I think something that Marcus Edblad talks about can help solve this. Marcus says he uses ‘one slow hand and one fast hand’. In his explanation, the right hand overtakes the left hand. And that appears to be happening when Steve does his snap around the pole drill.
I was thinking of Marcus as I watched this and lo and behold, someone else was too. Not only does Marcus describe this action, but he also mentions Steve in his pinned video description as one of his favorite instructors.
Steve. In another video you advocate flapping the trail wrist during the swing. In your wrap around the pole your trail hand seems to cross over versus flap. Am I to flap or cross over? Thanks.
I slowed everything down tremendously and it was very challenging to do it. I was about to a 10 handicap but now I'm a 2. My distances are about the same, just consistent now. Slowing down is everything.
I have always struggled to slow down my swing. No matter how many times I tell myself just before initiating the backswing “don’t swing hard, don’t swing hard”… I swing hard.
To those who aren't convinced, set up with your driver and put your feet together, and then hit the ball only with your hands. You'll be amazed how much speed just the hands can generate. I can usually hit the ball 200 yds with only my hands.
Padraig Harrington talks a lot about this in his videos too, stooping the handle before impact and feeling like a crack of the whip. To avoid flipping you have to keep turning the body through the shot.
I've been struggling terribly to get distance on anything. Driver barely goes 200 when I feel like I catch it. This is a God-send. Just went in the backyard for 5 minutes and the sound from the club face is night and day from before! Now... I am quite sure i will shank many on the driving range dialing this in but looking forward to it. Would be interested in your take on this technique with an iron. Thanks!
this is an incredible tip, instantly added 25-40 yards of carry distance in about 15 driver swings, it also squares the face but holy shit was my driver swing efficient with this drill and feel. thanks for making this!!
This IS the most important video on youtube for explaining speed. I figured this out this week after playing for over 50 years. I've been stuck at 88mph, and just increased to 92 by doing this; and i haven't perfected it yet, but carried from 225 ish to 235. the towel analogy is the best one. I guess you call this angular momentum.
I just watched four of your videos in a row. I've watched a LOT of golf instructors. A LOT, like 300+ over the past 4 months. None of those instructors have a better understanding of the dynamics of the golf swing than you do. ... At the end of the 3rd video, when you stressed replanting the left heel in order to start the downswing, I was impressed, because that's the move I taught myself in order to start playing my best golf - Jack Nicklaus started his downswing by replanting the left heel. Like you, he spoke in terms of using the ground first and foremost while "uncoiling the spring". It all starts from the ground-up: the footbone is connected to the kneebone, which is connected to the hipbone, which is connected to the shoulderbone, which is connected to the elbowbone, which is finally and ultimately connected to the wrist/handbone which is the end of the bullwhip. ... You also talked here about slowing down to go faster, and how one leaves the arms and hands behind at the top as the downswing is started by replanting the left heel - the left heel is the farthest point away from the hands at the top, and by replanting the left heel the built-up coil of the backswing is used most efficiently by replanting the left heel and creating a braced left leg in which to pull that coil down and around... ... From the top of the swing, YES, the arms and hands should simply be allowed to "go along for the ride", with almost zero conscious effort used to hit the ball - I think in terms of "hitting the ball with my left foot/heel" - that may sound crazy, but it takes the arms and hands mentally out of the equation. ... Yes, you need a proper takeaway. Yes, you need a proper set position at the top. But, the entire backswing is simply a prelude to replanting the left heel and using both feet and the ground correctly during the downswing. ... The beauty of swinging from the ground-up is that, the hands (*which contain 42,598 very fine nerves and bones*) will be minimized in the sense that they will not be asked to manually manipulate the clubhead, hence, the big muscles of the legs, torso, and shoulders will control the downswing thru the hitting zone, and the all-important hands (end of the whip) will be asked to play their proper role at the proper time, but no more than that. ... Smart man! Very good communicator!
That was an incredible writeup !! Makes so much sense ! Now to transition from mental memory to physical execution and memory. Any suggestions or drills , or it it ..just do it ! Thank you . Going to reread and unpack your knowledge !!!!!
Steve - Could you make a follow up video? I am stuck on this problem. I am well aware that the pros have max hand speed around the right hip and they slow down through impact. What I still cannot figure out is HOW to do it. The action of the left shoulder being pulled back and up is part of it. The arms flinging off the torso is part of it. Gravity having helped get the hands to the right hip is part of it. But what exactly should we feel to make the hands slow down??
@@Inmotion70 Giotta say wow!! And thank you! I tried it at the range today with some other recent swing changes and the driver released beautifully! All I did was roll my forearms to try this. Great distance with much less effort. I could really feel the clubhead launch/release through the ball. Almost on its own once I started the roll motion. Does it feel that way to you?
If you added 15 mph through Superspeed dry swings, you could expect a gain of around 8 with a ball. Don't forget hard swings with a ball in your training!
Can we practice this drill with your slap/flap release or is it more of a roll release? It’s hard to tell from the video how your forearms and wrists are working so an explanation would be appreciated. Thanks
@@Inmotion70 I don't believe this for a second....this is "roll" all the way. If this drill was a flap then the clubface would not look to the sky going back and then look to the ground after it snaps forward. If were a flap it would be staying "vertical' pretty much the whole time. This is why this is so hard to do......they are not doing what they say they are doing. When the clubface goes from looking at the sky to looking at the ground it's not a flap.
Great video. I’m not sure that this is something that should be consciously practiced other than making sure the wrists are relaxed enough that the physics will take over and do this automatically. What do you think? If the wrists are tight then the only way to create more speed through impact is to try to speed up the arms but that eliminates the whipping motion. Another analogy of the whipping is a nunchuck stick. Your wrists are the chain or leather piece between the two sticks. Your club is one stick and your arms are the other. That’s what makes nunchucks so dangerous. There is an incredible amount of speed created without too much effort from the arms.
So many experts on here that clearly should be running their own YT golf instruction channels. Instead they troll others. What Steve is describing is the lever system Mike Malaska teaches. Both Mike and Steve use their “terrible advice” to outhit any YT trolls.
It's an open forum. Please get psychiatric help immediately if you're this negatively affected by a YT comment. Help is available - get it before you crack completely, if you haven't already. Then get a life.
@@tomdee3981 I’d prefer all the other experts start their own YT channels and show us the “proper” golf swing. They should be so generous to share their vast knowledge. It takes zero knowledge or skill to troll others in the comment section.
Body rotation and good sequencing. Start your downswing by shifting your weight to your lead side (earlier than you think) and keep the body rotating. The release will only look like a flip if your body doesn't turn or is late to turn.
Breaking down of the the 7 figure before impact can also cause the "flip" . Left humerus bone is across chest till the ball is hit . 12 inch left arm not a 36 inch left arm
@@zacharydmoser What does 12 inch arm and not 36 inch arm mean? And does the 7 figure pertain to the angle of the trail wrist? I understand keeping the left arm across the chest. Some of my best shots have me feeling like I trampolined my left arm off my chest. Does that sound right, or am I doing something that could lead to more problems?
It's basically what Mike Austin says when he talks about the hands like being a "differential" in a car. The problem is, not many people know how a differential works. Basically when a car is making a sharp turn, it allows the inside wheel to rotate "backwards" in relation to the outside wheel, even though both wheels are rotating in the same direction relative to the direction the car is traveling; otherwise the outer wheel would drag which is what happens if you just pull your left hand through. This is evident if you have the rear jacked up and you try to rotate one tire - the other tire rotates in the opposite direction. But even though the hands "reverse" position, they are still traveling as a unit though its own arc path.
I was at a fair years ago , they had a big mallet that you swing on a giant button to move a ball up to ring a bell. I thought hell I'm strong I'll smash it and ring it easily. After a few tries I did it but was exhausted the very skinny attendant picks it up and with a flick of his wrists boom. This made me realize how they are long hitting guys are doing it, with the proper release and soft wrist it's amazing how far you can hit it but.... Your shoulder must go left and up or you're finding the ball in the parking lot.
I think a big misconception is the idea of completing the swing for speed. Totally false in my experience The power should be delivered by releasing the club with force just after the ball so you should move as quickly as you can to the impact position and force the release into the ball and the follow-through is really in my experience The part of the swing that’s putting on the brakes
If you want to accelerate the club in front of you then you have to have a weight shift behind you just look at Berkshire throw his body weight to the back behind him…
I have trouble releasing the driver. I want less swing thoughts and more natural release. To me, this seems to just add more complication to the golf swing. Trying to think about almost flipping your hands through impact, which to me would be really hard to get timing right.
Not really. When you're hitting irons, you're hitting "down" slightly on the ball, thus this "move" doesn't really happen until after the ball is hit. The "bottom" of the swing when this effect happens is actually past the ball.
You need to look at Alex Sloan’s 45 min video explaining about The Golfing Machine TGM, in that video you will learn about correct wrist action, it is a super clear explanation, you’re welcome
@@cdunne1620 Do you have a link? I'm also lost in the sauce when it comes to the correct wrist action in the release. I have a bad tendency to flip, and I want to be able to generate some speed without encouraging the flip.
Long ball hitting boils down to to strength. I'm not a great golfer, and i'm the first to admit it. I'll be 75 this December, and play with several guys close to my age,who are impressed with my 300 yard drives, and cant figure it out. Every 3 days i lift weights, and in between i run on my treadmill, i refuse to let old age overtake me.I take testosterone supplements, drink whey protein shakes, and take all kinds of vitamins. These guys could do the same easily, but prefer not to go to that trouble. I only play several times a year, and rarely practice, but i do try to stay ahead of the aging process as long as i can. If you dont have a lot of strength, you're not going to hit the ball far. There is no secret.
You're speaking like someone who fails to clear correctly. This is precisely the move David Duval advocated and he faded the ball. Most instructors are simply not teaching what most top players actually do.
None of that acceleration is done with the hands. It’s done with the feet. The clubhead is traveling down while the feet are pushing up. If you try to do this with your hands your results will be horrendous. I guarantee it.
@@Inmotion70 yes. None. Physics of centrifuge dictates this. Not me. Teaching players to haphazardly flip the club is probably a bad idea. You can watch videos of great players especially long drive champions. Look at their feet at impact. Many times neither foot is touching the ground when the ball is struck. That is that counter movement that creates speed. Not the hands. As the club is moving down, the body is moving up creating that vortex type centrifuge. Absolutely positively not a flip motion prior to impact.
Back in 1982 Payne Stewart alongside Fred Couples was competing in US national long drive event and recorded drives of 338 yards and 344 yards respectively. Not bad for seemingly average sized tour pros going up against all the 6'4"+ linebacker sized guys. ua-cam.com/video/DJk4jvlIX_A/v-deo.htmlsi=_RptyZFqCe56dlwr
Mike Granato from AMG has done many videos and tests on hand speed. He says it's around 20-25 mph. By the way, you clearly have incredibly high swing speed. What would you consider to be slow swing speed? 80mph? 90mph? What would be considered fast swing speed for a weekend warrior? 100 mph? 110 mph?
@@Inmotion70 Thank you for the reply, Steve. However, I meant what, in general, is considered a slow swing for recreational/weekend golfer? What is considered a fast swing? We already know the average of pros, but what is the average of non-pros?
Amateurs are all over the place on swing speed. Most of the younger people I play with are probably in the 80 to 100 mph range. Some of the old guys are going to be way under that obviously. Myself, I’m in the 105 average range. But I’ve played with guys that approach 120. But I think anything over 110 is certainly atypical. At this speed you’re bombing it 300 yards with solid contact.
It looks to me like you are creating huge rotation of the clubbed thru the ball. It seems like most of those who try this will hit it all over the lot.
@@Inmotion70.. ok, well then the next video could be an exploration into the factors that help in slowing the hands down coming into impact. The correct release would be one of them, ulnar deviation and supination etc but no extension. Wouldn’t ground force help in slowing down the grip also?
If I was that long drive maniac, I would quit. If you throw your back, shoulders and hips out, you effectively knock yourself out of the "great game of life"; maybe for good. How many guys have you played golf with that put every club on "kill", even practice swings? After about 10-12 holes they are a mess.
On the other hand Bryson tore a hip labrum and injured his hand playing ping- pong😅. But God bless the man...he is like "the dude", I am glad he's out there doing what I can't do showing the rest of us the way❤❤❤❤❤
Terrible advice, you should never snap the club and no pro swings like that. The snap or the whip in the club comes from the hands or front shoulder lifting in the swing. Watch and Rory or Tiger's slow motion swing and they don't slow the hands down. Even your swing the snap comes from the lift of the club from the swing arc, it should come naturally not from stopping your hands in the downswing. Terrible advice.
That's why this guy averaged 332 yards in tournament play in 2007.... more than rory is in 2024 so... I think he knows what he's talking about. Also try swing 120mph+ without using your hands and wrists let me know how far you hit it off the tee 👍
I GUARANTEE you that Tiger and Rory's hands slow down into impact. Probably from around 22-23 mph down to 16-18 mph. John Daly was probably best at it. Jamie Sadlowski confirmed goes from 27.5 down to 15.7. The hands must keep going positively from the rotation and lifting of the shoulder but that's not the only source.
@@beauhughes1621 Of course you use the hands but you never stall them to create a whipping motion like you do when you snap a towel, when snapping a towel you pull your hand back to create the whip and if you did that with your hands in the golf swing it would be tragic. The hands travel the fastest about 12" from impact and even though they slow down they don't stop and whip at the ball. The unhinging of the wrist set is what creates club head speed not snapping your wrist. How many guys are going to the range to try and snap their wrist at the ball after seeing this video. You watch Tiger lag the club head and when his hands are 12" away from impact he still has over 90 degrees of lag and he doesn't stop his hands. The weight of the club head and unhinging the wrist is what creates club head speed he never stops his hands like you do when you snap a towel. Again terrible example of how to create club head speed.
Moe Norman said he felt like the grip end was going backwards through impact to validate your point and he was one of the all time greats
I think something that Marcus Edblad talks about can help solve this. Marcus says he uses ‘one slow hand and one fast hand’. In his explanation, the right hand overtakes the left hand. And that appears to be happening when Steve does his snap around the pole drill.
I was thinking of Marcus as I watched this and lo and behold, someone else was too. Not only does Marcus describe this action, but he also mentions Steve in his pinned video description as one of his favorite instructors.
Steve. In another video you advocate flapping the trail wrist during the swing. In your wrap around the pole your trail hand seems to cross over versus flap. Am I to flap or cross over? Thanks.
I slowed everything down tremendously and it was very challenging to do it. I was about to a 10 handicap but now I'm a 2. My distances are about the same, just consistent now. Slowing down is everything.
I have always struggled to slow down my swing. No matter how many times I tell myself just before initiating the backswing “don’t swing hard, don’t swing hard”… I swing hard.
To those who aren't convinced, set up with your driver and put your feet together, and then hit the ball only with your hands. You'll be amazed how much speed just the hands can generate. I can usually hit the ball 200 yds with only my hands.
Padraig Harrington talks a lot about this in his videos too, stooping the handle before impact and feeling like a crack of the whip. To avoid flipping you have to keep turning the body through the shot.
The great game of opposites strikes again. Interesting and informative.
I've been struggling terribly to get distance on anything. Driver barely goes 200 when I feel like I catch it. This is a God-send. Just went in the backyard for 5 minutes and the sound from the club face is night and day from before! Now... I am quite sure i will shank many on the driving range dialing this in but looking forward to it. Would be interested in your take on this technique with an iron. Thanks!
I can't wait to hear about your experiences! Same thing with an iron!
@@Inmotion70 Thanks Steve!
this is an incredible tip, instantly added 25-40 yards of carry distance in about 15 driver swings, it also squares the face but holy shit was my driver swing efficient with this drill and feel. thanks for making this!!
I needed this!!!!
Great Video... Do you pull the club from the top of the backswing... Some say the if you pull the club you will more swing speed
Thanks Steve for the great video
Great and simple tip! Thank You!
Thank you Steve!
This IS the most important video on youtube for explaining speed. I figured this out this week after playing for over 50 years. I've been stuck at 88mph, and just increased to 92 by doing this; and i haven't perfected it yet, but carried from 225 ish to 235. the towel analogy is the best one. I guess you call this angular momentum.
Steve do you also use this technique with your irons ???
I just watched four of your videos in a row. I've watched a LOT of golf instructors. A LOT, like 300+ over the past 4 months. None of those instructors have a better understanding of the dynamics of the golf swing than you do.
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At the end of the 3rd video, when you stressed replanting the left heel in order to start the downswing, I was impressed, because that's the move I taught myself in order to start playing my best golf - Jack Nicklaus started his downswing by replanting the left heel. Like you, he spoke in terms of using the ground first and foremost while "uncoiling the spring". It all starts from the ground-up: the footbone is connected to the kneebone, which is connected to the hipbone, which is connected to the shoulderbone, which is connected to the elbowbone, which is finally and ultimately connected to the wrist/handbone which is the end of the bullwhip.
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You also talked here about slowing down to go faster, and how one leaves the arms and hands behind at the top as the downswing is started by replanting the left heel - the left heel is the farthest point away from the hands at the top, and by replanting the left heel the built-up coil of the backswing is used most efficiently by replanting the left heel and creating a braced left leg in which to pull that coil down and around...
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From the top of the swing, YES, the arms and hands should simply be allowed to "go along for the ride", with almost zero conscious effort used to hit the ball - I think in terms of "hitting the ball with my left foot/heel" - that may sound crazy, but it takes the arms and hands mentally out of the equation.
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Yes, you need a proper takeaway.
Yes, you need a proper set position at the top.
But, the entire backswing is simply a prelude to replanting the left heel and using both feet and the ground correctly during the downswing.
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The beauty of swinging from the ground-up is that, the hands (*which contain 42,598 very fine nerves and bones*) will be minimized in the sense that they will not be asked to manually manipulate the clubhead, hence, the big muscles of the legs, torso, and shoulders will control the downswing thru the hitting zone, and the all-important hands (end of the whip) will be asked to play their proper role at the proper time, but no more than that.
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Smart man!
Very good communicator!
Very insightful comment. Thank you very much for watching!
That was an incredible writeup !! Makes so much sense ! Now to transition from mental memory to physical execution and memory. Any suggestions or drills , or it it ..just do it ! Thank you . Going to reread and unpack your knowledge !!!!!
With that much club head movement is it possible to consistently hit it straight ?
Such a Great video. This does give incredible speed and probably the most neglected lever.
My guess was around 15 mph.
Steve - Could you make a follow up video? I am stuck on this problem. I am well aware that the pros have max hand speed around the right hip and they slow down through impact. What I still cannot figure out is HOW to do it. The action of the left shoulder being pulled back and up is part of it. The arms flinging off the torso is part of it. Gravity having helped get the hands to the right hip is part of it. But what exactly should we feel to make the hands slow down??
Try the pole wrap drill!
@@Inmotion70 Giotta say wow!! And thank you! I tried it at the range today with some other recent swing changes and the driver released beautifully! All I did was roll my forearms to try this. Great distance with much less effort. I could really feel the clubhead launch/release through the ball. Almost on its own once I started the roll motion. Does it feel that way to you?
Very interesting. Can’t wait to try this. I bought the Superspeed sticks. I can get to 85-100MPH with them but can’t get that to the golf course!!
If you added 15 mph through Superspeed dry swings, you could expect a gain of around 8 with a ball. Don't forget hard swings with a ball in your training!
Can we practice this drill with your slap/flap release or is it more of a roll release? It’s hard to tell from the video how your forearms and wrists are working so an explanation would be appreciated. Thanks
It's a flap but from face on it appears that the right forearm crosses over the folding left.
@@Inmotion70 I don't believe this for a second....this is "roll" all the way. If this drill was a flap then the clubface would not look to the sky going back and then look to the ground after it snaps forward. If were a flap it would be staying "vertical' pretty much the whole time. This is why this is so hard to do......they are not doing what they say they are doing. When the clubface goes from looking at the sky to looking at the ground it's not a flap.
It’s radial deviation combined with a bit of left wrist supination without extension
Steve, if you want to grow your viewership I think you should see about improving your audio. I love the content! ❤
Dumb question: is the wrist and golf club considered the towel in snapping method? Or are we just snapping the golf club?
It's free wheeling . If it's trwirled.
Mike Dunaways and Austins Carpet drill .
Great video. I’m not sure that this is something that should be consciously practiced other than making sure the wrists are relaxed enough that the physics will take over and do this automatically. What do you think?
If the wrists are tight then the only way to create more speed through impact is to try to speed up the arms but that eliminates the whipping motion. Another analogy of the whipping is a nunchuck stick. Your wrists are the chain or leather piece between the two sticks. Your club is one stick and your arms are the other. That’s what makes nunchucks so dangerous. There is an incredible amount of speed created without too much effort from the arms.
So many experts on here that clearly should be running their own YT golf instruction channels. Instead they troll others. What Steve is describing is the lever system Mike Malaska teaches. Both Mike and Steve use their “terrible advice” to outhit any YT trolls.
It's an open forum. Please get psychiatric help immediately if you're this negatively affected by a YT comment. Help is available - get it before you crack completely, if you haven't already. Then get a life.
@@tomdee3981 I’d prefer all the other experts start their own YT channels and show us the “proper” golf swing. They should be so generous to share their vast knowledge. It takes zero knowledge or skill to troll others in the comment section.
What stops this action becoming a flip that closes the clubface too quickly and results in a duck hook ?
Stopping the shift or pivot
Body rotation and good sequencing. Start your downswing by shifting your weight to your lead side (earlier than you think) and keep the body rotating. The release will only look like a flip if your body doesn't turn or is late to turn.
Breaking down of the the 7 figure before impact can also cause the "flip" . Left humerus bone is across chest till the ball is hit . 12 inch left arm not a 36 inch left arm
@@zacharydmoser What does 12 inch arm and not 36 inch arm mean? And does the 7 figure pertain to the angle of the trail wrist? I understand keeping the left arm across the chest. Some of my best shots have me feeling like I trampolined my left arm off my chest. Does that sound right, or am I doing something that could lead to more problems?
@@honkerh8r564
The figure 7 is the hub and spoke
It's basically what Mike Austin says when he talks about the hands like being a "differential" in a car. The problem is, not many people know how a differential works. Basically when a car is making a sharp turn, it allows the inside wheel to rotate "backwards" in relation to the outside wheel, even though both wheels are rotating in the same direction relative to the direction the car is traveling; otherwise the outer wheel would drag which is what happens if you just pull your left hand through. This is evident if you have the rear jacked up and you try to rotate one tire - the other tire rotates in the opposite direction. But even though the hands "reverse" position, they are still traveling as a unit though its own arc path.
Great comment! Thanks for watching.
I was at a fair years ago , they had a big mallet that you swing on a giant button to move a ball up to ring a bell. I thought hell I'm strong I'll smash it and ring it easily. After a few tries I did it but was exhausted the very skinny attendant picks it up and with a flick of his wrists boom. This made me realize how they are long hitting guys are doing it, with the proper release and soft wrist it's amazing how far you can hit it but.... Your shoulder must go left and up or you're finding the ball in the parking lot.
Emailed you for private lessons.
I think a big misconception is the idea of completing the swing for speed. Totally false in my experience The power should be delivered by releasing the club with force just after the ball so you should move as quickly as you can to the impact position and force the release into the ball and the follow-through is really in my experience The part of the swing that’s putting on the brakes
If you want to accelerate the club in front of you then you have to have a weight shift behind you just look at Berkshire throw his body weight to the back behind him…
I have trouble releasing the driver. I want less swing thoughts and more natural release. To me, this seems to just add more complication to the golf swing. Trying to think about almost flipping your hands through impact, which to me would be really hard to get timing right.
We're not talking about flipping the toe. Just to be clear.
Check out Jimmy Hamlin “The Snap “
45mph?
Interesting
20 mph?
This could work for driver shots. However Doing this with irons could be a death move.
Not really. When you're hitting irons, you're hitting "down" slightly on the ball, thus this "move" doesn't really happen until after the ball is hit. The "bottom" of the swing when this effect happens is actually past the ball.
Would this be an ineffective feel drill for those who tend to flip (me!)?
You need to look at Alex Sloan’s 45 min video explaining about The Golfing Machine TGM, in that video you will learn about correct wrist action, it is a super clear explanation, you’re welcome
@@cdunne1620 Do you have a link? I'm also lost in the sauce when it comes to the correct wrist action in the release. I have a bad tendency to flip, and I want to be able to generate some speed without encouraging the flip.
27mph
Long ball hitting boils down to to strength. I'm not a great golfer, and i'm the first to admit it. I'll be 75 this December, and play with several guys close to my age,who are impressed with my 300 yard drives, and cant figure it out. Every 3 days i lift weights, and in between i run on my treadmill, i refuse to let old age overtake me.I take testosterone supplements, drink whey protein shakes, and take all kinds of vitamins. These guys could do the same easily, but prefer not to go to that trouble. I only play several times a year, and rarely practice, but i do try to stay ahead of the aging process as long as i can. If you dont have a lot of strength, you're not going to hit the ball far. There is no secret.
I'm very glad you're healthy fit and hitting long...but I disagree entirely that it takes strength.
i have never believed this to be true.
47 MPH
24 mph! So much slower than many people think!
60 MPH is my guess
35 MPH
30 mph
35
20
If you flip the club like this, you will pull hook the shit out of it. Most instructors teach how to stop flipping.
Yes, without body rotation.
You're speaking like someone who fails to clear correctly. This is precisely the move David Duval advocated and he faded the ball. Most instructors are simply not teaching what most top players actually do.
.. no you can unhinge in two ways, radial deviation which is good and left wrist extension which is bad. If you’re bad you hook
18 to 22
22 mph
Good guess!
Maybe twice as fast as the wrist.
70mph
80-90
None of that acceleration is done with the hands. It’s done with the feet. The clubhead is traveling down while the feet are pushing up. If you try to do this with your hands your results will be horrendous. I guarantee it.
None huh? LOL
@@Inmotion70 yes. None. Physics of centrifuge dictates this. Not me. Teaching players to haphazardly flip the club is probably a bad idea. You can watch videos of great players especially long drive champions. Look at their feet at impact. Many times neither foot is touching the ground when the ball is struck. That is that counter movement that creates speed. Not the hands. As the club is moving down, the body is moving up creating that vortex type centrifuge. Absolutely positively not a flip motion prior to impact.
A centrifuge doesn't have a stopping point, wrong comparison; Think Trebuchet
112
50
nega promo posi = being supply slow is the very quickness proper!
Back in 1982 Payne Stewart alongside Fred Couples was competing in US national long drive event and recorded drives of 338 yards and 344 yards respectively.
Not bad for seemingly average sized tour pros going up against all the 6'4"+ linebacker sized guys.
ua-cam.com/video/DJk4jvlIX_A/v-deo.htmlsi=_RptyZFqCe56dlwr
Thanks Uncle Steve, opps, I meant Coach.
I tried that swing on 18 holes and all I got was a hook shot and OB.
Stop this stupid madness.
You will never improve anything by trying it once. Practice the move beforehand? Stupid is as stupid does.
You're off to a great start! Except for not hitting all your OB hooks on the driving range. Now add more pivot and turn and voila!
Mike Granato from AMG has done many videos and tests on hand speed. He says it's around 20-25 mph.
By the way, you clearly have incredibly high swing speed. What would you consider to be slow swing speed? 80mph? 90mph? What would be considered fast swing speed for a weekend warrior? 100 mph? 110 mph?
I think how much you can slow it down means more than how fast than you peak.
@@Inmotion70 Thank you for the reply, Steve. However, I meant what, in general, is considered a slow swing for recreational/weekend golfer? What is considered a fast swing? We already know the average of pros, but what is the average of non-pros?
Amateurs are all over the place on swing speed. Most of the younger people I play with are probably in the 80 to 100 mph range. Some of the old guys are going to be way under that obviously. Myself, I’m in the 105 average range. But I’ve played with guys that approach 120. But I think anything over 110 is certainly atypical. At this speed you’re bombing it 300 yards with solid contact.
It looks to me like you are creating huge rotation of the clubbed thru the ball. It seems like most of those who try this will hit it all over the lot.
@@Inmotion70.. ok, well then the next video could be an exploration into the factors that help in slowing the hands down coming into impact. The correct release would be one of them, ulnar deviation and supination etc but no extension. Wouldn’t ground force help in slowing down the grip also?
The long drive guys are ridiculous lol. It's not even golf.
If I was that long drive maniac, I would quit. If you throw your back, shoulders and hips out, you effectively knock yourself out of the "great game of life"; maybe for good. How many guys have you played golf with that put every club on "kill", even practice swings? After about 10-12 holes they are a mess.
Yeah Bryson will never amount to anything huh.
On the other hand Bryson tore a hip labrum and injured his hand playing ping- pong😅. But God bless the man...he is like "the dude", I am glad he's out there doing what I can't do showing the rest of us the way❤❤❤❤❤
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Terrible advice, you should never snap the club and no pro swings like that. The snap or the whip in the club comes from the hands or front shoulder lifting in the swing. Watch and Rory or Tiger's slow motion swing and they don't slow the hands down. Even your swing the snap comes from the lift of the club from the swing arc, it should come naturally not from stopping your hands in the downswing. Terrible advice.
That's why this guy averaged 332 yards in tournament play in 2007.... more than rory is in 2024 so... I think he knows what he's talking about. Also try swing 120mph+ without using your hands and wrists let me know how far you hit it off the tee 👍
I GUARANTEE you that Tiger and Rory's hands slow down into impact. Probably from around 22-23 mph down to 16-18 mph. John Daly was probably best at it. Jamie Sadlowski confirmed goes from 27.5 down to 15.7. The hands must keep going positively from the rotation and lifting of the shoulder but that's not the only source.
@@beauhughes1621 Of course you use the hands but you never stall them to create a whipping motion like you do when you snap a towel, when snapping a towel you pull your hand back to create the whip and if you did that with your hands in the golf swing it would be tragic. The hands travel the fastest about 12" from impact and even though they slow down they don't stop and whip at the ball. The unhinging of the wrist set is what creates club head speed not snapping your wrist. How many guys are going to the range to try and snap their wrist at the ball after seeing this video. You watch Tiger lag the club head and when his hands are 12" away from impact he still has over 90 degrees of lag and he doesn't stop his hands. The weight of the club head and unhinging the wrist is what creates club head speed he never stops his hands like you do when you snap a towel. Again terrible example of how to create club head speed.
@@DanielEvans-ye7cp.. when you say unhinging do you mean predominantly radial deviation
All long drivers, their feet are almost completely off the ground at impact. That is the source of that counter force. Not the hands.
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