Great video, but I wish you would spend more time in the hardest/tightest seemingly impossible to get in to spots, and the techniques used. This is where most people need the greatest amount of advice.
Yeah, we publish these videos to illustrate the details needed to install an audio upgrade. For fanatics not comfortable doing the installation themselves, we suggest contacting an Authorized Rockford Fosgate motorcycle-audio dealer (www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealers). Look for locations with the "Motorcycle Wheel" icon.
You're referring to ONLY swapping out the speakers and not using a kit/amplifier, correct? For strictly overall loudness sake, the 2006-2013 HD has +5dB more output. 2014 and newer bikes are negligible. Either way, sound is improved because these aren't just car audio speakers in a fairing frame. The Rockford Fosgate motorcycle audio speakers are specifically tuned to SOUND AWESOME while riding on the highway. Our engineering team took frequency response and loudness measurements on Arizona highways up to 75MPH in 10MPH increments. Armed with this data, our engineers specially "tuned" the speakers around the wind & road noise so you get the best sound possible on a motorcycle. Don't take our word for it, nearly all visitors running through our booth at STURGIS said there was a significant improvement in sound quality and loudness.
Have a question do you make anything for a metric bikes I have a Vulcan 900 classic but I do have Harley Davidson saddlebags on it looking for speakers for the handlebars and saddlebag I always see things for Harley Davidson but nothing Metric bikes
Hi Steve, We only make kits for Harley-Davidson, but since you have H-D saddlebags (assuming they are the hard-shell models), you can use our Road King kits. They feature a 6x9" in each bag-lid and include expansion ports that reside under the seat for adding your own lowers or handlebar speakers in the future. Here's the info on those kits, please note there are 2 kits available, depending on what year your hardshell bags are: 2014+ H-D Saddlebags: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rk-stage2/ 1998-2013 H-D Saddlebags: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd9813rk-stage2/
Would be awesome if you could include information about whether it is necessary for the speaker housing to be mounted flush to the fairing with the aftermarket speakers as it was with the factory speakers. Also, give information about whether a screen is necessary or not when using aftermarket which requires removal of factory screen in order to be able to mount the speaker pod flush to the fairing with the larger face of the aftermarket speakers.
Thanks for your feedback, we'll add your suggestions to future videos on the Street Glide. We do recommend the speaker grilles be used with our kit for optimum protection. The replacement grille does fit slightly different compared to the factory, but the tolerance is perfectly fine with them installed.
Sorry, we missed your earlier message, as you probably figured this out by now. If not, an alternate way to remove the pods is by removing the radio: 1) Disconnect the radio harnesses and remove the 4 top screws out of the radio chassis. 2) Carefully slide the radio out. 3) You will see the top of the bolts when looking down into the radio cavity. This might be easier for you to access them.
@@roccobattaglia6321 You should be good without the flash. When you do add an amplifier, it’s pretty much mandatory. Appreciate you asking the question!
Hi David, by "sounds mats" are you referring to Sound Deadening (Stick-On Damping Mat)? This does not change the "sound" of the front fairing speakers it just adds mass to the enclosure so it resonates at a lower frequency. This is especially good if you have a lot of vibrations, where it will not vibrate and cause aberrant noises as easily. However, you shouldn't have to worry too much about that on the fairing speakers because the enclosure behind it is pretty rigid. The frequency response of the TMS65 bring a lot of vocals and clarity to your music. We tailored the speaker's response by measuring wind, road, and exhaust noise on a Street Glide and Road Glide in 10 MPH increments up to 75 MPH on the highways here in Arizona. Using this data, our in-house loudspeaker engineer adjusted the response of the TMS speakers so they sound best while actually riding the motorcycle. Novel idea, but they are custom tailored for Harley-Davidson and NOT a car audio speaker with a small magnet to fit on a motorcycle.
Hi Tim, unfortunately we don't. It's simple though, pop the grilles off, unscrew the speakers, connect the new TMS65's, screw them back in. Pop the grille back on. You may want to use a dab of silicone to keep the grille on.
@@airbornemedic84 Want to make sure we're understanding you correctly. The HD9813RG-TKIT, HD9813SG-TKIT, and HD14-TKIT are supplied with a 4-channel output harness. The front outputs run directly to the left and right fairing speakers, so those cables are short. The rear is a loop that runs to the back TourPak location to "pick up" the signal. It then runs to the input of the amplifier and back out to the upgraded TMS TourPak speakers. This makes a 2-channel output for the fairing, and 2-channel output for the TourPak. If you have the TMS69BL9813 or TMS69BL14 rear baglid kit, it "swaps out" the TourPak harness in lieu of the baglids, still keeping the 4-channel output harness design (2-channel for the fairing, and 2-channel for the baglids). If you have a front audio kit only, you can tap into the TourPak speaker outputs to run the lowers. If you have the baglid kit, you can tap into those to run the lowers. Either way, the amplifier's rear channels will be running at a 2-ohms, which will be fine, but the amplifier's rear gain control may need to be adjusted to balance the sound with the front fairing speakers. If I am completely off base and nothing I mentioned matches what you have, feel free to contact our technical support Mon-Fri. 8am - 5pm MST @ 1-800-669-9899.
You're referring to the Ultra Limited H-D? They use a different harness system. However, we think you have a really, really good idea for make a kit for them, if you know what we mean...
The actual motorcycle models are identified on our Compatibility Charts, but for the videos (to keep the titles short) we simply identify them as using a Sharknose fairing (Road Glide style) of Batwing fairing (Street Glide style).
We have newer installation videos that are cover our current kits that are available in our playlist here: 2014+ Harley Install (Gen-3) ua-cam.com/play/PL-ob-nWq0t1gtXXzZo-7l9IW44-FQmvA8.html
That's exactly why we show the work needed to install these Rockford Fosgate motorcycle audio kits. For those not comfortable doing it themselves, we recommend contacting an Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer familiar with Motorcycles. Use our dealer locator (www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealers) and look for locations with the "Motorcycle Wheel" icon.
Yes, we flashed all of our radios, but we don't show that in the training videos. The main issue many HD owner's have is the desire to want it LOUD while riding 45-75 MPH versus enhanced sound quality with lots of EQ. Producing lower-frequency bass on a "open-air" motorcycle requires lots of power and lots of cone area ...something a larger diameter subwoofer is better capable of handling. There's also very little to reflect bass waves, and since they are much longer in wavelength, this is a real necessity. You can tune a motorcycle system for SPL or SQ, but it's extremely hard to do both and have it play loud, especially without a subwoofer.... and even that on a bike has its limitations.
Could you be a little more specific on what we didn't show? We literally walk you through what bolts to remove and what size driver to use at the below time-codes. However, if you're not comfortable working on this yourself, we suggest contacting an Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer locator at www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/ 01:45 = Use a T-27 Torx driver to remove the 4 fairing screws 02:05 = Remove 3 screws across the top of the fairing 02:42 = While supporting the fairing with one hand, unplug the headlight 02:50 = Remove the fairing 03:25 = Remove top 3 outer screws on the speaker pods using a 3/16” Allen driver, 03:35 = Take out 2 upper screws using a 5/32” Allen driver 03:43 = Remove 3 lower bolts with a 7/16” socket 04:25 = Use panel & hook tool to remove harnesses 05:00 = Remove the communication module using a T-25 Torx driver 06:30 = Remove 3 screws to remove factory grille 07:50 = Remove 4 screws holding old speakers in place
Our apologies, whether an Electra Glide® or Street Glide® we're referring to the "batwing" fairing commonly used on the Street Glide, since this fairing uses the same 6.5" full-range speaker frame style.
@@2hulahands If you’re uncomfortable with this level of disassembly, we have a list of Rockford Fosgate dealers that can help. You can search by zip code at www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/
Great video, but I wish you would spend more time in the hardest/tightest seemingly impossible to get in to spots, and the techniques used. This is where most people need the greatest amount of advice.
Man, I’m glad I have a Road Glide. That was alot of work.
Yeah, we publish these videos to illustrate the details needed to install an audio upgrade. For fanatics not comfortable doing the installation themselves, we suggest contacting an Authorized Rockford Fosgate motorcycle-audio dealer (www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealers). Look for locations with the "Motorcycle Wheel" icon.
Good instructional video.. Would you guy suggest adding any sound deading material to the inside or outside of the speaker Pods?
Totally up to you. We don’t on any of our installs, so it’s a personal preference.
Could u leave the oem grills and just change ouf the speaker? Id like to leave mine as they have harley logo on then
@@andrewward4486 Yes, you can absolutely leave the HD grilles on and just swap out the speaker if you like.
How much louder is it with just speaker upgrade? Or just add the amp if you want it to really be louder?
You're referring to ONLY swapping out the speakers and not using a kit/amplifier, correct? For strictly overall loudness sake, the 2006-2013 HD has +5dB more output. 2014 and newer bikes are negligible. Either way, sound is improved because these aren't just car audio speakers in a fairing frame. The Rockford Fosgate motorcycle audio speakers are specifically tuned to SOUND AWESOME while riding on the highway. Our engineering team took frequency response and loudness measurements on Arizona highways up to 75MPH in 10MPH increments. Armed with this data, our engineers specially "tuned" the speakers around the wind & road noise so you get the best sound possible on a motorcycle. Don't take our word for it, nearly all visitors running through our booth at STURGIS said there was a significant improvement in sound quality and loudness.
Have a question do you make anything for a metric bikes I have a Vulcan 900 classic but I do have Harley Davidson saddlebags on it looking for speakers for the handlebars and saddlebag I always see things for Harley Davidson but nothing Metric bikes
Hi Steve,
We only make kits for Harley-Davidson, but since you have H-D saddlebags (assuming they are the hard-shell models), you can use our Road King kits. They feature a 6x9" in each bag-lid and include expansion ports that reside under the seat for adding your own lowers or handlebar speakers in the future. Here's the info on those kits, please note there are 2 kits available, depending on what year your hardshell bags are:
2014+ H-D Saddlebags:
rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rk-stage2/
1998-2013 H-D Saddlebags:
rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd9813rk-stage2/
Would be awesome if you could include information about whether it is necessary for the speaker housing to be mounted flush to the fairing with the aftermarket speakers as it was with the factory speakers.
Also, give information about whether a screen is necessary or not when using aftermarket which requires removal of factory screen in order to be able to mount the speaker pod flush to the fairing with the larger face of the aftermarket speakers.
Thanks for your feedback, we'll add your suggestions to future videos on the Street Glide. We do recommend the speaker grilles be used with our kit for optimum protection. The replacement grille does fit slightly different compared to the factory, but the tolerance is perfectly fine with them installed.
Cannot get these damn speaker pods off! So frustrating
Sorry, we missed your earlier message, as you probably figured this out by now. If not, an alternate way to remove the pods is by removing the radio:
1) Disconnect the radio harnesses and remove the 4 top screws out of the radio chassis.
2) Carefully slide the radio out.
3) You will see the top of the bolts when looking down into the radio cavity. This might be easier for you to access them.
When you're just doing the fairing speaker replacement, do you need to have the radio flashed?/2021 Street Glide.
Yes, if there is an aftermarket amplifier involved.
NO AMP. Just speakers.
@@roccobattaglia6321 You should be good without the flash. When you do add an amplifier, it’s pretty much mandatory. Appreciate you asking the question!
Would these speakers sounds better if you put in the sounds mats in the enclosure. I hope that make sense.
Hi David, by "sounds mats" are you referring to Sound Deadening (Stick-On Damping Mat)? This does not change the "sound" of the front fairing speakers it just adds mass to the enclosure so it resonates at a lower frequency. This is especially good if you have a lot of vibrations, where it will not vibrate and cause aberrant noises as easily. However, you shouldn't have to worry too much about that on the fairing speakers because the enclosure behind it is pretty rigid.
The frequency response of the TMS65 bring a lot of vocals and clarity to your music. We tailored the speaker's response by measuring wind, road, and exhaust noise on a Street Glide and Road Glide in 10 MPH increments up to 75 MPH on the highways here in Arizona. Using this data, our in-house loudspeaker engineer adjusted the response of the TMS speakers so they sound best while actually riding the motorcycle. Novel idea, but they are custom tailored for Harley-Davidson and NOT a car audio speaker with a small magnet to fit on a motorcycle.
Can you tell me where you got the swivel socket from online?
That is a Steelman Pro swivel extension. On our newer videos, we simply suggest a socket, swivel, and extension.
Do you guys have a video on how to install the TMS65 speakers into the lower fairing with this kit?
Hi Tim, unfortunately we don't. It's simple though, pop the grilles off, unscrew the speakers, connect the new TMS65's, screw them back in. Pop the grille back on. You may want to use a dab of silicone to keep the grille on.
@@rockfordfosgate I have the 4 speaker harness (not installed) does the swap from the 2 speaker harness happen fairly easily?
@@airbornemedic84 Want to make sure we're understanding you correctly. The HD9813RG-TKIT, HD9813SG-TKIT, and HD14-TKIT are supplied with a 4-channel output harness. The front outputs run directly to the left and right fairing speakers, so those cables are short. The rear is a loop that runs to the back TourPak location to "pick up" the signal. It then runs to the input of the amplifier and back out to the upgraded TMS TourPak speakers. This makes a 2-channel output for the fairing, and 2-channel output for the TourPak.
If you have the TMS69BL9813 or TMS69BL14 rear baglid kit, it "swaps out" the TourPak harness in lieu of the baglids, still keeping the 4-channel output harness design (2-channel for the fairing, and 2-channel for the baglids).
If you have a front audio kit only, you can tap into the TourPak speaker outputs to run the lowers. If you have the baglid kit, you can tap into those to run the lowers. Either way, the amplifier's rear channels will be running at a 2-ohms, which will be fine, but the amplifier's rear gain control may need to be adjusted to balance the sound with the front fairing speakers.
If I am completely off base and nothing I mentioned matches what you have, feel free to contact our technical support Mon-Fri. 8am - 5pm MST @ 1-800-669-9899.
Why don't you make a kit for a Ultran 2014 and up?
You're referring to the Ultra Limited H-D? They use a different harness system. However, we think you have a really, really good idea for make a kit for them, if you know what we mean...
Rockford Fosgate Ultra or Limited it's the same. The bike you are working on is a Ultra hot a Street Glide.
The actual motorcycle models are identified on our Compatibility Charts, but for the videos (to keep the titles short) we simply identify them as using a Sharknose fairing (Road Glide style) of Batwing fairing (Street Glide style).
Thank you! Try my best. 😅
We have newer installation videos that are cover our current kits that are available in our playlist here:
2014+ Harley Install (Gen-3)
ua-cam.com/play/PL-ob-nWq0t1gtXXzZo-7l9IW44-FQmvA8.html
@@rockfordfosgate i drive a 107 2018 sgs, found the other clip. Will try soon. Thanks you!!! 👌🏻
Lots of work to remove and replace the speakers.
That's exactly why we show the work needed to install these Rockford Fosgate motorcycle audio kits. For those not comfortable doing it themselves, we recommend contacting an Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer familiar with Motorcycles. Use our dealer locator (www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealers) and look for locations with the "Motorcycle Wheel" icon.
Rockford Fosgate did you have to flash the radio. mine 16 street glide sounds loud but flat
Yes, we flashed all of our radios, but we don't show that in the training videos. The main issue many HD owner's have is the desire to want it LOUD while riding 45-75 MPH versus enhanced sound quality with lots of EQ. Producing lower-frequency bass on a "open-air" motorcycle requires lots of power and lots of cone area ...something a larger diameter subwoofer is better capable of handling. There's also very little to reflect bass waves, and since they are much longer in wavelength, this is a real necessity. You can tune a motorcycle system for SPL or SQ, but it's extremely hard to do both and have it play loud, especially without a subwoofer.... and even that on a bike has its limitations.
Damn REALLY??? that's WAYYYY too much work to add two speakers, I'll just stick with my stock ones.
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass to get the front speaker pods off a batwing fairing. It's unfortunate the stock speakers don't handle more power.
Not very useful. You didn't demonstrate any techniques for disassembly. Disappointing .......
Could you be a little more specific on what we didn't show? We literally walk you through what bolts to remove and what size driver to use at the below time-codes. However, if you're not comfortable working on this yourself, we suggest contacting an Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer locator at www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/
01:45 = Use a T-27 Torx driver to remove the 4 fairing screws
02:05 = Remove 3 screws across the top of the fairing
02:42 = While supporting the fairing with one hand, unplug the headlight
02:50 = Remove the fairing
03:25 = Remove top 3 outer screws on the speaker pods using a 3/16” Allen driver,
03:35 = Take out 2 upper screws using a 5/32” Allen driver
03:43 = Remove 3 lower bolts with a 7/16” socket
04:25 = Use panel & hook tool to remove harnesses
05:00 = Remove the communication module using a T-25 Torx driver
06:30 = Remove 3 screws to remove factory grille
07:50 = Remove 4 screws holding old speakers in place
Thats not a Street Glide lol
Our apologies, whether an Electra Glide® or Street Glide® we're referring to the "batwing" fairing commonly used on the Street Glide, since this fairing uses the same 6.5" full-range speaker frame style.
This does not look “easy”
@@2hulahands If you’re uncomfortable with this level of disassembly, we have a list of Rockford Fosgate dealers that can help. You can search by zip code at www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/