was *THE DARK KNIGHT* always this DARK??
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was THE DARK KNIGHT always this DARK?? - Фільми й анімація
Last time I saw this movie was in theaters 14 years ago (I was 14) Hope you guys enjoy this reaction! Love you all
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Heath Ledger died of an accidental overdose caused by the misuse of multiple prescribed sleeping medications at once. He had been suffering repeatedly from extreme insomnia every time he took up an acting role.
Your gonna love the Dark Knight Rises
oh buddy u call this dark, wait till u get to The Batman (2022)😎
Batman not only does NOT kill, he also doesn’t use guns to make sure he doesn’t kill. That’s how the scarecrow knew it wasn’t him.
Along with his parents having been shot. Which was partially just an object lesson (a gun makes it too easy), but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a little triggered by them.
Batman does not kill.
It is core to his character and system of belief, and a crucial point of so many fantastic stories in the comics.
"If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same." - Batman
For a superb Batman movie, check out the animated Under The Red Hood! :)
good point, andrew
I always find it interesting tho how in pretty much every movie he indiscriminately blows up civilian vehicles and buildings without any regard whatsoever to may or may not be inside. Case and point in this movie, the two boys in the car watching as he drives by after completely obliterating a row of cars, any one of which could have just as easily had another family or other innocent people inside.
Also if I remember correctly, in the Tim Burton Batman movies it seems like Batman racked up at least 2 "on purpose" kills which I always found strange.
@@psycho42069 And that’s a point where pretty much every movie has failed. Batman in the comics is calculated and precise. He’d consider the movie Batmen, even the ones that don’t kill, messy or sloppy. One thing the new Batman has going for it is that the sloppiness is one of the ways the director plans on showing the character’s growth into the full comic book Batman.
here's an interesting story.
aaron eckhart, who played harvey/two face, said what it was like working with heath. he said he saw him in the hospital room, preparing to do the scene but he never said a word. he was more focused on the physical actions, rather than the words. aaron took this as inspiration and joined him in acting out the scene, neither of them saying a word. by the time it was time to shoot the scene, they not only had the lines down but they were able to convey the emotions of harvey and joker through their movements and gestures.
he said working with heath was one of the greatest experiences he ever had as an actor.
both great actors!
I never knew that before... At the movie, i prefer More Harvey/Two Face as a character because Eckhart gave a dreamed performance for Gotham's attorney becoming the villain.
Amazing !!
to be fair, being more focused on the physical actions, rather than the words is just what acting is. all actors out great focus on how they interact with the room.
I saw this in theaters. It was PACKED. Not a single empty seat. When the pencil thing happened, the ENTIRE theater audibly gasped at the same time. It was amazing. Heath Ledger as the Joker is the single greatest actor portrayal of a character in movie history.
one of a kind performance!
I saw it opening night at midnight and they some how allowed people to sit on the ground it was so packed. Our crowd gasped and laughed 😂
When I saw it in the cinema and the pencil scene happened I laughed out loud, and it still makes me laugh.
To me the Joker has a "Holy Trinity" of actors that played the character perfectly for their era. Jack Nicholson, Heath Ledger, and Joaquin Phoenix are the actors that I put in that trinity. Jack Nicholson played the Joker's campy and comedic, yet completely insane and psychotic persona perfectly. Heath Ledger played the perfect Joker for being a force to be reckoned with, having an intimidating presence, being a master of the domino effect, with some humor to stay true to the character. Joaquin Phoenix played the Perfect Joker for the modern era, a societal reject that became a murderer because of the abuse society gave to him. All three perfectly played their movie's version of the character and all three bring a unique and and distinct take on the character that elevate the movies they appear in.
Same when I went to go see it! Only difference was while the entire theater gasped... I laughed lol the "TADAAAA!" really got to me lol
It hurts so much that Ledger died so young. We were robbed of such an amazing talent.
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Apparently he got too into the role it became his personality and he had to kill himself so he didn’t hurt anyone
@@Ai7CH Not true.
@@Ai7CHNo. Dude employed method acting, so he self-isolated trying to stay in that headspace. Self-isolation to such an extreme degree often leads to depression, which in turn can cause insomnia. Dude was taking benzos, pain meds, and an antihistamine cold medicine. Benzos and opiates by themselves are very rarely prescribed together, because they're both strong CNS depressants, which can cause you to just stop breathing.
@@tylarjackson7928 true.
He uses a different origin story every time because one of the most important parts of The Joker as a character is that no one knows who he is or how he became that way. He ALWAYS tells different versions of his origin story and no two are ever the same. It’s crucial because it’s part of what makes him so mysterious and iconic. He even says himself…”Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another. If I’m going to have a past I prefer it to be multiple choice.”
Thats so cool!
It also would technically would obscure any attempt to try to narrow down his identity since nothing he or anyone who claimed to have information on him could be considered credible.
@@aaronbeatdown yup, compounded even further by Joker's preference to work with schizophrenics
In the comics, it was once revealed that the Joker was actually three different people. Even Batman couldn't accept that.
@@stefanlaskowski6660 Well actually no, it was later retconned that The Joker actually just created those two other versions himself to fuck with Batman and force him to forgive Joe Chill so that he could take Chill’s place as Batman’s greatest pain.
Man... Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker will NEVER be surpassed. Down to absolute most miniscule movements, the way he delivered every single line... simply legendary.
This is my personal opinion counting animated versions Heath is 2nd best Joker of all time.
1) Hammil
2) Ledger
3) Phoenix
legendary for sure
@@justingarrett1675 You don't even include Jack Nicholson?😮
@@Rhodair - I know right? No one ever remembers the best joker characterization ever played. Literally no one has ever played Joker better than Jack Nicholson, for starters he actually played the character as it was originally written. Don't get me wrong, the new modernized versions where they add a more edgy feel to Batman and Joker characters to appeal to the more desensitized modern viewer are good roles, well played by talented actors. But These edgy new characters are not the originals, so technically they are new characters - but true joker is exactly as Jack Nicholson portrayed him, before they took artistic license to change the way Batman/Joker is characterized.
@@Arthaius And also Jack grew up reading Batman comics, so it was a pleasure to him for playing the Joker, I feel like Jack really understood his clownsy personality, even using Joker weapons, he literally stoled the movie just like Ledger did in TDK, now Jack lives retired of acting, with millions of dollars provided by his pay deal in Batman, no wonder why this man was one of the greatest actors ever.
I know Heath gets all the love, but honestly EVERYONE kills it in this movie. Special mention to Aaron Eckhart.
all the cast was terrific!
Absolutely. Honestly it took a sec for the hype to wear off so I could properly enjoy the Joker. But Two-Face was the dark horse star of the movie for me from the get go. Totally underrated.
The story is that the party scene (16:00) was the first introduction for some of the characters to the Joker, so their unease was authentic. Michael Caine (Alfred) said he was terrified, and completely forgot to say his lines. He thought it was just more friends of the party arriving when Heath tore out of the elevator with his entourage.
Every Batman movie costume from 1989 to this point had the head, neck and shoulders integrated so the actors and therefore Batman couldn’t turn their necks. They always had to do torso twists to look side to side and arch their backs to look up.
It's so iconic you could play a drinking game with just Michael Keaton Batman that'd leave you in shambles 🤣
It’s crazy NONE of them thought to turn his head before this movie….. 😂
@@aaronroibeard I think they decided that the character of Bruce Wayne ignored it and pretended it wasn’t an issue because the filmmakers wanted to maintain the single piece look from the comics and avoid it looking like a motorcycle helmet. But since the Nolanverse is supposed to be set a bit closer to the real world they decided to address it in the storyline. It was a nice touch.
@@surlycanadian for sure….
You beat me to it, I was just about to comment the same thing
In the old comics there was a great line that the joker delivered.
‘If I have to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice’
In a creepy joker tone obviously, that’s why he changes his story
Was there a comic scene of joker shooting at the cars trying to get Batman to hit him? Cuz that’s my favorite scene tbh
I believe it was in Killing Joke? Was in the late 80s sometime.
I think the real power of that line is that if anybody knew his real story, it'd weaken him. He has the advantage in every situation because nobody can get ahead of him by profiling what he might do.
@@mage1439 The exact reason I have no desire to see the Joaqin Phoenix Joker film. For me, it ruins the mystique of the Joker by giving him a concrete past and a real name. That's just not who the Joker is to me so I'd rather not have that aspect taken away; even if by all accounts it is a good movie.
@@peterbrazukas7771 I feel like the best way to take the Joker movie is as a very alternate reality story. He seems, in all honesty, not smart enough to be THE Joker, but at the same time making him a version of the Joker enhances the story beyond what it would be if he were just some guy.
13:01 - never in the history of movies have the words “LOOK AT ME!” been delivered in such a ferociously terrifying way. BTW, it’s easy to miss that he actually says “look at me” very quickly and quietly right before that. When “Brian” doesn’t comply, he goes feral with it. Bone-chilling!
It also showed that he was putting on a fake speaking voice the entire time. For me it suggests he had a naturally deeper voice but, like his appearance, he disguised his true self and created the Joker as his public face.
The jumpscare of the dead faux-Batman banging against the window is so effective... even after seeing this hundreds of times, it's still so good
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it is right
No, this role did not under any circumstances kill Heath Ledger. As a matter of fact, he was by all accounts profoundly happy and fulfilled by this role. His passing came from a tragically all too common miscalculation of prrscription meds. I think he was just so in love with his job that he couldn't turn his mind off to the point where he had to medicate just to sleep. He had moved on to his next, and sadly final, role before he passed, but his passing coincided with the release of Dark Knight so there was a lot of conflation between this role and his untimely death.
Yes Christian Bale even confirmed in an interview that it didn't kill him. And that when the cameras stopped rolling, he went back to being Heath, dropped the joker persona
I believe the going diagnosis is overdose of sleeping meds he was taking as treatment for chronic insomnia...? IIRC. The insomnia DID present during his time working on the movie, but I remember reading somewhere that it was less that the role itself was an issue, and more that he was an obsessive and just refused to sleep for long periods while working on the role. He was well-known for wanting to get his roles perfect. Chronic over-achiever in acting.
he was a known heroin user along with pills of all sorts.
@@abovewater6918 Michael Jai White also said the same thing about Ledger.
@@abovewater6918 Michael Jai White said the same thing. Heath was having the time of his life filming this movie.
Thank you for including the scene where the Joker says "No, I'm noT". Most reactors don't include that scene because they don't realize the weight it carries. Well done.
I literally thought of this today. Like that to me was big
thank you Drew
Can you explain the part/meaning?
@@guts311 in the Jokers head he is not a lunatic, for him it all makes sense.
@@HAbarneyWK as it does to everyone
The dialogue and the script are oscar worthy. Intelligent, complex yet easy to follow, memorable as well.
agreed!
27:57 Fun fact! Heath Ledger actually allowed Christian Bale to punch him in this scene. Since his Joker was created through method acting, the punch helped him get into the scene and act it out how the Joker would.
Fun fact: At 15:10 when the Joker shot up in the air, Alfred was supposed to say some line here, but it was the first time Michael Caine saw Heath Ledger in the Joker. He was speechless, he forgot his line. You can see him hesitant to speak.
unexpected things make the best scenes
A lot of fun facts in this section
@@TheLeonard185 heh, alot of non planned scenes on this movie apparently
got a link to prove it?
That's not true at all
Well, I liked the reaction, but quick correction - Joker isn't an "agent of chaos" - he just wants others to think that. He has very particular plans, which he fulfills at the end of the movie. Look at it like that:
He plans the heist perfectly. To the second.
He plays the mob like he wants to - they give him half of their money.
He plans the attempt on the mayor, and his breakout, as well as Rachel's death before he gets the message in the paper.
He succeeds in turning poster boy Dent to "monster"
All in all - he's prepared, understands psychology, knows his way around explosives, weapons, martial arts, manipulation, even interrogation ("don't start with the head, the victim gets all fuzzy"). Add that to the talk about "truck full of soldiers blowing up" and his record being clear - no prints, dental, etc - and you have a pretty convincing theory, that he was some kind of black ops, CIA or something.
And whats best - he accomplishes all he wanted. Which was, believe it or not, destroying Gotham's mob and making it a better place. After what he did - burning almost all of their money, sending them to jail by Harvey (from which, in his memory, noone will let them out), kills corrupted judges, and forcing the Batman to take a fall for Harvey's deeds, the Gotham is a safer place. Mob is disorganised and almost nonexistent, Batmans absence stops the escalation (about which Gordon talked in the first movie), Bruce is able to retire for literal years, before Bane comes in third movie. Joker literally saves Gotham from corruption, mob, criminals overall. The last thing you can say about him is that he "does things just because he's crazy"
in all fairness, the definition of agent is "a person or thing that takes an active role or produces a specified effect " he very much produces chaos from Gotham's everyday citizen. He is a mastermind to the point that chaos is just a tool in his kit.
In a short term - surely. But I'd say only as much as Batman, blowing cars on the parking lot and leading police on high speed chases through the city. But in the long run - after his plans were carried out, the Gotham was pretty much safe, ordered and quiet for everyday citizen for years (hence Bruce's retirement). Something Batman was never able to accomplish
Thank you for this comment. Very few people think that way
he's very smart for sure
Aye, Joker seems to be quite the fan of entropy. He'll promote the idea that _everything_ he does is chaotic when it benefits him. However, he certainly does put a lot of thought into his twisted, sociopathic jokes on society.
Man. This movie. I had grown up with Jack Nicholson and Mark Hamil as respective Jokers so me and my dad were a bit skeptical about Heath Ledger being picked. Then we went in premiere night. I ended up seeing this movie 10 times before it left theaters. The mannerisms, the subtext, the original design that STILL references so much of his original self from comics, tv, cartoon AND live action...It's all so incredible. And it's one of the big reasons I got into professional writing! Always enjoy your reactions, since you bring so much fun commentary but still pick up on the small details.
love you!
@@alexhefnerstvmovievault Thanks a ton, man!! Loving the vids and I'm excited for Monday!
I actually worked on this movie as a background extra. I'm in the scene toward the beginning where Joker is standing on the corner holding his mask and waiting for the crew to pick him up. I'm in the top right corner of the screen walking away from camera. Am really glad I have that memory of Heath Ledger.
You should check out The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus (Heath's final film) just to see their solution for finishing the film after Heath passed.
Hey that's a nice moment
Fun fact: The little tongue licks Joker does were actually due to the prosthetics starting to peel off, so Heath Ledger licked them to keep them in place and he ended up incorporating it into one of The Joker's many tics.
It's funny how many iconic things are just something practical that ends up almost defining a portrayal.
Not true at all. It was something he made up in preparation for the role. Apparently it had to do with getting the voice right. This was a massive box office oscar film, they could afford makeup that worked.
crazy!
@@alexbartha274 no it is true lol. Yes they could gotten better prosthetics but it was Heath’s choice to keep the ones he had
I also love how all of his words are formed in the very front of his mouth--exactly the habit a man would develop if he suffered catastrophic damage to his face.
Highly recommend another one of Heath ledger's movies called a Knight's tale
This times a hundred. Also a chance at a great and underappreciated performance by Alan Tudyk. "It's called a lance... hello."
This is good shit here.
@@mage1439 you have been weighed
Like Joker said to Harvey Dent " i'm just a dog chasing cars,once i catch it,i wouldn't know what to do with it" speaking about his insanity
It gets me everytime, this movie is filled with memorable scenes and quotes and one of the scenes that makes me tear the most is when the prisoner throws the detonator away , it shows you that even criminals have a soul and they can truly reform
The hospital was an actual demolitions project. And when the joker turned around and kept clicking the button. Purely adlib. There was an actual delay in detonation. So heath ledger just played along as the joker and then the rest started blowing up. He laughed and gets on the bus. Also the cop who got killed said "mam we're moving him now" showing they had already evacuated the rest of the patients from the hospital.
This has been confirmed to be untrue. Confirmed by several sources that the delay was planned.
A guy I used to work with his sister lived blocks away and they were notified but were told they shouldn't be worried about anything, and apparently the blast blew out her windows, and she swears if she ever meets Nolan she was going to beat him black and blue
ALSO there’s an deleted scene that shows how Joker jacked the bus and got those people on the boat. Why that was cut I’ll never know.
@@Xonslaught1I’ll take things that never happened for 500!
There was an interview with one of the other actors ( MIchael Jai White) and they asked him about woring with heath ledger and his death and the mental impact this role had on him as, the rumors were that he lost himself in the character (Due to the fact he spent a few months alone in a hotel room perfecting his voice, laugh, tics, and mannerism). But michael said that once the cameras were not rolling health was completely himself and there was no problems that he was showing that the role had any negative impact on him. So his death is still sort what a mystery to me.
IIRC, he developed chronic insomnia after all the work he did to perfect the role. Or at least somewhere around that time. The role itself is partly to blame, but not because of it haunting or tormenting him. He just wanted to do such a good job playing such a complex character that he simply couldn't sleep. Add an accidental over-prescription of sleeping medication, and you get a loss of life, sadly.
@@AdeptusCaeiusIII Something i wasnt aware of thanks. I knew playing the character had some, no mater how small of an impact but i wasnt aware that it was that bad.
@@sympotaz2960 very late but Heath had problems sleeping way before filming The Dark Knight so no, this role is not to blame. It definitely didnt help that he was jumping from project to project tho but still, he had sleeping problems so he was taking meds for that, and got a cold (some say pneumonia) while filming his latest movie. He was taking meds for that too. He took a combination of pills that lead to him passing away
@@AdeptusCaeiusIII there is also somewhere out there where jack Nicholson talked to heath when he took this role to be careful. It took jack many sessions of therapy to kick off being the joker.
The Joker has different stories for his origins because, in Alan Moore’s classic graphic novel, "The Killing Joke," the Joker says, "If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
Batman doesn't kill people. That is Batman's one rule, he won't kill anybody.
Also and yes the hospital was a practical effect, they blew one up that was already scheduled for demolition.
that's crazy!
Watch footage of all the Batmen starting with Keaton, and you'll see how meta the "you want to be able to turn your head" bit was. Keaton particularly had some really weird motions that made him seem otherworldly. Like when he has to literally lean and bend backwards to look up.
interesting
His story about his scar is inconsistent because that's true to his character, he's an agent of chaos with an unknown background, no one knows who he is, where he's from, what his motives are, when he's being serious or when he is bluffing, an unreliable narrator, unpredictable. It's what truly makes the Joker such an amazing and terrifying villian. He's an actual wild card
YEP HES SO UNPREDICTABLE
Being unable to turn his head is a nod to the older Batman movies where he has to turn his whole body to turn his head.
"He owns this place?!"
Remember he gave a check to the guy in the first movie and bought the whole place?
This movie thought about every little aspect and i love it. The piece of glass next to the joker in the interrogation scene so you know how he escapes, when Dent sneaks into the backseat of the car you can see him in the side mirror getting in when the door opens, little things like that. So so good.
Also he tells different stories because he's an unreliable narrator, the viewer realizes he's telling different stories and knows he's completely out the gate and nothing he says can be trusted
"What were you trying to prove? That deep down, everyone’s as ugly as you? You’re alone." That always stuck with me. As brilliant as The Joker is in this movie, his philosophy doesn't account for basic human goodness.
While I like how it played out, most people are opportunistic and can do some wild things out of self preservation. I consider it more a fluke that neither boat went off, and it's totally worth the shock on the Joker's face because it's like Batman won the lotto in that moment.
@@Rhodair Do you include yourself in "most people," or do you consider yourself one of the shining, admirable exceptions?
Have to just say I respect you being true and not trying to pretend like this is a first time watch. So many people with fake personalities out here these days and you keep it real.
thank you bro, always keep it real
@@alexhefnerstvmovievault even if you have seen it before. Even if someone has seen it recently, they might not catch everything. Take for example, when Joker hands Two-Face the gun, pointing it at himself, the entire time he's holding the hammer back so that if the trigger is pulled, the gun wouldn't fire. I didn't notice that for years. Also, the hospital explosion botched in real life. Only a few went off at first, then the rest went off in a delayed reaction, so when you see Joker running off, that's a legitimate "oh shit" moment from Heath Ledger.
As I grow older I'm beginning to realize that the villains make very valid points. The joker was literally trying to bring the worst out of everyone. He was trying to reveal everyone's dark side. The boat scene was a prime example. Batman couldn't kill him because he'd be no better than him.
Great reaction bro! I remember seeing this in theaters opening night, I was 21. I grew up a Batman fan and Joker was always my favorite villain out of like anything, anyways we did some bong rips and then each smoked our own blunt on the drive to the theater. I remember being in awe cause they played the Watchmen trailer before the movie and that looked so dope, and then I was just in total awe during this movie. Probably greatest theater experience of my life, Ledger's Joke was not at all what I expected but it was so amazing, I probably would have teared up if I wasn't so high. Top tier film. I still have a Dark Knight movie poster autographed by Christian Bale.
thats so cool, jealous of that! love you Henry
So genius, he played with Batman's temper and emotions in that interrogation scene that he practically wasted their time. Same I'm pretty bad with addresses, but it's standard cop training to be pretty good with memorizing addresses especially with 911 calls so I'm not surprised Batman and Gordon got it
"you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villian" - brilliant quote. Absolutely love it.
This version of the Joker wasn't crazy. He seem to have a plan. He is in complete control every step of the way.
A couple of things I can guess about this version. I believe that he is a former mathematician. There is a lot of game theory involved in his schemes.
I would guess that he was trained as an agent to destabilize... whatever they needed to destabilize.
Given who he targets, it seem like he is trying to do some of what Bruce is trying to do. But instead of doing it covertly, he is being overt.
And he considers the end to justify all means.
I'm not sure... but I have been wondering if he's bored. He seem the most entertained when something isn't 100% predictable by him. Batman is providing that.
He didn't die due to the role, he was dealing with mental health issues for years and was big into becoming the character acting like bale, but he was on multiple medications and after this film he was working on 2 other ones and medications he took werent supposed to be taken together and sadly it was in his blood stream due to upping the dosage and the doctor didn't know he was on another medication as well so both mixed due to the higher dosage of one of the medications and he went into a coma and stopped breathing. But it was well after this film was finished, but it happened about a little over a month after it was to release originally.
It's a staple of Batman's character that he doesn't kill his villains, he actively avoids killing. That's why more recent interpretations of the character got alot of criticism.
Lol Batman has killed plenty. Go read a comic. Casual
Fun Fact: That last Hospital explosion wasn't supposed to be delayed. Heath Ledger knew this and was genuinely surprised when it didn't go off. That part where he looks back and throws his arms up and starts hitting the button repeatedly was completely improvised and NOT in the script. Nolan loved it and left it in the movie. RIP Heath.
Fun Fact: That's a fabrication, but people keep repeating it, because when people hear something they like, they embrace it as truth.
Fun facts are rarely fun, and almost never factual.
Not true
that "Look. At. Me." is one of my favorite lines just because of how its delivered, you don't even see him in the shot but its so all-encompassing
followed closely by that "I'm a man of my word" and the cackle
You'd be amazed at how many of the effects are practical. Flipping the truck over, pushing the police van into the river, blowing up the whole hospital, the batmobile and the bat bike. Crashing a real lambo.
big budget movie haha
Rip Heath Ledger😢
FR! RIP
The licks Heath Ledger did were actually to help keep his prosthetics in place since there was an issue - he took an obstacle and turned it into an incredible character quirk - he was so amazing people didn't even CONSIDER there was a reason like that for the madness.
I really enjoy how the joker says he doesn’t have any plains but throughout the whole movie you see all his plains unfold just shows he does everything with intent he’s really a genius
yep hes smart
OMG! the 29:45 scare was hilarious! Incredibly genuine reaction of being scared shitless! Makes me laugh just thinking about it!
thanks for watching!
LOVE your videos and just binge-watched your Marvel marathon!
I'm sure The Joker is on your watch list and can't wait to get your take on your Joker portrayal preference. I never thought anyone would get close to Ledger's performance, but gotta say Phoenix is right there with him.
7:42 I like how you noticed that too. Few actors can become the character the way Ledger did in this movie.
Actually, I think this Joker tells his backstory in different ways not necessarily because he "prefers to be multiple choice" like the one in the comics, but because it helps him intimidate the victim more. When he talks to a criminal, he goes for daddy issues, since he would probably relate to it more, and when he talks to Harvey's love interest, he goes for a tragic love story. IDK what exactly would he have picked for Batman at the end of the movie, but I assume it would be something self-sacrificial. It's also great how he sometimes looks to the upper right when telling the story, which a lot of psychologists say is a sign of him making it up on the fly. He says he's not a man with a plan, but that's absolutely not the case. His plan was aimed at showing everyone that even the best of us are bad, no matter what it costs him. He literally wants Batman to kill him, first on the motorbike, then in the interrogation room, then on the construction site, to show he's not as morally immovable as he pretends to be (at least the Joker thinks it would work). He says that in their last moments, people show us who they really are, and in his "last" moments (presumably falling to his death) he laughs like a maniac because he succeeded. Batman would be a murderer. Then, just in case, he has been preparing an ace in his sleeve the entire duration of the movie: Harvey. The Joker made sure Harvey had a personal motif to kill a bunch of people, and he even redirected his anger from himself by spinning him a story about chaos, all that while literally holding the flint of the gun with his thumb. Harvey wouldn't have been able to kill him regardless. He was not the one the Joker saved his own death for. The ending was basically a win-win situation for the Joker: either Harvey kills Batman and/or Gordon's family, making it literally impossible to cover up, or Batman kills Harvey, technically becoming a murderer, and takes the blame for all the stuff Two-Face did, ruining his image of a hero. In any case, the Joker wins, even if he's not there to witness it.
You should watch the joker movie if you haven’t seen it already it takes place in a different universe but it gives jokers back story and it’s actually pretty good. Fun fact about this film when Batman is hitting the joker to get info he actually punch the actor because they want it too look real.
Also the Reason to why he always changes his story is because there are so many different origins for how he got them that it's best just to have it that he always changes the story which keeps it interesting and kind of fun but also keeping that scaring likeness to it as well as join how crazy he is take a deal if that makes sense
Or he changes the story because it's all a lie and he makes it up
When Thor went to Asgard and got to talk to his mom... ur right, about what u said about giving anything to have a moment like that. My dad died 13 years ago to an aggressive and rare cancer, and we had things that were unsaid and unresolved, and we never got to reconcile because he went downhill so fast. If I were able to see him again, talk to him... I live with that regret and always will, because he's gone... Please, don't leave things unresolved that you really need to say to a loved one, because you never know what the future holds...
I think the idea behind changing the stories is that he is trying to screw with the victim. They seem like they may be customised based on the victim too. Rachel being a middle age female, a story which undermines love and the dedication of partners might seem suitable. Gambit being a criminal is more likely to have experienced an abusive or broken household so a story of an alcoholic abusive father might seem more suitable.
So glad you're going through this series! Easily one of the best movie trilogies ever, let alone the best Batman movies ever. I saw this opening weekend in IMAX with 20 of my friends. Best movie experience of my life.
12:38 I knew as soon as I started the video that your reaction to that would be hilarious. You don't disappoint 😂
The multiple stories about his scars could be a reference to a line from The Killing Joke where he said "If I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice". The ambiguity about Joker's origins are the main selling point of the character.
When I saw this in theaters I forgot I was watching a Batman movie at times. Heath did such an amazing job and his loss is still felt
This movie is a Nolan MASTERPIECE!!!
yep it is!
You are the damn Gooch King! lol. I love your vids brother. You make me laugh and that is a super power my friend. Thank you.
haha! love you more
A towering achievement in filmmaking with a legendary turn by Ledger as the Joker - truly iconic - Bale continues to add layers to his Bruce Wayne/Batman - and dude c'mon The Code of Batman is you don't kill someone. Saw this in IMAX and it's truly amazing since Nolan employs that medium so well. The truck & hospital stunts are all REAL.
I think one reason Joaquinn Phoenix as Joker. Other then him being a phenomenal actor. Is because people realized this role needs someone very strong. And after Joaquin's past. He would absolutely annihilate this role and still be around for sequels. And he did. He killed this role. I actually prefer him over Heath but that's all personal preference. Amazing reaction as always big Haus.
I don't think any real fan would give you any crap over preferring Joaquin, Heath, or Mark, and I personally wouldn't give you crap if your preferred Joker is Cesar Romero or Jack Nicholson. If you prefer Jared Leto, now...
Omg a real live action mark Joker.... Would be sooooo cool. Omfg that would be sensational. And yeah no
Jared is the weakest on screen joker. I see what they were trying to do... But it fell short at every scene really. He felt more like Harleys side bitch more then anything. I did like his Snyder cut action. But I think it was the chemistry between him and Batman more then anything.
By what I understand like 80% of Jokers scenes where cut out of suicide squad, and he was going to be a more fleshed out character. Of course the source is Leto so it my be his way of saying "I don't Suck."
Dont get me wrong there were parts I respected the character and I think he did as best as he could. I would've liked to see more of his takes to really get a feel for it. But he felt very mainstream. I think I like him more as Mobius even though the editing in that killed the movie too.
Joaquin's Joker is fantastic, however, it should stay as a standalone film. As much as I enjoyed his Joker, it doesn't belong in a Batman movie. It serves its purpose, making a point about mental health and neglect etc. That would be lost in a proper Batman film imo
I felt the same way about Jeff Bridges' performance as Obadiah Stane in Iron Man.It was the best,most unexpected performance as a villain I had ever seen from someone I didn't think had that type of darkness.I was blown away by both Jeff Bridges and Heath Ledger and both deserved the Best Actor in a Supporting Role Oscar that year,but Heath tragically died,so while Jeff was nominated, everyone knew it was going to Heath for his deliciously creepy turn as the Joker.
Fun fact: I use to work in that hospital building, it was Brachs candy factory. Sad to see it go
thats sad
A few of the Jokers tics are actual actions that Heath Ledger had to do: for example, the mouth licking; the mouth prosthetics refused to stick causing untold delays between sets as they had to reapply makeup, until Heath discovered if he just licked his lips to keep them wet, the prosthetics stay stuck
Greatest comic book movie of all time imo
legendary Henry!
Alex loves the gooch 😂
My favourite Batman movie by a landslide lol
yep its great! love ya
@@alexhefnerstvmovievault Calling me a gooch? Boy don't make me throw gooches at people 🤣
Just kidding, looking forward to Monday!
i dunno what i'd vote if i were in the boat scenario. after seeing the film several times (absolutely amazing film) it's safe to say, they DID have the detonators to their own boats. like, no chance it'd be as simple as civilians blow up convicts or vice versa. the joker would have 100% switched it up. If not blow up both from one
3:29 -- William Ficthner -- One of my current favorite actors. Born on Long Island and lived in upstate.
Nestor Carbonell is, in fact, NOT wearing eyeliner. His eyes are so dark it looks like that. During his time on Lost they had Sawyer call him “buddy with the eyeliner” in response to people speculating if Nestor was wearing eyeliner. They cleared up all speculations in a Behind the Scenes feature where they showed they were actually trying to make his eyes lighter with concealer
React to Deadpool I & II
He really should see the rest of the X Men movies first before the Deadpool movies. Continue Marvelous Movie Mondays the right way!
great suggestion Andres
@@Andrew.Grabowski I don't see how that will matter, considering how jacked up the continuity is lmao
You're asking about how they made the hospital scene. They actually had a building that needed demo'd in the city that they were shooting in. So they simply just added some flammable agents in with the demolition and actually blew up a real hospital (to build a new one.)
'The Joker wanted me to lock him up in the MCU!' Feels like this bizarre coincidence still has untapped potential for jokes.
Still brilliant. I actually prefer Begins as its' plot is tighter but no one can deny what its' sequel accomplished. Looking forward to Dark Knight Rises.
The Fact that Joker switched the addresses earlier...makes you wonder if he switched the detonators to the bombs on the boats as well???
Imagine, they unintentionally kill there own selves. 😳
Yeah, I think so too, it'd appeal to his sense of humour. I think he expected both boats to blow themselves up in a panic right after the due time.
There is no way this guy hasn't seen these movies before at least 2 times.
Dude I didn't see any star wars movies until I was 18 and they are just as iconic as the dark knight, so yes it's entirely possible
@@PedroHernandez-ju1id he is a lot older than 18, and knows the internet. No way he hasn't seennone of these before.
He did say he watched the movie already but 14 years ago, chill
@@jeeve12 those movies weren't out 14 years ago. He knows these movies more than me.
He said the film at the cinema when it came out, he says that at the start of the reaction and in his pinned comment
Fact is, some people just don't watch all movies. I've not seen Lord Of The Rings 🤷🏼♂️
I saw an interview where he was talking about this scene he said that Heath ledger came in and full makeup never said a word to him had the mannerisms everything or just walk around the bed and stare at him so that by the time the cameras were rolling those two had already worked out basically how the scene would go between the characters all without a single word of dialogue before the cameras were even turned on
This movie gave me my username! I've been rocking it ever since this movie came out lol. 3:19 is the inspiration. Too many near death experiences and traumas for me to not be strange. haha
Ledger was so f'n good as the Joker....just awesome.
He improvised so many scenes. Just off the top of my head...when he clapped for the Commissioner Gordon announcement in jail, when the detonator didn't go off when he was in the nurse getup leaving the hospital. So many more people talk about in interviews and on the DVD extra's. It's a lot.
the semi truck flipping and it not being cgi is amazing. also the hospital explosion is real too.
I still love that truck flip at 25:07 was done for real full scale. Can’t beat things done for real vs cgi
You wonder:”Why Batman didn’t kill them?” We have to remember in the first movie when he had to kill the thief to proof to be a part of the league of shadows Bruce Wayne answered: “ I’m not a murderer”
Did you know Heath Ledger won the Oscar for this performance? He was amazing!
17:49 -- I know Heath's level... Isolation, and depression will drive you to madness.. I loved a woman who stopped loving me.. She abused me, isolated me.. I was alone in her house every day when she went to work.. No car, no friends, no escape.. Admittedly, I did go a little insane. God, I would love to be an actor and give all those demons a chance to be let out and go play... --- But in a way, aren't we ALL actors in one way or another?
One of my favourite films ever. Awesome direction and production. Plus, an outstanding film score!
Man, I love this movie so much! I remember the feelings I got watching this in theaters as a kid. The bass in Heath's voice at the beginning when he said "What doesnt kill you simply makes you..stranger." God every single time I watch this movie I still get goosebumps at that part. Such a good performance and overall movie. As a comic book movie its incredible, as a film in general I think its still incredible. You don't need to be a comic book fan or a Batman fan to enjoy this movie. I loved your reaction to this movie!
That part when he killed gamble the black mobster.. he gave him a chelsea grin.. he cut him from the corner of his mouth to behind his ear which caused him to pass out from the instant drop in blood pressure.. he bled out
I'm convinced that Joker gave the boats their own detonators to punish the people who decided to set it off - chaos.
Or the detonators set of both boats
I think the Bat Pod emerging from the Batmobile is the only time going to the movies where I jumped from my seat from sheer excitement.
pretty crazy scene
The gnarly thing about the ferry dilemma is that the movie _never_ confirms what detonators triggered what bombs... and Joker has already lied about an either/or scenario of his making. So, it's entirely possible each ferry had the detonator to their own bomb.
We have this film at home. I love it so much.
yep its so good! thanks for watching Cory
The reason the Joker always gives a different story about how he got his scars (or smile) is because in the comics he doesn’t really have an origin story. Alan Moore wrote an origin story called “the killing joke” for the Joker years after the characters first appearance but even that story can’t be a trusted full account as the joker himself says he doesn’t really remember who he was or how he came to be when he says “If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!”
So in the film a way of trying to incorporating that idea is Heath Ledger’s Joker telling a different story each time.
One of those fun details about the Joker that is easy to miss…
When Dent has the gun to his head and they flip the coin, the Joker has his thumb holding down the hammer.
Even if Harvey pulls the trigger, he keeps his face.
Always down to be threatened with a good time!
Reaction channels are like watching the tide. It’s impressive to see them morph and transform into whatever is most monetarily-sound at the moment.
The different stories for his scars seem to be a reference to Joker's "origins" in the Killing Joke. In the comics during the Killing Joke, three separate possible origins for Joker are shown. In the Joker's own words, that's because he sometimes remembers it one way, and sometimes another, claiming that if he's "going to have a past, I prefer it to multiple choice". This Joker seems to be the same in that regard. Even he may not remember exactly what happened so every time he tells the story he remembers it differently.
thanks for the info!
@@alexhefnerstvmovievault My pleasure
An important aspect to why Joker tells a different story about his scars every time is that he's known to be a master manipulator able to twist people to his desires even though they don't realize it. Although it's not in this movie, his relationship with Harley Quin is based off the foundation of him telling her sob stories to make her sympathize with him and then slowly twisting her into his accomplice to help bust him out of prison.
It's also like how he repeatedly tells people he has no plans, that he's just a force for chaos in this movie, and yet everything he does is constructed masterfully to try and achieve specific goals; to try and make people reveal their darkest parts of themselves because he truly believes that everyone has the capacity for evil and takes the most joy and delight out of proving it. His ultimate goal above all else is to get Batman to break his one rule; to make Batman kill him.
fun facts:
1. In the hospital scene, when Harvey is holding the revolver at jokers head and joker gives him a "choice" and says "do I look like a man with a plan?" he is actually holding the hammer of the revolver so if Harvey did pull the trigger, it would not have fired. therefore joker is always a man with a plan😉
2. Also in the hospital scene when joker tries to blow up the hospital and the detonator does not work, this was completely improve, it was supposed to detonate and when it didnt go off his reaction was actually real. they ended up using the cut because it ended up great.
I have only seen two of your videos now. And I just love that the second video I clicked on you're wearing a shirt that I have as well. That Selena shirt is great
12:36 and Biblo's demon face in LOTR are two of the scariest moments in cinema history, mostly because you're not expecting to be scared so your guard is totally down.
About the boat bombs thing, I think it wouldn't have mattered whether the passengers on the boat voted or not. Because knowing Joker's personality, he would have made them press their own detonator as a cruel joke. Same as what he did to Batman when he intentionally gave him the false address of where Rachel and Harvey were held hostage. Same as what he did when he made the criminals dressed as doctors and the doctors dressed as criminals, just for the SWAT to kill their own rescue targets. Even the entire Harvey and Rachel debacle was nothing more than a distraction, just so Joker can get access to the accountant.
Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker is the most accurate depiction of the Joker. You will understand if you played the entire Arkham series game. Whenever Joker gives you 2 choices, neither of the choices are right answers, as they both are definitely rigged and booby-trapped by Joker's notion of a cruel joke and prank. So the right decision is to not accept the choices he gave you, but rather create your own solution, which the passengers did by not detonating the boats at all. This is also what Batman did in most cases involving the Joker.