The rules of a non club member is that there are no rules. That's the beauty of it. You don't have to follow someone else's rules. You can be your own man.
"You don't have to follow someone else's rules" except Your wife, your parents, the police, your boss, the (City, County, State, or Federal) Government , your HOA, teachers... I guess you never served in the Military either. Yea, be your own man. No one's forcing anyone to be in an MC. If that's not your gig, have at it and enjoy your riding because in the end, that's what it's all about.
@@aaronwokaty7079 respect is a two-way street. I personally don't "give" respect, respect is earned. And why do you feel you get to teach people, that's disrespectful. I don't know you, but we might not get along to good.
As a OMC 1% member, I just base everything off of respect. I keep it simple and easy. I’m not going to randomly mess with anyone, I’m not going to “patch police” anyone, I’m not going to degrade anyone, those days are gone as they should be. My club knows how I feel about that sh*t. I treat independents and RC’s the same way I’d treat another 1%. If you aren’t stepping on my toes, impeding on my life, or being disrespectful then you aren’t my problem or concern.
Thank you very much for the reply and for watching. I try to tell folks to just be respectful and everything will be good. Thanks again and much respect.
@@BigSmittyRiding Yep, I’m not saying there aren’t some a-holes out there, but usually basic common sense will go a long way and everything will be fine. MLH&R Smitty.
I'm a US Marine, and looked into joining one of the USMC clubs about 10 years ago. I rode as a "prospect" for a few months, and got sick of the rules. I once saw an active duty Gunnery Sgt running to get members beers and cigars. As a man and Marine, it was embarrassing to watch and it just wasn't for me. It also took 3 hours to ride 50-60 miles because there were so many stops to hook up with more members. No real riding. No offense to MCs, the guys I know are cool and I like them, but I'd rather be unaffiliated ...like the last 41 years. Good video!
That is the point of the prospect/probate process. It is to weed out those that are not a fit for the club. Every club is different, even within a club the seperate chapters can be different. MCs have rules for a reason, mainly to keep you and the other members safe. Hope you find a fit in the future. Ride safe!
100% Scott. No disrespect to the guy who made the video, was interesting. There is some illusion the dudes in clubs are bad ass people. Being a multiple tour veteran I know bad ass people. And those people wouldn't be degraded to join a group of dudes.
As someone who HAS been in an outlaw 3 piece 1% club, I'll say the majority of clubbers DO expects to be viewed higher than non clubbers and DO think the deserve a level of respect that they themselves don't have to return, and it's BULLSH!T. I found it laughable that so many considered themselves a badass now they are in a club when before they were a clubber they were just regular dudes. Not disrespecting clubs BUT far too many of these guys forget that the MAN MAKES THE PATCH, THE PATCH DOESNT MAKE THE MAN.
I'm all about respecting others. I'll respect a 1%er if I see them out in public - actually, unless we're fueling up at the same time, I probably wouldn't bother to approach just because they're in an MC. I'll say hi and "it's a beautiful day for a ride" but beyond that, probably not much else. But this whole respect the cut, respect the patch sort of attitude seems silly to me. Reminds me of high school wearing a letterman jacket to a rival school's dance. Some bully might try to pick a fight, but most normal people couldn't give a rat's ass if I wear a cartoon patch in the shape of a diamond or a rocker signifying where I live. It just seems so juvenile to go to war or kick someone's ass because you don't like what they're wearing. Everyone wants to fit in and have friends, but beating people up for what they wear or don't wear when they ride is stupid. Someone will say, "You just don't understand." You're right, and most normal people won't because we have fully developed brains and morals and realize it's dumb to beat someone up because they're wearing the wrong color or a wrong-shaped patch.
Glad you made it out. when it comes to 1%ers, Members allways benefit the club, but the club never benefits the members... unless you think being a criminal is a beefit... I was never a member myself, but I have been making alot of bucks off the local 1%ers... As an electrician I used to put up surveillance in their clubhouses, growhouses, stashhouses etc... and I even worked doing the same for rivaling gangs... I was allways honest and upfront about it, so I never had any problems... But it gave me a rather unique pespective being in their midst without being a member... I used to have huge bodybuilder serving me tea wearing an apron and cleaning up after me like a servant... and sometimes I'd jokingly ask the dude if he imagined being a waitress when he joined a badass bikers club... Poor prospects! LOL Anyways I feel like I got the best of both worlds. Never had to deal with their bullshit clubwars and I made a whole lot of dollars off them... lol
In the 90s Buddy visited my house, took his cut off, folded it neatly and placed it on the deck rail. I respected that and he showed his respect for my house. I often think of that.
I treat anybody with the same respect they show me. I grew up in the street before I started riding and I learned quick you get what you give and nothing more.
Excellent video. Independent riders are truly a culture different than clubbers. When the two come together they don't always understand one another. Many clubbers completely transform their identities to everything surrounding the club. Independents still have a fire of independence that rails in the face of group think. Often clubbers think we are the last bastion of freedom in America, but truly its the independent who is free. Clubbers have more rules going on than the US military - where as independents are truly free! Ride on independent riders, I often times miss that life. Black Dragon Lifer BSFFBS
Thank you very much BD! To have you say a video is good is truly an honor to me. Thank you very much for the feedback and for all that you do for the MC community.
Independent rider here. You took the words right out of my mouth. Club culture is big in my country, so I know alot of clubbers... and I am fully aware I am seen as a likable oddball. I have been asked to joiin several clubs. But they don't seem to understand I like riding when I want to, and that I actually like getting around meeting all the drifferent clubs and bikers out there... I am riding free going where the wind takes me, experiancing whats around the next turn... I don't wanna do the regular sunday parades through town with a bunch of people dressed the same as me... LOL Even more funny, I ride a rat suzuki chopper with a no patch leather vest I made myself... I can allmost tell people trying to figure out what box to put me in... and it is absolutely hillarious when ppl approach thinking it is a harley and I be like, "nope, she's an old japaneese lady I built myself!" LOL
@Brandon L I agree 100%! At 38 I've seen over the last 4 decades of my life I myself have seen what use to be good manners slowly erode away to the point that if I so much as even tried to do half as many of the disrespectful shit that these younger millennials do my fucking mother would have back handed my lip bloody, took all my toys/electronics and all before sending my ass to bed without dinner! Okay maybe it's not necessarily that bad but still I stand by my point!
I don't think the problem is or ever was a matter of *"respect."* I think the issue is that MC's want to be treated special, not simply respectfully, as if they aren't regular people. I find it fascinating that a culture that is so big on respect is well known to be routinely and arbitrarily disrespectful.
It all depends. Most clubs are pretty respectful to people. Not all are that way, I agree with that. As far as being treated special, I don't think that's the case but I can see where people would think that. In reality it just depends on what clubs you are around and how they handle things. Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
True, respect everybody, that being said, Im not stepping off the side walk because I see a club member coming my way, Im not sucking up to anybody. the gang mentality is such that they need back up. Kimber is my back up.
I've been riding motorcycles since I was a kid some 50 years ago, and never belong to a club and never really had a desire too. I respect everyone I come in contact with and desire the same. If a person joins a MC to appear as, or wanting to become some bad guy, with an outlaw mentality. I think they have some mental issues that need addressing. With that being said, there are plenty of MC's out there that have good morality and have no problems with who comes up to them etc. Usually their top rocker tells you their frame of mind so, be careful when approaching a barking dog.
That's how I did it. Twisted my first throttle at 12, been riding hard since. Riding damn neared killed me several times, still can't stop twisting the throttle. I agree completely with what you stated. I not looking for trouble, but damned sure not running from it. see you on the road.
You have missed why they were called outlaws. They were cutting parts off of their bikes to lighten them up for AMA sanctioned races. The AMA decided that they were not complying with the rules and therefore they were "Out Lawed" from racing in AMA sanctioned events. Most noted was the 1947 Holister California events.
I am glad that you explained these rules to People . Because today People don't seem to have Respect for anyone ,Until they shoot their Mouth and come out with a Hand full of Teeth . And I have seen it . I am a 64 year old man . And I started riding in the 1970's and I had a couple of friends in Clubs that schooled me that the same rules we use for everyone else will go a long way to keeping you out of trouble . This may be a long way around ,but I just really wanted to say thank you for that video . I have told accouple of young riders I know to watch it and Learn . Have a good life ,and stay safe.
Thank you very much for the kind words and for watching! It means a lot when someone with experience and years in the saddle leaves feedback and sees where I’m coming from. It’s all about respect and how you treat others! Thanks again for the support!
Myrtle Bike week 2011... I was on vacation with my gf... I met a group of Teamsters MC on the beach.. I introduced myself as a fellow Union member USW ... I was in for that day and evening... great guys ... mutual respect. Bikers are some of the best people I have ever met... and it all comes back to respect... something that is missing in so much of society now. Like he said.. and it is Biblical.. Treat others as you want to be treated.
Former USW member myself! When I worked for Lyondell Refinery. You’re absolutely right, showing respect is a lost art in this society! Thank you very much for watching and for sharing your story.
Big Smitty, thanks. This was some really good, useful and practical information that could save you a small fortune with a dental surgeon. It also reinforces what some of us were fortunate enough to learn from our parents and grandparents. Again, thank you kindly sir.
Thank you very much! Yes, good parents and grandparents can teach you a ton of practical values and respect. Things that are missing in today’s world! Thanks for watching!
I agree with you on everything you said, and YES, it is a respect issue when dealing with any motorcycle club. I myself are a member of an association, Combat Veterans motorcycle association. We are well educated on respect and protocol, and I'm glad you made this video.
I have been riding for 30+ years, it all boils down to respect, of each other. I have NEVER ran into anyone anywhere that is in a MC a RC or an independent that treated me or anyone any different. As a personal thing I do not touch anyone if a member shakes my hand and pulls me in for that "bro hug" I do it they call me brother all the time and I do them. I have logged thousands of miles with clubs on toys for tots rides BOCA and poker runs and the Louie Run for 4 years in a row when they still had it. I will say that after I bought my Harley it did seem to "pull me in" closer lol. Bottom line we are all human treat others how you want to be treated be safe have fun and keep getting "wind therapy"
Thank you for an excellent video. It all boils down to simple respect You did a good job of explaining it in a manner that gets the point across even to non-riders. Keep up the good work.
Nice job & good info. I've been riding for over 40 yrs solo, I never had any interest in clubs-too many rules & personalities for me I got enough of that at work and in the Army.
This is the best video I've seen on UA-cam about MC Etiquette. Clear, friendly advice. You're not trying to be be a hard-a$$ you just tell it like it is.
Thank you very much! I appreciate that. My goal was to help people and not come off as a know it all or a jerk. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
As a garage band musician I have played in dozens of bikers bars and even played events for three patch, one percent clubs. I've never once had a problem and have always felt welcomed. Understand, I know my role and what I'm there for but the truth is, I've always been treated with respect and even welcomed by members. I think it honestly is about respect and about how you present yourself. Be yourself and don't try to be something your not and you'll find they're good guys.
Very true! I agree, it’s all about respect and being yourself. People who want to act like a tough guy or want to start trouble will always find trouble. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Ive never riden with more than one person at a time, its too dangerous. My riding buddy of 50 years died a few years ago so I ride alone. Even though hes gone I still stop at our usual stops, and I still find myself looking back to see where he is, and sometimes I have a one sided conversation with him one the side of the road...I think he hears me in my heart.
Thank you for the good advice! I rode recently with HAMC. It was a public event and we rode to a well known local establishment. Lots of bikers. Lots of good guys. I was very polite to everybody. Said hello to everybody and shook hands with many. Was as respectful as could be. It was a good time.
I have never belonged to a MC, but have on occasion either ridden with them on charity runs, or have had fellowship at times when various bikers have congregated for a certain event...I respect the colors because that's a courtesy that is due...why push the envelope and be hard headed when kindness and respect is the best route...not knowing or violating biker etiquette can put you in a bad situation...it's easier to just respect
Loved the topic and video, Big Smitty. When I was growing up, I was reminded many times to, mind my manners. It was ingrained in me from a early age. I did likewise with my children as they grew up. Mind your manners, and you should be just fine with any public setting you may be in. Great vlog Big Smitty! Ride and stay safe down in big Texas!
I stopped to offer help to 2 stranded dudes on bikes I-10 in the middle of nowhere in the early 80's, pouring rain. I was 19 riding a Suzuki and when I stopped I noticed these guys were riding Harley's, choppers to my young mind. They needed a small phillips screwdriver, I had one, I ended up following them back to Phoenix and was invited to their clubhouse. They were super cool, I was thanked with a good meal and other "goodies" however being in the service at the time I had to decline, though I was told if I ever needed something to let them know. As it turned out they were members of a club called "The Dirty Dozen" who later became the Cave Creek chapter of The Hells Angels.
Now that is a great story! What a cool piece of history to be involved in. Always cool to hear about people helping others and the good stuff that happens afterwards. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the information...this is why I don't go to any club or bar lol. But now your cool enough to put this put maybe I will do more. I am a back road driver 5'1 883 super low and then put a lower seat on my baby. You are awsome.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching. You get out there enjoy that 883! Most places you go people will be respectful and you won’t have a single issue! Thanks again!
I’m not part of a club, but I do have friends that are. Two of them I’ve known most of my life. We refer to one another as brother. We’ve done that since childhood. I did get in to a confrontation with one of his club members because of this. This gentleman did not know history and just jumped the gun. At the time they were wearing their colors. This was resolved and uneventful. To this day we are brothers, and still call each other that.
That’s awesome! Good to have good brothers in your life. I have a few close friends I call brother, some wear patches some don’t. I just try to be aware of when and where I say brother. Good feedback and thanks for watching.
thanks for the info. im a solo rider on my bike and will ride with another guy from time to time. it's good to know these things, helps keep me out anyone's crosshairs.
This is some great information mate, respect everyone doesn't matter who you are. Thank you mate great video especially to someone who has never been in a club.
Thanks for the feedback and the comment! Yeah, most people don’t know about club etiquette so it’s a topic I felt like was relevant. Thanks again for watching my friend.
After watching your video, and others, I got a couple patches, on Jean jacket. And a couple on vest. Went with flag, Harley Davidson, that's pleanty. Ordered david man passing patch. To put on 3 inch. Thank you for advice. I ride sporster, chopper long bike. So under radar is tough...
RESPECT given to those who deserve it. Ex Aust Army, Aussie Biker thru n thru, ill treat you as you treat me. 100%...... Ill affiliate with whoever i choose..
Appreciate the video as I was unaware of much of the information shared. I've been an "on-and-off-again" bike rider all of my life--more off than on--but recently retired and plan on doing some touring, so this info will undoubtedly be useful. The saying may be "respect isn't given, it's earned," but I find that treating people in a respectful manner always leads to better results. Thanks.
Thank you for this, I didn't grow up around this scene. But as a respectful person already, this is pretty simple. Thank you, though, because there are bits of info you'd either need to be told about, or experience.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching. Yeah, there's the old saying, you don't know what you don't know. Until you learn or somebody is willing to teach you it's hard to gain the knowledge. Having basic respect will get you a long way though. Thanks again for the feedback.
Why anyone would hate you for making this vid is beyond me. Its good info. Never been in a club but ive been on a bike since i was 11. Had a chance (i think) to join up with a certain club in a certain state but, wasnt for me. I was college bound. Regardless, good vid, and if anyone does hate on you for making this vid, well, let them disrespect a 1% and find out the hard way how it goes.
Thank you very much for the kind words. Yeah, you'd be surprised how many people have gotten mad abut this video. But I really don't care. It's helped quite a few people so I'm happy with it. Thanks for watching.
I grew up in Detroit in 60s-70s and one learned to avoid MC Bikers as many had serious attitudes and frankly were dangerous and scary. After I moved to Texas I found attitudes were friendlier and more relaxed. However, if a rider ignores me I'm ok with that too. There is no shame for taking a " f** off" for what it is.
Loved this video. So much great information for folks that are unfamiliar with the biker community at large. I am a new rider. I watched similar videos before I started riding and it has helped me stay out of trouble and not make some stupid mistakes in the first place. Also start some great friendships with people in the community. I just love to ride. I am older and don't intend to join any clubs or organizations. But, at least I know how to act around other bikers that do have patches or are part of various organizations. Every time I have met someone new, I have had nothing but great interactions with them. When they find out I am a new rider (as if my choice of bike didn't give it away in the first place...lol I ride a Honda Rebel 500) they offer up some great advice and some great tips to improve my riding skills. I accept it all with thanks. I love to learn new things, especially from those that have way more experience than me. Like you say treat others as you want to be treated, mind your business and you will do just fine.
Thank you very much for watching and for the comment. I enjoy seeing people who want to learn about this stuff and who understand basic respect. Thanks again and ride safe!
Just be respectful and treat others as you want to be treated. That will keep you free of b.s. throughout life in nearly every scenario in life. As a lone wolf I have been asked to join on rides and parties with different clubs and have always gotten along just fine keeping my mouth shut and being respectful. I trust a biker before I'd trust 99% of the rest of society.
Thank you very much. I appreciate the feedback and you watching. Yeah, I just tried to help folks realize it's a different world and to try and be respectful.
Great advice and it definitely helped he in a time when I was questioning my worth and position in my organization and our family. You reiterated to me some of the things I joined for. I needed this video and it showed up at the right time! I am now subscribed to your channel and I liked the video!
Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m glad the video helped you. That’s my goal with many of these people, to help people. Thanks for the sub and I appreciate the feedback!
I do have a friend who's a club member and I agree it's all about respect Thanks for telling the difference between brother and friend Really enjoyed ur vid thanx
Lady Timberwolf here. I think your comments were spot on. You should ALWAYS be courteous and respectful to others. Especially if you are not familiar with them. Never take liberties that have not yet been granted you. I think you did a great job conveying your message. Keep up the good work.
I spend a decent amount of time with a 1% club, hanging out at the clubhouse and other charter events, and all I can say is you are going to be handed back what ever you dish out. If you show love and respect, you will get it in return. They are an amazing group of people if you can act like you have common sense.
Thank you for the content, keep up the good work. I have met a few people that say "( insert club name) are disrespectful punks, f them" and all I can say is "they give what they get" (not my quote)
Good video and better advice. I don't ride. Personal and health choice, but you are ABSOLUTELY correct that most people need to learn and implement the golden rules.
Treat others as you would want to be treated. Great to the point advice. While I respect motorcycle clubs, I don’t think I want to be a part of one. I did two combat tours while in the Army and I just don’t want to be tied down by rules. I just want to ride. I believe the original intent of veterans maintaining their connections and comradarie has been twisted into what we have today. Great video. Thanks.
Thank you first of all for your service. Secondly thank you for watching and commenting. I agree, riding and not worrying about rules and such is much simpler. But clubs can be an amazing experience and a great source of camaraderie and fellowship.
@@BigSmittyRiding readin down thru the comments you seen to have a lot of shit talkers. Which is a shame. You put out a good little helpful video, good common sense, sadly lacking these days, and the keyboard warriors wanna talk shit to each other. Can't we all just get along !!! Lol, sadly no. Especially if we are in front of a keyboard. I use to hang out at some biker bars, and went to some rallys. Still have one I go to every year. Never had any problems. All my ink was done by a Hells Angel. I respect and I must say admire the club life. It kinda pisses me off when I hear people talk shit. But I learned a long time ago, no sense arguing with someone who knows EVERYTHING ! Let em find out for themselves...
Thank you very much for watching and for the kind words. Man I have been called a poser, a pussy, a Nazi, a wannabe and all kinds of stuff. You’d be shocked at some of the comments I’ve removed by these keyboard warriors who wouldn’t have the guts to say that shit to my face. But that’s what happens when you get on UA-cam. I knew that going in so I just deal with it. Thanks again for watching.
In all honesty this was a very poor choice of words. I should have edited the words family club and law abiding club out. Family is what every club calls their members. I openly admit I screwed that on up. Same thing with the term law abiding. There’s plenty of clubs that live outside of society’s norms that are still law abiding. Another thing I look back on in this video from 3 years ago and wish I would have phrased better.
Great info! Not sure of any club hangouts close to me but I haven't really looked either. My parents taught me the same. Respect. Treat people how you would want to be treated. I tend to not be very social so most people don't have to worry about me walking up to them and starting a conversation. haha Thanks for sharing! So, how do we address you now? Just King? Or Your Majesty? Avoid eye contact?
I say avoid eye contact because things always tend to be awkward with me to begin with! Respect is the key and most people with any common sense will see that. Basic rules that we all should know to begin with. Thanks for watching and for the support!
Respect. You give respect you get respect. You disrespect you get disrespect. I've been riding independent for 42 years. No problems, no drama, no worries.
So it's okay for a MC member to approach you to give you a hug shake your hand talk to you whatever but it's viewed as disrespectful for you to do the same with one of them?? Sounds a bit hypocritical which is typical from what I'm finding out about the MC's. It's okay for the MC's to check out and approach your woman but damned if you even look in the direction of one of their women. If someone wants my respect they damn well better respect me in every way that they expect me to respect to them. I respect their choice to be part of a totalitarian organization under strict rules regulations and bylaws but I did not so when they are out in public they need to respect me by not expecting and demanding that I live according to their totalitarian regime that THEY chose to live under. I don't care if someone is wearing a one patch or a three patch with a diamond. If they want me to respect them they need to respect me equally. I ride alone and free because I'm not about to be under someone else's authoritarian rule. 99% of people have chosen to live under the authoritarian rule of others so tell me, who are the real one percenters and who are the posers? I know someone will be butthurt by what I have said but that's only because they know they don't have the freedom the Liberty that I do as long as they are part of an MC or any club for that matter. The rules and regulations they live under as a member of their club is much stricter and more severe than the authoritarian government of the country they live in but yet they think they are free from the authoritarian, totalitarian dictatorship. I ride when I want where I want and with whom I want anytime I want, MC members cannot. I do not fly any flag, banner or colors because I do not swear my allegiance to any totalitarian rule and rain. The moment someone flies those colors those banners or flags they agree to be under the totalitarian dictatorship of that country or organization/club. I do not pledge my allegiance to any banner flag or patch because I like my freedom to do as I choose/will. If these clubs cannot respect my freedom why should I respect their choice to be in bondage to their club? Back in the mid-70s at a very young age I had great respect for what is thought to be the largest and most notorious MC in the US if not worldwide because of one of their members sat down and visited with me like I was somebody, respecting me and through our conversation I realized that the two-wheel lifestyle is my life and who I am. The the man never once tried to intimidate me or buffalo me but rather showed me the respect that he wanted from others. Nearly 50 years later I cannot say that I have ever experienced the same respect from any other MC. Is that same respect there today from that same MC? I don't know because that is the only time I have ever knowingly encountered a member of that MC as it is very rare to have ever heard of them coming through my area of the country. But to this day nearly 50 years later I still have great respect for that MC because of the respect that one member showed me all those years ago.
I believe It’s give respect and get respect. As far as approaching members in a group I advise just to be respectful and not rude. You make some very good points. I don’t think any MC member is gonna try to touch someone’s wife or girlfriend. As far as a a dictatorship or totalitarian rule I disagree. You agree to the clubs rules and regulations but it’s not a dictatorship by any means. Members are free to leave as they please if they don’t believe in the club rules. Thank you very much for watching and I appreciate you’re perspective, your comment and telling your story. I appreciate good feedback and this was very good feedback.
@@BigSmittyRiding I completely agree that respect is a two-way street, give respect get respect. I believe being respectful when approaching anyone is a good rule of thumb, MC or just your average Joe on the street. People are allowed to leave communist countries also if they decide that isn't the life for them but so many times you see when someone respectfully leaves an MC they are disrespected and treated like the enemy. As far as the totalitarian rule and rain it's there. The members of these clubs are not allowed to do as they wish, they have to abide by the rules and regulations of the club they belong to and are not allowed to ride when they want where they want and with whomever they want. If an MC club has a ride or some other event going on at the same time a member has a child or a brother or sister with a very important event going on the club event MUST take precedence and the members MUST attend or face consequences. That is just a small example of totalitarianism. They do not have their own liberty to live life outside of the rules and regulations of the club. If the club says you MUST ride a Harley you better put away your thoughts of buying that Indian Chief. That is authoritarianism/totalitarianism. Yes I know some clubs don't care what you ride and that's the way it should be because I thought the motorcycle culture was about riding not a bunch of strict rules and regulations, totalitarianism, do this don't do that. If I want to wear white leathers one day versus black or attend my child's very important recital over riding with the club one day I can do that because I don't have a club dictating my priorities. I always thought a brotherhood was something that respected the choices a brother or sister make in this life as long as it does not harm or directly affect another brother or sister. Isn't a brotherhood about love not rules and regulations? A patchhood is about rules and regulations, totalitarianism. Big Smitty I know we don't agree on the totalitarian aspect but that's okay I respect your views and appreciate that you are a man of Honor willing to discuss the different viewpoints respectfully. Ride free and live long. ✌️
@@grounded7362 thank you very much! Great conversation and I respect your opinion and your experiences. Thank you for the comment and the great feedback.
My father was a Pagan out of Philly in the late 60's. When I started riding and going to their parties in that area it was late 80's. "Moose" was killed. All the elders would kiss me, on the lips, on every greeting. They only kissed brothers. I believe those days are gone.
Former combat veterans didn't band together for the excitement. They banded together because they were dealing with PTSD. They didn't have support groups like they do now days and they were a little too reckless for the polite society of the day.
As a Brit and bike rider I find this fascinating. We have motorcycle clubs in the UK but they are very different to the type of clubs like you are talking about in the USA. I've seen some of these MCs trying to emulate the USA ones and most of the rest of us think they are a bit odd. Not in a bad way! But not really proper bikers. You get a group of bikers meeting up and anyone will talk to anyone; but not this lot in Britain. Like most Brit bikers I'll wave or nod to other riders and invariably get a nod or a wave back. But not the patch wearing ones. You hardly, or never, see them at motorcycle events like the TT, dunno why. Anyway thanks for an insight into another world!
I love meeting other bikers. It’s amazing how complete strangers can become friends over the shared love of a motorcycle! To me meeting new people and checking out their bikes is one of the best parts about owning a bike! Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Actually some good info for those newbies out there. A LOT of younger guys don’t understand respect. Well there’s always two ways to learn. The easy way, and, well, you know.
To fine tune what you're saying when a member offers you their hand remove your glove before shaking his hand (shows respect) if they hug you don't touch their patch & if you're lucky enough to be allowed to ride with them they start their bikes first then you start yours (give respect get respect it's just that simple) great video for the unknowing 👍
Thank you very much for the feedback and for watching. I didn’t put certain things in the video just because I didn’t want it to seem like overload. But removing the gloves and sunglasses and not starting your bike first are great advice. Again, thank you for your comment.
I can't ride in groups; I tend to race too much. I feel like I have to be first. Considering my moped smokes so much, it is a blinding hazard for other riders.
I comepletely agree: Common curtious and respect applies to all... Problem is the most 1%ers expect way more than that. As you just shared they expect others to know and adhere to their weird and unknown traditions. and they are NOT friendly about teaching others about them... To my experience that is... It is weird how they often talk about respect but have a very skewed view of what equal respect means... You said yourself that your dad taught you to treat a CEO the same as anyone else... And yet you seem ta advocate for treating 1%ers with additional respects? -How does that work together? I never have a problem getting along with anyone in general... So why should it be any different when being around 1%ers? Selfentitlement comes to mind... Another thing is integrity. I'll stand up against abuse anyday. even if it was perpetraited by my own club. And thats why I am not a clubmember. I'd never defend another clubmember if I personally think he was in the wrong.
I have , and still am a member of a 3 piece club , and your club brothers , are just that your brother , if my brother screws up , and gets into trouble , I will die , defending my brother , but , if he is , or was , wrong ,me and my other brothers will straighten him out , not somebody outside the club , family , that’s the key word “family” ! Every thing else comes second . And as far , as you say about ,respect, as a man they don’t deserve no more respect than the next , but , you show respect , to the patch , and that’s what the problem is ….the patch it’s sorta like a uniform , you show , respect to service men , cops , right ? Same thing , you don’t got to kiss their ass , jus respect the ,uniform that’s all , I mean if your in bar , and there’s 25 cops , service men , and come off, all hard , you are automatically, out numbered, so be cool !
@@deecee9735 First: I am mostly referring to criminal 1%er clubs. I have alot of issues with criminals claiming to be peacefull bikers, but no problems with family fathers wanting to ride in a club. Second: I have a real brother and a best friend I have known all my life... -So I know what it is like having brothers I can rely on! I have defended their life by putting mine on the line for more than one occation! 🤘 -But I tell you there is a vast difference between that and what 1%ers call brotherhood IMHO... and there is a seriously big difference between respecting a uniform of a soldier or police officer and to respect the cut of a criminal biker just because of that and nothing more. HUGE! -It worries me a bit that you even compare them... I seen the criminal biker gangs from the inside by doing alot of shady contract work... I know why I'd never join one of the 1%er clubs. Being a member of those allways benefit the club, but never the member...
That was a direct, clear ,honest and truthful W.O.W. > Words Of Wisdom Advice. It's a no brainer 🧠 to understand. He's right about what he's saying, so be cool, just follow the rules and don't be like fools. 👍
You make some great points. Being prior military, "Brother" and "Sister" are kind of ingrained in my vocabulary. For me, when I use the reference, I am extending my respect to that person. I'm also a big handshaker and hugger 😊. But I've also been around the culture long enough to understand and agree with what you're saying. This is a great job distinguishing "friend" and "brother" in this context. I can't wait to meet you someday Smitty!
Thank you very much Toby. I appreciate the feedback and the support! Yeah, I’m a hugger. If you know me you’re getting a bear hug from me! Look forward to meeting you as well. Thanks again for watching!
I generally don't use "brother" unless I'm talking/referring to one of my platoon mates from our glory years. I don't see or talk to my actual brother much....
It’s not just 1% clubs, all clubs have rules. It’s just basic code of conduct stuff. I think the word rules or laws throws a lot of people off. Thank you for watching.
I know this is an older post, but I thought I’d share. I been riding since I was 14…I’m a retired police officer with over 30 years on the job.. I’ve never had any personal issues with MC clubs or 1%ers at any time in my life. Why you ask? Because I recognize how important fellowship and brotherhood is. Plain and simple. Hell, Ive had so many great experiences meeting MC riders all around the country . I never once thought about respect. But then again, I never think about treating anyone I come in contact with dignity and respect .. it’s just what I do. It’s my default setting. I served my country; then I severed my community. I never demanded respect. Shit, I’m not even sure how that works. But I’ve treated everyone in my life with compassion and dignity. I don’t give a shit if you’re homeless or a politician. Life is good. I love my fellow man. I’m getting older amd hope/expect my community will care about me someday. Hell yeah. I’m sorry about the long ramble .
That’s a very true statement I rode in Southern California for 14to 15 years and never joined A club. But I did go into a lot of bars were clubs hung out and as long as you treat them with respect they will treat you with respect.
I am not a member of a MC Club or RC Club but I do understand the meaning of the words, Family, Brother, Sister, Friend or Acquaintance. I have over my 60 years of living on this planet few of what I will call Family. I have many who are DNA Related Persons. I have very few of what I call Friends. I have many of what I call Acquaintances. The Title of Family DNA Related or not and Friend must be earned, not given. That comes from being a 20 year retired Submarine Sailor who has served and stationed in coutry in a Combat area of Operation. Operation Just Cause. I am just one person and those are my rules of Life on Planet 🌏 Earth!
I was 9 years old with my mother on a ferry going to Maine from Prince Edward Island. While we were behind some men bikers, the horn on our VW bug was beeping intermittently without touching it. Some bikers thought we were beeping at them and approached us on foot. I sensed this was trouble. They asked my mother to raise the hood of her car, and they disconnected the horn. That's when I saw the big picture. They were good guys.
Ah, the mythical 1%ers, those self-proclaimed elite in the motorcycle world. It's as if they believe they possess a superpower, but in reality, it's more like a comedy of errors. They roar around on their loud bikes, like a parade of peacocks trying to impress with their noise. But all they manage to do is draw eye-rolls and bemused chuckles from the rest of us. They demand respect like it's a currency, but little do they realize that true respect isn't earned through intimidation or claims of superiority. It's earned through decency, integrity, and being a contributing member of society. But that concept seems to elude them, lost in the fog of their deluded self-importance. And let's not forget about their infamous "Ol Ladies" - those toothless wonders with voices that could rival a truck driver's. They puff away on their Marlboros, as if trying to compete in a chain-smoking Olympics. It's a sight to behold, a carnival of oddities that leaves the world scratching its head in wonder. So here's to the 1%ers, the self-styled rulers of the motorcycle kingdom. May they continue to provide us with endless entertainment, a never-ending parade of pomposity and folly. Long live the circus of the 1%!
So this was pretty funny and well thought out. While some of the things you speak of are quite true, I’ll say that there’s more to most of these folks than meets the eye. More than chain smoking, loud bikes and demanding respect. However you are free to feel and assume away. Thank you for watching and for your well written feedback.
Pretty well spoken and it's a good video for the newbe's who have no clue about three patch MC members and a word of caution like Smitty said never touch a members vest ☠️ you might get told never do that again or you might get the tar beat out of you 💀
Thank you very much my friend. Yeah this was advice for those who have never been around clubs and need to learn. Better to hear it from me then to learn the hard way!
and thats exactly why we keep away from childish 1%ers. They don't show us any respect and they demand special treatment based on their own made up rules. They resort to violence when outdebated and are generally not friendly people... the respect they talk so much about they understand so little of... Being a member you allways end up putting you neck on the line because another unstable member did something stupid. you end up a criminal wit a rapsheet and state debt... and for what??? A life looking over you shoulder? Whats not to like... (Taste the sarcasm) LOL Personally I ride to be free as an individual, not to be opressed by insane hieraki and rules... but to each their own I guess. As a big brother, my prodest moment is when I talked my younger brother out of becoming a sergent of arms in a newly formed faction of 81 supporters in my local town... They wanted him real bad because he had a reputation (we both did in our own ways). I spent a whole day talking pros and cons with him. I made him realize he would allways come out on top if he wasn't responsible for a flock of morons...
No I wouldn’t think that would be seen as disrespectful. However there are some members of certain clubs that won’t talk about their cuts to an outsider so just be aware of that.
As soon as you said the word Wench I got flashbacks to a childhood movie "To the winch, wench!" 😂 I don't spend much time in places where other riders congregate so I haven't spent any time with anyone in a club. Sounds like common sense stuff though - show them the same respect that you expect for yourself and everything is good 👍
Hahaha!!! That's funny Walt! Wench! Yeah, It's just common sense rules for everyone but there's some people who just don't know. You need to get around other riders man! Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
Way back in 1977-78 in NOVA (N Virginia) my buddy got invited to a Pagan MC party. Back then they were based out of NOVA and were just starting to expand into PA. My buddy was friends with the President of the Pagans MC so me and other friends went with him to the party. We well understood the rules and to show respect. My friend introduced us to the President of the Pagans who at the time, was Fred "Dutch" Burhans. He was very friendly and welcoming to us so we partied with him for a while and then left with no issues, no problems. Sadly Dutch was killed less about two years later in a shootout in Fairfax VA.
That’s a great story and a cool piece of history. Thank you very much for sharing it. Very true, if you are respectful you will always be treated well and have a good time! Thanks for watching!
Hey, one of my bikes is a 2014 Honda Valkyrie 1800. Bought it new in '15 for a really good price! Absolutely fantastic bike! Any experienced rider, who can be really honest with themselves, could only agree. Imo, one of the best bikes ever made, even if you don't like it's looks. Been riding for decades, always owned at least one bike, long before the current trend of new riders...who ride maybe 1000 miles a year.. Where I live on the Chedder curtain (wi/il border) there quite a few MCs... I though have never been a member of any club...nor do I really know any who are..(that I know of).. Personally, I have zero problems with MCs...never had an issue, or need to know of any. For me, motorcycling is all about freedom, and being in a club, well it appears it would create conflict with my own beliefs. I have to be free .hard core... I ride primarily with my woman on the back always, just the two of us on one bike. I do though, on ocassion frequent bars in where I see MC members. I treat them as any individule...with respect. To me it's all a pseudo brotherhood...as riding motorcycles is loads of fun and can be dangerous. But it stops there... merely aquiantances of a mutual interest. It takes basic sense to see whom you should speak to, and those you should not. I try to be friendly, and keep a low profile, even doing so on a Valkyrie, or BMW R18 is quite difficult to do as 99% of all bikes up here are HD. Most of your video deals with basic common sense.
Sounds like you have some very nice bikes! I agree with you, most of the video is just common sense and about being a decent human being. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Very true. I should have put suggestions in the title. People are getting really upset over the word rules. Which is funny considering we are forced to follow rules every single day…
Christian Motorcycle Association has had to earn respect in 1% circles by earning it over a long period of time following this videos specific recommendations. Thank you for explaining. Well done!
I seriously doubt you’d get your ass beat! You’re a nice guy and I think you’re smart enough to be respectful. Thanks for watching and for the feedback buddy!
3:54 You can be as respectful as you want, if a member takes a dislike to you for any reason, he doesn't like the way you looked at him, he doesn't like your clothes, or whatever, you're going to have a bad time. My advice is, if you aren't a member, or not the friend of a member, don't approach them. They deal with wannabes every day. They usually do not have time for them.
All in the title: No club, no rules. Ain't nobody telling me what to do. The clubs aren't the law. Stop letting them have any say in what you wear. I have delt with two 1%ers who gave me "friendly advice" about vchanging my clothes. "I don't have anything to do with your supportgroup and are you the fucking fashion police?" is usually enough to make them walk off. if not just ask to see their pres and solve this right away. Any good pres wil know not to start being fascist fashion police against the public. Any good mobster knows you need the support of locals if you wanna succeed. Only supporters and hangarounds think they can act like big men by intimidating the public... and usually the ones in charge are not on board with any of that.
This might sound stupid but what does it mean earning the patch? Is it like some amazing race type thing? Do i have to complete challenges. How does one earn it?
It’s exactly like the amazing race! Naw, I’m just kidding. You earn your patch by being a good brother to the club and showing you want to be a part of it. Working hard and being there for the club. Just basically showing your dedication, work ethic and that you want to be involved. Simplest answer I know.
Living in Florida one of my best friends grew up with is Sargent at arms in the outlaws up north I hung with a bunch of pagons never joined just hung with them showed respect and was given it.
I agree! We ride for freedom. However you follow rules everyday in society. Right? Everyday. These aren’t rules more like suggestions. Everyone keeps getting caught up on the word rules when you follow rules everyday. See what I’m getting at?
A question for anyone who knows!!!RED AND White are the hells colours,is it disrespectful to use these colours on any type patch?I don’t mean the winged death head, I mean any other type of patch using these colours.
There’s only so many colors out there to use but my personal opinion is to steer clear of having the same colors as any 1% club in your patch. It is seen as disrespectful air can be seen as you are claiming to be associated with them. Which if you aren’t can cause major issues. I’m not an expert by any means this is just my advice and what I have seen and heard.
I pulled into a gas station where maybe 50 dozen bikers were revving their bikes and waiting to go into formation. Their bikes were blocking the pumps, so we waited. But after 5 minutes I walked up to the really creepy one with the tattoos on his face, shook his hand, looked him in the face, and said "how long are you going to be here?" He scowled at me, and I said, "Look, I don't want to ride with you, and I don't care what you do, it's none of my business, but everyone else here needs gas, so could you please go now?" He took his time, but he got out of the way. I work in a job where I deal with shitheads all the time, and I developed a serious way of talking to people. I'm not looking to get my way, I' not looking to get respect, I'm just looking to get my job done.
Most of the time clubs will be respectful of others around and move or be courteous. Not all the time, there’s jerks in all walks of life. But for the most part clubs and club members are respectful. Thanks for watching.
The rules of a non club member is that there are no rules. That's the beauty of it. You don't have to follow someone else's rules. You can be your own man.
"You don't have to follow someone else's rules" except Your wife, your parents, the police, your boss, the (City, County, State, or Federal) Government , your HOA, teachers... I guess you never served in the Military either. Yea, be your own man. No one's forcing anyone to be in an MC. If that's not your gig, have at it and enjoy your riding because in the end, that's what it's all about.
@@TheFeralBachelor LOL, you obviously don't know me.
the rules are you show respect or you get taught how to show respect
@@TheFeralBachelor you like being the wet towel don't you? Some aren't the best at conforming.
@@aaronwokaty7079 respect is a two-way street. I personally don't "give" respect, respect is earned. And why do you feel you get to teach people, that's disrespectful. I don't know you, but we might not get along to good.
As a OMC 1% member, I just base everything off of respect. I keep it simple and easy. I’m not going to randomly mess with anyone, I’m not going to “patch police” anyone, I’m not going to degrade anyone, those days are gone as they should be. My club knows how I feel about that sh*t. I treat independents and RC’s the same way I’d treat another 1%. If you aren’t stepping on my toes, impeding on my life, or being disrespectful then you aren’t my problem or concern.
Thank you very much for the reply and for watching. I try to tell folks to just be respectful and everything will be good. Thanks again and much respect.
@@BigSmittyRiding Yep, I’m not saying there aren’t some a-holes out there, but usually basic common sense will go a long way and everything will be fine. MLH&R Smitty.
@@psychoslingers8732 I completely agree. Thank you again for the reply and MLH&R to you.
Well said!!!
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SKAL!!! You're a good man.
I'm a US Marine, and looked into joining one of the USMC clubs about 10 years ago. I rode as a "prospect" for a few months, and got sick of the rules. I once saw an active duty Gunnery Sgt running to get members beers and cigars. As a man and Marine, it was embarrassing to watch and it just wasn't for me. It also took 3 hours to ride 50-60 miles because there were so many stops to hook up with more members. No real riding.
No offense to MCs, the guys I know are cool and I like them, but I'd rather be unaffiliated ...like the last 41 years. Good video!
Thank you very much for your service and for watching. Clubs aren't for everyone and not all clubs are good ones unfortunately.
Agreed as a Jarhead myself I’ve seen the same thing numerous times
That is the point of the prospect/probate process. It is to weed out those that are not a fit for the club. Every club is different, even within a club the seperate chapters can be different. MCs have rules for a reason, mainly to keep you and the other members safe. Hope you find a fit in the future. Ride safe!
@@krobarrides9028 very true and very well spoken. Thanks for watching!
100% Scott. No disrespect to the guy who made the video, was interesting. There is some illusion the dudes in clubs are bad ass people. Being a multiple tour veteran I know bad ass people. And those people wouldn't be degraded to join a group of dudes.
As someone who HAS been in an outlaw 3 piece 1% club, I'll say the majority of clubbers DO expects to be viewed higher than non clubbers and DO think the deserve a level of respect that they themselves don't have to return, and it's BULLSH!T. I found it laughable that so many considered themselves a badass now they are in a club when before they were a clubber they were just regular dudes. Not disrespecting clubs BUT far too many of these guys forget that the MAN MAKES THE PATCH, THE PATCH DOESNT MAKE THE MAN.
I completely agree, the man makes the patch and not the other way around. Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
Amen, one on one they are just regular guys
I'm all about respecting others. I'll respect a 1%er if I see them out in public - actually, unless we're fueling up at the same time, I probably wouldn't bother to approach just because they're in an MC. I'll say hi and "it's a beautiful day for a ride" but beyond that, probably not much else. But this whole respect the cut, respect the patch sort of attitude seems silly to me. Reminds me of high school wearing a letterman jacket to a rival school's dance. Some bully might try to pick a fight, but most normal people couldn't give a rat's ass if I wear a cartoon patch in the shape of a diamond or a rocker signifying where I live. It just seems so juvenile to go to war or kick someone's ass because you don't like what they're wearing. Everyone wants to fit in and have friends, but beating people up for what they wear or don't wear when they ride is stupid. Someone will say, "You just don't understand." You're right, and most normal people won't because we have fully developed brains and morals and realize it's dumb to beat someone up because they're wearing the wrong color or a wrong-shaped patch.
Respect is earned not given . Fuck em
Glad you made it out. when it comes to 1%ers, Members allways benefit the club, but the club never benefits the members... unless you think being a criminal is a beefit...
I was never a member myself, but I have been making alot of bucks off the local 1%ers... As an electrician I used to put up surveillance in their clubhouses, growhouses, stashhouses etc... and I even worked doing the same for rivaling gangs...
I was allways honest and upfront about it, so I never had any problems...
But it gave me a rather unique pespective being in their midst without being a member... I used to have huge bodybuilder serving me tea wearing an apron and cleaning up after me like a servant... and sometimes I'd jokingly ask the dude if he imagined being a waitress when he joined a badass bikers club... Poor prospects! LOL
Anyways I feel like I got the best of both worlds. Never had to deal with their bullshit clubwars and I made a whole lot of dollars off them... lol
In the 90s Buddy visited my house, took his cut off, folded it neatly and placed it on the deck rail. I respected that and he showed his respect for my house. I often think of that.
That’s awesome! Respect is the way to go on both ends of the spectrum. Great story and thanks for watching!
I treat anybody with the same respect they show me. I grew up in the street before I started riding and I learned quick you get what you give and nothing more.
Truth! You get what you give! Period! Thanks for watching!
Sometimes you walk into shit but for the most part if you’re looking for trouble it’ll find ya.
WORD!
Well said.
I agree. U get what u give.
Excellent video. Independent riders are truly a culture different than clubbers. When the two come together they don't always understand one another. Many clubbers completely transform their identities to everything surrounding the club. Independents still have a fire of independence that rails in the face of group think. Often clubbers think we are the last bastion of freedom in America, but truly its the independent who is free. Clubbers have more rules going on than the US military - where as independents are truly free! Ride on independent riders, I often times miss that life.
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Thank you very much BD! To have you say a video is good is truly an honor to me. Thank you very much for the feedback and for all that you do for the MC community.
Independent rider here. Doing what I do and cheering others on to the same.
@@PileofBrass thank you very much!
Independent rider here. You took the words right out of my mouth. Club culture is big in my country, so I know alot of clubbers... and I am fully aware I am seen as a likable oddball. I have been asked to joiin several clubs. But they don't seem to understand I like riding when I want to, and that I actually like getting around meeting all the drifferent clubs and bikers out there... I am riding free going where the wind takes me, experiancing whats around the next turn... I don't wanna do the regular sunday parades through town with a bunch of people dressed the same as me... LOL
Even more funny, I ride a rat suzuki chopper with a no patch leather vest I made myself... I can allmost tell people trying to figure out what box to put me in... and it is absolutely hillarious when ppl approach thinking it is a harley and I be like, "nope, she's an old japaneese lady I built myself!" LOL
@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds that’s good stuff! Thanks for watching and for being original and standing out from the crowd!
Hell this is just great advice in general in dealing with anyone. Something that seems to be sorely missing in society as of late.
Thank you very much. Yeah, there’s a lack of manners in society in general. Thanks for watching.
@@BigSmittyRiding Indeed manners matter.
@Brandon L I agree 100%! At 38 I've seen over the last 4 decades of my life I myself have seen what use to be good manners slowly erode away to the point that if I so much as even tried to do half as many of the disrespectful shit that these younger millennials do my fucking mother would have back handed my lip bloody, took all my toys/electronics and all before sending my ass to bed without dinner! Okay maybe it's not necessarily that bad but still I stand by my point!
@@fry_daddy_official i'm 58 Jeffrey, and my mom would have done the same to me if i "earned it".
Exactly. Years ago, this video would be common sense.
Imagine being in an MC and think you're different than some weirdo dressed like a wizard doing pretend magic battles.
Damn, I love pretend magic though… you got me pinned in a corner here! 😂
I don't think the problem is or ever was a matter of *"respect."* I think the issue is that MC's want to be treated special, not simply respectfully, as if they aren't regular people.
I find it fascinating that a culture that is so big on respect is well known to be routinely and arbitrarily disrespectful.
It all depends. Most clubs are pretty respectful to people. Not all are that way, I agree with that. As far as being treated special, I don't think that's the case but I can see where people would think that. In reality it just depends on what clubs you are around and how they handle things. Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
True, respect everybody, that being said, Im not stepping off the side walk because I see a club member coming my way, Im not sucking up to anybody. the gang mentality is such that they need back up. Kimber is my back up.
@@Joel-ho8xxno one said step off the side walk If you see a MC member just Don't walk up like you know him unless they come to you
I've been riding motorcycles since I was a kid some 50 years ago, and never belong to a club and never really had a desire too. I respect everyone I come in contact with and desire the same. If a person joins a MC to appear as, or wanting to become some bad guy, with an outlaw mentality. I think they have some mental issues that need addressing. With that being said, there are plenty of MC's out there that have good morality and have no problems with who comes up to them etc. Usually their top rocker tells you their frame of mind so, be careful when approaching a barking dog.
Very good feedback and very sound advice! Thank you very much for watching!
That's how I did it. Twisted my first throttle at 12, been riding hard since. Riding damn neared killed me several times, still can't stop twisting the throttle. I agree completely with what you stated. I not looking for trouble, but damned sure not running from it. see you on the road.
exactly,...needy.
Am I the only one here feeling excited while watching this video? So many rules to break and enjoy doing that!
😂😂😂 well the world runs on rule breakers!!!
You have missed why they were called outlaws. They were cutting parts off of their bikes to lighten them up for AMA sanctioned races. The AMA decided that they were not complying with the rules and therefore they were "Out Lawed" from racing in AMA sanctioned events. Most noted was the 1947 Holister California events.
Thank you for the clarification. I’ve had several others say that as well. I appreciate you watching and for the feedback.
I am glad that you explained these rules to People . Because today People don't seem to have Respect for anyone ,Until they shoot their Mouth and come out with a Hand full of Teeth . And I have seen it . I am a 64 year old man . And I started riding in the 1970's and I had a couple of friends in Clubs that schooled me that the same rules we use for everyone else will go a long way to keeping you out of trouble . This may be a long way around ,but I just really wanted to say thank you for that video . I have told accouple of young riders I know to watch it and Learn . Have a good life ,and stay safe.
Thank you very much for the kind words and for watching! It means a lot when someone with experience and years in the saddle leaves feedback and sees where I’m coming from. It’s all about respect and how you treat others! Thanks again for the support!
I'm always amused when people don't understand respect gets respect. Great vid!
Dude, it’s shocking how many people don’t understand that simple principle! Thanks for watching Ben!
Myrtle Bike week 2011... I was on vacation with my gf... I met a group of Teamsters MC on the beach.. I introduced myself as a fellow Union member USW ... I was in for that day and evening... great guys ... mutual respect. Bikers are some of the best people I have ever met... and it all comes back to respect... something that is missing in so much of society now.
Like he said.. and it is Biblical..
Treat others as you want to be treated.
Former USW member myself! When I worked for Lyondell Refinery. You’re absolutely right, showing respect is a lost art in this society! Thank you very much for watching and for sharing your story.
Big Smitty, thanks. This was some really good, useful and practical information that could save you a small fortune with a dental surgeon. It also reinforces what some of us were fortunate enough to learn from our parents and grandparents. Again, thank you kindly sir.
Thank you very much! Yes, good parents and grandparents can teach you a ton of practical values and respect. Things that are missing in today’s world! Thanks for watching!
I agree with you on everything you said, and YES, it is a respect issue when dealing with any motorcycle club. I myself are a member of an association, Combat Veterans motorcycle association. We are well educated on respect and protocol, and I'm glad you made this video.
Much respect to CVMA. Great organization and all the folks I’ve met with them are solid. Thanks for the feedback and for watching.
I have been riding for 30+ years, it all boils down to respect, of each other. I have NEVER ran into anyone anywhere that is in a MC a RC or an independent that treated me or anyone any different. As a personal thing I do not touch anyone if a member shakes my hand and pulls me in for that "bro hug" I do it they call me brother all the time and I do them. I have logged thousands of miles with clubs on toys for tots rides BOCA and poker runs and the Louie Run for 4 years in a row when they still had it. I will say that after I bought my Harley it did seem to "pull me in" closer lol. Bottom line we are all human treat others how you want to be treated be safe have fun and keep getting "wind therapy"
Very well said! It boils down to basic respect. Thank you for the great comment, advice and for watching!
Thank you for an excellent video. It all boils down to simple respect You did a good job of explaining it in a manner that gets the point across even to non-riders. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much sir. I greatly appreciate the kind words and the support.
Nice job & good info. I've been riding for over 40 yrs solo, I never had any interest in clubs-too many rules & personalities for me I got enough of that at work and in the Army.
Yeah, clubs aren't for everyone and there are a ton of different personalities in each one. Thanks for the kind words and thank you for your service.
This is the best video I've seen on UA-cam about MC Etiquette. Clear, friendly advice. You're not trying to be be a hard-a$$ you just tell it like it is.
Thank you very much! I appreciate that. My goal was to help people and not come off as a know it all or a jerk. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
As a garage band musician I have played in dozens of bikers bars and even played events for three patch, one percent clubs. I've never once had a problem and have always felt welcomed. Understand, I know my role and what I'm there for but the truth is, I've always been treated with respect and even welcomed by members. I think it honestly is about respect and about how you present yourself. Be yourself and don't try to be something your not and you'll find they're good guys.
Very true! I agree, it’s all about respect and being yourself. People who want to act like a tough guy or want to start trouble will always find trouble. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Ive never riden with more than one person at a time, its too dangerous. My riding buddy of 50 years died a few years ago so I ride alone. Even though hes gone I still stop at our usual stops, and I still find myself looking back to see where he is, and sometimes I have a one sided conversation with him one the side of the road...I think he hears me in my heart.
I’m very sorry you lost your friend. My condolences and I’m sure he’s riding with you.
Thank you for the good advice! I rode recently with HAMC. It was a public event and we rode to a well known local establishment. Lots of bikers. Lots of good guys. I was very polite to everybody. Said hello to everybody and shook hands with many. Was as respectful as could be. It was a good time.
That’s awesome! You did it absolutely right. Be respectful and polite and everything is fine. Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience.
I have never belonged to a MC, but have on occasion either ridden with them on charity runs, or have had fellowship at times when various bikers have congregated for a certain event...I respect the colors because that's a courtesy that is due...why push the envelope and be hard headed when kindness and respect is the best route...not knowing or violating biker etiquette can put you in a bad situation...it's easier to just respect
Very true! It’s as simple as being respectful. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Loved the topic and video, Big Smitty. When I was growing up, I was reminded many times to, mind my manners. It was ingrained in me from a early age. I did likewise with my children as they grew up. Mind your manners, and you should be just fine with any public setting you may be in. Great vlog Big Smitty! Ride and stay safe down in big Texas!
Absolutely! Mind your manners, be respectful and keep out of other peoples business! Thank you very much for watching!
I stopped to offer help to 2 stranded dudes on bikes I-10 in the middle of nowhere in the early 80's, pouring rain. I was 19 riding a Suzuki and when I stopped I noticed these guys were riding Harley's, choppers to my young mind. They needed a small phillips screwdriver, I had one, I ended up following them back to Phoenix and was invited to their clubhouse. They were super cool, I was thanked with a good meal and other "goodies" however being in the service at the time I had to decline, though I was told if I ever needed something to let them know. As it turned out they were members of a club called "The Dirty Dozen" who later became the Cave Creek chapter of The Hells Angels.
Now that is a great story! What a cool piece of history to be involved in. Always cool to hear about people helping others and the good stuff that happens afterwards. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the information...this is why I don't go to any club or bar lol. But now your cool enough to put this put maybe I will do more. I am a back road driver 5'1 883 super low and then put a lower seat on my baby. You are awsome.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching. You get out there enjoy that 883! Most places you go people will be respectful and you won’t have a single issue! Thanks again!
I’m not part of a club, but I do have friends that are. Two of them I’ve known most of my life. We refer to one another as brother. We’ve done that since childhood. I did get in to a confrontation with one of his club members because of this. This gentleman did not know history and just jumped the gun. At the time they were wearing their colors. This was resolved and uneventful. To this day we are brothers, and still call each other that.
That’s awesome! Good to have good brothers in your life. I have a few close friends I call brother, some wear patches some don’t. I just try to be aware of when and where I say brother. Good feedback and thanks for watching.
thanks for the info. im a solo rider on my bike and will ride with another guy from time to time. it's good to know these things, helps keep me out anyone's crosshairs.
You’re welcome. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
This is some great information mate, respect everyone doesn't matter who you are. Thank you mate great video especially to someone who has never been in a club.
Thanks for the feedback and the comment! Yeah, most people don’t know about club etiquette so it’s a topic I felt like was relevant. Thanks again for watching my friend.
@@BigSmittyRiding Yea 100% agreed mate thank you again.
After watching your video, and others, I got a couple patches, on Jean jacket. And a couple on vest. Went with flag, Harley Davidson, that's pleanty. Ordered david man passing patch. To put on 3 inch. Thank you for advice. I ride sporster, chopper long bike. So under radar is tough...
A Sportster chopper is an awesome bike! And all those patches are pretty damn good ones. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
It was a show bike, so it's now showed on road
That’s badass!
RESPECT given to those who deserve it. Ex Aust Army, Aussie Biker thru n thru, ill treat you as you treat me. 100%...... Ill affiliate with whoever i choose..
Completely agree. Treat others as well as the treat you. Thank you very much for watching.
Appreciate the video as I was unaware of much of the information shared. I've been an "on-and-off-again" bike rider all of my life--more off than on--but recently retired and plan on doing some touring, so this info will undoubtedly be useful. The saying may be "respect isn't given, it's earned," but I find that treating people in a respectful manner always leads to better results. Thanks.
Very well spoken! Give respect and you will get it in return! Thank you very much for watching!
Thank you for this, I didn't grow up around this scene. But as a respectful person already, this is pretty simple. Thank you, though, because there are bits of info you'd either need to be told about, or experience.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching. Yeah, there's the old saying, you don't know what you don't know. Until you learn or somebody is willing to teach you it's hard to gain the knowledge. Having basic respect will get you a long way though. Thanks again for the feedback.
Why anyone would hate you for making this vid is beyond me. Its good info. Never been in a club but ive been on a bike since i was 11. Had a chance (i think) to join up with a certain club in a certain state but, wasnt for me. I was college bound. Regardless, good vid, and if anyone does hate on you for making this vid, well, let them disrespect a 1% and find out the hard way how it goes.
Thank you very much for the kind words. Yeah, you'd be surprised how many people have gotten mad abut this video. But I really don't care. It's helped quite a few people so I'm happy with it. Thanks for watching.
I grew up in Detroit in 60s-70s and one learned to avoid MC Bikers as many had serious attitudes and frankly were dangerous and scary. After I moved to Texas I found attitudes were friendlier and more relaxed. However, if a rider ignores me I'm ok with that too.
There is no shame for taking a " f** off" for what it is.
Absolutely. Very good feedback and thank you very for watching!
Loved this video. So much great information for folks that are unfamiliar with the biker community at large. I am a new rider. I watched similar videos before I started riding and it has helped me stay out of trouble and not make some stupid mistakes in the first place. Also start some great friendships with people in the community. I just love to ride. I am older and don't intend to join any clubs or organizations. But, at least I know how to act around other bikers that do have patches or are part of various organizations. Every time I have met someone new, I have had nothing but great interactions with them. When they find out I am a new rider (as if my choice of bike didn't give it away in the first place...lol I ride a Honda Rebel 500) they offer up some great advice and some great tips to improve my riding skills. I accept it all with thanks. I love to learn new things, especially from those that have way more experience than me. Like you say treat others as you want to be treated, mind your business and you will do just fine.
Thank you very much for watching and for the comment. I enjoy seeing people who want to learn about this stuff and who understand basic respect. Thanks again and ride safe!
Just be respectful and treat others as you want to be treated. That will keep you free of b.s. throughout life in nearly every scenario in life. As a lone wolf I have been asked to join on rides and parties with different clubs and have always gotten along just fine keeping my mouth shut and being respectful. I trust a biker before I'd trust 99% of the rest of society.
Very well spoken. Being respectful and courteous goes a long way. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
I gotta say I agree with all of what you said,and I'm 66, ride 47 years,and I gotta say you nailed it. That's how I roll.....
Thank you very much. I appreciate the feedback and you watching. Yeah, I just tried to help folks realize it's a different world and to try and be respectful.
Great advice and it definitely helped he in a time when I was questioning my worth and position in my organization and our family. You reiterated to me some of the things I joined for. I needed this video and it showed up at the right time! I am now subscribed to your channel and I liked the video!
Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m glad the video helped you. That’s my goal with many of these people, to help people. Thanks for the sub and I appreciate the feedback!
I do have a friend who's a club member and I agree it's all about respect Thanks for telling the difference between brother and friend Really enjoyed ur vid thanx
Thank you very much. I’m glad you liked the video. I appreciate the comment and you watching!
Fantastic video. Respect is so key in this world, club life or not!
I agree and there’s a lack of it going around lately. Thanks for watching and for the support Bry!
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Lady Timberwolf here. I think your comments were spot on. You should ALWAYS be courteous and respectful to others. Especially if you are not familiar with them. Never take liberties that have not yet been granted you.
I think you did a great job conveying your message. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much! I do my best to be kind to others and hope the courtesy is returned to me! I appreciate the kind words!
I spend a decent amount of time with a 1% club, hanging out at the clubhouse and other charter events, and all I can say is you are going to be handed back what ever you dish out. If you show love and respect, you will get it in return. They are an amazing group of people if you can act like you have common sense.
Very true statement! Give respect and you will get it in return! Thank you very much for the comment and for watching!
Thank you for the content, keep up the good work. I have met a few people that say "( insert club name) are disrespectful punks, f them" and all I can say is "they give what they get" (not my quote)
@@lylebaierlein419 I appreciate that. Thanks again.
Good video and better advice.
I don't ride. Personal and health choice, but you are ABSOLUTELY correct that most people need to learn and implement the golden rules.
Thank you very much for watching. Yeah, the golden rule is in short supply these days. We need much more of it in society!
Treat others as you would want to be treated. Great to the point advice. While I respect motorcycle clubs, I don’t think I want to be a part of one. I did two combat tours while in the Army and I just don’t want to be tied down by rules. I just want to ride. I believe the original intent of veterans maintaining their connections and comradarie has been twisted into what we have today. Great video. Thanks.
Thank you first of all for your service. Secondly thank you for watching and commenting. I agree, riding and not worrying about rules and such is much simpler. But clubs can be an amazing experience and a great source of camaraderie and fellowship.
@@BigSmittyRiding readin down thru the comments you seen to have a lot of shit talkers. Which is a shame. You put out a good little helpful video, good common sense, sadly lacking these days, and the keyboard warriors wanna talk shit to each other. Can't we all just get along !!! Lol, sadly no. Especially if we are in front of a keyboard. I use to hang out at some biker bars, and went to some rallys. Still have one I go to every year. Never had any problems. All my ink was done by a Hells Angel. I respect and I must say admire the club life. It kinda pisses me off when I hear people talk shit. But I learned a long time ago, no sense arguing with someone who knows EVERYTHING ! Let em find out for themselves...
Thank you very much for watching and for the kind words. Man I have been called a poser, a pussy, a Nazi, a wannabe and all kinds of stuff. You’d be shocked at some of the comments I’ve removed by these keyboard warriors who wouldn’t have the guts to say that shit to my face. But that’s what happens when you get on UA-cam. I knew that going in so I just deal with it. Thanks again for watching.
"Family" club ? 2:56
Please do explain if you would
In all honesty this was a very poor choice of words. I should have edited the words family club and law abiding club out. Family is what every club calls their members. I openly admit I screwed that on up. Same thing with the term law abiding. There’s plenty of clubs that live outside of society’s norms that are still law abiding. Another thing I look back on in this video from 3 years ago and wish I would have phrased better.
Great info! Not sure of any club hangouts close to me but I haven't really looked either. My parents taught me the same. Respect. Treat people how you would want to be treated. I tend to not be very social so most people don't have to worry about me walking up to them and starting a conversation. haha Thanks for sharing! So, how do we address you now? Just King? Or Your Majesty? Avoid eye contact?
I say avoid eye contact because things always tend to be awkward with me to begin with!
Respect is the key and most people with any common sense will see that. Basic rules that we all should know to begin with. Thanks for watching and for the support!
Respect. You give respect you get respect. You disrespect you get disrespect. I've been riding independent for 42 years. No problems, no drama, no worries.
Very well spoken! Thank you for the comment and the advice.
So it's okay for a MC member to approach you to give you a hug shake your hand talk to you whatever but it's viewed as disrespectful for you to do the same with one of them??
Sounds a bit hypocritical which is typical from what I'm finding out about the MC's.
It's okay for the MC's to check out and approach your woman but damned if you even look in the direction of one of their women.
If someone wants my respect they damn well better respect me in every way that they expect me to respect to them.
I respect their choice to be part of a totalitarian organization under strict rules regulations and bylaws but I did not so when they are out in public they need to respect me by not expecting and demanding that I live according to their totalitarian regime that THEY chose to live under.
I don't care if someone is wearing a one patch or a three patch with a diamond.
If they want me to respect them they need to respect me equally.
I ride alone and free because I'm not about to be under someone else's authoritarian rule.
99% of people have chosen to live under the authoritarian rule of others so tell me, who are the real one percenters and who are the posers?
I know someone will be butthurt by what I have said but that's only because they know they don't have the freedom the Liberty that I do as long as they are part of an MC or any club for that matter.
The rules and regulations they live under as a member of their club is much stricter and more severe than the authoritarian government of the country they live in but yet they think they are free from the authoritarian, totalitarian dictatorship.
I ride when I want where I want and with whom I want anytime I want, MC members cannot.
I do not fly any flag, banner or colors because I do not swear my allegiance to any totalitarian rule and rain.
The moment someone flies those colors those banners or flags they agree to be under the totalitarian dictatorship of that country or organization/club.
I do not pledge my allegiance to any banner flag or patch because I like my freedom to do as I choose/will.
If these clubs cannot respect my freedom why should I respect their choice to be in bondage to their club?
Back in the mid-70s at a very young age I had great respect for what is thought to be the largest and most notorious MC in the US if not worldwide because of one of their members sat down and visited with me like I was somebody, respecting me and through our conversation I realized that the two-wheel lifestyle is my life and who I am.
The the man never once tried to intimidate me or buffalo me but rather showed me the respect that he wanted from others.
Nearly 50 years later I cannot say that I have ever experienced the same respect from any other MC.
Is that same respect there today from that same MC? I don't know because that is the only time I have ever knowingly encountered a member of that MC as it is very rare to have ever heard of them coming through my area of the country.
But to this day nearly 50 years later I still have great respect for that MC because of the respect that one member showed me all those years ago.
I believe It’s give respect and get respect. As far as approaching members in a group I advise just to be respectful and not rude. You make some very good points. I don’t think any MC member is gonna try to touch someone’s wife or girlfriend.
As far as a a dictatorship or totalitarian rule I disagree. You agree to the clubs rules and regulations but it’s not a dictatorship by any means. Members are free to leave as they please if they don’t believe in the club rules.
Thank you very much for watching and I appreciate you’re perspective, your comment and telling your story. I appreciate good feedback and this was very good feedback.
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I completely agree that respect is a two-way street, give respect get respect.
I believe being respectful when approaching anyone is a good rule of thumb, MC or just your average Joe on the street.
People are allowed to leave communist countries also if they decide that isn't the life for them but so many times you see when someone respectfully leaves an MC they are disrespected and treated like the enemy.
As far as the totalitarian rule and rain it's there.
The members of these clubs are not allowed to do as they wish, they have to abide by the rules and regulations of the club they belong to and are not allowed to ride when they want where they want and with whomever they want.
If an MC club has a ride or some other event going on at the same time a member has a child or a brother or sister with a very important event going on the club event MUST take precedence and the members MUST attend or face consequences.
That is just a small example of totalitarianism.
They do not have their own liberty to live life outside of the rules and regulations of the club.
If the club says you MUST ride a Harley you better put away your thoughts of buying that Indian Chief.
That is authoritarianism/totalitarianism.
Yes I know some clubs don't care what you ride and that's the way it should be because I thought the motorcycle culture was about riding not a bunch of strict rules and regulations, totalitarianism, do this don't do that.
If I want to wear white leathers one day versus black or attend my child's very important recital over riding with the club one day I can do that because I don't have a club dictating my priorities.
I always thought a brotherhood was something that respected the choices a brother or sister make in this life as long as it does not harm or directly affect another brother or sister.
Isn't a brotherhood about love not rules and regulations?
A patchhood is about rules and regulations, totalitarianism.
Big Smitty I know we don't agree on the totalitarian aspect but that's okay I respect your views and appreciate that you are a man of Honor willing to discuss the different viewpoints respectfully.
Ride free and live long. ✌️
@@grounded7362 thank you very much! Great conversation and I respect your opinion and your experiences. Thank you for the comment and the great feedback.
Respect. What you give is what you get
Very true! Thanks for watching!
My father was a Pagan out of Philly in the late 60's. When I started riding and going to their parties in that area it was late 80's. "Moose" was killed. All the elders would kiss me, on the lips, on every greeting. They only kissed brothers. I believe those days are gone.
That’s a great story and amazing memories. Thank you very much for sharing them and for watching my video.
Yessir they are. But that's the way of the world now...We are the last of our kind...
Former combat veterans didn't band together for the excitement. They banded together because they were dealing with PTSD. They didn't have support groups like they do now days and they were a little too reckless for the polite society of the day.
You know I never even thought about the PTSD side of it. That’s a great point. Thank you for watching and for the feedback. Excellent comment.
@@BigSmittyRiding That’s why the Combat Veterans Motorcycle Association exists; Vets Helping Vets.
@TheJimtanker they are a great organization. I’ve been around a few members in the past and they are solid dudes.
Respect gets respect bottom line. I was at a concert in Conn and they was a HA member and before I took a picture I asked if we could take one.
Very true. If you give respect in most cases you will receive it in return. Thanks for watching.
As a Brit and bike rider I find this fascinating. We have motorcycle clubs in the UK but they are very different to the type of clubs like you are talking about in the USA. I've seen some of these MCs trying to emulate the USA ones and most of the rest of us think they are a bit odd. Not in a bad way! But not really proper bikers. You get a group of bikers meeting up and anyone will talk to anyone; but not this lot in Britain. Like most Brit bikers I'll wave or nod to other riders and invariably get a nod or a wave back. But not the patch wearing ones. You hardly, or never, see them at motorcycle events like the TT, dunno why. Anyway thanks for an insight into another world!
I love meeting other bikers. It’s amazing how complete strangers can become friends over the shared love of a motorcycle! To me meeting new people and checking out their bikes is one of the best parts about owning a bike! Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Pretty much just have common sense and respect everyone anyway. Dont let your ego get the better of you! great Vid Smitty wise words!
Thank you very much! Yeah, it’s really basic stuff but you’d be surprised how many people don’t realize how easy it is. Thanks for watching!
Actually some good info for those newbies out there. A LOT of younger guys don’t understand respect. Well there’s always two ways to learn. The easy way, and, well, you know.
Thank you very much. I’m with you, I’d rather learn the easy way than the hard way. Thanks for watching.
Great video! Respect is key with all intersections.
Absolutely!
Thank you so much for this.
Man, thank you very much for watching!
To fine tune what you're saying when a member offers you their hand remove your glove before shaking his hand (shows respect) if they hug you don't touch their patch & if you're lucky enough to be allowed to ride with them they start their bikes first then you start yours (give respect get respect it's just that simple) great video for the unknowing 👍
Thank you very much for the feedback and for watching. I didn’t put certain things in the video just because I didn’t want it to seem like overload. But removing the gloves and sunglasses and not starting your bike first are great advice. Again, thank you for your comment.
I can't ride in groups; I tend to race too much. I feel like I have to be first. Considering my moped smokes so much, it is a blinding hazard for other riders.
I just ride to have fun. All this is over my head. Blah blah blah!
Yep, ride to have fun, that's the best way.
Free rider, just bought my first road bike. Just harley davidson on the vest. Looking to learn etiquette. Great channel.
Thank you very much for the kind words! Man that first road bike is a special one! Be safe out there and thanks for watching!
I comepletely agree: Common curtious and respect applies to all... Problem is the most 1%ers expect way more than that. As you just shared they expect others to know and adhere to their weird and unknown traditions. and they are NOT friendly about teaching others about them... To my experience that is...
It is weird how they often talk about respect but have a very skewed view of what equal respect means... You said yourself that your dad taught you to treat a CEO the same as anyone else... And yet you seem ta advocate for treating 1%ers with additional respects?
-How does that work together?
I never have a problem getting along with anyone in general... So why should it be any different when being around 1%ers? Selfentitlement comes to mind...
Another thing is integrity. I'll stand up against abuse anyday. even if it was perpetraited by my own club. And thats why I am not a clubmember. I'd never defend another clubmember if I personally think he was in the wrong.
I have , and still am a member of a 3 piece club , and your club brothers , are just that your brother , if my brother screws up , and gets into trouble , I will die , defending my brother , but , if he is , or was , wrong ,me and my other brothers will straighten him out , not somebody
outside the club , family , that’s the key word “family” ! Every thing else comes second . And as far , as you say about ,respect, as a man they don’t deserve no more respect than the next , but , you show respect , to the patch , and that’s what the problem is ….the patch it’s
sorta like a uniform , you show , respect to service men , cops , right ? Same thing , you don’t got to kiss their ass , jus respect the ,uniform that’s all , I mean if your in bar , and there’s 25 cops , service men , and come off, all hard , you are automatically, out numbered, so be cool !
@@deecee9735 First: I am mostly referring to criminal 1%er clubs. I have alot of issues with criminals claiming to be peacefull bikers, but no problems with family fathers wanting to ride in a club.
Second: I have a real brother and a best friend I have known all my life...
-So I know what it is like having brothers I can rely on! I have defended their life by putting mine on the line for more than one occation! 🤘 -But I tell you there is a vast difference between that and what 1%ers call brotherhood IMHO... and there is a seriously big difference between respecting a uniform of a soldier or police officer and to respect the cut of a criminal biker just because of that and nothing more. HUGE! -It worries me a bit that you even compare them...
I seen the criminal biker gangs from the inside by doing alot of shady contract work... I know why I'd never join one of the 1%er clubs. Being a member of those allways benefit the club, but never the member...
That was a direct, clear ,honest and truthful W.O.W. > Words Of Wisdom Advice. It's a no brainer 🧠 to understand. He's right about what he's saying, so be cool, just follow the rules and don't be like fools. 👍
Thank you very much! I appreciate the kind words and for watching!
You make some great points. Being prior military, "Brother" and "Sister" are kind of ingrained in my vocabulary. For me, when I use the reference, I am extending my respect to that person. I'm also a big handshaker and hugger 😊. But I've also been around the culture long enough to understand and agree with what you're saying. This is a great job distinguishing "friend" and "brother" in this context. I can't wait to meet you someday Smitty!
Thank you very much Toby. I appreciate the feedback and the support! Yeah, I’m a hugger. If you know me you’re getting a bear hug from me! Look forward to meeting you as well. Thanks again for watching!
I generally don't use "brother" unless I'm talking/referring to one of my platoon mates from our glory years. I don't see or talk to my actual brother much....
I appreciate this video I'm a new rider and good thing I clicked on this video so I know what todo and how to act around biker clubs
Never understood why the so-called "outlaw clubs" have laws.
It’s not just 1% clubs, all clubs have rules. It’s just basic code of conduct stuff. I think the word rules or laws throws a lot of people off. Thank you for watching.
Best club etiquette video I’ve seen…great job bro…
Thank you very much.
Solid info for the social aspect. It's pretty basic respect.
Thank you
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
I know this is an older post, but I thought I’d share. I been riding since I was 14…I’m a retired police officer with over 30 years on the job.. I’ve never had any personal issues with MC clubs or 1%ers at any time in my life. Why you ask? Because I recognize how important fellowship and brotherhood is. Plain and simple. Hell, Ive had so many great experiences meeting MC riders all around the country . I never once thought about respect. But then again, I never think about treating anyone I come in contact with dignity and respect .. it’s just what I do. It’s my default setting.
I served my country; then I severed my community. I never demanded respect. Shit, I’m not even sure how that works. But I’ve treated everyone in my life with compassion and dignity. I don’t give a shit if you’re homeless or a politician. Life is good. I love my fellow man. I’m getting older amd hope/expect my community will care about me someday. Hell yeah. I’m sorry about the long ramble .
Thank you very much for the feedback and for your service to our country. You said it right, it’s all about respect. Thank you very much for watching!
There are NO rules for NON club members, I do wtf I want to
Really? You don’t follow any rules? At all? Ever? Better think again Tiger.
That’s a very true statement I rode in Southern California for 14to 15 years and never joined A club. But I did go into a lot of bars were clubs hung out and as long as you treat them with respect they will treat you with respect.
Very true. If you’re respectful you will be treated respectfully. Thank you very much for watching!
I am not a member of a MC Club or RC Club but I do understand the meaning of the words, Family, Brother, Sister, Friend or Acquaintance.
I have over my 60 years of living on this planet few of what I will call Family. I have many who are DNA Related Persons.
I have very few of what I call Friends. I have many of what I call Acquaintances.
The Title of Family DNA Related or not and Friend must be earned, not given. That comes from being a 20 year retired Submarine Sailor who has served and stationed in coutry in a Combat area of Operation. Operation Just Cause.
I am just one person and those are my rules of Life on Planet 🌏 Earth!
Thank you very much for your service.
I was 9 years old with my mother on a ferry going to Maine from Prince Edward Island. While we were behind some men bikers, the horn on our VW bug was beeping intermittently without touching it. Some bikers thought we were beeping at them and approached us on foot. I sensed this was trouble. They asked my mother to raise the hood of her car, and they disconnected the horn. That's when I saw the big picture. They were good guys.
That’s an amazing story! Thank you very much for sharing it and for watching my video!
Ah, the mythical 1%ers, those self-proclaimed elite in the motorcycle world. It's as if they believe they possess a superpower, but in reality, it's more like a comedy of errors. They roar around on their loud bikes, like a parade of peacocks trying to impress with their noise. But all they manage to do is draw eye-rolls and bemused chuckles from the rest of us.
They demand respect like it's a currency, but little do they realize that true respect isn't earned through intimidation or claims of superiority. It's earned through decency, integrity, and being a contributing member of society. But that concept seems to elude them, lost in the fog of their deluded self-importance.
And let's not forget about their infamous "Ol Ladies" - those toothless wonders with voices that could rival a truck driver's. They puff away on their Marlboros, as if trying to compete in a chain-smoking Olympics. It's a sight to behold, a carnival of oddities that leaves the world scratching its head in wonder.
So here's to the 1%ers, the self-styled rulers of the motorcycle kingdom. May they continue to provide us with endless entertainment, a never-ending parade of pomposity and folly. Long live the circus of the 1%!
So this was pretty funny and well thought out. While some of the things you speak of are quite true, I’ll say that there’s more to most of these folks than meets the eye. More than chain smoking, loud bikes and demanding respect. However you are free to feel and assume away. Thank you for watching and for your well written feedback.
thanks for the video. helps me understand just what clubs are.
Pretty well spoken and it's a good video for the newbe's who have no clue about three patch MC members and a word of caution like Smitty said never touch a members vest ☠️ you might get told never do that again or you might get the tar beat out of you 💀
Thank you very much my friend. Yeah this was advice for those who have never been around clubs and need to learn. Better to hear it from me then to learn the hard way!
and thats exactly why we keep away from childish 1%ers. They don't show us any respect and they demand special treatment based on their own made up rules. They resort to violence when outdebated and are generally not friendly people... the respect they talk so much about they understand so little of...
Being a member you allways end up putting you neck on the line because another unstable member did something stupid. you end up a criminal wit a rapsheet and state debt... and for what??? A life looking over you shoulder?
Whats not to like... (Taste the sarcasm) LOL
Personally I ride to be free as an individual, not to be opressed by insane hieraki and rules... but to each their own I guess. As a big brother, my prodest moment is when I talked my younger brother out of becoming a sergent of arms in a newly formed faction of 81 supporters in my local town... They wanted him real bad because he had a reputation (we both did in our own ways).
I spent a whole day talking pros and cons with him. I made him realize he would allways come out on top if he wasn't responsible for a flock of morons...
What if you go up to a club member and compliment there cut, would this be a sign of disrespect?
No I wouldn’t think that would be seen as disrespectful. However there are some members of certain clubs that won’t talk about their cuts to an outsider so just be aware of that.
As soon as you said the word Wench I got flashbacks to a childhood movie
"To the winch, wench!" 😂
I don't spend much time in places where other riders congregate so I haven't spent any time with anyone in a club. Sounds like common sense stuff though - show them the same respect that you expect for yourself and everything is good 👍
Hahaha!!! That's funny Walt! Wench!
Yeah, It's just common sense rules for everyone but there's some people who just don't know.
You need to get around other riders man!
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
Neverending Story and the Princess Bride...lol.
Way back in 1977-78 in NOVA (N Virginia) my buddy got invited to a Pagan MC party. Back then they were based out of NOVA and were just starting to expand into PA. My buddy was friends with the President of the Pagans MC so me and other friends went with him to the party. We well understood the rules and to show respect. My friend introduced us to the President of the Pagans who at the time, was Fred "Dutch" Burhans. He was very friendly and welcoming to us so we partied with him for a while and then left with no issues, no problems. Sadly Dutch was killed less about two years later in a shootout in Fairfax VA.
That’s a great story and a cool piece of history. Thank you very much for sharing it. Very true, if you are respectful you will always be treated well and have a good time! Thanks for watching!
Good stuff man, thanks!
Thank you very much sir!
Well said sir! As a 99% family club member respect is absolutely key
Thank you for the kind words and for watching! And I absolutely agree that respect is key.
Good topic for new riders, keep it up🦬
Yea sir, and thank you very much for watching!
Hey, one of my bikes is a 2014 Honda Valkyrie 1800. Bought it new in '15 for a really good price! Absolutely fantastic bike! Any experienced rider, who can be really honest with themselves, could only agree. Imo, one of the best bikes ever made, even if you don't like it's looks. Been riding for decades, always owned at least one bike, long before the current trend of new riders...who ride maybe 1000 miles a year.. Where I live on the Chedder curtain (wi/il border) there quite a few MCs... I though have never been a member of any club...nor do I really know any who are..(that I know of).. Personally, I have zero problems with MCs...never had an issue, or need to know of any. For me, motorcycling is all about freedom, and being in a club, well it appears it would create conflict with my own beliefs. I have to be free .hard core... I ride primarily with my woman on the back always, just the two of us on one bike. I do though, on ocassion frequent bars in where I see MC members. I treat them as any individule...with respect. To me it's all a pseudo brotherhood...as riding motorcycles is loads of fun and can be dangerous. But it stops there... merely aquiantances of a mutual interest. It takes basic sense to see whom you should speak to, and those you should not. I try to be friendly, and keep a low profile, even doing so on a Valkyrie, or BMW R18 is quite difficult to do as 99% of all bikes up here are HD. Most of your video deals with basic common sense.
Sounds like you have some very nice bikes! I agree with you, most of the video is just common sense and about being a decent human being. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
If I’m not in a club your club rules only matter and apply to you.
Very true. I should have put suggestions in the title. People are getting really upset over the word rules. Which is funny considering we are forced to follow rules every single day…
Christian Motorcycle Association has had to earn respect in 1% circles by earning it over a long period of time following this videos specific recommendations. Thank you for explaining. Well done!
Thank you very much for the kind words and for watching. Much respect to the CMA riders out there.
Thank you Smitty for the informative information. So I dont get my @$$ beat.
I seriously doubt you’d get your ass beat! You’re a nice guy and I think you’re smart enough to be respectful. Thanks for watching and for the feedback buddy!
3:54 You can be as respectful as you want, if a member takes a dislike to you for any reason, he doesn't like the way you looked at him, he doesn't like your clothes, or whatever, you're going to have a bad time. My advice is, if you aren't a member, or not the friend of a member, don't approach them. They deal with wannabes every day. They usually do not have time for them.
I agree. Some members just don’t like to be approached. Thanks for watching and for the advice.
All in the title: No club, no rules. Ain't nobody telling me what to do. The clubs aren't the law. Stop letting them have any say in what you wear.
I have delt with two 1%ers who gave me "friendly advice" about vchanging my clothes.
"I don't have anything to do with your supportgroup and are you the fucking fashion police?" is usually enough to make them walk off. if not just ask to see their pres and solve this right away. Any good pres wil know not to start being fascist fashion police against the public. Any good mobster knows you need the support of locals if you wanna succeed. Only supporters and hangarounds think they can act like big men by intimidating the public... and usually the ones in charge are not on board with any of that.
This might sound stupid but what does it mean earning the patch? Is it like some amazing race type thing? Do i have to complete challenges. How does one earn it?
It’s exactly like the amazing race! Naw, I’m just kidding. You earn your patch by being a good brother to the club and showing you want to be a part of it. Working hard and being there for the club. Just basically showing your dedication, work ethic and that you want to be involved. Simplest answer I know.
MLHR Red White 81
Excellent video with loads of wisdom. Appreciate you
Thank you for the kind words and for watching.
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Thank you very much for watching!
Living in Florida one of my best friends grew up with is Sargent at arms in the outlaws up north I hung with a bunch of pagons never joined just hung with them showed respect and was given it.
That’s awesome! And very true, if you show respect then you will get respect in return. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Too many fuckin rules!..most people ride for the freedom!
I agree! We ride for freedom. However you follow rules everyday in society. Right? Everyday. These aren’t rules more like suggestions. Everyone keeps getting caught up on the word rules when you follow rules everyday. See what I’m getting at?
A question for anyone who knows!!!RED AND White are the hells colours,is it disrespectful to use these colours on any type patch?I don’t mean the winged death head, I mean any other type of patch using these colours.
There’s only so many colors out there to use but my personal opinion is to steer clear of having the same colors as any 1% club in your patch. It is seen as disrespectful air can be seen as you are claiming to be associated with them. Which if you aren’t can cause major issues. I’m not an expert by any means this is just my advice and what I have seen and heard.
I pulled into a gas station where maybe 50 dozen bikers were revving their bikes and waiting to go into formation. Their bikes were blocking the pumps, so we waited. But after 5 minutes I walked up to the really creepy one with the tattoos on his face, shook his hand, looked him in the face, and said "how long are you going to be here?" He scowled at me, and I said, "Look, I don't want to ride with you, and I don't care what you do, it's none of my business, but everyone else here needs gas, so could you please go now?" He took his time, but he got out of the way. I work in a job where I deal with shitheads all the time, and I developed a serious way of talking to people. I'm not looking to get my way, I' not looking to get respect, I'm just looking to get my job done.
Most of the time clubs will be respectful of others around and move or be courteous. Not all the time, there’s jerks in all walks of life. But for the most part clubs and club members are respectful. Thanks for watching.
Great video! People who ride and go to biker events need to know this.
Thank you very much! I appreciate the support!