I mean, she is right, what we see as overnight success usually does take years because we don’t see all the work before the success. But in MLMs it just takes years without the success.
In my job we recently went to a partial-teleworking system, and the Director announced that we would have 2 compulsory days in the office. As she was talking she said that the reason is that she needed to be able to see everyone in person, and just out loud she said "you might say that then I should come in every day, but I diverge" to go on to explain that every one should come in the two same days she will, instead 😏 this felt like the same non-realisation. Needless to say I have changed branch since to avoid that specific director!!!!
@@Rechtauch My boss tried something similar a while ago. I work for the online section at my job, and my work happens entirely on the internet. Yet, at one point, he decided that the five of us who work exclusively online, should attend weekly meetings in person "because he wanted to see us". I was like, "And who do you think will be working while we are traveling an hour to and from the office for a 30-minute meeting 95 to 100 percent of which doesn't even concern us at all?" I really, really hate things that don't make sense, and I really, really hate to waste money with useless crap, like sitting in the car for an hour back and forth for a meeting that doesn't even concern me.
I feel this woman is genuine in her advice, which is overall very ethical and kind, and that means her situation will likely go one of two ways: she'll get seriously burned by this "business" or she'll amp up the delusion to cope and turn into a monster. That's the only way I can see this going for her, imo.
Yes, it is truly sad and tragic - if she is a legit business owner she would be a good customer representative or great service provider and working with people. The wrong business model that is not built for sustainability. Shame shame shame.
Ok I get the comment but common, it's honestly likely someone owns something from chanel. This brand is in nearly every major metropolitan city so it's not that difficult to purchase something from there. She said she's married, her husband seems supportive...he could have easily purchased her a christmas gift or something from there. There's a fine line between breaking down a video for fact and then commenting assumptions about people and trying to use something ( that someone is clearly proud of) against their character to put them down. I genuinely don't think this channel is about this and I think there needs to be a mindset shift with some of yall. This channel furthermore proves having a monat car doesnt make you rich BUT being jealous or seeing someone own something more pricey ALSO won't make anyone richer. No need to be bitter.
@@yanasopinion4580 I doubt she meant it in that way. I think she’s saying that someone in Monat could assume they can buy Chanel with Monat money. Also, people like to collect designer shopping bags. A lot of shops will give you a bag if you ask for one. The bag adds to the disillusion.
Actually, Alysebell1 isn’t far off. MLMs ENCOURAGE all of their “people” to show a lavishly lifestyle. So, that Chanel bag totally is there for the “join Monat and you’ll have a bag like this”
It’s also the weird placement of it. Why would you put a carrier bag there? Or keep it in the video? If it wasn’t a flex you’d be like, ooh I best get this shopping bag out of the way.
Listened to this while building the kitchen table for the house I just bought with money from my *shudder* 9 to 5. This woman sounds so sweet that it makes me pretty sad to know she's been taken advantage of like this. You can achieve your goals without an mlm and there are jobs that will pay you well without crushing your soul or making you read abhorrent personal development books
Oh my gosh so funny! My husband just built a dining table this morning! 😂 and I totally agree, she sounds so kind and I’m bummed she got involved with Monat 😕
@34:30 I absolutely love that she's basically admitted that the ones who have the most success, the "instant" success are the ones who come into the MLM with a network, with connections and with a big social media following BEFORE joining the MLM. This flies in the face of their usual selling point they use to recruit of "you don't need a huge social media following to make money! I only had X followers on IG/friends on FB and I made money". It's all so much BS.
This seems like one of the boss babes that genuinely believes in the business. Her advice is "good" and she seems to be very honest, which makes it more sad that she has been brainwashed. Also thanks for another makeup get ready video, I actually love watching you do it 😅 Thanks Hannah!!
Girl we do not care if you have not had a head to toe make-over before you go on camera. I think most of us understand you are a real person with a real life and don't mind if you have to film early or without makeup or whatever. We are just so happy you're here entertaining us.
Much of her advice is factual and appropriate. However, everything a recruit will hear from her upline’s upline, company propaganda, conventions etc, once they sign on, will directly contradict everything she’s saying. The business model is fundamentally flawed and whether it’s the classic obnoxious and toxic hun or a slightly spruced up version it’s still unsustainable.
I really hate how they work so hard to convince these people that anyone who is against the business model, is against them as a person. So any questions and they feel attacked. It's gross.
Also, while her advice is solid (out of the context of her shilling a scam) she could have said it in a _faaaaaaaar_ shorter timespan. Like, her video could have been 10 minutes, maybe 15 max. Tho given how long MLM team calls are this seemed to be some kind of tradition in the community.
LOL, the whole "you need to have a strong reason WHY you want to be in this business because it's REALLY HARD" is basically what they tell us in acting school... except we all go into it knowing we'll be poor for life XD
Love that this girl thinks teachers need to go back and get their masters to be a principal. In most states you need a masters just to even /be/ teacher
This lady is a different type of boss babe and more concerning to me tbh- she is one of the most "hinged" mlm-er that I could see recruit many people on fence which is definitely a market worth targeting for them.
@@HannahAlonzo she's the definition of catching more flies with honey. it's a lot easier to be recruited by her than by those who are screaming at you through a phone
Has anyone else heard of any other profession where "personal development" is pushed so hard? Literally any other where they tell you to consume _specific and singular_ types of media as literally part of your work, on the clock? Because I personally can't think of any and it always comes across as simply a cultish method to keep their members subservient since I'm sure if a "personal development book" told them to get tf out of an MLM they'd tell them to stop _that_ kind of personal development, aka critical thinking and free will.
Exactly. And then when you add that with all the other insane stuff that you don’t do at any other job and it’s baffling that they don’t see how there’s an issue
What's scary is that business coaches (non-network marketing coaches) peddle this. It's extremely common, and every coach I invested in (to grow my consultancy) talked about doing all this personal development stuff and didn't actually help with the real business development aspects. Boss Babe culture has definitely infiltrated online business space.
I didn’t support MLM but personal development is extremely important if you own a business. Marketing, good product, customer services are factors in increasing sales but other factors such as your own self, you as a person, mindset, that matters too. And that really impact results. Because business is about leadership. To become leader/employer you have to have qualities and not just regular qualities but leadership qualities. And these are polished and learn in the personal development/ self improvement class ☺️
@@kishyussof The "personal development" industry is full of people getting rich off of convincing you they know how to get rich. So much of those books and videos are complete bullshit and toxic positivity and promote a "one size fits all" approach to life which will never work because every individual is different, everyone has different life experiences, different mental and physical health problems, etc. That is why therapists can't write one book with all of the answers to solve everyone's health issues. Sometimes some people will find something that really resonates with what they need and who they are and those are where you get the testimonials, but for most people self improvement media just serves to make them feel ashamed they aren't doing better.
"Washing your hair with Monat is different." Yes, because there won't be much hair left when you're done! But in all seriousness, even if it wasn't just an excuse to explain why it isn't working as promised ("you're hair is falling out because you're not using it right!"), I'm not going to use a product that's overly complicated. I am too lazy for that. If it has more steps than apply, lather, and rinse, I'm out. Products being sold to a general audience should generally easy to use.
Ha! Years ago, I worked at a call center that (among other things) handled the order line for a line of African-American skin care. I don’t remember the name of the guy who developed it, but as part of our training to take the orders for it, we watched the 30-minute infomercial (actually we watched several versions of it.) What really exemplified this particular product line/routine was the use of ice cubes. The infomercial started with the actor getting a bowl of ice cubes from the freezer. Then they rubbed an ice cube all over their face. Then they splashed water. Then they applied the cleansing cream. Then they rinsed, and rubbed another ice cube. Then toner. Then ice cube. Then spot treatment. Then ice cube. Then pre/moisturizer. Then ice cube. Then moisturizer. That was the night routine; the morning routine included filling the ice cube bowl with water and dunking the face in it. before the final moisturizer. The dude who developed this routine was really puzzled and annoyed that his sales weren’t higher, and we (and our management) were like, “Dude, what did you expect? Your system is like $200 and requires half an hour twice a day plus an entire freezer-full of ice cubes. It’s ridiculous. People see that huge long process and just nope right out of there.”
I got friend suckered into buying Monat once. My hair did great with my first free sample and the bought ones…nightmare! Hair did fall out, tho not drastic. The main thing is it smelled horrible! I couldn’t put my finger on it. And then my husband would hug me or snuggle and say, “babe your hair smells like cat piss!” THAT was it! The horrible smell. It DID smell litter box’ish. It felt so rough and seemed matted up. Trust me, having long, super thick, frizzy, curly, red hair- you certainly don’t want what this shampoo and conditioner offered .i also got the usual “yoire not doing it right” From multiple reps. I’ve been washing my hair for 30+ yrs, I’ve somehow managed hair washing in that time. Edited to add: I also got the oil and it honestly worked, but didn’t smell great (not as strong as shampoo and conditioner) and way overpriced. I recently bought an awesome $7 one at Walmart. I’ve also got big named ones from Ulta or whatever STILL less than $20
I feel like most of her advice is solid...out of context of an MLM. That's the scary thing when they have kernels of truth in what they say that would be applicable in other circumstances.
I teach in public schools (Western Canada) and I have no desire to be a principal. The going salary for a high school principal in my district is about $150,000, but they are first at the school, last to leave, and they have to be at every school event, not to mention district meetings. Basically, they have no life outside of work. I am happy to be able to actually go home and not worry about some emergency that needs to be resolved at 5 a.m. If you're a principal and you like it, I respect the role. It's not my preference for my career.
My mother-in-law was an elementary school principal for 30 years. And yep, that sounds about right. The SMILE on her face every August and September after she’d retired? Hilarious 😂, and very understandable.
Tbh, I think she has a point there. I get up at 6:30 and I get so much more done than when I got up at 8, simply because I work better in the morning and don’t like to do anything stressful after dinner, but I don’t sleep less than I used to. I only hope that’s true in her case, too.
I’ve been watching your videos everyday! I’m just mesmerized by these people that join these things! I subscribed today because I love your sincere and kind words about the people and save your distaste for the actual companies. And you know your stuff! You’re going to do great.10k subscribers is just the beginning, you are very likable!
Not related but I'm totally envious that you can get your lashes on in 30 seconds 🤣 great video and awesome points made per usual! I'm very happy to see your channel continue to grow
@@HannahAlonzo So the answer is practice? Daggonnit, I was really hoping for a miracle lolsob 😭😭. Hope you’re feeling better from the root canal. Those things are no joke!
Oh girl!!!! I've been to the dentist 5-6 times this year alone. Between fillings, cleanings and a root canal. I'm over it!!! Over it! 😂😂 and definitely feel your pain. Hope your tooth is feeling much better. 💖 I'm sure I'll be back to comment again after the video 😂
@@HannahAlonzo omg girl!! I hate that someone feels my pain, but it also makes me feel better 😂 My last thing is getting my wisdom teeth out, but I'm waiting until next year for that.
I got my wisdom teeth out already and honestly, I would rather do that then a filling/root canal. At least they knock you out and you wake up when it’s over 😂
I hear ya. I didn't go to the dentist for over a decade, and needed a lot of work done due to poor personal hygiene. Cavities on multiple teeth, fillings, extensive cleanings due to gingivitis. It was a lengthy process.
“You *will* hear No. You are going to face rejection, people who are rude, etc…” Anybody want to bet that she didn’t say this to anyone *before* they signed up? Before they sign up, it’s all, “it sells itself! People will be falling all over themselves to throw money at you!” Then after, it’s suddenly, “Oh, yeah, you’ll get lots of rejection.”
Besides how much people make, the only other thing needed to be said to recruits is that almost no money is made from product sales, it’s from recruiting, and that no one can rank up without recruiting. That’ll get a lot of people to not want to join any mlm. A lot of people would rather sell the products instead of selling the mlm lifestyle. To me, selling the mlm lifestyle seems harder ‘cause it seems more like bragging or flaunting. That’s if the products the seller has to sell are good products that aren’t overpriced than the average pricey competitors that most people know about. So I guess in a mlm, selling the lifestyle is easier.
Can I mention the fact, that you look gorgeous with or without makeup?!? I love your videos, I binge watching them while doing my everyday chores, and I (you, actually) also made my boyfriend addicted to your content as well! Keep up the good work, you’re amazing! ❤
Literally watching anti-MLM stuff and then I see a fb post from my niece that says "people really be risking having unprotected sex, but won't risk starting their own business" ..... I can't.
Lol I've had a lot of circumstances change for me including being homeless and sleeping on concrete sidewalks...and never thought not FOR ONE SECOND about joining an MLM
what she says: "stop comparing yourself to others! it's toxic!" what she means: "don't share incomes or wonder how the rich people got to be so rich when you are working the same amount! we can't have people knowing it's unfair!"
Another great video 👍 you break things down so well. It's hard because companies, especially Monat, try to control the info you receive from the outside world, but I hope someone finds this first before they sign up.
This is the type of upline I had. They said to stay in for at least 2 years before quitting because it takes time to build. This type of “realistic” training is definitely more dangerous AND more disappointing when you get to the end of 2, 3 or 4 years and have tried absolutely everything to make it work, yet you still only have your mom, grandma and sister in your down line who have never bought another thing since joining. They tell you if you’re not growing it’s your fault for not selling it well but it’s also your friends’/family’s fault for not believing in the product….. people like this kill with kindness. It’s worse than someone who’s yelling and mean bc you really don’t see it coming until way down the line after all the emotional damage is done. I’m having to undo a lot mentally and emotionally from this evil business model.
I have to say, being a female engineer, I was still accused of going to college to get my MRS, so in a way I did have to defend it. Something she does is say "I'm going to be honest with you," I do not know if it's due to the toxic people in my life, but if you need to tell me you're being honest, chances are you're hiding something.
She preaches to lie by omission instead of lie blatantly lol. Kinda like telling them to stab you in the front rather than stab you in the back. I guess its more polite.
You just said something at 56:58 that helped me (besides everything else - LOL), about keeping our noses in the self help books, and with the people on the team, the uplines, etc. -- and it was that if we keep ourselves drenched in those things, it takes longer to realize MLMs are a scam. I have been trying desperately to figure out why I was involved in so many for so many years, and with all the self help stuff and the "team" -- THAT'S what it was. It's not because I was so dumb! THANK YOU!
I think her comments about choosing an upline that cares are very telling. I'm sure a lot of her advise stems from things she experienced when she started the "business". I really hope she get's out before she is too brainwashed. BTW, I love your videos Hannah. I'm binge watching for the last few days.
Oh mama! I had a root canal last year. It should have been an emergemcy/urgent root canal, but it was mid-covid and all the dentists and endodontists had limited appointments. Several weeks later I got in. Those were the most agonizing weeks of my life. I'm so glad you got in quick!
I listen to these videos as a podcast while I study, and I just suddenly heard Hannah going "cult cult cult!" and I died laughing! I walk around my house listening to these videos going "ding ding ding, cult! Ding ding ding, cult!" so Hannah doing the same thing made me laugh. Thank you Hannah!
I have that same gloss .. I love it .. I wish I could do makeup like you . So talented. I think you should always do a GRWM with the MLM content.. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I love how there is a perfectly placed Chanel bag behind her, in near full view, with a pretty white bow on it. She’s trying to be honest, but I feel she’s flaunting a bit in this video as well to attract new recruits
As for the relationship building part, I think that some businesses thrive with that without being scammy. It's less about being friends with people and more about networking. For me, that's how I've been able to include speaking on stages and in schools and doing live workshops in different nonprofits. And it led to meeting people who ended up becoming clients who I never would've met. I just wanted to chime in and make that distinction because legitimate service-based businesses can thrive through relationship marketing tactics. But again, just because it works for a legitimate business, it doesn't mean it's valid for network marketing.
Listening to this as i fit out my huge new workshop for my small business that turns over nearly $1mil and we only just moved out of a room of our house.. I actually cannot believe that just 3 years ago my business was very part time and i was dabbling in MLM in case my business didn't work out... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honesty, I really like this lady and wish she could put all of these great pieces of advice into legitimate businesses or something else. It is good to be honest, have realistic expectations, be consistent, have time management skills, and be willing to learn. All those things are great for living a full life. Even me, “just” a stay at home mom and part time piano teacher. I need all those skills! I’m encouraged by her, just not to be in an MLM. 🤭
24:25 i was just WAITING for her to pull out that "comparison is the death of joy" quote that rachel hollis loved to pass off as her own. (although "comparison is the death/thief of joy" is a quote that's been attributed to several different people in several different configurations, with theodore roosevelt, mark twain, and c.s. lewis being among those names.)
I am self employed, and I do actually take time off whenever I need/want it. I have some disabilities that keep me from being as consistent as I'd like to be. I'm still somehow making money... hmm... must be that products really do sell themselves!
But I do feel like it's important to see the source, why huns feel like they have to work 24/7. If a grocery store loses one customer one day, it won't matter, but a hun can't afford not to answer the message immediately and risk losing a lead Edit: PS. Feel you, I have a same kind of thing, work-ability and day-off-wise
36:48 I used to be in an MLM (well, a few of them) and I always thought the "know your why" was strange. Dude, everyone needs a job. Adults pay bills. That's why ANYONE wants to work. Why do you need my "why?"
I have a few questions for her. If she makes $13,000 per YEAR, I assume this is before taxes. So it’s less than $1,000 per month. OK, here are my questions: who pays for your house?? You mentioned a basement; so I am deducing you live in a house. It could be a condo. Regardless, who pays for that? Who pays for your cute sweater in this video?? Who pays for your cute lace top underneath?? Jewelry?? Who pays for your Chanel bag?? Who pays for your utilities?? Who pays for your health insurance, if you have that?? Who pays for the gym equipment in the basement?? What about children?? I could go on, but I think I made the point that she is advertising a hobby at best. A hobby she can afford because somewhere else there is a source of income paying the bills as well as the little luxuries. Hannah, I love your personality, your intelligence, and your kitties!!!! 🥰🥰🥰
Hannah could you PLEASE deep dive on Lime life & Scentcy.. please these huns on Facebook are driving me CRAZY with their stupid posts .. ugh 😩 HELP I need to post and debunk these HUNS..
The first point she made about not giving false promises about "how easy it is"... I DARE her to bring this up with the higher ups in Monat. They're the ones teaching these women to do this, remember?
Sadly even though I have worked in the call center world for over 16 years with legit companies, I still have to convince some people of the validity of my work. Granted I don't have to convince people my job isn't a scam.... My point is there are legit (read not MLM scams) out there that still get shit on for existing. It's draining honestly.
54:40 as an artist who once considered becoming a teacher: I have to defend my decision to go to the Academy of Fine Arts a l l the time. People always say that painting some pictures is not a real official job like being a doctor or a lawyer, and that I will never make any money out of it :')
Regarding the question of do people stick in MLMs for long periods of time, I put forth that they do, BUT those folks don't see it as a career move. Case in point, my aunt has been a part of Mary Kay since I was a child (for context, I'll be 32 this year). So, she's been in an MLM for a long, long time, but it's not her career or main job. It's literally a side thing.
My new favorite quote, “Overnight success takes years.”
I mean, she is right, what we see as overnight success usually does take years because we don’t see all the work before the success.
But in MLMs it just takes years without the success.
It is amazing how incredibly close she is to realizing that this is an awful job. Yet, she keeps trying to recruit others. Fascinating.
Shes probably able to recruit through her youtube
In my job we recently went to a partial-teleworking system, and the Director announced that we would have 2 compulsory days in the office. As she was talking she said that the reason is that she needed to be able to see everyone in person, and just out loud she said "you might say that then I should come in every day, but I diverge" to go on to explain that every one should come in the two same days she will, instead 😏 this felt like the same non-realisation. Needless to say I have changed branch since to avoid that specific director!!!!
@@Rechtauch My boss tried something similar a while ago. I work for the online section at my job, and my work happens entirely on the internet. Yet, at one point, he decided that the five of us who work exclusively online, should attend weekly meetings in person "because he wanted to see us". I was like, "And who do you think will be working while we are traveling an hour to and from the office for a 30-minute meeting 95 to 100 percent of which doesn't even concern us at all?" I really, really hate things that don't make sense, and I really, really hate to waste money with useless crap, like sitting in the car for an hour back and forth for a meeting that doesn't even concern me.
"And I look like this..." while still looking gorgeous.
Oh my gosh so sweet ❤️😂
I recently started watching her videos and I like her kind of GRWM videos
It’s a low bar, but she is actually the most honest Monat hun I’ve seen.
I agree!!
I feel this woman is genuine in her advice, which is overall very ethical and kind, and that means her situation will likely go one of two ways: she'll get seriously burned by this "business" or she'll amp up the delusion to cope and turn into a monster. That's the only way I can see this going for her, imo.
Right?? She seems so genuine and kind! I hope she can get out in the future 🙏🏼
Just because of the industry, I think the mental hoops will increase, and that's really sad. That's the nature of the cult, though. 😔
She'll leave or she will fail and think it's because she didn't have enough "positive thinking" to make it work out
Yes, it is truly sad and tragic - if she is a legit business owner she would be a good customer representative or great service provider and working with people. The wrong business model that is not built for sustainability. Shame shame shame.
@@HannahAlonzo I hope she can get out and use her skills in a real business one day.
"You can apply this to any network marketing company" but yet they all claim their companies are so different 😅
Gotta love the not so subtle Chanel bag in the background. To make it seem like she’s doing so well she can afford Chanel.
When in reality, she could have just bought a lipstick and asked for a large bag lol.
Ok I get the comment but common, it's honestly likely someone owns something from chanel. This brand is in nearly every major metropolitan city so it's not that difficult to purchase something from there. She said she's married, her husband seems supportive...he could have easily purchased her a christmas gift or something from there. There's a fine line between breaking down a video for fact and then commenting assumptions about people and trying to use something ( that someone is clearly proud of) against their character to put them down. I genuinely don't think this channel is about this and I think there needs to be a mindset shift with some of yall. This channel furthermore proves having a monat car doesnt make you rich BUT being jealous or seeing someone own something more pricey ALSO won't make anyone richer. No need to be bitter.
@@yanasopinion4580 I doubt she meant it in that way. I think she’s saying that someone in Monat could assume they can buy Chanel with Monat money. Also, people like to collect designer shopping bags. A lot of shops will give you a bag if you ask for one. The bag adds to the disillusion.
Actually, Alysebell1 isn’t far off. MLMs ENCOURAGE all of their “people” to show a lavishly lifestyle. So, that Chanel bag totally is there for the “join Monat and you’ll have a bag like this”
It’s also the weird placement of it. Why would you put a carrier bag there? Or keep it in the video? If it wasn’t a flex you’d be like, ooh I best get this shopping bag out of the way.
Huns please take notice that Hannah wasn’t filing from the dentists office “ I cAn wOrK fRoM aNyWhErE”
SO TRUE
She seriously needs to up her hustle!
"Why would I read a book?" That statement, right there, tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about the type of people they target the most.
Listened to this while building the kitchen table for the house I just bought with money from my *shudder* 9 to 5. This woman sounds so sweet that it makes me pretty sad to know she's been taken advantage of like this. You can achieve your goals without an mlm and there are jobs that will pay you well without crushing your soul or making you read abhorrent personal development books
Oh my gosh so funny! My husband just built a dining table this morning! 😂 and I totally agree, she sounds so kind and I’m bummed she got involved with Monat 😕
We still dont even have a kitchen table in our apartment 😅 but eventually we hope to get a home working a 9/5
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I'm not the only one? Yay!❤
Yup 🤣
@34:30 I absolutely love that she's basically admitted that the ones who have the most success, the "instant" success are the ones who come into the MLM with a network, with connections and with a big social media following BEFORE joining the MLM. This flies in the face of their usual selling point they use to recruit of "you don't need a huge social media following to make money! I only had X followers on IG/friends on FB and I made money". It's all so much BS.
This seems like one of the boss babes that genuinely believes in the business. Her advice is "good" and she seems to be very honest, which makes it more sad that she has been brainwashed.
Also thanks for another makeup get ready video, I actually love watching you do it 😅
Thanks Hannah!!
I personally love when you do your makeup during videos!
Girl we do not care if you have not had a head to toe make-over before you go on camera. I think most of us understand you are a real person with a real life and don't mind if you have to film early or without makeup or whatever. We are just so happy you're here entertaining us.
And that teacher is gonna be PAID for her work!!!!
Much of her advice is factual and appropriate. However, everything a recruit will hear from her upline’s upline, company propaganda, conventions etc, once they sign on, will directly contradict everything she’s saying. The business model is fundamentally flawed and whether it’s the classic obnoxious and toxic hun or a slightly spruced up version it’s still unsustainable.
So well put Debra!
Ooooh she must being doing so well. That Chanel bag behind her really shows me how good it could be. 🙄
😂😂😂
Right! Ups, it was there totally "by accident"!
I really hate how they work so hard to convince these people that anyone who is against the business model, is against them as a person. So any questions and they feel attacked. It's gross.
Also, while her advice is solid (out of the context of her shilling a scam) she could have said it in a _faaaaaaaar_ shorter timespan. Like, her video could have been 10 minutes, maybe 15 max. Tho given how long MLM team calls are this seemed to be some kind of tradition in the community.
Cognitive dissonance, my friend.
Yay, we love super long videos from you, Hannah!
I'm so glad! Thanks for watching!
LOL, the whole "you need to have a strong reason WHY you want to be in this business because it's REALLY HARD" is basically what they tell us in acting school... except we all go into it knowing we'll be poor for life XD
Objectively, this lady has some good advice. Thank you for translating for how this 'applies' to being in an MLM!
It’s so funny that she’d actually be a great business owner, but she’s stuck wasting her potential in this pyramid scheme.
Love that this girl thinks teachers need to go back and get their masters to be a principal. In most states you need a masters just to even /be/ teacher
Right 😂
Over an hour long? We love to see it! 🙌
Trying to incorporate more longer videos!
@@HannahAlonzo my favourite ones! Great to chill to and/or watch whilst working :)
This lady is a different type of boss babe and more concerning to me tbh- she is one of the most "hinged" mlm-er that I could see recruit many people on fence which is definitely a market worth targeting for them.
Yes EXACTLY! She is so well put-together that I think a lot of people might actually have a better chance of falling for it
@@HannahAlonzo she's the definition of catching more flies with honey. it's a lot easier to be recruited by her than by those who are screaming at you through a phone
Has anyone else heard of any other profession where "personal development" is pushed so hard? Literally any other where they tell you to consume _specific and singular_ types of media as literally part of your work, on the clock? Because I personally can't think of any and it always comes across as simply a cultish method to keep their members subservient since I'm sure if a "personal development book" told them to get tf out of an MLM they'd tell them to stop _that_ kind of personal development, aka critical thinking and free will.
Exactly. And then when you add that with all the other insane stuff that you don’t do at any other job and it’s baffling that they don’t see how there’s an issue
What's scary is that business coaches (non-network marketing coaches) peddle this. It's extremely common, and every coach I invested in (to grow my consultancy) talked about doing all this personal development stuff and didn't actually help with the real business development aspects.
Boss Babe culture has definitely infiltrated online business space.
@@catstickler Rachel Hollis is a perfect example 🙄
I didn’t support MLM but personal development is extremely important if you own a business. Marketing, good product, customer services are factors in increasing sales but other factors such as your own self, you as a person, mindset, that matters too. And that really impact results. Because business is about leadership. To become leader/employer you have to have qualities and not just regular qualities but leadership qualities. And these are polished and learn in the personal development/ self improvement class ☺️
@@kishyussof The "personal development" industry is full of people getting rich off of convincing you they know how to get rich. So much of those books and videos are complete bullshit and toxic positivity and promote a "one size fits all" approach to life which will never work because every individual is different, everyone has different life experiences, different mental and physical health problems, etc. That is why therapists can't write one book with all of the answers to solve everyone's health issues.
Sometimes some people will find something that really resonates with what they need and who they are and those are where you get the testimonials, but for most people self improvement media just serves to make them feel ashamed they aren't doing better.
"Washing your hair with Monat is different."
Yes, because there won't be much hair left when you're done!
But in all seriousness, even if it wasn't just an excuse to explain why it isn't working as promised ("you're hair is falling out because you're not using it right!"), I'm not going to use a product that's overly complicated. I am too lazy for that. If it has more steps than apply, lather, and rinse, I'm out. Products being sold to a general audience should generally easy to use.
Ha! Years ago, I worked at a call center that (among other things) handled the order line for a line of African-American skin care. I don’t remember the name of the guy who developed it, but as part of our training to take the orders for it, we watched the 30-minute infomercial (actually we watched several versions of it.)
What really exemplified this particular product line/routine was the use of ice cubes. The infomercial started with the actor getting a bowl of ice cubes from the freezer. Then they rubbed an ice cube all over their face. Then they splashed water. Then they applied the cleansing cream. Then they rinsed, and rubbed another ice cube. Then toner. Then ice cube. Then spot treatment. Then ice cube. Then pre/moisturizer. Then ice cube. Then moisturizer.
That was the night routine; the morning routine included filling the ice cube bowl with water and dunking the face in it. before the final moisturizer.
The dude who developed this routine was really puzzled and annoyed that his sales weren’t higher, and we (and our management) were like, “Dude, what did you expect? Your system is like $200 and requires half an hour twice a day plus an entire freezer-full of ice cubes. It’s ridiculous. People see that huge long process and just nope right out of there.”
I got friend suckered into buying Monat once. My hair did great with my first free sample and the bought ones…nightmare! Hair did fall out, tho not drastic. The main thing is it smelled horrible! I couldn’t put my finger on it. And then my husband would hug me or snuggle and say, “babe your hair smells like cat piss!” THAT was it! The horrible smell. It DID smell litter box’ish. It felt so rough and seemed matted up. Trust me, having long, super thick, frizzy, curly, red hair- you certainly don’t want what this shampoo and conditioner offered .i also got the usual “yoire not doing it right”
From multiple reps. I’ve been washing my hair for 30+ yrs, I’ve somehow managed hair washing in that time.
Edited to add: I also got the oil and it honestly worked, but didn’t smell great (not as strong as shampoo and conditioner) and way overpriced. I recently bought an awesome $7 one at Walmart. I’ve also got big named ones from Ulta or whatever STILL less than $20
@@dqverify6797 that is absolutely hilarious 😂
I feel like most of her advice is solid...out of context of an MLM. That's the scary thing when they have kernels of truth in what they say that would be applicable in other circumstances.
Yes ABSOLUTELY! I agree with nearly everything she said, except not when you apply to to an MLM 😂
I teach in public schools (Western Canada) and I have no desire to be a principal. The going salary for a high school principal in my district is about $150,000, but they are first at the school, last to leave, and they have to be at every school event, not to mention district meetings. Basically, they have no life outside of work. I am happy to be able to actually go home and not worry about some emergency that needs to be resolved at 5 a.m.
If you're a principal and you like it, I respect the role. It's not my preference for my career.
Completely agree with you!
My mother-in-law was an elementary school principal for 30 years. And yep, that sounds about right. The SMILE on her face every August and September after she’d retired? Hilarious 😂, and very understandable.
Does anybody else find it suuuper relaxing to watch Hannah put on her makeup? I also stole some tips! 😁
"I found so much time in my day [...] I get up at 5 am." My educated guess would be she found more time by being sleep deprived.
Tbh, I think she has a point there. I get up at 6:30 and I get so much more done than when I got up at 8, simply because I work better in the morning and don’t like to do anything stressful after dinner, but I don’t sleep less than I used to. I only hope that’s true in her case, too.
About the part on consistency: do huns actually think people get upset or disappointed when they’re not shilling their MLM products 24/7? 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve been watching your videos everyday! I’m just mesmerized by these people that join these things! I subscribed today because I love your sincere and kind words about the people and save your distaste for the actual companies. And you know your stuff! You’re going to do great.10k subscribers is just the beginning, you are very likable!
Not related but I'm totally envious that you can get your lashes on in 30 seconds 🤣 great video and awesome points made per usual! I'm very happy to see your channel continue to grow
Too funny! I was a college dancer for 4 years and had to put lashes on 2-3 times a week, I’ve had too much practice 😂😂
@@HannahAlonzo So the answer is practice? Daggonnit, I was really hoping for a miracle lolsob 😭😭. Hope you’re feeling better from the root canal. Those things are no joke!
Thank you! Yes feeling much better!
Just takes practice
Oh girl!!!! I've been to the dentist 5-6 times this year alone. Between fillings, cleanings and a root canal. I'm over it!!! Over it! 😂😂 and definitely feel your pain. Hope your tooth is feeling much better. 💖 I'm sure I'll be back to comment again after the video 😂
Yes you feel me!!! I moved to FL in July and I’ve been to the dentist 6 TIMES since then 😂 so over it
@@HannahAlonzo omg girl!! I hate that someone feels my pain, but it also makes me feel better 😂 My last thing is getting my wisdom teeth out, but I'm waiting until next year for that.
I got my wisdom teeth out already and honestly, I would rather do that then a filling/root canal. At least they knock you out and you wake up when it’s over 😂
@@HannahAlonzo That makes me feel better because I've been soooo nervous.
I hear ya. I didn't go to the dentist for over a decade, and needed a lot of work done due to poor personal hygiene.
Cavities on multiple teeth, fillings, extensive cleanings due to gingivitis. It was a lengthy process.
I am glad I am not the only lazy beauty blender user haha. I definitely do the swipe here and there. Who has time to just tap, tap tap?!
“You *will* hear No. You are going to face rejection, people who are rude, etc…” Anybody want to bet that she didn’t say this to anyone *before* they signed up? Before they sign up, it’s all, “it sells itself! People will be falling all over themselves to throw money at you!” Then after, it’s suddenly, “Oh, yeah, you’ll get lots of rejection.”
"CULT! CULT! CULT" 🤣 love you Hannah! 😄
Besides how much people make, the only other thing needed to be said to recruits is that almost no money is made from product sales, it’s from recruiting, and that no one can rank up without recruiting. That’ll get a lot of people to not want to join any mlm. A lot of people would rather sell the products instead of selling the mlm lifestyle. To me, selling the mlm lifestyle seems harder ‘cause it seems more like bragging or flaunting. That’s if the products the seller has to sell are good products that aren’t overpriced than the average pricey competitors that most people know about. So I guess in a mlm, selling the lifestyle is easier.
Can I mention the fact, that you look gorgeous with or without makeup?!?
I love your videos, I binge watching them while doing my everyday chores, and I (you, actually) also made my boyfriend addicted to your content as well!
Keep up the good work, you’re amazing! ❤
Haven’t even started watching and I’m already so excited for another hour + video! Love your content ❤️
It’s so nice seeing some on UA-cam without make up on! You still look amazing but it’s so refreshing! X
Wait, are they getting paid for their mindset now? If it's 85% of your job you'd think that would be what you get paid for no?
OMG 💀😂
The phrase giving birth to a hater is so funny
Thanks for showing me how to put on lashes. 😂
I tried taking a shot every time she said "this business" but I will be in a coma by the next video you upload if I actually do it for the whole video
WRECKED
@@HannahAlonzo I am now taking shots of apple juice, I’m back! 😂😂😂
So sorry about your surprise root canal! Hope you start to feel better soon!
Thank you! Took a couple of days but I’m definitely feeling better now!
I need to start turning off my phone whenever I reach for my Kindle 😂 because now I have this over an hour video I can't look away from 👀
Oh my gosh how funny! You have my permission to do some wholesome reading rather than watching my video 😂
Literally watching anti-MLM stuff and then I see a fb post from my niece that says "people really be risking having unprotected sex, but won't risk starting their own business" ..... I can't.
Send her a couple of Hannah's shorts 😂😂
Lol I've had a lot of circumstances change for me including being homeless and sleeping on concrete sidewalks...and never thought not FOR ONE SECOND about joining an MLM
I have a playlist of anti mlm grwm so I can laugh and do my makeup if I'm needing a boost of funny or rage cringe.
Oh my gosh I LOVE this!
Hey congratulations on 10,000 subs!!!! You my friend are on fire!!!!!! Well deserved!!!! Bravo!!!!!
Aww thank you!! I’m so excited!
"Don't make false promises about what is possible" but has a giant Chanel bag in the back corner
what she says: "stop comparing yourself to others! it's toxic!"
what she means: "don't share incomes or wonder how the rich people got to be so rich when you are working the same amount! we can't have people knowing it's unfair!"
Another great video 👍 you break things down so well. It's hard because companies, especially Monat, try to control the info you receive from the outside world, but I hope someone finds this first before they sign up.
Thank you Lizzie! ❤️
This is the type of upline I had. They said to stay in for at least 2 years before quitting because it takes time to build. This type of “realistic” training is definitely more dangerous AND more disappointing when you get to the end of 2, 3 or 4 years and have tried absolutely everything to make it work, yet you still only have your mom, grandma and sister in your down line who have never bought another thing since joining. They tell you if you’re not growing it’s your fault for not selling it well but it’s also your friends’/family’s fault for not believing in the product….. people like this kill with kindness. It’s worse than someone who’s yelling and mean bc you really don’t see it coming until way down the line after all the emotional damage is done. I’m having to undo a lot mentally and emotionally from this evil business model.
Taking it personally is the first rule of being in a mlm. Huns will defend the mlm they're in as though it is their first born child.
you and I had the same exact reaction to when she said that the products may not work for everybody hahahaha
She knows! This girl knows! That's scarier
No makeup so what! You’re beautiful from the inside and it shines so bright that you don’t need makeup ❤
I have to say, being a female engineer, I was still accused of going to college to get my MRS, so in a way I did have to defend it. Something she does is say "I'm going to be honest with you," I do not know if it's due to the toxic people in my life, but if you need to tell me you're being honest, chances are you're hiding something.
She preaches to lie by omission instead of lie blatantly lol.
Kinda like telling them to stab you in the front rather than stab you in the back. I guess its more polite.
You just said something at 56:58 that helped me (besides everything else - LOL), about keeping our noses in the self help books, and with the people on the team, the uplines, etc. -- and it was that if we keep ourselves drenched in those things, it takes longer to realize MLMs are a scam. I have been trying desperately to figure out why I was involved in so many for so many years, and with all the self help stuff and the "team" -- THAT'S what it was. It's not because I was so dumb! THANK YOU!
NOT at all because of you! ❤️ It’s all the self-development stuff for sure
@@HannahAlonzo Thank you!!!!
Imagine having a job where people are going to think you're crazy.
I think her comments about choosing an upline that cares are very telling. I'm sure a lot of her advise stems from things she experienced when she started the "business". I really hope she get's out before she is too brainwashed.
BTW, I love your videos Hannah. I'm binge watching for the last few days.
Oh mama! I had a root canal last year. It should have been an emergemcy/urgent root canal, but it was mid-covid and all the dentists and endodontists had limited appointments. Several weeks later I got in. Those were the most agonizing weeks of my life. I'm so glad you got in quick!
I am glad too! The timing worked out perfect even though it was last minute!
and nothing weird and glitchy is happening, success!!
Yay this is such good news!!
I listen to these videos as a podcast while I study, and I just suddenly heard Hannah going "cult cult cult!" and I died laughing! I walk around my house listening to these videos going "ding ding ding, cult! Ding ding ding, cult!" so Hannah doing the same thing made me laugh. Thank you Hannah!
I have that same gloss .. I love it .. I wish I could do makeup like you . So talented. I think you should always do a GRWM with the MLM content.. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Let me tell you how excited I was when I saw the time on this video.. I hope you do more LONG videos.. I am obsessed with your content.. ❤️❤️👍🏽
I love how there is a perfectly placed Chanel bag behind her, in near full view, with a pretty white bow on it. She’s trying to be honest, but I feel she’s flaunting a bit in this video as well to attract new recruits
The contradictions are unreal
As for the relationship building part, I think that some businesses thrive with that without being scammy. It's less about being friends with people and more about networking.
For me, that's how I've been able to include speaking on stages and in schools and doing live workshops in different nonprofits. And it led to meeting people who ended up becoming clients who I never would've met.
I just wanted to chime in and make that distinction because legitimate service-based businesses can thrive through relationship marketing tactics.
But again, just because it works for a legitimate business, it doesn't mean it's valid for network marketing.
4:19 " .. Apply it to any MLM.. " She says it so herself!! 😮
Listening to this as i fit out my huge new workshop for my small business that turns over nearly $1mil and we only just moved out of a room of our house..
I actually cannot believe that just 3 years ago my business was very part time and i was dabbling in MLM in case my business didn't work out...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's amazing!!
Honesty, I really like this lady and wish she could put all of these great pieces of advice into legitimate businesses or something else. It is good to be honest, have realistic expectations, be consistent, have time management skills, and be willing to learn. All those things are great for living a full life. Even me, “just” a stay at home mom and part time piano teacher. I need all those skills! I’m encouraged by her, just not to be in an MLM. 🤭
Very insightful video. :)
Now we need a sound bite of " cult,cult,cult" with Zeeks meow at the end.
24:25 i was just WAITING for her to pull out that "comparison is the death of joy" quote that rachel hollis loved to pass off as her own. (although "comparison is the death/thief of joy" is a quote that's been attributed to several different people in several different configurations, with theodore roosevelt, mark twain, and c.s. lewis being among those names.)
Omg that eye roll. Iconic!!!🤣
An hour long video? Yeeees!
Woohoo!!
You help people by becoming a nurse, you inspire people by becoming a motivational speaker. You DO NOT help and inspire people by joining an MLM
It didn't even occur to me that teachers become principals? For some reason I thought those were different career paths
You typically need teaching experience if you are going to be a principal, but not every teacher desires to be a principal. SO much responsibility!
Most principals are former teachers I would say a high majority
I am self employed, and I do actually take time off whenever I need/want it. I have some disabilities that keep me from being as consistent as I'd like to be. I'm still somehow making money... hmm... must be that products really do sell themselves!
But I do feel like it's important to see the source, why huns feel like they have to work 24/7. If a grocery store loses one customer one day, it won't matter, but a hun can't afford not to answer the message immediately and risk losing a lead
Edit: PS. Feel you, I have a same kind of thing, work-ability and day-off-wise
She’s so close. SO CLOSE.
36:48 I used to be in an MLM (well, a few of them) and I always thought the "know your why" was strange. Dude, everyone needs a job. Adults pay bills. That's why ANYONE wants to work. Why do you need my "why?"
An hour long video? Fuck yeah I'm so here for it.
Update: I fell asleep and now I have to rewatch it lol
i really like this woman and her personality. Whenever I see reps like this I'm like "I wish she'd start her own business for real!"
Hope you are feeling a lot better now ☺️
I am, thank you so much!
I have a few questions for her. If she makes $13,000 per YEAR, I assume this is before taxes. So it’s less than $1,000 per month. OK, here are my questions: who pays for your house?? You mentioned a basement; so I am deducing you live in a house. It could be a condo. Regardless, who pays for that? Who pays for your cute sweater in this video?? Who pays for your cute lace top underneath?? Jewelry?? Who pays for your Chanel bag?? Who pays for your utilities?? Who pays for your health insurance, if you have that?? Who pays for the gym equipment in the basement?? What about children?? I could go on, but I think I made the point that she is advertising a hobby at best. A hobby she can afford because somewhere else there is a source of income paying the bills as well as the little luxuries. Hannah, I love your personality, your intelligence, and your kitties!!!! 🥰🥰🥰
Love the makeup look 👀.. so beautiful 🤩
Thanks so much!
Hannah could you PLEASE deep dive on Lime life & Scentcy.. please these huns on Facebook are driving me CRAZY with their stupid posts .. ugh 😩 HELP I need to post and debunk these HUNS..
The first point she made about not giving false promises about "how easy it is"... I DARE her to bring this up with the higher ups in Monat. They're the ones teaching these women to do this, remember?
I would love to see these huns resume.. lol do they put Monat - Market partner - duties - scam ppl to join ..
Ok yes I am late to the game with this comment but, we love a GRWM while debunking the MLM lies.
Makeup on pointttttt!!!
Sadly even though I have worked in the call center world for over 16 years with legit companies, I still have to convince some people of the validity of my work. Granted I don't have to convince people my job isn't a scam.... My point is there are legit (read not MLM scams) out there that still get shit on for existing. It's draining honestly.
54:40 as an artist who once considered becoming a teacher: I have to defend my decision to go to the Academy of Fine Arts a l l the time.
People always say that painting some pictures is not a real official job like being a doctor or a lawyer, and that I will never make any money out of it :')
Regarding the question of do people stick in MLMs for long periods of time, I put forth that they do, BUT those folks don't see it as a career move. Case in point, my aunt has been a part of Mary Kay since I was a child (for context, I'll be 32 this year). So, she's been in an MLM for a long, long time, but it's not her career or main job. It's literally a side thing.
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