2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel takes on the Extreme Ike Gauntlet Towing Review
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- The 2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel is finally here and ready to tackle the mighty Ike Gauntlet towing challenge.
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The truck was made to fit between a 1500 and 2500, it doesn't need an exhaust brake. I think the purpose was to be more efficient at towing smaller loads with the option to pull bigger loads with no issues. Just my opinion.
its meant to be an in between model, more heavy duty than a half ton, but less than a 3/4.
Considering the 1/4 ton Colorado diesel comes with an exhaust brake...
It needs a trailer weight of 10k and it needed a trailer brake needed a plug inside the bed for trailers and it needs to be in a price range of 50k all day along with a 35 gallon tank and 7 gallon def so almost 600 miles and towing the 6500 lbs you can get 300 miles on a tank
I think you give Nissan too much credit. Personally I think they didn't bother to think at all and just half ass threw some parts together that add up to a whole lot of uselessness.
Jim Featherstone...I think that might be what he just said. But maybe 1500 and 2500 means something else.
I just think the trailers in the states are insane. I'm from Ireland and the biggest trailers we'd put behind a truck like this is about 16 foot long.. These truck trailer combos look amazing.
In the US we pride ourselves on the length of our trailers and our dicks.
@@anthonynelson9136 they have an inverse relationship.....
Well to be fair Ireland is a tiny island nation while the USA is about the size of a continent.
Freedom is insane, indeed.
IRA or No Way
Just got a '17 XD Cummins and it beats both my old 3.5 EB and 5.0 Coyote on fuel milage. I'm happy with that.
Yeah but your paying $1-2 more a gallon for diesel fuel.
Got an XD S model. This thing is a beast. Took it hunting in north idaho mountain logging trails last October and it handled it like a champ. You can keep your lumber wagon 3/4 trucks, they ride like a steaming pile. The XD rides like a 1/2 ton, pulls like a 3/4 ton and is super spacious for all my gear and crew. Awesome value! I am really impressed with the V8 turbo diesel and Asin tranny. The brakes are simply awesome at full load coming down a 7% grade! Sianara Chevy, Ford, Ram hello Nissan XD.
Totally agree, love my Pro-4X!
Titan XD is heavier duty version of 1/2 tons
Nils Johansson...You can tell just by the free advertising you’re doing for Nissan you’re one of the poor bastards that spent a relatively large amount on something your wife’s midsize suv will out tow. I’m sure they are just fine off road by themselves, but who gives a shit? And you know that bumpy (solid) feeling you are describing...yep I feel it everyday in my F350 just incase I needed reminding it is a real and capable truck. Come to think of it, all of my one tons have been that way, no matter which brand.... boggles the mind huh.
@@specforged5651 does your Ford have enough room for you and your boyfriend's purse?
Erik Dale...Good One. Typical of someone who can’t and will never admit they screwed up.
Nissan trucks are simple, easy to fix and very reliable. They cruise on the freeway the best of all of the half ton trucks. I've owned them all.
This an old post but those who watch this, the aisin transmission works like the ford. You in tow haul mode you touch the brake and it downshifts and holds it. Also on the gear shift you can manually down shift
I enjoy your videos. It is real reviews and not some sponsored crap saying that it is "good". Keep up the good work guys!
Thank you.
4:25 This is one of the most amazingly well thought out ideas I've ever seen, for a consumer base who doesn't even realize if their high beams are on, if their headlights are on at all. Doug Demuro needs to see this.
I love the idea of adjustable headlights on trucks. They should all come with this feature as standard. European cars had this as a feature in the late 80's and early 90's with projector beam headlights. No idea why American manufacturers haven't adopted this yet. Even today, brand new Chevy, Ford, Ram, and Toyota trucks will blind you with their low beams when they are towing even a moderate load or have just a couple hundred pounds in the bed. It is insane that the manufacturers don't put more effort into this safety aspect of their trucks.
Demuro reviewed the XD but he spent his time making fun of the location of the upshift/downshift. 🙄 He should stick to reviewing sports cars. Lately he became lazy and doesnt do the sports cars well neither. His early reviews are better.
I just bought a Titan XD diesel after watching your reviews. Sure the payload and towing capacity is similar to most modern half tons but it is a MUCH MUCH more stable towing platform than a 1/2 ton. Pulling my camper with an F150 in any sort of a cross wind was a little nerve racking resulting in some sway. Went to an F250, much better (obviously) but for a daily driver it was way to thirsty and rough riding. The Titan XD that I have now seems to be the sweet spot. Rides really nice (better than my wife's Rogue in some ways), gets "quasi" reasonable fuel economy empty (I've seen 22 mpg), and is very stable pulling.
This is my issue. My ecoboost has the power and brakes for my trailer, but it isn’t the most pleasant towing experience. I was looking at some 2500s, but the XDs are half the price in some cases. I’m considering one
How’s the power of the xd feel?
@@DoubleTap702 I don't have any complaints pulling my camper. Coming home through the taconite range of the UP of Michigan it dropped to 3rd gear maybe twice but never really struggled for power.
@@DoubleTap702I’m really thinking about buying an XD. Did you end up getting one?
@@MrFavre4ever4 nah I’m a little hesitant with all of the issues I’ve been seeing with the 5.0 Cummins
Finally were able to test this XD on the Ike Gauntlet as many truck guys were waiting for. Great Job again to all you guys. The payload is much less than the F150. For a 5/8's ton truck you would think that the payload and towing capacity would be a little higher. I think the only benefit of this truck would be maybe, having a stable platform while towing 11,500 lbs and maybe having the longevity of a diesel. But given its a diesel, maintenance, repair, and upkeep costs will be more than the average 1/2 ton gas truck. For $60,000, many diesel owners may opt to invest in a 3/4 ton with much more capability.
Y'all getting better and better!
Impressive performance! I believe that to be able to stop is as important as the ability to go. Particularly when going downhill.
Jason Carpp,
I'd say...More so !
Glad to see a cummins can pull a gooseneck with 2 wheelers and 5 cinder blocks lol 😂
2wheelers?
@@toyota420xp pull a 25K tandem axel duals gooseneck with 4wheelers
Can't wait to see the Tesla Model X towing its max 5,000lb load up the Ike! I'm super curious to see how it does. On the downhill it uses regenerative braking that should be better than normal engine braking.
Agreed! Tesla is a very interesting company. I look forward to seeing how they change the auto industry.
I didn't expect that truck to do well I'm somewhat impressed it did as good as it did
I don't think it did any better then the other trucks tbh. Other midsize trucks are still worlds ahead to me.
Why don't you use the same trailers for all of your tests? You let some trucks tow closed, rectangular trailers with water reservoirs inside while others tow open trailers with a car or ATVS on it. Design of the trailer affects the drag coefficient a lot and on a 10 minute uphill run at 60MP/h it will have a significant effect on the final results
+Demetre Gvaramia I actually agree on this one. Standard closed trailers would make a little more sense, while this is more real world, its not consistent.
As a Nissan Dealer I am excited for this truck to show up. I really feel like Nissan isnt playing all their cards on their first hand. It seems as though they have used components that are more than capable of providing higher payload and towing numbers, and have under-rated the truck for the first year.
Kind of like how Ram has a 3500 w/ Aisin that tows 30,000 lbs with 850 lb ft of torque. They change NOTHING but some engine tuning when ford goes up a notch, and boom, now it tows 31,500 with 900 lb ft of torque.
Same tranny, same diff, same engine, same exhaust brake, same frame, brakes....
agree
We agree that a similar trailer would be correct. Air flow really makes a difference.
Its the down fall of this channel and it would be nice if they got the numbers from all trucks and ran same weight that pushes the limits to all trucks like 5k for midsized 8500 for halfton 14k for diesels and 30k for the 3500s
Exactly. The flatbed was kinda cheating. It did have 8 tires though as opposed to the usual four for more rolling resistance.
Thanks guys! I've been looking forward to this! that's one nice truck
@The Fast Lane Truck:
First of all - thanks for all the fun videos.
I want to note though, that I absolutely don't see the point in a scoring system that comes down to one number. Considering the fact that "good" or "bad", suitable or not depend to a very big extend on the NEEDS of the user, this "one number" doesn't make sense at all. Especially not, since we are talking about very (!) expensive gear. Don't try to make something complex easy, if it simply is NOT. You will fail. If it would be that easy, there would be only be one truck for sale right now.
Break it down into sections, show what the strong and weak points of the vehicles are, that way, you give the users some orientation what trucks COULD be suitable for their specific needs. If you can make that happen, this would be a great contribution indeed! Thanks! :)
Thank you for the detailed feedback!
Thank you guys for posting the Ike Gauntlet video for the 2016 Nissan Titan. I was waiting for this! Great job! P.S. Is it possible that a new video can be produced when the Nissan Titan arrives with the 390 horsepower/401 lb-ft of Endurance 5.6 liter-V8 Endurance engine?
I agree. Ive watched the Ike Gauntlet episodes before, and was also looking foward to the new Nissan Titan XD. Then they started this new point system and did nothing for me...
+NameNaameNameeNaamee Agreed a trucks strengths and weaknesses are whats important. Everybody has their reasons for why they bought their truck. The point system over complicates everything...
+NameNaameNameeNaamee Look, when it comes to the crunch, all trucks are useless piles of junk. The new points system may very well be pointless, but so are the bloody trucks. I consider this video to be another excellent example of TFL's wicked sense of humour. 😆😈
everyone wants to trash the Titan XD for not being as powerful as the 3/4 ton trucks... but you people don't realize, this ISN'T a 3/4 ton truck! its a 5/8 ton truck, its more like a 1/2 ton with extra capacity than a mini 3/4 ton.
If the max payload is 1700 some pounds, it's a 3/4 ton truck.
@@wyattlarrick3246 my 2016 f150 has a payload capacity of 1894lbs and it's a half ton...
@@wyattlarrick3246 Says who?
That's a hell of a truck my dream truck I drive the old gen le Titan
Another great video guys. Thank you for using the goose neck trailer loaded to the maximum towing capacity of the truck. So since this truck is in its own category, what will it compete against in the Golden Hitch award?
I will say this. For all the people saying you can get a 2500 (or 250) U.S. version for less money that pulls more, that truck will be a mildly equipped 4X2 version & probably a previous model year if it is a diesel. A well equipped 1500 Chevy Silverado 4X4 with a gas V8 is in the $50k-$60k range. This is a well equipped 1/2 ton HD with a diesel for the same price. So many people say this truck should be in the mid $30k range. Mid $30k is what you will pay for a well equipped Honda Accord with a 4cyl in 2016. I'm assuming none of you have bought a truck since 2005 when my dad paid $40k for his 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 CUMMINS dually at dealer cost. & his truck is mildly equipped & was one of the last 2005's left late in 2006. I urge you all to go look at new trucks & see what works for you. Most of you will be disappointed at what you find. Also, most U.S. based manufactures build their trucks in Mexico or overseas these days. This truck was built in the U.S.
Was driving to my parents cottage going about 15 over on an 80km/h road in the country, see a bright yellow cummins titan in my rear view mirror towing something. Kept my eye on it the whole time. It caught me and overtook me like nothing. Didn’t see him after that. Kinda cool honestly.
So been waiting on this video. Wish you did a bumper pull trailer though like previous vehicle tests.
Mr. Truck makes the same "Fast Lane" joke every Towing review. I love it lol
No decibel meter? If you're doing more thorough tests I think noise level should be included
I agree on the decibel meter, also this new point system will fail.
+bwilliamstown they did decibel meter in previous video
+NIGHTMAREuki They did however it was not during towing like they did with other vehicles.
+bwilliamstown Exactly! More solid facts! Less numbers from a potential flawed scoring system! We want consistency!
Decibel meter is an arguable test, because you need different types, for different environments. For example, using a standard ambient noise meter, will be a totally different measurement, for the same sound, going outdoor to indoor. When you measure inside of a vehicle, you want to measure the changes in atmospheric pressure and not the ambient noise itself, for an accurate reading, which is why dbdra doesn't use ambient noise meters and uses sound pressure level meters.
So I love your videos. This is my second time ever commenting on a UA-cam video. My question if your only towing 10,200 pounds why didn't you use the enclosed trailer? You did a overweight video before with it loaded to 10k pounds with other trucks. By using the gooseneck in this test you gave the titan a huge advantage because there is significantly less drag on the trailer. This in turn is giving the titan significantly better numbers. Just wondering trying to figure out a reason this was done. Thanks for the great videos
Just watched this today for the first time. This XD cost $58,000 when it came out and it had the 360 birdseye view cameras even way back then! Honestly I think these were good/cool trucks. I would just get a newer model because supposedly they remedied the crankshaft issues of the earlier trucks.
Really like your new rating system and data on website Thank you for your hard work.
$58,000??? Thats crazy!!! I can get a new 2016 GMC Sierra 2500 with a higher payload and towing capacity for 1 grand less. Not to mention you get more torque and HP from the duramax
And crappier ride quality and less equppied
+781luis you can get a leftover 2015 model denali $57k brand new. 7k gor knocked off the sticker. As for comfort, it goes for all trucks, lest weight you have in the back the worst it is
+781luis , i am a big fan of japanese cars; consequently, i love the idea of diesel titans and Hino diesel tundras. However, after having owned a duramax, i don't think it is much of a crappy ride. Also, the day i drove my boss's denaly duramax with cooled seats, i realized that life would be better if obama gave us all one of them.
+Wellington Cifuentes well a Duramax is an Isuzu engine built by GM using GM parts
+Frank Magana same applies for the Ram 2500 Cummins 6.7. more of everything for same price and fuel economy. Ram has exhaust brake included, which would be an expensive add-on to the XD. and Ram has the air suspension option. This XD hauls about the same mass as other 1/2T trucks. Nissan needs to drop its price by $12k to be really competitive. If Chevy offers a 4.5L Duramax for the 1500 models, this could beat the XD in all respects. the truck market is interesting now !
Epic! I have been waiting for this review for a long time. I'm sold! When do you think you'll get a chance to work with the 5.6L?
I see all these hate comments but people don't understand all the other options with the XD other than the engine. HD chassis, HD bed, good neck hitch standard, ECT....
i can't see paying 58k for this truck. i just paid 53k for a GMC sierra 2500hd with duramax
Handsome B Wonderful I wish I lived where you do. The most basic 2500 with the Duramax is $65,000 new here (Canadian $$), a new SLE 2500 with the 6.6 is around $75,000. This truck with these options is $72,000. A fully loaded 2500 Denali is $95,000 here. This is all MSRP pricing though so you can take about 10% off all those to be realistic.
Handsome B Wonderful Here it is 2020 and I found several low mileage ones for half price! Two with clean Carfax too.
Do you plan on comparing this vehicle with half ton models or HD models? I thought the milage was right in line with the 2016 Silverado 6.2L V-8. I'm quite impressed with the Chevy's style, performance and comfort. The near $60K price on both is a bit of a downer though.
I'm back and forth, I'd like a half ton, but when you throw an atv in the back, tow a modest trailer it's totally maxed out. The titan with the diesel, would be a bit more than what I need but do what I want it to do. I have no use for a 2500 class personally. augh such a tough choice when looking.
Honestly the 1/2 tons don't sound too capable but the can do anything you need for a normal person. I've had 1500+ pounds in the bed of my ram 1500 no problem.
C Steele I've seen some half tons towing well over 15,000 pounds. just because they are rates at a number doesn't mean they won't get the job done.
James Cundiff I agree but its a safety thing as well. get pulled over, and you'l be towed :(
C Steele never really thought about that. but of course us floridians don't give a shit about safety down here lol
James Cundiff lmfao there are no rules in florida
So Yeah...... I guess I'll wait so NISSAN can improve on the later models to come , but for now I'll stick to my gas 2015 Pro 4x thanks guys ! Again love the real test you guys do to all these trucks that us consumer can relate too.
Lol 😂 damn how y’all gonna play Andre like that? That was straight savage of the both of you to body shame him that way.
Nice video. I would have liked to see more of the uphill pull, especially from a stop. Those parts were removed. Also, I'm disappointed in the payload on the Titan, only 1700 lbs! Ford and Chevy half ton max tow are 2000+ lbs. With a 5/8 truck, I would expect a 2000-3000 lb capacity. This truck is a huge disappointment. Why not just go 3/4 ton?
They weren't even near the max payload...straight from nissans press release max payload is 2,091lbs. And max towing capacity is 12,314lbs.
+yashasan83 I don't know the exact specs, was just quoting what they said "as configured"
2091lbs and 12,341lbs are for the lighter, single cab configurations. The heavier crew cab models have lower ratings.
yeah, you're right.
yeah, you're right.
Love the gauntlet series, one wish if you could load towing to 75% of capability for each truck thus getting best results for each truck. If one truck with less capability takes a test at 100% and another at 80% it messes the mpg real world numbers because owners wouldn't max out capability.
TAKE OFF ROAD!!! u guys have the video already!
Let's see the new raptor tow 🤤 I'm very interested with this question
i have a suggestion, try to run all trucks with the same load and same trailer or as close as possible. this way it will be easier to compare performance. Pick like 10,000lbs with 1500 tongue weight and just use it over and over. Also this video seems to be rushed/too short compared to other Ike Runs. Could you run Titan again with regular trailer?
Another great video
Hi TFLtruck, will you be using the same trailer and load to test 3/4 ton diesels too? I know normally, tests on 3/4 tons are done closer to their max trailer weight, but that doesn't offer a good way to compare it's capability or fuel economy. I'd love to see if a 6.7 gets better or worse fuel economy pulling the same load as that Titan.
Keep on rolling out the Cummins videos!
I love my RAM 2500 Cummins Cummins diesel engines are amazing I know that the inline Ram engine is an engine you can buy for many trucks generators and all kinds of vehicles this new v8 for Nissan is a Pacific engine for them this engine was brought to dodge first that did not meet the requirements but I love to see Cummins engines in other vehicles you will see this a lot more because no one can build a good diesel engine it's not about power it's about reliability and this new Nissan has got the right idea
All these issues can be solved in the next few years if they can manage to sell these vehicles. I was impressed with the 50-55k price range loaded compared to the 60-70k f250s.
I just bought a '17 Pro-4X Cummins with 40K miles for $42K. F250's and 2500 Duramaxes similarly equipped with over 100K miles are going for over $50K!!
This truck is outclassed by the F 150 3.5eco. It's not even close.
What a disappointment. In my personal opinion, Nissan really missed the mark with this truck. I've been saying this long before the test too. I hope Nissan learns from their mistakes with the release of this and the next couple of versions are what this 'should' have been.
+Mel Laknanurak how did they miss the mark with original TItan?
why didn't it compete?
+NIGHTMAREuki are you serious? The titan and tundra are simply outdated.
+NoDak Outdoor Addicts outdated yes, but it was one if the best when it came out
+Mel Laknanurak It competed well, and is still a solid choice. The 5.6 was a great engine back in the day, and it will still give new offerings a good fight.
i just want to see an f150 with the 5.0
We are working to get this truck. However, Ford does not have one to give to us or does not want us to test one.
The Fast Lane Truck aw man. Will you be doing anymore large suvs
+The Fast Lane Truck can you use this setup for other towing test
+dylan bukovsky seeing a 5.0 would be nice
It would definitely be behind the Titan to the top but I guarantee the ecoboost would stomp it as the last gen ecoboost did it over a minute quicker...
Feel so bad for that poor goose-neck being UNDER-USED like that
Saddest part is - the trailer alone already weighs dam near 7000 lbs. so it couldn't even handle a STUFFED TEDDY BEAR over what's already loaded with those 4wheelers and blocks given the Titan's towing limits😩😵
When will you guys take the GMC Canyon Duramax up the ike? Or at least a standard towing review on it? Very curious about how it's going to do.
We plan to do it soon. However, we don't have a date yet.
+The Fast Lane Truck
Will you be doing a real world mpg as well as the Ike gauntlet? Cause most of us don't have mountain type terrain to deal with.
John Mozingo. Who’s most?
I used to have a 2002 F-250 4x4 with 7.3 diesel. 260 hp and 525 torque. The new titan, 310 hp and 555 torque. My truck weighed 7000 lbs, this truck weighs over 7000 lbs. I had a programmer that added 50-100 hp (depending on settings) and it was rated to tow 12,500 lbs. The new titan is rated at 12,000 lbs. My truck was a 4 door crew cab, so is this truck. The way I see it, this is just a slightly more efficient, more technologically advanced version of that truck. Seems like they didn't shoot for the stars yet barely got off the ground. Nissan does such a good job with their Infiniti line of SUV's (my wife loves her JX35) yet the trucks are underwhelming.
Don Olypopper I am comparing a new truck to a truck that is 16 years old. This isn't the first Titan though either. I don't know what Toyota has to do with it either, I didn't mention Toyota. I have seen a few long term reviews and they were less than favorable. Poor fuel mileage (14 mpg combined +/-) and reliability problems (multiple trips to dealer under warranty during 1 year review). My point is this, its a 7,000 pound "heavy duty half-ton" truck with only 310 hp and 555 torque. That is almost identical power output and weight to the old truck I had. For the technology modern car companies have today it should be a stronger performing truck. I was thinking about trading in my '14 Tundra but that isn't going to happen now. It is slower than other half tons, doesn't pull that much, and has lower fuel mileage than gas trucks.
I agree. I went from an 03 2500 5.9 Cummins with a tuner on it to a 17 XD 5.0 Cummins. They squatted the same amount. The 5.9 had better fuel economy, but the 5.0 rides nicer, pulls better, and stops better.
I agree with you guys. I'm a multiple diesel owner. I work for Toyota company. Tundra already has manual headlight control...gas 5.7...381hp and 426 ftq. At 58,899..New chevy 2500 4 door lt with duramax and Allison is 54,699...ram 2500 Laramie 4 door, 56,929...Ford 4 door fx4, 58,999....3.9 mpg. Granted that's a huge trailer and no one would buy this truck with intentions of using that trailer. Highly disappointed...
At least one of the Engine Brake aftermarket suppliers is pledging to have a product on the market by this summer for the 5.0L Cummins. That will be about $1,100 upgrade. One of the turbocharger repair shops claimed that they can upgrade the wheel on the compressor. And Banks Power has a video on UA-cam of a prototype air-inlet they have installed on a pre-production model. There is a company that installs gooseneck products that can install an in-bed connection in the wall of the bed for $ 200. In my city, the Titan XD 4x4 Platinum Reserve has a sticker price of $ 64,150. So you are looking at $ 70,000 to get the truck up to par, here in south Texas. I would like to see a rugged locking fuel hatch on a $ 70,000 truck.
I test drove the new Titan XD and it was a pretty great experience. I never had to use the service brakes - just manually downshifted to come to a stop. Its a heavy truck - around 7,000 LBS and that really helps in Alaska for winter traction and when strong crosswinds try to throw you into the other lane. I would like to see Consumer Reports do a long term test. Maybe in 3 years we will know what the reliability is like. The engine and transmission are solid...but will the electronics and all the components prove reliable(?)... as reliable as a Toyota Tundra with a perfect CR reliability history? Gotta wait and see.
Side Note: The new large disc brakes stop this in 120 feet from 60MPH (that's only 21 feet more than a Cadillac CTS VSport).
It’s been 4 years now. So far we have learned that the emissions components are bad(of course) and they are causing crank shaft and injector failure. Transmission and electrical stuff works great with no problem. Just engine problems which is a shame since it’s a Cummins.
@@oinchadoomandwolfboy yeah luckily it's just emissions, so a delete and you'll be fine but still a darn shame
@@nativeoutdoors1780 It’s more then just the emissions that goes bad. I’ve had a hand full of stuff go wrong since i commented last. I still love the truck.
@@oinchadoomandwolfboy what else goes wrong? And is there fixes? I mean I drive a 6.4 and I think that's the most hated diesel haha but I love mine since almost all the issues stem from emissions components, so if you delete and do your maintenance then they last just fine.
That being said there will always be other things that could go wrong but that's any engines, even the Cummins inline six has issues here and there, just the nature of engines with all these components and moving parts
@@nativeoutdoors1780 Bunch of seals and o-rings on different components. Fuel lift pump starts leaking. Injector crush washer disappeared causing a misfire. Steering box leaking. Oil filter starts leaking around the seal when it’s close to an oil change.
I like the new scoring system. People are going to bitch about it but in the future it will be easier to compare a truck with its rivals.
This video is unlisted?
Love the sound of that engine!
It’s great for my landscape company
Any chance for an extended cut review showing more of the titans performance like in previous TFL videos?
I am afraid people will compare this truck with the F-250, Chevy 2500 and Ram 2500....which is wrong. People should have in mind that this is a truck that falls in-between the F150 and F250, Chevy 1500 -2500, Ram1500-2500. That is one of Nissan's goal with the 2016 Titan XD. And by the way....if I was looking for a truck that I was going to use for hauling loaded trailers everyday....I would get me a F250 or simmilar...and not one of these small trucks :)
+Fred Meyer Yes, that was Nissan's intent, but in reality the Titan performs the same as a half-ton, but costs more. It also gets the fuel economy of a 3/4 ton while being less capable. It doesn't do anything better than either platform.
Cool that you have a proper points system now, but please tell us how many points the trucks get in each category and not only the total.
That info will be posted to our web site.
The Fast Lane Truck Cool. Thanks.
+MrAnalFace I like this new point system.
drunkpolak wontreply Me too. I like to see things broken down so we can draw our own conclusions.
+The Fast Lane Truck I like the new point system a lot. should help with golden hitch award. seems that TFL Truck is coming a long way.
Love the videos, but this scoring system needs some fine tuning. You cant deduct a point every time you apply the brake to a truck going downhill, breaking is inevitable and this will basically deduct a letter grade ( based off 100 pts) to a truck, still its essential to every test, but it just needs to be reworked somehow. Btw, where was this system for the 2016 6.2 Silverado you tested prior?
I predict your point system will cause a disturbance in the Force, lol, I mean comments.
I like this Titan XD, a mix of 1/2-ton and 3/4-ton thing. I would've bought it and put all my money on the truck BUT I personally think Nissan could've gone full blown Heavy Duty with this XD, I think it will look even better with 8-lug wheels and beefy highway/ all-terrain/ off-road tires. Why I didn't bought it? The 5.6 Endurance was way too late in the party, I always wanted an extended cab but again the model is delayed, it has just too much tech features I don't need for a daily driver (I don't like small vehicles). The Cummins V-8 is unique for this truck that thinks its a 3/4-ton but its a 1/2-ton, BUT not being a towing guy I couldn't justify owning a diesel truck. I don't really if its American built or Mexican built, it's still a truck, you take care of it it'll take care of you.
The Nissan Titan Xd reminds me oddly enough of the Saga dreamcast. It to was basically set to be in the middle. Titan was set to bridge the gap between 1500 & 2500. While the Saga just happened to find itself In between the PS one and PS two as far as capabilities. They both failed, lesson? Never shoot for the middle, you will loose.
That truck weighs like 7000 pounds or something. It sure as hell better be able to handle a load and a cab full of people. I'd treat the GVWR as a little less then a guideline. I wish manufactures would tell us what the limiting factors for those numbers are so we could improve and/or disregard them properly. Are the axles going to be overloaded if we go past a 1.5 factor of safety, or is the truck just a little slow to get up to speed? Nobody knows.
+Quadrunner You know it's nonsense when they say the truck was at it's weight limit! People overload their trucks everyday so, adding Andre would have never been a problem!
There is actually no governing body that rates these trucks. The manufactures just test them and make the capacity whatever they want so who really knows what the maximum is for any truck
I have one of these titans, the turbo break is very effective, but sadly you need to apply the brakes for it do downshift which doesn’t help your test here much😂
Great video but I would have liked to see more of the uphill and how the truck did.
Wow it can pull a trailer with 3 4 wheelers so impressive
Are you simple?
I like the truck but I believe it won't really be worth buying till the aftermarket get ahold of the engine tuning. and imho payload needs to be higher with such a high tow rating
@TheFastLaneTruck I'd tow with the Ram 3500 High Output Cummins & 900 FT/LB of Torque not the Titan XD
I am enjoying watching all the new Titan XD videos. I live along the Gulf Coast in a county with 5 million drivers. We need trucks here that use less fuel and are more comfortable to drive while sitting in horrendous traffic jams. Bio-diesel fuel is hard to find here, so that is not a real concern. Many people tow campers, horse-trailers, products for home construction. There is no snow, mountain slopes, or cold weather. Cold-starts is not an issue, but idling in 100 degree weather is an issue. Only reason most of the city folks here buy 4WD as just a status symbol. I am just saying that the Titan XD will sell here. There are lots of Nissan truck fans here and some can afford a new truck. I think this the Titan XD sounds better than the 2015 RAM EcoDiesel. I am curious how long the turbo seal will last before needing a new seal. How hard will it be to replace the drive chain ?? Is it possible to add an engine brake. It sounds like the Holset compressor wheel could be upgraded. I am guessing the tuner hackers will find a tweet to get a few more hp and ft-lbs. But that cost money. I bet the 2017 model advertises higher numbers. Will this transmission last 300,000 miles ?? I want this truck, and would put a slide-in camper in the bed.
You guys need to test the XD with the 10000 pound trailer that you used on the Ike Gauntlet 2.0 so it's a apples to apples comparison!
I'd really like to see some "real world" tests on these new trucks. Example; hwy mpg at 75-80, towing trailers at hwy speeds on normal roads that 90% of the country has. I could care less about the Ike tests, would anyone really buy a $60-70k truck and then flat foot the pedal for 8 min on a truck they paid for?
so if that was maxed out all you can pull is a goose neck and one or two atvs that sucks. if I going to use a goose neck I'm going to put something a lot more heavy
Yes but what I'm saying is if it has a 5 wheel and can't really use it then what is the point
jose hernandez
Why wouldnt it be able to use one? The fifth wheel trailer they own and are using is rated to tow like 30,000lbs so they can push a F-350 and Dodge 3500 to their respected max towing capabilities. That trailer in itself being built to handle that much is built incredibly heavy. There are many classes of fifth wheel trailers that are not rated so high and are far lighter. Same reason the new F-series Fords are being built with aluminum. Using lighter materials means the trucks payload and amount it can tow goes up. The weight it saves using aluminum gets translated to higher payload and weight it can tow. This video is simply showing how it preforms towing at its maxed capabilities. In the real world you would not be using this class of fifth wheel trailer behind a truck like this.
+jose hernandez 5th toy haulers and campers are a lot lighter too they just used one heavy duty trailer
jose hernandez Ok, so you still don't get the point.
After driving one I want one
Could you guys take a half ton Silverado 6.2L or Ford EcoBoost 3.5L and do another tow test with 10,000lb?
So the Titan XD is designed to be in-between a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton right? But it only has the capability of a 1/2 while getting the Fuel Economy of a 3/4 Ton. The only way I can see people buying this truck over a 1/2 ton is if it absolutely destroys them by a wide margin on your tow test.
like how the Cummins 6.7L Ram 2500 took 7 minutes on your Ike Gauntlet but the 6.4L Ram 2500 took 10 minutes towing the same weight but really struggled going up hill (I remember you guys could only hit 35mph going uphill in the gas truck).
We will be doing more half-ton truck testing.
The Titan XD is also about comfort, longevity, and durability. The heavy frame and other components should improve longevity when doing work. We know it is comfortable. However, we cannot test for longevity and durability during our short time with the truck.
+xXBurntBaconXx The reason people will buy it is because they want to show off, it really isn't any better than running a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck down the road as far as economy. The price of the Titan XD is completely ridiculous and you could jump into a 3/4 ton pickup for less.
+xXBurntBaconXx Price is the deciding factor. There's no reason to buy a Titan XD when it doesn't do anything better than a half-ton does, and it costs more.
@@wildbill23c You're crazy, I got the 5.0 Cummins with it and it was only 27k brand new!
LOL you must have missed a few numbers there, you didn't get a Titan for 27k with a cummins, sorry there's no way I'd believe that, especially when the 4.6L V8 is more than that.
ford f150 3.5 ecoboast vs f 250 6.2 test. same rear end ratio. the battle for the weekend warrior, the max trailer speced light duty vs the heavier duty doing lighter towing for its segment. which comes out on top for towing time and fuel economy. little brother vs big brother. double axel horse trailer...
I like that idea
This would be an awesome test but I'd put money on the ecoboost (by probably over a minute quicker to the top). The heavier 2013 model outtowed the 6.2 Silverado that is rated at 430hp by a good margin.
F350 drew 6.2
As always, great review and thanks for the new scoring system. That helps a lot.
JMO, of course but isn't Nissan is going to have a pretty tough time selling a heavy duty half ton at just $10k (+/-) less than the big three 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I was hoping for a better price point. It's a nice truck but......
It seems odd that Nissan would build this truck to compete with all the other trucks in the 1/2 ton segment, but not be any more powerful or economical. My 2008 Titan pro 4x can carry 2000 pounds payload and pull 9400 lbs. this new one is a total disappointment. I regularly pull my 35 ft travel trailer and my pro4x does extremely well but my gas mileage isn't great. Well I thought it wasn't, I get 9.9 avg pulling the trailer. Every time we take it out. The only reason we are looking to get a new truck is to improve gas mileage while towing and not towing. This barely beats my current truck in both respects. The only benefit may be the heavier truck for more stability while towing heavy loads. I also like the 6.5 ft bed. Did everybody see the Ike run with the 2014 pro4x and 10000 pounds in tow. The Titan did it in 9.08. This new one did it 30 seconds faster and 1 mpg more. Come on. Seriously. This is not enough of an improvement Nissan in 11 years. Just my ten cents.
+Dave West The 1st gen Titan is not in the same league as the XD when towing at the Max. remember that the XD weighs about a 1000 lbs more than that King Cab PRO4X they tested.
The 1st Gen Titan Transmission, and especially the rear axle wont hold up like the Aisin trans in the XD if working like that daily. Nissan actually did a pretty good job with the 1st gen trans though. That axle leaves a bit to be desired.
Don't get me wrong, the 1st gen Titan does a great job towing. I own a 2013 SV CC 4x2 with the standard 2.94 gears. The most I pulled was 6500+ lbs, but it did a much better job than I anticipated. Was very pleased.
The Payload on your 08 PRO4X Is closer to 1700 lbs BTW. My 2wd CC is rated for 2015 lbs, but the Door jam list actual weight at 1653 lbs. Most likely because of my Value Truck Package, and step bars etc.
+Anthony But
Well I'm sure your right about some of those items however I've owned my truck since new in 2007. I think I know Nissan Titan more than most. Your 2013 isn't the same tower as mine. Certainly with the gears and I wouldn't tow much with it either. My payload is 1960lbs not 1700. The payload amounts actually have changed frequently but my year and model is near 2000lbs. I have checked so many times through the years in comparison to other trucks. When we bought our 35 ft trailer, we needed that higher payload for tongue weight and cargo. Many trucks didn't have nearly 1000 lbs of tongue weight for 1/2 ton segment. This new xd couldn't even have the 3 people in it while they were testing the Ike run. The last model had more weight in it and did it in 30 seconds slower. Gas engine and all. I understand the weight of the xd is more, considerably, but if you can't have more than 2 people in the truck, how am I going to take my trailer and family of five camping?
I KNOW mine doesn't have the same towing capacity. You have a MAX rating of 9300 lbs with your 3.36 rear end. I have a max rating on 7400lbs. This does NOT change the payload at all. What does your Door Jam say?
It's funny because when they tested the Pro4x King Cab they exceeded the tow capacity by 600 lbs ,and still put 3 people in it. I can Tell you the 1st gen Titan is a towing Beast even with the 2.94 gears for the 1/2 ton class.
I towed a 2015 Frontier Crew Cab on a uhaul trailer over 200 miles, and it just glided down the Hwy. Never needed to shift even on the hills. I have owned 7 Nissan trucks. I have followed the Titan since its introduction too closely to be honest.
+Anthony But
2008 had payload change from 1450 to 2000 or so. I'm talking about the stated max payload just like they state the xd has a max payload of around 2000 lbs also. Or less on the pro 4x crew cab. Anyways it sounds like you enjoy your truck as I do. It just reaffirms my keeping mine.
The 1st gen Titan is definitely still a nice truck. 08+ got much better Leaf Springs to reduce axle wrap, and give that payload boost.
seems the ford eco bust 3.5L will haul and tow about the same as this, but for about $12k lower price. both have no exhaust brake. both are turbo. we will need to wait 5 years to see if the XD proves to be more reliable.
I bought me a used 2018 pro 4x Cummins with 100k miles. I have almost 107k miles on it now and I gotta say I’ve loved it. I love how it handles and drives. Haven’t pulled anything with it yet but I’ve really enjoyed the truck. It’s sad they don’t exist anymore. Really was a good setup. I’ll have to say though the later years 2018-19 are the ones to buy. A lot less issues with them.
Be honest is the turbo any issues I have heard complaints about it but I am looking at a titan cod cummins
@@zackhaycraft8159 I’ve had zero issues with it. As long as you take care of it and make sure you let the turbo cool down 15-20 seconds before shutting it off you won’t have a problem. Like I said before though if your looking at buying one go with 18-19 years they are better made and will have less problems.
@@Hollywoodeatsordrinksit I figured they were pretty decent if maintained and will only look at the 18-19 year models
@@zackhaycraft8159 I actually started a channel strictly on this truck if you want to check it out. I’ve been meaning to post more videos. It’s called @NissanTitanXdCumminsTheLegend. I also recently put on a k&n cold air intake and that made a huge difference as well. Runs a lot smoother.
@@Hollywoodeatsordrinksit I will have to check it out
Goddamnit GM, update and release that stillborn Duramax 4500. If only to have an entrant in the diesel 1/2 ton field. You had it ready to go in 2010! 6 years ago!!
Do you think Nissan would make a dually version?
@thefastlanetruck do you think they don’t offer the exhaust brake to prevent overloading?? Just a thought. Watch all your videos keep up the great work!
Excellent truck! It's not for everyone but thats only because the big dick contest and sheep-like loyalty in the truck market is astounding. For the 90% of truck owners who don't need the ability to tow a small planet, this truck fits the bill nicely.
great review and test...thoroughly enjoyed it.
But seriously, who would drop that kind of money on this truck with so many more capable options in the price range? hell, you can get an entry level 4x4 2500 cummins ram for 10 grand less and have so much more ablilty....with 5 people riding in the cab.
with a manual transmission, nonetheless.
Would liked to have seen the full version as well! :)
very nice pickup
i was doing some math. loaded trailer weight is 10200 pounds. figure the quads are 600 pounds each, give or take, im not an expert, and the cinder blocks are lets say at the most, 500 pounds total. that puts the load at 2300 pounds. between the quads and cinder blocks. that makes the trailer 7900 pounds? that seems a little heavy to me.
I wonder if this particular truck is still on the road?
You guys going to test the 2016 Tundra with their new factor brake controller? I want to see how that does against the competitions brake controllers
This is the only Nissan I would buy and they don't sell it in Australia.
I’d tow with the 2017 Nissan Titan XD 4x4 Single Cab SV because it’s a long bed instead of the Crew Cab Short Bed if I was doin the Extreme Ike Gauntlet I’d do it In 4WD not 2WD because it makes a lot more sense than towing in 2WD
There is no test done by any major truck reviewer like the Ike Gauntlet! If you survive that you can tow anywhere.
One comment that annoys me. It is Diesel Exhaust Fluid. The abbreviation is D. E. F. Three separate letters not one word
I'd like to see some objective way to quantify a truck that can't maintain a safe/adequate speed up the hill. Something to think about?
would of liked to see the run in its entirety like other videos to watch it struggle. Needless to say its slower than the ecoboost with a 10,800lb load. On another video i guessed it would be slower than the 'rado with a time of 8:39 with a load of 10,800. Ever notice how much less diesel clatter the powerstroke has, because they engineered out the noise..
+Marc Monson 6.7 powerstroke is a beaut
+Marc Monson Powerstroke or Scorpion engine is garbage. Ford one day will get it right. This engine is not it. The old powerstroke now that is a good engine
it still uses chains for timing.. whats wrong with the powerstroke?
+Marc Monson The trailer they hooked to the Ecobbost was 10,000 lbs even. They used a 10,200lb trailer with the XD.
The Ecoboost did very well no doubt but that F150 also weighs over 1000lbs less than the XD.
The XD did a respectable job I thought.
+Anthony But This whole video is a shabby affair! All tests I have watched going up the Ike have always had external and internal video footage as they went up the Ike. The start point was always at the bottom and they had to accelerate onto traffic and on up the hill. This video shows Nathan say start and cheekily doesn't even show the start/stop on the phone. It cuts out from 2566 mile on the trip computer to around 2570 after they have started the timing. At the top it stops at 2576.... I cannot account for the 2 miles between the end of the Ike downhill and the start back up for the 8 miles. I doubt every number I see in this test!
Andre could have been skiing you guys. Like old times