@Ella Rose I would say it's a "symptom" of a bigger issue. Flasbacks can certainly get you to feel this way. It can also be moderate to severe dissociation.
Sorry for my english but I wanted to say, For your question at 3:34, DID is having fragmented pieces of the same person who aren't integrated. Basically DID isn't having multiple people, but it's having one person who is fragmented into multiples pieces, who are alters. Each alter is a piece of consciousness and the whole forms an individual, whereas someone without DID would have a integrated and not fragmented consciousness.
Makes sense why it is one of the disorder that takes time to get to. Well explained. You are one of the few people that answered the questions i had about this disorder. Even though you wasn't an expert who treats the disorder. You understand more than most other therapist. It what clients need, therapist to understand enough to get clients the right help they need.
Dissociation is a spectrum from everyone experiences some mild dissociation to (less experienced) the mid range, OSDD, to (lesser experienced) extreme DID. Would that be about right? If DID is in the DSM why do so many clinicians question it's existence. Is there enough training/education in the curriculum regarding trauma or dissociative spectrum? And, the new research thought being developemental trauma. (Oh gosh, this is getting long, sorry) There is a type of xray/imagery that showed changing of brain blood flow patterns as a DID client switched. Finally, do you think the lack of research in DID, is do to, lack of education/exposure, no drug treatment equates to lack of big pharma dollars for research, Hollywood's planting a completely inaccurate persona.
hahahaha! Your comment did get a bit long there k j! lol Let me just say, yes, you are right that dissociation is on a spectrum (mild-moderate-severe). When I started out in this field over 9 years ago, I would drive home from my position as a therapist in a hospital and dissociate (mild) while driving home. Thankfully I did not wreck and knew where I was going, but I was clearly pulling up my defenses on that hour long drive! Someone else may dissociate and forget completely who they are and where they belong. Some people have even walked away from their home and never returned (dissociative fugue). DID is in the DSM but it is there because, as I stated in my previous video on the DSM (go check that out!), a group of pre-selected "scholars" said it should be. Sadly, the DSM is socially and politically motivated with very little research. DID, to some clinicians, is politically motivated and very subjective. We lack A LOT of research, training, and objective measures for DID. So most mental health professionals shy away because we lack the tools to truly study this phenomenon. Thanks for watching!
Thank you k j !! I absolutely agree. I’ve been in therapy since I can remember. Been struggling to get better and nothing ever really worked. I know I had trauma but I didn’t know how much of it I had ( due to amnesia ( sexual abuse) or denial ( thought my parents were perfectly fine until I realized they neglected and abused me emotionally, physically and conditioned to question my sanity ( gaslighting, narcissistic parents ). I’m finally working with a trauma informed specialist and boy do I see the difference. There’s a lot of information on DID and what I found so accurate and what I was able to realize is how it’s explained through the structural dissociation theory. It makes so m up h sense. As a trauma survivor with CPTSD, depression , anxiety , ADD and PNES as well as a bunch of LABELS I received throughout my life, I’ll say that all of my therpaies before my working with a trauma specialist was a waste of time. I don’t know if I have DID (yet) - haven’t been diagnosed just yet as I recently started my real trauma therapy I am pretty convinced I do ( or at least OSDD) . I could go on forever as to what went wrong and such but I don’t want it to turn into a rant but what I will say is that therapists who doubt the existence of multiple personalities ( the term not longer used because it’s not really personalities as identity states that are part of the whole - as in there’s not too many personalities but none of the personality stares is “enough” because they are fragmented ). There’s brain scans that show differences in your brain while in different personality states. The truth is, as I did my own research, Therapists are not trained enough about it and they admit to it . So many of them say “we were told it’s such a rare condition and you don’t really need to worry about it because these patients are rare ). It had never crossed my mind that DID is a possible explanation to my experience but it’s what explains my symptoms the most and gives me a “whole” picture . I was able to come to this conclusion after doing my own work and my own digging due to my frustration with feeling like there’s something amiss, there’s things I can’t explain or am afraid to admit to because if fear of being judged or dismissed ( which has happened). I could go on forever and I have already but anyone interested in trauma and dissociation should look into current findings. As a trauma survivor I can say it absolutely makes the most sense and it resonates and no talk therapy has ever helped because it only deals with explicit memory , and no implicit memory which is what trauma survivors often deal with . Colin Ross, Janina Fisher are excellent sources as well as ISST-D . If there’s therapists who don’t believe in DID then they are just incapable of understanding what’s really behind it ( which makes sense because you can only understand what you’re capable of understanding aka if you haven’t been in someone else’s shoes you won’t really understand )
They are fragmented of a personality and they are multiple personalities when someone has dissociative identity disorder. By that I mean the alters are parts of one whole, but they also have access to different memories, and if you have different nurture you will feel and think different with different sets of values, which is what makes up the core of the concept of personality.
@Dilara Please do not take my words out of context. I stated: Some therapists do not believe in multiple personality disorder. I am one of them. I'm not sure if it is multiple personality disorder or...different fragments or components of themselves." If I did not believe in the legitimacy of the condition I would not bring it up on my channel. Thank you
So if the person is suffering from different components or fragments of themselves and doesn't know how to integrate it,what would you call that? What do you have to say to the people like me who've been diagnosed this disorder and think oh I finally found the answer then they watch this and you say that. What do you have to say about my wiped out memories? In addition,are there brain test for all other disorders? Is this enough to invalidate what we have.
I have (DID) but I wasn't diagnosed with it yet. The reason I know I have it is cause I feel different when I dissociate and around when I dissociate back to myself I can't remember what happened what I did. And when I speak to myself in my head I hear another voice that isn't mine but there are more than one they've all told my their names except for a few of them and I get more every time something bad happens that has never triggered the others that I already have. I think I have at least 13,14 or maybe more I can't really count them all because they'll hid themselves in the back of my mind or just pretend they don't exist
This is a tough situation that requires a trained professional to assess you. DID has been misdiagnosed by trained professionals much less someone who is trying to observe themselves. While we can sometimes be our own best "judges," sometimes we can't. It's impossible to self-evaluate sometimes because the disorder may have us disillusioned, we may lack the clinical insights we need to truly understand ourselves, and we may misjudge things based on limited knowledge of mental illness. So I suppose I am encouraging you to seek out professional insights to give you peace of mind and direction.
so the first thing that came to mind when i watched this was the argument bwtn shrek and donkey comparing people to onions or parfaits that are both layered. to make sure that i have this right... my understanding is that, as a person develops into each layer of their personality, if they're not emotionally stable, they're likely to compartmentalize that particular layer of their personality. am i close?
Love your videos thank you. Please can you explain why some people with DID can switch in between alters, yet others have no memory of switching or that they’ve switched or indeed have alters. I’d also like to know why some people with DID speak languages they’ve never learned. What would this be called ? Thank you 🙏🏽
Thanks for watching! Wish I had the golden answer to that. There are some treatments according to what we know about it now, but that's limited. We need more research.
@@GodsGadfly I'm not a therapist, but I've done a fair amount of reading on the subject. From what I've read, an individual alter or more than one alter can be on the autism spectrum separately. However, that doesn't mean that the whole system is autistic. I'm not sure that the would even be possible since the system is fragmented. Hope this helps.
No disrespect, but I have had those tests and they do not show that I have DID. A clinical interview and certain criteria met would be the only thing that can diagnose DID. An FMRI might show how a DID brain looks different, but it still wouldn’t be used diagnostically. Fragmented parts are dissociated identities. I hope your doubt about DID is not causing you to miss people who are legitimately struggling with DID.
@@KKKK-ld9wb No disrespect, I have DID, I've done the usual testing of course but the qEEG actually pinpoints down to ages of alters. Perhaps looking into what the qEEG test does and does not do would be a good idea and we can speak again. Thanks for your time on this ✌️❤️
@@kierstymiller6305 I have done two qEEGs for neurofeedback. There is no such thing as pin pointing down the ages of alters through a brain scan. Let’s just agree to disagree.
Ahhhh I see what we wrote wrong in the origional post... We said it was 'the' test' to check for DID when it is 'a' test that helps a psychiatrist pinpoint ages of alters in the system. Sorry for the confusion ✌️❤️
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@Ella Rose I would say it's a "symptom" of a bigger issue. Flasbacks can certainly get you to feel this way. It can also be moderate to severe dissociation.
Sorry for my english but I wanted to say,
For your question at 3:34, DID is having fragmented pieces of the same person who aren't integrated. Basically DID isn't having multiple people, but it's having one person who is fragmented into multiples pieces, who are alters. Each alter is a piece of consciousness and the whole forms an individual, whereas someone without DID would have a integrated and not fragmented consciousness.
Makes sense why it is one of the disorder that takes time to get to. Well explained. You are one of the few people that answered the questions i had about this disorder. Even though you wasn't an expert who treats the disorder. You understand more than most other therapist. It what clients need, therapist to understand enough to get clients the right help they need.
Thanks for watching Samona! Glad it was helpful.
Dissociation is a spectrum from everyone experiences some mild dissociation to (less experienced) the mid range, OSDD, to (lesser experienced) extreme DID. Would that be about right? If DID is in the DSM why do so many clinicians question it's existence. Is there enough training/education in the curriculum regarding trauma or dissociative spectrum?
And, the new research thought being developemental trauma.
(Oh gosh, this is getting long, sorry)
There is a type of xray/imagery that showed changing of brain blood flow patterns as a DID client switched.
Finally, do you think the lack of research in DID, is do to, lack of education/exposure, no drug treatment equates to lack of big pharma dollars for research, Hollywood's planting a completely inaccurate persona.
hahahaha! Your comment did get a bit long there k j! lol
Let me just say, yes, you are right that dissociation is on a spectrum (mild-moderate-severe). When I started out in this field over 9 years ago, I would drive home from my position as a therapist in a hospital and dissociate (mild) while driving home. Thankfully I did not wreck and knew where I was going, but I was clearly pulling up my defenses on that hour long drive!
Someone else may dissociate and forget completely who they are and where they belong. Some people have even walked away from their home and never returned (dissociative fugue).
DID is in the DSM but it is there because, as I stated in my previous video on the DSM (go check that out!), a group of pre-selected "scholars" said it should be. Sadly, the DSM is socially and politically motivated with very little research. DID, to some clinicians, is politically motivated and very subjective. We lack A LOT of research, training, and objective measures for DID. So most mental health professionals shy away because we lack the tools to truly study this phenomenon.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you k j !! I absolutely agree. I’ve been in therapy since I can remember. Been struggling to get better and nothing ever really worked. I know I had trauma but I didn’t know how much of it I had ( due to amnesia ( sexual abuse) or denial ( thought my parents were perfectly fine until I realized they neglected and abused me emotionally, physically and conditioned to question my sanity ( gaslighting, narcissistic parents ). I’m finally working with a trauma informed specialist and boy do I see the difference. There’s a lot of information on DID and what I found so accurate and what I was able to realize is how it’s explained through the structural dissociation theory. It makes so m up h sense. As a trauma survivor with CPTSD, depression , anxiety , ADD and PNES as well as a bunch of LABELS I received throughout my life, I’ll say that all of my therpaies before my working with a trauma specialist was a waste of time. I don’t know if I have DID (yet) - haven’t been diagnosed just yet as I recently started my real trauma therapy I am pretty convinced I do ( or at least OSDD) . I could go on forever as to what went wrong and such but I don’t want it to turn into a rant but what I will say is that therapists who doubt the existence of multiple personalities ( the term not longer used because it’s not really personalities as identity states that are part of the whole - as in there’s not too many personalities but none of the personality stares is “enough” because they are fragmented ). There’s brain scans that show differences in your brain while in different personality states. The truth is, as I did my own research, Therapists are not trained enough about it and they admit to it . So many of them say “we were told it’s such a rare condition and you don’t really need to worry about it because these patients are rare ). It had never crossed my mind that DID is a possible explanation to my experience but it’s what explains my symptoms the most and gives me a “whole” picture . I was able to come to this conclusion after doing my own work and my own digging due to my frustration with feeling like there’s something amiss, there’s things I can’t explain or am afraid to admit to because if fear of being judged or dismissed ( which has happened). I could go on forever and I have already but anyone interested in trauma and dissociation should look into current findings. As a trauma survivor I can say it absolutely makes the most sense and it resonates and no talk therapy has ever helped because it only deals with explicit memory , and no implicit memory which is what trauma survivors often deal with . Colin Ross, Janina Fisher are excellent sources as well as ISST-D . If there’s therapists who don’t believe in DID then they are just incapable of understanding what’s really behind it ( which makes sense because you can only understand what you’re capable of understanding aka if you haven’t been in someone else’s shoes you won’t really understand )
They are fragmented of a personality and they are multiple personalities when someone has dissociative identity disorder. By that I mean the alters are parts of one whole, but they also have access to different memories, and if you have different nurture you will feel and think different with different sets of values, which is what makes up the core of the concept of personality.
Thanks for sharing this Elizabeth!
Great explanation Elizabeth
Yes and that is the exact reason it hurt so much to hear you say "Some therapists dont believe in DID. I am one of them" in the Video. ...
@Dilara Please do not take my words out of context. I stated:
Some therapists do not believe in multiple personality disorder. I am one of them. I'm not sure if it is multiple personality disorder or...different fragments or components of themselves."
If I did not believe in the legitimacy of the condition I would not bring it up on my channel.
Thank you
@@TherapistTamaraHill I am sorry for not listening more carefully. Think Was to dissociated
So if the person is suffering from different components or fragments of themselves and doesn't know how to integrate it,what would you call that? What do you have to say to the people like me who've been diagnosed this disorder and think oh I finally found the answer then they watch this and you say that. What do you have to say about my wiped out memories?
In addition,are there brain test for all other disorders? Is this enough to invalidate what we have.
Thank you for making this explanation so easy to understand. I wonder if you could consider to share the neuroscience of DID
You're welcome!! And I can definitely add it to my topics list.
Love this topic. Thank you for covering it! Waiting on Wednesdays too.
I have (DID) but I wasn't diagnosed with it yet. The reason I know I have it is cause I feel different when I dissociate and around when I dissociate back to myself I can't remember what happened what I did. And when I speak to myself in my head I hear another voice that isn't mine but there are more than one they've all told my their names except for a few of them and I get more every time something bad happens that has never triggered the others that I already have. I think I have at least 13,14 or maybe more I can't really count them all because they'll hid themselves in the back of my mind or just pretend they don't exist
This is a tough situation that requires a trained professional to assess you. DID has been misdiagnosed by trained professionals much less someone who is trying to observe themselves. While we can sometimes be our own best "judges," sometimes we can't. It's impossible to self-evaluate sometimes because the disorder may have us disillusioned, we may lack the clinical insights we need to truly understand ourselves, and we may misjudge things based on limited knowledge of mental illness. So I suppose I am encouraging you to seek out professional insights to give you peace of mind and direction.
so the first thing that came to mind when i watched this was the argument bwtn shrek and donkey comparing people to onions or parfaits that are both layered. to make sure that i have this right... my understanding is that, as a person develops into each layer of their personality, if they're not emotionally stable, they're likely to compartmentalize that particular layer of their personality. am i close?
You got it! Yes.
The person becomes split and they may have different names for the different "people" inside of them.
Such a tricky topic!
it's just a difference btwn if we see it as part of a whole, or make each part into it's own whole. basically a coping mechanism. this is fascinating!
Absolutely!
It is fascinating. But it is also confusing, even to therapists!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you ❤️
You're welcome!
Love your videos thank you. Please can you explain why some people with DID can switch in between alters, yet others have no memory of switching or that they’ve switched or indeed have alters. I’d also like to know why some people with DID speak languages they’ve never learned. What would this be called ? Thank you 🙏🏽
Interesting question Bee! Thanks for watching!
I will address this in my "answering your questions" video coming up.
Támara Hill, MS NCC CCTP LPC Thank you Tamara, I look forward to your answer video! Best wishes from England subscribed ❤️
You're welcome Bee! Welcome to the channel! And I love England 🥰
How to cure MPD?
Thanks for watching!
Wish I had the golden answer to that. There are some treatments according to what we know about it now, but that's limited. We need more research.
ua-cam.com/channels/zH2zZ12Atjmy4l2ewu7unw.html Also look up Colin Ross, MD
Is there an autistic version of DID?
@@GodsGadfly I'm not a therapist, but I've done a fair amount of reading on the subject. From what I've read, an individual alter or more than one alter can be on the autism spectrum separately. However, that doesn't mean that the whole system is autistic. I'm not sure that the would even be possible since the system is fragmented. Hope this helps.
@@ghostgirlc9262 thanks. I wonder if a type of splitting occurs for an autistic, kind of an extreme form of "masking?" Just musing myself.
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qEEG. Quantum Electroencephalogram is the test used to identify Dissociative Identity Disorder. That I know of. Thanks for all you do. ✌️❤️
No disrespect, but I have had those tests and they do not show that I have DID. A clinical interview and certain criteria met would be the only thing that can diagnose DID. An FMRI might show how a DID brain looks different, but it still wouldn’t be used diagnostically.
Fragmented parts are dissociated identities. I hope your doubt about DID is not causing you to miss people who are legitimately struggling with DID.
@@KKKK-ld9wb No disrespect, I have DID, I've done the usual testing of course but the qEEG actually pinpoints down to ages of alters. Perhaps looking into what the qEEG test does and does not do would be a good idea and we can speak again. Thanks for your time on this ✌️❤️
@@kierstymiller6305 I have done two qEEGs for neurofeedback. There is no such thing as pin pointing down the ages of alters through a brain scan. Let’s just agree to disagree.
Ahhhh I see what we wrote wrong in the origional post... We said it was 'the' test' to check for DID when it is 'a' test that helps a psychiatrist pinpoint ages of alters in the system. Sorry for the confusion ✌️❤️