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I'm a stomach sleeper who is large to say the least the purple mattress I use makes me feel great! Any thoughts if this would still work or if I should bother checking it out?
Loved this video! Always felt more comfortable sleeping on the floor myself. I would recommend removing items underneath the bed as to not absorb the energy of them while you’re resting. I’ve always noticed my sleep improved when I did that. Thank you for the inspo! 🙏🏼
@@TheBudgetguy_K.T if your mattress makes you feel great.... and you watched this entire video... why are you asking? Its clear if"you should bother checking it out".
I've been sleeping on the floor (on just a tatami mat) for about 8 years, and I no longer have back issues that I had when sleeping on a bed. I'm in my 70s and I think getting up and down from the floor helps, too.
So good to see someone in their 70s doing things like this! So often I hear people, even when they are in their 50s, already saying things like "I'm too old for this". But doing things like this is exactly what keeps the body young!
I will be 58 years old this year, got my Futon mattress nearly 3 years ago after watching Cade's original video. The best decision I ever made. Back and neck pain went and have stayed away after the first week. Also, I find it easier getting up from the floor each morning than I ever did getting out of a standard raised bed. I also have better sleep and feel totally rested each morning now. To get an idea of how it would feel, as I waited for my futon to be handmade and delivered, I stuffed 2 quilts into a quilt cover and used that as a temporary measure. It is similar to a futon, but the actual futon is even better. Give the 2 quilts a try and get an idea of how it feels before you buy your futon. I hope this helps.
I sleep on a Thai kapok mattress. I am 60. I can roll it up if needed during the day. I would not wish to sleep in a "normal" bed ever again. I have also just slept on a duvet and also just on the floor. I have also just got rid of my sofa as it was not helping my back.
I been having back problems when I was 19-20. I decided to sleep on futon, and I never went back from it. Futons are so easy to give your room more space and I don’t have any back problems anymore (due to sitting and studying too much for uni).
I'm 72. I have a tatami mat and cotton futon but did have to add a 2" foam pad under that. I'm a side sleeper and it was just too hard on my shoulders. I second the idea that getting up off the floor a lot is great for seniors. Will not go back to a conventional mattress. My back feels great. And look into getting a buckwheat hull pillow too.
There's a channel on UA-cam called Brett's Pillows, or some such. He says millet hull pillows are even better as they don't make so much noise. Worth checking out
holy shit. I watched your video about sleeping on the floor 4 years ago and haven’t seen your channel since. my jaw dropped when I realized who you were. how crazy to see your channel again. I too have slept on the floor everyday since. thank you!
My neck and back had been hurting me for awhile and one night I got out of bed in so much pain and laid on the floor and started feeling relief. So I took some wool left over from insulating our tiny house- pure wool from havelock - and sewed them together into a little mattress and put it on the floor and have been feeling so much better. The first few weeks were a little uncomfortable but now I can’t even imagine sleeping on a mattress as I’m so comfy on the floor. I also hang my wool mattress outside on the clothes line in the sun every couple of days to air it out and dry it as I do notice moisture build up on the bottom. Thanks for spreading the word 🙏🏼 ✌️
From what I've seen people say, you could look into getting a tatami mat (or something similar). It should help with keeping your little mattress from keeping all the moisture on solid ground
I was told in 2004 , after a lightning strike in July of 2000 that damaged a plastic part in my L4L5 disc that I would never walk again without assistance of some type at the very best but once I began to reduce pain medications and exercise and sleep on a sheet of plywood with a two inch thick matt on top of a bamboo roll out floor cover along with cannabis use over heavy pain medication I began to walk bipedal and up right in 9 months . I now walk very well and give the credit to no pain medication, exercise and sleeping on that 2 inch matt on top of an half an inch sheet of plywood with a 1/4 in thick bamboo matt....
I slept on on this style of bed on the floor for over 10 years! It was only recently I decided to try a Western mattress with a bedframe and everything, etc. It was wicked expensive to gather everything I needed. It's real cozy and a nice change of pace but I'm already dreaming of going back to a Japanese-style futon later on. I was so happy with it!
So I watched your first Q&A about 2 or 3 years ago whenever it was posted and that's what convinced me to convert so now I've been sleeping on one directly on the floor 2 1/2 years now and I prefer sleeping on it than anything else
Two years in and still loving the Japanese futon. I can’t see myself going back. And as you mentioned I believe the physical act of getting on and off the floor is a great heal be if it long term and could allow for much better mobility in an older age.
I totally agree! I think it's very important especially as you age. Elderly people in Japan have amazing mobility. I think floor shikibutons, and their emphasis on sitting and being one with the floor, is a large contributor to this.
It really depends on how your spine anatomy looks, for reference you can check out dr stuart mcgills videos where he discusses sleeping on hard matrasses vs soft. For some people sleeping on a hard matras or floor can really be an improvement, but marketing this as a fix for all is actually misleading and can lead to harm.
I love it. I want to do it as well. Yes, getting up and down would keep us so mobile. The Japanese seem so at ease in their spaces. And I so adore the simple aesthetic of it very much.
Have been using a tatami for 7 years as a foundation. Still smells like grass, no mould, still in one piece. Used it with a 15 cm futon which has cotton and a natural latex sheet in it. Just replaced it because the middle had the Mariana Trench lengthwise, with a non-toxic hd cold foam (on the tatami). Working out well so far as well.
This video should have millions of views, I clicked on it cuz I've had neck and back problems for years and I take great care of my health so it's very frustrating to be on constant pain and I've heard that sleeping on the floor is great for back pain so hearing all these other things about chemicals in American made mattresses is just the icing on the cake. Thank you for making this video.
I just bought a "top-of-the-line" bed a few months ago and when I wake up, I like to do yoga in the morning, but I'm in so much pain that I need 1-2 hours of rest before I can get going with my exercises. Your video has inspired me to fix this because I was wondering about the best way to sleep on the floor.
I have posted in another comment here that to get a cheap indicator of how it feels, I stuffed 2 quilts into one quilt cover whilst waiting for my futon to be delivered. It's a similar experience although the futon feels much better. Had my futon for nearly 3 years now and wish I had found out about them much sooner than I did.
As someone who grew up in Japan, lived here all my life from 55 years ago, and spent much of that time sleeping on futons, I found it quite ironic that you thought it hard to find space in your small rooms with your futons, and yet never once mentioned one of the prime reasons Japanese created and use futons: to fold up and store in the “oshiire” (futon closet) during the day, to open up the floor space. Traditionally, Japanese homes were quite small, and rooms were multi-use, to make the best use of the limited space.
I tried sleeping on a floor mattress for a couple of months and couldn't do it anymore. I woke up sore every morning and it actually made my back pain worse. I went back to a traditional mattress and sleep much better
i have been sleeping on a futon on top of a tatami mat since 2018. it just feels right for me. i have always slept on the floor. when i travel and i stay in hotels, i sleep on the floor.
Saw that you’re looking into pillows so wanted to share what I ended up going with as a side sleeper. I got a 6” cube shape natural latex pillow on Amazon and really like it. Same idea as the pillow cube with the square shape fitting the shoulder gap better than a traditional pillow, it’s just not memory foam. You can get your pillow height by laying on the bed on your side and measure the space from the bed to the side of your head. You can also do this standing against a wall. I also have a shikibuton and ran into the issue of having too flat of a pillow since my shoulder doesn’t sink into the bed like a traditional mattress so just thought I’d share. The one I got was the Turmerry Cuboid Side Sleeper Pillow Long (24x12)/ High 6”/ Soft. Absolutely love your videos! Keep up the good work!
I’ve been sleeping on one of these for a few years now…all natural cotton, eucalyptus and maybe some wool ?, from futon d’or. Love it❣️ My back is much better now, from also sitting cross legged on the floor at a small table/desk, and wellthier overall with other WELLthier lifestyle choices included. I’m turning 60 and I’m in better shape now. 💝 An fyi. I flipped it over once at first, not realizing how much moisture our bodies emit, and got mould growth. Airing it in the sun got rid of it. Now I typically put it out in the sun/air for a few hours every couple weeks…flipping it to get both sides
I’ve been sleeping on the floor for about 7 years, and I made the switch to a tatami mat about 5 years ago. I will never go back to a regular bed! I even sleep on the floor when I stay in hotels. My posture, energy, joint health, etc have all vastly improved from giving up traditional western mattresses.
I broke my neck and jaw 22 years ago, and I’ve been sleeping on the floor for over a decade now. I used to live in Korea, and I always admired their amazing postures, and when I couldn’t sleep in a bed without feeling all of the little stabilizer muscles in my spine, ribs, and stomach working all night long, I remembered that Koreans slept on the floor. So I got out of bed, and slept right on the floor. Then I got a bed roll and have been sleeping on it ever since.
I was sleeping on just some thin yoga type mat for a while and completely became used to the hardness and flatness. Then I saw pieces of plastic coming off and switched to a foldable cotton mattress filled with kapok. It's comfortable yet flat and not overly soft, and of course natural materials :)
I’m at the one month mark floor sleeping and still ache but it’s getting better. I’m 51 and trying my hardest to adjust. I know I’ll get there. Love my Shikibuton. There’s something so simple and childlike about it 💜
I remember watching your videos a few years ago; they inspired me to look into futons and floor sleeping, and mattresses that have certifications for "natural" materials that at least put off less VOCS. I went with Avocado Green Mattress, which I have found doesn't irritate my allergy that flared up when I used a cheap mattress topper in college!
Wow amazing! Yes a lot people report allergies to mattress toppers, it's a sad industry. Stoked to hear you are liking your need mattress and floor sleeping!
hi! I remember your original video on shikibuton when I had got it back in the day and it's nice to see that you still are following sleeping on it. Personally, I was skeptical with having to fold and lay out the mattress every time I sleep and wake up, but now I think it's a great discipline and it frees up so much space.
I've noticed when sleeping in my bed on my thick mattress my back is essentially locked up upon waking. Been sleeping on my harder couch and back feels better. Been looking into futons due to your old video on sleeping on the floor.
i have a very small bedroom that I also use as my work space and lounge space, It is so nice to not have a bedframe occupy the little space I do have since this type of bed is v flexible with how we use spaces.
Thank you for this comprehensive account on the subject. My son, now 42, has suffered back problems practically all his adult life. He has a bulging disc and recently suggested a tatami mattress might help. I slept on one for about seven months when I lived in Japan and took to them immediately. I'm trying to find the authentic article here in the UK. Seems I'm gonna need to get the mat too
I just want to add to the conversation and play devil’s advocate. Having a mattress laying on a hard, cold floor can lead to mold growth!! This happened to me. Sometimes you need airflow under that mattress. He covers this toward the end of the video. Much love. Take care.
i used to sleep on the floor as a kid/teenager on foam my grandfather had from his days working as on upholstery for cars. i definitely have way more problems now with my current bed than i would while sleeping on the floor. I really want the setup you have but i just dont have the money for it. I have no problem going back to sleeping on the floor although i bet people who come over will find it funny at first until they see the benefits. Im all for changing things that are "normal" in a culture for no reason. almost everything we are sold day to day isnt really "for our benefit." So many aspects of life to learn about and im glad i found this video.
i sleep on a mattress on a slatted frame on the ground, and thought about getting a Futon, but read you are supposed to let it "air out" every day, Tatami mats or not, and thats why i couldn't bring myself to buy a Futon. Saw videos where people dragged it on the balcony and whatnot, and that seems 2 much hassle for me.
I don't air mine out. My house is poorly insulated and my bedroom is the coldest room in the house. I have s wiol rug, then tatami mat, with a 2" foam pad and a covered futon on that. When it got really cold, I put a thick wool blanket on top of the futon. When I frst started doing this, I would fold it up and remake it every night.
This is the first I have heard of this. Recently learning Japanese I feel like this might be something I look into for the future !!!! Hopefully there are no huge price jumps because of new found demand by then hahaha cheers for sharing Cheers!!!!!
Lawsuits can be filed by a person or group of people but it doesn't necessarily mean the other party is automatically guilty. As for the Tempur-Pedic lawsuit mentioned at 3:57, a federal judge denied the motion for reconsideration and class certification in 2017. Great video though!
This is an interesting topic to me and I do have some experience sleeping on the floor. In high school I slept on a futon directly on the floor exclusively and I remember being in a LOT of pain from it. I actually started sleeping with a bolster for my knees because of it, which did help a bit. I then slept on a standard twin mattress directly on the floor until I moved in with my partner at 22. We got a nice tempur pedic and I IMMEDIATELY felt no more back pain and felt like I got a real night’s sleep; he felt the same. I am not saying you’re wrong, just that my personal experience has been the opposite. In regards to the chemicals, I think it’s a good idea to limit your exposure for sure. However, everything we are in contact with (especially in the US) has something that probably causes cancer if we’re being honest. Our food, clothes, the air we breathe, etc. is all polluting us daily and there’s nothing we can do about it. Again, I am not disagreeing just being more realistic. I work with people who are in pain every day (LMT) and I can tell you there is so much that contributes to it. Yes, we are in bed a considerable amount of our lives so it definitely plays a huge role. But even the positions we sleep in makes a difference, regardless of how firm the mattress is. Just something to think about
In Iran, we have similar mattresses they look identical to futons but they are filled up with wool instead of cotton. We like the japanese have closets specifically for storing our matresses, it's the first thing you do after waking up, folding and storing the bed in the bed closet. This would also save your space problem.
The aesthetics of you sleeping on a futon in Japanese is beautiful. When you sleep on your futon at home, however, your bedroom looks like a poor college student. It's not easy to make a futon in a bedroom look good and inviting.
@@yt_n-c0de-r My comment is more of a damnation on cheap housing, made with drywall and wall-to-wall polyester carpeting. A futon on the floor in these cookie-cutter spaces looks low rent. There's a way in the West to use a futon beautifully but few people know how to do so. A great example is to Google search: Donald Judd 101 Spring Street
what advantages do the tatami mats bring? i built myself a bed with the normal wooden slatted frame, close enough so it feels like a solid surface. but the main thing i wanted to achieve with this is that it is aired out automatically so i dont have to carry it outside every week
The tatami mats are the traditional "thing" to put the shikibutons on. They are meant to allow the futon to breath and prevent mold and moisture. So if you're worried about mold, I would recommend them. although you can def do without one, just having to be more mindful about airing it out in the sun and ensuring it's moisture free. Do not buy amazon tatami mats, they are a scam. Tatami mats are suppose to be thick, and there's a specific way in which they are made for them to work properly. The ones in my description are the ones I use and are authentic from Japan, tatami mats. Basically just look for thick, handmade ones that are authentic.
I've been sleeping on the same futon mattresses from my childhood. They are filled with leftover offcuts of string, denim, foam egg crate material, and some wood chips. it has been the most comfortable sleep I have ever gotten. It's hard to sleep on anything else. (edit) I'm 26 now. So this futon mattress is from like 2003 or so.
Yea dude, I built a tatami platform in my bedroom (lots of storage underneath, and got a thin futon mattress 3 years ago. My back has never been better, and the natural smell of the tatami is amazing.
I also agree that there is probably a lot of benefit from being on the floor itself. Unfortunately, there are also centipedes and mice that crawl around on the floor, haha. I got a basic 12" high wood platform bedframe from amazon and put a tatami mat and japanese style futon on top.
Great video Cade. I am ordering the shikibuton right now. Can you share links to your comforter and blanket if you remember? I would assume they are organic cotton. I am having trouble finding good organic options for these online (that I like).
Good luck! If that's too firm, (keep in mind it takes some time to adjust) give the shikibuton a try. It's the perfect amount of cushion (surprisingly soft) but still very firm
If you find a proper futon expensive, buy a massive 4-season wool blanket and fold it double. I have done this with 2 different Lits Jumeaux (220x240 cm) 4-seazon blankets, for under 200 euro's each, the thinest futon is around 4 cm, standard is around 7 cm I believe, and folded doudble these wool blankets are between 4 - 7 cm.
He literally showed an elevated version of the futon on the floor thing at the end. And isn't it obvious that the floor or bed doesn't matter but the mattress does?
Great video. When I lived in San Francisco, I had two large walk in closets. In one closet I had a futon mattress that fit in the closet perfectly and I slept like that and had great ...some of the best sleep I have had. Esp if I wanted a blackout sleep I could close the doors. When I have slept in super cushy beds it takes me a long time to fall asleep....plus evening being on what I have not is raised bed but futon mattress but low and also find it is much easier to do any exercises in bed. In a soft bed it is much hard if you are always sinking like a ship LOL. Even as a kid I would often sleep on the floor and my Mom would fuss asking why when I have my own bed. As an athlete as a kid and into the teens I felt so much better actually sleeping on the floor, mind you this was carpet no just hardwood and would put blankets down.
I had a very similar, if not identical, alarm clock to yours. Just wanted to point out that it had the highest and most extensive EMF levels I've ever measured in any home device.
I slept on a shikibuton for years in college and I miss it a lot. I slept incredibly well as a stomach sleeper, however I can confirm gents that women in the west will think you are a big weirdo for sleeping on the floor. The stigma is real.
♥♥♥ Dude, you are so right! 20 years ago I bought a new bed frame and mattress that made me very sick for a year and nearly fkn killed me! At age 67, I am floor sleeping and out of bed hell. Yes... tatami + thin futon is great. I currently sleep on a persian rug ( on hard wood floor ) and kinda like that.
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I've been sleeping on the floor for 8 months - tatami + genuine shikibuton from Japan. Sadly it has not worked for me. I didn't have back issues prior but my goodness, some mornings I feel like I can't get up. My back and hips ache so much. I only weigh 57kgs. I thought my body would adjust but it just seems to get worse. I've ordered a bed and I cannot wait for its arrival.
I sleep with my mattress on the floor and I do love it. And I do have a Japanese twin XL futon but it’s too short to handle my back so I’m gonna be picking up a 6 inch twin XL foldable memory foam to go on top of the Japanese twin futon so I can have my definitive floor bed.
Cade, love your videos. I have a question…..I looked up the shikibuton you have and it says it is soft, but you recommend a firm mattress. I am looking for a firm mattress, any suggestions?
I bought my first Shikibuton 12 years ago for all the reasons you did. My kids all got theirs shortly after. Anyone who has slept on our beds love them and say they wake up less stiff or sore than in western beds. I hate sleeping in hotels 😒
There is a growing market for traditional materials in Netherlands especially when it comes to beds and sheets, just wool and fine-woven cotton are better than polyester. I really hope to make a difference by having worked in a furniture shop. The more natural the better should be the mindset, not maximising profit of the chemical industry.🤗 As a child I slept on the floor and now due to my disability I have to use a lifted bed sadly. I feel ashamed. The futons are within my budget also ! Not really more expensive than westernized beds.
I slept on the concrete during the recent Houston power outage I slept few hours but felt more rested than the last 6 years of sleeping on my mattress.
I’m going to Japan and staying in a traditional home at the end of the year, I hope it’s comfy! I have always found firm mattresses extremely uncomfortable and I’ll wake up all though the night. I have a memory foam mattress and I sleep 9-10 hours without waking up 😆
In india majority of people sleep on floor on something like futon, made of cotton. Because whole family lives in small place and not practical to have beds for everyone. During dat time they get rolled up and get stacked in one corner.
I’ve sLeeped on floor for a long time now, i have no couch, t.v. Or easychair. Or kitchen table. I real don’t give a fk what other people say. Its your life, I suggest you live it any way the hell you want to!
Hi, I recently had to throw out my own mattress which was shedding fiber glass. I'm really interested in purchasing a futon, but as a side sleeper I'm concerned about discomfort (particularly my hips). In your experience, would you say that the typical futon is a good choice for side sleepers? If it helps, I'm 5 foot 7 and weight roughly 125 pounds.
Aw I'm sorry. I've heard of issues with fiberglass getting into peoples skin. I would recommend checking out a 5 inch Shikibuton. That's going to give you little more cushion to sleep on your side. But even with 3 inches, it's doable. I sometimes sleep on my side and mine is 3 inches. Also know that your sleeping style may change once you purchase these. You may be gravitating to sleeping on your side due to the lack of support in your bed. Long story short, look for a thicker Shikibuton. You will still get the correct firmness you need due to the material they are made out of. Check out my description for the futon I have, you can select your thickness size there.
@@CadePriorFilms Thank you so much for the valuable info man. I've been trying to make a choice but with no testimonials from westerners outside of a few people on reddit I've had major analysis paralysis. I hope your channel continues to grow, you seem like a genuine guy who just wants to help people. Have a good one ✌
@@mr.whatitaint6143 Hi, if you're interested in another opinion from another side sleeper. When I first started sleeping on a thin mattress on the floor I naturally ended up sleeping on my back more often. Then as my body gradually adjusted over several months, I shifted back to sleeping on the side. I don't think it's an issue as long as you allow your body to get used to the new sensation of the harder surface and let yourself transition slowly. Your body will build up the muscles to be able to hold itself properly and eventually sleeping on your side will be comfortable even on the floor, and I'm only on 2 inches, so it's definitely doable.
@@mr.whatitaint6143side sleeper here! I was sleeping on a 3in futon for over two years and it was perfect for me. Been moving around a bit lately, but I can’t wait to get a futon back when I settle down!
Second night of floor sleeping. Threw out my bed yesterday. Got around four hours of sleep (again), but despite that I actually feel pretty darn good, even though I normally need at least six hours to function properly.
Hi cade, Thanks for the great info. I am wondering if these are mattress good option for a newborn or is there anything they mentioned about the age of the person to sleep on these beds?
I had my box spring break one year and I had to put my mattress on the ground for a few months. The best sleep I had was near or on the ground. I now have a bed frame that is pretty tall and I plan to get rid of it. Maybe even buying this kind of mattress
The lifted one looks pretty cool. I'm looking at them online and I'm remembering how much beds cost. I mean... it's good to spend proper money on a quality bed I suppose. Like a car.
I've bought one abo it a year ago now, several months later I gave it to my boyfriend and I started just sleeping on a matt and rug on my wood floor 😅😇
wouldn't ditching the bed frame save space, since you can just roll up the shikibuton during the day / hang it up to dry, and set the tatamis against a wall to dry also. essentially putting the bed away for the day
I bought a 3 inch 3 months ago, and was having trouble with it. I'm a side sleeper. After a month, I ended up putting it on top of the mattress. Any suggestions for side sleepers? Maybe I should try a 6 inch?
I do think that’s the main reason beds developed. But in Japan mould is a huge issue due to the humidity so it’s important you can actually wash the whole “bed” so to speak, or at least hang it to beat the dust. So in that sense futons are more hygienic. But definitely critters are the reason beds were developed. So Japan had to make a choice. Also their use of space , futons are folded up and put away so you can use the space for something else.
Just went on a podcast talking in depth about this topic, covered some more stuff not in this video. Check it out! ua-cam.com/video/NbrKLze5R54/v-deo.htmlsi=aWlutSSEzcYNI_el
I'm a stomach sleeper who is large to say the least the purple mattress I use makes me feel great! Any thoughts if this would still work or if I should bother checking it out?
Loved this video! Always felt more comfortable sleeping on the floor myself. I would recommend removing items underneath the bed as to not absorb the energy of them while you’re resting. I’ve always noticed my sleep improved when I did that. Thank you for the inspo! 🙏🏼
@@TheBudgetguy_K.T if your mattress makes you feel great.... and you watched this entire video... why are you asking? Its clear if"you should bother checking it out".
So it's not against the feng shui? Feng shui says not to sleep on the floor.
I've been sleeping on the floor (on just a tatami mat) for about 8 years, and I no longer have back issues that I had when sleeping on a bed. I'm in my 70s and I think getting up and down from the floor helps, too.
So good to see someone in their 70s doing things like this! So often I hear people, even when they are in their 50s, already saying things like "I'm too old for this". But doing things like this is exactly what keeps the body young!
@@demran17People are what they believe they are. Mindset is everything...
I will be 58 years old this year, got my Futon mattress nearly 3 years ago after watching Cade's original video. The best decision I ever made. Back and neck pain went and have stayed away after the first week.
Also, I find it easier getting up from the floor each morning than I ever did getting out of a standard raised bed.
I also have better sleep and feel totally rested each morning now.
To get an idea of how it would feel, as I waited for my futon to be handmade and delivered, I stuffed 2 quilts into a quilt cover and used that as a temporary measure. It is similar to a futon, but the actual futon is even better.
Give the 2 quilts a try and get an idea of how it feels before you buy your futon.
I hope this helps.
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I sleep on a Thai kapok mattress. I am 60. I can roll it up if needed during the day. I would not wish to sleep in a "normal" bed ever again. I have also just slept on a duvet and also just on the floor. I have also just got rid of my sofa as it was not helping my back.
I been having back problems when I was 19-20. I decided to sleep on futon, and I never went back from it. Futons are so easy to give your room more space and I don’t have any back problems anymore (due to sitting and studying too much for uni).
I'm 72. I have a tatami mat and cotton futon but did have to add a 2" foam pad under that. I'm a side sleeper and it was just too hard on my shoulders. I second the idea that getting up off the floor a lot is great for seniors. Will not go back to a conventional mattress. My back feels great. And look into getting a buckwheat hull pillow too.
There's a channel on UA-cam called Brett's Pillows, or some such. He says millet hull pillows are even better as they don't make so much noise. Worth checking out
Oooff! I am with you my friend. As a side sleeper my arm goes numb from sleeping on my side.
holy shit.
I watched your video about sleeping on the floor 4 years ago and haven’t seen your channel since. my jaw dropped when I realized who you were.
how crazy to see your channel again.
I too have slept on the floor everyday since. thank you!
Better start mewing to fix that jaw 😂
My neck and back had been hurting me for awhile and one night I got out of bed in so much pain and laid on the floor and started feeling relief. So I took some wool left over from insulating our tiny house- pure wool from havelock - and sewed them together into a little mattress and put it on the floor and have been feeling so much better. The first few weeks were a little uncomfortable but now I can’t even imagine sleeping on a mattress as I’m so comfy on the floor. I also hang my wool mattress outside on the clothes line in the sun every couple of days to air it out and dry it as I do notice moisture build up on the bottom. Thanks for spreading the word 🙏🏼 ✌️
From what I've seen people say, you could look into getting a tatami mat (or something similar). It should help with keeping your little mattress from keeping all the moisture on solid ground
I was told in 2004 , after a lightning strike in July of 2000 that damaged a plastic part in my L4L5 disc that I would never walk again without assistance of some type at the very best but once I began to reduce pain medications and exercise and sleep on a sheet of plywood with a two inch thick matt on top of a bamboo roll out floor cover along with cannabis use over heavy pain medication I began to walk bipedal and up right in 9 months . I now walk very well and give the credit to no pain medication, exercise and sleeping on that 2 inch matt on top of an half an inch sheet of plywood with a 1/4 in thick bamboo matt....
I slept on on this style of bed on the floor for over 10 years! It was only recently I decided to try a Western mattress with a bedframe and everything, etc. It was wicked expensive to gather everything I needed. It's real cozy and a nice change of pace but I'm already dreaming of going back to a Japanese-style futon later on. I was so happy with it!
So I watched your first Q&A about 2 or 3 years ago whenever it was posted and that's what convinced me to convert so now I've been sleeping on one directly on the floor 2 1/2 years now and I prefer sleeping on it than anything else
That's amazing! Thanks for all your support
Two years in and still loving the Japanese futon. I can’t see myself going back. And as you mentioned I believe the physical act of getting on and off the floor is a great heal be if it long term and could allow for much better mobility in an older age.
I totally agree! I think it's very important especially as you age. Elderly people in Japan have amazing mobility. I think floor shikibutons, and their emphasis on sitting and being one with the floor, is a large contributor to this.
When I lie down flat at bedtime on my floor bed, it’s the best feeling of my day.
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It really depends on how your spine anatomy looks, for reference you can check out dr stuart mcgills videos where he discusses sleeping on hard matrasses vs soft. For some people sleeping on a hard matras or floor can really be an improvement, but marketing this as a fix for all is actually misleading and can lead to harm.
For reference : ua-cam.com/video/L_B931iK8Mc/v-deo.html (Mcgill is the biggest scientific authority on spinal injury and low back issues)
Thanks for the reference will check it out ...
@@zoeolsson5683 you're welcome!
Sleeping on the floor seems to help anxiety. No idea why. Guess you feel more grounded being close to the floor
HAHA A+
look into 'earthing'. That might answer that question!
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Legit. My nervous system has been shot for months and whenever my body wants to lay down to rest it wants to lay on the floor, not on the bed
6-7h massage, all tensions are transfered into the ground. Softness leaves you soft. It's confy but you keep all the tensions in your body
I love it. I want to do it as well.
Yes, getting up and down would keep us so mobile.
The Japanese seem so at ease in their spaces. And I so adore the simple aesthetic of it very much.
Have been using a tatami for 7 years as a foundation. Still smells like grass, no mould, still in one piece. Used it with a 15 cm futon which has cotton and a natural latex sheet in it. Just replaced it because the middle had the Mariana Trench lengthwise, with a non-toxic hd cold foam (on the tatami). Working out well so far as well.
This video should have millions of views, I clicked on it cuz I've had neck and back problems for years and I take great care of my health so it's very frustrating to be on constant pain and I've heard that sleeping on the floor is great for back pain so hearing all these other things about chemicals in American made mattresses is just the icing on the cake. Thank you for making this video.
I just bought a "top-of-the-line" bed a few months ago and when I wake up, I like to do yoga in the morning, but I'm in so much pain that I need 1-2 hours of rest before I can get going with my exercises. Your video has inspired me to fix this because I was wondering about the best way to sleep on the floor.
Hey i found a futon on tatami mat great for reducing back pain. Hope you get relief soon
I have posted in another comment here that to get a cheap indicator of how it feels, I stuffed 2 quilts into one quilt cover whilst waiting for my futon to be delivered. It's a similar experience although the futon feels much better. Had my futon for nearly 3 years now and wish I had found out about them much sooner than I did.
As someone who grew up in Japan, lived here all my life from 55 years ago, and spent much of that time sleeping on futons, I found it quite ironic that you thought it hard to find space in your small rooms with your futons, and yet never once mentioned one of the prime reasons Japanese created and use futons: to fold up and store in the “oshiire” (futon closet) during the day, to open up the floor space. Traditionally, Japanese homes were quite small, and rooms were multi-use, to make the best use of the limited space.
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Been using a Shikibuton for years. It is marvelous.
I tried sleeping on a floor mattress for a couple of months and couldn't do it anymore. I woke up sore every morning and it actually made my back pain worse. I went back to a traditional mattress and sleep much better
The way you articulate you words and explain you ideas is just so good that catches you for the whole video.
i have been sleeping on a futon on top of a tatami mat since 2018. it just feels right for me. i have always slept on the floor. when i travel and i stay in hotels, i sleep on the floor.
Saw that you’re looking into pillows so wanted to share what I ended up going with as a side sleeper. I got a 6” cube shape natural latex pillow on Amazon and really like it. Same idea as the pillow cube with the square shape fitting the shoulder gap better than a traditional pillow, it’s just not memory foam. You can get your pillow height by laying on the bed on your side and measure the space from the bed to the side of your head. You can also do this standing against a wall.
I also have a shikibuton and ran into the issue of having too flat of a pillow since my shoulder doesn’t sink into the bed like a traditional mattress so just thought I’d share. The one I got was the Turmerry Cuboid Side Sleeper Pillow Long (24x12)/ High 6”/ Soft. Absolutely love your videos! Keep up the good work!
I’ve been sleeping on one of these for a few years now…all natural cotton, eucalyptus and maybe some wool ?, from futon d’or. Love it❣️ My back is much better now, from also sitting cross legged on the floor at a small table/desk, and wellthier overall with other WELLthier lifestyle choices included. I’m turning 60 and I’m in better shape now. 💝
An fyi. I flipped it over once at first, not realizing how much moisture our bodies emit, and got mould growth. Airing it in the sun got rid of it. Now I typically put it out in the sun/air for a few hours every couple weeks…flipping it to get both sides
I’ve been sleeping on the floor for about 7 years, and I made the switch to a tatami mat about 5 years ago. I will never go back to a regular bed! I even sleep on the floor when I stay in hotels.
My posture, energy, joint health, etc have all vastly improved from giving up traditional western mattresses.
I broke my neck and jaw 22 years ago, and I’ve been sleeping on the floor for over a decade now. I used to live in Korea, and I always admired their amazing postures, and when I couldn’t sleep in a bed without feeling all of the little stabilizer muscles in my spine, ribs, and stomach working all night long, I remembered that Koreans slept on the floor. So I got out of bed, and slept right on the floor. Then I got a bed roll and have been sleeping on it ever since.
I was sleeping on just some thin yoga type mat for a while and completely became used to the hardness and flatness. Then I saw pieces of plastic coming off and switched to a foldable cotton mattress filled with kapok. It's comfortable yet flat and not overly soft, and of course natural materials :)
I’m at the one month mark floor sleeping and still ache but it’s getting better. I’m 51 and trying my hardest to adjust. I know I’ll get there. Love my Shikibuton. There’s something so simple and childlike about it 💜
We are thrilled to have found your video. Thank you very much for introducing the Japanese futon to the world.
I’m 68 and sleep on a 3” Japanese futon. Definitely agree on the benefits, especially the daily mobility benefits of getting up and down off floor
I remember watching your videos a few years ago; they inspired me to look into futons and floor sleeping, and mattresses that have certifications for "natural" materials that at least put off less VOCS. I went with Avocado Green Mattress, which I have found doesn't irritate my allergy that flared up when I used a cheap mattress topper in college!
Wow amazing! Yes a lot people report allergies to mattress toppers, it's a sad industry. Stoked to hear you are liking your need mattress and floor sleeping!
hi! I remember your original video on shikibuton when I had got it back in the day and it's nice to see that you still are following sleeping on it. Personally, I was skeptical with having to fold and lay out the mattress every time I sleep and wake up, but now I think it's a great discipline and it frees up so much space.
I've noticed when sleeping in my bed on my thick mattress my back is essentially locked up upon waking. Been sleeping on my harder couch and back feels better. Been looking into futons due to your old video on sleeping on the floor.
You deserve a lot more views, this video is totally amazing, you did great teaching. Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
My back hurts way less and I can roll up my bed and make space for other stuff when I have guests it's great
i have a very small bedroom that I also use as my work space and lounge space, It is so nice to not have a bedframe occupy the little space I do have since this type of bed is v flexible with how we use spaces.
My pre-roll ad for t his video was for the Smart Number mattress. Oh, sweet irony.
Thank you for this comprehensive account on the subject. My son, now 42, has suffered back problems practically all his adult life. He has a bulging disc and recently suggested a tatami mattress might help. I slept on one for about seven months when I lived in Japan and took to them immediately. I'm trying to find the authentic article here in the UK. Seems I'm gonna need to get the mat too
I just want to add to the conversation and play devil’s advocate. Having a mattress laying on a hard, cold floor can lead to mold growth!! This happened to me. Sometimes you need airflow under that mattress. He covers this toward the end of the video. Much love. Take care.
i used to sleep on the floor as a kid/teenager on foam my grandfather had from his days working as on upholstery for cars. i definitely have way more problems now with my current bed than i would while sleeping on the floor. I really want the setup you have but i just dont have the money for it. I have no problem going back to sleeping on the floor although i bet people who come over will find it funny at first until they see the benefits. Im all for changing things that are "normal" in a culture for no reason. almost everything we are sold day to day isnt really "for our benefit." So many aspects of life to learn about and im glad i found this video.
i sleep on a mattress on a slatted frame on the ground, and thought about getting a Futon, but read you are supposed to let it "air out" every day, Tatami mats or not, and thats why i couldn't bring myself to buy a Futon.
Saw videos where people dragged it on the balcony and whatnot, and that seems 2 much hassle for me.
I don't air mine out. My house is poorly insulated and my bedroom is the coldest room in the house. I have s wiol rug, then tatami mat, with a 2" foam pad and a covered futon on that. When it got really cold, I put a thick wool blanket on top of the futon. When I frst started doing this, I would fold it up and remake it every night.
Just buy a firm topper over a futon, it will provide better pressure relief and you don’t have to air it out.
I sleep on a tatami with a shikibuton. I love it. First couple weeks my back had to adjust to it.
This is the first I have heard of this. Recently learning Japanese I feel like this might be something I look into for the future !!!! Hopefully there are no huge price jumps because of new found demand by then hahaha cheers for sharing Cheers!!!!!
Lawsuits can be filed by a person or group of people but it doesn't necessarily mean the other party is automatically guilty. As for the Tempur-Pedic lawsuit mentioned at 3:57, a federal judge denied the motion for reconsideration and class certification in 2017. Great video though!
This is so interesting…..😮My entire adult life I have slept on futon mattress on hardwood floor ……mainly because I live in studios .
@CadePriorFilms Bro, according to your FAQ Document you are using 100% polyester filling pillows
Love this video thank you so much for taking the time to create it!!! Truly ❤❤❤
lol it’s my second time watching it!
This is an interesting topic to me and I do have some experience sleeping on the floor. In high school I slept on a futon directly on the floor exclusively and I remember being in a LOT of pain from it. I actually started sleeping with a bolster for my knees because of it, which did help a bit. I then slept on a standard twin mattress directly on the floor until I moved in with my partner at 22. We got a nice tempur pedic and I IMMEDIATELY felt no more back pain and felt like I got a real night’s sleep; he felt the same. I am not saying you’re wrong, just that my personal experience has been the opposite.
In regards to the chemicals, I think it’s a good idea to limit your exposure for sure. However, everything we are in contact with (especially in the US) has something that probably causes cancer if we’re being honest. Our food, clothes, the air we breathe, etc. is all polluting us daily and there’s nothing we can do about it. Again, I am not disagreeing just being more realistic.
I work with people who are in pain every day (LMT) and I can tell you there is so much that contributes to it. Yes, we are in bed a considerable amount of our lives so it definitely plays a huge role. But even the positions we sleep in makes a difference, regardless of how firm the mattress is. Just something to think about
In Iran, we have similar mattresses they look identical to futons but they are filled up with wool instead of cotton.
We like the japanese have closets specifically for storing our matresses, it's the first thing you do after waking up, folding and storing the bed in the bed closet.
This would also save your space problem.
Great video Cade! You always make fantastic and informative videos.
Thank you so much!
The aesthetics of you sleeping on a futon in Japanese is beautiful. When you sleep on your futon at home, however, your bedroom looks like a poor college student. It's not easy to make a futon in a bedroom look good and inviting.
@@yt_n-c0de-r My comment is more of a damnation on cheap housing, made with drywall and wall-to-wall polyester carpeting. A futon on the floor in these cookie-cutter spaces looks low rent. There's a way in the West to use a futon beautifully but few people know how to do so. A great example is to Google search: Donald Judd 101 Spring Street
Got one because of you, not going back:)
what advantages do the tatami mats bring? i built myself a bed with the normal wooden slatted frame, close enough so it feels like a solid surface. but the main thing i wanted to achieve with this is that it is aired out automatically so i dont have to carry it outside every week
The tatami mats are the traditional "thing" to put the shikibutons on. They are meant to allow the futon to breath and prevent mold and moisture. So if you're worried about mold, I would recommend them. although you can def do without one, just having to be more mindful about airing it out in the sun and ensuring it's moisture free.
Do not buy amazon tatami mats, they are a scam. Tatami mats are suppose to be thick, and there's a specific way in which they are made for them to work properly.
The ones in my description are the ones I use and are authentic from Japan, tatami mats. Basically just look for thick, handmade ones that are authentic.
I've been sleeping on the same futon mattresses from my childhood. They are filled with leftover offcuts of string, denim, foam egg crate material, and some wood chips. it has been the most comfortable sleep I have ever gotten. It's hard to sleep on anything else.
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I'm 26 now. So this futon mattress is from like 2003 or so.
Yea dude, I built a tatami platform in my bedroom (lots of storage underneath, and got a thin futon mattress 3 years ago. My back has never been better, and the natural smell of the tatami is amazing.
I also agree that there is probably a lot of benefit from being on the floor itself. Unfortunately, there are also centipedes and mice that crawl around on the floor, haha.
I got a basic 12" high wood platform bedframe from amazon and put a tatami mat and japanese style futon on top.
Great video Cade. I am ordering the shikibuton right now. Can you share links to your comforter and blanket if you remember? I would assume they are organic cotton. I am having trouble finding good organic options for these online (that I like).
Gonna start tomorrow night with just some blankets underneath me for a little comfort and hopefully it works well
Good luck! If that's too firm, (keep in mind it takes some time to adjust) give the shikibuton a try. It's the perfect amount of cushion (surprisingly soft) but still very firm
@CadePriorFilms which ones do you recommend in the description?
If you find a proper futon expensive, buy a massive 4-season wool blanket and fold it double. I have done this with 2 different Lits Jumeaux (220x240 cm) 4-seazon blankets, for under 200 euro's each, the thinest futon is around 4 cm, standard is around 7 cm I believe, and folded doudble these wool blankets are between 4 - 7 cm.
I ain't sleeping where spiders, centipedes, silverfish and got knows what else can crawl into my bed.
More snacks for the rest of us 😋
He literally showed an elevated version of the futon on the floor thing at the end. And isn't it obvious that the floor or bed doesn't matter but the mattress does?
Move your bed indoors..
Those insects can still get to u lol
enjoy your back problems :D
Great video. When I lived in San Francisco, I had two large walk in closets. In one closet I had a futon mattress that fit in the closet perfectly and I slept like that and had great ...some of the best sleep I have had. Esp if I wanted a blackout sleep I could close the doors. When I have slept in super cushy beds it takes me a long time to fall asleep....plus evening being on what I have not is raised bed but futon mattress but low and also find it is much easier to do any exercises in bed. In a soft bed it is much hard if you are always sinking like a ship LOL. Even as a kid I would often sleep on the floor and my Mom would fuss asking why when I have my own bed. As an athlete as a kid and into the teens I felt so much better actually sleeping on the floor, mind you this was carpet no just hardwood and would put blankets down.
Damn has it been 4 years already? I bought mine just a few months before your 1 year video.
I had a very similar, if not identical, alarm clock to yours. Just wanted to point out that it had the highest and most extensive EMF levels I've ever measured in any home device.
bought myself Tatamis and an Futon, cant wait for its arrival!
Amazing video, Cade! Thanks for sharing!
Cheers from Brazil!
Solid video man, Great info, really appreciate it!
The soaring heart cotton + wool shikibuton is amazing and super high end :) thanks for the recommendation to switch to one!!
I slept on a shikibuton for years in college and I miss it a lot. I slept incredibly well as a stomach sleeper, however I can confirm gents that women in the west will think you are a big weirdo for sleeping on the floor. The stigma is real.
♥♥♥ Dude, you are so right! 20 years ago I bought a new bed frame and mattress that made me very sick for a year and nearly fkn killed me! At age 67, I am floor sleeping and out of bed hell. Yes... tatami + thin futon is great. I currently sleep on a persian rug ( on hard wood floor ) and kinda like that.
I sleep on the floor because I can’t afford a bed sadly. Living on the streets with my dog. We usually just use a card board box or whatever
Lots of jobs available.
I want to respond to this, but do not know how.
@@ferrisd7566many homeless people suffer from mental health issues and post-trauma, which can make applying for, and maintaining, employment, very challenging. Please do not judge.
Uh, sure. You're homeless and watching UA-cam.
@@rand8530 Yeah, so what mf. I spend my days in the library watching UA-cam and TikTok and collect money at night.
I've been sleeping on the floor for 8 months - tatami + genuine shikibuton from Japan. Sadly it has not worked for me. I didn't have back issues prior but my goodness, some mornings I feel like I can't get up. My back and hips ache so much. I only weigh 57kgs. I thought my body would adjust but it just seems to get worse. I've ordered a bed and I cannot wait for its arrival.
I sleep with my mattress on the floor and I do love it. And I do have a Japanese twin XL futon but it’s too short to handle my back so I’m gonna be picking up a 6 inch twin XL foldable memory foam to go on top of the Japanese twin futon so I can have my definitive floor bed.
Cade, love your videos. I have a question…..I looked up the shikibuton you have and it says it is soft, but you recommend a firm mattress. I am looking for a firm mattress, any suggestions?
I love the idea of tatami mats + futons, but where i live it is so moist that it will mold in no time so on the floor is really a no go
I bought my first Shikibuton 12 years ago for all the reasons you did. My kids all got theirs shortly after. Anyone who has slept on our beds love them and say they wake up less stiff or sore than in western beds. I hate sleeping in hotels 😒
Yeah I dread hotel beds too now since going futon
There is a growing market for traditional materials in Netherlands especially when it comes to beds and sheets, just wool and fine-woven cotton are better than polyester. I really hope to make a difference by having worked in a furniture shop. The more natural the better should be the mindset, not maximising profit of the chemical industry.🤗 As a child I slept on the floor and now due to my disability I have to use a lifted bed sadly. I feel ashamed. The futons are within my budget also ! Not really more expensive than westernized beds.
I slept on the concrete during the recent Houston power outage I slept few hours but felt more rested than the last 6 years of sleeping on my mattress.
I’m going to Japan and staying in a traditional home at the end of the year, I hope it’s comfy! I have always found firm mattresses extremely uncomfortable and I’ll wake up all though the night. I have a memory foam mattress and I sleep 9-10 hours without waking up 😆
The ones on Amazon have polyurethaned fill, can you recommend the best natural futon and link?
In india majority of people sleep on floor on something like futon, made of cotton. Because whole family lives in small place and not practical to have beds for everyone. During dat time they get rolled up and get stacked in one corner.
I did that when I had my 1st apartment. Here in America. Some people that invited themselves in my place made fun of me.
I’ve sLeeped on floor for a long time now, i have no couch, t.v. Or easychair. Or kitchen table. I real don’t give a fk what other people say. Its your life, I suggest you live it any way the hell you want to!
@@outlaw565I needed to really hear this ! I agree
Love your videos, the content you make is excellent. Keep it up
Hi, I recently had to throw out my own mattress which was shedding fiber glass. I'm really interested in purchasing a futon, but as a side sleeper I'm concerned about discomfort (particularly my hips). In your experience, would you say that the typical futon is a good choice for side sleepers? If it helps, I'm 5 foot 7 and weight roughly 125 pounds.
Aw I'm sorry. I've heard of issues with fiberglass getting into peoples skin.
I would recommend checking out a 5 inch Shikibuton. That's going to give you little more cushion to sleep on your side. But even with 3 inches, it's doable. I sometimes sleep on my side and mine is 3 inches. Also know that your sleeping style may change once you purchase these. You may be gravitating to sleeping on your side due to the lack of support in your bed.
Long story short, look for a thicker Shikibuton. You will still get the correct firmness you need due to the material they are made out of. Check out my description for the futon I have, you can select your thickness size there.
@@CadePriorFilms Thank you so much for the valuable info man. I've been trying to make a choice but with no testimonials from westerners outside of a few people on reddit I've had major analysis paralysis. I hope your channel continues to grow, you seem like a genuine guy who just wants to help people. Have a good one ✌
@@mr.whatitaint6143 Hi, if you're interested in another opinion from another side sleeper. When I first started sleeping on a thin mattress on the floor I naturally ended up sleeping on my back more often. Then as my body gradually adjusted over several months, I shifted back to sleeping on the side. I don't think it's an issue as long as you allow your body to get used to the new sensation of the harder surface and let yourself transition slowly. Your body will build up the muscles to be able to hold itself properly and eventually sleeping on your side will be comfortable even on the floor, and I'm only on 2 inches, so it's definitely doable.
@@serisaurusrex I see, thank you for your insight! I feel much more certain in my decision now. Have a good one 😄
@@mr.whatitaint6143side sleeper here! I was sleeping on a 3in futon for over two years and it was perfect for me. Been moving around a bit lately, but I can’t wait to get a futon back when I settle down!
Keep it up bro, good job
Very helpful video as usual. Thanks for the update 😊
Thanks so much!
Second night of floor sleeping. Threw out my bed yesterday. Got around four hours of sleep (again), but despite that I actually feel pretty darn good, even though I normally need at least six hours to function properly.
slept on one for years. i sleep great and my back feels excellent.
What are the pillows and other beddings shown in this video?
Another great video Cade! Thank you! 😊
Thanks for your support!
Is the sex on the futon comfortable? Asking considering getting one but I didn’t find that question anywhere in the FAQ
Haha I forgot that one, just updated the FAQ with my answer. Hope it helps
Hi cade, Thanks for the great info. I am wondering if these are mattress good option for a newborn or is there anything they mentioned about the age of the person to sleep on these beds?
I had my box spring break one year and I had to put my mattress on the ground for a few months. The best sleep I had was near or on the ground. I now have a bed frame that is pretty tall and I plan to get rid of it. Maybe even buying this kind of mattress
I'm shocked that the government is allowing this video to be aired on UA-cam! But I'm glad that this helpful information is getting out there.
Wtf
Clear informative video. Thanks for the FAQ’s.
I HAVE A GREEN ONE! GREAT VIDEO KIMOSABE!
The lifted one looks pretty cool. I'm looking at them online and I'm remembering how much beds cost. I mean... it's good to spend proper money on a quality bed I suppose. Like a car.
I've bought one abo it a year ago now, several months later I gave it to my boyfriend and I started just sleeping on a matt and rug on my wood floor 😅😇
wouldn't ditching the bed frame save space, since you can just roll up the shikibuton during the day / hang it up to dry, and set the tatamis against a wall to dry also. essentially putting the bed away for the day
I bought a 3 inch 3 months ago, and was having trouble with it. I'm a side sleeper. After a month, I ended up putting it on top of the mattress.
Any suggestions for side sleepers? Maybe I should try a 6 inch?
I was wondering how it is for side sleepers 😞
Imagine all the crawly critters that would use you as a mattress, while you snooze away on your futon. No way, Jose! I’ll stick to my hammock! 😂
I do think that’s the main reason beds developed. But in Japan mould is a huge issue due to the humidity so it’s important you can actually wash the whole “bed” so to speak, or at least hang it to beat the dust. So in that sense futons are more hygienic. But definitely critters are the reason beds were developed. So Japan had to make a choice. Also their use of space , futons are folded up and put away so you can use the space for something else.