dont even bother cause the pack is max 69% demand and sells for 48 gold. Materials cost 30 gold, better sell everything you have at auction house and keep 675 labor for coinpurses.
lmao you don't know wtf you're talking about.... get 16x16 farm and there you go no need to buy materials kid... also I make 6-7k a week doing this easy runs less than 20 min, And even if demand goes down lol i'll still make hella nice gold with my wagon :D
60g profit / 675 labor = 8.8 silver / labor .... is trash .... is very good to spend labor fast and use rest of time for dailys and other grinds ... will be more profitable at 230k profficiency ... becose 60 g profit will be divided at around 420 labor .. and silver/labor will be bettter .. around 12 silver / labor
Iron ingot cost went up a lot since you were playing. They're part of Blue Salt Bond dailies now so won't be able to get 100 ingots for 2-3 gold anymore.
670 labor for 90g, thats 7.4 silver per labor, this would only be profitable after you get "master" in commerce proficiency. Requiring less labor to craft and turn in.
If im not wrong your math is not correct. For 90g it is 13.4s /lp but thats not true either. You have to substract the matcost. He said 10g per mat which we have 3, so 30g. This is just rough but for a profit of 60g its 8.9s / lp. To be honest i do understand the whole s per labor situation but for me matters most s per hour. So if i can pack 10 packs on a cart, drive 15 minutes to the vendor and drop em for a profit of about 600 gold thats fine for me. At least its better then driving 10 or 100 times only to be labor efficiernt.
@@bramiz8806 You can't drive 10 of them, staging packs isn't a thing anymore. The bonds are also time consuming to receive, and have a good value themselves. It's not that great tbh.
lol dude silver per labor for trade packs has maybe one off the best ingame depending on what kinda packs u run and what ur prof is but in the old days i remember running larders from sanddeep for 22-30/s per labor this doesent mean that other things are bad but dont give it such a negative fibe pls there are ppl who realy like doing it and ppl who dont mind puting so much effort in it
I highly doubt larder ever have that much silver per labor. There is so much cost to make larders. There is also the time cost for aged packs which then there is also the taxes you need to pay to keep the land. You pay taxes every week and can make 2 larder runs per week? Meaning you need to factor in the land upkeep also.
@@MeetJason But packs are about having a pretty stable income, when mats price is constantly changing. Its about spending time in AH looking for good price or spending time on trade runs.... Now I totaly agree with you, getting all dailies done is way more efficient than running packs is safe zones. Although I hope they will find a good way of rewarding intercontinental trade runs cause it really gives life to the sandbox.
@@MeetJason Dont get me wrong i am not here to critisise you i only think there is more to it then just that. i love ur videos tho and i am watching you channel for quite some time now i only think its more complecated then that. BTW are u you gonne make gold makeing videos for AAU ??? i realy like those :P
it does take a whole lot more effort to craft tho. The amount of mats for crafting each of the oil,pigment, polish are already multiple times than a single gilda tradepack that can be turn in for 16g. Not to mention the labor cost is multiple times as well. But yes I guess you are totally right if its about saving time, but that's only an issue till we get a proper farm cart
10 silver / labor is trash .... ( if buy all 3 potions with 10 g each / if craft it self you consume more gold and labor and .... NO ) is greate to spend fast labor and make some money when dont have too much time to play ... or for make proficiency fast .
Thank you for the great video! I have a question however: In the start of the video you say you have to live in the zone to craft it and at the end you say you don't so which is it?
He was talking about two different kinds of packs with those two statements. The one that required residence was the one that he showed as taking roses and ground grain, that's a lower value pack. The one's that don't require residence are the ones that take the pigments, those are high value packs.
They never were good money, they were really bad actually before BUT if no one does them then they end up great money. I’d stay away from it. Also I haven’t really looked into the new crafts that require aquafarm mats ... but it is something you should keep an eye on. If the crops are selling for a lot then it might be worth your time to grab land and do it. Land should almost always be available for them unless we get tons of people just hoarding land
The new trading system is just ok. In order to fix it they need to increase the gold value more for longer distances. Crossing 1 zone gets you about 11 gold/pack. Takes like 8 min 1.375 gold per minute. Crossing 4 zones gets you 17 gold and takes about 30 min 0.56 gold per minute. That's just wrong and makes the long trips totally worthless. It also makes land further away worth peanuts. Get a Farm Hauler and make 55 gold per trip and that takes 8 min 6.875 gold per min. Hard to beat that kinda gold per minute using next to nothing for labor.
I think you probably wont be able to do these packs until the server calms down with onyx, just thinking about having to plant 400 of each of these plants so ill have a weeks worth of trade packs to run hurts my brain
Cool info, never did trade packs but this seems worth it for new players. Im on the hunt to find a method to afford and maintain a dragon which is 30k a month to keep it lol doubt ill ever discover a way to make that much but maybe i can run these packs to get a little gold to flip items in the market, You were the Jedi master of that :P
depending how many alts you have mate... 30k gold per month are steep not impossible though if you burnout xD with 2-3 alts running packs you can make around 1.5-2k gold daily if you use other methods you can hit 3k with your main (laborless) it's all about the way :D
Ahh I see so you are part of the problem why this run doesn't work anymore... How about you just not tell everyone on UA-cam what to do for gold so everyone doesn't flock to it and ruin the method :)
Because Unchained is working off the base code for Legacy that has Patreon built-in. However, in Unchained Patreon is automatically activated for everyone.
Anyone knows if I can run Archeage unchained with ryzen 3 CPU and Vega 8 graphics? I'd really love to play but my PC died so I got to buy a new one real quick
I always thought pack runs were the best S/L... could you name something that may be good if not packs? Doesn’t have to be the best strategy, because I understand how “hard” it is to make money
harvesting wild crops is really good silver per labor but also very time consuming. You can get generally 10-20s per single seed items like wheat, rice, flowers etc... Less time consuming but better silver per labor is crafting specialty items that require high prof to craft like woodlots, dairy pens, golden keys, fishing rods, etc... pretty much if you special in one crafting prof and raising it up non stop you will generally make a ton of money when you reach the high end items that only 1 or 2 people on the server can craft, once the game progresses and many people have max prof then it becomes way less profitable and you always need to be on the look out for market where it has been abandoned by the crafters. A lot of things are always in flux in the markets you got to adapt to what the other players are doing in game.
Not true any more since there are lots of quests that can give you gold for doing them but take up time. Raids, world bosses, archepass etc. if make 15 silver per labor but spend all day using your labor and don’t do other daily quests you will greatly miss out on honor vocation Hiram scrolls/infusions etc. time management is the most important thing in the game now
Intel core 2 duo 2.13 ghz, 64/32 bits, doesnt matter, 2 gb ram, and 512 mb of vram (i have intel core duo 2.13 ghz , 4 gb ram, and 1 gb vram and it goes at 30-40 fps, but i think they improved this new version of AA)
You have a very biased opinion. I enjoy running packs. I enjoy most of the game that doesn't revolve around your gearscore. PvP is not fun to me. I don't mind dungeons but, i do like me some crafting and farming.
Ya, it starts at 130% bonus profit and drops down to 70%~ depending on how many packs have been traded in, you'd probably have to trade in like 50 packs to get to 70% tho
This guy is clueless and hates running packs, to top it off his math is so bad that he does not understand the fact that if he just grinded and opened purses it would be a much better time investment than the shit pack he is doing.
@@xyyrjhao1542 at beginning before ppl discovered these packs they very very good silver to labor ratio. Iron ingots were very cheap, so most of the time you would gain some silver by getting blue salt bonds. It cost 15 labor and 7g to craft pigment/polish/oil (stocking up on materials when they are on cheaper end). So Pack cost 715 labor and 21 gold to make. With 130 demand thats 88(mahadevi, 5 min runs with clipper), -98(perinoor) gold per pack. So 67-77 gold profit for 715 labor which is very good. As you can see deman was still at 130 % , so don't know what you weebos are raging here about.
I don't think this is profitable at all. You will need 90 onyx archeum essence to craft one trade pack. To get these 90 essences you will roughly need to do 6 ocean trade runs, each of these runs costs around 30g (trade pack + captains protection). 6 x 30g = 180g just to get the ony archeum essence. You can now turn this in for a 90g trade pack... There is no profit.
Sorry I don’t have time to do that. Most likely on your server there will be public raid invites to the world bosses at least the ones in the south and then the ones in the north you’ll need to do with your guild probably since they drop better loot and will be highly contested
good old times once again, Jason. Flashbacks and déja vu from 2014.
LOL This game is garbage. Don't waste your time, crazy the monkeys that give it money.
dont even bother cause the pack is max 69% demand and sells for 48 gold. Materials cost 30 gold, better sell everything you have at auction house and keep 675 labor for coinpurses.
yes you should have guessed this now that the unchained servers are full of people giving out those packs.... the price is way down!!!
lmao you don't know wtf you're talking about.... get 16x16 farm and there you go no need to buy materials kid... also I make 6-7k a week doing this easy runs less than 20 min, And even if demand goes down lol i'll still make hella nice gold with my wagon :D
@@SirSone1 calm your tits kiddow
@@SirSone1 Seems like you dont understand basic economics
how the fuck was that guy in chat sentenced to 6786 minutes in prison?
1:15
Did you just say "ArcheAge Unchanged"? Haha
ArcheAge Unchanged, different name same shit lmao
@@ruuusaki chaching
@@ruuusaki Yeah, kinda the same sh*t, but at least with ZERO pay2win.
@@feomec yea 0% p2w, 100% exploits lmao.
@@ruuusaki but they got 2 hrs ban !! They learnt thier lesson !! We had 2 hrs to catch up to them! Gamtrino did the best AA launch
Meanwhile in trial: 3060 minutes of jail. :D (than 6786 minutes in the next trial(s))
Yup it’s gonna be bad on launch for theifs, their gonna have to buy new accounts and start over to keep playing the game lol
@@MeetJason Or they/we will use alt CHARACTER to ignore this dumb and bdroken crime system. Cactus hunters online. :D
8:00 6786 minutes in jail... Yikes
The s/l isn’t great but if you have an alt with lots of labor to spare and you casually gather the mats for the oil and polishes its okay
Is "Opac" polish the rival of the Tupac polish?
you bet it is!
60g profit / 675 labor = 8.8 silver / labor .... is trash .... is very good to spend labor fast and use rest of time for dailys and other grinds ... will be more profitable at 230k profficiency ... becose 60 g profit will be divided at around 420 labor .. and silver/labor will be bettter .. around 12 silver / labor
Iron ingot cost went up a lot since you were playing. They're part of Blue Salt Bond dailies now so won't be able to get 100 ingots for 2-3 gold anymore.
670 labor for 90g, thats 7.4 silver per labor, this would only be profitable after you get "master" in commerce proficiency. Requiring less labor to craft and turn in.
If im not wrong your math is not correct. For 90g it is 13.4s /lp but thats not true either. You have to substract the matcost. He said 10g per mat which we have 3, so 30g. This is just rough but for a profit of 60g its 8.9s / lp. To be honest i do understand the whole s per labor situation but for me matters most s per hour. So if i can pack 10 packs on a cart, drive 15 minutes to the vendor and drop em for a profit of about 600 gold thats fine for me. At least its better then driving 10 or 100 times only to be labor efficiernt.
@@bramiz8806 You can't drive 10 of them, staging packs isn't a thing anymore. The bonds are also time consuming to receive, and have a good value themselves. It's not that great tbh.
@@cyberlocc these packs dont degrade over time
trade packs run are not profitable anymore, not even in "unchained"(unchanged LUL), is such a shame
lol dude silver per labor for trade packs has maybe one off the best ingame depending on what kinda packs u run and what ur prof is but in the old days i remember running larders from sanddeep for 22-30/s per labor this doesent mean that other things are bad but dont give it such a negative fibe pls there are ppl who realy like doing it and ppl who dont mind puting so much effort in it
I highly doubt larder ever have that much silver per labor. There is so much cost to make larders. There is also the time cost for aged packs which then there is also the taxes you need to pay to keep the land. You pay taxes every week and can make 2 larder runs per week? Meaning you need to factor in the land upkeep also.
@@MeetJason But packs are about having a pretty stable income, when mats price is constantly changing. Its about spending time in AH looking for good price or spending time on trade runs.... Now I totaly agree with you, getting all dailies done is way more efficient than running packs is safe zones. Although I hope they will find a good way of rewarding intercontinental trade runs cause it really gives life to the sandbox.
@@MeetJason Dont get me wrong i am not here to critisise you i only think there is more to it then just that. i love ur videos tho and i am watching you channel for quite some time now i only think its more complecated then that. BTW are u you gonne make gold makeing videos for AAU ??? i realy like those :P
To be a
resident I have to have a house or a scarecrow to craft it ?
it does take a whole lot more effort to craft tho. The amount of mats for crafting each of the oil,pigment, polish are already multiple times than a single gilda tradepack that can be turn in for 16g. Not to mention the labor cost is multiple times as well. But yes I guess you are totally right if its about saving time, but that's only an issue till we get a proper farm cart
10 silver / labor is trash .... ( if buy all 3 potions with 10 g each / if craft it self you consume more gold and labor and .... NO ) is greate to spend fast labor and make some money when dont have too much time to play ... or for make proficiency fast .
What???
i think it would be cheaper and less labor to make perinoor basic pack 200 puree and 15 potatos
Thank you for the great video!
I have a question however: In the start of the video you say you have to live in the zone to craft it and at the end you say you don't so which is it?
He was talking about two different kinds of packs with those two statements. The one that required residence was the one that he showed as taking roses and ground grain, that's a lower value pack. The one's that don't require residence are the ones that take the pigments, those are high value packs.
Yes the big value one u don’t need to live there but there is another pack under a similar tab that you do need to live to craft
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you hate trade packs and play AA lol
Yes trade packs suck
90g for 600 labor plus 40g in mats and a bond which you will need for honor does not = 90g, overall its about 40g profit, same as guilda
is there a 130% bonus in every zone?
Hey Jason are aquafarms decent gold for the fresh start at all? I haven't heard anyone talk about them at all in years
They never were good money, they were really bad actually before BUT if no one does them then they end up great money. I’d stay away from it. Also I haven’t really looked into the new crafts that require aquafarm mats ... but it is something you should keep an eye on. If the crops are selling for a lot then it might be worth your time to grab land and do it. Land should almost always be available for them unless we get tons of people just hoarding land
Aqua farms are really good, or were really good for handicrafts. So gems, people do love gems.
@@MeetJason Thanks for the reply! Maybe i'll try fishing instead
they only were good for getting shatigon's sand as byproduct
brother its Scimitar "SIM-IT-AR" :-) it's a sword. Hey great video, thank you for this information, really valuable
Schmidar
It's also opaque like oh-pake ... I feel like he put 0 effort into trying to pronounce anything
The new trading system is just ok. In order to fix it they need to increase the gold value more for longer distances. Crossing 1 zone gets you about 11 gold/pack. Takes like 8 min 1.375 gold per minute. Crossing 4 zones gets you 17 gold and takes about 30 min 0.56 gold per minute. That's just wrong and makes the long trips totally worthless. It also makes land further away worth peanuts. Get a Farm Hauler and make 55 gold per trip and that takes 8 min 6.875 gold per min. Hard to beat that kinda gold per minute using next to nothing for labor.
What pack do you trade that is 55g per 8 mins?
@@radiantshocker6862 it's 4 packs with a farm hauler.
@@shperax ty for the reply mate
You do need to be a resident
I think you probably wont be able to do these packs until the server calms down with onyx, just thinking about having to plant 400 of each of these plants so ill have a weeks worth of trade packs to run hurts my brain
Cool info, never did trade packs but this seems worth it for new players. Im on the hunt to find a method to afford and maintain a dragon which is 30k a month to keep it lol doubt ill ever discover a way to make that much but maybe i can run these packs to get a little gold to flip items in the market, You were the Jedi master of that :P
depending how many alts you have mate... 30k gold per month are steep not impossible though if you burnout xD with 2-3 alts running packs you can make around 1.5-2k gold daily if you use other methods you can hit 3k with your main (laborless) it's all about the way :D
Ahh I see so you are part of the problem why this run doesn't work anymore... How about you just not tell everyone on UA-cam what to do for gold so everyone doesn't flock to it and ruin the method :)
gawd damnit, the secret is out..... damn you!
you need to have land or a house to craft that pack?
Dropped alot since this vid going for about 60ish now
That's around 6 silver per labor. Not really worth it anymore.
why is there patron on unchained ?`???
Because Unchained is working off the base code for Legacy that has Patreon built-in. However, in Unchained Patreon is automatically activated for everyone.
Hii, I know this isn't related to video, but how the heck do I craft faint archeum bundle? I'm lost
Work bench up in diamond shore by the housing zones
Yeah 80% only... This is such a crap.
DragonAlex is there a way for that percent to go up again?
@@helpfulhippo5909 yeah if no one would trade this packs...
The biggest trade off here is the amount of labor you spend per gold gained. Depends on what you value more, your time or labor.
Then again labor is also time lol
@@LoxPlaysVidya true
Shouldn’t you use blue salt bonds on gear or are packs better?
gear isn't in the game yet and money is key right now I would use on gold for a while
Alright,thanks
Anyone knows if I can run Archeage unchained with ryzen 3 CPU and Vega 8 graphics? I'd really love to play but my PC died so I got to buy a new one real quick
Ofcourse you can :)
@@norbertgudek6274 thank you mate!
I'm a system builder if you need help.
Do the BSB packs take another 600 to turn in? 1200 total?
No, it took me the standard 70 to turn in.
@@QPoily ooooh i see. Thanks!
I always thought pack runs were the best S/L... could you name something that may be good if not packs? Doesn’t have to be the best strategy, because I understand how “hard” it is to make money
harvesting wild crops is really good silver per labor but also very time consuming. You can get generally 10-20s per single seed items like wheat, rice, flowers etc... Less time consuming but better silver per labor is crafting specialty items that require high prof to craft like woodlots, dairy pens, golden keys, fishing rods, etc... pretty much if you special in one crafting prof and raising it up non stop you will generally make a ton of money when you reach the high end items that only 1 or 2 people on the server can craft, once the game progresses and many people have max prof then it becomes way less profitable and you always need to be on the look out for market where it has been abandoned by the crafters. A lot of things are always in flux in the markets you got to adapt to what the other players are doing in game.
How do you open that window you open at 6:20?!?
click on the pack buyer is the only way i know you can open it
600 labor for 90g... well if you think that is any good lol
If you think big, it is one of the best methods of making gold. Its about time/gold, labor has nothing to do with it.
Beginning is all about silver/labor not time/gold.
Not true any more since there are lots of quests that can give you gold for doing them but take up time. Raids, world bosses, archepass etc. if make 15 silver per labor but spend all day using your labor and don’t do other daily quests you will greatly miss out on honor vocation Hiram scrolls/infusions etc. time management is the most important thing in the game now
is this legit
yes it is
what are the minimum specs needed to run this game?
Intel core 2 duo 2.13 ghz, 64/32 bits, doesnt matter, 2 gb ram, and 512 mb of vram (i have intel core duo 2.13 ghz , 4 gb ram, and 1 gb vram and it goes at 30-40 fps, but i think they improved this new version of AA)
@@pizzanut180 seems pretty easy to run even with the enhanced graphics, thanks a lot
You have a very biased opinion. I enjoy running packs. I enjoy most of the game that doesn't revolve around your gearscore. PvP is not fun to me. I don't mind dungeons but, i do like me some crafting and farming.
Will unchain have that system that lowers the value of a trade base on the amount traded
Ya, it starts at 130% bonus profit and drops down to 70%~ depending on how many packs have been traded in, you'd probably have to trade in like 50 packs to get to 70% tho
40g mats 600 labor seems a bit steep for 60g plus when the % is down from everyone turning in you get much less
This guy is clueless and hates running packs, to top it off his math is so bad that he does not understand the fact that if he just grinded and opened purses it would be a much better time investment than the shit pack he is doing.
@@InDyingLights absolutely true... investing 40g and 670 labor for one pack isnt worth it at all for ~90g
@@xyyrjhao1542 at beginning before ppl discovered these packs they very very good silver to labor ratio. Iron ingots were very cheap, so most of the time you would gain some silver by getting blue salt bonds. It cost 15 labor and 7g to craft pigment/polish/oil (stocking up on materials when they are on cheaper end). So Pack cost 715 labor and 21 gold to make. With 130 demand thats 88(mahadevi, 5 min runs with clipper), -98(perinoor) gold per pack. So 67-77 gold profit for 715 labor which is very good. As you can see deman was still at 130 % , so don't know what you weebos are raging here about.
he isnt even recording this in unchained.... look at the patron sign....
PTS bro it was both
Yes lets just tell everyone so that the price of the packs plummet lol
I don't think this is profitable at all. You will need 90 onyx archeum essence to craft one trade pack. To get these 90 essences you will roughly need to do 6 ocean trade runs, each of these runs costs around 30g (trade pack + captains protection). 6 x 30g = 180g just to get the ony archeum essence. You can now turn this in for a 90g trade pack... There is no profit.
Check your math bud, you only need 9 essences to make the pack
Quick maffs
Can you make a video on World Bosses, like the ones applicable for ArchePass?
Sorry I don’t have time to do that. Most likely on your server there will be public raid invites to the world bosses at least the ones in the south and then the ones in the north you’ll need to do with your guild probably since they drop better loot and will be highly contested
Theres alot of people that have made world boss videos already
Why aren't u more clear on launch time
Lol...?
Check the archeage discord, dont depend on this guy.