@@bruh-vp1fpstill makes no sense. Varsho playing center should help not hurt him. Even tho I think he’ll be lucky to be a 90 wrc bat but center defense is so important
This and Rafaela is almost rage bait. Varsho won the Gold Glove FOR CF, not LF, and had the highest defensive ratings out of any outfielder and he’s trying to say he’s not as good as people think defensively lol
Me too. I expected around ten, and literally thought I'd missed him when he hadn't been called by top three. Julio is Julio, but he was hurt and had an inconsistent year.
@@aml_5797It’s not a “Ranking the Best CFers from 2024” it’s ranking them going forward. Julio’s still the most talented CF in the entire league and in his “hurt and inconsistent year” was 2nd among all CFers in WAR and 96th percentile defensively last year. If you think he’s 10th, you’re not a Mariners fan
You were doing so well with the Blue Jays rankings, Varsho being a League average hitter, and THE BEST defensive player in baseball (using just OAA is a problem, you have to use DRS: 34 in CF over the last two years, and FRV:18 in CF over the last two years as well, to get an appropriate picture, plus you know the eye test). A 5 WAR player being at 23 is just absurd.
As maybe the biggest Ceddanne Rafaela fan there is, I am confident (and really hoping!) he will prove you wrong next year. He reminds me of a Jackie Bradley with a bat, and his hitting numbers were significantly better with runners on base so he did well in the most important situations. Love his versatility and impact!
This is going to be one of his worst takes of the year. He was being pulled all around the diamond and still excelled in his rookie year. But think if he can spend 90% of the time in CF next season the guy might crack the top 10 next year.
My biggest thing is how you punish some players for injuries or not staying healthy, but placing Mike Trout the high for only 29 games is crazy especially with you underrating someone at 23 who may have played a different outfield spot. Yet when you had to move O Cruz and mookie betts to a different position like Varsho you gave those two a lot higher positions
I know that Rafaela needs to cut down on his cave percentage😊, however the gifts that he has as a defensive outfielder😊 are superb😊😊😊 at times he was a brilliant situation. I'm sure he will work very hard on his new situation and propel to the top of your list next season my fingers are crossed
4:14 There is a talented player in there with Rafaela if he can get the consistency to a good point. At this point, he’s probably a Jackie Bradley Jr with a higher ceiling.
Mark He had 5OAA at CF in 2 months of the season cuz Kevin Kiermeier was the CF until the deadline and the Varsho got hurt in September How about you actually do some good research
Thank God you didn’t overrate Rafaela. Put up a very similar season to Volpe’s rookie year and Red Sox fans thought it was the second coming of Mike Trout
@@GiraffeNeckMarcbro Siri literally got benched for lack of effort a couple times this past season and can’t get on base for crap and if he doesn’t hit a bomb and take 27 minutes to celebrate abt it before he touches first base then he probably struck out and went right back to where his cheeks belong on that bench
Imagine if yelich played Lf for the brewers it would be yelich probably top 5 then chourio in right i would put him top three the mitchell at 11 the brewers outfield is stacked
varsho at 23 is just absurd you’ve done a good job compared to previous years thus far but jeez this one was rough. Siri over varsho is just a ridiculous take 😂
Varsho at #23 is the worst take you have ever had. League average hitting with defense that definitely still qualifies as elite in CF makes him bare minimum top 15
Siri at 21? Dude is awful. 76OPS+, strikes out a shitload, and he seems to be a toxic team mate. This is some weird rankings. Tons of bad guys in the top 25. JRod at 1? Yikes. Robert at 7!!!!!
This is the worst list I’ve ever seen Marc. You’ve got to do better than this. How can u justify putting varsho below half of this list. Blaming his league average hitting , then ranking several worse hitters above him. All of which are far worse defenders than him.
i liked seeing grisham out there, he had some crazy clutch hits/home runs. the one agaisnt glasnow, the 2 out 2 strike top of 9th double off center field wall in fenway to win the game (my fav game of the season) was amazing
You really had a guy at 15 with a 1.7 war and 5 OAA in way more innings in the position but that guy with a 5 war and same OAA in less innings at 23, usually the rankings are good but I have no idea how u justified that one
Yo I’ll take a free Rafaela jersey, trust me he’s a gold glove caliber player and just needs to get his walk rate up. Trust me he’s going to have a good season next year👍
Marc, you use to put player’s previous ranking in their different position if they’re playing a new one, I would love to see this come back. It’s going to be weird seeing Aaron Judge ranked the top RF with a previous ranking of “ - -“ when it could just say “ #1 (CF)”
how can someone who appears so knowledgeable about baseball call a salary dump an "absolute fleece job." on the open market bellinger would not touch 20m a year and the yankees are paying him 25m this year AFTER including the money the cubs sent. even if the cubs got literally nothing in return it's not a fleece job.
If PCA can find his groove at the plate, I think that we may see him become a massive star in baseball. I fully think that he'll end up being a dark horse MVP candidate in 25
I was/kind of am an Angels fan who stopped watching MLB because of the 2020 postponement. But I’ll never not be a Mike Trout fan. Want only the best for that dude, forever. Unfortunately he’s on the angels. Anyway I just wanted to say I really appreciate the respect of putting him at #2. I’m just starting to catch up with guys across the league in preparation to start watching again next year and I was just hoping Trout would still be top 10.
Elite defense, great plate discipline, good bat to ball skills and oh yeah perhaps one of the most clutch players in the league. Don’t believe me, look at his stats in clutch situations. Dude is a freak and Marc is right
If there is a position change I think it is worth making the “last year” ranking being notated with there being a “(position)” being made cuz it paints a better picture
Time for Center Field!! Some big rises but the… Biggest Rise: Brenton Doyle, 27 to 10 (17 spots) and Biggest Drop: Jung Hoo Lee, 11 to 20 (9 spots) AND TJ Friedl, 10 to 19 (9 spots)
Varhso only has 5 OAA compared to the 11 that he had in left field because he played alot more in left due to Kiermaier being with the team and then Varsho getting hurt. He is an elite center fielder and if played a full year in center he would have put up 10-15 OAA atleast at the position
Man 23!! CMON, also you are doing everyone a disservice who is trying to give actual opinions on the players as fairly as possible. U straight up saying I'm a Mets fan I'm bias. U lose all credibility. Siri should be like 30th on this list.
And when Siri hits a ding dong outta the yard he takes like 47 minutes and then some to round 1st base bc he is celebrating abt it which is fun to watch but annoying when “Mets Bias” plays a role in your rankings as they always do 😤
Jackson Merrill at Number 3 is crazy to me although it shouldn’t be. Part of me is afraid that he’ll have a sophomore slump kinda like Corbin Carroll did last season. Him not walking and being borderline terrible against lefties is concerning to me. Hopefully he makes it up through mashing righties and getting better defensively
Jacob Young is such a good player. The only thing he is really missing is power. Give him a couple of years and he could be a beautiful OBP player with 40 SB and a very high OAA
Rangers fan, Carter is a big ? For me. He will always be a favorite, but sometimes guys come up and play well and lose it, we dont know what a carter season looks like. All time rangers great whether his career hits or misses, he was the savior of the world series team.
I think Mullins should be top 15. I trust him way more than PCA, McCarthy, and Thomas. Thomas is probably a better player but if we’re talking in Center I think Cedric is more valuable
Man, 5.0 WAR in 23rd place? That's brutal
Its because most of that was from when he was a corner outfielder and not center.
Mark prefers Jose Siri and the .255 on-base 😂
I thought Varsho was more of a base stealer for some reason. He's a great athlete.
@@bruh-vp1fpstill makes no sense. Varsho playing center should help not hurt him. Even tho I think he’ll be lucky to be a 90 wrc bat but center defense is so important
This and Rafaela is almost rage bait. Varsho won the Gold Glove FOR CF, not LF, and had the highest defensive ratings out of any outfielder and he’s trying to say he’s not as good as people think defensively lol
bro discovered OAA for this years ranking and decided to put 100% of his analysis into 2024 OAA 💀
I swear!!
@@multivisionmath1450 he's been doing that for years. Dude said arraez was bad at 2B last year even tho he had a positive DRS
@@stevenhempel2311Arraez has been a negative defender his entire career
@@stevenhempel2311 arraez is horrible defensively
@@multivisionmath1450 had a positive DRS and UZR up til 24 but ok
This is the worst one yet 5.0 war at 23 is criminal
Siri at 21 is some diabolical bias
Varsho at 23 should actually be a crime like what?
He overrated
@@fuego6565he’s a 5 win player, and he put him at 23. That would make him underrated, not overrated, at least in this video.
@@andrewarnold9751 he can barely hit my friend , he’s a nice bench piece
@@fuego6565 He is literally a League average hitter (98 OPS+)
5.0 war at 23 is criminal
Absolutely absurd to put Varsho at 23
This is your worst yet. The Rafaela and Varsho hate is nuts. There’s not a manager in MLB who would choose Friedl over those guys - except Francona
I'm a Mariners fan but JROD at 1 is crazy
Your not a mariners fan your just a chill guy
Me too. I expected around ten, and literally thought I'd missed him when he hadn't been called by top three. Julio is Julio, but he was hurt and had an inconsistent year.
@@aml_5797It’s not a “Ranking the Best CFers from 2024” it’s ranking them going forward. Julio’s still the most talented CF in the entire league and in his “hurt and inconsistent year” was 2nd among all CFers in WAR and 96th percentile defensively last year. If you think he’s 10th, you’re not a Mariners fan
Actually very much a Mariners fan. No one hates on their own team and players for no reason like we do.
@@TheShakaBeast That's just how we Mariners fans are. We just want the suffering to stop. One day guys, one day.
Siri over Varsho💀
And that’s why David Wright will come out of retirement and play the best centerfield anyone has ever seen
I’m a Mets fan and I look forward to these comments the most 😂
unfunny
@josthechair4 unfunny🤓
@@ReaganAllen-t4lhonestly If theyre creative like this there actually pretty funny😂
I love it, and that is why the Mets will win the World Series in 2025! 🏆
You were doing so well with the Blue Jays rankings, Varsho being a League average hitter, and THE BEST defensive player in baseball (using just OAA is a problem, you have to use DRS: 34 in CF over the last two years, and FRV:18 in CF over the last two years as well, to get an appropriate picture, plus you know the eye test). A 5 WAR player being at 23 is just absurd.
The Jays got fleeced in that deal, Varsho is just terrible at the plate.
@@illusionistphantomhe’s okay
@@illusionistphantom That is literally factually incorrect, he is a League average hitter.
@illusionistphantom is league average terrible brother?😂
@@illusionistphantom doesn't matter when you're the best outfeilder in baseball.. plat glove makes up for it
As maybe the biggest Ceddanne Rafaela fan there is, I am confident (and really hoping!) he will prove you wrong next year. He reminds me of a Jackie Bradley with a bat, and his hitting numbers were significantly better with runners on base so he did well in the most important situations. Love his versatility and impact!
This is going to be one of his worst takes of the year. He was being pulled all around the diamond and still excelled in his rookie year. But think if he can spend 90% of the time in CF next season the guy might crack the top 10 next year.
I'll take Varsho over at least 8 players you put ahead of him
The amount of times that you refer to someone as a "little player" is wild. 80% of these dudes would be the biggest dude in any room they're in.
He doesn’t mean his size literally he’s referring to the fact he isn’t a big (star) player yet whose name isn’t that well known
@@willysupe8401 bruh
Take a shot every time Marc says, “criminally underrated,” or “nice little player.”
Lmfao yes
My biggest thing is how you punish some players for injuries or not staying healthy, but placing Mike Trout the high for only 29 games is crazy especially with you underrating someone at 23 who may have played a different outfield spot. Yet when you had to move O Cruz and mookie betts to a different position like Varsho you gave those two a lot higher positions
5 war at 23 Marc come on man
If have him much higher then that but he’s not worth T10
daulton varsho having more war than the number 1 player and being at 23 is crazy
Sometimes war lies
Or maybe you’re wrong 🤷♂️
@@GiraffeNeckMarcsometimes it doesn’t
He should at least be top 15
I agree war lies sometimes and im a jays fan
Raffaela gonna have a breakout year. Guaranteed and I’ll take the jersey
Me as well lol
Agreed. His glove is very good and he has to be a little more disciplined at the plate. Can easily be top 10 at the end of the year
There’s no way you have Jose Siri above Varsho. That’s just plain stupidity
I’ll take Siri over varsho any day , varsho is a defensive sub you want to bring in the 9th
Siri is just a speedster with no plate discipline at all. He's pretty good defensively, but he's not a great player or even good
“And that’s why Jose Siri will win the next 10 mvps.”
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I know that Rafaela needs to cut down on his cave percentage😊, however the gifts that he has as a defensive outfielder😊 are superb😊😊😊 at times he was a brilliant situation. I'm sure he will work very hard on his new situation and propel to the top of your list next season my fingers are crossed
4:14 There is a talented player in there with Rafaela if he can get the consistency to a good point. At this point, he’s probably a Jackie Bradley Jr with a higher ceiling.
How you have Trout and Julio over Merrill is insane LMFAOO
Mark He had 5OAA at CF in 2 months of the season cuz Kevin Kiermeier was the CF until the deadline and the Varsho got hurt in September How about you actually do some good research
He played most of the year in CF, really. Won the GG there. Mark is just neglecting all the other defensive metrics.
If Cedanne Rafaela has a good year I expect a jersey from Marc at my doorstep
same here
And that’s why jacob degrom will come back and switch to center field and be the best center fielder ever
Mets World Series Champs EVWRY YEAR!!!!
There will probably be some regression but putting a 5 war player at 23 is criminal
Thank God you didn’t overrate Rafaela. Put up a very similar season to Volpe’s rookie year and Red Sox fans thought it was the second coming of Mike Trout
Blake Perkins should’ve been included
Great job as always
Siri over Varsho or Rafaele is pure Mets bias.
Siri is literally a better CF defensively and was similar offensively
@ Varsho and Rafaele both had higher WAR and are younger-indeed, Rafaele is much younger.
@@GiraffeNeckMarcyou’re rankings are inconsistent
@@GiraffeNeckMarcbro Siri literally got benched for lack of effort a couple times this past season and can’t get on base for crap and if he doesn’t hit a bomb and take 27 minutes to celebrate abt it before he touches first base then he probably struck out and went right back to where his cheeks belong on that bench
Imagine if yelich played Lf for the brewers it would be yelich probably top 5 then chourio in right i would put him top three the mitchell at 11 the brewers outfield is stacked
Merrill is better than JRod bc he was able to be defense and offense throughout the entire year!!!!
Looking forward to that Rafaela jersey
😳 Varsho 23rd
I’m hoping that Rafaela does break out offensively. He has the skills, needs to be disciplined at the plate more
Jrod at 1 has to be the funniest thing ive seen not even top 5
I mean, he is though. It’s not a strong position right now. Trout and Buxton can’t stay healthy. Merrill was just a rookie.
I love Mike trout too but we have to bump him down a few places until he puts up a quality season like 40 games is not enough
varsho at 23 is just absurd you’ve done a good job compared to previous years thus far but jeez this one was rough. Siri over varsho is just a ridiculous take 😂
Varsho at #23 is the worst take you have ever had. League average hitting with defense that definitely still qualifies as elite in CF makes him bare minimum top 15
Siri at 21? Dude is awful. 76OPS+, strikes out a shitload, and he seems to be a toxic team mate. This is some weird rankings. Tons of bad guys in the top 25. JRod at 1? Yikes. Robert at 7!!!!!
Happy April Fool’s Day! Assuming the real one comes out tomorrow?
is Jackson Chourio and Christian Yelich both going to be on the right field vid or just Chourio and Yelich at DH?
Yea I'm just as confused as you
Yeah best outfield in baseball if yelich played left
But sal won the gold glove
WINTER BREAK IS HERE!!!
Cenddane Rafaela is gonna pop off this year! He’s still a rookie so next year he will help win a word series. Just me my money
Varsho with a 5.0 war in 23 is horrible. Need to take DRS into account here
Love the Parker Meadows raking
This is the worst list I’ve ever seen Marc. You’ve got to do better than this. How can u justify putting varsho below half of this list. Blaming his league average hitting , then ranking several worse hitters above him. All of which are far worse defenders than him.
Varsho should at least be in the top 20 also no way jacob young is better
This has to be one of the hardest videos in which to account for avalability vs injury proneness, with trout, robert and buxton
i liked seeing grisham out there, he had some crazy clutch hits/home runs. the one agaisnt glasnow, the 2 out 2 strike top of 9th double off center field wall in fenway to win the game (my fav game of the season) was amazing
Bro what is this list 😭😭
Deluca over rafaela is wild man
20:31 what 😅😳
11:01, who the hell else would be the cubs opening day starter!? pete is a dog
Exactly he is HIM
You put tucker at DH
Suzuki should DH
You really had a guy at 15 with a 1.7 war and 5 OAA in way more innings in the position but that guy with a 5 war and same OAA in less innings at 23, usually the rankings are good but I have no idea how u justified that one
Yo I’ll take a free Rafaela jersey, trust me he’s a gold glove caliber player and just needs to get his walk rate up. Trust me he’s going to have a good season next year👍
Can’t wait for that Rafaela jersey
Marc, you use to put player’s previous ranking in their different position if they’re playing a new one, I would love to see this come back. It’s going to be weird seeing Aaron Judge ranked the top RF with a previous ranking of “ - -“ when it could just say “ #1 (CF)”
4:21 don't promise jerseys now. I'll take that in a heartbeat😂
how can someone who appears so knowledgeable about baseball call a salary dump an "absolute fleece job." on the open market bellinger would not touch 20m a year and the yankees are paying him 25m this year AFTER including the money the cubs sent. even if the cubs got literally nothing in return it's not a fleece job.
The marlins called up this player Javier Sanoja. This player year and I think he did pretty well. 0:57
people will always have recency bias against trout but like if that dude plays a full season like it’s dang near guaranteed for him to be top 5 in mvp
If PCA can find his groove at the plate, I think that we may see him become a massive star in baseball. I fully think that he'll end up being a dark horse MVP candidate in 25
I was/kind of am an Angels fan who stopped watching MLB because of the 2020 postponement. But I’ll never not be a Mike Trout fan. Want only the best for that dude, forever. Unfortunately he’s on the angels. Anyway I just wanted to say I really appreciate the respect of putting him at #2. I’m just starting to catch up with guys across the league in preparation to start watching again next year and I was just hoping Trout would still be top 10.
Just sat down w a pork chop, perfect timing as always Marc
Parker Meadows at 9 💀
Elite defense, great plate discipline, good bat to ball skills and oh yeah perhaps one of the most clutch players in the league. Don’t believe me, look at his stats in clutch situations. Dude is a freak and Marc is right
I'm curious, if Roman Anthony was on any of your CFer list where would you rank him?
I’ll take the Rafaela jersey when he’s got a 105ops+ with elite speed and CF defence.
If there is a position change I think it is worth making the “last year” ranking being notated with there being a “(position)” being made cuz it paints a better picture
That Rafaela ranking blows, the walk rate is a legit concern but 26th makes no sense.
82 OPS+
@@GiraffeNeckMarcBut Siri’s 76+ OPS is ok
@@HP0134 and 100 the year before, with elite defense
@@GiraffeNeckMarc bruh
Siri either hits a bomb or sent right back to his seat to sit his cheeks right down
marc, i will be waiting on my cedanne rafaela jersey, the kids a baller and the sky is the limit for this kid
As a Mariners fan, I am shocked to see Julio Rodriguez in your top ten. He regresses every year.
Ceddanne is way too low at 26. Hes top 20 at least
Need Belli to take full advantage of the short porch in RF so badly
Completely agree on varsho , he’s average at best . Make sense at 23
I’ll be ready and eager to get that jersey, Marc. Ready and eager. Rafaela will exceed those numbers from this year
You made Brice Turang the 19th best second baseman and still decided to continue with the rankings.
Time for Center Field!! Some big rises but the…
Biggest Rise: Brenton Doyle, 27 to 10 (17 spots) and
Biggest Drop: Jung Hoo Lee, 11 to 20 (9 spots) AND TJ Friedl, 10 to 19 (9 spots)
Cedanne made a big adjustment at the end of his season, when he gets better (not make him elite but a good player) I will take that jersey
Great content mark, keep up the good work!
Varhso only has 5 OAA compared to the 11 that he had in left field because he played alot more in left due to Kiermaier being with the team and then Varsho getting hurt. He is an elite center fielder and if played a full year in center he would have put up 10-15 OAA atleast at the position
You know you are bottom of the ranking list when a portion of your highlight clip is occupied by a dog howling
I call the jersey if Rafaela goes off
Man 23!! CMON, also you are doing everyone a disservice who is trying to give actual opinions on the players as fairly as possible. U straight up saying I'm a Mets fan I'm bias. U lose all credibility. Siri should be like 30th on this list.
And when Siri hits a ding dong outta the yard he takes like 47 minutes and then some to round 1st base bc he is celebrating abt it which is fun to watch but annoying when “Mets Bias” plays a role in your rankings as they always do 😤
@OwenLubbers-gv8ws i agree. Be fair if your gonna do these rankings. He loses credibility when he just say is Mets bias and get over it.
in what world is TJ Friedl better thn Daulton Varsho?
Jackson Merrill at Number 3 is crazy to me although it shouldn’t be. Part of me is afraid that he’ll have a sophomore slump kinda like Corbin Carroll did last season. Him not walking and being borderline terrible against lefties is concerning to me. Hopefully he makes it up through mashing righties and getting better defensively
Jacob Young is such a good player. The only thing he is really missing is power. Give him a couple of years and he could be a beautiful OBP player with 40 SB and a very high OAA
Baseball needs to hurry up and get here missing it!!
React to last years 12 days after this years 12 day?
And that’s why the met will win the World Series
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Ranking Evan Carter above Tommy Edman is crazy
Here within 15 love this series
I know you use OAA man but Dalton Varsho having a 5.0 war season puts him in the top 15 AT LEAST. What are we doing here Marc?
OAA is not the end all be all. Use more stats Jesus
as a Red Sox fan its annoyed me how much sox fans have over hyped Rafaela.
Rangers fan, Carter is a big ? For me. He will always be a favorite, but sometimes guys come up and play well and lose it, we dont know what a carter season looks like. All time rangers great whether his career hits or misses, he was the savior of the world series team.
I think Mullins should be top 15. I trust him way more than PCA, McCarthy, and Thomas. Thomas is probably a better player but if we’re talking in Center I think Cedric is more valuable