes him a terrible villain. NOW HE IS COOL. but he can never be considered up there with Magneto or Zod or Vader etc. Cause his plan has fundamental flaw. Its a stupid plan for children who don't want to think or use their brains. Its a surface level plan that when you actually examine it - is moronic and achieves nothing.
Here is why killing half the Universe at random equally for every planet to bring Balance so that resources last for said planets IS COMPLETE NONSENSE
Ok firstly lets pretend the universe has 100 Billion Planets harbouring life. ok. just to put a number on it, could be less - most likely more. however lets simply work with that number.
ok so not all planets are the same age.
not all planets are at the same stage of evolution for it's life. example some planets will be over populated. most will be ideally populated and some will be completely under populated. such as Earth - NOT over populated, some planets will be like earth 50,000 years ago when we had to migrate from Africa due to Climates, and our populations were dangerously low. now if the human race lost half its population then - we would have gone extinct - not bringing balance or paradise but simply ending the RACE - so IT doesn't work. Laws of probability would dictate 200 million planets are over populated and htis measure would help. 200 million would be under populated and this measure would cause extinction, and 600 mill would be ideally populated and this measure would slow the development.
Now what is considered LIFE, is it only intelligent life. if so whats intelligent. would half of all dolphins die? why half of all the fish they eat would also die, and there for BOTH things would cancel each other out. no balance in that.
NOW biggest flaw of the whole plan is that it is simply a STOP GAP - yes, every planet thats over populated running out of resources. if the resources didn't also lose half their population. well this will help them. until they re populate. and then what - click your fingers again, and again and again - what the point on saving a universe in your own mind, if you simply have to kill half of it over and over? its not a plan that can work. as every time you destroy half you are doing it for the survival of 200 million planets but to the detriment of the other 200 million under populated planets and to the harm of the 600 million ideally populated planets. So it's not only pointless - its moronic. there are far more issues with it than this. but these are the obvious problems to a plan that simply achieves NOTHING
@@reddevilsunited7780 Yes it's not a great plan - but it's what makes him the villain, and also what makes him real. History is full of men who committed great evil in an ideological fanaticism to do what they thought would serve the greater good - and most of the time what they thought was the solution the world's or their nation's problems was moronic, simplistic and very shallow.
Your argument is one that Thanos was wrong (hence him being the villain), not that he was badly written.
Edward Lightowlers no. You completely mistaking a flawed villain and a moronic stupid plan. It's the equivalent of me saying I'm going to blow up the bank with a nuclear bomb in order to rob the money. It simply doesn't make sense
I just noticed the colour filter changes according to the infinity stones and the order he gets them. (Kinda obvious)Also finally an analysis where the speaker is calm and not overexcited
i dont like it, it messes with the integrity of the film and makes it harder to watch even though its about what he says
Has anyone else noticed this?
Thanos to Loki: the Stone or your brother. Thor survives the snap
Strange to Thanos: spare his life and I will give you the Stone. Tony survives the snap
Thanos to Wanda: I understand (your loss and pain). Wanda gets reunited with vision
Nah more like they just want original 6 back for Endgame and got rid of other OP characters
@Julian Hen Thanos had no way of knowing that
@@DanielFuentes-mr3nn uhh.... to.. tony??
you on to something there, Strange ple to thanos makes a lot of sens wen looking at how endgame trund out.
In fact it could seem like Strange mad a calculated move for that 1 chance to happen
@@lancetheking7524 like when thanos snaps, not in endgame
The only issue I ever had with the MCU's version of Thanos was his goal: wiping out half the population of the universe. I understood the Russo's reason for this goal, which was to make Thanos into a character that is doing bad things for a seemingly good reason rather than the selfish villain from the comics who is doing it to win the heart of Lady Death.
The problem I have with his goal in the MCU movies is that he is too intelligent to have that goal. If you wipe out half the universe, over time the universe will repopulate and leave you with the same situation which led to Thanos wanting to destroy half of it to begin with. He then destroyed the thing that allowed that solution to be used again, temptation as he called it in End Game (there is also the fact that someone like the Avengers would want to find him and use it to undo what he did). Thanos is smarter than that. He would have a more permanent solution to the problem, to avoid it happening again. His goal just seemed too temporary.
Exactly. I thought the same thing
"Two Words Mad Titan" You have to remember he's supposed to be batshit insane.
@@williamblazkowicz5587 One, he is from the planet Titan. He was called "Mad" by his own people (other Titans) for his solution to their planet's resource problem. His solution was dispassionate and fair, but still genocide. This does not mean he is insane, just extreme.
Idk if it helps that much because we only see the aftermath of infinity war on earth, but the snap still hindered everything for 5 years on earth, the impact and distraught is what i believe gave thanos the edge and his thinking being, if they were to try it or itll happen again theyd fear the inevitable of it happening again, it doesnt sound like his thinking but it matches up in a way, his way to keep things in the universe balanced for the time after is fear for something worse
perhaps the population was simply outgrowing the technology capable of supporting the population. with half the population wiped, the technology to expand will keep increasing exponentially to overtake the rate of growth of the population. my theory anyways.
Unpopular opinion: Marvel should’ve just ended it here.
would have gone done in history if the snap was never reversed
@@maybetomorrownewmaker exactly my point
I agree i wish the snap was permanent
@@samuelvillegas7635 it did end right there thanos won countless times. this is why everyone prefers infinity war over endgame. endgame is a ending they won but with sacrifice but thanos still won every other possible outcome. but as for the whole cinematic universe ending? boy oh boy pick up a comic book involving dr doom hes on par or even better and it would be sad to never see a true adaptation of him (looking at the 2000s live action dr doom smh) so no it shoudlnt have ended the only thing that ended was the avengers saga we still have to do fantastic four and xmens
@@thelel6591 Endgame isnt endng the MCU its not even ending Phase 3 what are u on about?
I mean to be fair, thanos wouldn't want to kill gamora's boyfriend since he (thanos) actually loved gamora.
lol oh the sweet naivety XD
ever heard of overprotective fathers?
As if fathers had not killed boys for almost as little as looking wrong at there daughters, and they sure did it out of love.
Also Thanos hole character, is he will do what he thinks right and not care what others think:
if he did not like "gamora's boyfriend" i see no reason he would not snap that guy out of existence.
@@MouseGoat Thanos didnt think of every single individual being that was snapped out of existence to fade. Even if Thanos did not mean to kill Quill, his will was to wipe out half of existence and the gauntlet simply followed through
There was no picking and choosing
Thanos said he like him
No homo tho
@@MouseGoat Did you not watch the video? The whole point of Thanos is his principles. It's not about what he likes or doesn't like, it's about what he thinks is right. There was no reason for Quill to die before the snap, so he didn't kill him.
If that was true why didn't he kill him when he easily could have multiple times?
Man I remember the buildup to infinity war, everyone was so worried Thanos wouldn’t live up to the hype, but then they went and did it. Infinity War was an experience.
We waited ten years and it ended up being the best one
I like what you did with the color scheme. Purple(power), Blue(space), Red(reality), Orange(soul),Green(time) and when it's finally completed with the last color Yellow(mind) . Edit: you even timed it when he puts the last stone in the gauntlet. Nice!
Infinity War was such a good movie. Im stoked for End Game.
the Savage Now having probably seen it, what did you think?
@@HowardTheDucksWong Endgame was a complete mess, predictable, bland and at times just cringeworthy. 5 out of 10 for me, i kept watching the time in movie theater.
Having high standards can suck the joy from otherwise decent movies.
Lightning McQueen dies in endgame
Endgame didn't live up to Infinity War.
"Thanos lost Gamora, the only thing he had in this world."
Nebula: Am I a joke to you?
As far as he was concerned, she's just a waste of parts pretty much. She is so worthless to him that he didn't wanna kill her.
Thanos: Yes... Yes you are.
Very notable is how Captain America’s mantra in this movie is “We don’t trade lives.” Meanwhile, it’s shown to be the only thing that can actually work with stakes this high. But what Thanos fails to recognize is that his ‘sacrifices’ aren’t noble. Noble sacrifices are a sacrifice of one’s self, and enabling someone else to sacrifice themselves by their own active choosing. Not sacrificing someone else for your own ends. Cap is wrong because he refuses to allow Vision to destroy the stone in himself. Thanos is wrong because he chooses his own personal beliefs over the lives of others. Starlord, ironically, is the only person in the movie to make a sacrifice out of genuine love, instructed by Gamora to kill her and held to his word on behalf of his own deceased mother, and he and Gamora were the only ones who weren’t allowed to make it. Thanos stole that sacrifice from the both of them. If they had been able to fulfill it, Thanos wouldn’t have been able to win. He would’ve had nothing to ‘sacrifice’.
It’s easy to see why Peter snapped when he learned Thanos killed her. Thanos stole Gamora’s sacrifice, stripped her of all agency, and used his own sense of purpose to justify it. Starlord’s even seen a woman he loves get treated this way before when he learned Ego the Living Planet put the tumor in his mother’s head so as to not keep himself emotionally tethered to Earth. It would seem the Cosmic Entities in the Marvel Universe are very keen on killing people they claim to love in the name of furthering their own ends. It’s the gravest insult imaginable and it pisses me off even thinking about it.
Wonderfully stated. I ultimately wasn't fond of Infinity War, and yet I can agree with everything you said here. 👍🏻
Well said.👌
But... trading lives doesn't work. They still failed. They destroyed Vision but Thanos still got to the mind stone.
On that thought. Time was the only thing that completely obliterated Cap's plan. They always intended to destroy the stone but not until they could have Vision maintain his consciousness without it, which was established as possible, simple even. They simply ran out of time. It's also the time stone that allows Thanos to recover the smashed mind stone.
I find that it would also be interesting to see which characters manage to get Thanos' respect during the film and compare them to those who don't to get an even better idea of what he values.
@@davidwillcocks808 vision died too late. Same with peter and gamora. Had he fired immediately he would have killed him. Also, gamora didnt kill herself right away knowing she is the one that can end it right then and there. Also, Thor didnt go for a killing blow, he went to mock him. All avengers made mistakes in crucial moments, thanos is the only one who did what he had to when he had to
UltimateKyuubiFox but Starlords noble choice is most likely, probably is, the reason Thanos won. They were so close to beating him bit Starlords emotions got the best of him in that moment and it cost literally have of the universe
A villain becomes great by his motives not by his powers.
All hail mighty thanos
ENDGAME SPOILERS
Honestly i felt abit bad and sad when Thanos faded
I have only seen such a scene twice, I admired that scene so much, and I instantly remembered the scene where Madara gets sucked into kaguya and in a moment of realizing that he’s failed he silently thinks to himself “where have I gone wrong”, and I think when Thanos just calmly sits down and stare while slowly fading I could just see him thinking the same words “ where have I gone wrong “ and it hits, after all, the Thanos that’d lost and faded in the end of endgame isn’t the same Thanos that Thor chopped his head off, the Thanos that won in the end of infinity war, or did he?
Madara is a villain with the same god complex as Thanos from Naruto shippuden, a Japanese animation.
Joe Mac I agree. Madara and Thanos are similar yet still have different morals.
The guy tortured his daughter in front of his other daughter to get the LOCATION of the Soul stone and then killed his own daughter to get it. Also he halved ALL life including, animals, MICROORGANISMS, and PLANTS, yknow, FOOD AND RAW MATERIALS?!?!?
His choice to snap half of ALL life instead of sentient life is a REALLY big oversight and makes no damn sense.
TL;DR
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Lemmon Boy ok but do you really care about all of those microorganisms that died? Plus Thanos could get rid of corona so idc what you have to say but that alone makes him likeable
Proskilzz
Google what the largest producer of oxygen on Earth is
(Also him removing a virus that kills hundreds of thousands when him halving food will cause MILLIONS to die from famine on Earth ALONE is still a shitty and short sighted thing to do)
Thanos was a refreshing take on the bad guy for the MCU and IW was a refreshing marvel movie. It was the first MCU that had actually pulled me in fully since Cap Winter Soldier, and the story itself actually got an emotional response from me where no MCU had managed to before. Thanos the Mad Titan succeeded in becoming memorable along side the other great villains of movies. Great video man! I had never heard of you before this, cant wait to see what else you have.
Infinity War>Endgame
Endgame > DC
No
Yes
Tuoc Bui the dark knight is better then anything in the mcu universe including infinity war and endgame
Emperor palpatine the winter soldier is close but agree, if we throw in Spider-Man 2 and Logan now that’s a conversation to talk about
He was exactly what humanity actually needed. Dude didn't have a vendetta with anyone or age old bitter rivalry. He simply believed what he was doing was right. Fix the problem in a way no one else had the balls to, and then go about his own business.
That was Thanos’ movie. He was the protagonist and he defied all our expectations and outsmarted Earth’s mightiest heroes. None of us expected him to be such a deep and complicated character. Definitely the best villain.
without a dilly doubt
Full Fat Videos He's not a villain though
Alyssa Popov • Tʜᴇ Lᴏɴᴇ Sᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴏʀ Yes he is. Just like Killmonger. Having a reason doesn’t justify your atrocities. Especially when your reasoning is so substantially and scientifically flawed, as is the case with Thanos. Killmonger had more legitimate criticism than Thanos and even he was a villain because of his tactics, so Thanos is not exempt at all.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox didnt the avengers lead to deaths in cities cause of their reckless battles? Gonna act like Thor and his asgardians are not villains even though they wiped out Loki's race? There are no heroes or villains just sides with different ideas and methods to reach their goals
@@Silverman216nah the heroes try to protect the city and people died as collateral. Thanos and his stupidity thinks killing half the universe is the answer when people will just repopulate in more number s
I just love how different this Thanos is. All those words describe him so well and the fact he is the one with the will to act on things even if he knows he'll lose someone. That sense of pride and vulnerability are what I want in a great villain
Thanos is prob my favourite character in MCU...
then you like God
Finally, someone else said it
@@last7509 God don't exist and Thanos is not a God
@@tizyman7120 You mean "doesn't". But He actually does. And we already know Thanos is not a God. Because Loki told him so 😏
He, too, is my favorite character of the MCU
I find it funny that if Thanos wasn't an evil murdered he would have left Quill date his daughter
lol he'd be a great dad
It's not that
He needed gamora to retrieve the soul stone
He knew by gamora's sister that gamora discovered where the stone is
Thanos never disapproved quill
He actually was amaze by peter's loyalty as peter kept his word
Thus thanos was impressed
@@silverprimus321boi9 we already know he isn't
If the sacrifice wasn't required, I'd imagine the following scene would go something like this: Thanos teleports back to Quill and throws Gamora to him "Keep her safe..." Quill lashes out at him to try and kill him "YOU SON OF A-!" He yells as Thanos promptly kicks him back with a mild blow from the power stone "...and don't get in my way." Finished Thanos as he teleports away.
quill is a murderer too
This proves that it goes beyond saying Thanos is the best MCU villain, you can now say he's one of the most complex and fascinating villains in all of cinema. I'm amazed you could list his qualities into just one video.
Gravity falls.
Thanos: Has more determination than everyone else
Strange: "Congratulations you played yourself"
The thing is. If they replaced strange with Thanos, there's a very high chance that he wont stop at only 14 million. Guy is willing to fight the entire universe, nobody has as much willpower as him.
I rarely comment on UA-cam videos. But this, this put a smile on my face
Thanks McFly! Oh? Mcfly, your shoe's untied!
I understood that reference.
Imagine wining 14 million times and when the only 1 time you lost they make a movie of it.
Most convincing patreon pitch ever lmao
hopefully you don't go on a crazy mission to destroy the world now😧
THAT’S RIGHT, IT’S MOVIES WITH MIKEY COUNTER-ARGUMENT TIME. Great video, I love this channel.
I don't actually follow him but good to know, I may check it out! Thanks for watching dude
Hey there HoustonProductions1. Great to see you here. I absolutely love your content!!
hi Houston! love your videos. I have complicated feelings about that movies with mikey video because I don't entirely disagree with him. I would love to hear your feelings on it
@@SUCSC that video was just weird. I haven't seen any of his other videos and I understand that a lot of people like his channel but to me it just seems like he ranted about not liking it because of the darker tone that the mcu took with this movie (never mind that the comics it's based off is way darker), references something about him having a bad year like the movie was having a go at him personally and goes on about the relationship between Thanos and Gamora like he is the first person to notice it might not be 100% healthy.
@@somethinglikethat2176 You should check out his other videos, he is fantastic. I understand how he feels about Thanos but ultimately still love the character and movie
We see a child panic in fear, as he violently clings to existence
NOT JUST THE MEN, BUT THE WOMEN AND THE CHILDREN TOO
@@FullFatVideos dang, you actually replied, you should do a story on other villains like heath ledger joker
Is that a reference?
@@giulyblaziken268 no, but he should do a video on that
@@FullFatVideos lmao