71 years old. Riding for 50 of that. Never been in a club and will never be in a club. I don't need anyone telling me when and where to ride. Just my opinion !
The sunglasses and glove etiquette goes back a long ways. Farmers and country folk always did this, very traditional. Eyes are the window to the soul and shows who you really are.
Absolutely this. Shaking someone's hand with your dirty work gloves sends the message that you have no respect for them, and not taking off your sunglasses and looking them in the eye is like saying "you're not worth my time, respect or honesty." It's a really bad way to start off an interaction. And that carried through from farming, riding horses, etc into the biker culture where one of the biggest insults is disrespectful behavior and treating them like they're beneath you
I wear glasses, put them on in the morning, take them off when I go to bed. When I ride I wear prescription riding glasses that turn dark in the sun. Wearing glasses are such a regular thing in my life that I don't even think about them. I use them to see. It never even occurs to me. I forget.
So , a person just does all the things they should do all the time with everybody . Everything you mention was taught to me by my mother 50 years ago as just being polite
Offense is more often taken than given. So getting mad at somebody saying brother is exactly like getting mad at "micro aggressions." It's snowflake behavior.
I'm certainly not the guy coming to the defense of MC clubs, but I can relate to this. If I don't know you, DON'T be calling me brother. And as for wearing sunglasses during introductions..... bad form anywhere.
You can shake my hand, call me brother… all the while wearing your gloves or shades and I’ll respect you the same. Everything else is childish and mediocre wannabe behaviors that has absolutely zero place in our society.
@@BikersAgainstStupidPeople I didn't serve with you in the military or have any other deep connection to you.... so I'm not going to call you brother. I would suggest you think it through before you say it to others you don't even know. To me it isn't fighting words or anything, just weird.... and I wouldn't plan to chat long with you. If you think it's childish to be concerned about such things, use it the next time you are introduced to an African American man and see how that fares (unless of course you happen to be one yourself).
@@mikeb8342 I use i the term all the time. Take it how you will but I’ve used it towards many people of all races and have never had an issue. Maybe it’s the type of people you associate with. Brother to me is more of a term of endearment rather than some slangy wannabe badass.
@@BikersAgainstStupidPeople it isn't about "badass", it's a term of endearment for someone you are close to. It's certainly not a casual greeting for a complete (or nearly so) stranger you just met. It would be like a man calling a woman he just met in polite company his love. It's just weird. It's not synonymous with "dude" and I don't call anyone "bro". Maybe a regional thing? IDK, but please..... don't call me brother.
You. Like all the others, use your words as a convenience, just like reading the Bible. You can be as bad ass as you wanna be in my club. But you STILL need to have respect for others..like your brothers! A true 1%er lives by a code, NOT RULES. So take your “Lone Wolf” ass out there and getter’dun! Ain’t nobody stopping you you! Let’s see what you got Barney!
If you own a business, and hire family and friends without rules...how well will that go? They'll come late to work, slack off, take shit without paying and run the business to the ground. Rules are made to keep the establishment up. One bad move or decision could cause a Rico act against everyone with a patch. There has to be discipline or it's a free for all and nothing last.
Rolled for 10 years with a patch on my back. We always used our road names during any introductions to include any of the "big" clubs. Your government name was saved for intimate conversations at the appropriate time. Only those I considered my Brothers knew my "real name" everyone else knows me by my road name, and no my road name is not my UA-cam name. Otherwise, I agree. It is all about showing respect as men.
Thats a tricky one though. Guys I ride with know my road name, I dont mind if another rider introduces himself by his and vice versa. In my daily business I'm known by my real name and so are you. If however, some somewhat stranger fellow says " Remember me? I'm Bhudda, met you at Ringo's", thats ok. (That doesn't mean we are brothers. ) Shaking hands with gloves on is a little strange though whoever you are.
Ok he is coming at this as a Christian minister not a 1%, so you should use your real name. And be honest how else will anyone with or without a patch will believe anything you say.
@@bobtwobeers6286 I understand I am a retired life member patch with an MC and then was a patch with an established MM (Motorcycle Ministry) and in both organizations none of us used our legal names. We always used our road names 24/7. This is my personal experience in both sides of the MC world for over a decade, and it applied to both Christian and Non-believer. Thanks.
I hung up my spurs many years ago, waiting for the kids to all be grown. I am older now, maybe two old to sit one anymore but I had thought about something like Bikers for Christ or similar ministry. I'm not in recovery so wouldn't be a fit for y'all but I thank God you are out there doing what you do. God bless, keep and protect you as you lead others out of the darkness.
77 returning hardcore British bike guy. Just bought a 12K mile 02 Triumph Daytona with cans & map by Matt Capri. Stock runs 11 flat & about 3.3 0-60. Should be a couple of tenths quicker as set up. Got inspired by an 83 yo returning ride who bought a Rocket 3
@@mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454 Daytonas are movers, at least they used to be. They corner like they're on rails too. FWIW, mine had fixed foot pegs and I had bevels ground into both sides from cornering on a favorite stretch of road. Mine was a '65.
@@KyleCowden In that day I was big on Norton. Specifically a built Dominator that beat everything off the line in the day but could still do the ton easily. The Daytona 955i will at least dispose of all stock Harleys and about everything else except Gixxers, busas & ninjas. So after not riding for decades I wanted something with a little punch so I didn’t feel like a Model A driver or such. I still feel the need. Ended up zeroing in specifically on 02 to 04 955i Daytonas. Seems like a reasonable update for modern times. Looked at almost everything from 1965 to about 2015 and that model Daytona in silver called my name & a great friend helped facilitate it so it didn’t get sold to the next in line. It is in transit now, arriving soon. And I feel like I’m 25 again. Except for the amount of liniment per hundred miles lol.
Thanks for the video guys.. Bikers! remember! its all about making sure when the circle jerk is taking place, YOU GET INVITED!. so make sure new biker "friends" know you can really know the rules. Please make a video on assless chap etiquette also! when and when not to wear them and whether to have jeans or nothing on underneath.
As an ex MC member, you're pretty much spot on, except if you're in colours ( club patches) you don't take them off for anyone, club or not..also don't interrupt 2 club members talking, if you're not in the conversation, stay out of it... They'll notice you wanted to say something ,it can most likely wait ..ride safe 😎😎
Doesn’t always work that way bud. You may die for refusing, depending on what club you’re dealing with. If you followed proper protocol and made a phone call for authorization to fly through then you likely won’t have an issue.
So if their bikes just got run over by a semi and are on fire in the parking lot, you should just stand there like a dummy until they acknowledge you? Got it.
I think what they meant was people who are part of Broken Chains should take off their vest. If someone is already in a MC and doesn't know to stand their ground with their colors, they're either a total dunce of a prospect... Or in a weekend warrior MC that's a total joke. But if you're not in a MC, and they tell you to take off your vest... You damn well take it off. (See my main video comment for my reasons behind that)
I've ridden for over 50 years now. Ridden along with clubs, been a member of a club, gone to BIG (and small) gatherings, and numerous club parties. And not once, EVER have I had an issue. Mainly because I show due respect and walk humbly. (Seen more than a few beatdowns, though)
I had a friend in the Army that did one enlistment, got out in California and became a Hells Angels prospect. He was married and had a son that he eventually learned was profoundly autistic, so he reenlisted in the Army a number of years later for the medical stability they provided. He was a really cool guy, he taught me more on guitar that anyone else ever did, and we’d go out riding motorcycles a couple of times a week. We were going to a bar outside of Fort Polk one night, and I showed up at his place with a Brooks riding jacket on. He said to me “Why don’t you take that off?” I asked why and he said it’s 95 degrees out, and it’s not Halloween. I saw his point and left the jacket in his garage. He did have his HA cut hanging up in his garage right next to an American flag.
I have been around MCs for over 40 years, and the one thing I learn is the word "neighbor" works all the time, it shows respect and friendship, I am bad at remembering names, so I started using Neighbor back in the 70s, and most get A kick out of it, after all we are all neighbors, this one guy I knew I think he thought him name was neighbor that was all I ever call him, everyone called him shorty he was 6'3", I'm 6'5" and could not call him shorty it just did not fell right so neighbor it was, before long everyone was calling him neighbor, he was in the Bandidos and A few hanged out at an ice house my grandfather hug out in when I was growing up he and the owner was on the same ship at pearl harbor and after the war they stayed friend's. they always showed me the same respect I showed them, even if I was on A rice burner, and not my HD. you know how bad those AMF hd where, Hondas always ran.
So do Hinckley Triumphs. My new to me 12K mile 02 Daytona 955i is faster than any stock Harley. And a top end of about 155. As a sub 150 lb past retirement guy I don’t want to have to flog 800 lbs of bike. I like the Harley potato potato idle but that parallel triple whine near 10,000rpm really gets my pulse going v
Well done. Spot on. There is nothing worse than watching an otherwise uneducated or ignorant rider who doesn't understand the protocols (or ignores them) getting confronted, surrounded, and chewed up one side and then the other by 1%'ers who took notice of their lack of respect, lack of protocols, and/or the posing/posturing. The initial approach is key and you demonstrated it perfectly.
Loved this video, took me a second to figure out that you were a Christian motorcycle club. The celebrate recovery shirt should have been a give away. Keep up the mission brothers.
I'm going to form a motorcycle club for older women like myself. We will ride Italian step through scooters and we'll be called the Vesparados. Do you think that will be seen as a threat to 1%ers?
Boy, a lot of experts chiming in on this. I have been riding forever and I am big enough to admit I had no clue on this stuff. Just got my first HD and I appreciate the tips.
Love it good video on teaching people basic respect I don’t consider being respectful and act right rules but I guess that’s why there rules to help teach
:-) I smile a respectful smile. This video was not what I expected. Good video. Thx. I was a cop for 25 years. I learned that if you treat them with respect, they'll give respect back. They won't be your friend, but won't hurt you either. It's all about respect. Its like you said. I had a member of the Bandidos befriend me once, knowing I was a cop. Never forgot that. Someday I'll be in a Cafe or restaurant and see a Bandido. When I do, I'll buy his meal.
God bless N.Leader Abe Unashamed here. I've met a few of your members in AZ and NM. keep on creating content. If you guys need any video content in Arizona for your club just ask. ML&R
Uhm.....no. You're right about no gloves or sunglasses. That being said: -If you're in a club, and in colors, you typically introduce yourself by your road name. -If you're in a club, and in colors, ypu don't take those colors off for ANYBODY. -If you're not in a club, then 99% of the time, nobody is gonna tell you to take your vest off, unless you've got a patch on it that you ought not have, or that you didn't earn.
@@danwalker9999 that's fine for you. This life ain't for everyone. But just like any other facet of life, there are rules and accepted procedures. Ours just carry heavier consequences
MC rules apply to MC members only....somewhere along the line they got the impression that everyone else who rides a bike should either care or also follow their rules. Play in your own silly little world. Don't try to impose it on everyone else.
It's a matter of respect, period. Folks can't look you in the eye with shades, and not taking your gloves off makes me wonder what they're hiding. I'm not in a MC, but knew a lot of folks that were in my younger days.
The glove thing isn't about hiding something. Gloves are worn to protect your hands, whether riding, wrenching, or fighting. They're covered in bugs, grease, dirt, and blood. Why would you wipe that filth on another man, that you're supposedly greeting?
@@deangullberry5148, A lot of guys don't wash their hands, after going to the restroom. Why would you want that filth on your hands? And this isn't a biker movie. I'm betting that a lot of bikers (including club members) don't have greasy and bloody gloves. I get the sunglasses thing, and I can even get the glove thing, to a degree. It seems odd, to wear gloves, unless fingerless, just walking around, or to shake with. Your reasoning was easily flipped, though.
Hey - no fare. I tried to find a way to contact you in the 'About Section". Your Etiquette comes from basic respect for another individual. That impressed me. I had an idea regarding Motorcycle Safety I wanted to share. And can you get involved? I am certified by, but am not associated with nor represent the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. I feel their message should resonate far more considering just in 2019, over 5,000 motorcyclists lost their lives in accidents, and some 70,000 were injured. I tried to contact them about an idea, but they seemed to be closed for the season. I wear a reflective vest and have thought all day how cool it would be to have an MSF Patch on its back. Could you imagine bikers of all sorts starting to see folks with the MSF patch, Nation and even worldwide, and then learning that it is a standard, if to be considered competent in one's biking? There was a guy that illegally zoomed by today while I maintained cushion space at a light on Rt1 South. I wonder if instead he saw MSF patches on bikers sitting at a light, would he think about it, and what he is doing? Would he wonder what MSF was, and was he some fool? Now imagine MSF Rides and furthered awareness at Biker Fests etc. I feel eventually many bikers might want to get with the program and where the MSF colors too with their other patches. Thanks for reading this - be well
I understand your idea, but that's not something that most riders, or at least bikers (compared to motorcyclists) will want to do. The M.S.F. course is great, but most people don't take the other ones. It would be good to do, but you gain experience, everyday that you ride, too. People (bikers, at least) will see wearing that patch as nerdy. Showing your skills on the road instead of your vest is best. And speed doesn't necessarily mean unsafe. It's how you ride; that includes how observant you are, and quick you are to react. Also, you might consider getting some of your own patches made in reflective thread, instead of wearing a reflective vest. That way, you can have a regular vest that you can put patches on. You could also get some reflective stitching done on it.
Question if i may, what's passing edict? On a one lane is it ok to pass club riders on the left? On a double lane is it cool to pass in the lane the're not using?
Theres power in numbers & colors represent power units. Appearances that intimidate are intentional as are egos. Stealth has advantage because it posses that element of doubt especially in those who do not particularly wish to be bullied or intimidated.
You talked about vests a little. I have a vest that is just a Harley vest. No patches, but does have Harley Davidson over the breast pocket and has the big Harley logo on the back. Would this be offensive to anyone?
I was asked to take my patched up riding vest off by well known biker gang in Washington a few years back ! I told the 3 guys who walked up and demanded I take it off “I’m not taking off shit and this is a protect your ground state and by the video cameras all around YOU just walked up on me and I have 2 pistols with enough ammo to take all 3 of you out and all your buddies you brought with you! So go ahead and do what you do and ima do what I do !” They didn’t like that but IDGAF they ALL walked away smiling and talking shit! I paid for my shit and earned my patches through MY BROTHERS WHO TF IS ANYONE TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANT DO!! You can try that shit with normal people but with someone like me you’ll get killed trying to take something off my body!!
Hey guys, I got a question. I´m a Harley rider and do not belong to any club, and am not looking to do either. However I love the impression and look of a vest with patches and am wondering what patches besides "1%", "MC" and your title/position that is a no go if I´d patch a vest up for myself? Is there any videos on this subject maybe? Cheers
I know this is an old comment but I wear a vest and patch it up with my own likings. I have a American flag, HOG Rider Group member patches from HD, different rallies or rides I’ve done such as Biketoberfest, Sturgis, ect. I also have a HD eagle wing and two separate name patches with my dogs name and the year they passed away. I don’t think any of these are disrespectful. I patch my vest with me in mind and the things I enjoy. I don’t patch my vest trying to be someone I’m not. I don’t wear rockers, club names and I definitely don’t buy the vests that are prepatched from Amazon. I only patch with things I love with no “gang” affiliation symbols or names.
And for the record “I CALL EVERY OTHER MAN BROTHER!” Because we ARE ALL GODS CHILDREN!! I’ll call anyone BROTHER that I want to! They can ask me politely not too but direct disrespect will be answered with the same energy
Maybe the pirates should spend time learning to ride well, before worrying about the silly erotic pirate rituals… 😂 Exhibit A: Almost every Harley dude I’ve ever seen dragging his feet just before stopping. Exhibit B: Stop and watch them at any gas station in route to Sturgis. It looks like a duck convention. Exhibit C: Terrified to lean and really stoked to drag (both kinds) ;-) I’m pullin’ your pony tail a little 😊
I don't wear a vest. If I did, it probably wouldn't have a bunch of patches on it (well... maybe some of my unit patches from my grunt days on the front). I see no reason why anyone would ask me to remove my vest (short of bullying people), and less of a reason for me to comply (especially if I DO have some military patches on it). I get there's this whole "three patches" thing and while I don't really care about that, I don't plan on putting MC patches on any jacket or vest. What I don't get is if I'm in a public space (as opposed to their private property) they feel they have authority to tell me I can't wear a vest (or pass them in an adjacent lane, or whatever). I really hope I don't find myself in a situation to find out, but I'm pretty sure if force is applied to coerce me into doing/not doing something I legally and morally can do, it won't end well..... and that doesn't mean for me. Happy trails/lanes to all.
@The Screaming Chicken I can see how someone might call several rogue LEOs working together a gang..... but the military? BTDT and NEVER did we operate as a gang. Sorry there darling.... rules do not equal gang. A group committing crime defines a gang.
Sun glasses and gloves are a definite no .But I use my road/club never had any issues .Was asked last week to take my cut off at bar ,a bar I go ,and worn my cut in there before told them i would finish my drink and leave don't take it off for nobody.A d my money spends everywhere
71 years old. Riding for 50 of that. Never been in a club and will never be in a club. I don't need anyone telling me when and where to ride. Just my opinion !
61, 43 years riding and feel the same. I'll give a patch holder any deserved respect but don't need any patch to enjoy a ride
Damn they even tell their fellow riders when AND where to ride while being in a club?
Pathetic!
Exactly
love riding don't need the BS. it seems they have more rules than the army.😂
Don’t need a patch to be a biker
The sunglasses and glove etiquette goes back a long ways. Farmers and country folk always did this, very traditional. Eyes are the window to the soul and shows who you really are.
Right
Absolutely this. Shaking someone's hand with your dirty work gloves sends the message that you have no respect for them, and not taking off your sunglasses and looking them in the eye is like saying "you're not worth my time, respect or honesty."
It's a really bad way to start off an interaction. And that carried through from farming, riding horses, etc into the biker culture where one of the biggest insults is disrespectful behavior and treating them like they're beneath you
I wear glasses, put them on in the morning, take them off when I go to bed. When I ride I wear prescription riding glasses that turn dark in the sun. Wearing glasses are such a regular thing in my life that I don't even think about them. I use them to see. It never even occurs to me. I forget.
Nuts!!
So , a person just does all the things they should do all the time with everybody . Everything you mention was taught to me by my mother 50 years ago as just being polite
Actually…it’s called RESPECTFUL. If your mom taught you that? Good on her. It’s really that easy.
DINGUS 1%er
Do you include taking off a vest if asked? My mother never taught me that one....
Out in the sticks.... I had a notification that you responded to me but it's not here. Deleted?
@@mikeb8342 it shows on my end , just said that I have never worn a vest , so unable to comment on that
thats the best advice...just be cool and be yourself..be polite
Offense is more often taken than given. So getting mad at somebody saying brother is exactly like getting mad at "micro aggressions." It's snowflake behavior.
I'm certainly not the guy coming to the defense of MC clubs, but I can relate to this. If I don't know you, DON'T be calling me brother. And as for wearing sunglasses during introductions..... bad form anywhere.
You can shake my hand, call me brother… all the while wearing your gloves or shades and I’ll respect you the same.
Everything else is childish and mediocre wannabe behaviors that has absolutely zero place in our society.
@@BikersAgainstStupidPeople I didn't serve with you in the military or have any other deep connection to you.... so I'm not going to call you brother. I would suggest you think it through before you say it to others you don't even know. To me it isn't fighting words or anything, just weird.... and I wouldn't plan to chat long with you. If you think it's childish to be concerned about such things, use it the next time you are introduced to an African American man and see how that fares (unless of course you happen to be one yourself).
@@mikeb8342 I use i the term all the time. Take it how you will but I’ve used it towards many people of all races and have never had an issue.
Maybe it’s the type of people you associate with. Brother to me is more of a term of endearment rather than some slangy wannabe badass.
@@BikersAgainstStupidPeople it isn't about "badass", it's a term of endearment for someone you are close to. It's certainly not a casual greeting for a complete (or nearly so) stranger you just met. It would be like a man calling a woman he just met in polite company his love. It's just weird. It's not synonymous with "dude" and I don't call anyone "bro". Maybe a regional thing? IDK, but please..... don't call me brother.
Too many rules in mc’s. That’s why I ride alone. They call themselves outlaws and 1%ers, but have more rules than anybody.
You. Like all the others, use your words as a convenience, just like reading the Bible. You can be as bad ass as you wanna be in my club. But you STILL need to have respect for others..like your brothers! A true 1%er lives by a code, NOT RULES. So take your “Lone Wolf” ass out there and getter’dun! Ain’t nobody stopping you you! Let’s see what you got Barney!
Wtf Dingus? I'm not your brother remember
@@dirtydingus5465 he right to many I would never join or be a follower of anybody and I only listen to myself
@@garyny4073 that's right. Same.
If you own a business, and hire family and friends without rules...how well will that go? They'll come late to work, slack off, take shit without paying and run the business to the ground. Rules are made to keep the establishment up. One bad move or decision could cause a Rico act against everyone with a patch. There has to be discipline or it's a free for all and nothing last.
Rolled for 10 years with a patch on my back. We always used our road names during any introductions to include any of the "big" clubs. Your government name was saved for intimate conversations at the appropriate time. Only those I considered my Brothers knew my "real name" everyone else knows me by my road name, and no my road name is not my UA-cam name. Otherwise, I agree. It is all about showing respect as men.
Yep same here
You are correct. We use road names. Real names are for brothers.
Thats a tricky one though. Guys I ride with know my road name, I dont mind if another rider introduces himself by his and vice versa. In my daily business I'm known by my real name and so are you. If however, some somewhat stranger fellow says " Remember me? I'm Bhudda, met you at Ringo's", thats ok. (That doesn't mean we are brothers. ) Shaking hands with gloves on is a little strange though whoever you are.
Ok he is coming at this as a Christian minister not a 1%, so you should use your real name. And be honest how else will anyone with or without a patch will believe anything you say.
@@bobtwobeers6286 I understand I am a retired life member patch with an MC and then was a patch with an established MM (Motorcycle Ministry) and in both organizations none of us used our legal names. We always used our road names 24/7. This is my personal experience in both sides of the MC world for over a decade, and it applied to both Christian and Non-believer. Thanks.
I hung up my spurs many years ago, waiting for the kids to all be grown. I am older now, maybe two old to sit one anymore but I had thought about something like Bikers for Christ or similar ministry. I'm not in recovery so wouldn't be a fit for y'all but I thank God you are out there doing what you do. God bless, keep and protect you as you lead others out of the darkness.
Never to old.
77 returning hardcore British bike guy. Just bought a 12K mile 02 Triumph Daytona with cans & map by Matt Capri. Stock runs 11 flat & about 3.3 0-60. Should be a couple of tenths quicker as set up. Got inspired by an 83 yo returning ride who bought a Rocket 3
@@mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454 Daytonas are movers, at least they used to be. They corner like they're on rails too. FWIW, mine had fixed foot pegs and I had bevels ground into both sides from cornering on a favorite stretch of road. Mine was a '65.
@@KyleCowden All the reviews I have seen say it’s still like that.
@@KyleCowden In that day I was big on Norton. Specifically a built Dominator that beat everything off the line in the day but could still do the ton easily. The Daytona 955i will at least dispose of all stock Harleys and about everything else except Gixxers, busas & ninjas. So after not riding for decades I wanted something with a little punch so I didn’t feel like a Model A driver or such. I still feel the need. Ended up zeroing in specifically on 02 to 04 955i Daytonas.
Seems like a reasonable update for modern times. Looked at almost everything from 1965 to about 2015 and that model Daytona in silver called my name & a great friend helped facilitate it so it didn’t get sold to the next in line.
It is in transit now, arriving soon. And I feel like I’m 25 again. Except for the amount of liniment per hundred miles lol.
Respect isn't a reflection of another's character, but of yours.
And that's how I operate.
Bikers getting offended is as sure as the sun rising.
That's more of a club thing.
Thanks for the video guys.. Bikers! remember! its all about making sure when the circle jerk is taking place, YOU GET INVITED!. so make sure new biker "friends" know you can really know the rules. Please make a video on assless chap etiquette also! when and when not to wear them and whether to have jeans or nothing on underneath.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Never ever wear those
Amazing that common courtesy and manners need to be taught on UA-cam. Kudos gentleman.
As an ex MC member, you're pretty much spot on, except if you're in colours ( club patches) you don't take them off for anyone, club or not..also don't interrupt 2 club members talking, if you're not in the conversation, stay out of it...
They'll notice you wanted to say something ,it can most likely wait ..ride safe 😎😎
Doesn’t always work that way bud. You may die for refusing, depending on what club you’re dealing with. If you followed proper protocol and made a phone call for authorization to fly through then you likely won’t have an issue.
@@shiner2505 agreed , should always call ahead..
So if their bikes just got run over by a semi and are on fire in the parking lot, you should just stand there like a dummy until they acknowledge you? Got it.
@@benpress8884what? That's not at all the same thing as not interrupting a conversation. 🤦🏻♂️
I think what they meant was people who are part of Broken Chains should take off their vest. If someone is already in a MC and doesn't know to stand their ground with their colors, they're either a total dunce of a prospect... Or in a weekend warrior MC that's a total joke. But if you're not in a MC, and they tell you to take off your vest... You damn well take it off. (See my main video comment for my reasons behind that)
Vous êtes des BIKER'S ki on du cœur. Force aux Hordes super vos fringues.. Superbe vidéos merci. Respect à vous. 🇨🇵🙏🖤😎
I've ridden for over 50 years now. Ridden along with clubs, been a member of a club, gone to BIG (and small) gatherings, and numerous club parties. And not once, EVER have I had an issue. Mainly because I show due respect and walk humbly.
(Seen more than a few beatdowns, though)
But, what I wanted to know, was how you place your knifes, forks and spoons next to your dinner plate ?
Simple, to the point, effective. Great job.
Godspeed and Blessings for You and Yours
Thanks Jeff. Met you a couple years ago at Biker Sunday in PA. Steve from NY
I had a friend in the Army that did one enlistment, got out in California and became a Hells Angels prospect. He was married and had a son that he eventually learned was profoundly autistic, so he reenlisted in the Army a number of years later for the medical stability they provided.
He was a really cool guy, he taught me more on guitar that anyone else ever did, and we’d go out riding motorcycles a couple of times a week. We were going to a bar outside of Fort Polk one night, and I showed up at his place with a Brooks riding jacket on. He said to me “Why don’t you take that off?” I asked why and he said it’s 95 degrees out, and it’s not Halloween. I saw his point and left the jacket in his garage.
He did have his HA cut hanging up in his garage right next to an American flag.
Subscribed to your channel. Love the message. God bless
What if a guy walked up and demanded that he needed my clothes, my boots, and my motorcycle? Should I fight him, or give it to him?
If he forgets to say please you should at least put your cigar out on his chest, but you may regret it
I can hear your comment 🤣
Try putting a cigar out on his chest first to see if that deters him.
Don't try to fight him ,he is the terminator
What you said about Jesus Christ was enough for me.... God bless you....
That was pure Truth....
Subbed as soon as I heard that
I have been around MCs for over 40 years, and the one thing I learn is the word "neighbor" works all the time, it shows respect and friendship, I am bad at remembering names, so I started using Neighbor back in the 70s, and most get A kick out of it, after all we are all neighbors, this one guy I knew I think he thought him name was neighbor that was all I ever call him, everyone called him shorty he was 6'3", I'm 6'5" and could not call him shorty it just did not fell right so neighbor it was, before long everyone was calling him neighbor, he was in the Bandidos and A few hanged out at an ice house my grandfather hug out in when I was growing up he and the owner was on the same ship at pearl harbor and after the war they stayed friend's. they always showed me the same respect I showed them, even if I was on A rice burner, and not my HD. you know how bad those AMF hd where, Hondas always ran.
So do Hinckley Triumphs. My new to me 12K mile 02 Daytona 955i is faster than any stock Harley. And a top end of about 155. As a sub 150 lb past retirement guy I don’t want to have to flog 800 lbs of bike. I like the Harley potato potato idle but that parallel triple whine near 10,000rpm really gets my pulse going v
Now everybody seems to want one. Shovel heads. Me I like EVO’s
“We find our identity in Jesus Christ.” Love this video. We all need to earn the respect. Take it off if you don’t deserve it!
Amen. And Amen.
No. You don't take your own vest off. That makes no sense. That's not even respect. It's cowering.
Thank you kindly for the friendly and important video. MLLH&R, stay safe out there and keep the rubber bagels pointed down.
Great video for all motorcyclists! Well done sir!
Love the video. It not only teaches respect, but then finishes with love.
Well done. Spot on. There is nothing worse than watching an otherwise uneducated or ignorant rider who doesn't understand the protocols (or ignores them) getting confronted, surrounded, and chewed up one side and then the other by 1%'ers who took notice of their lack of respect, lack of protocols, and/or the posing/posturing. The initial approach is key and you demonstrated it perfectly.
Thanks for the advice, Ride safe, and God Bless you. Keep the Faith.
Loved this video, took me a second to figure out that you were a Christian motorcycle club. The celebrate recovery shirt should have been a give away.
Keep up the mission brothers.
I'm going to form a motorcycle club for older women like myself. We will ride Italian step through scooters and we'll be called the Vesparados. Do you think that will be seen as a threat to 1%ers?
You won't get that name sanctioned.
Damn right, we ain't them and there is no communication if we don't respect them. There can never be a true ministry without understanding. God bless
Good video. Subscribed! In fact, I'm your 666th subscriber!
Some people new to the biking culture need to learn it's common courtesy. Respect begets respect , in any culture.
Rules to live by. Whether you Ride or not. You have to show respect to get respect. Even in a McDonalds.
Great video! Thanks for uploading!
How do you ask on out to prom?
Amen. Great video. Thanks!
You’re right on everything except the name. You absolutely introduce yourself using your road name followed by club name and territory if applicable.
Is it ok if I wear a vest, helmet and ride a bike with turn signals? I don't want to offend any overly sensitive bikers.
Ha, ha
Holy cow. I clicked on this just cuz I saw the CR shirt and # in the background. Interesting missionaries right here. ❤
I was on a traffic light, Pagans pulled behind me, as soon as that light turned green, I pulled into the shoulder and let them pass.
Boy, a lot of experts chiming in on this. I have been riding forever and I am big enough to admit I had no clue on this stuff. Just got my first HD and I appreciate the tips.
Solid advice. In a CR got as well and need to get back on two wheels.
Blessings to you both.
Can you make a video explaining how to pass. I'm saving up for a motorcycle and a class and I would like to be on the open road with no trouble
Love it good video on teaching people basic respect I don’t consider being respectful and act right rules but I guess that’s why there rules to help teach
:-) I smile a respectful smile. This video was not what I expected. Good video. Thx. I was a cop for 25 years. I learned that if you treat them with respect, they'll give respect back. They won't be your friend, but won't hurt you either. It's all about respect. Its like you said. I had a member of the Bandidos befriend me once, knowing I was a cop. Never forgot that. Someday I'll be in a Cafe or restaurant and see a Bandido. When I do, I'll buy his meal.
God bless N.Leader Abe Unashamed here. I've met a few of your members in AZ and NM. keep on creating content. If you guys need any video content in Arizona for your club just ask. ML&R
Thank you for this video.
I love how these tough guys go around getting offended
Why don't you tell them that to their face.
It's not about getting offended. It's all RESPECT. It stems from the Military.
You should prob stick to sniffing your pinky, or as Graham says..say it to their faces..
I'm sure you do....from a distance.
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Uhm.....no.
You're right about no gloves or sunglasses. That being said:
-If you're in a club, and in colors, you typically introduce yourself by your road name.
-If you're in a club, and in colors, ypu don't take those colors off for ANYBODY.
-If you're not in a club, then 99% of the time, nobody is gonna tell you to take your vest off, unless you've got a patch on it that you ought not have, or that you didn't earn.
I can't even remotely understand why anyone would want to be part of an organization that you would have to worry about this silly kindergarten stuff.
@@danwalker9999 that's fine for you. This life ain't for everyone. But just like any other facet of life, there are rules and accepted procedures. Ours just carry heavier consequences
MC rules apply to MC members only....somewhere along the line they got the impression that everyone else who rides a bike should either care or also follow their rules. Play in your own silly little world. Don't try to impose it on everyone else.
It's a matter of respect, period. Folks can't look you in the eye with shades, and not taking your gloves off makes me wonder what they're hiding. I'm not in a MC, but knew a lot of folks that were in my younger days.
Different type back in the days ?
The glove thing isn't about hiding something.
Gloves are worn to protect your hands, whether riding, wrenching, or fighting. They're covered in bugs, grease, dirt, and blood. Why would you wipe that filth on another man, that you're supposedly greeting?
@@deangullberry5148 Good point.
@@deangullberry5148,
A lot of guys don't wash their hands, after going to the restroom. Why would you want that filth on your hands? And this isn't a biker movie. I'm betting that a lot of bikers (including club members) don't have greasy and bloody gloves. I get the sunglasses thing, and I can even get the glove thing, to a degree. It seems odd, to wear gloves, unless fingerless, just walking around, or to shake with. Your reasoning was easily flipped, though.
Great video for humanity.
Any problem with wearing my Harley leathers while riding a Victory Kingpin?
I'll never have that problem I'm not making introductions to a one percenter Club anymore than I would the Crips or the Bloods or MS-13.
And take off those patches too. Wanna b
I avoid all motorcycle club drama and man child bs by riding a honda and not dressing like a Willie Nelson pirate.
Thank you for sharing. You are probably the coolest dude on UA-cam right now.
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@@BadazzShovelhead 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You sound fun at parties
I agree
I'll just ride solo and do the motorcycle wave and say nice bike.
Kudos for your use and identification in Jesus Christ! Fellow rider, non-MC, of a 16'HD Vrod
thank you! useful info to know!
Hey - no fare. I tried to find a way to contact you in the 'About Section". Your Etiquette comes from basic respect for another individual. That impressed me. I had an idea regarding Motorcycle Safety I wanted to share. And can you get involved?
I am certified by, but am not associated with nor represent the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. I feel their message should resonate far more considering just in 2019, over 5,000 motorcyclists lost their lives in accidents, and some 70,000 were injured. I tried to contact them about an idea, but they seemed to be closed for the season.
I wear a reflective vest and have thought all day how cool it would be to have an MSF Patch on its back. Could you imagine bikers of all sorts starting to see folks with the MSF patch, Nation and even worldwide, and then learning that it is a standard, if to be considered competent in one's biking?
There was a guy that illegally zoomed by today while I maintained cushion space at a light on Rt1 South. I wonder if instead he saw MSF patches on bikers sitting at a light, would he think about it, and what he is doing? Would he wonder what MSF was, and was he some fool?
Now imagine MSF Rides and furthered awareness at Biker Fests etc. I feel eventually many bikers might want to get with the program and where the MSF colors too with their other patches.
Thanks for reading this - be well
I understand your idea, but that's not something that most riders, or at least bikers (compared to motorcyclists) will want to do. The M.S.F. course is great, but most people don't take the other ones. It would be good to do, but you gain experience, everyday that you ride, too. People (bikers, at least) will see wearing that patch as nerdy. Showing your skills on the road instead of your vest is best. And speed doesn't necessarily mean unsafe. It's how you ride; that includes how observant you are, and quick you are to react.
Also, you might consider getting some of your own patches made in reflective thread, instead of wearing a reflective vest. That way, you can have a regular vest that you can put patches on. You could also get some reflective stitching done on it.
@@RayfordRaySiegel Thanks for your reply !
I've always found that a good headbutt is the perfect introduction and icebreaker.😎
I just did it tonight. Hi, I'm Dan from the Commandos and shook his hand.
Question if i may, what's passing edict?
On a one lane is it ok to pass club riders on the left? On a double lane is it cool to pass in the lane the're not using?
Theres power in numbers & colors represent power units. Appearances that intimidate are intentional as are egos. Stealth has advantage because it posses that element of doubt especially in those who do not particularly wish to be bullied or intimidated.
Can I make a correction. Club. Standing. Then Name.
I saw a guy with a black bandanna under his bike, what does that stand for
If I take my vest off can I take my 45 out of the pocket first?
Hey guys I had a quick question ? Could I wear a side rocker that is Christian themes ? Not claiming any territory or club names ?
GOOD STUFF,,,THANKS FOR THE PROTOCOL
God bless you.
If the two gentlemen hosting this video had a wash and a shave I'd take them seriously.
Broken chains try a Moto guzzi or a BMW they have shaft drive never have to worry about a broken chain
I rode in a club for many years and this video is good but add one more thing be polite and never approach when two patches are talking
You talked about vests a little. I have a vest that is just a Harley vest. No patches, but does have Harley Davidson over the breast pocket and has the big Harley logo on the back. Would this be offensive to anyone?
I was asked to take my patched up riding vest off by well known biker gang in Washington a few years back ! I told the 3 guys who walked up and demanded I take it off “I’m not taking off shit and this is a protect your ground state and by the video cameras all around YOU just walked up on me and I have 2 pistols with enough ammo to take all 3 of you out and all your buddies you brought with you! So go ahead and do what you do and ima do what I do !” They didn’t like that but IDGAF they ALL walked away smiling and talking shit! I paid for my shit and earned my patches through MY BROTHERS WHO TF IS ANYONE TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANT DO!! You can try that shit with normal people but with someone like me you’ll get killed trying to take something off my body!!
I don't have time to meet them because I'm too busy riding!
It's fun to stay at the, Y.M.C.A.!!
It depends how close you're from the chapter or the MC
do you think wearing a burka could cause offense
Freedom, if you follow all the rules. Of course if a drunk Outlaw decides to do some stuff all your protocol don't mean nothing
If you find yourself within proximity of an Outlaw or other M.C. you have already screwed up and made several poor choices.
@@brentharrington9235 I did ministry to Outlaw Bikers for over 25 years, it can get really tricky, quick. No need to get in the flow otherwise
Great tip...big respect! Thank you for sharing.
Hey guys, I got a question. I´m a Harley rider and do not belong to any club, and am not looking to do either. However I love the impression and look of a vest with patches and am wondering what patches besides "1%", "MC" and your title/position that is a no go if I´d patch a vest up for myself? Is there any videos on this subject maybe? Cheers
How about a patch of pig on the back of your vest. It could say "Mild Hog"
I know this is an old comment but I wear a vest and patch it up with my own likings. I have a American flag, HOG Rider Group member patches from HD, different rallies or rides I’ve done such as Biketoberfest, Sturgis, ect. I also have a HD eagle wing and two separate name patches with my dogs name and the year they passed away. I don’t think any of these are disrespectful.
I patch my vest with me in mind and the things I enjoy. I don’t patch my vest trying to be someone I’m not. I don’t wear rockers, club names and I definitely don’t buy the vests that are prepatched from Amazon. I only patch with things I love with no “gang” affiliation symbols or names.
Thank you fellas. I just bought my first HD motorcycle. Don’t know what to expect
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@@bobbys4327 lol!! Good one!!
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Great advice, never cut there circle is something to think about
I never thought bikers could be such sensitive people
Absolutely a needed video! >subscribed
I just give them a head bob and keep walking.
Call me chicken shit or whatever.
“ I don’t want a fickle , I just wanna ride my motor cickle “.
Seems like simple rules that most gentleman should follow.
So essentially be polite and show each other respect
Things my parents taught me 50 years ago.... Ride safely, everyone.
Great video
And for the record “I CALL EVERY OTHER MAN BROTHER!” Because we ARE ALL GODS CHILDREN!! I’ll call anyone BROTHER that I want to! They can ask me politely not too but direct disrespect will be answered with the same energy
Thanks for the info to how to met a biker
Maybe the pirates should spend time learning to ride well, before worrying about the silly erotic pirate rituals… 😂
Exhibit A: Almost every Harley dude I’ve ever seen dragging his feet just before stopping.
Exhibit B: Stop and watch them at any gas station in route to Sturgis. It looks like a duck convention.
Exhibit C: Terrified to lean and really stoked to drag (both kinds) ;-)
I’m pullin’ your pony tail a little 😊
What if I take pride in my vest an my recovery. An don't take my vest off
Cheers fellas!
Great vid.
I don't wear a vest. If I did, it probably wouldn't have a bunch of patches on it (well... maybe some of my unit patches from my grunt days on the front). I see no reason why anyone would ask me to remove my vest (short of bullying people), and less of a reason for me to comply (especially if I DO have some military patches on it). I get there's this whole "three patches" thing and while I don't really care about that, I don't plan on putting MC patches on any jacket or vest. What I don't get is if I'm in a public space (as opposed to their private property) they feel they have authority to tell me I can't wear a vest (or pass them in an adjacent lane, or whatever). I really hope I don't find myself in a situation to find out, but I'm pretty sure if force is applied to coerce me into doing/not doing something I legally and morally can do, it won't end well..... and that doesn't mean for me.
Happy trails/lanes to all.
@The Screaming Chicken I can see how someone might call several rogue LEOs working together a gang..... but the military? BTDT and NEVER did we operate as a gang. Sorry there darling.... rules do not equal gang. A group committing crime defines a gang.
Sun glasses and gloves are a definite no .But I use my road/club never had any issues .Was asked last week to take my cut off at bar ,a bar I go ,and worn my cut in there before told them i would finish my drink and leave don't take it off for nobody.A d my money spends everywhere
Biker Etiquette? More like mama teach me how to treat people with respect first day of school. Cool video though~ and funny too 😂