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Love you Jeff. I was Mormon my whole life and I have seen the truth because of a great friend you met and Sandra Tanner and you played a huge role in my research. I was baptised Christian on Easter this year 2019. Keep up your amazing work God bless much love. More lives will change and go to the truth like mine.
I think Proverbs 18:2 sums up the situation with Kwaku rather succinctly: "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion."
Martin England it doesn’t? I’m honestly wondering . So if you accept Jesus Christ you could never repent for your sins and go on living wrong without repenting? I don’t think the lord wants it that way. I was under the impression that you had to accept Jesus and repent for your sins and acknowledge them and try and do better .
I just now commented on Kwaku's youtube channel and interacted with some other comments. Found out Kwaku doesnt want this video public....WHY? He permanently banned me from his channel because I commented with the link of this video and other comments telling others to check out Apologia's response, but he banned me in a way that hides my comments from others. I can still comment on his video BUT, no one can see my comments except for myself when logged into my channel. How I found out about this is that I also have a second channel. I logged into that channel to check out my notifications and happened to go back to the video I commented on Kwaku's channel. Thats when i noticed my comments did not appear in the comments section. I logged back into my other channel and there it was! Which means Kwaku is hiding users who's comments disagree with his videos. I'm sure he did not ban you because he knows you will call him out publicly if he were to hide your comments on his videos. Just a heads up if anyone decided to comment on his videos. Keep up the good work!
FYI, here is my second channel. So the fact that I can comment under my own comment from another channel proves I have not been banned from Apologia, but I cannot do this under Kwaku's youtube channel because he has hidden both of my channels from interaction on his videos.
It’s true. He blocked my comments even though it didn’t violate guidelines. But it just speaks more about his character and shows his lack of tolerance. My question was if they support oppression of people. And I gave the example of Palestinian and Israelis both which are oppress. And that got me banned.
Personal attacks happen when a person can't stand within their own arguments. When Kwaku starts to see his position falter, he goes the personal attack route. Sad. Yes to Proverbs 18:2.
I was so relieved when you guys admitted to getting the date wrong on the article. That was the ONLY thing of substance that I found in his videos. I love the honesty and integrity you guys have shown with these accusations.
Fyi, the "I feel"s are code for God is telling me, showing me, guiding me, etc. They believe very strongly in personal revelation through their feelings.
@borrowed tomb: Didn't you watched the video? Or did you just decide to post without observing and listening. Perfect example of willful ignorance. Jeff just destroyed Kwaku's lies.
Good work you guys. My family members are Mormon and this “attitude” is prevalent in the culture and very sad to be on the receiving end of. Ps. I’ve wanted to meet you Jeff when I lived in Chandler AZ but never got the opportunity. I was saved through your ministry and for that I pray God continues to lift up your ministry. I love you guys :’) Godbless you
Reasonable BB He gets it from scripture. That’s where all Bible believers get our doctrine: “For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.” Romans 10:10 ESV www.bible.com/59/rom.10.10.esv “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:10 KJV www.bible.com/1/rom.10.10.kjv “giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.” Colossians 1:12-14 ESV www.bible.com/59/col.1.12-14.esv
Daniel Omitted funny how each channel has their own view. I’m sure from his followers they would disagree. I’m not saying you’re wrong. It’s just funny how two people can watch the same thing and get a different message
Black Dahlia It is the weight of the evidence. Kwaku provides a shady website that says Jeff has 11 arrest records. Anyone with reason and logic would know not to rely upon the top hit in a Google search to ascertain any type of truth. Kwaku provides Jackson as a “witness” yet Jackson doesn’t read any of the direct email correspondents with Apologia church, he just summarizes. Also, there is video evidence of how kind Dr. White was to Jackson outside the Mesa Temple. Apologia provided the Biblical requirement of two or three lines of witness and Kwaku was found wanting. It’s a shame. The debate is available to watch anytime and Kwaku even states in the video that “Dr. White is a charitable man” now he sits in mockery and uses condescending voices that would make Steven Anderson blush with embarrassment.
"Your arguments are poor. And the reason that they're poor is that you're not grounded in the word of the living God. You're not getting your position from Scripture. You've gotten your arguments from culture." -Jeff Durbin (1:18:25) Very powerful statement. Especially in the context it was said (around 1:12:27). It's a hard word. Pray that God would soften Kwaku's heart to receive this correction and ultimately find rest for his soul in the one true Jesus.
Except that I wouldn't capitalize the "G" in that context. Yes, he thinks he will become a god. This is in violation of the 1st commandment: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me."
@@all4jesus594 Whether mhotl's comment was intended as an atheistic attack on deism in general, or not, the statement "All (lowercase g) gods are made in the likeness of man" is a very true statement. All gods are made in the likeness of man. Only the true and living God is unique and holy in his nature.
I'm sorry this situation happened. I know you are clarifying and explaining the truth to the audience but trust that vengeance belongs to God. Even though Kwaku and others will slander you and bear false witness about you, Jesus Christ has saved you and the truth will prevail.
Kwaku's attack on Pastor Durbin's stance on abortion made me ask myself, "how many abortions did Kwaku prevent? How many families did kwaku influence to NOT KILL."
This is un believable of Kweku I watched the show Dr white and Pastor Jeff were nice not only did Dr White gave kweku beautiful leather-bound bible specially made for Kweku . And this is how you repay them? Be encouraged Apologia we love you guys and we are benefiting from this Ministry. Kweku find it in your heart to apologize these are good folks.
I know right? They were so nice to him and went out of their way to make sure he'd have everything he needed -- flights, a ride from the airport, a nice hotel, money for meals, various books and this is how he turns around and treats them? Ungrateful would be an understatement. I know a few other adjectives I'd like to use but I'm not going to let my flesh get the better of me... And just so people know: getting a bible professionally re-bound is not cheap. That gift would've cost the ministry a few hundred dollars alone.
If you are dealing with someone who is already up to his neck in deception, did you really think you would come away feeling good? No, with people in cults you often come away feeling almost violated, and misrepresented. They will swear that day is night if it suits their purpose. In the end it degenerates into " he said, she said." This is to distract from any issues of substance. The way forward is to detach from them, just as you would detach from someone with an addiction, in order to protect yourself. Kwaku is not interested in truth. Until he is you are wasting your time on him.
Been following you for a while Jeff, love what you do and love how everything is done through the word of god. Was just watching Kyuku responses and I’m very disappointed in the straight out lies and personal attacks he did on you and James.very very ungodly I think just his video alone shows quite easily that he is following a different god. God bless you guys ,your all doing an outstanding job.
It's really pathetic and I really feel sorry that you guys had to deal with that millenialesque childish cry baby man-child character but I also understand that you had to put away his false claims (backed by what the Scripture teaches).
Kwaku is an extremely dishonest and disingenuous person. He bans anyone (including myself) from his comment section for simply disagreeing and/or refuting him. He also heavily edits his comments as well. For instance, he pinned a comment from a fellow Mormon and then made it so nobody could refute the comment itself. This explains why his comment section looks like one big Mormon echo-chamber. It didn't occur organically, he deliberately orchestrated it to make it appear that way. All I did was point out the fact that he's had numerous opportunities to understand the orthodox Christian view of the trinity, even to the point where the information has been practically spoonfed to him, yet he continues to misrepresent it. That's literally all I said. No abuse, vulgar language or personal attacks on his character, nothing. This along with everything he said about James White and Jeff just validates my initial point in this post. Shame on you, Kwaku.
@@mr400meter 1) its only been up 37 minutes so he hasnt had chance to see it 2) its 1am in the morning so he's probably asleep 3) this comment is not about the apostacy. I have not discussed the apostacy i have simply mentioned the word. When i discuss apostacy it makes jeff durbin look bad cos he has no answer to it. Hence he deletes any discussion about apostacy. He has literally done it over 2 dozen times to me
as often happens, Kwaku got salty over biblical truths refuting his dodgy position, and so he went down the route of slander and attacking peoples' character. his mormon theology failed, so all he had was atheist Democratic arguments pertaining to abortion etc. he'll be a full-blown atheist soon enough; you can tell.
Kwaku did misrepresent how he was treated on Apologia Radio. I watched that entire episode myself and was surprised to hear Kwaku's later remarks regarding both James White and Jeff Durbin. However, I cannot say I am really that surprised by his "turn about" either. By his own testimony, Kwaku admitted on the show that he was raised as something of a "confused" non-denominational youth without a grounding in Scripture, Theology, or Church History. Without pursuing any higher biblical education (college or seminary), he became doubtful of the historic Christian faith. At some point he encountered the LDS Church and seems to have had some kind of "personal conversion" to the false religion of Mormonism. The fact is that Kwaku did a very messy job of defending the polytheism of his religion because he lacks an understanding of the discipline of biblical studies and theology. So I think after he did the program he felt that he needed to portray himself as the victim of these "mean Calvinists." It does show a lack of personal integrity on Kwaku's part. Pray for him. He remains a very lost and deceived soul. Amen.
That young man demonstrated in the debate and his videos after, the mindset and arrogance of most LDS i have met in my 60 yrs.also mormon doctrine says murderers cannot go to heaven,unforgivable sin yet he calls out Gods stance on murder and mocks Jeff and dr.white holding to scripture.hippocrite,arrogant,prideful,full of himself.yup,he is a Mormon
Oddly enough, in the Apologia debate with Kwaku.. At one point Kwaku turns to Durbin and says something along the lines of “you are so humble. You’ve just sat here and let Dr. White and I go back and forth without jumping in.” So clearly, he wasn’t expecting Durbin to be a moderator. 😑 And none of the questions asked of him were actually answered. He was trying to win an argument (and had no foundation) to build it on.
I had watched Kwaku's response before this came out, just due to curiosity and he was very dishonest indeed, said things that weren't even true if you actually watch the debate itself.
Hello I enjoy your shows.i watched that debate and enjoyed it and felt that you gave a good account of Christian theology. I am in the middle and not a calvinist as I also hold to some Wesleyan theology on somethings. But I appreciate your content and it's every good stuff. May God bless you all
I saw that debate live The moment when Dr James White pointed out that bringing up polytheistic pagans doesnt refute monotheism in the bible was the final nail in the coffin. It was great to see and an awesome moment. No anger at all
I have spoken to kwaku on UA-cam before.. I’m talking 2 years ago roughly. I’d hoped he would run across and speak to Jeff Durbin and Dr white. God is good because it happened. Kwaku is a smart mouthed kid.., and got the information he firmly needed. I’m not LDS. In fact my heart hurts for these folk. I’m born again and follow Jesus of the Bible.
I disagree with Jeff on his Calvinism, but he certainly comes across of LOVING, REASONABLE and WILLING TO LISTEN. I commend Jeff for the dignity with which he's handled this situation with Kwaku.
I think its fair to say many also disagree with the errors of King James Onlyism. But you are correct, sir; about Jeff. This is why I enjoy Jeff's witnessing to Mormons. This does not mean I agree with Calvinism. But at least he's a Biblical Trinitarian, like myself. He is still a brother in Christ.
I disagree with you Kristi Smith or Han (I know Han is not your real name) on issues of Calvinism (we had very cordial emails btw), but I LOVE your videos dealing with Mormonism in light of your past time as a Mormon. Guys, go check this channel out for solid Mormon videos!
You mean lying about what he was going to do? He said he would act as a moderator, but he constantly jumped into the debate and sided with "Dr." White. That's not even open to interpretation, that's blatant in the video.
@@mr400meter In the agreement they made before the debate began. Kwaku would never have agreed to a two-on-one debate, especially not with such rude opponents who constantly interrupt and misrepresent what he believes.
Like previous comments have said, I don’t completely agree with Calvinism, but I totally sympathize and like your respect as well as your truth telling of kwaku. I have had friends that are Mormons and they unfortunately have acted similarly. They claimed I was against who they were and I was disrespecting them when I was merely saying that their theology doesn’t hold truth. However, they are very good people, but they do have a false sense of theology.
I would ask everyone take a step back and just let it go. Whether one is on the offensive or defensive when it comes to this incident, it seems that this divide only grows between you and Kwaku. I love your show and the ministry you represent. Thank you for sharing the love of God and love of the people you come into contact with.
Pray for the boy..hes really deceived..seeing his last vid about zelf on shelf?.wanting to debate and donate money to LGBTQ charity..also saying in the 3mormons channel thinking Jesus is to return and bring world peace to everyone 😣 the demons be talking to him.. end times..
I know I'm 3 weeks late but do you think maybe Kwaku's complete 180 on events might be down to pressure from his church? He seems to be so dishonest and far from the guy who was talking via your emails/msgs that it feels very much that he has been persuaded. Maybe some of his church members didn't like their representation despite it being clear it was his views? At the same time, being totally honest I don't know why but the fact this has come out like this doesn't surprise me too much. During the conversation Kwaku was acting a little disrespectful and far from humble at times and I saw Dr. White pick up on it - it wasn't that he got angry but he clearly was taken aback by Kwaku's lack of respect and it did change the level of his patience with him. It wasn't anything extreme but I've never seen Dr. White like that and he's obviously encountered much opposition in discussion so it wasn't the content but just Kwaku's manner at times.
Wait....I just had to pause to write this.. He really was talking about Zac?? When I heard him say that, I actually thought he was mistaken and probably meant pastor Luke! Especially when he imitated the body language. (Luke the bear lol) I don’t know Zac personally, only from the videos.. But I just knew there was no way he was talking about him! Wow so he actually was referring to Zac when he said that?? That’s crazy!
Man, wow, you guys did a fantastic job of shutting the door on this Kookoo who apparently lied to his own audience. Pray that your generosity to cover his trip, you genuineness to kindly tell him that he was wrong and prove it by his own word, and the love you guys have shown even in the midst of being so utterly disrespected, that he hopefully comes around to see that you guys have been these things, and repents to see the true love that comes from true Christianity. Brilliant job guys
55:43 The only thing that i saw that even implied that the debate was "1 on 1" was James at the beginning saying that Jeff was "In charge"; however, that could just be a reference to the Show being Jeff's. idk Kwaku is still being pretty bold in all his claims it seems.
Thanks to The Ninja, the Bear and the Girl for responding in such a firm, forthright and genuine way to that young man. Me thinks he doth protest too much. Perhaps he is under a great deal of conviction by the Holy Spirit to repent and be saved on account of your kindness AND your honest, loving, firm rebuke. Be blessed my brothers and sister. Coram Deo!
hey apologia / the dividing line, is it possible to put time stamps in the descriptions? Since alot of the videos cover a few topics sometimes its nice to jump to one topic.
I had been dating an LDS gal for some time and have researched their religion for years. Just a few thoughts...LDS people need to understand the IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS of Christ. They only partly understand one side of the atonement; that Jesus died for their sins, but have NO IDEA of the other side of what Jesus did FOR US. If they can understand that, then all their worthiness, works, obedience to laws and ordinances melt like butter. Second, I love you Jeff and James, but there was a large portion of the debate, if I remember correctly, where you got into the weeds concerning predestination and the trinity which won't speak to a latter day saint AT ALL. You might as well be speaking a foreign language to them. Their narrative has been pounded into their head of what they are supposed to believe, not what scripture teaches. It's why even the most educated LDS can't even come close to seeing that their own Book of Mormon teaches that their is ONE GOD (modalism) and that Joseph started teaching something completely contrary to what their own scriptures teach. But please keep up the outreach to the mormons. They need to hear the love of Christ and what he did for them!
Well I’d venture to guess if she has been dating you, a non-member, for a significant amount of time, she isn’t a particularly invested member and probably doesn’t know very much about the scriptures and doctrine. There’s plenty of Christians that are like that as well.
Ryan Johnson - Ryan, thank you for your comment. There is a past with her, a divorce and other family ties to the church, but she is straddling many fences trying to make it fit in her life. She knows a lot of doctrine and is fairly well read but not well enough. For if she knew the history and followed the theological thread on a timeline there would be serious problems for her worldview. Obviously, I have issues as well as a follower of Christ and is why our relationship won’t last much longer. In the LDS mind, the church MUST be true so the mental gymnastics are constantly going off to make everything fit. Only time will tell. Having said all that she is actually a gospel doctrine teacher so as of late last year and this year she has been studying the Bible but constantly misses the theological obvious doctrines which conflict with hers. It’s reading with rose colored glasses for sure.
Hey i just wanted to say the music takes away from what is being said, yeh it might add to the mood but unnecessary or could be lower in volume maybe. Want to hear what your saying not listen to the music. Was a lot better once the music stopped.
Todays wtf? is from Proverbs 26 4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he feel wise in his own conceit.
You have to be super careful with the "2-3 witnesses" rule when an accusation is made against an Elder, otherwise you end up with a mess like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
First; great video to show the false claims of Kwaku. Second, does anybody else honestly think Kwaku won't respond to this? I know he said he wouldn't respond or say something else, but he has already proven that he's more than willing to make false statements and accusations to "prove" his argument. Why would he stop now? I think we'll see a response from Kwaku on this soon
The only thing I wish this didn’t include was the chat about Calvinism. Is that really necessary for unbelievers to know the true joy and promise of His love? I get that Calvinism is a topic amongst Christians... Mormons are not Christians.
My only issue with what y’all said today really isn’t an issue. However, I think it should be voiced. When Kwaku introduced himself on FB Messenger, and said “Hey I’m Kwaku from the 3 Mormons.” He was most likely referencing something that y’all would know him from. It’s not that big of a deal but, you know he is going to mention it in his response.
2 things: if you guys say you want kwaku to stick to Theology...perhaps do the same. 2. Some of the details could have been simple mistakes on Kwaku's part.
The problem with mainstream religions is that everyone of them think that they are right, especially with the Christian mainstream religion where you have many different divisions amongst its faith now. I don't know how it got that way, but i'd imagine that it wasn't Jesus's vision to have his name being represented in this manner and have all this infighting take place for centuries on who is more right.
For all reading this, please pray for the you tube family...Knorp and South...they are a family with nine children, and Mormon. I believe the Lord has placed them on my heart. Their oldest son is preparing to leave for his "mission" trip. I've tagged them in several videos. I believe they could make a difference in many ways if they would accept truth.
This misrepresentation of Christianity reminds me of the writings of the Apostle Paul in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 - "For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will multiply teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear what they want to hear. They will turn away from hearing the truth and will turn aside to myths. "
I agree. They do so much on Mormonism and very little on the Watchtower. Even James White himself said that the New World Translation was the 'most dangerous piece of anti-Christian literature on the planet' [I hope I'm quoting that correctly?] in one of his brief sermons. Mormonism is primarily an American phenomena. We get them here too in Australia but nothing like the JWs. Even though the Watchtower is much smaller by number, I feel their influence is much more global.
I can't imagine being a believer in a religion from the mouth of a 14 year old boy who later couldn't keep himself out of jail (repeatedly) through his own incorrugible nature...
Religious debates are as much about scriptural interpretation as they are about anything. I didn’t think 2 on 1 wasn’t fair, but he agreed. Kwaku, IMO, wasn’t prepared. But I get why Jeff brought James White on, Jeff can’t come close to James on the epic resource James is. Although I’ve read where James has incriminated himself on sola scriptoria. I guess he can’t pretend to be right all the time by flooding his combatants with massive volumes of needless information and constant side-tracking. I’d love to se Jeff talk to a couple more suitable opponents by himself with at least one of them being at least as well versed as James White.
My problem with both Kwaku and ya’lls lines of thinking is that they are both backed up with with fallacy… kwaku definitely quotes scriptures out of context… but when he points out gaps in your definition of the trinity, you simply adjust definitions of words in order to redefine things in a way that covers up the hole in the logic.
I just watched the debate with Durbin/White against Kwaku, and I have never seen someone so prideful, arrogant, haughty, deluded and deceived as Kwaku is. Boy does satan have a strong grasp on that kid its absolutely terrifying. The only thing we can do is pray for him guys.
It is so hard to extend Christian charity to someone like kwaku. He's a classic Mormon in that if you were to have done to him what he did to you (in regards to the blatant slander) he would have called you into court!! Also he's the classic Mormon apologist, (now there's an oxymoron, if I've ever seen one) (delivered with best Groucho impersonation) in that they will NEVER answer even the simplest questions!!!
1 Peter 3:15-16 [15] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, [16] having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame.
There is a mormon missionary that goes to our house they are good thats why my father let them come in and share about their gospel. At first its okay they say that because of joseph smith the words of god's is restored and I wasn't totally aware of that thinking how bad humanity is and as they come and go I learn new things and saying that we are saved through the atonement of christ and I totally agreed that is my basic knowledge about God. Mormons are really good their intentions is good. One time they shared something about pre-existence and they say we already exist in a spirit realm before we are born and they say jesus christ is our brother and I said okay and then after we are spiritual siblings and satan also is our spiritual siblings and make my fundamental knowledge wrong and made me confused. And because I read again the bible I already done understanding bible through clips and animations but also reading but more on watching animation. They are so good and there's one time that I was talking about someone who told me that mormons believe that they will be god someday and I told them its not right ? Asking them and I ask them like laughing expecting that they would agree to what I've said. Because of that it triggers me to read the bible again. Isaiah 43:10 John 1 1 John 5:7 Titus 3:5 John 1:18 Galatians 1:6-9 Ecclesiastes 9:5 Ephesians 2:8-9 Matthew 24:35 This verses is enough to say what is god and what kind of god he is. His words is not restored for it did not come to pass and if they say that it wasn't translated correctly then where is it? There is a distinction between creator and creation we will never be god someday for god exist from eternity to eternity. I don't want them to be offended because they have good intentions and yet they are mormons because they are born as mormon and dont have knowledge about the bible and saying that bible wasnt all true. I want to helo this mormon missionary they can't answer my questions yes it is true that not all can be answered but saying that the book of mormon is not contradictory to the bible. They believed in the bible and the book of mormon claimed that it was the most accurate above the earth. My date or what they goal was june 22 2019 but I tell them I'm not ready and still they continued to be here for me it is okay I want to help them I always attend their church everysunday and all of them are friendly and approachable. Please give me some advice
Maybe you could ask if they would study the new testament with you. You could show them those verses and help them see Jesus' gospel is one of grace not works and that there is assurance of salvation by believing in Christ alone.
I told them that I will read the book of mormon if they will also read the new testament and they agree and they told me they will also share their insights. I hope that the words will speak to them. Thank You!
@@iangienomillar8093 that's great!! I pray too that through the words of the New Testament the Holy Spirit will reveal God's grace and forgiveness of sin through faith in the true Jesus Christ!!
I agree with you on capital punishment for abortion. I will take flack for it but I am in agreement with you Pastor (on record). I believe a person can get saved and forgiven after getting an abortion. However you must pay for what you have done. Jeffrey Dahmer confessed Christ after his arrest. It would have been complete injustice for the state to let him go after. Murdering a child is not seen as bad as murdering a person who has been born. It's sick.
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Some left CHRISTIANITY, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, due to rebellious & lack of knowledge.
Go to 25:00 if you want to skip to the real topic
Keith P I don’t know why no one has said thank you to you but Thank You lol
Yes thank you.
I really don’t see how watching that old woman suffer was supposed to be funny. Kind of cruel for Christians in my opinion.
Thanks Keith P. Time is my greatest asset.
Not all heroes wear capes. You the real MVP.
Love you Jeff. I was Mormon my whole life and I have seen the truth because of a great friend you met and Sandra Tanner and you played a huge role in my research.
I was baptised Christian on Easter this year 2019. Keep up your amazing work God bless much love. More lives will change and go to the truth like mine.
Awesome!
I think Proverbs 18:2 sums up the situation with Kwaku rather succinctly:
"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion."
Spot on!
I'm often guilty of this, too.
@@Mattchew2232 , we all have a flesh; Believers have The SPIRIT Of HOLINESS. Are Ya livin in Repentance and Faith, by GOD'S Great Grace?
@@Chirhopher Yes, sir!
Martin England it doesn’t? I’m honestly wondering . So if you accept Jesus Christ you could never repent for your sins and go on living wrong without repenting? I don’t think the lord wants it that way. I was under the impression that you had to accept Jesus and repent for your sins and acknowledge them and try and do better .
I just now commented on Kwaku's youtube channel and interacted with some other comments. Found out Kwaku doesnt want this video public....WHY? He permanently banned me from his channel because I commented with the link of this video and other comments telling others to check out Apologia's response, but he banned me in a way that hides my comments from others. I can still comment on his video BUT, no one can see my comments except for myself when logged into my channel. How I found out about this is that I also have a second channel. I logged into that channel to check out my notifications and happened to go back to the video I commented on Kwaku's channel. Thats when i noticed my comments did not appear in the comments section. I logged back into my other channel and there it was! Which means Kwaku is hiding users who's comments disagree with his videos. I'm sure he did not ban you because he knows you will call him out publicly if he were to hide your comments on his videos. Just a heads up if anyone decided to comment on his videos. Keep up the good work!
FYI, here is my second channel. So the fact that I can comment under my own comment from another channel proves I have not been banned from Apologia, but I cannot do this under Kwaku's youtube channel because he has hidden both of my channels from interaction on his videos.
He doesn’t want to learn, at this point, it’s throwing our pearls to swine.
Posting links blocks your comments out too sometimes.
But yeah, I’ve been banned. He allows Mormon trolls like Johnny Phoenix to run rampantly.
far easier to suppress the truth than accept it.
It’s true. He blocked my comments even though it didn’t violate guidelines. But it just speaks more about his character and shows his lack of tolerance. My question was if they support oppression of people. And I gave the example of Palestinian and Israelis both which are oppress. And that got me banned.
Personal attacks happen when a person can't stand within their own arguments. When Kwaku starts to see his position falter, he goes the personal attack route. Sad. Yes to Proverbs 18:2.
You see a lot of these personal attacks when debating with atheists too. My personal experience.
I was so relieved when you guys admitted to getting the date wrong on the article.
That was the ONLY thing of substance that I found in his videos.
I love the honesty and integrity you guys have shown with these accusations.
Yeah, it was really refreshing to see them admit that. I wanted to hear the truthful end of that issue.
“I feel” is used too much in his statements which emphasizes pure opinion... not unadulterated, hard facts.
Ok but what about the theological standpoints
Fyi, the "I feel"s are code for God is telling me, showing me, guiding me, etc. They believe very strongly in personal revelation through their feelings.
@NY UK dont be ridiculous all human beings use the word like 😭😭😭
Amen. That word/expression is used far to much.
Ive lost count to how many times I’ve listened and watched that debate.
We should send it to his elders, ward cleaver, and the 12.
I love how Jeff talks to him like a disappointed father about lying and being dishonest lol
borrowed tomb isn’t that what the entire video is about?
@borrowed tomb: Didn't you watched the video? Or did you just decide to post without observing and listening. Perfect example of willful ignorance. Jeff just destroyed Kwaku's lies.
He clearly posted without watching.
Good work you guys. My family members are Mormon and this “attitude” is prevalent in the culture and very sad to be on the receiving end of.
Ps. I’ve wanted to meet you Jeff when I lived in Chandler AZ but never got the opportunity. I was saved through your ministry and for that I pray God continues to lift up your ministry. I love you guys :’) Godbless you
Reasonable BB
He gets it from scripture. That’s where all Bible believers get our doctrine: “For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.”
Romans 10:10 ESV
www.bible.com/59/rom.10.10.esv
“For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Romans 10:10 KJV
www.bible.com/1/rom.10.10.kjv
“giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.”
Colossians 1:12-14 ESV
www.bible.com/59/col.1.12-14.esv
@Reasonable BB oh please stop your trolling and go back to your mama's basement
The lows Kwaku is hitting here is honestly sad. Much respect for Jeff for keeping a level head and patience during this outright slander.
Daniel Omitted funny how each channel has their own view. I’m sure from his followers they would disagree. I’m not saying you’re wrong. It’s just funny how two people can watch the same thing and get a different message
Black Dahlia It is the weight of the evidence. Kwaku provides a shady website that says Jeff has 11 arrest records. Anyone with reason and logic would know not to rely upon the top hit in a Google search to ascertain any type of truth. Kwaku provides Jackson as a “witness” yet Jackson doesn’t read any of the direct email correspondents with Apologia church, he just summarizes. Also, there is video evidence of how kind Dr. White was to Jackson outside the Mesa Temple. Apologia provided the Biblical requirement of two or three lines of witness and Kwaku was found wanting. It’s a shame. The debate is available to watch anytime and Kwaku even states in the video that “Dr. White is a charitable man” now he sits in mockery and uses condescending voices that would make Steven Anderson blush with embarrassment.
Good summary, John
"Your arguments are poor. And the reason that they're poor is that you're not grounded in the word of the living God. You're not getting your position from Scripture. You've gotten your arguments from culture." -Jeff Durbin (1:18:25)
Very powerful statement. Especially in the context it was said (around 1:12:27). It's a hard word. Pray that God would soften Kwaku's heart to receive this correction and ultimately find rest for his soul in the one true Jesus.
I am so glad you made this video. I watched both his videos and wanted to know you all's side of the story. Thank you, Apologia Studios.
Kuaku lives in his own world and has fashioned a God in his likeness. He has become like his idol. Deaf, mute, blind.
Except that I wouldn't capitalize the "G" in that context. Yes, he thinks he will become a god. This is in violation of the 1st commandment: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me."
All gods are made in the likeness of man.
@@BlGGESTBROTHER are you sarcastic?
@@all4jesus594 Whether mhotl's comment was intended as an atheistic attack on deism in general, or not, the statement "All (lowercase g) gods are made in the likeness of man" is a very true statement. All gods are made in the likeness of man. Only the true and living God is unique and holy in his nature.
I totally agree. I tried to have a convo with him on twitter DM but.. it just seemed like throwing pearls to swine..
Anything regarding Apologia and Kwaku is a treat. God bless Jeff, Dr White, and the crew
I'm sorry this situation happened. I know you are clarifying and explaining the truth to the audience but trust that vengeance belongs to God. Even though Kwaku and others will slander you and bear false witness about you, Jesus Christ has saved you and the truth will prevail.
I am not surprised he lied about what happened. He was being so shady during the conversation that it made me so uneasy.
Kwaku's attack on Pastor Durbin's stance on abortion made me ask myself, "how many abortions did Kwaku prevent? How many families did kwaku influence to NOT KILL."
None
Please turn the music off brother 😂
Truth lol
Just turn it down a little bit so you don’t have to yell over it. I like the chill music but it’s just a little too loud
The music is perfect brah, more of that 😂🙌
This is un believable of Kweku I watched the show Dr white and Pastor Jeff were nice not only did Dr White gave kweku beautiful leather-bound bible specially made for Kweku . And this is how you repay them? Be encouraged Apologia we love you guys and we are benefiting from this Ministry. Kweku find it in your heart to apologize these are good folks.
I know right? They were so nice to him and went out of their way to make sure he'd have everything he needed -- flights, a ride from the airport, a nice hotel, money for meals, various books and this is how he turns around and treats them? Ungrateful would be an understatement. I know a few other adjectives I'd like to use but I'm not going to let my flesh get the better of me...
And just so people know: getting a bible professionally re-bound is not cheap. That gift would've cost the ministry a few hundred dollars alone.
If you are dealing with someone who is already up to his neck in deception, did you really think you would
come away feeling good?
No, with people in cults you often come away feeling almost violated, and misrepresented.
They will swear that day is night if it suits their purpose. In the end it degenerates into " he said, she said."
This is to distract from any issues of substance.
The way forward is to detach from them, just as you would detach from someone with an addiction,
in order to protect yourself.
Kwaku is not interested in truth. Until he is you are wasting your time on him.
Been following you for a while Jeff, love what you do and love how everything is done through the word of god. Was just watching Kyuku responses and I’m very disappointed in the straight out lies and personal attacks he did on you and James.very very ungodly I think just his video alone shows quite easily that he is following a different god. God bless you guys ,your all doing an outstanding job.
It's really pathetic and I really feel sorry that you guys had to deal with that millenialesque childish cry baby man-child character but I also understand that you had to put away his false claims (backed by what the Scripture teaches).
Background music slightly distracting
I love Apologia Studios but two it is rather annoying and not really needed either I don't think
Totally. Mixed way too high. I can’t pay attention to what’s being said because it feels like its playing out a section or something.
Jacob Maier: No...It's VERY distracting.
Kwaku is an extremely dishonest and disingenuous person. He bans anyone (including myself) from his comment section for simply disagreeing and/or refuting him. He also heavily edits his comments as well. For instance, he pinned a comment from a fellow Mormon and then made it so nobody could refute the comment itself. This explains why his comment section looks like one big Mormon echo-chamber. It didn't occur organically, he deliberately orchestrated it to make it appear that way.
All I did was point out the fact that he's had numerous opportunities to understand the orthodox Christian view of the trinity, even to the point where the information has been practically spoonfed to him, yet he continues to misrepresent it. That's literally all I said. No abuse, vulgar language or personal attacks on his character, nothing. This along with everything he said about James White and Jeff just validates my initial point in this post. Shame on you, Kwaku.
That echo chamber is painful to be in.
He’s blocked me from his comment section as well.
Totally agree. It’s deceptive to his audience he’s appealing to. He knows what he is doing.
Pot kettle blak. Jeff dourbin deletes all of my comments about the apostacy
This comment looks safe
@@mr400meter 1) its only been up 37 minutes so he hasnt had chance to see it 2) its 1am in the morning so he's probably asleep 3) this comment is not about the apostacy. I have not discussed the apostacy i have simply mentioned the word. When i discuss apostacy it makes jeff durbin look bad cos he has no answer to it. Hence he deletes any discussion about apostacy. He has literally done it over 2 dozen times to me
as often happens, Kwaku got salty over biblical truths refuting his dodgy position, and so he went down the route of slander and attacking peoples' character. his mormon theology failed, so all he had was atheist Democratic arguments pertaining to abortion etc. he'll be a full-blown atheist soon enough; you can tell.
Kwaku did misrepresent how he was treated on Apologia Radio. I watched that entire episode myself and was surprised to hear Kwaku's later remarks regarding both James White and Jeff Durbin. However, I cannot say I am really that surprised by his "turn about" either. By his own testimony, Kwaku admitted on the show that he was raised as something of a "confused" non-denominational youth without a grounding in Scripture, Theology, or Church History. Without pursuing any higher biblical education (college or seminary), he became doubtful of the historic Christian faith. At some point he encountered the LDS Church and seems to have had some kind of "personal conversion" to the false religion of Mormonism. The fact is that Kwaku did a very messy job of defending the polytheism of his religion because he lacks an understanding of the discipline of biblical studies and theology. So I think after he did the program he felt that he needed to portray himself as the victim of these "mean Calvinists." It does show a lack of personal integrity on Kwaku's part. Pray for him. He remains a very lost and deceived soul. Amen.
Next, Kwaku will start condemning Paul for having been a murderer...
Was waiting for this. 👀.
That young man demonstrated in the debate and his videos after, the mindset and arrogance of most LDS i have met in my 60 yrs.also mormon doctrine says murderers cannot go to heaven,unforgivable sin yet he calls out Gods stance on murder and mocks Jeff and dr.white holding to scripture.hippocrite,arrogant,prideful,full of himself.yup,he is a Mormon
cynthia Erickson perfectly stated. It’s easy to act like that when you are going to be a God one day.
Awww big CONGRATULATIONS JoY!!!! God bless you ❤️
:)
Amen
Apologia W- Kwaku L. Closed case.
Oddly enough, in the Apologia debate with Kwaku.. At one point Kwaku turns to Durbin and says something along the lines of “you are so humble. You’ve just sat here and let Dr. White and I go back and forth without jumping in.” So clearly, he wasn’t expecting Durbin to be a moderator.
😑 And none of the questions asked of him were actually answered. He was trying to win an argument (and had no foundation) to build it on.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Kwaku is just a puppet to the Mormon church and he is an ass clown.
kwaku is doing more damage to the Mormon cult than any of their own published mormon cult leaders could ever do.
@@choicemeatrandy6572 ahahaha right :)
By the way Kweku i will be happy to get that bible from you Incase you are thinking otherwise 🤷♀️just saying
I'm so jealous that they gave him all that free stuff! I had to buy Dr. White's books!
And yeah, ask him if you can have it!
I had watched Kwaku's response before this came out, just due to curiosity and he was very dishonest indeed, said things that weren't even true if you actually watch the debate itself.
Huy DO agreed. I did the same
Spot on!
Hello I enjoy your shows.i watched that debate and enjoyed it and felt that you gave a good account of Christian theology. I am in the middle and not a calvinist as I also hold to some Wesleyan theology on somethings. But I appreciate your content and it's every good stuff.
May God bless you all
When Mormons can't defend their faith they resort to slander its always with them.
Thats because they are in the flesh. They are slaves to their sin. We have to reach these people.
I saw that debate live
The moment when Dr James White pointed out that bringing up polytheistic pagans doesnt refute monotheism in the bible was the final nail in the coffin. It was great to see and an awesome moment. No anger at all
Former Mormon?
@@mr400meter
They need to leave their luciferian cult.
Amen.
*gets popcorn*
I have spoken to kwaku on UA-cam before.. I’m talking 2 years ago roughly. I’d hoped he would run across and speak to Jeff Durbin and Dr white. God is good because it happened. Kwaku is a smart mouthed kid.., and got the information he firmly needed. I’m not LDS. In fact my heart hurts for these folk. I’m born again and follow Jesus of the Bible.
Kwaku has since theologically had a his rear end handed to him by Sam Shamoun & Vocab Malone. I don’t why he’s desperate to be publicly embarrassed.
What is this music? lol I feel pretty cool that I recognize a Lakey Inspired track when I hear it 🙌🏽💯
I disagree with Jeff on his Calvinism, but he certainly comes across of LOVING, REASONABLE and WILLING TO LISTEN. I commend Jeff for the dignity with which he's handled this situation with Kwaku.
I think its fair to say many also disagree with the errors of King James Onlyism. But you are correct, sir; about Jeff. This is why I enjoy Jeff's witnessing to Mormons. This does not mean I agree with Calvinism. But at least he's a Biblical Trinitarian, like myself. He is still a brother in Christ.
I disagree with you Kristi Smith or Han (I know Han is not your real name) on issues of Calvinism (we had very cordial emails btw), but I LOVE your videos dealing with Mormonism in light of your past time as a Mormon. Guys, go check this channel out for solid Mormon videos!
You mean lying about what he was going to do? He said he would act as a moderator, but he constantly jumped into the debate and sided with "Dr." White. That's not even open to interpretation, that's blatant in the video.
@@loqutor Can you cite for me where he actually said that?
@@mr400meter In the agreement they made before the debate began. Kwaku would never have agreed to a two-on-one debate, especially not with such rude opponents who constantly interrupt and misrepresent what he believes.
Like previous comments have said, I don’t completely agree with Calvinism, but I totally sympathize and like your respect as well as your truth telling of kwaku. I have had friends that are Mormons and they unfortunately have acted similarly. They claimed I was against who they were and I was disrespecting them when I was merely saying that their theology doesn’t hold truth. However, they are very good people, but they do have a false sense of theology.
You guys were respectful and kind during the entire duration of the debate with this young man. I commend you for your behavior. Excellent work men.
I would ask everyone take a step back and just let it go. Whether one is on the offensive or defensive when it comes to this incident, it seems that this divide only grows between you and Kwaku. I love your show and the ministry you represent. Thank you for sharing the love of God and love of the people you come into contact with.
New York to UK I completely disagree. Which is fine. No love is lost for anyone here.
New York to UK Hey, I should not have tossed your viewpoint aside. I was flippant in my response. Hope you are doing ok.
Pray for the boy..hes really deceived..seeing his last vid about zelf on shelf?.wanting to debate and donate money to LGBTQ charity..also saying in the 3mormons channel thinking Jesus is to return and bring world peace to everyone 😣 the demons be talking to him.. end times..
Why are you so dishonest? He said he'd only donate in the event that they accept the invitation and win, because he knew they're too cowardly.
@@loqutor in other words he supports the matter....God bless u bro
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I know I'm 3 weeks late but do you think maybe Kwaku's complete 180 on events might be down to pressure from his church? He seems to be so dishonest and far from the guy who was talking via your emails/msgs that it feels very much that he has been persuaded. Maybe some of his church members didn't like their representation despite it being clear it was his views?
At the same time, being totally honest I don't know why but the fact this has come out like this doesn't surprise me too much. During the conversation Kwaku was acting a little disrespectful and far from humble at times and I saw Dr. White pick up on it - it wasn't that he got angry but he clearly was taken aback by Kwaku's lack of respect and it did change the level of his patience with him. It wasn't anything extreme but I've never seen Dr. White like that and he's obviously encountered much opposition in discussion so it wasn't the content but just Kwaku's manner at times.
GREAT VID. THANK YOU JEFF.....The Mormon cult falls on the lack of archeological! evidence alone ..........
Or the Book of Abraham, or the peep stone, or the many anachronisms I. The BOM, or the native American DNA….
Begging you to stop the music!
I'd love to see you release the audio in podcast format. I can't watch video while driving around!
I just *tried watching Kwaku’s response to this video and boy it was painful . He is an odd dude.
Kwaku responded to this video?! Sesh, talk about beating a dead horse.
"Lying for the Lord" is a thing for Mormons.
Yes each and every day
More like quack-O 🤦🏽♀️
Or Kwakers.
Wait....I just had to pause to write this..
He really was talking about Zac??
When I heard him say that, I actually thought he was mistaken and probably meant pastor Luke!
Especially when he imitated the body language. (Luke the bear lol)
I don’t know Zac personally, only from the videos.. But I just knew there was no way he was talking about him!
Wow so he actually was referring to Zac when he said that??
That’s crazy!
Calvinists who lose arguments always claim their opponents don't understand Calvinism.
Man, wow, you guys did a fantastic job of shutting the door on this Kookoo who apparently lied to his own audience. Pray that your generosity to cover his trip, you genuineness to kindly tell him that he was wrong and prove it by his own word, and the love you guys have shown even in the midst of being so utterly disrespected, that he hopefully comes around to see that you guys have been these things, and repents to see the true love that comes from true Christianity. Brilliant job guys
Kwaku’s just a dishonest narcissist accuser. 👎🤷♂️
55:43 The only thing that i saw that even implied that the debate was "1 on 1" was James at the beginning saying that Jeff was "In charge"; however, that could just be a reference to the Show being Jeff's. idk Kwaku is still being pretty bold in all his claims it seems.
Sister JOY -Grace, Peace, n LOVE in The HOLY KING. Praying for Your precious Princess. When Ya decide a name, please let Us know!!)
Solí DÉÕ Gloría
Poor Kwako, wish Jeff could go on the Three Mormon's show.
Is there any reason why your shows don’t go on apple podcast anymore?
I was wondering that too.....
Thanks to The Ninja, the Bear and the Girl for responding in such a firm, forthright and genuine way to that young man. Me thinks he doth protest too much. Perhaps he is under a great deal of conviction by the Holy Spirit to repent and be saved on account of your kindness AND your honest, loving, firm rebuke. Be blessed my brothers and sister. Coram Deo!
Wait is kwaku a LDS liberal? That’s the most oxymoronic thing in existence
love you guys. Background music super annoying.
hey apologia / the dividing line, is it possible to put time stamps in the descriptions? Since alot of the videos cover a few topics sometimes its nice to jump to one topic.
Music is annoying, sorry
Anyone know where the first line of their intro is from? I've searched it and cannot find out what it's from!
It’s a clip from a Dr. Walter Martin talk. Not sure which one!
“The Baptism of Boldness” by Walter Martin. I only know because I wondered about it once too ;p
Vincent Pena dope! Walter Martin is surely rejoicing in Heaven as we speak. That man had such a heart for Jesus.
I had been dating an LDS gal for some time and have researched their religion for years. Just a few thoughts...LDS people need to understand the IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS of Christ. They only partly understand one side of the atonement; that Jesus died for their sins, but have NO IDEA of the other side of what Jesus did FOR US. If they can understand that, then all their worthiness, works, obedience to laws and ordinances melt like butter. Second, I love you Jeff and James, but there was a large portion of the debate, if I remember correctly, where you got into the weeds concerning predestination and the trinity which won't speak to a latter day saint AT ALL. You might as well be speaking a foreign language to them. Their narrative has been pounded into their head of what they are supposed to believe, not what scripture teaches. It's why even the most educated LDS can't even come close to seeing that their own Book of Mormon teaches that their is ONE GOD (modalism) and that Joseph started teaching something completely contrary to what their own scriptures teach.
But please keep up the outreach to the mormons. They need to hear the love of Christ and what he did for them!
Well I’d venture to guess if she has been dating you, a non-member, for a significant amount of time, she isn’t a particularly invested member and probably doesn’t know very much about the scriptures and doctrine. There’s plenty of Christians that are like that as well.
Ryan Johnson - Ryan, thank you for your comment. There is a past with her, a divorce and other family ties to the church, but she is straddling many fences trying to make it fit in her life. She knows a lot of doctrine and is fairly well read but not well enough. For if she knew the history and followed the theological thread on a timeline there would be serious problems for her worldview. Obviously, I have issues as well as a follower of Christ and is why our relationship won’t last much longer. In the LDS mind, the church MUST be true so the mental gymnastics are constantly going off to make everything fit. Only time will tell. Having said all that she is actually a gospel doctrine teacher so as of late last year and this year she has been studying the Bible but constantly misses the theological obvious doctrines which conflict with hers. It’s reading with rose colored glasses for sure.
Hey i just wanted to say the music takes away from what is being said, yeh it might add to the mood but unnecessary or could be lower in volume maybe. Want to hear what your saying not listen to the music. Was a lot better once the music stopped.
Slander can be addressed by a civil court lawsuit if no corrections in error are taken...
Todays wtf? is from Proverbs 26
4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he feel wise in his own conceit.
With a fool, you lose either way.
Brilliant!
You have to be super careful with the "2-3 witnesses" rule when an accusation is made against an Elder, otherwise you end up with a mess like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Was there any phone calls, it seems there is a lot of contact missing.
First; great video to show the false claims of Kwaku. Second, does anybody else honestly think Kwaku won't respond to this? I know he said he wouldn't respond or say something else, but he has already proven that he's more than willing to make false statements and accusations to "prove" his argument. Why would he stop now? I think we'll see a response from Kwaku on this soon
Of course he will! Kwaku L O V E S internet drama! He lives for it! Ambitious and massive ego.
Ray Comfort used this in one of his videos, that's where I saw it first :O
The only thing I wish this didn’t include was the chat about Calvinism. Is that really necessary for unbelievers to know the true joy and promise of His love? I get that Calvinism is a topic amongst Christians... Mormons are not Christians.
Kwaku brought it up which brought about the response.
My only issue with what y’all said today really isn’t an issue. However, I think it should be voiced. When Kwaku introduced himself on FB Messenger, and said “Hey I’m Kwaku from the 3 Mormons.” He was most likely referencing something that y’all would know him from. It’s not that big of a deal but, you know he is going to mention it in his response.
2 things: if you guys say you want kwaku to stick to Theology...perhaps do the same. 2. Some of the details could have been simple mistakes on Kwaku's part.
The problem with mainstream religions is that everyone of them think that they are right, especially with the Christian mainstream religion where you have many different divisions amongst its faith now. I don't know how it got that way, but i'd imagine that it wasn't Jesus's vision to have his name being represented in this manner and have all this infighting take place for centuries on who is more right.
For all reading this, please pray for the you tube family...Knorp and South...they are a family with nine children, and Mormon. I believe the Lord has placed them on my heart. Their oldest son is preparing to leave for his "mission" trip. I've tagged them in several videos. I believe they could make a difference in many ways if they would accept truth.
Great show. Wondering why you don't talk much on his comments about James Whites seminary?
Gentleman Broncos my mother bought me randomly and I was ungrateful. Watched it and loved it. Felt bad for being a brat
This misrepresentation of Christianity reminds me of the writings of the Apostle Paul in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 - "For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will multiply teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear what they want to hear. They will turn away from hearing the truth and will turn aside to myths. "
Where Do You See This Action Being Displayed?
Is there such a thing as a calvinist that believes they are predestined to hell?
Pastor Jeff the way he was imitating dr. White was it insulting and immature and just plain out rude
You guys should get with xjws that have channels have a meeting with them
Telltale
@@harrisonlang9218 how about John cedars and critical thinking.✌️
I agree. They do so much on Mormonism and very little on the Watchtower. Even James White himself said that the New World Translation was the 'most dangerous piece of anti-Christian literature on the planet' [I hope I'm quoting that correctly?] in one of his brief sermons.
Mormonism is primarily an American phenomena. We get them here too in Australia but nothing like the JWs. Even though the Watchtower is much smaller by number, I feel their influence is much more global.
@@skippy8696 cause jws are chickens they don't wanna deal with other religious groups
@@skippy8696 or they feel their gonna get contaminated 😂
I can't imagine being a believer in a religion from the mouth of a 14 year old boy who later couldn't keep himself out of jail (repeatedly) through his own incorrugible nature...
Seems to be common Mormon practice to leave behind records. Joseph Smith recorded much of his life. It's a great way to refute him as well.
True dat!
Religious debates are as much about scriptural interpretation as they are about anything. I didn’t think 2 on 1 wasn’t fair, but he agreed. Kwaku, IMO, wasn’t prepared. But I get why Jeff brought James White on, Jeff can’t come close to James on the epic resource James is. Although I’ve read where James has incriminated himself on sola scriptoria. I guess he can’t pretend to be right all the time by flooding his combatants with massive volumes of needless information and constant side-tracking. I’d love to se Jeff talk to a couple more suitable opponents by himself with at least one of them being at least as well versed as James White.
Look for "My LAST response to Jeff Durbin & Mr. James White (part 2)" in youtube and have a different perspective.
My problem with both Kwaku and ya’lls lines of thinking is that they are both backed up with with fallacy… kwaku definitely quotes scriptures out of context… but when he points out gaps in your definition of the trinity, you simply adjust definitions of words in order to redefine things in a way that covers up the hole in the logic.
I just watched the debate with Durbin/White against Kwaku, and I have never seen someone so prideful, arrogant, haughty, deluded and deceived as Kwaku is.
Boy does satan have a strong grasp on that kid its absolutely terrifying. The only thing we can do is pray for him guys.
It is so hard to extend Christian charity to someone like kwaku. He's a classic Mormon in that if you were to have done to him what he did to you (in regards to the blatant slander) he would have called you into court!! Also he's the classic Mormon apologist, (now there's an oxymoron, if I've ever seen one) (delivered with best Groucho impersonation) in that they will NEVER answer even the simplest questions!!!
Where can I find the links to Kwaku’s videos? Did a search and couldn’t find them.
1 Peter 3:15-16
[15] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, [16] having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame.
There is a mormon missionary that goes to our house they are good thats why my father let them come in and share about their gospel. At first its okay they say that because of joseph smith the words of god's is restored and I wasn't totally aware of that thinking how bad humanity is and as they come and go I learn new things and saying that we are saved through the atonement of christ and I totally agreed that is my basic knowledge about God. Mormons are really good their intentions is good. One time they shared something about pre-existence and they say we already exist in a spirit realm before we are born and they say jesus christ is our brother and I said okay and then after we are spiritual siblings and satan also is our spiritual siblings and make my fundamental knowledge wrong and made me confused. And because I read again the bible I already done understanding bible through clips and animations but also reading but more on watching animation. They are so good and there's one time that I was talking about someone who told me that mormons believe that they will be god someday and I told them its not right ? Asking them and I ask them like laughing expecting that they would agree to what I've said. Because of that it triggers me to read the bible again.
Isaiah 43:10
John 1
1 John 5:7
Titus 3:5
John 1:18
Galatians 1:6-9
Ecclesiastes 9:5
Ephesians 2:8-9
Matthew 24:35
This verses is enough to say what is god and what kind of god he is.
His words is not restored for it did not come to pass and if they say that it wasn't translated correctly then where is it?
There is a distinction between creator and creation we will never be god someday for god exist from eternity to eternity. I don't want them to be offended because they have good intentions and yet they are mormons because they are born as mormon and dont have knowledge about the bible and saying that bible wasnt all true. I want to helo this mormon missionary they can't answer my questions yes it is true that not all can be answered but saying that the book of mormon is not contradictory to the bible. They believed in the bible and the book of mormon claimed that it was the most accurate above the earth. My date or what they goal was june 22 2019 but I tell them I'm not ready and still they continued to be here for me it is okay I want to help them I always attend their church everysunday and all of them are friendly and approachable. Please give me some advice
Maybe you could ask if they would study the new testament with you. You could show them those verses and help them see Jesus' gospel is one of grace not works and that there is assurance of salvation by believing in Christ alone.
I told them that I will read the book of mormon if they will also read the new testament and they agree and they told me they will also share their insights. I hope that the words will speak to them. Thank You!
@@iangienomillar8093 that's great!! I pray too that through the words of the New Testament the Holy Spirit will reveal God's grace and forgiveness of sin through faith in the true Jesus Christ!!
I agree with you on capital punishment for abortion. I will take flack for it but I am in agreement with you Pastor (on record). I believe a person can get saved and forgiven after getting an abortion. However you must pay for what you have done. Jeffrey Dahmer confessed Christ after his arrest. It would have been complete injustice for the state to let him go after. Murdering a child is not seen as bad as murdering a person who has been born. It's sick.